He has a very narrow window of intelligence, with 0 common sense. He's basically the Bill Nye of physics. A far far departure from his predecessors like Carl Sagan and Leonard Susskind..
he talks fast sometimes to give people less time to retort. hes a dick. governments have the power to keep secrets. theres a reason jfk papers were withheld lol thats more important of a secret than a presidential BJ lol
@@weedthepeople2795 It's hard to get through to a lot of scientific minds when it comes to this subject. The problem is these people are "realists" and they prefer data so they're not going to entertain the alien talk. I empathize with their scepticism but their scepticism does go a little too far. You'd have to have an alien body right in front of a guy like this in order to make them believe
@@JosephFuckinStalin Yes its REALLY hard to convince people of something with zero evidence. calling someone a "realist" because theyre a scientist means nothing. theres literally no proof of aliens having visited earth but TONS of scientists will entertain the idea that aliens exist. Theres even astrobiologists. legit 130 IQ people dedicating their careers to the prospect of alien life. and they would KILL to have one in front of them. you say believe like it means more than physical evidence. faith doesnt get us iphones and GPS. Neil doesnt need it in front of him. He would gladly believe in those alien bodies if at least a few respected scientists in their respective fields gave the thumbs up. but that has yet to happen. ever.
He shows the level of intelligence of a lot of people in this country. Can you imagine the wild shit he believes when others aren't there to correct him?
@@gwolf9642 yea but at least he's willing to engage and learn. Adding to your comment about general American intelligence, I think most people are willfully ignorant. Whereas here, there's an attempt to learn.
Ha, I so relate to Neil, when I am excited about something I tend to just babble on way too much.. I try to let others talk and have got better over time, but yeah.. it's a struggle
@commodoresixfour7478 that feud boosted sales and popularity for all 3 of them. If it weren't for a simple flyer and some paintballs that beef would have never happend and neither side would have made money off it.
No, just that J doesn't understand the simple understanding of magnetism. But that's it tho "If I don't understand or if I'm not smart enough to understand what it is, it must be God" Or it's most likely that you just don't have the understanding. "Simple" people are why there is so much religion and for that. Go read some books.
@@dannygreen592 go learn some manners. No need to insult an internet stranger to get your point across. I do read books. I'm well informed on the nature of physics, fundamental forces, and arguments to philosophically dismantle religious opposition to science. I already knew all about the dangers of using "god" to explain our ever-shrinking areas of ignorance. Read my comment again: I used the laugh emoji to convey my statement "Must mean they're miracles" _was a joke_ because _of course_ simply not covering it in one TH-cam video cannot be considered evidence for throwing away an entire field of physics. Next time you think about insulting an internet stranger to get your point across, take a break, touch some grass, and think about how you can do better.
The aircraft J was talking about was a Hiller flying platform made by the US Navy in the 1940's that used two 44 horsepower (33 kW) Nelson H-59 piston engines, coupled to the propellers by a modified helicopter transmission built by the Industrial Power Division of Hall-Scott. It did fly!.. But it was obviously very loud and extremely dangerous to operate so the project was discontinued.
It's been done with Beetle wings it's been done with electromagnetism there's at least three different versions all using the same principles fundamentally. I love how Tyson talks about Clinton's junk but doesn't bother to bring up the EpiPen situation that was covered up for how long with enough cash and force you can keep just about anything secret for as long as you want. Well not from magnetoception or the natural instincts you've been trained to ignore through public school indoctrination. That magnetception, aka 6th sense is what detects entanglement between electrons which fill empty space. At least inside the heliosphere that envelopes around the solar system from the sun. I was referring more to what Tyson's friends would call the quantum foam.
I mean he admits he only has a ninth grade education, he's got to know that he might be wrong about some things, which means he is intelligent and an objective thinker in that regard. But sometimes it's easier for some people to simplify things you don't have to think further about in order to get through life. I have great respect for Violent J as an artist and what he has accomplished, and even moreso when he was confronted with a contradictory perspective to his beliefs but didn't shout it out as being wrong. That's a true level of intelligence, to be open to new knowledge but to also approach with skepticism and a need for verification, just as NDT did when shown the alien footage.
cuz generally when you effectively attempt to debunk someone's religious beliefs to their face, they kind of aren't ready to accept that, and get defensive.
Thats because mr violent clown doesnt understand how blankin' childish he really is ,he lacks any real depth of self awareness=violent j is a cartoon menace while Mr. Tyson speaks as an adult.
@@L8-APEXyou are wrong. Neil is an amazing science educator,it’s just that when J starts to make a dumbass point Neil has heard that shit so many times that he cuts them off cuz he understands their position… maybe a bit rude, but his job is to educate people… not let them believe insane shit.
also... after Neil answered Jims question, Jim tried to remind Neil about Jays question but it was never answered. I respect Neil but I hate how he jumps around, interrupts, and loves to hear himself talk. I still watch him though so i dunno
Mr Tyson spoke in an imprecise manner about life expectancy. We aren't living longer. What we are doing is not dying earlier. There were old people in antiquity. A much greater number of old people today.
I didn't appreciate ICP until my 30s. Thank you, ICP, for showing perseverance and hard work can get you where you want to be. It's inspiring and I respect you guys.
Same here…Only recently at 35 have I really started getting into them and realizing what I’d been missing out on all these years because I believed you couldn’t like ICP and Eminem both…Now Em acts like a whiny, anti-American libtard.
@@JarethGT its like he knew he was getting dismissed, but i mean, thats what his whole life was about and making music about that same shit and being different. he seem like a good dude clown paint and crazy thoughts and all. but yet we jus witnessed in real time everything they been talkn bout for 20 plus years
I love how genuine J is, he's always been a fan of this sort of thing and he's just hanging on every word Neil is saying. I'm sure he knows alot himself but just the humble mindset to let Neil go on about it and genuine interest.
Violent j seems like a very patient person 😂 which I condone and thats awesome although I feel like deep down inside he was getting irritated with getting talked over by Neal. Either way this was a great episode.
WHO WOULDNT!? Neil may be a brilliant whoever, whatever, but good lord hes also overbearing & rude. The first does not give you the right to be the other!
At 10:15, Violent J asks Neil a question and as Neil says "yeah" Violent J makes a face and it lines up perfectly together and makes it look like Violent J is the one saying "yeah" 😂
The guy in the basket was a US Army guy trying to prove a concept as the Army wanted a device that an ordinary soldier can control the device, flew because of propellors under his feet. It was unstable but a soldier with great balance could keep it airborne. They wanted hundreds of these soldiers to be transported into battle. It existed but didn't work well enough to actually be used.
I was about to comment on that. At 55 Ive been around long enough to remember that device and others like the jet packs developed in the 60s that only had a flight time of like 30 seconds. People today are still developing non vehicle one man flight systems though. Theyve come a long way. I think the best option has been the jet wing that can be worn like a back pack. The creator of that is South American I believe as Ive seen video of him flying around that giant Jesus statue.
I grew up watching inner city posse (before insane clown) shows locally in Detroit. Harpos ect. ect... Love the music. This interview however makes it seem that He doesn't have even a highschool diploma. Why were these men put in the same room together? Sssstupid
@@ClarkPotter Most of the people shooting up schools are Christians or some other form of Abrahamic faith. Which is exactly why they scream at every chance they can to blame everything but their piss poor life styles.
Violent J's book, Behind the Paint, is an interesting read. The audiobook version is even better, because it's fully narrated by Violet J himself, and he can really paint a picture. Dude has lived a pretty wild life.
Thanks - gonna check it out. First heard ICP at age 13 and just passed them on to my 13 yo son who has coincidentally just developed his love for reading.
You guys can find the book, I'm just warning you. It's kind of expensive. I don't know if they didn't print it very long or what? But my copy was like somewhere between 60 & 80.
