Linux Surge: Exploring the 400% Desktop Market Growth in Just One Year
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- Today we ltalk about how Linux Desktop Marketshare has grown from 1 percent to 4 percent in one year. I step away for 1 year and this amazing growth happened. We discuss reasons why I think this happened and what this could mean in the future.
I switched away from Windows 10 after it quite literally ate my homework by forcing an update overnight while I was running something for an assignment for a college class. It still blows my mind how anyone can think that forcing computers to turn off without the user's permission is ever a good idea.
I became a Linux user because Windows finally failed me in a way that I could not tolerate. I'd put up with endless frustrations from Windows, but I was no longer able to get Seven to acknowledge the dimensions of my monitor, and I refused to accept the bloat and data theft that Ten represented.
Ten really isn't that bad compared to 11 which is a nightmare. They took off everything
@@alainportant6412 You and I apparently have no reality in common. Ten was a bloated mess of programs I couldn't delete, of Cortana spyware, and of Microsoft's yearning to prevent me from controlling my own computer. I came on a laptop I bought new and made the thing unusable. I finally nuked it and replaced it with Linux, as I'd done with my Windows 7 PC.
Ten started out fine but was getting worse and worse so I jumped ship to Linux this year.
@@alainportant6412 agree 11 feels more like 8 or other versions before with much more bugs and stuff which amazingly they managed to fix in 10. wasn't really keen on adopting 11 but increasingly the new apps are asking for 11, and linux unless u are doing programing or a certain job it's quite pointless, so you'd either go mac or windows or both.
@@gregcampwriterUse 10 LTSC if you ever need Windows. It has none of that crap. It’s the version of Windows 10 they give to corporations.
I refuse to up grade to 11 just because tpm and cpu requirements I switched to Linux mint 🐧
Linux Mint is such a nice OS. I use it on my laptop and it is wonderful.
I agree 100% I switched to Manjaro and a few others then I stopped on Fedora kde. It's actually faster then my friends windows 11 PC's lol. I'm happy with linux
To me, the most important reason for moving to Linux was that I want an operating system that protects me from spyware, not a spyware that disguises as an operating system. The most obvious admission of Microsoft that Windows has indeed turned into spyware was the renewed terms of service last fall which state explicitly that they can and will check all files on your computer and if they find something they consider to be suspicious, they can report it to authorities and also simply delete those files without any prior warning. That is simply not acceptable behavior for an operating system, that is exactly what spyware does.
@@BattleBard1582 you're most welcome, glad I could spread the information. Unfortunately, most people don't read terms of service and as you can see, that can be a big mistake.
In my opinion:
1. Hardware requirements vs higher cost of living. Installing Linux is cheaper than buying new hardware.
2. People use their browser 90% of the time, so the OS doesn't matter as much anymore. Chrome runs fine on Linux.
3. Linux hardware support has improved. And Wayland fixes common issues like screen tearing. The out of the box experience is better.
I still use Windows though as a C# developer. The DevKit for vscode is improving, but still nowhere near a full IDE experience.
On the server side pretty much everything is moving to Linux though. Why pay for Windows Server licenses if .NET 8 works fine on Linux.
Don't forget that Nvidia is finally fixing their drivers on Linux and are even hiring people to work on it. Hell has frozen over and it's finally looking to be the year of the Linux Desktop.
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I settled on Linux in 2010. All OS’s have pro’s and con’s but once I learned it, I came to love that it’s the full package. My old ma has Linux Mint running fine on her old dual core 4gb ram machine. True it is slow but then so is ma.
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Don't forget the value of freedom behind Linux. Richard Stallman wanted to create a free Unix system in the 1980s, and later added the Linux kernel to achieve it. So Linux represents free unix
Made the switch to Linux Mint LTS once my Steam games list hit critical mass for compatibility.
Outside of a few game crashes (games ain't perfect programs, even in Windows) i have been enjoying the overall stability. 🙂
From my experience, over the past few years linux has become much more plug and play and easier to learn and understand. With so much effort and improvement coming from the community, that on top of how bad windows has become this switch was a no brainer for me. I have so much fun customizing my desktop and using it daily.
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I've recently took an interest in revisiting Linux for old hardware and was delighted at how it revitalized it, but I use OSX/Windows 10 primarily, so it just sat there. Then, my son needed to print something, and my old, but very good Brother USB printer, which was hooked up to my wife's computer, needed to be rethought how it was being used and accessed (printer sharing on OSX/Windows is surprisingly hit or miss, and it wasn't working). So, I hooked it up to the Linux machine, which had WIFI, turned on printer sharing, and viola, everyone had wireless access, no printer driver needed, from windows/OSX and iOS! Great!
