I recently picked up the same switcher in the slightly smaller 8x8 w/audio. Swapped it in to replace an old Phillips component switcher where the outputs were daisy chained via my PVM and split out to another CRT. The Extron is so much better, and no signal noise introduced by either the old auto switcher, or cheap passive switchers is great. I've not tried any of my systems with SCART as I started putting together my current setup after HD Retrovision cables became available. Being able to easily switch any of my systems to my PVM, consumer Trinitron, or OSSC as needed is fantastic!
Yeah it's quite amazing, myself I still use a generic "3-position SCART transfer switch" (really just a plain dumb metal box with a rotary knob to switch inputs, all it says on the front is "DATA TRANSFER SWITCH" nothing more... I got this for 2€ at a garage sale ages ago, the seller didn't know what it was for) so far I have not yet noticed noise or crosstalk (we'll see once I receive my 9" PVM probably a 9045qm or a 9042qm), personally I'll limit myself to two CRTs, so I don't need a big Crosspoint..
Found an 8x4 Crosspoint at Goodwill a year and a half ago. $30. Since then I have spend hundreds tooling up to make custom console cables for the thing... got 1,000 feet of their MHR cable and 350 BNC ends. Ordered the crimp tool but the seller didn’t come through so now I’m sitting on all this! Oh well. In the mean time I have been repurposing 10PINCOMPON cables from DirecTV boxes to make component cables for UltraHDMI HW2+DAC and N64Digital. Also for PS2/3, original XBOX, Wii, etc. I have well over 100 of these! GO BIG OR GO HOME! ...while ignoring the diminutive size of my 8x4 Extron Crosspoint switch. ;)
@@Ex_Savior LOL! Definitely plan to buy one like yours eventually. ;) I did get the crimp tool and make a few test cables but I’ll have to get back to it later since I’m still recovering from a natural disaster (direct hit from an EF-4 tornado). Definitely getting inspired here. :)
Very nice setup my man. Extron products are absolutely amazing in build quality, features and flexibility. My road to A/V switchers started with the humble unpowered 4 input switcher, got a step-up with my Extron MAV Plus, upped the ante with two Crosspoint Ultras then finally evolved into its final form with a single Crosspoint 300. I actually just bought the Crosspoint 16x8 300 series to replace my two daisy-chained 8x8 Crosspoint Ultras. The 16x8 is perfect for me since I don't see myself going beyond 14 or so analog consoles and I'll NEVER need more than 4 or 5 outputs. I could've kept the two Ultras the way they were, but I wanted the ease and convenience of an all-in-one unit plus one free power socket. I got to admit though, I'm going to miss those larger glowing buttons from the Ultra. I've also been using an 8x4 Extron DXP for HDMI, but I'm going to be replacing it soon for a 4k 60hz option. I completely agree with your feelings on RGB/SCART vs Component. The headaches of SCART just aren't worth it these days when Component is so much easier to deal with alongside a plethora of RGB to Component cables and converters. Personally, I use mostly Component with some S-Video sprinkled in from consoles I haven't RGB modded yet like my N64 and 3DO. Extron switchers are really easy to set up if you're dealing with RCA plugs and MAYBE S-Video with the right y-adapter... except of course the phoenix plugs lol. Luckily there's plenty of adapters out there to buy, but alas it is an investment and a necessary evil. However, once you get it all going and move on from the shock factor you gave your bank account, it's a real treat to use. Multiplayer nights with friends and family are a blast with multiple TV's and consoles hooked up to these mighty machines.
Loved the video, your the reason I bought an extron switcher. I just have a question, I already bought the Phoenix to rca boards and installed them but where did you pick up the “3.5mm jacks”? Would you happen to have a link to the site, I need to order some because of the same problem you had with your switcher.
Yes, this is taken directly from the user’s manual: “CrossPoint - Both switcher models input and output ultra-wideband RGBHV or RGBS video. They can also switch RGsB, RsGsBs, component/HDTV, S-video, or composite video.” Something to be mindful about - even though these crosspoint switchers will take all these inputs, it will only match whatever input it recognizes. For example: if you plug in an S-Video input, it will not output via RGBHV. This does not convert signals from one type to the other.