Here, y'all. Someone uploaded the audiobook to TH-cam. Part 1 - th-cam.com/video/q1IQnRX3024/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CNmODBjcMycdgrLd Part 2 - th-cam.com/video/ffWegdlu5ts/w-d-xo.htmlsi=k_uioX2i1JCnLe_r
I just wish Neil could fight that urge to give a second of not talking and the instant a sound comes out of someone's mouth, he interrupts over and over. It would be so much more interesting with some back and forth and not just him saying the same things he's said for decades
@@buzzkillodium hes to passionate about lecturing. Teachers let their students work out the ideas. if the student is wrong, they may correct them, or show them where they misunderstand, but violent J says "the only way to fuck with time is gravity" and Neil says "no!" and then explains how gravity directly influences the perception of time.. all before Violent J could continue his thought.
Did you feel like Niel was being unnecessarily Rude to Violent J though, "Hey I'm a big fan" and proceeds to get insulted and laughed at over and over. Not an ICP fan but felt bad for the guy.
Violent J and Neal T should have a longer interview. Just when things start to get up and running they run out of time . Would like to see a longer amount of time spent with these two guys.
I'm guilty of poking fun at Neil's expense. He is very passionate about science,knowledge and learning, and it never seems to matter who he's speaking to.
This is the a great youtube vid for history! Whoop! Whoop! This should be done AGAIN but allow Violent Jay more time to present his inquiries. Also, with shaggy and Bill Nye!!! Violent J, and Neil thank you!! I was left very curious to what Violent J's questions were. Please revisit.
I love that he seems to have touched those who may have gone through life without asking themselves questions about the universe (and didn't just hear or make up a fanciful belief). I saw lightbulbs go off (or is it on lol) in J's head a couple times.
I'm a big fan of psychopathic records, it's a shame that people judge these guys by their stage appearances and not by how they actually live their real lives. They're just regular Joe's like you and me, and more intelligent and down-to-earth than people think. You could tell in the video as well that he is very very interested in the conversation, and I was actually pleased to hear that violent j is a fan of Mr Tyson!
@@jamesrigg4389 Their fans can be a little much. Went to high school with a bunch of them. I was pretty friendly with them though, some even actual friends.
@user-ye5qs5hi9f Just because we don't know how something works, doesn't mean it's rational to just insert God. Humans have a long history of being corrected by science on something they didn't understand, so they thought it was supernatural, and then it turned out to not be supernatural. And humans are going to keep being wrong about things they don't understand in the future, because they need to grasp at straws in order to cope with the fact that we still have no evidence for a god or the supernatural.
I am surprised Neil didnt giggle, wagging his head side to side, on his way towards the door... As King Crimson once said . . . The fate of all mankind I see is in the hands of fools. Every word out of Neils mouth rattles the 17 brain cells interviewing him.
@@jorgec2233oh, absolutely. Tyson interrupts constantly in almost all forums he's in. If he's not talking he's pissed and will make sure everyone knows it.
@thomasjones4570 NDT Fanboy, defending him for being a dick by saying, YEAH HES ALWAYS LIKE THAT TOO EVERYONE!!! and promptly insulting the other person, no matter who it is. 😂 I see these comments so much.
I was expecting sonething sooo different! I truly wish he would have let Violent Jay speak about why he believes in God. I have faith in God myself and it is refreshing to know that someone you wouldn't expect (violent j) does as well. He kept cutting him off from speaking about it every time he tried.
Yes Neil is a atheist so self worship. He lost all credibly as a scientist not long ago with a post talking about how a man can become a woman and vise versa. I wonder how much the left paid him to lie. Every scientist knows he lied. Even him. A sellout to his own profession.
That’s how we made lead shot that goes into shotgun shells at Winchester. You drip the lead out of small holes and drop it inside the shot tower which is about 10 stories high and 5 stories under the ground. It cooled as it dropped into water and a conveyor belt brought the shot to the surface for sizing and distribution to the shot shell maker
It wouldn’t have been profound. No one on earth could make any profound reason about god, or why one thinks a god is real let alone “violent j” 😂. As far as anyone knows, it’s an unknown topic, that’s unfalsifiable as far as anyone ever has tried. Guarantee it would be the same run of the mill pondering. It was far better for violent j to listen I think. Why do you believe a god is real? Cuz rainbows and cool looking stuff, or cuz stuff had to be made it’s so intricate etc. etc. Neil would be left saying, cool story bro…
I think J was talking about Viktor Grebennikov. This was a very strange person who thought a species of beetle in Russia didn't fly but defied gravity. He built some anti-gravity scooter thing using the wing covers of this beetle. Very cool story. But I don't remember there being a video of it. If someone finds what he's talking about, could you link it for me?
Isn't it a little bit curious that "some guy in his garage" is who magically discovers all these miracles that no one can reproduce? Isn't it odd that megacorporations aren't taking over the world using this tech? Why can't the military figure it out? WHY is it always just "some guy"?
J surprised alot of people here. I've been listening to him since 97 and it's great to see people understanding him. I knew they were gonna bring up the magnets thing 😂 brilliant
@ 13:12 He's talking about levitation using beetles. Some guy found that Egyption beetles hover around, and they never run into anything. So the guy makes a box, puts it on the table, and it shoots off the table. He said he uses the same tech as the egypt bugs use. Which has to do with some kind of shape that their wings are. The guy had a long handle on a soap box, and it was "levitating". The guys died or something though and his work was taken.
@@foetalmonsieur yeah, that may be true, but what a terrible conversationalist. He may hear the thesis, but people have more to say than a general thought. How could you ever get to know somebody’s actual perspective if you don’t let them finish any of their dialogue?
Sure. But Neil was invited as an expert beyond their own knowledge. Sure, if this was a debate I'd see your argument as completely valid. But Neil was defending facts. Many of the "points" the others brought up, were here say at best. This whole episode is so disjointed that J ( high af mind you) looked shocked and embarrassed. I dunno, but I think perhaps I watched a different show than everyone else 🤷 possible I reckon. (It's not. Lol facts are facts not arguable and un proven theories and concepts which are definitely up for debate)
@11:00, I think he is referring to the Williams WASP. There were two built, and utilize a turbine engine to fly that was developed for cruise missile applications. The gyroscopic motion of the engine kept it stable. One is on display at Wright-Patterson Air Force Museum today. No magnets.
wow.. look at this high quality video, excellent sound, and multiple camera setup.. it would be a real shame if you were capturing this much footage every day but almost never releasing it or posting it on social or doing anything useful with it.. real shame indeed
Neil keeps telling the woman to talk and ask questions so he can stroke his intellect further, but as soon as she opens her mouth to say anything, he just talks over her anyway 😂
I know what J was talking about, the guy's name was Viktor Grebennikov. He supposedly created an anti gravity flying machine using the wings of a weird beetle he found in the wild. The inner and outer wings of the beetle will levitate under certain circumstances, which is actually real. The flying machine itself is more controversial.
He wasn't? Pretty sure there's only one story floating around about a guy who makes a flying machine out of insect wings. I don't know if you bothered to actually read my comment, or listened to the part of the podcast I was referring to. J was trying to put a name onto a story he heard somewhere, and couldn't produce it. And sure, there's no evidence that the machine ever actually worked, it's preposterous. But the smaller scale experiments with the beetle wings are documented and are true.
Agreed. Ngt interviews are a dime a dozen, and all boring af. Honestly I can't have alot of respect for anyone that has him on and treats him like a legitimate scientist, or even pop culture icon. He's a Bill nye for adults who still admire Bill nye... Bill "nigh" a scientist...lol
@@leekelley4701If you think listening to Neil is "boring af" then I have to believe that it's because you just don't understand science. The dude is an amazing science educator, yes, just like Bill Nye was before him (and somewhat continues to be). Both Nye and Tyson have an awesome talent for distilling incredibly complex scientific concepts down to a level anyone can understand. Highly underrated skill.
