NOOOO He's Not. It's probably a Even Swap. Horace offense pretty good NOT Dennis. Horace Defense very good Rodman Great. Grant Rebounds Very Good Rodman Great. Being Quiet is why Horace gets Overlooked.
Whining is not the way you jus have to fight fire with fire and be tougher mentally Michael was the leader and he got beat to a pulp during those years and he finished every game so you jus have to suck it up.
@someoneextra819 u have to understand Detroit would go after Grant and pip and get them in foul trouble and teed up. It must up the flow of the game and got the bulls out of their game.
What?! What are you talking about ? Basketball was it, it's how they were getting paid, it's not just basketball,it was their livelihoods....he was getting on him because he was ruining the team's chemistry with the effin' crying and acting soft like they do a lot of crying in this soft as charmin' era.@@someoneextra819
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm. Their version is a bit crazy and some people will never understand. Or even get close to achieving their level of greatness.
I lived that era in Chicago, Horace was a good player but he was a crybaby at times. MJ was the driving force behind the repeat 3Peats, his will to win drove him, his will to give the fans what they came for also drove him. MJ was tough on all of them and Horace is the only one who hasn’t admitted that they won because of how tough a leader he was. I think he’s also mad because he saw when MJ left they started losing, he couldn’t stand it so he went elsewhere and then MJ came back and they won 3 more, he missed all that because he didn’t want to wait. Boo hoo hoo Horace! 😂
I love Horace and Scottie, and the Bulls wouldn't win anything without them, but it took MJ toughening them up, to make the Bulls champions. You can argue with his methods, but not the results. Everybody got paid, because of Jordan.
Horace got that contract from the Magic because MJ toughened his soft whining @$$ up. Rodman was a better replacement and MJ didn't have to make Rodman tough,he was ready made.
Exactly! If you watched back then, Jordan was the driving force getting them threw that Pistons squad. The man took a beating and kept on coming. He just needed his other key pieces to step up. There were plenty of times he would stand up for his teammates against that Pistons squad.
No. Mike was just a cry baby who cries a lot when things don't go his way. He should be thankful to his great team mates, cause they did all the dirty work just to give Mikey Mikey a space to score. Rodman was the only one he can't punk, cause Rodman beat his a** three times.
@@anthonypimping201Cry baby? Far from it. He is a tough dictator. He rule his team with an iron fist and demand nothing but excellence from his teams. At least he doesn't pout, and blame his teammates at national tv when they're the one that failed him.
The NBA today is a fashion show, back then, this was how we ate and took care of family. But you wanna win, this is tough love, mike knew it, if you don't wanna win, get off my team.
JORDAN is a WINNER. Grant was borderline SOFT. Going for a 6-0 Finals resume, doesNot allow a lot of time to carry players that cant handle the pressure associated with winning.
ABSOLUTELY. MJ was used to a MUCH MUCH tougher Oakley. Horace WAS soft. He wasn’t a banger, an over physical dude. Detroit whooped on him like a redheaded step child n MJ told him to fuckin man up. Btw: LeBitch can’t tell ANY of his teammates to man up cus he can’t lead by example in that category. Be mad all u want I know the truth hurts.
@@SagaTheFunniest He was a threat for 20/10 type numbers on any given night. You don't average 13-15 and 8-10 if you aren't. And his numbers were steadily increasing with Bulls. After he left...
Horace Grant made the all star team and finals without MJ. The Bron MJ thing has gotten sooo wierd. Trying to minimize teammates that were major contributers is wild.
Jordan toughing up all those guys or else they would have never gotten over the pistons as much of how I hate what's going on between them they needed that tough love we all do at times .
That's the problem, they were to pussy to man up. That's why Jordan was getting in their face. Because against the Piston they would start crying and bitching about how ruff the Pistons were playing. It would cause them to fold, and Jordan was trying to light a fire under their asses. Out of their key pieces, Jordan was the only one playing through it while putting up numbers. Like everyone says, though, it takes a team, and even Jordan understood that.
