Thunderheart (1992) - Freedom Speech

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  • @terryhughes7349
    @terryhughes7349 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Trudell kicked it out of the park with this scene

  • @Nightbird.
    @Nightbird. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    For those of us with Native blood..this was more than a movie. It touched our heart. It was a reality check. A wake-up call. And a reminder of how strong our people are..and how much we have suffered and endured. It doesn't matter if you're a full blood native or a 10 percenter. This movie is a lesson to us all that in the end..after all the tears..and anger..and bullshit..we are brothers & sisters. And we must stand together..or fall divided.

    • @enkiea52
      @enkiea52 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes i agree and Im a 25% Ojibwe and Cree

    • @JusticeFortheSilenced
      @JusticeFortheSilenced 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It matters. If you aren't part of a tribe you have never known the struggle.

    • @Nightbird.
      @Nightbird. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JusticeFortheSilenced Struggles come in different forms..but are just as painful. A native who isn't part of a tribe and doesn't have their brothers and sisters to back them up and protect them suffers greater at the hands of their enemies when they are alone.

    • @JusticeFortheSilenced
      @JusticeFortheSilenced 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Nightbird Really? Because my Grandfather was kidnapped from his tribe when he was a small child by the US government when they decided the answer to the "Indian problem" was to "Christianize" them. They cut his hair, changed his name and beat him for speaking his own language.
      Natives today mostly live in poverty, they suffer with all kinds of issues from being marginalized.
      What have you and all the Elizabeth Warren's in the world suffered?

    • @mikevonchota9263
      @mikevonchota9263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're probably an Irish guy from Boston lol

  • @debbiemoore8407
    @debbiemoore8407 7 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    "Sometimes they have to kill us...sometimes they have to kill us..they can't break our spirits "...just memorable......

    • @jeffkelly6841
      @jeffkelly6841 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, it is.

    • @BlueBeeMCMLXI
      @BlueBeeMCMLXI ปีที่แล้ว

      Memorable?

    • @CarolWilliams-uy7ll
      @CarolWilliams-uy7ll ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wish EVERY AMERICAN would listen to Mr Tudell's comments about WHO is really free!

    • @inlakesh555
      @inlakesh555 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Spoken by John Trudell, so real, nonfictional

  • @aum0aumgood
    @aum0aumgood 7 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    "we choose the right to be who we are! we know the difference between the reality of FREEDOM! and the ILLUSION of freedom"

    • @thunderbear4254
      @thunderbear4254 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      White Oklahoma Indians 😂😂😂 Idek what that even means

    • @Perbuatan1883
      @Perbuatan1883 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @andrew let me apologise , could you imagine a so to say "western world profiled" mind feeling highly intrigate by these spiritual experiences ?

    • @sowhat...
      @sowhat... 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @andrew are you talking to a deleted comment again? Because otherwise this doesn't make sense.

    • @speedracer175
      @speedracer175 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thunderbear4254 Lol 😂 who knows.

    • @frenchpizza9725
      @frenchpizza9725 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      CREATOR taught us

  • @ArronBarringer
    @ArronBarringer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    John Trudell is a Legend. Always remember his name, his family, and what he did for The People.

    • @OGDweeb
      @OGDweeb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He was a great poet.

    • @JedediahSmith342
      @JedediahSmith342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      John Trudell taught us lots he was a reality humanbeing being very human, his whole life through understood by a few known by many. Who’s gonna teach the next generations? Are we lost? Time will tell. 🙏🏽

    • @robertayoder2063
      @robertayoder2063 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OGDweeb prophet

    • @noelwhittington6457
      @noelwhittington6457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My aunt was at alcatraz. She referred to him as brother John she is full Navajo. I'm mixed ndn, Pima.

  • @snafulife1772
    @snafulife1772 8 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I understand the difference between the reality of freedom and the illusion of freedom!

  • @pamelacorona3665
    @pamelacorona3665 9 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I love this scene. As Ray sits down , he's trying to come to grips with who he is , and you can see a headdress surrounding his head as he reaches for the pipe , beautiful : )

  • @JAHenry
    @JAHenry 8 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    We choose to live the way of Earth...

    • @Nightbird.
      @Nightbird. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, brother. We do.

    • @aum0aumgood
      @aum0aumgood 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "they can't break our spirit"...!

    • @jrunberg
      @jrunberg 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      J. A. Henry 4 people don't choose the way of the earth.

    • @chrisb75
      @chrisb75 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I quoted this scene today. Happy Earth day.

    • @JAHenry
      @JAHenry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisb75
      it's always applicable somewhere in your day, eh?

  • @FN_FAL_4_ever
    @FN_FAL_4_ever 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The old man’s weathered and distinguished face is beautiful

  • @breeze7473
    @breeze7473 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great movie, I’m Native PROUD

  • @Himaryous
    @Himaryous 9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I've always loved this movie. Helped me face my feelings about my dad, who died when I was very young from the same cause as Ray's.