@@_MADAMIMADAM_They are both morons. They are wrong on a ton of subjects. Bill's degree is in mechanical engineering. Tyson's is in astrophysics. They should shut up about covid & climate change.
I would have more respect for Neil if he actually gave a hint of respect to the people trying to convey a question. I was so embarrassed watching Degrasse not giving a care in the world for other peoples questions especially violent J trying so hard to get his point across to deaf ears 👂
He's a prick. And of course the Government can keep a secret. It's easy, it's called compartmentalization. If you have 2000 people making a nuclear weapon but you tell each one that they're making this certain part or piece and that's all they need to know, and you pay them well, and no one except a handful of people know the entire project/secret, then congratulations, secrets are kept.
@@thephatjesus3032 I think he just lacks self awareness, but there is probably some narcissism with his conviction to science and seeing things black and white
It feels like Neil is so in love with his own intellect, that he has a hard time letting anyone else finish a sentence without trying to finish it for them. Interesting video all the same
@@cstepaniuk8611 "if you're the smartest person in the room, then you're in the wrong room." I sense he quite enjoys being the smartest person in a room, and goes out of his way to assert/display it to everyone.
Why? You'd just be watching Neil DeGrasse Tyson ask a Violent J a question and then as soon as J started to respond Tyson would just cut him off and ramble on for the next 45 minutes. This entire exchange was annoyingly disrespectful.
I do a lot of deliveries to military bases and I can't count the amount of times I've stumbled into areas with my phone where phones weren't allowed with no consequences 😂
Peace time State side military bases can be very lax depending on the base. Just like anywhere else, look like you belong there and have something to do you will rarely be questioned. Just don't be the guy who wanders to near to something they sensitive about. (A nuclear reactor or something like that). You will find that the lackadaisical attitude can change really fast and now you are looking down the barrel of a rifle being held by a scared 19 year old kid who doesn't know if you are a lost delivery guy or you are a terrorist trying to infiltrate and blow up something valuable.
@@Llllltryytcc Kinda. But we've got organization to thank for making that principle work. Human psychology is very much a big factor in societal organization. So, since humans will never get out of the way of progress, progress has to be organized in such a way that our nature doesn't snuff it out. It's not perfect, and said processes are sometimes defeated by cunning criminals exploiting precedential loopholes, and that's how we learn and tighten our processes! :-P
The man in the "craft" was scientist Viktor Grebennikov. Pretty sure this is what Violent J is referring to. The craft used the inner wing flaps of a specific beetle's wing which supposedly had a structure on a nanoscale that allows it to defy gravity. Very interesting, but true? I wanna believe, but i dont know.
Do u know the name of the video? Also, do you know by chance? What was he using as proportion or was it just? The wingshape of sad beetle that. was like spinning around like a chopper or something?
Type in his name, and the structure of the wing when magnified under a microscope at like 120x and 400x was like a corrugated surface that manipulates empty space, idk if it had to be activated in any way, he just fastened them underneath this platform and he could tilt it Fwd and Bk. The insane part is that he claimed it could achieve speeds well over 600 mph and he was protected by a gravity well so his attire wouldn't even blow off in the wind...
I'm sure the wing flaps 1. Probably had a charge 2. Could be propelled with an alt. current. But that would require many lbs of equipment. I just don't see this being possible, but then again look at how far advanced some of the greatest minds were compared to the coloquial people of the time, but was ion propulsion possible 60 yrs ago, and also found as a naturally occuring thing? (With a little scientific alteration)
When J was talking about this video I'm sure it's the exact one I saw and what you're talking about, I had it saved on my TH-cam account and is now gone. I have told people about it before and went to show the m the video and it is now gone. I'm sure someone has the video still but youtube has made it obsolete.
Are you salty about the fact Neil cut through their arguments with common sense and ease? How could he not overtalk these guy's with their 9th grade level education? The smarter people in the room were the ones that just wanted to listen to what Neil was saying.
He pauses just long enough for someone to start talking just so he can interrupt them. Probably one of the most annoying thing anyone can do. Right or not.
@@mr.mopedmadness3441if you had an attention span longer than a 3 year old you might notice Mr. Tyson is being hammered with multiple questions and inane statements, he's just trying to keep up with a drivel of childish magical believer Nonsense.Mr Tyson is a professional educator with a very high I.Q.while mr violent clown and his homies here are well, basically uneducated clowns who basically behave (and speak) like kids...
He is on the books. But not how you think cause he doesn't know shit. He's paid to make you think he knows but half the shit he says is complete bullshit and the inherent half is middleschool science
Niel's greatest issue is ability to be condescending and I doubt he even realizes he is doing it. Dude gets so excited about his arguements thst he sounds hostile toward the other person. When someone tells you something they believe in snd you laugh because you disagree, that other person has checked out of the conversation after that.
he acts like he already knows everything about everything and that there's nothing that could possibly be discovered in the future that would disprove what we believe to be fact today
As cool as it would ultimately be to be able to have a convo with Neil, it would be equally infuriating with him constantly cutting me off before I got my thought completely out lol
Yeah, and when you share something that you heard and want clarification, first you have to listen to him be condescending and laugh at you before he tells you the real deal... I dunno man, kinda comes off as an arrogant dick.
I think he would not cut you off so much if you were both talking on the same train of thought, and also he is on a show here where he is expected to talk about things and put on a show
That broke my heart 😔 I didn’t need him to say that to know it. I can only imagine the road he’s walked. I hated when Neil was abrasive with him. Neil is undoubtedly intelligent, but it’s clear to me he lacks emotional intelligence; and the person who was most polite was Violent J. I bet he’s very empathetic and it’s probably why he’s got a beautiful gf/wife.
@@PneumaNoose Well said. That's what everyone is really trying to point out. Big intellect having a big ego is no suprise, it's the lack of self awareness and social/emotional intelligence (or worse, a disregard for it) that I think bothers most ppl. It's also quite an indictment on his intellect to be either so oblivious to those character flaws, or to not care to address them at all. Arrogance really can blind side n undermine the intellect/mind - ironic that he mentions how easily our minds can be fooled, but is seemingly ignorant to the fact that our own hubris is just as (if not more) powerful than any sensory illusion. Most highly intelligent ppl are also highly self aware, as at minimum u need to be aware of ur own internal bias n blind spots. Being in touch with ur fallibility helps to account for that. It all feels very self indulgent and egotistical - his need to assert/display his intellectual dominance/superiority over anyone at all, let alone a much less educated performing artist who's just genuinely curious. Most intellectuals and academics, especially those accomplished in their field, know they're smart and don't feel the need to showcase it to other ppl. In fact many will downplay it. That's a skill in itself - knowing you're audience and how to communicate/resonate with them. Simply bullying ppl intellectually, by being rude and abrasive, without actually trying to inform/satisfy their curiosity (talking TO someone as opposed to talking WITH them) is, at best, self indulgent. Dude needs to wake tf to his character defects, and stop leaning/building on his media persona. Or just read the comments lol. I feel like it started with all his appearances on Colbert, blowing smoke up Neil's arse to play the ignoramus, so he can get in depth answers. Neil loves telling ppl shit he knows, like any good teacher. But what he loves more than that, is arguing/shutting down ppl who have half baked ideas/opinions about things, which is NOT something a good teacher does. A good teachers walks ppl through their idea, with patience, and illustrates just how and why it's (probably) wrong. Doesn't just patronise them, full of condescension and contemptuous arrogance. He could've indulged Js ideas/thoughts/questions and actually had a constructive conversation, instead of the destructive monologue that was. Apologies for the rant. That's ALL my thoughts on it lol. End.