And the fact that Rodman was in his mid-30s when the Bulls got him…that 1998 team is still the oldest roster to ever win an NBA title. Mad props to those teams succeeding when they should’ve been fading away at that point with age.
Legends are legends because they have a will to win that normal people don't. To the rest of us their methods are torture...but to that MONSTER...as long as you win, the method doesn't matter. MJ wanted to win, no matter the cost...and he won. Hate him or love him...he did what he set out to do.
Nope! The Bulls did ' Graet' without Horace Grant. Which proves MJ was right H. Grant was, too soft. He was a crybaby. Look what happened after the bulls got Dennis Rodman! The rest is history.
This is a bit of rewriting history. Jordan didn’t replace Horace. He was a free agent and he left to Orlando for a bigger paycheck and to have more of an offensive impact on a team. He did just that. I believe he earned his first and maybe only all-star appearance as a magic PF. Also Jordan was in his first retirement. When MJ came back, the Magic beat the Bulls the first matchup. Jordan got back into basketball shape the following season, Dennis then signed up with the Bulls and a new 3-peat came to be
Nope he made an all star team the last year he played for the Bulls!Horace turned out to be a clown just like Scottie!Sad for me to say because I’m a die hard Bulls fan since 1985 so I seen both entire careers when they were drafted out of Central Arkansas and Clemson in 87!
Now that the Bulls dynasty is over, leaks from Scottie, Luc and Horace are just sad. They are champions, and none of that would’ve happened without MJ on the team. Yes, tough love sucks but Phil & Mike got the best out of everyone on those championship teams.
Can't enjoy it because everyone only credits MJ. They forget they made the ECF without MJ. I literally was arguing with a MJ ball licker at work. He said that "that man did it all by himself" "Pippen couldn't win without him" 😂 MJ effect on the game is a individual, selfish, ball hogging mentality. It worked for him and that team but it created a bunch of wannabes that couldn't pull it off. Don't believe stars do that? My God daughter loves Steph Curry, crosses half court and starts jacking 3's smh like 20per game.
Well they drafted Pippen, who took a few years to develop…and MJ played a big part in that. Pippen was raw and didn’t contribute very much his first few seasons. Rodman didn’t join the Bulls until his mid-30s, long after his DPOY awards, 2x all star appearances, and only made 1st-team all defense the first title season, not the other 2 titles of the 2nd 3-peat.
This video doesn’t mention that when Horace got traded to the magic his first year with the magic they beat the bulls in the playoffs then the next season the bulls beat the magic . Horace did get his payback although it was just for one season but he did .
Horace is underrated the Bulls don't win those first 3 chips without him. Rodman was probably the only guy during that time that could replace him as a good fit.
Michael Jordan is a highly functioning psychopath. At the highest levels of sport, politics, business you will find plenty of psychopaths. These people are extremely intelligent hardworking and goal oriented people who have found a way to use their character “defect” in a positive way. Michael is very narcissistic. Very smart. If you don’t agree with him you are his enemy which is another common proclivity of psychopathic behavior. This is in my eyes a major factor for his extreme success not only in basketball but his life.
MJ had to do what he needed to do to win and if they couldn't handle his attitude on the team then that's on them not MJ. MJ was about winning not being a average player in the court. I would think Scottie should have known that out of all people but he want to be salty like Horace.
Jordan helped Horace get 3 titles. It’s the 90s. Your a grown ass man Horace. You don’t like the way someone is treating you then stand up for yourself
Sometimes that what another ball player need to do is to let your teammates to do & it work Horace Grant game got stuff but it wasn't nothing but stuff love I remember on the play ground other ball player told each other especially the real good players
Evidently, Horace Grant was too soft, like MJ said. It sounds like Grant was jealous of MJ! He was a crybaby because he didn't want to accept the fact that MJ was the man.
