America's Longest Commuter Rail* Trip
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2022
- *Depending on your interpretation of the West of Hudson Metro-North Lines and the NJT River LINE, anyway.
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American Dream turned out to be awesome
Keep up the great work gentleman!
If it is any consolation, I have no idea what you are talking about.
Port Jervis having an NYC subway map at the station is absolutely hilarious
Yup
Jeremy's enthusiasm is infectious. I mean, how can you NOT wanna take a train journey with him?
fr i have never seen a man so excited to go to secaucus
@@indisciipline Seriously; when I was a kid, my mom always made fun of Secaucus because it used to be full of stockyards and smelled like pigs.
Not to mention Jeremy is easy on the eyes. Cute transit nerds = 😍
@@lewnwdc Yes!
for sure, wonderful energy
I don't think I've ever seen such a strong reaction to anything as your reaction to having to take the River Line
Note to self, make that a meme later.
>When you miss the SEPTA Transfer at Trenton and the next train's in 50 minutes
"Wow...I feel like pedestrians are really prioritized here...SHUT UP"
~ Miles in Philadelphia, walking to the NHSL
NJ Transit really needs to extend the North Jersey Coast Line all the way to Atlantic City and down to Cape May.
I think it’s also important for NJ transit to reactivate and build a S NJ rail system centered around 30th street station in philly.
Being able to take the train to wildwood would be awesome
My grandfather used to work on the Blue Comet trains that went down there.
@@davidfreeman3083 Exactly. Because there are so few NJ Rail lines that cross into Philly, as opposed to all the lines under the Hudson river, NJ Rail Transit may as well be NY Transit.
No right of way exists there anymore
I can't believe there's a Port Jervis trip that makes all stops to Secaucus - that's brutal!
A remnant of the Erie RR.
Most of the port jervis trains are express
@@zachfila until this video, I thought ALL of them were express
There are a few - trains 41, 62 and 67 on weekdays; and 69, 70, and 82 on weekends. There are others that are semi-local; they'll make a few stops on the Main and Bergen, but skip a few along the way. There are also two Harriman expresses during the week - trains 50 (eastbound) and 59 (westbound). The super locals are brutal for both the passengers and the crews! 🥴
I actually rather like the River Line. A few years back I went from NYC to Philadelphia via NJ Transit, the River Line, and PATCO. It was easily the cheapest way between the cities, and it was also a pleasant and scenic ride.
Oh, I do too - every small city in the US needs its own River LINE! The reaction was mostly in shock that they were having us take such a seemingly unorthodox service.
I done the same it was a 4 hour journey
Secaucus Junction is the Mecca of Solari boards, love how the lines have their own color-coded dedicated boards instead of the typical black one. The indoor ski slope at the American Dream mall sounds dumb at first, but when you realize it's targeted towards NYC people who want to ski but can't or don't want to go too far, then it makes sense. Also, I definitely count River LINE as commuter rail. It was the first hybrid rail system to open in the US back in 2004. Hybrid rail meaning a light rail with commuter elements. Other examples of hybrid rail systems are San Diego's Sprinter and Fort Worth's TEXRail
Let's not forget the DCTA A-Train with their Stadler GTW 2/6 fleet...
I took a picture of the ski slope the last time I was home in Jersey. I don't ski, but it looked like fun and no threat of avalanches.
Oh my God, the shot with Jeremy introducing his favorite place on Earth, and then his face literally lights up, that is a GOLDEN shot right there.
You guys excitement is the cutest thing ever, just a pure appreciation for trains and stuff
I will beat up any of the New Jersey haters. Also great trip haha
NJT has three lines to western Jersey and Amtrak Connect Us proposes two lines out that way. Any crossing to PA in that region would be great. And scenic. Seems to me the highway congestion really starts on the PA side, but I’ve only done the trip a few times. Needs more freight on rail too.
theres something hilariousness about wating 30 - 50 minutes for a train, you finally start seeing the light's approach, you get hyped because you're finally leaving that horrible purgatory, you get up from your body heat warmed throne, the train approaches, and it's a freight train going 5 mph, and too add salt to the wound, you get a notification that your train's delayed for another hour
I don’t know why TH-cam decided to show me this video, but I really enjoyed it. Subscribed!!
The algorithm randomly decided to make it pop off yesterday - thanks so much for watching!
You either commute or have some train search on your phone. Algorithm is getting good now a days..