    • @luvfreedom1470
      @luvfreedom1470 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @andrew Yeah but the tribes were massacring each other all along though.

    • @Stormcloud32
      @Stormcloud32 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@luvfreedom1470 That is what history is telling us right? But how do we really know. I doubt it was as bad as you describe it to have been.

  • @ZakKing01
    @ZakKing01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My aunt dated John when I was a kid. He made such a lasting impression on me.

  • @11thhousemediawithrobertph60
    @11thhousemediawithrobertph60 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Tru nearly steals the movie in the few brief scenes he was in. The man was a force.

  • @badazzfeliciano
    @badazzfeliciano 9 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    RIP John Trudell

    • @petraklein8170
      @petraklein8170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He's here with us...now he is a guardian of our spirits!!! Wakan Tanka!!!

    • @sonnyman4280
      @sonnyman4280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🇩🇪

  • @PunkRockNerd10171
    @PunkRockNerd10171 9 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Rest in Peace, Mr Trudell

  • @jrider5313
    @jrider5313 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Fkn great scene✊
    Watching this movie again now that im older makes me realize it really is like this in many nation communities. The tradish grassroot Natives versus the sellout Indian agents and oppressors.

  • @josephmartinez4532
    @josephmartinez4532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The indigenous will lead humanity spiritually

  • @wandajones8598
    @wandajones8598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    " We Know The difference between the reality of freedom And the Illusions of freedom."

  • @dannymartinez9371
    @dannymartinez9371 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    One of my all time favorite movie scenes. And one of my all time favorite playwrights is playing the corrupt FBI dude. GF and I saw this movie on big screen at a dollar theatre, just before was released to video (at the time). We were so pleasantly surprised how good a movie this one is.

    • @speedracer175
      @speedracer175 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      who is the corrupt FBI dude in the movie

    • @dannymartinez9371
      @dannymartinez9371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@speedracer175 Sam Shepard

  • @battlefront2style824
    @battlefront2style824 7 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    "They broke my TV."

    • @sowhat...
      @sowhat... 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "They killed my dog."

  • @MrAlsfan5
    @MrAlsfan5 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    What a great actor and activist John Trudell was.

  • @CLRF2
    @CLRF2 9 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Great Movie!! In fact probably the most decent portrayal Of the American Indian by hollywood.

    • @Nightbird.
      @Nightbird. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well said brother.

    • @NormAppleton
      @NormAppleton 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This movie and the Documentary "Incident at Oglala" came out withing months of each other. Both directed by Michael Apted, both featuring John Trudell.

    • @jonon1989
      @jonon1989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Have you watched " dark wind" another great movie, plus filmed near home in tuba city az

    • @CLRF2
      @CLRF2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonon1989 No But I will check it out! Thanks

    • @jonon1989
      @jonon1989 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CLRF2 Tony hillerman Dark Wind 👍

  • @frenchpizza9725
    @frenchpizza9725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Every day John, grandpa. We miss you both. Tatanka strength family. First Nation's

  • @tomavilla8428
    @tomavilla8428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    John got to write his own lines in this part of the movie. In the beginning he turned the movie down because they wanted to cut a sweat lodge in half and John said he doesn't want anything to do with this movie if they do that.

  • @debiase1
    @debiase1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of my fav movies

  • @robertw6657
    @robertw6657 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    best scene of the movie. well done with a real tribal feel

  • @friscowolf2917
    @friscowolf2917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw John Trudell perform in Berkeley in the 80's. What an intense presence!

  • @robertyellow8493
    @robertyellow8493 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Jimmy has a cool-ass Mohawk going on.

  • @SurgeCess
    @SurgeCess 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    hey rest in peace Mr. Trudell and Chief Ted Thin Elk

  • @TheCheyanne16
    @TheCheyanne16 9 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    'IT ABOUT POWER RAYYY"

  • @brianmesch
    @brianmesch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great movie,I respect the native community a very interesting culture.one of my good friends is ogallala he passed
    away i will never forget him.

  • @mattanderson4965
    @mattanderson4965 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I choose the Earth my Mother and provider she is all our mother.

  • @kenzo7513
    @kenzo7513 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    # Standing Rock

  • @B4CKW00D5B0B
    @B4CKW00D5B0B 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The old man in this clip, (chief ted thin elk) playing grandpa sam reaches is playing a character that was based off Frank Fools Crow aka Grandfather Eagle Bear. One of the greatest holy men/healers/medicine men that ever lived. Breaks my heart when I see them crush his sacred turtle rattle. The younger Native playing Jimmy looks twice is real life John Trudell. One of the greatest Native activists ever. If you don't know who either of them are, look them up! Gives this scene so much more authenticity knowing who's playing the roles and who their roles are based on. Also nice that real life Native Americans were cast in this movie. This is one of my most favorite movies and its loosely based on true events. Lots of videos on YT with John's speeches! The force was strong in him!