So now I've been exploring Linux a lot more, especially for NAS storage, and I've already gone down that rabbit hole. It's pretty amazing what can be done for very little. I've just ordered hardware for the NAS build. I'll be replacing Dropbox soon.
Depending on your NAS needs, any decent router, connected to a raid enclosure should suffice as a NAS and be able to serve as a media server. I have an enclosure attached to a DD-WRT router is my printer server and streams music and movies very well. Now, having multiple people accessing the NAS simultaneously, might require a separate computer as a server.
I resurrected a 2012 MacBook Air, no longer supported by Apple, with Ubuntu 24.04, runs fine even though the Air only has 4G bytes of RAM.
I do professional software dev targeting Linux (back-end stuff, of course) and have used Ubuntu as my only desktop OS for years.
But I keep my spouse on MacOS via MacMinis and currently she's got an M2 ARM Mac.
So I am on this computer from time to time - naturally am the admin account so do all the app and OS updates.
And I just find the MacOS GUI desktop nothing special to write home about. I find my Ubuntu Gnome based desktop is really better for the most part - especialy in dealing with virtual desktops, which I constantly, heavily use.
The GUI in MacOS for dealing with virtual desktops always greatly annoys me for its awkwardness in the usability department.
Oh, all the printers we get - had HP for years and now went to Epson because of there refill ink tanks design. I connect these printers to the home local network - my Linux computers have always been able to print just fine to either of these brand of printers.
@@reekinronald6776 I'm behind a CGNAT, so connecting from the outside is a bit more complicated (though I've figured that part out). I'm adopting NextCloud, so a simple raid enclosure isn't enough for my needs. Plus I'll be doing other stuff. So, its TrueNAS Scale for me. Thanks.
Linux saves all my old pc's.. They all start as windows and then windows stops supporting them so that's when I switch to linux on that pc normally.
I can't live with my operating system having ads. Sorry Bill.
You do realize that bill gates hasn't had anything to do with windows in like 20 yrs right?
I switched to linux because of DXVK and VK3D allowed me play games I want without rebooting to windows. I understand not all games would work like that, but I needed only few specific games - and they work. So now I can work in linux, play games in linux, and watch youtube in linux. Goodbye windows, you've lost a competition over my PC.
Windows 10 just reached EOL status and nobody wants to deal with Windows 11's BS where you need a Microsoft account just to install it. I have a W11 VM and I had to make a fake outlook account just to use it. With W10 VM's I don't have to do that, but I need to lab AV bypass on the latest systems.
You're absolutely right. First time I heard the requirements for Win11, and saw the GUI, I knew it was going to fail. Anyone who bought a perfectly good PC or motherboard, even one month before the release of Win11, might have been forced to replace the board or the machine because it didn't meet the PRE-ENCODED requirements of Win11.
So, instead of wasting a perfectly good rig, and adding to the E-waste in the landfills, they started switching to Linux, _in massive droves!_ And it won't stop when Win12 hits the market; and it could be much worse for Micro$oft if Win12 jumps the shark. We could see Linux challenge if not _overtake_ macOS for user share in 3 years, especially if Windows compatibility with WINE improves by leaps and bounds. ✨
It's a solid and largely private platform. When you combine that with desktop options like Kde Plasma it's not a surprise. What's surprising is that its not a much larger %
I have a MS Surface Pro 3 and I put Windows 11 on it by removing the CPU check. It ran fine and it has a older CPU and only 4g RAM. So MS telling people just go a new PC is bull and eventually will drive people to Linux or OSX if they have to buy new.
I became a Linux yesterday for the first time
Windows finally killed itself with forced spyware and GUI changes like the start menu. Linux on the other hand has a working GUI and runs games. So there's no reason to keep using Windows, but Linux does have it's own issues with bad distros, and you basically need a rolling release to be up to date.