@@SpursOn3 I got u....Z Bo, Kobe, Sheed, GP.... thinking. .......Ron Artest, Reggie Miller..... the list goes on. They all spoke up to their teammates
Hmmmm.....wait a minute Horace Grant was an upgrade from Charles Oakley. He was younger, faster, had better footwork around the basketball along with a better jump shot. Horace Grant didn't take shit from Detroit or the New York Knicks. There's footage of Horace smacking Xavier McDaniels with the left and McDaniels backed down.
Jordan lost to Horace and Shaq that's y they had to get rodman! Without that key piece, jordan didn't win! A good rebounder! He helped jordan get his first 3! He also grabbed another with Phil on Lakers in 01!
How can you be a snitch if you're also telling a damn lie. I never trusted Horace Grant I always thought he was somewhat of a clown and it sounds exactly like something Horace would do He is a BAN.
You left out the part where Horace and the Magic beat Jordan and the bulls in 95, with Horace hitting a game winner in clutch time and being hoisted on the teams shoulders in Jordan’s house...
You left out the part where Jordan was fresh out of retirement having only played the last 17 games of that regular season. You’re trying so hard to discredit the man. It’s both incredibly sad and disingenuous. Context matters, buddy
Can't expect today's soft ass, political society to understand. If it hurt a grown ass man so bad then why didn't he walk away from it all instead of enduring the so-called torture? It was all a choice so fuck all that crybaby victim shit period. Grant is relevant because of Michael, not the Magic. Fym
You left mad info out of this intentionally to fit a narrative 😂 I hate this generation with a passion You know people who were alive snd aware for these events are still alive today right?
Mike never retaliated when the Pistons was beating his ass, he didn't want that smoke with real goons, but he was a beast to rookies and players like Steve Kerr
he did get in the face of Bill Cartwright as he did to all of his teammates they were treated equally because jordan want them to be better to play better it's called tough love and they understand that it's not personal, and bill has nothing but respect for jordan. something that Horace didn't have respect for bulls team/organization and jordan. F*** Horace grant
Michael Jordan doesn't win anything without Horace Grant and Scottie pippen so let's make that clear Michael Jordan was whining complaining because of bad boys were whooping his tail so he needs to stop talking about coming up Michael Jordan had to tell himself up if it wasn't for the all the other people around Michael Jordan helping Michael Jordan wouldn't want anything so let's stop talking about Michael Jordan do this and Michael Jordan did that if it what Horace Grant was a steady Force Horace Grant did when he was supposed to do okay Michael Jordan wasn't he wasn't playing bully ball Michael Jordan complaining to the refs a lot then that toughening up Michael Jordan needs to stop talking about everybody else and talk about what he didn't do because everybody Michael Jordan guard the hardest person Michael Jordan wasn't getting all the freaking rebound Scotty Pippin and Horace Grant and Luke longley all those guys will contribute all I'm contribute BJ Armstrong Steve Kerr Patton gear don't forget about the snipers that help Michael Jordan it wasn't about Michael Jordan it was about to freaking team but everything this is why I can't stand Michael Jordan I saw people always do Jordan was losing every freaking year to the bulls he never beat Larry Bird ever in the playoffs so what does that tell you
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Rodman was a SIGNIFICANT upgrade from Horace
Not really. Grant was a much better offensive player. Rodman was a better rebounder and defender.
@@nocturne311exactly
@nocturne311 that's the upgrade the bulls need
Like Jordan....Dennis did whatever it took to win...by mind f*****g his opponents to go along with his rebounding and defense.
NOOOO He's Not. It's probably a Even Swap. Horace offense pretty good NOT Dennis. Horace Defense very good Rodman Great. Grant Rebounds Very Good Rodman Great. Being Quiet is why Horace gets Overlooked.
Horace better be thankful and quiet…..
or maybe everybody not a suck up ....... he's talking to another grown man like a child sometimes basketball is not always it
Whining is not the way you jus have to fight fire with fire and be tougher mentally Michael was the leader and he got beat to a pulp during those years and he finished every game so you jus have to suck it up.
@someoneextra819 u have to understand Detroit would go after Grant and pip and get them in foul trouble and teed up. It must up the flow of the game and got the bulls out of their game.
