"Hey transit, Miles here"...never change, Miles! Not only is it too late to abort, but apparently it's too late for a fork! Second guessing whether it was a trip report at the beginning with the music coming in and out is the quality entertainment we come to this channel for! And I can't believe they use an airplane "ding-dong" to announce stops on GO trains. I agree that the Georgetown GO station is cute! The station was constructed between 1855 and 1856 and was designed by the Grand Trunk Railway chief engineer Francis Thompson and built by Casimir Gzowski. The station actually once had a water tower for steam trains, and used to have platforms on both sides of the station building, but the south side of it became a commuter parking lot. Dr Pepper was first made in a drug store in Waco, Texas and was formulated by Brooklyn-born pharmacist Charles Alderton. When he tested it, he first offered it to store owner Wade Morrison, and then everyone in town began ordering a "Waco." Alderton ended up giving the formula to Morrison, who named it Dr. Pepper after Dr. Charles Pepper, a Virginia doctor who was the father of a girl Morrison was once in love with. The drink was then introduced to the world at the 1904 St. Louis World's Fair!
Kitchener was originally settled by the PENNSYLVANIA DUTCH! This is because after the American Revolution, John Graves Simcoe, invited Americans like the Pennsylvania Dutch to settle in Upper Canada and offered tracts of land to immigrant groups, thus many Pennsylvania Dutch chose to emigrate to an area called the German Company Tract, a subset of land within the Haldimand Tract, in the Township of Waterloo, which later became Waterloo County, Ontario. Kitchener was first called Ebytown after members of the Eby family who moved there from Lancaster (though originally from Switzerland). It was then changed to Berlin in 1833 after the then capital of Prussia. However during the First World War, there was a lot of sentiment against the Germans living in the area. Rising tension in the community culminated in soldiers of the local 118th Battalion ransacking German social clubs and attacking an outspoken German Lutheran preacher. So in May 1916, there was a referendum where the Germans were intimidated by the 118th Battalion to vote in support of changing the name from Berlin, with just 51.32 percent in support. The following month another referendum was held to pick the new name, and Kitchener was selected with 38.79 percent of the vote, named in honor of Herbert Kitchener, 1st Earl Kitchener who was the British Secretary of State for War during WWI.
I love any video with a Trip Report jingle. Well done. I hope the ridership increases so they can return this trip to the schedule. I like long slow scenic transit trips. Perhaps you learned to invest in a set of travel-size reusable cutlery to keep in your backpack for future meal emergencies? Just saying. Thanks for sharing!
@@jiecut Yes, VIA takes 2h10 from to London to Toronto, while GO takes 4h03. That's because most VIA trains use the south mainline via Brantford, whereas the GO Train (and 1 daily VIA train) uses the north mainline via Kitchener, which is horribly maintained between London and Kitchener and therefore has a 30 mph (48 km/h) speed limit for that segment. That is why it takes 2.5 hours to get 91 km from London to Kitchener while making 2 intermediate stops, while it only takes 1.5 hours to get 103 km from Kitchener to Toronto while making 6 intermediate stops.
My favorite underrated travel tip: always bring spare forks! Too many bad experiences with takeout and a lack of forks. It’s easy to keep a few in my backpack
Nice catch on the F59PH locomotive at 1:31! And the new station at 2:50 is Mount Dennis. The station is being built on the lands formerly known as Kodak Heights, which was a camera manufacturing facility operated by the Eastman Kodak Company from 1918 to 2006. The station uses Kodak Building 9, a heritage building and local landmark, as a station entrance. Guelph was named after King George the IV, the British monarch at the time of Guelph's founding (who was king from January 1820 to June 1830), whose family the Hanoverians was from the Welf (or Guelph in English) lineage. This is why Guelph is known as the Royal City. London was named by John Graves Simcoe, who also named the local river the Thames, in 1793. The reason he named it London after the British capital is because Simcoe had intended London to be the capital of Upper Canada. However this plan of moving the capital there was rejected, but Simcoe's second choice of Toronto (which was first founded as York) was selected as the capital of Upper Canada in 1796, and Toronto would later become the capital of Ontario in 1867 when the Canadian Confederation was formed.
Kitchener, meanwhile, is named for Horatio Herbert Kitchener, 1st Earl Kitchener, who was a successful field marshal during the Boer War in the early 20th century. He was selected as the city's new namesake in 1916 - smack in the middle of the First World War - as its original name, Berlin, was distinctly out of favour at the time. The city was mainly founded by German immigrants and still maintains its German heritage, including with an annual Oktoberfest.
Brampton is named after the one in England's Cumberland, and it's called the Flower City because it once had a big greenhouse industry that was started by Harry Dale who built many greenhouses for roses and sold them across Canada. Come for the GO train review, stay for the cinnamon roll ASMR at 2:57. You know it's a good pastry when it has a nice crunch. Fun fact, cinnamon rolls originated in Sweden! Romans first introduced cinnamon from Sri Lanka to Europe and then much later after the First World War, Sweden developed the kanelbulle (literally cinnamon bun). During the war, there were restrictions put on the import of several goods such as sugar, egg and butter. People didn’t always have the luxury to bake what they wanted to. In the 1920s, these products started to return to shelves and cinnamon buns slowly started appearing throughout the country. But two of the main ingredients, cinnamon and cardamom, were pricy and not everyone could afford to bake or purchase these treats. So it wasn’t until the 1950s that they were affordable for the majority of the population. Now it is popular across the Nordic countries! In Sweden, October 4th is Kanelbullens Dag or Cinnamon Roll Day! The average Swede eats equivalent to 316 cinnamon buns per year.
@@MilesinTransithey, icing on cinnamon buns is great when done right. That’s the conclusion I reached after trying Cinnabon’s Japan-exclusive green tea icing.
Hey, Kitchener native here! Great to see you visit the area. The two-way all-day promise that was spotted in Guelph has a bit of a hitch as Metrolinx does not own the tracks between Georgetown and Brampton so will have movements restricted by CN. There had been a plan by the previous provincial government to build CN a bypass, but the new boys cancelled it when they came in and it's still not clear how it will get sorted out.
According to the Metrolinx Kitchener Line business case document, they have reached an agreement with CN to allow 1 train per hour all day as far as Kitchener, increasing to 2 trains per hour during peak periods. East of Mount Pleasant they can run up to 3 trains per hour, and east of Bramalea they can go nuts because they own the line and it's being quad tracked.
It’s very cool to see this trip from a different point of view! I’m a conductor for CN in the Toronto area and I regularly travel on all the lines you’ve filmed on!
You passed through Kitchener-Waterloo, which is currently trying to save its Symphony orchestra from extinction after financial backers pulled out. Reccomend looking it up to find more info, gofundmes etc
@@OntarioTrafficMan I agree. They could run a GO bus along highways 8, 7, and 4 instead which would provide better local service compared to this train. I hope that the Ontario government considers purchasing the CN Guelph sub in its entirety. They currently own it from Georgetown (where it starts) to Kitchener and CN isn’t going to make the track improvements past St. Mary’s to make the line as fast as it was before 2010. I think long term, this may be what they do.