New Jersey is a lot like Belgium but in America. Centrally located, with similar terrain and climate, both densely populated and very suburban, they're the but of jokes for neighbors but oh so interesting and steeped in history.
I started thinking about it since a similar trip here would be around the same distance and a single fare would cost about $30 as well. 😅
That's...a really funny and accurate comparison! Not to mention the very different cultural links to each of its neighbors depending on where you are.
That was my daily commute, from Jervis-Hoboken, then PATH to the WTC. Crossing the Moodna viaduct (between Salisbury Mills-Cornwall and Harriman, going East, was always awesome for taking pictures. Took naps never fearing I'd miss my stop, lol. Thanks for the memories, and posting. Safe travels!
Meant to add: In the beginning you were standing on the bridge that links to Pa., over the Delaware. Actually, you were standing in Pa. If you faced East, you could see the mountains of nJ, with the Memorial to the Soldiers and Sailors of NJ-it's the highest point in NJ, from where you can see 3 states: NY/NJ/Pa., and maybe the Catskills if visibility's clear.
We talked about that on camera but I cut it out for a snappier intro - very cool that we traversed three states though!
I love your travels with Jeremy. Such good chemistry and pairing. Can't wait for your next joint adventure.
I REALLY enjoyed this video! watched it from start to finish without skipping, you two are really captivating to watch and i'd love to see more adventures like this on your channel!
Thank you!
The pagoda in the middle of the woods is where the Falun Gong headquarters is.
7:33 Ironically, just a couple days ago, I was on a road trip to Washington DC via NJ Turnpike, and I was passing by Secaucus Junction and saw an 8 car Multilevel with that same locomotive, 4601! Great video btw, that wait at Pennsauken was completely unnecessary though, if only NJT made tickets for the Trenton line at SEPTA...
A fun feature of the Princeton Junction stop is that there's a tiny little train (called the Dinky) that goes from the Junction right to Princeton's campus/the town. The Dinky was down for a good year while I was at school there and it was a nightmare. I grew up in NY, went to school in Jersey, and love the weird little intricacies of the rail transit around there. Loving your videos!
The Dinky is amazing!!
This is a video I have on repeat! Miles is definitely my favorite transit TH-camr! Him & Jeremy are so funny as well!
Thanks so much!
That was fun. I've taken the River Line from Trenton to Camden. I got a little lost looking for the PATCO station and met a gentleman who was convinced I was an undercover policeman. It took a few minutes to shake him loose.
“Stop watching this video”
*video ends anyway*
So a couple things: the sign at Garfield actually *was* the standard NJT sign in the 80's and 90's before being switched over to the more ornate ones. There are a few examples left besides Garfield; East Orange and Kingsland come to mind (Kingsland 's days are numbered anyway, as the new Lyndhurst station takes shape). Also, all NJT lines besides the AC are officially east and west: east towards NYC/HOB, and west away from them. Of course, in complete logical logic, the one true east-west line, the Atlantic City, is... (wait for it)... North (toward Philadelphia), and South (towards AC) 🥴
Great job, as always! 👍
Funny video, brings me back to the shenanigans during my high school days. Back in 2004-2005 used to spend entire full days transitfanning all over the place, the whole MTA subway/bus system, MNR, LIRR, NJT, PATH, etc. Tons of long train rides like this to Jersey, out to Montauk, up to Connecticut, etc. I still have a shit ton of videos and pictures from those days (uploaded the pictures to my website) but we never did any kind of vlog videos like this unfortunately. Of course we didn't have iPhones, Go Pros or even TH-cam yet, just me and my trusty Sony DSC-V1 lol
This brings back memories for me of living in NYC back in the 1970s. The NY Metro area by far has the most extensive commuter rail system in the US. No other city comes even close. In NY, the commuter trains connect with the NY subway system and also with the Amtrak lines.
On your next rail adventure, you can connect with the PATH trains in NJ over to NY and then connect with the LIRR at Penn Station and explore Long Island, including the ocean beaches. The LIRR trains are also a little faster, going at 80 mph at many places.
I'm not at all surprised that your sandwich was good. The East Coast is known for it's delectable deli sandwiches.
My solution was take the lettuce off and throw it away and add a little mustard.
PATH is legally a commuter rail train too, so it's technically a complete link of 'commuter rail'.