What?! What are you talking about ? Basketball was it, it's how they were getting paid, it's not just basketball,it was their livelihoods....he was getting on him because he was ruining the team's chemistry with the effin' crying and acting soft like they do a lot of crying in this soft as charmin' era.@@someoneextra819
Horace should've been grateful because he wouldn't have 3 rings if MJ hadn't toughened his soft crying @$$ up.
Jordan had a bit of Bobby Knight in him. Everybody loved the domination but want to criticize the manner in which it was provided.
FACTS
Jordan was the Jimmy Johnson of the NBA.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm. Their version is a bit crazy and some people will never understand. Or even get close to achieving their level of greatness.
I lived that era in Chicago, Horace was a good player but he was a crybaby at times. MJ was the driving force behind the repeat 3Peats, his will to win drove him, his will to give the fans what they came for also drove him. MJ was tough on all of them and Horace is the only one who hasn’t admitted that they won because of how tough a leader he was. I think he’s also mad because he saw when MJ left they started losing, he couldn’t stand it so he went elsewhere and then MJ came back and they won 3 more, he missed all that because he didn’t want to wait. Boo hoo hoo Horace! 😂
MJ good side of that he will motivated you coz he wants to win we all do that in different aspects of life we are not clean
BJ Armstrong did confirm on multiple occasions that it was Horace. In The Last Dance, he was more political w his answer.
I love Horace and Scottie, and the Bulls wouldn't win anything without them, but it took MJ toughening them up, to make the Bulls champions. You can argue with his methods, but not the results. Everybody got paid, because of Jordan.
Horace got that contract from the Magic because MJ toughened his soft whining @$$ up. Rodman was a better replacement and MJ didn't have to make Rodman tough,he was ready made.
Growing up in the the bulls / Jordan era, I always loved HG!! Besides MJ, SP, Grant was amongst my favs, and obviously Rodman
Casuals don’t understand that Mike made them all better. Scottie Horace BJ Armstrong Paxton all of them
Exactly! If you watched back then, Jordan was the driving force getting them threw that Pistons squad. The man took a beating and kept on coming. He just needed his other key pieces to step up. There were plenty of times he would stand up for his teammates against that Pistons squad.
Asi mismo...absolutamente cierto.
No. Mike was just a cry baby who cries a lot when things don't go his way. He should be thankful to his great team mates, cause they did all the dirty work just to give Mikey Mikey a space to score. Rodman was the only one he can't punk, cause Rodman beat his a** three times.
@@anthonypimping201Cry baby? Far from it. He is a tough dictator. He rule his team with an iron fist and demand nothing but excellence from his teams. At least he doesn't pout, and blame his teammates at national tv when they're the one that failed him.
The NBA today is a fashion show, back then, this was how we ate and took care of family. But you wanna win, this is tough love, mike knew it, if you don't wanna win, get off my team.
JORDAN is a WINNER.
Grant was borderline SOFT.
Going for a 6-0 Finals resume, doesNot allow a lot of time to carry players that cant handle the pressure associated with winning.
Imagine calling a nba player like him soft smh its always not athletes talking
Yeah Pippen was 6-0 too
@@MrMex44He was timid when he came into the league and MJ toughened him up ,too.
Mj loved Oak who was his enforcer, he missed him instead of Horace... That's an extra why Jordan was more pissed off
ABSOLUTELY. MJ was used to a MUCH MUCH tougher Oakley. Horace WAS soft. He wasn’t a banger, an over physical dude. Detroit whooped on him like a redheaded step child n MJ told him to fuckin man up.
Btw: LeBitch can’t tell ANY of his teammates to man up cus he can’t lead by example in that category. Be mad all u want I know the truth hurts.
I agree ,once Oakley was gone ,MJ didn't have anyone to back him up and Oakley is a good friend,too.
@@Jimmy-ik2kc for sure, but that's part of the hate towards Grant, he wanted OAK NOT Horace
@@patrik32 That wasn't hate ,he knew Oakley wasn't soft and would have his back unlike Grant with his whining self.
