The Federation Fleet Analysis (Starfleet) | Star Trek Ships
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ธ.ค. 2022
- In this video, we will analyze the Federation fleet (Starfleet) overall and their ships. The ships that will be reviewed are the Constitution , Excelsior, Intrepid, Saber, Norway, Miranda, Akira, Defiant, Nebula, and Galaxy class. We will also review and analyze the Starfleet technology as well.
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I would also point out that the Cheyenne, New Orleans, Steamrunner, at least 1 Prometheus, and at least 2 Sovereigns classes were in active service during the Dominion War as well. But still interesting video. Especially all those weird variants like the Yeager.
Starfleet ships are made with versatility in mind over a dedicated purpose (apart from the defiant class & obreth class)
God i love that image or moment from sacrifice of angels. Its arguably one of my favourite moments in all trek . Siskos dialogue just the scale of it . For an organisation called Starfleet only ds9 really gave us fleet action.
Errand of Mercy shows fleet action, too. Such as it could with its budget at least.
The Federation is certainly overall more advanced than other factions...but that's due to the nature of Star Fleet being a coalition of so many species.
But the Starfleet is composed only of Earth vessels. The Vulcans, Andorians, Talarians, Bolians and other Federation members keep their own ships. Notice in Federation campaigns, only tge Earth vessels represent the Federation Starfleet?
To be honest, to see the good ole excelsior class become an integral part of major fleet action all the way to the final battles of the war gives it my upmost respect
Akira class is my favorite
"While enlisted receive specialised training". shows image of O Brien with the 2 pips of a Lieutenant
Interesting back story doe that, at the time of next gen. They didn't have an nco rank badge. O'Brian, was shown with a full pip and half, then later with a black pip.
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This massive Starfleet is why the Federation is a Galactic superpower.
Total active 24th century fleet at a time, possibly equating to 15,000, split into over forty fleets (and not necessarily including some of the transport, medical and science ships, either) and many ships in production for thirty years, in many cases.
@@chrissonofpear1384 lol more like an explorer fleet.
Left out the Steamrunner class which did fight during the Dominion War.
True. Thanks for the update.
The Akira class is my favorite Starfleet ship and it actually carries a large internal hanger deck as well as additional torpedo launchers on the sides of the ship. it's such a cool looking Starship
Agreed. I like the Sabre also, they seem so practical. The Defiant is over powered and has too much plot armor, and the Sovereign class seems too much.
Defiant, Steamrunner, Akira,Sabre, Deadulous, best
Oh the dominion war galaxy class refit is far more powerful and faster than the enterprise d was , she had shields and her speed was 4 times the enterprise and she was armed with quantum torpedoes and a wing of fighters, and i read they were flagships for admirals and had a cic like Battlestar Galactica, the battle bridge but it was updated with a holosuite , behind the bridge, it allowed the admiral to command a battle group or fleet, ( like sherdin in b5 ) with the captain on the main bridge commanding the ship . Like a modern United states naval carrier. And its escort group. They removed the science equivalent and had extra shields or storage spare parts and fuel or torpedoes, and probably room for more shield generators. ? And they were mass produced, in sacrifice of angels sisko mentions galaxy wing 93 and 97 . ( which implies at least 97 galaxy class vessels ny that point) in the fleet. In tng season one their was only 6 and one was destroyed in season one. I read somewhere else Starfleet emergency or war budget the federation like a real world country would spend a minimum of 4 to 10 times the resources and manpower. Like in ww2 the us fleet had a little over 200 ships, 5 years later by the wars end it was a 1000 . Or 8 carries at the start and 20 fleet carriers and around a 100 light carriers. Although the British had sn even bigger fleet. 1200 . Day one of the war they commissioned a 100 new ships , and prepared the ship yards for mass production. And civilian vessels. Supply ships. , British list 5 thousand civilian vessels in the war ( it took ten years to replace them afterwards) .