@@OntarioTrafficManThey do, just not ran by GO transit. However you can take like flixbus, megabus, ourbus, etc. I think London is a little far for GO to be operating too 😅
Reece appears, but then doesn't take the train with you, but you _are_ joined by [REDACTED]^2, so that definitely qualifies this as a trip report. This honestly feels like if there was a commuter rail train through Upstate NY.
Metrolink has several lines that are more than two hours long, including my frequent ride between Los Angeles and Oceanside, 85 miles of travel through three counties.
2:50 the new station over there is mount dennis, it's probably gonna open along with the Eglinton Crosstown (whenever that's finished) but otherwise a pretty good trip report video!
Woohoo, GO Transit to Fake London! And a special guest, Reece! Stratford is the site of a famous theatre festival, so if they ever bring this service back they can get there by train. Wait, but why would they call it "London" in a French accent when there's literally a word for "Real" London (Londres). And it's kinda gnarly you got recognised! Celebrity status. 😎
You could always get to Stratford by train, the station has had passenger service continuously since 1856. But for most of the past few decades it's only been 2 trains per day, which reduced to 1 during the pandemic until this ridiculous GO service was temporarily added as a gimmick.
Kind of surprising that they didn’t refer to London as Londres since French Canadians tend to want to translate everything into French, even brand names.
@@MilesinTransit Justin was born in London, Ontario. (Not 'Fake' London, Just London, ONTARIO) He did spend most of his childhood in Stratford, Ontario. (Not 'Fake' Stratford)
Cool seeing this. I rode the Go Train (& a Go Bus) to get to Toronto from Niagara Falls after the eclipse this past April. The train from Burlington was clean and quite fast - faster than usual as it expressed to Toronto after Oakville. Rather cheap too, considering the distance. I gotta try a transit-only method to get from Buffalo, NY to Toronto one day.
Here in Italy it's quite normal to have regional trains whose origin and destination are more than four hours apart, and the kind of seating and service provided seems comparable to this one. Most of the people just travel on them for short segments, but I did the whole trip several times!
I bet those Italian regional trains travel farther than 195 km. It would only take the GO Train 2.5 hours from Toronto to London if they repaired the track west of Kitchener to its original condition.
@@ismaeltch5999 I regionali veloci Ancona-Piacenza ci mettono 4 h 35 e ci sono quasi ogni ora, io prendo abitualmente gli Ancona-Roma che ci mettono circa 4 ore, ma ce ne sono di più estremi, come il Ravenna-Genova Brignole (5 h 30), il Genova Brignole-Rimini (6h 14), entrambi una volta al giorno, il Pescara-Milano Centrale e v/v nei fine settimana (6h 27), e molti altri. Anni fa c'era addirittura un regionale Rimini-Termoli che fermava in tutte le stazioni o quasi, non oso pensare quanto ci impiegasse.
@@OntarioTrafficMan Another good example: Mainz-Cologne which to my knowledge is a comparable distance. There is a regional train which goes from one city to the other, though most trains terminate earlier in Koblenz. The whole trip lasts for three hours but it also travels through the curvy Rhine valley and there also are _a lot_ of stops on the line as well.
@@OntarioTrafficMan That's right, the longest Italian regional service I could find, from Pescara to Milan, takes 7 hours 33 minutes (not 6 as I wrote in the Italian language comment), but it travels around 570 km, with an average speed of around 75 km/h
I’ve looked at this line all the time on apple maps, but never put two and two together to realize it was the longest commuter rail in North America. This was a very cool video and and love the trip report series. On a different note, I thought that was really cool that you were recognized by someone who worked for the train you were on. (And the Reece cameo was also a cool part). quite the turkey ass turkey
Small world: the old station (with a caboose) that you missed taking a photo of received provincial heritage designation thanks to my late father's nerdy efforts in the 1980s. 😅
Good for him! St. Marys Junction Station is one of the only remaining original Grand Trunk Railway stations, dating from the era when the Grand Trunk Railway was just a single line from Montreal to St. Marys (and eventually Sarnia), before the GTR expanded to become the largest railway company in the world.
There's actually a lot of demand between Toronto, Guelph, and Kitchener. The Greyhound service between these cities and Toronto operated about every 20 minutes in the height of the afternoon peak. IIRC there were 4 or 5 departures scheduled from the Toronto coach terminal between 430PM and 6PM, and this doesn't count trips scheduled at the same time on different stopping patterns. And there was so much demand they often operated multiple sections and unscheduled extras. Until 1990 this service was actually operated by the TTC, by its Grey Coach subsidiary. For a long time Greyhound operated the services they inherited from Grey Coach under a sub brand (Greyhound Quicklink) and sold special commuter discount tickets and passes. This was before Greyhound Canada started to have financial problems in the late 00s and began the process of dismantling its network.
GO Transit also experiences so much demand on the Bramalea-Kitchener express bus (which connects to the hourly train service from Bramalea to Toronto) that during busy periods they run 3 double-decker buses express to/from Kitchener for each train arrival.
@@firehawk128 GO Transit runs a bus every hour from Guelph to Mount Pleasant, which connects to the train from there to Toronto. They also run 10 trains per weekday along the full route from Toronto to Kitchener
@@OntarioTrafficManI have to assume it's always full though, but I don't know if the University is being used as a bus hub anymore now that Greyhound is gone. But I guess the trip to downtown isn't too much.
seeing you ride this line is WILD. this go train frustrated me to no end, in college i could have ridden it easily to brampton from kitchener to get home for the weekends. but back then (2016-2020) it was only running from toronto TO kichener direction in the evenings, not the other way. It was many GO bus rides to brampton for me, LOL! not sure if the service has expanded in that direction yet, but i think they were planning to at some point
@@MilesinTransit London Transit doesn't have any NovaBuses. Their entire fleet is New Flyer. But yes I did have to search for a shockingly long time before finding a system without a 12-metre Nova LFS. It's possible that every system in Québec does have at least one, considering that's where Novabus is from.
Little does he know, Bramptons bus system is actually only called **Brampton Transit** ((Zum are just busses that are supposed to *stop less* on some of the main streets))
As a former GO bus driver (13 years, up until 2017), there were many days when I was just totally embarrassed by whatever GO cock-up was taking place that day. When Metrolinx came into existence...well, don't get me started.
I went on a GO train once. I managed to get from downtown Toronto out to the Royal Botanical Gardens on a Sunday. Though I have no memory of which station I got off at or weather or not I got a bus part of the way
@@MilesinTransit I prefer Presto over Opus Montreal. I rode the REM on Labour Day Weekend and it was a smooth ride. I just wish it existed early in my childhood. I grew up in Brossard, lived in Toronto for many years and now live in Ottawa, awaiting O-Train Line 2 opening.