For Linux to really grow, it needs to be a lot more game friendly. Steam with Proton is doing a good job but it still has work to do. Most people don't want to wait 15 minutes for Vulkan shaders to process. Most people don't want to have to make tweaks in the system for a game to load. Also, on some Arch based Linux distros, try getting Droidcam to work. You will need to get into the command line and set the path parameters to get it to load. Most people don't want to do that. When Linux gets to a point where all the software doesn't just work but works well, that is when a lot more people will switch to Linux :)
Made the step from Windows 10 to only using Linux (Zorin OS) on my main PC. A a bit scary but a great feeling! 🙂
When my old laptop died in 2015, the market was pushing windows 8 everywhere, which was a huge no no, so i purchased a MacBook pro, and kept using windows 7 in a virtual machine. I renewed my macbook in late 2022, but on the new apple chip, the old windows 7 is not available for aarch64 architecture. Windows 11 is bloated, has all these crazy hw requirements, spies on you all the time with telemetry, tries to force you to use a Microsoft account. Conclusion: bye-bye windows, hello Linux. You don't have to put up with all this crap anymore. Linux works well and has all i need. Libreoffice is a great replacement to the office suite, and you own your own documents.
Really Windows has done everything it could to push me away from them. Good riddance.
Steam Deck, software development, and the whole stuff going on with Windows 11 are probably the biggest factors at play. Only reason I don't use Linux on my current setup (a gaming laptop) is because Steam has some problems on Wayland, and there's fan/RGB control issues on the specific laptop model that I have. Otherwise, I'd be using it still.
Thanks Microsoft, to do your SO a little worst in each update 🤗
MS killing Windows 10 and making Windows 11 require most to get a new computer that works for them perfectly. Ads, spyware, etc in Windows (for the people who care about that). Mainly its the fact people dont have the money to upgrade their PCs and dont need to.
what ? you need newer hardware you know the run new software? imagine that one.. don't they know it's the in thing to be weird and stay on 15 year old out dated laptops crying fear mongering ideas?
At my house Linux is on 100% of my computers. Zorin on the machine I'm using right now. Also have Linux Mint and LMDE on other machine. Just a side note, the machine I'm using right now cost me $70 (US) shipped to me. By the way, I don't use my "phone" for computing.
The biggest hold on is production tools all net to go to web based or have nix options, the gaming is almost there.
That's really cool! I hope this is the boost to get software compatibility to be better. I would use Linux as my daily driver IF I could run ALL of my games at the same or better fps as I am now on Windows and all my music production stuff (I primarily use Ableton Live) including DAW and plugins are natively compatible so there's no extra latency from emulation. Sounds demanding but I need my music stuff to work correctly and I didn't buy X number of games for PC so that I could play 70% of them, I bought all of them so I could play all of them.
Whilst I have no issue with single source commercial operating systems (I’m old enough to have used VMS at work and cpm at home) what has finally made me settle on Linux is the utter moneterisarion of the Microsoft experience, it’s not just adds in the start menu, everyone is on the make, every bit of free software tries the hard sell , software is going subsription and where you get perpetual licenses (of which I hold many) they are simply used as a channel to sell you more stuff. It is easy to get hooked into this and hand over more and more cash. Don’t get me started on perpetually licensed software that has cloud decencies which magically stop working or features that are removed in updates. Not saying this doesn’t happen in Linux but it’s endemic in Windows land.
My reason for changing was how much I hate the subscription model utilised by different software. This model is creeping into everything and it was enough. On top of that Linux software is easy to install, easy enough to run and works extremely well, even the email clients, well most of them.
That's 300% growth, not 400 😀
Honestly been using linux for years and it’s always been a thing since I was kid saying we would take over and I’m like sure is like disco but we might stand a chance now is growing fast keep seeing more people switching almost on the daily
Theirs ways of getting around those specs on windows 11 bc I did it my gfs pc ont he bios you can trick windows 11 she doesn’t use it no more she switch to linux now since her labtop is old she run puppy os when I build her a new pc ima have her run ubuntu since she’s not good with pcs if she gets into it I will teach her to use arch
No it does not. I have been on Linux for over 10 years now. I stopped dual booting over 5 years ago or more. Every PC in the house is a Linux PC, no Windows here at all. People just use what works for them, so for most gamers and content creators they will stay with Windows no matter how bad MS treats them. Mainly cause they are stuck in the MS and Adobe world, not willing or care to try something new. And that is OK, people need to stop trying to push people into switching.
Imagine trying to explain windows to a alien and that alien said idk what that is I use Linux
I dual boots 32 bit ubuntu back when I use Windows XP where I hardly use former until I installed various linux versions into virtualbox VMs as well having Steam deck as my way of migrate to Linux, not to mention I installed portable Linux on flash drive for hacking computers that harder to boot
I still use Windows 10 as my desktop PC I also have windows 7 laptop, not to mention older Windows up to XP in virtual machines
Linux is a solid OS I've been using since 1996. Started with Slackware back then.