@@bvdek I agree with everything you’ve said. As an example, my bf is one of the smartest people I know, and he knows it. His brain and confidence is what attracted me to him in the first place to even pursue a relationship with him. However, the thing that stole my heart was his extreme emotional intelligence toward other people. Sometimes he can get frustrated with people who aren’t on his level, but he always calms himself down and realizes his position and potential to help. I don’t know when this podcast actually aired but I’ve seen much better behavior from Neil in other interviews lately. I think he’s learning how to be more empathetic which is exactly what we all want to see. And I’ve seen him admit his faults in other interviews as well which his always a great quality. I think Neil has the potential to positively influence people on big scales and I hope he continues to fine tune his empathy. As someone whose emotional intelligence is perhaps her best quality, I always remind my boyfriend that his academic intelligence comes with responsibility; and he definitely rises to the challenge. We make a phenomenal team with our advocacy work and as a couple in general. I think Neil needs him an emotionally intelligent wife LOL.
@@PneumaNoose good stuff, glad to hear he's aware of it. Agreed, he could, and already has, done a lot of good. I was probably a bit harsh about it. That sounds pretty cool - complimentary relationships paradoxically always seem the healthiest, strongest and most 'productive'. Good onya :D
@@PneumaNoose"the road he's walked..." the guy has and has had every opportunity in the world to further his education, which he should do if it bothers him. If you want to tell me he's mentally handicapped then you might have a point, and judging by the music he's produced since I was a potty mouthed squirt, he may very well be.
Me too. I'm afraid he doesn't. In the absence of an explainer I'll quote Feynman who said if he tried to explain even a rubber band in the way he understood it, it wouldn't make any sense to you.. But in short it's electronic.
It's a problem because there are simple ways to explain it and a very steep ramp that goes up to actual ways to mathematically explain it with calculus physics equations and theory. All the ways to explain it work and are good but some are frankly out of reach of the typical person such as myself. But, at least I know that those other super high level explanations exist and basically how they are used to understand magnets. It's nothing to brag about for me.@@rumibumi9296
I love this whole janitor thing you reference Neil deGrasse Tyson because that's exactly who pointed out the cryogenic coffin at nasa to my father who worked at nasa for 14 years
I feel like this was a missed opportunity. It would have been so much more interesting if Neil would have engaged with or let J talk instead of just dismissing him
Was trying to get the lady to talk really hard tho. Almost as if he has a PR crew in his head telling him it will make him look better to be inclusive.
@@ForgingMindset I had a similar thought. I used to really like/respect NDT and Bill Nye, but since they've become a woke crusaders, it's really turned me off. Just give me science, leave your wokeness at the door.
Not really a missed opportunity. J couldn't get a coherent thought out of his mouth and when he finally could ask Niel a question, it was a moronic question.
When J said "I knew I wouldn't make any difference to you" and Neil didn't respond to that, that's when I knew, and EVERYONE knew Neil was having a conversation with himself and no one else
😂 i think anyone who didn't listen to what Niel was trying to explain why time doesn't change from your perspective completely missed an educational moment and is likely still clueless on how time works
Clearly Niel travels through time at a much faster rate than everyone else which is why other people's voices can't get to him, so he starts talking about other things before people can finish what they're saying
@@dynamicdingus makes sense. do u think his relative time differential is due to his moving so fast, or how dense he is? Ppl put too much weight/gravity on what he says 😂
Why? The dude is more open to real information than any believer I have ever seen. Bro was utterly enthralled with Neil. To include Neil dimissing one of the reason for his belief and you can hear off camera someone say, "can you believe this guy?" followed by J saying that he is right though. He was actually listening and not blatantly dismissing cause of his own beliefs.
@@BeaverThomas Your loss bro enjoy your ignorance you know I had the same mentality when I heard Lil Peep had passed on but everyone made such a big deal I checked out his music and he is literally all that I listen to now. ICP put out some amazing music so has twizted, ESHAM and so many other Juggalo rappers.
“A wise man holds his tongue. Only a fool blurts out everything he knows; that only leads to sorrow and trouble. A fool thinks he needs no advice, but a wise man listens to others.”
Reminds me of: A fool believes he's clever.. a wise man knows he's a fool. Also.. If you can't explain something simply, with clarity, you don't understand it.
"The only thing to do with good advice is to pass it on. It is never of any use to oneself." - Oscar Wilde "In today’s environment, hoarding knowledge ultimately erodes your power. If you know something very important, the way to get power is by actually sharing it." - Joseph Badaracco "Sharing knowledge is a charity of knowledge that constitutes the ways of a beautiful life." - Ehsan Sehgal "Disseminating knowledge is the human duty, sharing it about so that all can benefit." - Tracy Rees "In the social age, knowledge is only powerful if you share what you know." - Charles Helen Robinson
I honestly feel J understood Neil. J might only have a 9th grade education but he has a grasp on reality more than others actually think. You know he still respects that man more than anything.
Marxist education system is trash so are professors. They don't teach shit and I guarantee most society is better off doing their own research on Everything. Basically have far as the fundamentals okay reading writing and arithmetics though three thousand plus year old tablets have been found with better math formulas than is being taught currently.
@@benjohnson4810 Perhaps in a business and street sense.. Neil deff has his strengths in science, and not much else, but he could always prove me wrong.. Neil is pretty informative no matter how hogging he is on any microphone.. Whoop Whoop!
Also some of Neil's arguments are oversimplified and wrong - for example, convergent evolution can explain why organisms without similar DNA might resemble each other. That's high school level knowledge.
Soon as Neil walked in, J knew the magnets question was coming
imagine neil having a conversation with anyone other than neil.
Look at him talking down to Violent J like he's stupid and can't understand his overly intelligent conversation.
He has a very narrow window of intelligence, with 0 common sense. He's basically the Bill Nye of physics. A far far departure from his predecessors like Carl Sagan and Leonard Susskind..
Neil's chemistry with Neil is amazing as always.
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does he not believe in aliens at all or just that they have never visited earth? if he dont believe in aliens then I have some questions
he talks fast sometimes to give people less time to retort. hes a dick. governments have the power to keep secrets. theres a reason jfk papers were withheld lol thats more important of a secret than a presidential BJ lol
@@weedthepeople2795 It's hard to get through to a lot of scientific minds when it comes to this subject.
The problem is these people are "realists" and they prefer data so they're not going to entertain the alien talk. I empathize with their scepticism but their scepticism does go a little too far.
You'd have to have an alien body right in front of a guy like this in order to make them believe
@@JosephFuckinStalin Yes its REALLY hard to convince people of something with zero evidence. calling someone a "realist" because theyre a scientist means nothing. theres literally no proof of aliens having visited earth but TONS of scientists will entertain the idea that aliens exist. Theres even astrobiologists. legit 130 IQ people dedicating their careers to the prospect of alien life. and they would KILL to have one in front of them. you say believe like it means more than physical evidence. faith doesnt get us iphones and GPS. Neil doesnt need it in front of him. He would gladly believe in those alien bodies if at least a few respected scientists in their respective fields gave the thumbs up. but that has yet to happen. ever.
Violent J is to Faygo as a Horse is to a Barn!
Shout-out from Wyandotte, Del Ray, Lahser Crew, All of Downriver and Duncanville, TX.!
Not gonna lie, I'm impressed as hell that J was really curious, interested, and engaged in the conversations. Wish more people were curious.
He shows the level of intelligence of a lot of people in this country. Can you imagine the wild shit he believes when others aren't there to correct him?
@@gwolf9642 yea but at least he's willing to engage and learn. Adding to your comment about general American intelligence, I think most people are willfully ignorant. Whereas here, there's an attempt to learn.
his whole popularity is based off him asking how do magnets work. ofc hes curious
@@Dismal626 MAGNETS lmao jfc now i cant get that meme out of my head
I wish Neil had let him talk more lol
Nice, another great Neil podcast starring Neil D. Tyson, introducing special guest Neil D. Tyson with your host, Neil D. Tyson!