Congratulations on being famous in Canada, how the conductor knew exactly what you're doing is strange, but congrats either way. Also I'm sorry to any employee who had to do this run, must be painful not to go to sleep in your own bed, when you're doing a "local train" , unlike VIA or Amtrak, where they have the excuse of being a Intercity system.
We were talking to the CSA and it sounded like a pretty great gig actually - I can't remember the exact hours/itinerary now, but you would do the morning train in and the evening train out.
Toronto might retake the crown soon. If an extension to Bowmanville is built and through-running is finalized, the GO Lakeshore line might go from Niagara to Bowmanville, with track length just above 200 km.
I haven't seen much about the Kitchener route anywhere, and I didn't know GO Transit were operating beyond Kitchener, so thanks for posting. One question though: the timetables I can find show VIA Rail also running trains 84 and 87 via Kitchener - are 82 and 83 going to be additional services?
No. 82 and 83 run via Brantford. In total there will be 5 trains per day from London to Toronto via Brantford, and there will continue to only be 1/day via Kitchener.
@@OntarioTrafficMan And I remember when on weekdays there were 3/day via Kitchener (2/day on weekends). The third train was a Toronto-London run.... that's the one I rode one morning in 2007 when I first rode that line.
I think you're referring about VIA 81 and 80 that ran Saturday evening and Sunday morning respectively between London and Toronto via Brantford. That service has not been reinstated.
12:17 " *VIA's* bringing back service between Toronto & London, and that's true. But it's not going *VIA* it's going the other way, which is *VIA* Hamilton." Via stays true to their name of how they operate via different routes. 😜
An the via station isn’t even in Hamilton it’s in the most inconvenient place if you take transit. But the 1 doesn’t also go there. You need to make sure you get on the right bus.
I had no intention whatsoever of subscribing. But, J Walter Weatherman at 5:27 has convinced me to change my mind. Also, depending on how you define the service, Amtraks Capitol Corridor is for some reason listed as "commuter" making it longer than this line. But I guess it's just semantics really.
Releasing this video in September but filmed in April(?) felt so confusing. I’m thinking- the leaves haven’t fallen yet. Also you need to do the Ontario Northland train all the way to Moosonee via Cochrane when the route returns.
I ride Metrolink our commuter Rail here in California. We have a lot of those Bombardier cars. They don’t have that glass though luckily.I feel like people could hit their head on that. It’s a shame that line is discontinued though.
4 hours is pretty long .Some of those local trains around Sydney in Australia are very long too, the ones that go to places like Newcastle and Wollongong.
From what I've heard the reason its being shut down has less to do with the ridership it got and more to do with operational issues relating to an upcoming renovation of London Station with there being no place where GO can park its trains overnight (they allegedly got approached by CN to park their train at their yard, but once CN learned of GO's security procedures they backed out). IANAE though and I could be wrong.
That is indeed the triggering factor, but GO never wanted to run the train anyway since it was forced on them by the Provincial government. They could still run from Stratford to Toronto if they wanted to, storing the trains in the Kitchener yard.
They probably thought more students would take it. Because Toronto Kitchener an London. All have both colleges an universities. London even has a Med School.
Wondering why there is a GO train from TO to London - learns Via stopped TO to London service (really?)!! I took the train from TO to London for a long weekend once and it wasn't bad and took Via to Ottawa and Montreal as well. I'm waiting for a GO bus trip report like taking the train to Aldershot and then transferring to the bus to St. Catherine's where you get dumped off at this random mall. Which may have happened to me.
Now that the Orlando extension's opened, I really think you should do a trip report for Brightline sometime later (though please do correct me if you're doing one soon). Really would love to see your perspective on it given that most people who've ridden it have given it such high praise.
Cant wait for that. Loved this video by the way, especially your brief interaction with Reese (could be one of the closest times we'll get a collab between you & RMTransit).
I didn't get the chance to ride that run while I was up there last summer or this summer. My consolation is that I rode the route on VIA in 2007, and over various trips covered the regular commuter zone between Toronto and Kitchener. The new platform (and track) at Guelph will basically be the only passing siding between Georgetown and Kitchener. The hourly service is going to have to be running very precisely to avoid delays, with the meet being at Guelph Central. They never did install Presto readers at London, St. Mary's, or Stratford, so I would have had the same ticket issues. Then again, once you tap on with a Presto card, you only have 3 hours to complete your journey before getting charged the highest possible fare (or something like that). My Appleby to Barrie run back in July was going to exceed that by 15 minutes out and 20 minutes back (due to connection times between trains), so I ended up getting a day pass for the round trip and coming out ahead on the fare. In 2007, the VIA run time on that line via Kitchener was just a hair over 3 hours. Now it's about 3 and a half hours; add in all the stops GO makes for the 4-hour run time. And it's all because GEXR let the track (and crossing protection) west of Kitchener go to pot during their operation of the Guelph Subdivision.
It looks like it would be pretty easy to add a second track at Acton for train meets if more capacity is necessary. There's a disused second track in there right now that I'm sure could be repaired without much problem. Acton is pretty small compared to Guelph and Kitchener-Waterloo, so they could easily just not add a platform and run some of the trains express.
@@thespanishinquisiton8306 I saw that track when I was shooting video there in 2022. But, I didn't see how far it extends west of the Hwy 7 crossing on one side, or east of the crossing at the east end of the station. It would need an extension at both ends, likely, to allow meets without having both crossings activated while one train is waiting.
@trainman1971 looking at the satellite imagery, it's about a kilometre long, which I assume is long enough for the trains. The right of way looks to extend even beyond that. The track condition looks very poor from what little I can see, so most of it would probably need to be rebuilt.
@@thespanishinquisiton8306 Whelp, that would work, then. As it is, though, the agreement with CN will limit service west of Mount Pleasant to every 30 minutes during peak periods and every hour during the off-peak and weekends. Run time between Georgetown and Guelph is exactly 30 minutes, so a meet point between Guelph and Georgetown will definitely be necessary, and there absolutely would be a meet at Guelph Central.
@trainman1971 It actually looks like trains currently run from Georgetown to Guelph in 27 minutes, so there's at least a little slack in the timetable. A second passing point would be better though
I have a suggestion/ challenge: Montauk to Waterbury. (I think) it’s the longest commuter rail ride that can be done on a single ticket. It costs $31.50 and takes roughly 7 hours.
I think the NJT one that Jeremy and I did (Port Jervis to Atlantic City) is still longer, but I want to do Montauk to Waterbury, especially with the new combo tickets!