Unfortunately softwares lacked support for Linux and my focus went back to Wintel products.
Quite recently the exploration is sparked again with dump Win10 bullying. Interestingly Raspberry Pi 5 has become my portable computer on the go. And I am not missing my big machine except for gaming.
Linux is way cooler and I've even dumped macos on my old MacBook Pro with Gentoo. Have additional partition which would be consumed by dietPI. And it's fast and smooth. No longer I need to be worried about decayed software and security issues.😊😊
Three things have happened the abysmal failure that is Windows 11, the quality of Linux Mint and with the help of Steam, games are now playable on Linux. People are starting to understand that TPM chip is just a way for Microsoft to encrypt bitlocker onto your computer and give them the ability to lock the user out without the key. The chips they are banning do not allow them access to do this.
I desperately wanna switch to Kubuntu for my next Gaming PC, but I'm afraid Windows will still offer better support and I hate it. For everything else, I'm using Mac. Because it works best for me. But I still want Linux to bloom. I despise Windows since 8 came out.
My Laptop fights installing Linux. As in, it shuts down before I can do shit. (A the stick just won't boot.) Maybe the next machine.
Software publishers can ignore a 1% Linux market share. It would be harder to ignore a 5% market share. At a 10% marketshare there will be a lot of software companies who see an opportunity.
Lots of software publishers are predominantly Windows applications that have been adapted to support Mac. In most cases it would not be that much harder to adapt the programs to Linux. MacOS 11.0 and later can run Flatpak. Flatpak may be the key to a Linux breakout. I wish Ubuntu would set aside their corporate egos and let Snap die. Canonical could have a huge windfall if Flatpak became a near-universal installer across Linux and Mac.
I started out with Windows 3.1. After the Windows 10 terms of service was revised, which turned my computer into a spy machine, I said enough. Learning a new OS is at times daunting, but at the same time exciting. I'm an old goat the started computing with tubes, then transistors, IC's, etc. Bottom line: Microsoft has completed its mission of becoming a virtual criminal enterprise.
I'm just guessing wildly, but I don't think there's such a mentality switch or rational thinking. In most of 3rd world countries (I live in one) Windows is pirated even at companies, unless it's a large enterprise which may get audited, so there's really no economic incentive there. Many independent developers create stripped down versions of Windows 10 and 11 which work quite well in not so powerful hardware, so hardware requirements are not that decisive. My guess is that there's a boom in programming careers, specially with the recent AI hype, which may be driving new students and devs to use Linux as it always had the reputation as being a better programming environment. The other reason could be a surge in SBC sales (like RPis) which usually ship or reccomend their custom distro, and may be recognized as desktop devices instead of mobiles for statistics purposes.
I upgraded Win11 to Win10, didn't like that so upgraded again to Win7 which is hugely better than 11 or 10, but it can't go on line, reasons. This Win7 upgrade though requires special hardware called "old" hardware ie skylake or older, newer machines are just not able to run Win7, if Linux could run Visual Studio, that would be a good option too.
device support is one reason why we need to manufacture compatible hardware almost like 3d printing stuff
Desktop Linux is finally maturing into an easy to use graphically attractive OS, while Microsoft is trying to force an ugly, half baked one on us to the point of demanding we buy new computers just to run it. This is not rocket science. Good luck, Microsoft.
This has happened before, it will happen again. Apple and Microsoft have angered the user base and people are experimenting with the promises that were made. When they find out that they still can't do things they need to do (like working with PDFs) without pulling their hair out over workarounds they'll leave as Linux haters. And so the cycle continues.
I'm a struggling new Linux user... but I refuse to go back.
Windows represents a criminal empire these days, as far as I'm concerned.
I was waiting until the usefulness of all my Windows apps became negligible, then switched eveything over to GNU/Linux.
Now, if only we can get ports or good WINE support for Adobe and Autodesk.... I know they are evil, but they are show stoppers for Linux in a lot of businesses.
Apple never take over linux or I’ll be one mad bitch
Still run windows. Just as a vm, without direct net access. Just as it was meant to be.
Microsoft said my hardware was insufficient to upgrade to future versions of Windows. Not interested in buying new hardware.