Ha, I so relate to Neil, when I am excited about something I tend to just babble on way too much.. I try to let others talk and have got better over time, but yeah.. it's a struggle
@@thecasualflyI'm like that when I talk about music I like.
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@@thecasualfly im like that when im talkin about science or video games
Bro is smart and all but he really likes to hear himself talk
Never in a thousand years did I think id see a podcast with Neil & violent j. I was amazed this isn't fake, lol. Super dope though!
The one thing violent j isn't, is fake, Well maybe that beef with Eminem.
I wanna smoke with both of them. That would some fucking conversations yeah buddy.
@commodoresixfour7478 that feud boosted sales and popularity for all 3 of them. If it weren't for a simple flyer and some paintballs that beef would have never happend and neither side would have made money off it.
Ignorant
Some could say....2 Dope?! Lol
never heard of violent j but i love the guy hes great !
We never got to how magnets work.
Must mean they're miracles like ICP said 😂
10:00
It's crazy how many people miss the entire meaning of that song over 1 or 2 lines in it. The song is so much more than that.
No, just that J doesn't understand the simple understanding of magnetism.
But that's it tho "If I don't understand or if I'm not smart enough to understand what it is, it must be God"
Or it's most likely that you just don't have the understanding. "Simple" people are why there is so much religion and for that.
Go read some books.
@@dannygreen592 go learn some manners. No need to insult an internet stranger to get your point across. I do read books. I'm well informed on the nature of physics, fundamental forces, and arguments to philosophically dismantle religious opposition to science. I already knew all about the dangers of using "god" to explain our ever-shrinking areas of ignorance. Read my comment again: I used the laugh emoji to convey my statement "Must mean they're miracles" _was a joke_ because _of course_ simply not covering it in one TH-cam video cannot be considered evidence for throwing away an entire field of physics.
Next time you think about insulting an internet stranger to get your point across, take a break, touch some grass, and think about how you can do better.
Ohgawddamm.
Did you even listen to the song? Your missing the entire point
The aircraft J was talking about was a Hiller flying platform made by the US Navy in the 1940's that used two 44 horsepower (33 kW) Nelson H-59 piston engines, coupled to the propellers by a modified helicopter transmission built by the Industrial Power Division of Hall-Scott. It did fly!.. But it was obviously very loud and extremely dangerous to operate so the project was discontinued.
I believe the reference to something like a "Flying Guillotine" in the official report was the reason it ended... yikes!
Is that the same one that used insect or beetle wings??
It's been done with Beetle wings it's been done with electromagnetism there's at least three different versions all using the same principles fundamentally.
I love how Tyson talks about Clinton's junk but doesn't bother to bring up the EpiPen situation that was covered up for how long with enough cash and force you can keep just about anything secret for as long as you want. Well not from magnetoception or the natural instincts you've been trained to ignore through public school indoctrination.
That magnetception, aka 6th sense is what detects entanglement between electrons which fill empty space. At least inside the heliosphere that envelopes around the solar system from the sun. I was referring more to what Tyson's friends would call the quantum foam.
Thank you for clarifying. It was going to drive me crazy until I found out the situation :) - leifo
@@ultimatesunrise The propeller was actually *"Aracknidic" in Nature... [* word I created]
Regardless of what you think of the guy, you have to respect that J at least doesn't get mad when he's being told his thought process is wrong.
I mean he admits he only has a ninth grade education, he's got to know that he might be wrong about some things, which means he is intelligent and an objective thinker in that regard. But sometimes it's easier for some people to simplify things you don't have to think further about in order to get through life. I have great respect for Violent J as an artist and what he has accomplished, and even moreso when he was confronted with a contradictory perspective to his beliefs but didn't shout it out as being wrong. That's a true level of intelligence, to be open to new knowledge but to also approach with skepticism and a need for verification, just as NDT did when shown the alien footage.
I mean why would that make anyone mad if they are being genuine ?
cuz generally when you effectively attempt to debunk someone's religious beliefs to their face, they kind of aren't ready to accept that, and get defensive.
When you're nearly always wrong, you get used to it.
Thats because mr violent clown doesnt understand how blankin' childish he really is ,he lacks any real depth of self awareness=violent j is a cartoon menace while Mr. Tyson speaks as an adult.
Neil says “ask a question and let me talk over your question before you finish it to tell you why you’re wrong.” 😂😂
100% dead ass - leifo
Neil De-Interrupting-Grass Tyson
While he screams at the top of his voice like a child
Neil is one of the most ignorant "scientists" out there. His ego will never let him consider any other viewpoint other than his own.
@@L8-APEXyou are wrong. Neil is an amazing science educator,it’s just that when J starts to make a dumbass point Neil has heard that shit so many times that he cuts them off cuz he understands their position… maybe a bit rude, but his job is to educate people… not let them believe insane shit.
niel ran the conversation. violent j is awesome for keeping his cool .
I thought violent jay was asking how they found something so small in the ocean a vast space, then neil starts describing how something is round.
cause Jim asked 'how they were perfectly round' at the same time Jay asked 'how they can find something that small in the ocean. '
also... after Neil answered Jims question, Jim tried to remind Neil about Jays question but it was never answered. I respect Neil but I hate how he jumps around, interrupts, and loves to hear himself talk. I still watch him though so i dunno
@@Justin-vr5zn yeah i have a feeling he has ADHD
@@Justin-vr5zn Hard to take an idiot in clown makeup seriously.....
Magnets.
I love how enamored violent J is with this entire encounter
Haven't watched yet. But did violent j finally find out how magnets work?
@@CHurn-vh8pz Nope. Still just a miracle.
J just found out what it's like to meet you hero and find out he's an asshole.
He needs to figure out how to talk with those shits in his mouth! Lmao
@@CurbsidePharmacist69facts
Mr Tyson spoke in an imprecise manner about life expectancy. We aren't living longer. What we are doing is not dying earlier.
There were old people in antiquity. A much greater number of old people today.
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I didn't appreciate ICP until my 30s. Thank you, ICP, for showing perseverance and hard work can get you where you want to be. It's inspiring and I respect you guys.
Truuu. It's not the music it's the culture. They brought a Lotta ppl together
I lost my appreciation for ICP when I was no longer a child and realized alot of their music caters to pedophiles and mistreatment of children.
Lol I had every album when I was like 12. Now I don't enjoy them as much. Still respect the hustle though
Every ICP person ive met with a hatchet man tattoo were the dumbest humans I have ever met. And I work in corrections.
Same here…Only recently at 35 have I really started getting into them and realizing what I’d been missing out on all these years because I believed you couldn’t like ICP and Eminem both…Now Em acts like a whiny, anti-American libtard.
u can slowly see violent j being crushed finding out neil isnt as cool as he thought he was
True
Could see him start realizing hes kinda douche baggy.
Wonder what Tysons face would look like holding all that dialogue back… prob implode or something
Yeah J seemed kind of disappointed as the interview progressed.
@@JarethGT its like he knew he was getting dismissed, but i mean, thats what his whole life was about and making music about that same shit and being different. he seem like a good dude clown paint and crazy thoughts and all. but yet we jus witnessed in real time everything they been talkn bout for 20 plus years
J is just so mesmerized and interested, love this
My guess is Neil lost a lot of respect for the way he threw around absolutes about everything.
@@eclassfb9335 it looks more like everyone else lost respect for Neil interjecting, talking over, and belittling everybody.
I love how genuine J is, he's always been a fan of this sort of thing and he's just hanging on every word Neil is saying. I'm sure he knows alot himself but just the humble mindset to let Neil go on about it and genuine interest.