So Brampton is a city not a town .. I find it odd I just started watching you like a week or so ago and already u have a a video in kitchener my city lol .. their is a buss company that stepped in to fill the void of greyhound..they go from Toronto to London I forget the name of them if they don't fill the buss they will send another type of vehicle and compared 3 hours from kitchener to London on go its just over a hour drive via the 401
@@awesomeman116a no it's not megabuss its ONEXBUS stands for ontario express buss I used them a handful of times last year to go back and fourth. All the times expect for one,bdid a big buss show up the last encounter they sent something smaller then a buss but bigger then a van Been googling some things and I don't see megabus stopping in kitchener I do see they go from Toronto to london so this must be why ONEXBUS covers the smaller places in between
I think that the LIRR's Jamaica/Montauk service does come VERY close to this, i feel like you should ride on the LIRR/metro north from Montauk to port jervis on one of your videos soon edit: "The LIRR's Montauk station is 117 miles from Penn Station and a total ride time of 3 hours and 16 minutes for the fastest train."
Yup the Montauk Branch will regain its title of the longest once this London service ends. I think doing the longest possible journey on a MNR/LIRR combo ticket is up his alley.
2:53 that new Station is Mount Dennis, its being built as part of a all new "Subway" (hardly) line to connect the new, yet to be opened TTC Line 5's western terminal (for now) to the GO network. In a rare decision (for Toronto) both the GO station and TTC station will share the same name, Mount Dennis. Fun fact, The TTC and GO only use the same name for Stations in very close proximity in 3 other places, Union, Downsview Park and Kennedy
Well, congrats, you got to ride it before it ended. This route ended because no one was using it... It was supposed to help connect London better to Toronto, but it is so much nicer, and faster to sit on VIA for about 2 hours instead.
A kind of crazy thing about Brampton is that due to its rapid population growth over the last 30 years more people now live there (656K) than live within the city limits of Boston
I think Go to Startford feels like the furthest extent (2-3 peak round trips, 1 reverse peak), and then give London its own commuter rail service with limited Kitchener service (2-3 peak round trips, 1 reverse peak), then you have 3-6 Corridor trains a day (be nice if there was a Corridor train that went between Windsor and Quebec w/o transfers)
Great video. Was this running on stick rail most of the way beyond Kitchener? I guess the 30mph MAS on much of that segment and super-low frequency didn't help things either. Hopefully they can find a quality and affordable solution to link Toronto and London in the future even if it's just officials making VIA a bit less expensive.
I argue that it does because the whole idea of the arrested development is stupid things like "that's why's you always leave a note" or in this case "that's why you always bring a fork"
Petition for Canadian episodes to be called Kilometers in Transit
I guess he needs to legally change his name in Canada
it should be KiloMiles in Transit
Correction: Kilometres in Transit / Kilomètres en Transit
@@dnwklin yes.
there is no such thing as Bigfoot, only Bigmeter 🇨🇦
1:31 little does he know how rare this is. Go Transit only has 8 F59PH locomotives left. They are very rare to see.
theyre the only ones allowed on that line + its common to see if you sit near union for a while
Yeah, Reece was saying the newer locomotives are too heavy for the bridges further down the line! Didn't know it was such a rare sight though.
Saw one on the Barrie line at like 10pm last saturday
no way!
"Hey transit, Miles here"...never change, Miles! Not only is it too late to abort, but apparently it's too late for a fork! Second guessing whether it was a trip report at the beginning with the music coming in and out is the quality entertainment we come to this channel for! And I can't believe they use an airplane "ding-dong" to announce stops on GO trains. I agree that the Georgetown GO station is cute! The station was constructed between 1855 and 1856 and was designed by the Grand Trunk Railway chief engineer Francis Thompson and built by Casimir Gzowski. The station actually once had a water tower for steam trains, and used to have platforms on both sides of the station building, but the south side of it became a commuter parking lot.
Dr Pepper was first made in a drug store in Waco, Texas and was formulated by Brooklyn-born pharmacist Charles Alderton. When he tested it, he first offered it to store owner Wade Morrison, and then everyone in town began ordering a "Waco." Alderton ended up giving the formula to Morrison, who named it Dr. Pepper after Dr. Charles Pepper, a Virginia doctor who was the father of a girl Morrison was once in love with. The drink was then introduced to the world at the 1904 St. Louis World's Fair!
Imagine naming it züm and not making the ü a smiley face
Ooh, good point
Kitchener was originally settled by the PENNSYLVANIA DUTCH! This is because after the American Revolution, John Graves Simcoe, invited Americans like the Pennsylvania Dutch to settle in Upper Canada and offered tracts of land to immigrant groups, thus many Pennsylvania Dutch chose to emigrate to an area called the German Company Tract, a subset of land within the Haldimand Tract, in the Township of Waterloo, which later became Waterloo County, Ontario. Kitchener was first called Ebytown after members of the Eby family who moved there from Lancaster (though originally from Switzerland). It was then changed to Berlin in 1833 after the then capital of Prussia.
However during the First World War, there was a lot of sentiment against the Germans living in the area. Rising tension in the community culminated in soldiers of the local 118th Battalion ransacking German social clubs and attacking an outspoken German Lutheran preacher. So in May 1916, there was a referendum where the Germans were intimidated by the 118th Battalion to vote in support of changing the name from Berlin, with just 51.32 percent in support. The following month another referendum was held to pick the new name, and Kitchener was selected with 38.79 percent of the vote, named in honor of Herbert Kitchener, 1st Earl Kitchener who was the British Secretary of State for War during WWI.
Thank you for this information, Supreme leader Kim Jong-Un.
As expected. The Supreme Leader knows every history known to man
I love any video with a Trip Report jingle. Well done. I hope the ridership increases so they can return this trip to the schedule. I like long slow scenic transit trips. Perhaps you learned to invest in a set of travel-size reusable cutlery to keep in your backpack for future meal emergencies? Just saying. Thanks for sharing!
It looks like the VIA schedule may only take 2 hours to get to London, that's almost double the speed difference?
@@jiecut Yes, VIA takes 2h10 from to London to Toronto, while GO takes 4h03. That's because most VIA trains use the south mainline via Brantford, whereas the GO Train (and 1 daily VIA train) uses the north mainline via Kitchener, which is horribly maintained between London and Kitchener and therefore has a 30 mph (48 km/h) speed limit for that segment. That is why it takes 2.5 hours to get 91 km from London to Kitchener while making 2 intermediate stops, while it only takes 1.5 hours to get 103 km from Kitchener to Toronto while making 6 intermediate stops.
My favorite underrated travel tip: always bring spare forks! Too many bad experiences with takeout and a lack of forks. It’s easy to keep a few in my backpack
Nice catch on the F59PH locomotive at 1:31! And the new station at 2:50 is Mount Dennis. The station is being built on the lands formerly known as Kodak Heights, which was a camera manufacturing facility operated by the Eastman Kodak Company from 1918 to 2006. The station uses Kodak Building 9, a heritage building and local landmark, as a station entrance. Guelph was named after King George the IV, the British monarch at the time of Guelph's founding (who was king from January 1820 to June 1830), whose family the Hanoverians was from the Welf (or Guelph in English) lineage. This is why Guelph is known as the Royal City.