Read it in a book somewhere about the Dominion War, but Starfleet had a plan before that any conflict, Federation vessels would have all non essential personnel removed and all non essential power needed for the other systems in the ships off, which then could be transferred to offensive and defensive purposes. Sacrifice of Angels was an awesome episode, but I think the terms 'Galaxy Wings 9-1 and 9-3' refers to the various Galaxy class ships within the fleet that were supported by other Federation ships. Kinda like military terminology today...such as Alpha 1-1. Though the episode doesn't show any sort of actual fleet tactics (only ships charging into the Dominion Fleet...which was still cool to watch) having those two wings would suggest that Sisko knew that two Galaxy Wings with it's supporting ships could handle the Cardassian Galor class Destroyers. Think of the Galaxy Wings resembling a US Carrier Strike Fleet with 1 carrier, numerous cruisers, destroyers and frigates.
When the Federation goes full, total war, they are a force to be reckoned with.
That was why the Cardassian commanders knew after a string of tactical victories against the Federation to offer a truce on favorable terms for themselves but one that wasn’t so outrageous that the Federation wouldn’t accept. Basically, they fully realized that what they had fought against were small frontier fleets consisting of second class ships of the Federation space force. Drawing the conflict out any further would have guaranteed their destruction.
@@hisdudeness8328 yes agreed. And the federation will always seek a diplomatic solution, even a slightly unfavourable one , and perhaps unwise. Politically. They held back in the border war and would only commit second rste ships ,
@@DE-rd1zl yes galaxy wing. It refers to a battle group of around 7 ships with a galaxy class as its command vessel.
It may be 9 .1 and 9. 3 . But 91 or 93 makes more sense. I mean why 9 rather than 1 or 3 ? . I believe one of the ships is uss galaxy ( so 1 makes sense) but the venture and magelin ( sorry spelling)the explorer. Actually the galaxy ( galaxy wing ) battle group appears again in star trek nemesis. Its the task force on route to assist enterprise. Its listed on screen. . Either way , its referring to 7 ships. But that fleet is the 2nd and 5th fleet combined. And thier are many other fleets. It makes sense that the galaxy class fleet is spread out among the various fleets. At least 2 to 4 per fleet maybe. And obviously more were produced during the war , in the following 2 years. We see at least 4 galaxy's on screen in that battle. If it was the 9th fleet and 91 stood for ist galaxy in that fleet perhaps but i don't think so . 2 , 1 or 5 . 3 would make sense. ?
Japanese proved that putting your heavy ship all over the place as flagship is a very bad idea in tsuchima straight
I`m sure Defiant was supposed to work in a pack, something like Centauri Vorchan of B5. But then they just made one ship with infinite plot armor when needed.
I read in the dominion war sourse book . Before the war the federation Starfleet had a little over 8 thousand starships before the war ( the largest fleet of the af allies) and by the end they had lost around 4 thousand ships, more than half the fleet, and had a higher casualty rate than the Klingons, they lost more ships but had a smaller crew complement. Although the figures dont count ships built during the war , but they probably had hundreds of ships under construction when the war ended and probably spent the next decade rebuilding, , in Picard Starfleet lost 2 thousand ships in the mars attack.
It's crazy how many ships they lost.
@@UtopianBroadcast1 yes but that last battle the allies had 8 thousand ships. ( a third each ) and they lost a third of them before tjey cardassion switched sides. ( one battle ) i think sisko fleet 400 hundred ships were lost , and in an 6 dp1 97 lost . The fighting around Vulcan 150 ships. That 600 ships in 6 episodes. And the war went on for two years more . The Breen attack on earth 300 ships. ( federation lost ) and when the lost betazed another fleet lost . And another at benzar and hundreds lost liberating them . Or i think the federation lost 200 in the battle with the breen when defiant was destroyed. ( and 112 romulan ships)
Apparently the romulan and Klingon flleet were both around 6500 ships. The Klingons had 1600 by the end and the romulans had about 2 thousand. By the end . ( apparently the breen inflicted massive losses especially that last battle) they was another cool fact . When the cardassion switch side apparently in they destroyed 2 thousand dominion/ breen ship in the opening volleys. And Starfleet and the Klingons couter attacked and for about 24 minutes there was carnage until the retreated. The scale of the war is hard the fathom. Oh the Breen attack on earth. 76 million casualties civilian. ( san Francisco, new York, Paris and Beijing) and the attacked earth weather and earthquake control centre. Caused massive earthquakes and knocked out power on earth for 2 weeks. And hit the federation hq Paris . Apparently betazed invasion, occupation, liberation. 120 million casualties. Something like 500k plus Starfleet personnel. ( escape pods limited casualties)
Where can I find this book you speak of?