Stop!!! mj could have kept Oakley smdh. Y'all kill me
Anybody forgets that Horace beat Michael in the playoffs when he came back with the 45 he was on the magic
Did he win the series?
I didn't....because my Rockets went on to sweep the Magic in the Finals. 😄
@@King_Mik3 Yes, just not the Title.
@@ericmausbach1808 Yes Indeed.
True but he still didn't get another ring
Horace fell off as soon as he left MJ and the Bulls
How? When he joined 2 more all nba teams and won another ring
@@SagaTheFunniest And yet he was never close to contributing 20/10 regularly
He was mediocre on a championship team.
@@unnaturalselection8330 he was never a 20/10 guy tf are u on about
@@SagaTheFunniest He was a threat for 20/10 type numbers on any given night. You don't average 13-15 and 8-10 if you aren't. And his numbers were steadily increasing with Bulls.
After he left...
The only reason any of us know who Horace Grant is, is cause of Jordan.
And the Goggles 😅
Horace Grant made the all star team and finals without MJ. The Bron MJ thing has gotten sooo wierd. Trying to minimize teammates that were major contributers is wild.
Yea with shaq and penny and then got swept and didn’t make anything after that
With Shaq and Penny…not to mention Nick Anderson and Dennis Scott. That Magic squad was loaded.
@@NostalgikOne didn’t they get swept in the finals and then the bulls the next season ?
Jordan toughing up all those guys or else they would have never gotten over the pistons as much of how I hate what's going on between them they needed that tough love we all do at times .
Times were tough back then. The physicalness was at it's apex, so MJ was right, you have to be tough and strong, physically and mentally to win..
None of that is true
Grant was soft
No one would know who Horace Grant is today if not for MJ.
I wouldn't let another grown man tell me I couldn't eat he can take his championships and we can go outside in the back. tffff
That's the problem, they were to pussy to man up. That's why Jordan was getting in their face. Because against the Piston they would start crying and bitching about how ruff the Pistons were playing. It would cause them to fold, and Jordan was trying to light a fire under their asses. Out of their key pieces, Jordan was the only one playing through it while putting up numbers. Like everyone says, though, it takes a team, and even Jordan understood that.
Didn’t MJ complain to David Stern about the Pistons style of play ?
@@man4522nope
Facts
Let the 2nd 3feat talking. You need to play extreme so you can reach ur goal. Rodman did what Jordan wants and succeed 3 consecutive season champ
And the fact that Rodman was in his mid-30s when the Bulls got him…that 1998 team is still the oldest roster to ever win an NBA title. Mad props to those teams succeeding when they should’ve been fading away at that point with age.
@@NostalgikOnethey were true professionals.
Horace got 3 rings w the bulls too though 🤷🏽♂️
Legends are legends because they have a will to win that normal people don't. To the rest of us their methods are torture...but to that MONSTER...as long as you win, the method doesn't matter. MJ wanted to win, no matter the cost...and he won. Hate him or love him...he did what he set out to do.
Just imagine if they had rodman and grant..
Nope! The Bulls did ' Graet' without Horace Grant. Which proves MJ was right H. Grant was, too soft. He was a crybaby. Look what happened after the bulls got Dennis Rodman! The rest is history.
This is a bit of rewriting history. Jordan didn’t replace Horace. He was a free agent and he left to Orlando for a bigger paycheck and to have more of an offensive impact on a team. He did just that. I believe he earned his first and maybe only all-star appearance as a magic PF.
Also Jordan was in his first retirement. When MJ came back, the Magic beat the Bulls the first matchup. Jordan got back into basketball shape the following season, Dennis then signed up with the Bulls and a new
3-peat came to be
Nope he made an all star team the last year he played for the Bulls!Horace turned out to be a clown just like Scottie!Sad for me to say because I’m a die hard Bulls fan since 1985 so I seen both entire careers when they were drafted out of Central Arkansas and Clemson in 87!
he could have had 6 rings.