London was named by John Graves Simcoe, who also named the local river the Thames, in 1793. The reason he named it London after the British capital is because Simcoe had intended London to be the capital of Upper Canada. However this plan of moving the capital there was rejected, but Simcoe's second choice of Toronto (which was first founded as York) was selected as the capital of Upper Canada in 1796, and Toronto would later become the capital of Ontario in 1867 when the Canadian Confederation was formed.
Thank you Supreme Leader for this insight. Will locomotives be used to transport those incredible True Korea firearms to Russia?
Kitchener, meanwhile, is named for Horatio Herbert Kitchener, 1st Earl Kitchener, who was a successful field marshal during the Boer War in the early 20th century. He was selected as the city's new namesake in 1916 - smack in the middle of the First World War - as its original name, Berlin, was distinctly out of favour at the time.
The city was mainly founded by German immigrants and still maintains its German heritage, including with an annual Oktoberfest.
Brampton is named after the one in England's Cumberland, and it's called the Flower City because it once had a big greenhouse industry that was started by Harry Dale who built many greenhouses for roses and sold them across Canada. Come for the GO train review, stay for the cinnamon roll ASMR at 2:57. You know it's a good pastry when it has a nice crunch. Fun fact, cinnamon rolls originated in Sweden! Romans first introduced cinnamon from Sri Lanka to Europe and then much later after the First World War, Sweden developed the kanelbulle (literally cinnamon bun).
During the war, there were restrictions put on the import of several goods such as sugar, egg and butter. People didn’t always have the luxury to bake what they wanted to. In the 1920s, these products started to return to shelves and cinnamon buns slowly started appearing throughout the country. But two of the main ingredients, cinnamon and cardamom, were pricy and not everyone could afford to bake or purchase these treats. So it wasn’t until the 1950s that they were affordable for the majority of the population. Now it is popular across the Nordic countries! In Sweden, October 4th is Kanelbullens Dag or Cinnamon Roll Day! The average Swede eats equivalent to 316 cinnamon buns per year.
Bramladesh
HOW DO YOU HAVE RELEVANT HELPFUL AND INTERESTING INFORMATION FOR EVERY VIDEO ABOUT EVERY SUBJECT????
The problem with the US is that we put icing on our cinnamon buns. That makes them so much worse!
@@MilesinTransithey, icing on cinnamon buns is great when done right. That’s the conclusion I reached after trying Cinnabon’s Japan-exclusive green tea icing.
Now I know why they have cinnamon buns at IKEA. Its a Sweden thing.
Hey, Kitchener native here! Great to see you visit the area. The two-way all-day promise that was spotted in Guelph has a bit of a hitch as Metrolinx does not own the tracks between Georgetown and Brampton so will have movements restricted by CN. There had been a plan by the previous provincial government to build CN a bypass, but the new boys cancelled it when they came in and it's still not clear how it will get sorted out.
According to the Metrolinx Kitchener Line business case document, they have reached an agreement with CN to allow 1 train per hour all day as far as Kitchener, increasing to 2 trains per hour during peak periods. East of Mount Pleasant they can run up to 3 trains per hour, and east of Bramalea they can go nuts because they own the line and it's being quad tracked.
@@OntarioTrafficManThank you! Now i can finally understand why they’re only electrifying to Bramalea!
Please don’t call yourself a “native” of anything unless you are indigenous.
@@lizardth7468 please take that perceived ownership of that word and shove it, identitarianism does nothing to help the indigenous.
@namm0x326 I am indigenous, so do not tell me what will and won't help my people. You sound really stupid.
1:04 me EVERY time someone sits in a bay of four arghhhh
EXACTLY! This is why I prefer when everything just faces the same direction! 😂
It’s very cool to see this trip from a different point of view! I’m a conductor for CN in the Toronto area and I regularly travel on all the lines you’ve filmed on!
Whoa, that's awesome!!
Hey. Do you know where I can find CNR history?
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I mean, who are they???
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Seeing you just now was a blast from the past
They’re always ***holes, probably why they prefer to be redacted.
You passed through Kitchener-Waterloo, which is currently trying to save its Symphony orchestra from extinction after financial backers pulled out. Reccomend looking it up to find more info, gofundmes etc
It’s unfortunate that this service is ending but the ridership isn’t there and the tracks need to be upgraded to make the service feasible long term.
Exactly. They should run a bus from Kitchener to London in the meantime until they fix up the tracks to be useful.
@@OntarioTrafficMan I agree. They could run a GO bus along highways 8, 7, and 4 instead which would provide better local service compared to this train.
I hope that the Ontario government considers purchasing the CN Guelph sub in its entirety. They currently own it from Georgetown (where it starts) to Kitchener and CN isn’t going to make the track improvements past St. Mary’s to make the line as fast as it was before 2010. I think long term, this may be what they do.
@@jacnelthey need extra stations
@@qjtvaddict where do you want to see more GO Train stations?
@@OntarioTrafficManThey do, just not ran by GO transit. However you can take like flixbus, megabus, ourbus, etc. I think London is a little far for GO to be operating too 😅
Reece appears, but then doesn't take the train with you, but you _are_ joined by [REDACTED]^2, so that definitely qualifies this as a trip report. This honestly feels like if there was a commuter rail train through Upstate NY.
Metrolink has several lines that are more than two hours long, including my frequent ride between Los Angeles and Oceanside, 85 miles of travel through three counties.
Antelope Valley is my personal favorite - and they're improving the service on it soon!
Miles in Transit for Jet Lag 👏👏👏
HECK YEAH!!!
Impromptu Reece appears talking about axle loads!
2:50 the new station over there is mount dennis, it's probably gonna open along with the Eglinton Crosstown (whenever that's finished) but otherwise a pretty good trip report video!
Woohoo, GO Transit to Fake London! And a special guest, Reece!
Stratford is the site of a famous theatre festival, so if they ever bring this service back they can get there by train.
Wait, but why would they call it "London" in a French accent when there's literally a word for "Real" London (Londres).
And it's kinda gnarly you got recognised! Celebrity status. 😎
Stratford is also Justin Bieber birthplace lol 🤢
You could always get to Stratford by train, the station has had passenger service continuously since 1856. But for most of the past few decades it's only been 2 trains per day, which reduced to 1 during the pandemic until this ridiculous GO service was temporarily added as a gimmick.
Okay, that Justin Bieber fact is nuts
Kind of surprising that they didn’t refer to London as Londres since French Canadians tend to want to translate everything into French, even brand names.
@@MilesinTransit Justin was born in London, Ontario. (Not 'Fake' London, Just London, ONTARIO) He did spend most of his childhood in Stratford, Ontario. (Not 'Fake' Stratford)
lol GO finally fixed the French 77777 announcement
This reminds me of Latvia's regional commuterish trains that only run to coastal cities twice a week for university students!
I didn't know about those, that seems to be filling a pretty similar purpose to this!
There is such a service in Slovakia too, but on only one route (like 30 min long), Plaveč - Lipany.
Great video can't wait for the (VIA) video.