Violent j seems like a very patient person 😂 which I condone and thats awesome although I feel like deep down inside he was getting irritated with getting talked over by Neal. Either way this was a great episode.
It takes a lot to make J stop talking. Like he said, he's a fan of NDT. I think what was irritating him was NDT's seemingly condescending manner.
@@TheDarkSidePoetNDT is more of an intellectual clown than J is an actual clown.
@@michiganrockso many normies don't know what neil was doing here... fucking nuts dude. Dude is out of control
WHO WOULDNT!? Neil may be a brilliant whoever, whatever, but good lord hes also overbearing & rude. The first does not give you the right to be the other!
Don't give the other persona chance to finish their sentences, then ramble some bullshit over the top of them. Seems to work well for him I guess
Neil did agree that magnets function is, in fact, a miracle lol
At 10:15, Violent J asks Neil a question and as Neil says "yeah" Violent J makes a face and it lines up perfectly together and makes it look like Violent J is the one saying "yeah" 😂
Comment of the day! 😂
lol !
It looks like he's reading Neil's line off a teleprompter and acting it out, like, playing Neil's part right in front of him 😂
The guy in the basket was a US Army guy trying to prove a concept as the Army wanted a device that an ordinary soldier can control the device, flew because of propellors under his feet. It was unstable but a soldier with great balance could keep it airborne. They wanted hundreds of these soldiers to be transported into battle. It existed but didn't work well enough to actually be used.
I was about to comment on that. At 55 Ive been around long enough to remember that device and others like the jet packs developed in the 60s that only had a flight time of like 30 seconds.
People today are still developing non vehicle one man flight systems though. Theyve come a long way. I think the best option has been the jet wing that can be worn like a back pack. The creator of that is South American I believe as Ive seen video of him flying around that giant Jesus statue.
my great uncle paul hill was the main designer/ inventor of that gadget, he wrote a book: U.nconventional F.lying O.bjects by ; Paul Hill
Love you Violent J! You shaped my childhood and helped me get through tough times. Big hugs from Oregon!
I grew up watching inner city posse (before insane clown) shows locally in Detroit. Harpos ect. ect... Love the music. This interview however makes it seem that He doesn't have even a highschool diploma. Why were these men put in the same room together? Sssstupid
Glad you didn't shoot up a school! Noice.
@@ClarkPotter Most of the people shooting up schools are Christians or some other form of Abrahamic faith. Which is exactly why they scream at every chance they can to blame everything but their piss poor life styles.
Wait what
You at least known what a magnet is though right
Violent J's book, Behind the Paint, is an interesting read. The audiobook version is even better, because it's fully narrated by Violet J himself, and he can really paint a picture. Dude has lived a pretty wild life.
I might check that out sounds interesting. Thanks for recommending it 👊🏻✌🏻
Lol that's a great recommendation
Thanks - gonna check it out. First heard ICP at age 13 and just passed them on to my 13 yo son who has coincidentally just developed his love for reading.
You guys can find the book, I'm just warning you. It's kind of expensive. I don't know if they didn't print it very long or what? But my copy was like somewhere between 60 & 80.
Here, y'all. Someone uploaded the audiobook to TH-cam.
Part 1 - th-cam.com/video/q1IQnRX3024/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CNmODBjcMycdgrLd
Part 2 - th-cam.com/video/ffWegdlu5ts/w-d-xo.htmlsi=k_uioX2i1JCnLe_r
I just wish Neil could fight that urge to give a second of not talking and the instant a sound comes out of someone's mouth, he interrupts over and over. It would be so much more interesting with some back and forth and not just him saying the same things he's said for decades
I agree. I respect him a lot but he could be having higher quality conversations.
Hes horrible I saw him libe once and he just likes hearing his own voice
Hes too passionate about teaching. That's all it is.
@@buzzkillodium hes to passionate about lecturing. Teachers let their students work out the ideas. if the student is wrong, they may correct them, or show them where they misunderstand, but violent J says "the only way to fuck with time is gravity" and Neil says "no!" and then explains how gravity directly influences the perception of time.. all before Violent J could continue his thought.
@@Robb1977 nothing wrong with that
i love how you could see 90's J pop up right in that last minute or so. That was beauty, total Duke of the wicked s**t right there.
I would love to see Neil's face when he starts listening to ICP!
Love it when people talk over each other.
People? Or just Neil, lol
Violent j is a madman, love him!!
Perfect perfect to explain how magnets work!
i swear to god i've never heard j talk and ever been bored. not an icp fan but that there is a solid dude and complete sweetheart.
Its not a swing set let it go...
I absolutely love seeing Violent J star struck by Neil. Best podcast guest lineup ever!
Did you feel like Niel was being unnecessarily Rude to Violent J though, "Hey I'm a big fan" and proceeds to get insulted and laughed at over and over. Not an ICP fan but felt bad for the guy.
@@tabletophobbystop nope don't be so sensitive.
@@tabletophobbystop
Yes, but he’s “unnecessarily rude” to anyone he can talk over.
Violent J and Neal T should have a longer interview. Just when things start to get up and running they run out of time . Would like to see a longer amount of time spent with these two guys.
Neal is a prick and won't have a balanced conversation with anyone. His ego is to infinity...and beyond
I'm guilty of poking fun at Neil's expense. He is very passionate about science,knowledge and learning, and it never seems to matter who he's speaking to.
J should take him out behind stage of a show, and then during one song put him up on a stage, have him throw faygo bottles
More like this. I highly enjoyed every second of it.
This is the a great youtube vid for history! Whoop! Whoop! This should be done AGAIN but allow Violent Jay more time to present his inquiries. Also, with shaggy and Bill Nye!!! Violent J, and Neil thank you!! I was left very curious to what Violent J's questions were. Please revisit.
whoop whoop! that would be pretty dope to have Bill, J, Shaggy, and Neil all in the same interview!
I love that he seems to have touched those who may have gone through life without asking themselves questions about the universe (and didn't just hear or make up a fanciful belief). I saw lightbulbs go off (or is it on lol) in J's head a couple times.
For those that don’t know, Violent J is a huge nerd and loves this type of stuff.
I'm a big fan of psychopathic records, it's a shame that people judge these guys by their stage appearances and not by how they actually live their real lives. They're just regular Joe's like you and me, and more intelligent and down-to-earth than people think. You could tell in the video as well that he is very very interested in the conversation, and I was actually pleased to hear that violent j is a fan of Mr Tyson!
😂 you know.... ❤
He stated himself he has a 9th grade education. Just because you enjoy overthinking things and discussing certain topics does not make you a nerd.
@@jamesrigg4389 Their fans can be a little much. Went to high school with a bunch of them. I was pretty friendly with them though, some even actual friends.
@@hollenfeuer1 agreed, just like other genres, you got the bad seeds too
This is the best. We need more of these two together. It's absolute gold.
Violent J says it all with his facial expressions at the end.
Me too,Neil totally didn't get where j was coming from with talking about God
@user-ye5qs5hi9f Just because we don't know how something works, doesn't mean it's rational to just insert God. Humans have a long history of being corrected by science on something they didn't understand, so they thought it was supernatural, and then it turned out to not be supernatural. And humans are going to keep being wrong about things they don't understand in the future, because they need to grasp at straws in order to cope with the fact that we still have no evidence for a god or the supernatural.
Neil is a really interesting guy, it would be cool to hear him have a conversation with someone
I am surprised Neil didnt giggle, wagging his head side to side, on his way towards the door... As King Crimson once said . . . The fate of all mankind I see is in the hands of fools. Every word out of Neils mouth rattles the 17 brain cells interviewing him.
…because him talking with an entire room of people here in this video wasn’t exactly that?
@NorthernChev you are correct, it was not that. He should let them finish their train of thought.