He got 4 though
Horace Grant up there looking like Donell Rawlings
Now that the Bulls dynasty is over, leaks from Scottie, Luc and Horace are just sad. They are champions, and none of that would’ve happened without MJ on the team. Yes, tough love sucks but Phil & Mike got the best out of everyone on those championship teams.
Can't enjoy it because everyone only credits MJ. They forget they made the ECF without MJ. I literally was arguing with a MJ ball licker at work. He said that "that man did it all by himself" "Pippen couldn't win without him" 😂 MJ effect on the game is a individual, selfish, ball hogging mentality. It worked for him and that team but it created a bunch of wannabes that couldn't pull it off. Don't believe stars do that? My God daughter loves Steph Curry, crosses half court and starts jacking 3's smh like 20per game.
Grant crying like a lil B. Man move the F on
👎
Them getting rodman and Scottie Pippin gave Mike the extra talent on the team.
Well they drafted Pippen, who took a few years to develop…and MJ played a big part in that. Pippen was raw and didn’t contribute very much his first few seasons.
Rodman didn’t join the Bulls until his mid-30s, long after his DPOY awards, 2x all star appearances, and only made 1st-team all defense the first title season, not the other 2 titles of the 2nd 3-peat.
This video doesn’t mention that when Horace got traded to the magic his first year with the magic they beat the bulls in the playoffs then the next season the bulls beat the magic . Horace did get his payback although it was just for one season but he did .
Never heard of this guy.
Do y'all still think LBJ could flourish in MJ's era?😂😂😂
Easily😂
He will be a little better than Dan Majerlie
Nonsense@@wearehumans1693
What does this have to do with LBJ?
Yall act like jordan didn't get his asswhooped until they built a team around him. Hrs thr goat but yall deep throat that dude for being an asshole.
Horace Grant is to Michael Jordan as Dwight Howard is to Kobe Bryant. Grant and Howard have same similarity- both are SOFT😅😅😅
Lucky LeBron wasn't teammates with MJ (with all the whining he does) MJ woulda made him cry.
I don’t hear Horace bitchin about the 3 rings lol js 😊
Michael Jordan’s Never 😠 teammate Shoots Down 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿🐐🐐🐐
Horace did alright afterwards...he won a ring with the Lakers.
How much did he play, im a Laker fan i can't even remember Horace playing with the Lakers🤦🏻♂️
Man I forgot he was even on that team...
Ahead of A.C Green
Knock it off....
True Bus rider
Sat in the Back of the Bus on that Championship ride🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
HG was an after thought by that time....he rode Kobe and Shaq coat tails to get that ring.
The only thing I got out of this I didn't already know, is that I had no clue what Horace grant looks like today😯
Whoever held up that sign saying "Jordan never won a ring without Horace"...... must've not watched the 96'...97'....&... 98' NBA Finals
Just FYI, Dennis Rodman is in the Hall of Fame. Hardly, even 🧐. 5 rings 🤷🏿
Horace is underrated the Bulls don't win those first 3 chips without him. Rodman was probably the only guy during that time that could replace him as a good fit.
I agree
He made it to the all star game when Jordan left
So you guys are saying because mj didn't sniff a championship for a decade of his career, that's what really makes him GREAT, stop the BS!!
Michael Jordan is a highly functioning psychopath. At the highest levels of sport, politics, business you will find plenty of psychopaths. These people are extremely intelligent hardworking and goal oriented people who have found a way to use their character “defect” in a positive way. Michael is very narcissistic. Very smart. If you don’t agree with him you are his enemy which is another common proclivity of psychopathic behavior. This is in my eyes a major factor for his extreme success not only in basketball but his life.
That's a champion.....
MJ had to do what he needed to do to win and if they couldn't handle his attitude on the team then that's on them not MJ. MJ was about winning not being a average player in the court. I would think Scottie should have known that out of all people but he want to be salty like Horace.
We'll Mike, people could always fall on hard time's (word's can kill bro look out you've dug your grave !!!