I think it's a combination of windows 11 requirements etc, gaming on Linux is getting much better, Linux is getting easier to install
My last windows disk goes in the shoebox this week. It shifted to most things probably not working on win7 anymore, and whilst there are a few things I preferred windows for, it's time to move on
I have used Linux for over 20 years, but I am still required to use Windows if I want to game. We need to be honest, until we are able to game on Linux like we can on Windows, Linux will never be able to compete. I hate that, but it is the truth 😢
Ubuntu will rule the desktop one day.. It just needs to fix some issues. But it's the best
Native apps is key. Emulation wont grow linux.
For me i got an ad in my windows menu. I downloaded arch shortly after, and switched my windows vm to international windows for when i want to play certain games
My arch vm does everything but like 2 games for me.
Do all the steam handheld computers count?
its undercounted
Steam deck was my main way of migrate to Linux
I wanted to buy M1 MacBook Air 16gb/512gb, the cost of that was 140,000 Rs in India. The base M1 Air had some good discount with final price of about 65k INR. I hate Apple because if you double the RAM and SSD the cost of M1 Air will more than double in India.
I didn't buy M1 air I had an old Intel MacBook Air with 8gb/256gb, I upgraded the SSD with Samsung 512gb and Installed Linux on it. It is working fine. I am waiting for Snapdragon X elite, hope it has good Linux and open-source support.
Qualcomm partnered with Linaro, and it seems they have Debian running on the X Elite. But I have the feeling the X Elite laptops will be very expensive.
@@LivingLinux Thanks the for the useful info.👍
Welcome back ! been long while since I seen a video from ya.. Linux this short amount of time has come a long way to point I have moved mostly to using flatpaks and building an immutable Distro of my own to fit my needs and maybe others, its mostly for me haha.
Steam Deck would pass 3 million units sold since its launch
linux is at 4.55 as of today
One reason I switched this year. Stability. Windows was the king until they shoved random updates and changed registry values by themselves. Now I use NixOS, and I will never go back. Just need to wait for microsoft office in linux, hopefully before I die! Then the entire company will be a declarative desktop! Imagine being able to deploy Linux desktops to the average office worker. Beautiful and exciting
Windows 11 audio has been glitchy on my i9 12900K, plus all the background crap makes my PC scream with heat. I think Windows E/P core handling is junk. Feels like a beta OS, I miss a few multiplayer games, but I can live without ring 0 access.
This is troubling.
The main reason why Linux is secure is that it is not a mainstream operating system. If it does become a threat to wondows it will
1) no longer be a free open source system
2) become just as attractive to hackers and viruses as windows
Linux runs about 90% of the worlds web and data servers. The most attractive target for "hackers" and "viruses" there can be. "Mainstream" public use is entirely irrelevant to its security.
The GPL ( General public licence ) means, legally, open source software remains free to use and of a free cost.
Nothing to be troubled about.
Dell, Lenovo and HP should get together and develop OEM Linux. Adobe and the games would be forced to port. Or they could just buy Zorin and put some money in it. It already looks like a polished, commercial OS and works basically like Windows.
I love desktop Linux.
In each of the first three months of this year I bought a new mini pc two Intels and a Ryzen, two bare bones and one with an unlicensed version of Windows installed on the nvme ssd which I removed and replaced before starting the computer for the first time. On all three computers I installed Gentoo Linux. How do those desktop computers get counted in the statistics?
ms windows adds
I've used Linux for a long time (since the late 90s) but for most of the time I used Macs as my primary machine because I have never accepted using Windows as an option, and Macs had enough mainstream support I was never stuck missing any essential software. My most recent computer I built about a year ago as a hackintosh (something that won't be possible for much longer), because it just made much more sense than buying a Mac Studio and I could dual boot Linux. What I wasn't expecting was for Linux to finally be so good that I eventually stopped booting into MacOS. I've got Blender, DaVinci Resolve, Ardour with windows VSTs using wine/yabridge, and lots of windows games with Steam, Proton, and Lutris... It seems for my next machine I won't worry about any OS other than Linux. The only thing I still need a Mac for is the occasional Xcode/iOS development, but I can use a cheap M* Mac Mini for that. Although one thing thing I'm not happy about right now with the Linux world is the stupid push to abandon X11... Wayland is still garbage and not an acceptable option for any of my use cases.
I think the main reason is TH-cam and there are more developers in the world. Linux is the best OS for programming.
I'd just like to interject that what you refer to as a Linux surge is actually a GNU/Linux surge, or as I like to call it, a GNU plus Linux surge.