@@NorthernChevread me
@@jorgec2233oh, absolutely. Tyson interrupts constantly in almost all forums he's in. If he's not talking he's pissed and will make sure everyone knows it.
Best moment: 10:16 when Neil channels his voice through the clown guy 😂
Hahaha, it's like Niel conjured up his telepathic ventriloquist talents with Violent J non the wiser.
Lmfao I can’t stop clicking your time stamp. It’s like he’s burping LOL
Very odd...😅
Hahahah good catch 😂
Neil not giving Violent J a frickin *second* to talk
Neil loves himself some Neil.
1. He does that to everyone.
2. Who actually wants to hear Violent J speak? The guy is as intelligent as a rock.
@thomasjones4570 NDT Fanboy, defending him for being a dick by saying, YEAH HES ALWAYS LIKE THAT TOO EVERYONE!!! and promptly insulting the other person, no matter who it is. 😂 I see these comments so much.
@@SwayzeKobain420 Neil is a pompous jerk, but your comment fails to deny that Violent J is, in fact, as intelligent as a rock.
He does the same to Rogan
I would love to see a full podcast of these 2. The 20min wasn’t enough.
I was expecting sonething sooo different! I truly wish he would have let Violent Jay speak about why he believes in God. I have faith in God myself and it is refreshing to know that someone you wouldn't expect (violent j) does as well. He kept cutting him off from speaking about it every time he tried.
neil worships himself, so the idea of God is offensive to him.
The original 6th jokers card was all about them believing in God. "The carnival is God and may all juggalos find him."
"We're not sorry if we tricked you, we don't care what happens now."@@WiKKiDiKKiW
Yes Neil is a atheist so self worship. He lost all credibly as a scientist not long ago with a post talking about how a man can become a woman and vise versa. I wonder how much the left paid him to lie. Every scientist knows he lied. Even him. A sellout to his own profession.
That’s how we made lead shot that goes into shotgun shells at Winchester. You drip the lead out of small holes and drop it inside the shot tower which is about 10 stories high and 5 stories under the ground. It cooled as it dropped into water and a conveyor belt brought the shot to the surface for sizing and distribution to the shot shell maker
The intern was the smartest person in the room
Lol
NDT looks so annoyed when he’s not the one talking lol😂
I really wanted to hear J's thoughts about God but Neil never shuts up!
For real I don't necessarily agree with all the stuff Jay says but I want to hear him out
Real $hit homie
It wouldn’t have been profound. No one on earth could make any profound reason about god, or why one thinks a god is real let alone “violent j” 😂. As far as anyone knows, it’s an unknown topic, that’s unfalsifiable as far as anyone ever has tried. Guarantee it would be the same run of the mill pondering. It was far better for violent j to listen I think. Why do you believe a god is real? Cuz rainbows and cool looking stuff, or cuz stuff had to be made it’s so intricate etc. etc. Neil would be left saying, cool story bro…
@adrianmetzler2523 cool story bro
And he keeps interrupting him every few seconds
10:20 He's probably talking about the Williams Aerial Systems Platform or the Williams X-Jet.
I think J was talking about Viktor Grebennikov. This was a very strange person who thought a species of beetle in Russia didn't fly but defied gravity. He built some anti-gravity scooter thing using the wing covers of this beetle. Very cool story. But I don't remember there being a video of it. If someone finds what he's talking about, could you link it for me?
Isn't it a little bit curious that "some guy in his garage" is who magically discovers all these miracles that no one can reproduce? Isn't it odd that megacorporations aren't taking over the world using this tech? Why can't the military figure it out? WHY is it always just "some guy"?
It was a real meeting of the mind.
Neil and J should have their own reality tv show where they both live together in a small apartment.
I'd watch it.
You'd have to "mute" sooner or later 😂
Probably the dumbest comment I've seen in a while
Something along the lines of 'Kenny VS Spenny'?
J surprised alot of people here. I've been listening to him since 97 and it's great to see people understanding him. I knew they were gonna bring up the magnets thing 😂 brilliant
Lmao "and he'll Sabu yo moma through a coffee table" 😂
Hearing Violent J claim magnets are the reason for aliens to Neil..... my life is complete
@ 13:12 He's talking about levitation using beetles. Some guy found that Egyption beetles hover around, and they never run into anything. So the guy makes a box, puts it on the table, and it shoots off the table. He said he uses the same tech as the egypt bugs use. Which has to do with some kind of shape that their wings are. The guy had a long handle on a soap box, and it was "levitating". The guys died or something though and his work was taken.
the comment i was looking for! thanks for the insight but do you know guy's name?? lol. Update: NVM! his name is Viktor Grebennikov!
Neil would be fascinating if he let anybody else finish a single thought.
Never gonna happen. Ever.
i think he get the thought before the sentence is done
@@foetalmonsieur yeah, that may be true, but what a terrible conversationalist. He may hear the thesis, but people have more to say than a general thought. How could you ever get to know somebody’s actual perspective if you don’t let them finish any of their dialogue?
i love him, idk why all the hate on him. hes passionate af thats why he cant control himself.
Sure. But Neil was invited as an expert beyond their own knowledge. Sure, if this was a debate I'd see your argument as completely valid. But Neil was defending facts. Many of the "points" the others brought up, were here say at best. This whole episode is so disjointed that J ( high af mind you) looked shocked and embarrassed. I dunno, but I think perhaps I watched a different show than everyone else 🤷 possible I reckon. (It's not. Lol facts are facts not arguable and un proven theories and concepts which are definitely up for debate)
@11:00, I think he is referring to the Williams WASP. There were two built, and utilize a turbine engine to fly that was developed for cruise missile applications. The gyroscopic motion of the engine kept it stable. One is on display at Wright-Patterson Air Force Museum today. No magnets.
th-cam.com/video/AvmrKJl_K3Y/w-d-xo.html
Also known as the "x-jet"
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_X-Jet
My dad was involved with it way back when. @@MoreEffinCowbell
I'm pretty sure he's talking about Viktor Grebennikov.
wow.. look at this high quality video, excellent sound, and multiple camera setup.. it would be a real shame if you were capturing this much footage every day but almost never releasing it or posting it on social or doing anything useful with it.. real shame indeed
Neil keeps telling the woman to talk and ask questions so he can stroke his intellect further, but as soon as she opens her mouth to say anything, he just talks over her anyway 😂
Even Neil must be mildly impressed by how cute she is😅
Facts
I know what J was talking about, the guy's name was Viktor Grebennikov. He supposedly created an anti gravity flying machine using the wings of a weird beetle he found in the wild. The inner and outer wings of the beetle will levitate under certain circumstances, which is actually real. The flying machine itself is more controversial.
No, he's not, because a very notable point about Grebennikov is that there was no footage of his machine working
He wasn't? Pretty sure there's only one story floating around about a guy who makes a flying machine out of insect wings. I don't know if you bothered to actually read my comment, or listened to the part of the podcast I was referring to. J was trying to put a name onto a story he heard somewhere, and couldn't produce it.
And sure, there's no evidence that the machine ever actually worked, it's preposterous. But the smaller scale experiments with the beetle wings are documented and are true.
Mr deGrasse Tyson the ball is in your court. We got the alien in the town square for all to see. 😂
I'd rather just heard an interview with Violent J.
Agreed. Ngt interviews are a dime a dozen, and all boring af. Honestly I can't have alot of respect for anyone that has him on and treats him like a legitimate scientist, or even pop culture icon. He's a Bill nye for adults who still admire Bill nye...
Bill "nigh" a scientist...lol
@@leekelley4701If you think listening to Neil is "boring af" then I have to believe that it's because you just don't understand science. The dude is an amazing science educator, yes, just like Bill Nye was before him (and somewhat continues to be). Both Nye and Tyson have an awesome talent for distilling incredibly complex scientific concepts down to a level anyone can understand. Highly underrated skill.