@@stuartmcclurey9926 im not sure were you might find it to purchase, its around 20 years old , but i can recommend a series of videos that break down the information contained, and the beta canon ( memory alpha website) probably has yhe same details. If you type in the search ( TH-cam) the katric ark dominion war, a 6 park video series covers the martial. ( each video is about 10 mins long ) the source is probably in the video description of the finale video.
I got it when it came out, but dont have it anymore i just remember the cool details, some of what i said about star fleet at war time , was from the star trek canon fact files , it covered everything from tos to Voyager. ( enterprise hadn't been made yet ) federation at war section.
Apparently according to lore after. The Klingon Empire fared the worse due to apparently losing the majority of its fleet and personal during the conflict. The Romulans fared better and the Cardassian took serious hits especially when they turned on the Dominion.
They need to have a battle saucer section that in need of war ships they trade out the exploration saucer with a battle saucer with loaded with weapons attack fighters and even a small warp core to power everything. Modular hidden and powerful beyond all belief to stop invasions and Borg.
So many people make this small mistake but the intrepid wasn't a long range science vessel it was a long range tactical vessel capable of scientific operations. Voyager talks about that in several episodes through season five six and seven.
I personally love the elegance of the sovereign class which you seem to have left out mate.
The bigger version of the defiant while still showing that saying, speak softly but carry a big stick 😁
Great video my favorite class is the Nebula Class
Favourite Federation Classes
1). Odyssey Class with YorkTown Class and Lexington Class Variants
2) Sovereign Class with Noble Class and Archon Class Variants
3). Venture Class and Cygnus Class which are variants of the Galaxy Class
4). Parliament Class
5). ProtoStar
6). Nova Class
7). Valiant Class variant of Defiant Class
8). Obena Class variant of the Excelsior Class
9). 2009 JJ Enterprise Constitution Class
10). Nimitz Class
The Galaxy class remains my overall favourite of the Federation's designs. I never much cared for the Sovereign.
Just to mention: the akira class has over 15 torpedo launchers, it’s a borg killer, and the first example of a torpedo boat, it’s an absolute monster
You had me with the title.
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I think starfleets strength is there is so many different people drawing on there strengths and overall wanting to do good in the galaxy,there not perfect but there trying to be better. There ships are a little bit of everything and some are more focused on a set skill,they take a samurai approach to there ships. Samurai's where warriors,yet also had skills in medical,art,music,science etc. They are peaceful,yet ready to defend too. Starfleet is alot like that. The galaxy class dominion war variant was my favorite it became what starfleet dreamed it would be. Also the Inquiry class from picard,there have been designs of it with a better defector,secondary hull design and it is awesome.
Just FYI, it’s “they’re” (they are); not “there.” “There” is an indicated location. The way to remember is that they’re sounds like “they-er” instead of “thair.” I hope that mnemonic helps.
P.S., the possessive is “their.” As in “...their ships.”
They’re = they are
There = location
Their = 3rd person plural possessive
@@keirfarnum6811 thank you.
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and informatively explained and executed in every detail way shape and format provided on the various types of Starship's of Starfleet of the United Federation Fleet!, A job very nicely well done indeed Sir!👌.
Ships seen on screen in the war are maranda, ambassador, Akira, saber, excelsior, galaxy, ambassador, intrepid, defiant, Yeager
Centaur as well.