Jordan helped Horace get 3 titles. It’s the 90s. Your a grown ass man Horace. You don’t like the way someone is treating you then stand up for yourself
You obviously intended to OMIT that Horace Grant with the Magic beat the Bulls with MJ in their first series against each other
Leave Horace alone .
Not taking away any of Jordan's greatness, but actually, the Bulls were winners without Jordan as well. This clip is edited 🦬💩.
What have they won before and/or after Jordan?
Horace could've had more rings but...
Grant was a whiny little crybaby. Cause Jordan was too hard on him lol. That's why he's been running his mouth as of late like Pippen has
I’m glad I brought Wemby’s jersey 😌
You conveniently left out that Horace and the Magic beat the Bulls in the 95 playoffs
I don't know who was soft but the NBA changed the rules
Sometimes that what another ball player need to do is to let your teammates to do & it work Horace Grant game got stuff but it wasn't nothing but stuff love I remember on the play ground other ball player told each other especially the real good players
Horace leaked information 😂😂😂 you can look in his eyes and see it
Evidently, Horace Grant was too soft, like MJ said. It sounds like Grant was jealous of MJ! He was a crybaby because he didn't want to accept the fact that MJ was the man.
If u dont like.how mike talked to.his teammates you never played basketball smh or street ball yawl new generation just soft 😂
You only saying this Because it's Jordan
@@dirtydeadz ok kid 😂
@@SpursOn3 kid??? You kok swallowers getting disrespectful now I see
@@SpursOn3 I got u....Z Bo, Kobe, Sheed, GP.... thinking. .......Ron Artest, Reggie Miller..... the list goes on. They all spoke up to their teammates
Horace Grant didn't write a seven paragraph essay bitching and moaning about the Pistons calling them bad for basketball.
What do people not get about becoming tough enough to step up to a challenge?
If you're not up to it... MOVE!
LeBron needs that mentality for another ring…
Hmmmm.....wait a minute
Horace Grant was an upgrade from Charles Oakley. He was younger, faster, had better footwork around the basketball along with a better jump shot.
Horace Grant didn't take shit from Detroit or the New York Knicks. There's footage of Horace smacking Xavier McDaniels with the left and McDaniels backed down.
Half truths Horace Orlando Magics beat the Bulls, then Jordan beg for Dennis Rodman, then Horace Grant was hurt playing the Bulls
You right! We ain't on the same side you are the enemy!!!!!
Jordan the best lol
those who snitches the snitcher, get a snitch-pass
😂😂😂 Facts
When it comes to basketball i am horace grants father. He comes to me for advices
These guys didn't realize how much they needed Jordan to push them. Bcus once they left the Bulls, they stopped winning.
horace joined shaq after and won 3
Horace won a championship without Jordan.
Actually it was probably Phil Jackson that leaked a lot of that stuff to Sam Smith for The Jordan Rules. He was always coaching through the media.
4 championships is a good career
And Jordan DIDNT SHAKE GRANT HAND AFTER LOSING TO ORLANDO
Jordan lost to Horace and Shaq that's y they had to get rodman! Without that key piece, jordan didn't win! A good rebounder! He helped jordan get his first 3! He also grabbed another with Phil on Lakers in 01!
I'm glad he wasn't a suck up and moved on sometimes your pride is better than some basketball game
I wouldn't let another grown man tell me I couldn't eat he can take his championships and we can go outside in the back. tffff
Without horus how many rings he got?? Mj dont need horus that much.. 6 times mvp/ champs tells it all
being soft 😂 soft like Jordan crying to the NBA about the pistons beating his as$ 😅
Wasn't it Jordan that did a full page interview complaining that the Pistons were trying to hurt him...?
Didn't they have the Jordan rules and didn't Dennis Rodman insinuate that they couldn't let MJ take off in the air
Was that information private discussions among the team or was that obvious?🤷🏽
@@TheGreatestCreatorTruiil-lp7njthat was Thomas
Bulls replaced Grant with Rodman 😂.
Grant left and beat the Bulls at the Magic before the Bulls even signed Grant.