No
During Corona i needed some distraction and i was very bored. I stumbled i to a Linux YT channel and thought it would be cool to revive my old laptop. That was 2020. I tested all the well known distributions and desktops to find out what fits best to me and my needs and taste. Switched over with my whole office and privacy related stuff to LMDE and i am happy with it. Windows still for gaming, especially my Flight Sims and the input devices/ headtracker and special software
I definitely Switch as soon as speech to Text is easily available and maybe the Logitech options plus Program.
Right now i shy away from this switch because i don't know if my own workflow would even be possible on linux and it's a lot of work to switch
That's the correct way to decide. Look at what you consider essential. See if there are workable Linux distro equivalent tools. Boot a live cd. Verify it works for your needs.
Certain accessibility features like full voice features are unlikely to be available because they are expensive to develope and require full control of the operating system sttack in a way the widely distributed linux free desktop development model can't do.
Be realistic and you will have abetter experience but please remember there is no one corporation making the stack that users can demand do the work. Many free software projects are either un or radically under paid.
@@noname-ll2vk thanks for your answer. i sometimes wonder why there's no paid model involved. Maybe linux could accomplish much more if users paid a certain amount per month subscription fee to the development team of that distro. Certainly some people wouldn't be happy about it but i mean we can't expect everything to be free. But to be honest i also have not much idea about how linux really works and how much there is one team or a broad community involved.
@@aivy-aigeneratedmusic6370 no. The reality is some advanced accessibility features that Apple and Microsoft can provide are because they employ literally 10s of thousands of programmers at a cost of probably 100,000 dollars per person. And they control the stack from kernel to desktop APIs totally. Nothing like that can happen on an OS like Linux, which isn't an OS, it's the kernel with a bunch of other bits attached, none unique or required. Even a company like IBM's Redhat is unlikely to touch or control even 1% of the codebase.
The two models are simply not compatible. Android and iOS are the same. Fully managed stacks.
Free Software desktops and window managers are much better off catering to the needs of the small groups who develop them and their real users because that is realistic and pragmatic.
Some distros either modify existing desktops (Mint's Cinnamon) or are making their own (Soluses Budgie or Pop_OS coming Cosmic) but these are tiny projects and only control a small fraction of the software actually used.
This is a feature not a bug of Free Desktops since managed corporate developed consumer operating systems already exist. Linux neither can nor should try to get those users but the software ecosystem should keep doing what it's been doing: making slow incremental improvements while being realistic about what can be done every year with their very limited resources.
Remember no non corporate linux distro gains a cent from getting more users. It's actually a cost. Nor are windows or apple type users likely to contribute much if anything financially or by helping in other ways.
Better to focus on strengths which is what they do. Very well. Been running linux since 2005. Never looked back.
@@aivy-aigeneratedmusic6370 youtube AI ate my full response. Key point: There is no such thing as a Linux desktop or server. Linux is only the kernel to which distributions add bits and pieces, none required or unique. People coming from unified corporate os like android windows apple have tremendous difficulty grasping that there is no "they" as in one group that made your os and thus "linux" as an operating system can't do anything because it doesn't exist as such.
Further there is also no such thing as "the" linux kernel. Since it's openn source free software, each distribution can ship whichever version they want with whatever features modules drivers enabled or disabled they want. TinyCore linux for example ships a fully working desktop system whose entire installation image size is 26 MiB. A default full desktop tuned kernel of similar version release is well north of 130 MiB before being installed.
The tool and desktop and window manager options are similar. This is the strength of the free software stack. It doesn't even require a linux kernel.
I think it's important not to try to make desktop linux fill a niche already filled by corporate operating systems and more importantly, which it can never match because Microsoft Apple Google can throw literally thousands of well paid programmers who have to do what they are told at any problem set. Amusingly often with massive failure as outcome. But also with excellent accessibility etc as result and good reliable software APIs
Hopefully this gives you a little glimpse into the reality. Which is a core strength not a failing.
Its honestly thanks to steamOS and chromeOS. Market share numbers sucks because it's not rly rhat accurate. For ex, steam os is ran through linux, but let not pretend like the steam deck IS linux is any way. It's not.
Chrome os is making up most of those numbers and, at least in the usa, is used is MANY schools so those numbers are also inflated from buisness use.
Pure DE use by your average user is still pathetically low, sadly.