Sad isn’t it
I'd consider the River Line Commuter Rail for sure. Operating at 15 minute headways during Rush Hour is pretty solid for what I'd consider a kind of weird line. Why it wasn't just built as heavy commuter rail is beyond me but I'm sure NJT had some weird justification, they seem to love hamstringing services in South Jersey
I've never set foot on the US but I want so badly to befriend you guys!! This video is priceless
You guys are living the life I wish I had
Fun fact about the Ramsey Rt 17 station: the parking garage is so underused that (I believe) they've begun leasing out spaces for people to store old cars there. I went up there one night to get some pictures of the moon and was shocked to see a clean AMC Gremlin... and then a mid-70s Lincoln Continental... and then a Honda Beat... and before I knew it it was like I'd stepped into some weird time warped parking garage. Surreal, but also kinda cool. But yea, bottom line that parking garage is VERY underused.
Okay, that admittedly sounds kind of amazing.
Imagine doing that for your daily commute! Thanks for proving that it's possible, but I think that's one route I won't be doing in a single day!
There's something about travelling thru the Pine Barrens that just lulls me off to sleep... It's such a tranquil area (but it's not a bad thing)
The train rumbling through there at 80 MPH is so relaxing too.
@@MilesinTransit it was definitely one of my favorite parts of that trip, especially because it was my first time experiencing it!
Thanks for that interesting ride. I have ridden the Atlantic City line many times from both Philadelphia and Cherry Hill. The line generally has good service but is subject to delays sometimes due to switch or bridge problems. Since I am going to or from Philadelphia I also have the option of transferring to PATCO at Lindenwald if there are problems affecting the line into Philadelphia. I also rode the River Line once to Trenton and agree it is a scenic ride. As you mentioned in the video NJ Transit most likely routes you via the River line because it was an easy transfer to the AC line and if your train was on time most likely would have made a better connection than riding SEPTA to 30th street and transferring there. However you would have had another good place to get food at 30th street station since there are many food outlets there that are usually open during commuting hours. I have only ridden a few of the northern New Jersey regional rail lines but always thought a ride to Port Jervis would be interesting. Keep those unique and odd train and transit videos coming.
The Port Jervis Line is beautiful, strongly recommend!
8:43 the train stop is the reason why everyone in NJ knows my town exists.
I know a guy who used to live in Egg Harbor. I never heard of this place before him. Then he moved to Orlando with his family.
Fun trip. So glad you took the river line. Love Miles' Vignelli diagram tshirt.
I grew up in Bergen County North Jersey. Waldwick was my train stop one of the things that I noticed was that since the line was so old many of the towns developed around the central train station that’s why you see such a great stops like Hohokus. We used to take the train to Hoboken back then there was no Secaucus junction and then take the path into the city it was a great way to have a lot of fun in your teens growing up in North Jersey.
I always take the PATH (unless there's construction). I find the transfer at Secaucus to be very unpleasant (those damn turnstlies!)
Thanks for the video!
Thank you for watching!
i get unnaturally excited when i see stuff from where im from on the internet so thank you for making this video and showing jersey, especially south jersey, some love!
Thanks so much for watching!
This is so nuts. I really liked and have been wanting to do this myself. Good luck on your trips.
Thanks!
I grew up in Otisville, thanks for featuring this! Also trivia, near Otisville is the Otisville state (and federal) prison. That land was once the Sanitariums of the late 1800s for Tuberculosis patients to live in clean air treated by doctors with fresh food grown on the farm there.
This is so awesome!! I have family in the greater Port Jervis area and go to the station to see trains when I visit.
I think San Diego to Lancaster, CA -- which can be done with three commuter trains on a weekend for about $15, might be longer than your trip from Port Jervis to Atlantic City. Mind you, I regularly go round-trip from Oceanside to Los Angeles on weekends, and that is about 180 miles.
Our rule was that it has to be purchased from one ticket machine! Could you actually buy that ticket on one machine?
@@MilesinTransit - No. That's kind of a funny rule, but its your contest. But Metrolink goes a long ways. The longest line is the Orange Co. line from L.A. to Oceanside, 90 miles.
I was going to suggest just this. You could start in Ventura, San Bernardino, Lancaster, or Perris via Metrolink (or Riverside, but the Perris train passes through that-two different routes to go Riverside to LA), change to the Orange County Metrolink line at LA Union Station, then change to the Coaster in Oceanside, then go to San Diego.
But you would have to buy your Coaster ticket at Oceanside. Coaster and Metrolink are separate.
It also won't be long for a trip from San Francisco to Natomas or Merced via San Jose will be possible, although that's not a reasonable way to go from SF to SAC.