Sure. You can order them directly from Retrogamingcables from this link: www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/audio-video-accessories/STEREO-SOUND-RCA-PHONO-TO-PHOENIX-5-WAY-ADAPTER-FOR-EXTRON-MATRIX-300-SWITCH If you want to build your own, you can order the PCB board from OSHpark and order the 3.5 mm or RCA boards from Digikey here: oshpark.com/profiles/paalfe - PCB Boards www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=CP1-3523N-ND - 3.5 mm adapter for PCB board www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=CP-1435-ND - RCA adapter for the PCB board
I just purchased a Crosspoint Ultra 84 8x4 for my video games. After a "reset" of the Crosspoint, the Crosspoint doesn't show up on my network. Does anyone have experience with networking a Crosspoint?
I have a 1616 (composite) that does audio and video.. but it seems like it's fighting me on allowing all of my inputs (game systems) to go out to a single output (tv).. any idea what i could be doing wrong?
I’m not sure I understand your question, but I don’t believe any Extron device will allow you to grab multiple audio input sources into a single audio output. You can take 1 audio input and split it going out however many ways you need it to go. Depending on what model you have, the device might have inputs locked in place. Have you tried resetting your device? There might be a reset switch in the back somewhere.
Skimming through the user’s manual, I also did not see any sort of accepted resolutions. I would say it’s limits are based on the connection type. So for Y or Y/C it would be 240/480i. For RGBS/RGsB, it would be 240p up to 1080i. For RGBHV, realistically speaking it would be 480p to 1080p.
Hi! Didn't you have another video in which you showed the Sony pro VTR SVHS player? I could swear you did, but I can't find it anymore... did you delete it?
@@Ex_Savior i thought so. that's disappointing, i'd be really keen on re-watching your review of your pro VHS deck. :( Anyway, thanks for having replied.
Can you get your extron switcher to work for PS2 and Sega Genesis?? My Nintendo and super Nintendo work great through RGB.. but my PS2 in Genesis will not sync up? I've tried every possible combination possible with multiple cables.
I have no problems using either console. If you’re using RGB, you have to make sure that your sync is C-Sync. These switchers might have a hard time reading other sync types.
Your set up literally has everything i want even the svo vhs player
Thanks man. Wasn't cheap, but the set up is close to complete for me.
Thanks for making this i just started watching your channel its helped me decide what exactly im going to put in my video rack
Thanks for watching! Glad I can help with your set up decision!
@@Ex_Savior keep them coming its hard to get any visual info on older video equipment. your channel has helped alot
I recently picked up the same switcher in the slightly smaller 8x8 w/audio. Swapped it in to replace an old Phillips component switcher where the outputs were daisy chained via my PVM and split out to another CRT. The Extron is so much better, and no signal noise introduced by either the old auto switcher, or cheap passive switchers is great.
I've not tried any of my systems with SCART as I started putting together my current setup after HD Retrovision cables became available. Being able to easily switch any of my systems to my PVM, consumer Trinitron, or OSSC as needed is fantastic!
Yeah it's quite amazing, myself I still use a generic "3-position SCART transfer switch" (really just a plain dumb metal box with a rotary knob to switch inputs, all it says on the front is "DATA TRANSFER SWITCH" nothing more... I got this for 2€ at a garage sale ages ago, the seller didn't know what it was for) so far I have not yet noticed noise or crosstalk (we'll see once I receive my 9" PVM probably a 9045qm or a 9042qm), personally I'll limit myself to two CRTs, so I don't need a big Crosspoint..
It's the most essential addition to my set up. Extron builds to really good quality items. I have not had any issues at all since setting this up.
literally the coolest thing in the world, im getting my setup ready for that as well
Thanks! Hopefully the set up has progressed by this time. If not, keep looking! It'll all be worth it in the end.
I've been using a 12x4 one for about a year and it's awesome
I’m so glad I made the switch from SCART to Component. 16x16 might be a bit overkill for some people but I plan on using all inputs eventually.