Cool seeing this. I rode the Go Train (& a Go Bus) to get to Toronto from Niagara Falls after the eclipse this past April. The train from Burlington was clean and quite fast - faster than usual as it expressed to Toronto after Oakville. Rather cheap too, considering the distance. I gotta try a transit-only method to get from Buffalo, NY to Toronto one day.
Here in Italy it's quite normal to have regional trains whose origin and destination are more than four hours apart, and the kind of seating and service provided seems comparable to this one. Most of the people just travel on them for short segments, but I did the whole trip several times!
I bet those Italian regional trains travel farther than 195 km. It would only take the GO Train 2.5 hours from Toronto to London if they repaired the track west of Kitchener to its original condition.
@LucaPasini2 non so dove abiti ma qui da me non si trova un viaggio regionale sopra alle 2 ore e mezza
@@ismaeltch5999 I regionali veloci Ancona-Piacenza ci mettono 4 h 35 e ci sono quasi ogni ora, io prendo abitualmente gli Ancona-Roma che ci mettono circa 4 ore, ma ce ne sono di più estremi, come il Ravenna-Genova Brignole (5 h 30), il Genova Brignole-Rimini (6h 14), entrambi una volta al giorno, il Pescara-Milano Centrale e v/v nei fine settimana (6h 27), e molti altri.
Anni fa c'era addirittura un regionale Rimini-Termoli che fermava in tutte le stazioni o quasi, non oso pensare quanto ci impiegasse.
@@OntarioTrafficMan Another good example: Mainz-Cologne which to my knowledge is a comparable distance. There is a regional train which goes from one city to the other, though most trains terminate earlier in Koblenz. The whole trip lasts for three hours but it also travels through the curvy Rhine valley and there also are _a lot_ of stops on the line as well.
@@OntarioTrafficMan That's right, the longest Italian regional service I could find, from Pescara to Milan, takes 7 hours 33 minutes (not 6 as I wrote in the Italian language comment), but it travels around 570 km, with an average speed of around 75 km/h
I’ve looked at this line all the time on apple maps, but never put two and two together to realize it was the longest commuter rail in North America. This was a very cool video and and love the trip report series. On a different note, I thought that was really cool that you were recognized by someone who worked for the train you were on. (And the Reece cameo was also a cool part). quite the turkey ass turkey
Thank you so much!
Small world: the old station (with a caboose) that you missed taking a photo of received provincial heritage designation thanks to my late father's nerdy efforts in the 1980s. 😅
Good for him! St. Marys Junction Station is one of the only remaining original Grand Trunk Railway stations, dating from the era when the Grand Trunk Railway was just a single line from Montreal to St. Marys (and eventually Sarnia), before the GTR expanded to become the largest railway company in the world.
That's amazing!! Now I feel bad for missing it 😂
@@OntarioTrafficMan I still have the large plaque he received from the provincial government 40+ years ago.
There's actually a lot of demand between Toronto, Guelph, and Kitchener. The Greyhound service between these cities and Toronto operated about every 20 minutes in the height of the afternoon peak. IIRC there were 4 or 5 departures scheduled from the Toronto coach terminal between 430PM and 6PM, and this doesn't count trips scheduled at the same time on different stopping patterns. And there was so much demand they often operated multiple sections and unscheduled extras. Until 1990 this service was actually operated by the TTC, by its Grey Coach subsidiary. For a long time Greyhound operated the services they inherited from Grey Coach under a sub brand (Greyhound Quicklink) and sold special commuter discount tickets and passes. This was before Greyhound Canada started to have financial problems in the late 00s and began the process of dismantling its network.
GO Transit also experiences so much demand on the Bramalea-Kitchener express bus (which connects to the hourly train service from Bramalea to Toronto) that during busy periods they run 3 double-decker buses express to/from Kitchener for each train arrival.
This is how I went home on the weekends from Guelph. I don't know what I'd do now if I still had to make that trip now that buses are gone.
@@firehawk128 GO Transit runs a bus every hour from Guelph to Mount Pleasant, which connects to the train from there to Toronto. They also run 10 trains per weekday along the full route from Toronto to Kitchener
@@OntarioTrafficManI have to assume it's always full though, but I don't know if the University is being used as a bus hub anymore now that Greyhound is gone. But I guess the trip to downtown isn't too much.
One of the good thing about this is the ticket is way cheaper than the VIA. If they ever be able to run a GO train to Montreal is will be only 65$!
seeing you ride this line is WILD. this go train frustrated me to no end, in college i could have ridden it easily to brampton from kitchener to get home for the weekends. but back then (2016-2020) it was only running from toronto TO kichener direction in the evenings, not the other way. It was many GO bus rides to brampton for me, LOL! not sure if the service has expanded in that direction yet, but i think they were planning to at some point
Thankfully the main bit from Toronto to Kitchener is bidirectional and runs all day now!
IDK the last time anyone referred to Brampton as a "nice little town", was good to hear
7:48 there’s no aesthetic quite like a Novabus in a Canadian farm town in the middle of nowhere 😍😍😍
I love how every Canadian bus system, no matter how rinky-dink, is guaranteed to have 40-foot Nova LFS's!
@@MilesinTransit London Transit doesn't have any NovaBuses. Their entire fleet is New Flyer.
But yes I did have to search for a shockingly long time before finding a system without a 12-metre Nova LFS. It's possible that every system in Québec does have at least one, considering that's where Novabus is from.
What you've got to meet Reese an Geoff Marshall recently? I'm jealous!!!
"Imagine having commuter rail"
-Me, a guy who somehow commutes regularly using the Amtrak Heartland Flyer
A lot of people commute the NE corridor(AMTRAK) as well.
@@greenne Yeah, but that has more than 1 train per day.
So strange seeing all these places where I live in your videos! Love all the Canadian content. Hope you enjoyed your stay. : )
Thank you!
Little does he know, Bramptons bus system is actually only called **Brampton Transit** ((Zum are just busses that are supposed to *stop less* on some of the main streets))
Come to Houston and let’s ride our poor excuse for light rail together!
I've ridden it already! th-cam.com/video/rA-_gyVSWpE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=vOgvueWrMOjhzj8G
@@MilesinTransit oh darn. I just found your channel.
@@RobbZipp No, no worries at all! My backlog of videos is getting increasingly large and hard to keep track of...
Miles, I hope you know the AIATR Theme song is fire and reason why I binge watch your apparent trip reports.
Haha, thanks so much!!
SCREAMING I live in Guelph and take the go all the time so cool seeing u ride through
The montauk Penn ride is only a few miles shorter yet takes almost half the time!
Miles at the coalface of the intercity rail vs regional rail enigma
tbh that service was so well hidden on go's site I thought it had ended already
I like your perspective on GO transit. It has some flaws, but will be very good when all lines get all day service.
As a former GO bus driver (13 years, up until 2017), there were many days when I was just totally embarrassed by whatever GO cock-up was taking place that day. When Metrolinx came into existence...well, don't get me started.