As somebody that grew up in Orange County NY, it’s so interesting seeing the passenger view from that bridge I would hike by! Great video!
This was my first ever liked in transit video I have watched, and have been subscribed ever since!
Very cool! This reminds me of a video series called Megaloping that 2 people done in 2007 (?) from Virginia to Maine via a variety of local transit vehicles.
I'd like to visit New Jersey someday, like actually be in New Jersey and not just passing through on the way to DC.
I love these types of videos
Woodbury Commons: Nearby to there was also the first of the many "Gasho of Japan" teppanyaki restaurants, founded by Shiro Aoki, brother to the Benihana restaurant chain founder Rocky Aoki. Shiro actually had a gasho farmhouse taken from Japan, disassembled, and reassembled in Central Valley. He also did this for the Gasho location that used to be in Hawthorn, NY (which is now called Hida - interesting since Hida Japan is where the gasho farmhouse for the Hawthorn/Elmsford location came from). The chain had a lot of locations, including 2 in Denver, Colorado, and now only has one in Hauppauge, out on Long Island.
I'm such a dork.
This is such a cool nugget of information, I love this
Good old Dirt Skervis NY went to BOCES with a kid from there, I grew up a little ways away in Harriman which has its own little train station.
They actually did it I can’t believe it
I took a somewhat similar trip with my dad from the North Jersey Coast Line to Absecon a few years ago. Certainly won’t be doing that again, lol.
Love these guys!! Looks like they’d be fun to travel with. Great video content.
Thanks!
Great vid gents! A lot of fun! Come on down here to Florida for a Brightline ride!
The River Line train reminds me of the Deutsche Bahn train I took between Offenburg and Strausburg
As Jeremy says, "very European"!
@@MilesinTransit probably should have added “does”
You guys seem like so much fun. I live in New York and I've always wondered about the Port Jervis MTA/NJ Transit line.
It's well worth a ride!
I live near Port Jervis on the PA side, I can’t think of a situation where taking the train to NYC is more practical than driving. It takes forever, the schedule is not practical, etc
This was really good content, you both were great. Shout-out to the NYC Subway map T-shirt.
Thank you!
aww nice you were in burlington towne center, i live there lmao. i really love the riverline, i wish we had more lines like it in south jersey
Every town needs a River LINE!
You guys are priceless.
Fascinating that Port Jervis is literally 5 minutes from Pennsylvania
Thank you for the entertaining video after stumbling across your channel :)
Thank you for watching!
What a fun video
I love watching these video's knowing that I live in a country with one of the best public transport in the wold.
this was such a fun watch
Such wholesome content.
just discovered your channel, loving you all nerds
Thank you!!
Having just experienced the Trenton Transit Center for the first time earlier this year, I second your sour face lol.
very fun video! in early 2023, I relocated from the West Coast to Northern NJ, right off the Pascack Valley Line of NJ Transit.
This was fun. Cracked up at that pay phone.
i live near lindenwold station in NJ, and this kinda shit is why i drive to a station near nyc and train in instead of train all the way up there lmao
100% there needs a connection direct from AC to NYC, it's absurd to me there isn't one
I watched this again , after a year, and enjoyed it this time.
I'm glad
Love the river line discovered it by accident last month. So easy to get off at 1 of the towns and chill
The River LINE is a treasure!
happy to see some nj transit content 🥲
Now that GO Transit has one weekday roundtrip on the Kitchener Line extended to London, I wonder if that one now qualifies for longest single commuter run in North America by both distance AND time.
The running time for the train between London and Toronto is 4 hours and 10 minutes.
The VIA Rail train on that same route takes 3 hours and 45 minutes (of course, less stops east of Guelph).
In 2007 when I rode VIA Rail on that route, the run time for VIA was about 50 minutes faster at just a hair under 3 hours.
Apparently, the track conditions on the line between Kitchener and London were allowed to deteriorate badly under the GEXR. CN took back control of the line in 2021, but a lot of work is needed to bring the line up to speed again. There are many 30mph or less speed restrictions and segments, and a number of crossings require flagging due to improperly operating crossing protection.
On another note, nice to meet you on the first Wawa trip in Philly! Just subbed to your channel, too.
Plus couldn't you theoretically connect to another GO service from Union Station and go even further on a connecting trip? Might be worth looking into, hmm...
And it was great to meet you too, thanks for checking out the channel!
@@MilesinTransit Indeed, yes. By the time that train gets into Toronto Union, you could connect to end up at Oshawa, West Harbour, Barrie, or.... crap, I forget where the midday Stoufville trains terminate; they don't go full route...