I've long hoped that Linux would catch on, and maybe at some point surpass Windows. If that ever happens it's a long way off. But I have concerns about that (after watching Linux Experiment 'what if a corporate Linux OS'), that rather than the Linux ethos becoming widespread, the same monetising attitude would gradually prevail and erode that ethos, and so ruin the experience of using Linux.
many reasons, but wasn't aware it grew so hard actually seemed like it reduced, but might be normal users are now starting to use it, so I won't notice them to much.
love it when linux grows however, also why I try to help people when such big waves come like with the steamdeck
im pretty sure that has nothing to do with me. although i only get to use linux FULL TIME in this one year. i did made a lot of COMPLAINT about linux distros im using in the past 8 months alone. i dont think that makes people interested in linux. so, congrats.
linux is getting better, i have been running it for years. but now microsoft want to increase linux market share even more so they make windows worse
Windows 11 audio is pretty glitchy on P/E core Intel systems. On my old machine with an Nvidia card I would get screen blackouts every 30 mins. On Arch this doesn't happen. Windows 11 and beyond seems to be a hot mess.
14% in India, it's a looot of linux computers
I made the switch to Linux a couple of years ago. I still have to dual-boot for some things, but Linux is my default OS. I am also on older hardware and Linux is a tinkerer's dream. A driving motivator was to squeeze every bit of performance by re-compiling important packages from source for my CPU. And it makes quite a difference. I am now on CachyOS for a while now as it provides even x86-64-v3 and -v4 packages by default. Most of my games run equally good or better on Linux. There are still some annoyances with breakages from time to time, so I'd welcome any improvements by developers and game publishers (looking at you, EA and several anti-cheat suppliers) to care more about Linux nowadays.
I just avoid buying from EA and others since their junk doesn't work on Windows often enough now either. I hate this pay $70 for a new game just so it can miss 30% of the content and be buggy as hell. Indies at $20-$25 are better, funner and have more streamlined content than the AAA stuff.
4 times 0 is still 0.
Been using Linux for +20 years. All I can say is: damn kids! get off my lawn!! 😂😂😂
Linux Veteran here as well. I've been using it off and on since '08, back when Proton was first announced I went full time.
Yep almost at 5%. Once there, it should explode exponentially.
I use Arch, btw.
The return of the legend.
When Linux starts supporting software for CAD /CAM and other CNC purposes like 3D printers, vinyl cutters, and laser engravers, then maybe some of us will finally leave Windows behind. Until then, Linux is not an option……
It comes down to this. In the same time frame Linux has gone from 1% to 4% MacOS has gone from 11% to 22%. This says to me its less about Linux and more about Windows getting worse...by a lot. To be perfectly honest MacOS is far better than Linux in almost every way but the cost of a new Mac can be off-putting to some.
Whats stopping me from leaving windows for linux is the stupid anti cheat malware anti linux kernel
Keep a eye on China the Government end of this year the last 20% they need to get done be all there own home grown Linux distro, people daily pc may after grow over time.
Germany is going the same way to, along with France. Wouldn't be surprised if we reach it a couple years once Windows 10 dies.
@@phoenixrising4995 let see what happens, Microsoft got alot power around the area, I did read that the Government in Germany went to Linux back to windows then back to Linux. Only bigger thing about china that the government can out right ban Microsoft and Mac after ones the US start blocking even more china companies and their software.
The only problems I have with Linux is the thousands of detros. There's like 5 different distros or more for each target market. My second problem is hardly any software most people use run on it natively. Linux is a good solid Kernal, it's made huge progress over the last few years. I run Linux Mint on a laptop I had laying around from 2007, and it very usable. But you show average user the amount of choices, they'll say hell no and stick with Windows.
Those same users will then spend hours or days to find out how to tweak their windows so that it works the way they want to and often, they will fail but just shrug it off. One very common problem that is almost impossible to fix is that Windows keeps starting laptops and even desktops whenever it wants to if you told it to go to sleep. Linux just stays in hibernate mode until you turn it on.
I consider the choices to be a plus since people can pick what they want and also simply try them out in a virtual box before deciding which one suits their needs best.
There are like 10 basic versions of Windows. What's the difference?
@@notjustforhackers4252 Look I'm just stating my opinions. I don't hate Linux, it's made a lot of progress over the years, no doubt. But for most people it's not there yet.
@@celltest7645 Yeah you try to make a average user do all that and see how well it goes.
Like I said Linux is fine, it's stable, secure, and tweakable. But for the average user they don't care. They just wanna start the computer, and use it, nothing more.