I went on a GO train once. I managed to get from downtown Toronto out to the Royal Botanical Gardens on a Sunday. Though I have no memory of which station I got off at or weather or not I got a bus part of the way
It uses the same TTS voice in the 2017 Dodge Journey (my family owns one)
Happy to see you met some cool missionary kids on the train out to London! Always so nice to ride on GO Transit
Miles is Da Man!!!!
For your information, Presto is primarily used in GTA and Ottawa.
True, I always forget Ottawa uses it too!
@@MilesinTransit I prefer Presto over Opus Montreal. I rode the REM on Labour Day Weekend and it was a smooth ride. I just wish it existed early in my childhood. I grew up in Brossard, lived in Toronto for many years and now live in Ottawa, awaiting O-Train Line 2 opening.
Congratulations on being famous in Canada, how the conductor knew exactly what you're doing is strange, but congrats either way.
Also I'm sorry to any employee who had to do this run, must be painful not to go to sleep in your own bed, when you're doing a "local train" , unlike VIA or Amtrak, where they have the excuse of being a Intercity system.
We were talking to the CSA and it sounded like a pretty great gig actually - I can't remember the exact hours/itinerary now, but you would do the morning train in and the evening train out.
Its probably easier for them, after Kitchener, theres stops every like 45 min 😅
Let’s hope Jim can run better “commuter rail” to Rockford.
Miles in Transit and RMTransit and Fake London, now thats a crossover event.
Teasing the "Apparently a trip report" jingle at the beginning was genius
Seems very different from e.g. Cardiff Central to London Paddington, or Manchester Piccadilly to London Euston, or Weymouth to London Waterloo!
Toronto might retake the crown soon. If an extension to Bowmanville is built and through-running is finalized, the GO Lakeshore line might go from Niagara to Bowmanville, with track length just above 200 km.
I imagine a lot of people getting off at Stratford on a Friday are going to the Stratford festival (one of canadas biggest theatre festivals)
I haven't seen much about the Kitchener route anywhere, and I didn't know GO Transit were operating beyond Kitchener, so thanks for posting. One question though: the timetables I can find show VIA Rail also running trains 84 and 87 via Kitchener - are 82 and 83 going to be additional services?
No. 82 and 83 run via Brantford. In total there will be 5 trains per day from London to Toronto via Brantford, and there will continue to only be 1/day via Kitchener.
@@OntarioTrafficMan And I remember when on weekdays there were 3/day via Kitchener (2/day on weekends). The third train was a Toronto-London run.... that's the one I rode one morning in 2007 when I first rode that line.
I think you're referring about VIA 81 and 80 that ran Saturday evening and Sunday morning respectively between London and Toronto via Brantford. That service has not been reinstated.
I'm so spoiled with the UK rail network that when you said about hourly all day service i was like "yeah that's standard"
Perhaps a trip up the coast from San Francisco to Astoria, OR. It will take a few days to complete but it's doable.
12:17 " *VIA's* bringing back service between Toronto & London, and that's true. But it's not going *VIA* it's going the other way, which is *VIA* Hamilton."
Via stays true to their name of how they operate via different routes. 😜
An the via station isn’t even in Hamilton it’s in the most inconvenient place if you take transit. But the 1 doesn’t also go there. You need to make sure you get on the right bus.
Now that I say that you can take GO there.
6:11 that tractor is pulling a manure sprayer, so the overpowering smell of manure is not surprising.
I had no intention whatsoever of subscribing. But, J Walter Weatherman at 5:27 has convinced me to change my mind. Also, depending on how you define the service, Amtraks Capitol Corridor is for some reason listed as "commuter" making it longer than this line. But I guess it's just semantics really.
Releasing this video in September but filmed in April(?) felt so confusing. I’m thinking- the leaves haven’t fallen yet.
Also you need to do the Ontario Northland train all the way to Moosonee via Cochrane when the route returns.
Never been on a train here in the US or Canada, let alone commuter rail. But I still watch this
??? you probably heard this elsewhere, but nobody uses the train to commute from London! I'm amazed that it goes that far.
I always carry a MRE spoon in my bag. It’s come in handy many times when my Uber Eats shows up sans cutlery
I ride Metrolink our commuter Rail here in California. We have a lot of those Bombardier cars. They don’t have that glass though luckily.I feel like people could hit their head on that. It’s a shame that line is discontinued though.
4 hours is pretty long .Some of those local trains around Sydney in Australia are very long too, the ones that go to places like Newcastle and Wollongong.
Stratford still is lamenting the loss of the GO service. Now they only have the Transdev minibus that runs to Kitchener infrequently.
At 122 miles, it's only slightly longer than NY Penn Station to Montauk.
The "is it or isn't it" intro had me 💀 lol
From what I've heard the reason its being shut down has less to do with the ridership it got and more to do with operational issues relating to an upcoming renovation of London Station with there being no place where GO can park its trains overnight (they allegedly got approached by CN to park their train at their yard, but once CN learned of GO's security procedures they backed out). IANAE though and I could be wrong.
That is indeed the triggering factor, but GO never wanted to run the train anyway since it was forced on them by the Provincial government. They could still run from Stratford to Toronto if they wanted to, storing the trains in the Kitchener yard.
That wouldn’t be bad. A lot of people want to go there for the festival.
yesss a trip reporttyy
As expected, yet another banger of a video. Not much else to say other than it's a shame to see this line go so soon, can't wait til the next
Thanks a lot!
You were absolutely right, I do love the latest from this series!!
Thank you!!
They probably thought more students would take it. Because Toronto Kitchener an London. All have both colleges an universities. London even has a Med School.
As a former GO Transit bus driver now driving in Orlando, "thank you!"
Wondering why there is a GO train from TO to London - learns Via stopped TO to London service (really?)!! I took the train from TO to London for a long weekend once and it wasn't bad and took Via to Ottawa and Montreal as well.
I'm waiting for a GO bus trip report like taking the train to Aldershot and then transferring to the bus to St. Catherine's where you get dumped off at this random mall. Which may have happened to me.
VIA still runs trains to London, but fewer than pre-Covid. Only one a day each way on the line through Stratford.
Oooohhh that makes more sense. I was very perplexed! Thanks! @@rob448
VIA never stopped service from Toronto to London. There are 5/day via Brantford and 1/day via Kitchener.
Yes seeing how packed that bus is an how many people get off an on in st cath. I’m shocked they haven’t updated the stop. They did add a machine.
3:23 Little does Miles know that Brampton has 650.000 people in it
4 hour trip to London from Toronto is the reason this line got discontinued.
Now that the Orlando extension's opened, I really think you should do a trip report for Brightline sometime later (though please do correct me if you're doing one soon). Really would love to see your perspective on it given that most people who've ridden it have given it such high praise.
You will love my next video! 😂
Cant wait for that. Loved this video by the way, especially your brief interaction with Reese (could be one of the closest times we'll get a collab between you & RMTransit).