Interesting and fun!!! Thank you!!!!!
Thanks!
There's another commuter rail trip which is longer in a straight line: Newark DE to Montauk NY. It's 356 km in a straight line, vs 223 km for Port Jervis NY to Atlantic City NJ.
The fastest possible trip from Newark to Montauk is if you leave Newark at 16:04 - it would take 7h42 but involve a bunch of tight transfers.
The next fastest would be to leave Newark at 5:56, which would take 8h19.
But the most fun is probably to leave Newark at 9:04 on a Friday and take the LIRR Cannonball Express direct from Penn Station to Montauk, arriving there at 18:38. I've always wanted to ride that train, it's crazy how far it goes without stopping.
Our rule was using one ticket only! Isn't there one in the LA area that's longer?
@@MilesinTransit Yeah but if you get rid of the one ticket rule it opens up the option of shooting down Long Island on the Cannonball run!
The longest rail transit trip in Cali (excluding Amtrak) is East Ventura to San Ysidro, but it's only 277km in a straight line.
oh dude, I love this!
Thanks!
If there is not a restaurant in Ramsey called Gordon's, somebody is seriously missing an opportunity. It doesn't even have to be good, as long as the chefs yell obscenities at each other it would probably do quite well.
I love trains and would totally take this trip, but 7.5 hours to go 223 miles is brutal for anyone other than those who love trains or don't have a car. 223 miles is like a 3.5-4 car trip going 70-80 miles/hr. Great video though guys keep up the fun trips and videos!
Thank you!
You guys should try to the relatively new combo tickets on lirr and metro north. You could go from Montauk (115 miles) to Waterbury (88 miles) on one ticket
I really want to do that!
Grew up right near port was nice to see
Jeremey's smile is just the best
You nerds are the best. Great content!
Thank you so much!
NJ Transit is interesting. I'm guessing it's the only statewide transit agency in the US, and while service is not up to snuff to European or Asian standards, it's still a very good system by US standards, and integrated which is very important.
There are a few other statewide agencies but NJT is by far the biggest and most robust!
I like the content of this video. That's so interesting.😀👍👍
Thank you!
@@MilesinTransit You are welcome.🙏🙌🙌🙏
9:25 made me spit my coffee out, jesus christ that was funny as fuck , as a college commuter who has to take he train to trenton transit center everyweekend, , i felt what you said on a personal level. Trenton transit Center really is the shining pearl of the northeast corridor. LOL
river line is probably the most unique commuter rail/light rail line in north america, if not the world
wow such a cool video
Love this! Such a wild ride! Keep up the great work! Love the collabs!
Thank you!
Awesome MTA tshirt! Definitely have one back home 🤘🏼
Here's the other thing with Port Jervis Comet Vs they can also appear on Raritan Valley and Atlantic City Lines. GP40-2 must terminate at Newark Penn Station on RVL Trips since ALP-45DP can run to NY Penn Station by running electric at Newark Penn Station both ways. NY Penn Station doesn't allow diesel locomotives. ALP-45DP 4535 and up can run Atlantic city Line
Random singular bike rack. The trip that keeps on giving...
Nice!
NS owns the line it’s called the southern tier it goes all the way to Binghamton. Metro north leases the line from NS they take care of all the stations MOW and PTC on the PJL section of the southern tier and metro north pays NJTRANSIT to run passenger service along the line. Also Harmon cove station is further into Croxton yard which is still there and still owned by NS as well but they built HX interlocking and now bypass the yard Via Secaucus junction
OMG Miles, I reacted the same way you did when I saw that Intrastate ticket pop out! RIVER LINE, WTF??? I did not see that coming, either!!!! I seriously thought the second ticket would have been a SEPTA one from Trenton to 30th Street....
Us too!!
@@MilesinTransit I still have to ride the Suffern-Port Jervis leg of the line. Missed a chance at the RDC shuttle years ago, thanks to a fail enroute on PATH.
If there's possible FRA-regulated freight service along the tracks, it counts as commuter rail in my book.
That's fair! Point in River LINE's favor then!
New Jersey and you, puhfect togather!
lol i was going to make a comment about river line based on the beginning then mid-comment you guys had the riverine revelation LOL. Anyway, grew up on the Northeast Corridor line of NJT
2:25 - A fascinating Wikipedia rabbit hole you say?
*Rolls up sleeves*