Decent video but you did forget a few vessels in there such as the Centaur, Steam Runner, and Sovereign classes granted there was only a handful of Sovereign classes but I'm pretty sure a few of them took part in certain engagements and just for the record Starfleet vessels from from 2130 to 2370 were multi-purpose vessels and because they were Jacks of all trades master of none was the reason that the Borg wiped the floor with them it was only during 2370 onward that Starfleet were producing tactical vessels like double as science vessels rather than science vessels like a double as tactical vessels
I would say the Intrepid class is my favorite. It has very advanced shields, a really robust hull, is very well armed (on par with a stock Galaxy class) for a ship its size, and is very manuverable. It has very advanced sensors too, again on par with a galaxy class. IMO, it is basically a deep space cruiser...and I don't buy that it is anything other than a medium to heavy cruiser depending on its configuration. It is just too capable and well rounded to be anything else. It essentially is a 24th century Constitution class, fulfilling the same roles as the Connie did in her heyday...deep space exploration and research, and a strong defense role in more dire times. If there were more of them by the time the Dominion war was in full swing, they would have made excellent front line defense ships, especially in groups. But alas there were not that many of them, so likely they were used as deep space recon ships...which is another role they would be great in as they are fast and able to take care of themselves.
There is quite a few more ships out there in Starfleet. Probably enough that you could do a part two to this....would you be so kind as to consider doing a part 2??
Thank you for your time....
Only thing that frustrates me a lot is post wolf 359 they know theres enemies out there and so don't dedicate or create a single fleet for defence or power projection.
Starfleet always seems to cobble ships together
that's the issue with politics, in lore ALOT of those issues are politics. After a while they remember that then when they become the only Super power they become VERY relaxed.
Well, Wolf 359 was the reason behind the creation of the Defiant, Akira, Steamrunner and many other classes and upgrades on other projects like the Sovereign. And yet I agree, it´s frustating that those projects were almost shelved if not for the Dominion war.
@@richardmh1987 that’s the fun of politics and complacency
The dominion fleet. I couldn't find, nor do I remember you doing a video on the dominion fleet.
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Hey, gotta say I love your channel dude. I have an idea for you do the ships from Farscape.
Good breakdown. However, there's one glowing mistake. The Akira is said to have 10-12 type x beam arries. It doesn't have the same number of weapons that a Nebula class has.
Thanks. Where did you find those configurations?
@@UtopianBroadcast1 Yw, unfortunately I cannot remember where I read them at. Sorry.
statistics are a little off, but well presented.
Will you do a video on the fleets of call of duty infinite warfare?
My dude, good video but Akira’s had anywhere from 6 - 15 torpedo launchers. I don’t know if any cannon or beta cannon that has them with anything less than like 6.
I like the Constitution Class variant used in the Dominion War with the nacelles underneath the saucer.
Great video, but weren't Sovereign's used in the Dominion War? Probably not a lot of them, but I am pretty sure the Enterprise E was involved :)
One would assume so, since during that time they were the most powerful and advanced starships but there probably wasn't a ton of them in service during that period.
One thing I always questioned about Starfleet was why did the Federation have more classes of ship than every Faction in Star Trek combined? Wasn't that really inefficient?
How many ships in each era do you think the UFP had in total?
Wish you would have included Quantum Torpedoes cause the Defiant and Akira were the fitst class of ships to use them. Akira in First Contact btw showed it. This makes them more powerful than I think the run down gave theses ship classes credit for.
I'm sure that the Akira only fired photon torpedoes in first contact. It was an SFX decision to have the Enterprise do something special.
@@thegreenmanofnorwich actually it has quantum torps in games like Bridge Commander.
@@kayden3 but you said "Akira in First Contact BTW showed it".
Given that quantum torpedo casings are supposed to be extremely similar to photon torpedo casings, and that it seems like the torpedo and its tech was, rather than the launcher itself, was a new design, there isn't much reason why any ship with a photon torpedo launcher couldn't be armed with quantum torpedoes if a supply were available.