I'm so jealous of your setup
Ah damn lol. Took a lot of money to get it built up. Hopefully, you can have a similar set up one day as well.
Found an 8x4 Crosspoint at Goodwill a year and a half ago. $30. Since then I have spend hundreds tooling up to make custom console cables for the thing... got 1,000 feet of their MHR cable and 350 BNC ends. Ordered the crimp tool but the seller didn’t come through so now I’m sitting on all this! Oh well. In the mean time I have been repurposing 10PINCOMPON cables from DirecTV boxes to make component cables for UltraHDMI HW2+DAC and N64Digital. Also for PS2/3, original XBOX, Wii, etc. I have well over 100 of these! GO BIG OR GO HOME! ...while ignoring the diminutive size of my 8x4 Extron Crosspoint switch. ;)
That's quite a project! Hopefully you get all the cabling done soon. Your set up can definitely benefit from a Crosspoint switcher!
@@Ex_Savior LOL! Definitely plan to buy one like yours eventually. ;) I did get the crimp tool and make a few test cables but I’ll have to get back to it later since I’m still recovering from a natural disaster (direct hit from an EF-4 tornado). Definitely getting inspired here. :)
Very nice setup my man. Extron products are absolutely amazing in build quality, features and flexibility. My road to A/V switchers started with the humble unpowered 4 input switcher, got a step-up with my Extron MAV Plus, upped the ante with two Crosspoint Ultras then finally evolved into its final form with a single Crosspoint 300. I actually just bought the Crosspoint 16x8 300 series to replace my two daisy-chained 8x8 Crosspoint Ultras. The 16x8 is perfect for me since I don't see myself going beyond 14 or so analog consoles and I'll NEVER need more than 4 or 5 outputs. I could've kept the two Ultras the way they were, but I wanted the ease and convenience of an all-in-one unit plus one free power socket. I got to admit though, I'm going to miss those larger glowing buttons from the Ultra. I've also been using an 8x4 Extron DXP for HDMI, but I'm going to be replacing it soon for a 4k 60hz option.
I completely agree with your feelings on RGB/SCART vs Component. The headaches of SCART just aren't worth it these days when Component is so much easier to deal with alongside a plethora of RGB to Component cables and converters. Personally, I use mostly Component with some S-Video sprinkled in from consoles I haven't RGB modded yet like my N64 and 3DO. Extron switchers are really easy to set up if you're dealing with RCA plugs and MAYBE S-Video with the right y-adapter... except of course the phoenix plugs lol. Luckily there's plenty of adapters out there to buy, but alas it is an investment and a necessary evil. However, once you get it all going and move on from the shock factor you gave your bank account, it's a real treat to use. Multiplayer nights with friends and family are a blast with multiple TV's and consoles hooked up to these mighty machines.
u did put good money into this setup no doubt
More than I would like to admit, but glad not as much as I would have put into it in today's market.
@@Ex_Savior yeah today's market is so scary these days. But glad you're doing well with how the nightmare continues to grow
A D24 and a 20L5! Sigh you will be mine one day
Don't give up! Hopefully you find them at a good price!
Loved the video, your the reason I bought an extron switcher. I just have a question, I already bought the Phoenix to rca boards and installed them but where did you pick up the “3.5mm jacks”? Would you happen to have a link to the site, I need to order some because of the same problem you had with your switcher.
Oh wow, glad to hear that! I would say DigiKey is your best bet. Which exact ones? I’m not sure so I couldn’t tell you.
Did you ever find them? I'm trying to find the same piece haha
I'm about to pick one up locally for under $10. No audio, but for that price I don't mind.
That's a great price! Down the road, perhaps you can find a switcher with audio inputs. It's really worth it.
do u know would for example the green channel carry composite signal to output composite say if you want to connect woth a consumer set?
What is the smaller Extron unit on top of the Crosspoint? And what is its function?
I'm a little confused. If I put a MiSTER fpga RGB cable into this, will it work? or does this only work with component
Which audio Phoenix connectors fits works with this unit?