@@eupher2 What is the problem there? To just install it and run it, almost all current major releases work fine. Those who want to stay close to the look and feel can go with Linux mint cinnamon, those who want an extremely stable flavor can go with Debian, those who like something in between can go with openSuse, those who want faster updates than they get on Debian can go with Ubuntu and so on but any of these will work fine for most use cases.
TPM off
I expect a further surge as we approach the Windows 10 EOL. My Lenovo Thinkpad P51 is working very well, the CPU being arbitrarily not included on the list of supported chips for an upgrade is infuriating, and the only thing I really need Windows for in the first place is MS Office. I think I can get by using the web-versions on my personal laptop.
Honestly libre office works just as well as MS office and is free as well
I'm typing this on my P51 running windows 11.
Too bad gaming on Linux will always be behind PC support. Look at HDMI 2.1, they refuse to support Linux. Most of the big best games out there don't have Linux support, and not viable with WINE due to performance issues and complexity to get working. Would be great to have all the hardware and software people need/want supported on Linux because Windows would die fast
hi. i'm 71. i do not like what i see in store for win11, and all that 'they gonna own yo machine' stuff.
i look at linux, and all i see are lines of good ol' DOS commands. i thought o left all that behind when DOS6 became windows 3.1!!
Then im thinking i have a 1TB western drive with all my stuff, text, vids, pdfs....when i plug that in will linux attempt to partition it and wipe all that off? here i am in win10, and was forced to use blech chrome just to read my email, after years of a 'fox' derivative!
i'm too old to put up with this stuff, and i dont have the money for a new win11 machine, even through qvc!
"i look at linux, and all i see are lines of good ol' DOS commands" The command line, like Windows and MAC, is a choice, not a requirement.
"when i plug that in will linux attempt to partition it and wipe all that off" It will if you decide to install Linux on that drive, yes, that's how it works. Will it do that behind your back? NO, why would it?
Get a small (256GB) ssd, install the Linux of your choice on it, plug in your 1TB as a second drive, and Bob’s your uncle.
The main reason is that Linux "just works" for most people now, so less people bounce off it.
Uh... India is using Linux for Hacking... that's concerning... not unbelievable... it's concerning.
That is a very specific assumption when you consider that 90% of the servers running on the majority of the infrastructure that is the internet, uses linux!
I wonder why that is your first thought 🧐
@@TunaTerps India knows Linux is the ideal OS for hacking. A lot of tools there for breaching servers and brute forcing passwords. Majority of India's tech industry is related to hacking and/or scamming. Anything to give them the easy $$$. That's why it's popular there. Not to mention it's free. Most of them are script kiddies but it's still there. Kids there code ya know. And it's concerning cause I've seen kids use actual hacking tools there and guess what OS they use? Linux. Windows is their bread and butter call center job description sales ring. If you don't know what that is, well... I hope someday you do. MacOS is their enemy though. Cause it's too expensive. The only way they get one is by taking one.... most of the time.
While I do like the fact that I now see Linux truly making their strides in the OS Market, I am just happy to have a different option other than Windows.
I think you're thinking of scams, not hacking. You don't need Linux to do phishing scams. I suspect cost is the bigger factor in India.
@@y29k15 This country needs its own internet. These people are literally ruining the web with their spambots, their scams, their stupid ai videos, their awful accents and so on. Every grift you can imagine
@@y29k15 Nope. I'm positive it's hacking too. India will always jump into anything tech-wise beneficial to them. Once they get into Kali Linux and other hacking software included in it, ha! You can bet their targets are major big time companies with vulnerable servers. And if it's small time stuff, they just steal smartphones and brute force your pin lock, disable your locator, and get whatever sensitive data they can find in it. They know... ok they know. They always have their eyes on tech stuff. If it's out in the open, it's out for the taking even if it's in your hands.
Scamming is just one scene for them. That's why it's concerning why majority of the % of Linux users are in India. They are learning to know that Linux is the key to getting into others banking accounts without even asking for banking details.
Hence it's not something to be impressed about. It's something to be VERY concerned about.
make Linux user friendly then see increase in percentage
Try Debian and Fedora,
With KDE Plasma or Cinnamon user interface.
If you are traditional Windows user you will love Linux with this combination.
The very notion of something being "user friendly" is a myth. Nothing is. There is only "user familiar".
Linux is user friendly. More so than Microsoft that's for sure.
@@notjustforhackers4252 Not as glitchy either as Windows 11.
bloat-ia spy-tpm-cost-adverts-evil-slow-365-win_version_eol-\things-unfree-closed..... vs beautiful linux