Thank you!
Probably the first and last time that I will see a GO transit into London Ontario .
A tractor? Never once in my life would I see a tractor while riding a commuter train.
Wow, I didn't even know this route existed. It sounds exhausting. lol
Hey! That boardwalk system is in my hometown. Bigger than St. Mary's, but we tore down our train station in the early 20th century so no stop for us
I didn't get the chance to ride that run while I was up there last summer or this summer. My consolation is that I rode the route on VIA in 2007, and over various trips covered the regular commuter zone between Toronto and Kitchener.
The new platform (and track) at Guelph will basically be the only passing siding between Georgetown and Kitchener. The hourly service is going to have to be running very precisely to avoid delays, with the meet being at Guelph Central.
They never did install Presto readers at London, St. Mary's, or Stratford, so I would have had the same ticket issues. Then again, once you tap on with a Presto card, you only have 3 hours to complete your journey before getting charged the highest possible fare (or something like that). My Appleby to Barrie run back in July was going to exceed that by 15 minutes out and 20 minutes back (due to connection times between trains), so I ended up getting a day pass for the round trip and coming out ahead on the fare.
In 2007, the VIA run time on that line via Kitchener was just a hair over 3 hours. Now it's about 3 and a half hours; add in all the stops GO makes for the 4-hour run time. And it's all because GEXR let the track (and crossing protection) west of Kitchener go to pot during their operation of the Guelph Subdivision.
It looks like it would be pretty easy to add a second track at Acton for train meets if more capacity is necessary. There's a disused second track in there right now that I'm sure could be repaired without much problem. Acton is pretty small compared to Guelph and Kitchener-Waterloo, so they could easily just not add a platform and run some of the trains express.
@@thespanishinquisiton8306 I saw that track when I was shooting video there in 2022. But, I didn't see how far it extends west of the Hwy 7 crossing on one side, or east of the crossing at the east end of the station. It would need an extension at both ends, likely, to allow meets without having both crossings activated while one train is waiting.
@trainman1971 looking at the satellite imagery, it's about a kilometre long, which I assume is long enough for the trains. The right of way looks to extend even beyond that. The track condition looks very poor from what little I can see, so most of it would probably need to be rebuilt.
@@thespanishinquisiton8306 Whelp, that would work, then.
As it is, though, the agreement with CN will limit service west of Mount Pleasant to every 30 minutes during peak periods and every hour during the off-peak and weekends. Run time between Georgetown and Guelph is exactly 30 minutes, so a meet point between Guelph and Georgetown will definitely be necessary, and there absolutely would be a meet at Guelph Central.
@trainman1971 It actually looks like trains currently run from Georgetown to Guelph in 27 minutes, so there's at least a little slack in the timetable. A second passing point would be better though
I have a suggestion/ challenge: Montauk to Waterbury. (I think) it’s the longest commuter rail ride that can be done on a single ticket. It costs $31.50 and takes roughly 7 hours.
I prefer Newark DE to Montauk since it's farther in a straight line.
I chose a route that could be done with a single ticket
I think the NJT one that Jeremy and I did (Port Jervis to Atlantic City) is still longer, but I want to do Montauk to Waterbury, especially with the new combo tickets!
So Brampton is a city not a town .. I find it odd I just started watching you like a week or so ago and already u have a a video in kitchener my city lol .. their is a buss company that stepped in to fill the void of greyhound..they go from Toronto to London I forget the name of them if they don't fill the buss they will send another type of vehicle and compared 3 hours from kitchener to London on go its just over a hour drive via the 401
megabus? if its megabus then its not like greyhound stopped and another one started, greyhound just gave their service to megabus
@@awesomeman116a no it's not megabuss its ONEXBUS stands for ontario express buss
I used them a handful of times last year to go back and fourth. All the times expect for one,bdid a big buss show up the last encounter they sent something smaller then a buss but bigger then a van
Been googling some things and I don't see megabus stopping in kitchener I do see they go from Toronto to london so this must be why ONEXBUS covers the smaller places in between
There are four bus companies that go between Toronto and London: Onex, Megabus, Flixbus and Trailways.
Surely some people are going Kitchener to London?
I 100% Love a Trip Report :)
I think that the LIRR's Jamaica/Montauk service does come VERY close to this, i feel like you should ride on the LIRR/metro north from Montauk to port jervis on one of your videos soon
edit: "The LIRR's Montauk station is 117 miles from Penn Station and a total ride time of 3 hours and 16 minutes for the fastest train."
Yup the Montauk Branch will regain its title of the longest once this London service ends. I think doing the longest possible journey on a MNR/LIRR combo ticket is up his alley.
It’s also hard to decide whether Montauk or London is a prettier ride. Not as pretty as the MARC Brunswick line, though.
I was gonna say this was clickbait but I realized the Milton line is just really slow 💀
@@AverytheCubanAmerican ¿What's an MNR?
@@ChasMusic Metro-North Railroad, which the original comment mentioned. It serves Hudson Valley and Connecticut
2:53 that new Station is Mount Dennis, its being built as part of a all new "Subway" (hardly) line to connect the new, yet to be opened TTC Line 5's western terminal (for now) to the GO network. In a rare decision (for Toronto) both the GO station and TTC station will share the same name, Mount Dennis. Fun fact, The TTC and GO only use the same name for Stations in very close proximity in 3 other places, Union, Downsview Park and Kennedy
Loved the @DownieLive reference at 7:53 😂
woah, that was a 4 HOUR trip?! I had no idea Go Transit went that far. That's like more than the entire length of the Amtrak Keystone Service
(It's about 2h15m by Via if you don't go through Kicthener)
I used (what is now) Trains NSW to get to college from home. It was four hours and three changes
You can tap on and off at the presto stands and then you’ll get the presto fare
The stations past Kitchener don't have Presto stands!
Well, congrats, you got to ride it before it ended. This route ended because no one was using it... It was supposed to help connect London better to Toronto, but it is so much nicer, and faster to sit on VIA for about 2 hours instead.
But Via is so expensive for the last-minute travel decision.
A kind of crazy thing about Brampton is that due to its rapid population growth over the last 30 years more people now live there (656K) than live within the city limits of Boston
God, Boston needs to build more housing
I think Go to Startford feels like the furthest extent (2-3 peak round trips, 1 reverse peak), and then give London its own commuter rail service with limited Kitchener service (2-3 peak round trips, 1 reverse peak), then you have 3-6 Corridor trains a day (be nice if there was a Corridor train that went between Windsor and Quebec w/o transfers)
Great video. Was this running on stick rail most of the way beyond Kitchener? I guess the 30mph MAS on much of that segment and super-low frequency didn't help things either. Hopefully they can find a quality and affordable solution to link Toronto and London in the future even if it's just officials making VIA a bit less expensive.
I argue that it does because the whole idea of the arrested development is stupid things like "that's why's you always leave a note" or in this case "that's why you always bring a fork"