  • @entropyregen7438
    @entropyregen7438 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I love it “They have to kill us” my mom was adopted out of Alaska and I grew up away from my people but that spirit is in my DNA! I fear no one! My grandfather grew up with the US military pointing guns at him in Alaska but everyone tries to say this happened four hundred years ago! No it didn’t!

    • @TheJokerx420
      @TheJokerx420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly man they do have to kill us.. it’s the only way for people to see

  • @judycampbell6139
    @judycampbell6139 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    We choose the way to live with Earth; They Can't Break Our Spirit. A'ho.

  • @brideofsnape2046
    @brideofsnape2046 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    RIP John Trudell. RIP Sam Shepard.

  • @Mr_Mckinney_PRM_AIM
    @Mr_Mckinney_PRM_AIM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    John Trudell lived on the Duck Valley Indian Reservation. So do I. Sanctioned AIM Members only…✊🏽

  • @pamelacorona3665
    @pamelacorona3665 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Rest In Peace John

  • @warinsidemyhead11
    @warinsidemyhead11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "We choose the way of Earth"....

  • @rogerr.5803
    @rogerr.5803 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    we are all on the reservation now.

  • @darwinmitchell7549
    @darwinmitchell7549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's a way to live with earth and a way not to live with the earth. We choose the way of earth.

  • @kchuntinghawk5514
    @kchuntinghawk5514 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    R.I.P John trudell

  • @DebMustard
    @DebMustard 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    RIP dear one

  • @mikevonchota9263
    @mikevonchota9263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing scene!🪶🏹🔆

  • @AD-gy6eq
    @AD-gy6eq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    John Trudell. Always with us. Forever.

  • @winterfire2679
    @winterfire2679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Sometimes they have to kill us...they Have to kill us, because they can't break our spirit"

  • @LAKOTASamurai1
    @LAKOTASamurai1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Red Deer Table" the real name here in South Dakota is called "Red Shirt Table" where Uranium is still being extracted to this day

  • @carmenronyak1321
    @carmenronyak1321 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Truth never sees the light....but thru the human...

  • @darwinmitchell7549
    @darwinmitchell7549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You have to do what our elders say.

  • @melanie.l6282
    @melanie.l6282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The white put fire to his house with his pregnant wife and 2 children inside....what a terrible drama to go through
    He paid the high price for his resistance
    RIP John

  • @Putaspellonyou
    @Putaspellonyou 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "Relax, Ray...this ain't no Mexican agriculture."

  • @codzy3532
    @codzy3532 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    they have to kill us.......cause they cant kill our spirits amen to that love u guys greetings from australia great great movie too we love it over here 😊😉🖤🧡❤✊💐🌹🥀

  • @liamwinchesterchasten2229
    @liamwinchesterchasten2229 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The actor portraying John Trudell! 💯💯🥰

  • @Danielkaas94
    @Danielkaas94 12 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    native americans deserve better! Imagine something like this happens to you because of your culture! :(

    • @Stormcloud32
      @Stormcloud32 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @andrew My grandfather was born on an Indian reservation in Oklahoma. He had some very real and sad stories as a small child.

  • @barteason1008
    @barteason1008 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hope your journey here and it's hard lessons had led to your entrance to the Spirit world and fellowship with the Grandfathers..with humility I hope to see and follow you there Brother... There is a greater purpose in the end of our paths here in this world with its many man made atrocities.. I pray you have found the end of the old and beginning of your new path..and can walk in peace with Taku Wakan and those who have gone before and pray you wait for our arrival..the true family and one tribe..

  • @heathdavis419
    @heathdavis419 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Movie 😀

  • @j.e.9017
    @j.e.9017 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    if there was ever a ripe time than today to stand up and form a more perfect union, by way of the bloodline of the first stewards of this land -- that time is today. we've got the lights. everyone's got a camera. all we need is some organized action.

  • @brockcloke1095
    @brockcloke1095 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Indian blood never thin less

    • @68catnip
      @68catnip 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True I'm fortunate to be one of the few full-bloods left, our population does grow but now carry more european blood these days. Lived both in the city and my rez, now I'm going back to my rez!

    • @brockcloke1095
      @brockcloke1095 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      68catnip is the spirit it has to stay alive...

    • @Nightbird.
      @Nightbird. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Remember..it's not our blood that makes us Native. It's our spirit. And spirit never dies nor thins out.

    • @richardvargas2559
      @richardvargas2559 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      if i was adopted by a native family does that make me crow as well

  • @OIFJESSE
    @OIFJESSE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great movie

  • @JoshSmith-ff8dw
    @JoshSmith-ff8dw 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We know the difference between the reality of freedom, and the illusion of freedom.