@@thegreenmanofnorwich all I did was add to the information. I don't understand how you're confused.
@@kayden3 I'm not confused; I'm trying to politely tell you that you're mistaken in saying that the Akira fired quantum torpedoes in First Contact.
Anyone ever noticed that the ranges of trek weapons surpass everything else it seems.
Tng cites a range of 300,000 kilometers for phasers and 2.5 million kilometers for photon torpedoes
Actually the Nova class starship is my favorite it looks a lot like a miniature version of The sovereign class it was in Voyager equinox
Where is the Sovereign Class?
What about the sovereign class?
I'm sorry, the Akira class has 2 torpedo launchers... Seriously?
weapons pod: 4 (+3 in the lower part of the pod) forward and at least 2+2 aft facing
there's 1 above the deflector dish (we've seen it firing torpedoes in First Contact)
there are speculation of 2+2 side facing torpedo launchers.
The Akira class is a literal torpedo(artillery) cruiser with a substantial fighter complement.
Not to mention it had more beam arries.
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I have said it one's and l will say it again put me on a nebula class star ship and I will show you how to fight a war
The Akira has side firing torpedo launchers (broadside).
The intrepid class starship is my favorite
Is there a Starfleet Marine Corps?
Yes. MACO; military assault & command operations. They first appeared in season 3 of ST: Enterprise, but never since then. Some might say they were disbanded after the Federation was formed but there's nothing really stating that in canon. I'd think they'd be maintained out sheer pragmatism. There's no organization that's actually labeled "Marines" but the MACO's fill that role basically.
I wonder why the Federation Fleet cinsists only of Earth starships. How come ships from the Vulcans, Andorians, Talarians, Bolians and other Federation members were not with the Earth vessels in Federation campaigns like in the blockade against the Romulans during the Klingon civil war, the Battle of Wolf 359, the Dominion War, the Xindi Incident, etc? If ever there were, it was only a very insignificant number. And how come only a few of them serve in Earth vessels when thw Federation is supposwd to be a unified entity as the USA, UK, Germany, Mexico, Australia, and other federal governments?
There weren't many Constitution class ships left in existence by the mid 24th century.
When it comes to Starfleet Ships I always gotta go with that first true Love. Constitution Class. Not the Fastest or Strongest but a Fav none the less. NO bloody D, C, B or A!
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The akira had more than 2 torpedo launchers
The Entrepit class is my favorite.
What’s the “Entrepit?” Is that French?
@@keirfarnum6811 Must be a typing error. I can't even remember typing it.
@@keirfarnum6811 Should be Entrepid class. Like the Voyager.
Peter David made a great staement in the Vendetta novel. He said "other vessels from other powers only have singular roles, mostly as a weapons payload delivery system, but Starfleet vessels are hyper-engineered to fulfill many roles, and they are designed with alabaster hulls and sweeping beautiful hull configurationsd, almost only because they can
Star fleet need to split it two patrol fleet and battle fleet they fought like turkey in the dominion war .
Uh, you're not allowed to show the Oberth class ship without it exploding at least 6 times in the video.
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If you didn't put the nebula class starship on this list you are wasting your time and even one else's
The federation defense force aint the thing my dude
OMG so many mistakes. Great attempt on just filling in gaps with a unique personal guesses. If you read the novels you could fill in the gaps with some interesting stuff that was fleshed out by the authors.
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The Sabre Class was not built with scavenged parts. Where are you getting your information because it's just wrong. I'm sorry but your information is a joke.
Warships with very large crew complements seem wrong so far in the future. Good for storytelling but makes poor tactical sense.
You have the constitution and excelsior with way too many weapons way too many torpedo tubes seriously
Well the constitution class that's shown in the video is a variant so it has a different configuration to the organial vessel.
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the word older has the letter "L" in it.
you speak like a 12 year old.
Your Defiant weapons lay out is wrong, In cannon it has six torpedo lunchers and 3 type ten phasers, With 4 pulse phasers