Is it possible to use some consoles through RGB scart and other consoles through composite all connected to the Crosspoint?
Yes, this is taken directly from the user’s manual:
“CrossPoint - Both switcher models input and output ultra-wideband RGBHV or RGBS video. They can also switch RGsB, RsGsBs, component/HDTV, S-video, or composite video.”
Something to be mindful about - even though these crosspoint switchers will take all these inputs, it will only match whatever input it recognizes. For example: if you plug in an S-Video input, it will not output via RGBHV. This does not convert signals from one type to the other.
Please put a link or type in the sight to get the parts for the audio adapters
Sure. You can order them directly from Retrogamingcables from this link:
www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/audio-video-accessories/STEREO-SOUND-RCA-PHONO-TO-PHOENIX-5-WAY-ADAPTER-FOR-EXTRON-MATRIX-300-SWITCH
If you want to build your own, you can order the PCB board from OSHpark and order the 3.5 mm or RCA boards from Digikey here:
oshpark.com/profiles/paalfe - PCB Boards
www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=CP1-3523N-ND - 3.5 mm adapter for PCB board
www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=CP-1435-ND - RCA adapter for the PCB board
What kind of shelf are you using? It looks like something from IKEA but much heavier,
Wire rack shelving. Amazon has plenty of models.
I just purchased a Crosspoint Ultra 84 8x4 for my video games. After a "reset" of the Crosspoint, the Crosspoint doesn't show up on my network. Does anyone have experience with networking a Crosspoint?
What’s that small box sitting on top of the matrix switcher?!
It's a vga switch box
It's the Extron RGB 203 Rxi. It converts a RGBS, RGsB, or RGBHV signal via DSUB15 to a RGBS, RGsB, or RGBHV signal via BNC. Very nifty tool.
I have a 1616 (composite) that does audio and video.. but it seems like it's fighting me on allowing all of my inputs (game systems) to go out to a single output (tv).. any idea what i could be doing wrong?
I’m not sure I understand your question, but I don’t believe any Extron device will allow you to grab multiple audio input sources into a single audio output. You can take 1 audio input and split it going out however many ways you need it to go. Depending on what model you have, the device might have inputs locked in place. Have you tried resetting your device? There might be a reset switch in the back somewhere.
The Xbox HDMI output feature HDCP content protection, that is the reason why the analog video output limits to 480... there's no cable to fix that
What's a reasonable price for this particular crosspoint switch? I'm seeing these go for $200 on eBay.
The sounds reasonable to me.
You Sir, have been bitten by the AV bug.
I think so! Not looking for a cure at the moment! ;)
What's the max resolution this can push? Can it do 1080p for rgbhv? The version of the manual I have doesn't really talk about resolutions.
Skimming through the user’s manual, I also did not see any sort of accepted resolutions. I would say it’s limits are based on the connection type. So for Y or Y/C it would be 240/480i. For RGBS/RGsB, it would be 240p up to 1080i. For RGBHV, realistically speaking it would be 480p to 1080p.
Yes, they have sufficient bandwidth
Hi!
Didn't you have another video in which you showed the Sony pro VTR SVHS player? I could swear you did, but I can't find it anymore... did you delete it?
That video was removed from my channel.
@@Ex_Savior i thought so. that's disappointing, i'd be really keen on re-watching your review of your pro VHS deck. :(
Anyway, thanks for having replied.
Can you get your extron switcher to work for PS2 and Sega Genesis?? My Nintendo and super Nintendo work great through RGB.. but my PS2 in Genesis will not sync up? I've tried every possible combination possible with multiple cables.
I have no problems using either console. If you’re using RGB, you have to make sure that your sync is C-Sync. These switchers might have a hard time reading other sync types.
@@Ex_Savior yeah i ended up spending several hundred dollars upgrading all my cables. Your channel has been very useful! Thanks
Hi! Would you be interested in selling your Extron 1616? 😊 I’m a serious buyer! Have a great day. /Dejan
Nope
@@Ex_Savior Do you know anywhere i might find a 1616 ultra. I can find 168 but I need a 1616 :)
@@DejanSubosic eBay