  • @frenchpizza9725
    @frenchpizza9725 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love love love love love you John

  • @jeffkelly6841
    @jeffkelly6841 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good movie 👍

  • @judycampbell6139
    @judycampbell6139 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We choose the way of Earth. #AIM

  • @frenchpizza9725
    @frenchpizza9725 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every day family. I belong here.

  • @moosestubbings1853
    @moosestubbings1853 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hurting
    Everyone
    Living
    Posthumously

  • @Wilderdk
    @Wilderdk 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Clip.

  • @frenchpizza9725
    @frenchpizza9725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every day family

  • @javierzarate2196
    @javierzarate2196 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Muy linda peli alguien podría bajarla en castellano por favor gracias

  • @frenchpizza9725
    @frenchpizza9725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  • @bluzcompany2293
    @bluzcompany2293 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Welcome to the illusion of freedom .

  • @3abbosi
    @3abbosi 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this a deleted scene? Because I dont remember watching it last time I watched the movie on TV, I just remember the old man saying "they broke my TV". I know that some TV channels remove scenes that involve violence, or for other reasons.

  • @LadyFaith1974
    @LadyFaith1974 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If people would stop looking at color and cultures maybe we as a people could get along. It's not right to treat a person different because of the person that they are.

  • @karenelkins9176
    @karenelkins9176 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    #truebluewarrior
    #4ever

  • @frenchpizza9725
    @frenchpizza9725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Val

  • @AA-zm4ow
    @AA-zm4ow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Free will is true freedom contract law making your own way n things, no trade

  • @darwinmitchell7549
    @darwinmitchell7549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The return to nature's way.

  • @jamestatumpeddicord8061
    @jamestatumpeddicord8061 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am the old man I've come to see Liz hildebrad I don't know who wheeler is this is the year 2021 my name is rainbow luv♥️

  • @frenchpizza9725
    @frenchpizza9725 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    John. Best truth. They Have to.....

  • @rebeccap5538
    @rebeccap5538 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The late great John Trudell and Ted Thin Elk

  • @charlesswag4858
    @charlesswag4858 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Us real people's are sacred .

  • @sonnyman4280
    @sonnyman4280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🖐

  • @charlesswag4858
    @charlesswag4858 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sacred is all.

  • @brettunger2578
    @brettunger2578 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    People....places....and things....

  • @briandavis6043
    @briandavis6043 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does Grandpa say when he answers the door?

  • @dustyblue2ify
    @dustyblue2ify ปีที่แล้ว

    🎯🕸knowing......

  • @BombzOnZombz
    @BombzOnZombz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still true

  • @jonnybirchyboy1560
    @jonnybirchyboy1560 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now there’s a true American

  • @darwinmitchell7549
    @darwinmitchell7549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Federal Breue of Intimidation

    • @codzy3532
      @codzy3532 ปีที่แล้ว

      bwahahaha white c#*ts

  • @joshschaeffer3300
    @joshschaeffer3300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When the feds busted in I thought it was Robert Deniro for just a second. Turns out this movie is produced by Robert Deniro.

  • @phartsmone5830
    @phartsmone5830 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    🔥

  • @jamestatumpeddicord8061
    @jamestatumpeddicord8061 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    🌈 any comments at all please.

  • @jamestatumpeddicord8061
    @jamestatumpeddicord8061 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a dramatization movie this is a loving community Mike I don't know what is his story I just got here I'm looking for a place for safe storage and lodging while I'm here to speak with Liz and the laundry lady if this is what has to be this is a family community with lots of loving children and lots of loving parents and lots of loving people this is a Utopia as far as I've been around this planet it's a wonderful place thank you for your cooperation

  • @MrAcer4
    @MrAcer4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ray got lucky he didn't get shot here

  • @hopenavajo1391
    @hopenavajo1391 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The American Justice system has not been fair to natives.The legal system has been unfair and natives are provided with cheap legal defense appointed by the government. Talk about justice for all.

  • @cky2k7
    @cky2k7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why the fuck would you end it where it was

  • @brianmitchell7006
    @brianmitchell7006 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish the damn schools I went to growing up would have known they can't brake me

  • @AA-zm4ow
    @AA-zm4ow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Drugs addiction is power , I am part native Spanish n french every native considers themselves a pirate thief drug dealers , smoker of Marijuana Tabacco alcoholic, then you have heroin cocaine ,mushrooms, fake sunflowers, drugs from all over the world Brazil china India Russia middle east, that's native American plus pride ,,

  • @jensgems6506
    @jensgems6506 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:28

  • @aum0aumgood
    @aum0aumgood 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    who are the two abusive fbi jacketed military thugs in this scene? anyone know?