Get the facts right.
Grant naka laban din yan ni mj sa bulls vs magic
His enemy on the basketball court not in general
Only a winner can understand MJs winning personality ❤❤❤.
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You're great, you're playing well. but if you're not playing on MJ's level. You ain't gonna win championship.
How can you be a snitch if you're also telling a damn lie. I never trusted Horace Grant I always thought he was somewhat of a clown and it sounds exactly like something Horace would do He is a BAN.
You left out the part where Horace and the Magic beat Jordan and the bulls in 95, with Horace hitting a game winner in clutch time and being hoisted on the teams shoulders in Jordan’s house...
Horace never hit a game winner lol
😆 Horace and the rest of the Magic lost the 95 NBA Finals though ✅❗
Plus, I believe Jordan came back in the middle of the year, wasn’t a full season with the team
You left out the part where Jordan was fresh out of retirement having only played the last 17 games of that regular season. You’re trying so hard to discredit the man. It’s both incredibly sad and disingenuous. Context matters, buddy
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17 games (13-4) in '95 season
Will he still whining till this day. So I don't think Mike was wrong
Can't expect today's soft ass, political society to understand. If it hurt a grown ass man so bad then why didn't he walk away from it all instead of enduring the so-called torture? It was all a choice so fuck all that crybaby victim shit period. Grant is relevant because of Michael, not the Magic. Fym
Imagine the privilege of playing with the GOAT and winning 3 in a row and still bitching about it 🤔
Same as kobe say to howard soft
😂😂😂😂😂😂mf why u didn't say that grant and magic beat Jordan first then Jordan had to get Dennis Rodman because they needed more rebounds
🤨 So you never complained to your mama, teacher, coach, etc. because somebody unfairly mistreated you❓😏 Stop 🛑 it.
Yea Grant was an idiot and did play to soft under the goal
That's why horace was thrown out from the team he was dammmmmmmn snitch😅😅😅
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You left mad info out of this intentionally to fit a narrative 😂
I hate this generation with a passion
You know people who were alive snd aware for these events are still alive today right?
Mike never retaliated when the Pistons was beating his ass, he didn't want that smoke with real goons, but he was a beast to rookies and players like Steve Kerr
I'll bet that Jordan wouldn't get in the face of Bill Cartwright, like he did Horace.
Bill warned Jordan not to DISRESPECT HIM!!
he did get in the face of Bill Cartwright as he did to all of his teammates they were treated equally because jordan want them to be better to play better it's called tough love and they understand that it's not personal, and bill has nothing but respect for jordan. something that Horace didn't have respect for bulls team/organization and jordan. F*** Horace grant
Cartwright told Jordan if he disrespects him again, Jordan will never play basketball again
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I BELIEVE THAT!!!!!!
Michael Jordan doesn't win anything without Horace Grant and Scottie pippen so let's make that clear Michael Jordan was whining complaining because of bad boys were whooping his tail so he needs to stop talking about coming up Michael Jordan had to tell himself up if it wasn't for the all the other people around Michael Jordan helping Michael Jordan wouldn't want anything so let's stop talking about Michael Jordan do this and Michael Jordan did that if it what Horace Grant was a steady Force Horace Grant did when he was supposed to do okay Michael Jordan wasn't he wasn't playing bully ball Michael Jordan complaining to the refs a lot then that toughening up Michael Jordan needs to stop talking about everybody else and talk about what he didn't do because everybody Michael Jordan guard the hardest person Michael Jordan wasn't getting all the freaking rebound Scotty Pippin and Horace Grant and Luke longley all those guys will contribute all I'm contribute BJ Armstrong Steve Kerr Patton gear don't forget about the snipers that help Michael Jordan it wasn't about Michael Jordan it was about to freaking team but everything this is why I can't stand Michael Jordan I saw people always do Jordan was losing every freaking year to the bulls he never beat Larry Bird ever in the playoffs so what does that tell you
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Bulls would not have won the 2nd 3Peat with Horace instead of Dennis.