@@_MADAMIMADAM_They are both morons. They are wrong on a ton of subjects. Bill's degree is in mechanical engineering. Tyson's is in astrophysics. They should shut up about covid & climate change.
@@_MADAMIMADAM_he has joker in his username. What did you expect lol
@@TheTeaNinja Not much. And I got it. 😉
Seeing Sam years ago as an intern on O&A and seeing what's his body has aged into is bewildering
Always nice to see Russell Wilson's dad
I would have more respect for Neil if he actually gave a hint of respect to the people trying to convey a question. I was so embarrassed watching Degrasse not giving a care in the world for other peoples questions especially violent J trying so hard to get his point across to deaf ears 👂
Tyson is nothing more than a jerkoff media shill. J is a LEGEND.
hes very good at creating a narrative where he has appears to have all the answers and can not deal with anyone calling him out
Neil is a narcissist. It's common with people with high IQ
He's a prick. And of course the Government can keep a secret. It's easy, it's called compartmentalization. If you have 2000 people making a nuclear weapon but you tell each one that they're making this certain part or piece and that's all they need to know, and you pay them well, and no one except a handful of people know the entire project/secret, then congratulations, secrets are kept.
@@thephatjesus3032 I think he just lacks self awareness, but there is probably some narcissism with his conviction to science and seeing things black and white
I love how Sam Robert’s started chuckling when Neil started talking about moon rocks. 😂
It feels like Neil is so in love with his own intellect, that he has a hard time letting anyone else finish a sentence without trying to finish it for them. Interesting video all the same
100%
Ya, he’s really the only one in the room worth listening to 😅
@@cstepaniuk8611 "if you're the smartest person in the room, then you're in the wrong room."
I sense he quite enjoys being the smartest person in a room, and goes out of his way to assert/display it to everyone.
the respect of both parties is awesome this right here is amazing
I would gladly watch a six hour interview with Violent J and Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Never thought I’d see it lol. but Violent J actually seems like a chill dude
Honestly, not sure it would last that long...
Why? You'd just be watching Neil DeGrasse Tyson ask a Violent J a question and then as soon as J started to respond Tyson would just cut him off and ramble on for the next 45 minutes. This entire exchange was annoyingly disrespectful.
What are you gay? That sounds awful lol.
@@PlutoniumSlumsyou never seen him talk about proof and ending the Eminem beef
I love Sam’s look at Jim when Neil says “Moon Rocks”
I do a lot of deliveries to military bases and I can't count the amount of times I've stumbled into areas with my phone where phones weren't allowed with no consequences 😂
Peace time State side military bases can be very lax depending on the base. Just like anywhere else, look like you belong there and have something to do you will rarely be questioned. Just don't be the guy who wanders to near to something they sensitive about. (A nuclear reactor or something like that). You will find that the lackadaisical attitude can change really fast and now you are looking down the barrel of a rifle being held by a scared 19 year old kid who doesn't know if you are a lost delivery guy or you are a terrorist trying to infiltrate and blow up something valuable.
@@Snipergoat1 that's the other thing; whether it's army or air force bases, I rarely see even side arms on base. Mostly MPs
it's crazy that our whole world is held together by people doing jobs that they generally couldn't care less about lol
@@Llllltryytcc Kinda. But we've got organization to thank for making that principle work. Human psychology is very much a big factor in societal organization. So, since humans will never get out of the way of progress, progress has to be organized in such a way that our nature doesn't snuff it out. It's not perfect, and said processes are sometimes defeated by cunning criminals exploiting precedential loopholes, and that's how we learn and tighten our processes! :-P
@@Llllltryytcctrue
"Big foot wears a wig?" I totally LOLed at this. Great comeback!
The man in the "craft" was scientist Viktor Grebennikov. Pretty sure this is what Violent J is referring to. The craft used the inner wing flaps of a specific beetle's wing which supposedly had a structure on a nanoscale that allows it to defy gravity. Very interesting, but true? I wanna believe, but i dont know.
Do u know the name of the video? Also, do you know by chance? What was he using as proportion or was it just? The wingshape of sad beetle that. was like spinning around like a chopper or something?
Type in his name, and the structure of the wing when magnified under a microscope at like 120x and 400x was like a corrugated surface that manipulates empty space, idk if it had to be activated in any way, he just fastened them underneath this platform and he could tilt it Fwd and Bk. The insane part is that he claimed it could achieve speeds well over 600 mph and he was protected by a gravity well so his attire wouldn't even blow off in the wind...
I'm sure the wing flaps 1. Probably had a charge 2. Could be propelled with an alt. current. But that would require many lbs of equipment. I just don't see this being possible, but then again look at how far advanced some of the greatest minds were compared to the coloquial people of the time, but was ion propulsion possible 60 yrs ago, and also found as a naturally occuring thing? (With a little scientific alteration)
When J was talking about this video I'm sure it's the exact one I saw and what you're talking about, I had it saved on my TH-cam account and is now gone. I have told people about it before and went to show the m the video and it is now gone. I'm sure someone has the video still but youtube has made it obsolete.
I'm going to look up this scientist thanks for your help
So nice of Neil to invite them all onto his podcast
Are you salty about the fact Neil cut through their arguments with common sense and ease?
How could he not overtalk these guy's with their 9th grade level education? The smarter people in the room were the ones that just wanted to listen to what Neil was saying.
He pauses just long enough for someone to start talking just so he can interrupt them. Probably one of the most annoying thing anyone can do. Right or not.
@@mr.mopedmadness3441if you had an attention span longer than a 3 year old you might notice Mr. Tyson is being hammered with multiple questions and inane statements, he's just trying to keep up with a drivel of childish magical believer Nonsense.Mr Tyson is a professional educator with a very high I.Q.while mr violent clown and his homies here are well, basically uneducated clowns who basically behave (and speak) like kids...
@@StephenLewisfulTyson is an idiot….just because u have a degree doesn’t make u smart in REAL life
@@mr.mopedmadness3441 if they were intelligent enough to have anything worth a shit to say then they wouldn't have been interrupted.
The way NDT speaks makes me feel like he is on the gov books. He knows so much he has to help keep secrets.
He is on the books. But not how you think cause he doesn't know shit. He's paid to make you think he knows but half the shit he says is complete bullshit and the inherent half is middleschool science
I love when Neil invites his guests to appear in his TED talk
That is called passion for the work you do.
I wish Neil and J would start a podcast together. I really do believe it would become one of Americas most popular shows over time lol.
Buddy cop movie...no I got it, Detroit P.I buddy cop movie.
Oh ya. Everyone would get up early to listen to sissies in make up.
That could definitely be entertaining
How's that? J would never get a word in.
i would hope they would have an episode about magnets.
Niel's greatest issue is ability to be condescending and I doubt he even realizes he is doing it. Dude gets so excited about his arguements thst he sounds hostile toward the other person. When someone tells you something they believe in snd you laugh because you disagree, that other person has checked out of the conversation after that.
he acts like he already knows everything about everything and that there's nothing that could possibly be discovered in the future that would disprove what we believe to be fact today
As cool as it would ultimately be to be able to have a convo with Neil, it would be equally infuriating with him constantly cutting me off before I got my thought completely out lol
Nailed it
he is a narcissist for sure
Yeah, and when you share something that you heard and want clarification, first you have to listen to him be condescending and laugh at you before he tells you the real deal... I dunno man, kinda comes off as an arrogant dick.
Oh, by the way, by the way....
I think he would not cut you off so much if you were both talking on the same train of thought, and also he is on a show here where he is expected to talk about things and put on a show
needed more violent J! I heard him on "Loveline" sometime in 2002, that is the best episode of that show!
I wish he would have let violent J talk for more than 3 seconds lmao.
Why?
When it was a painful 3 seconds I am glad to have the smarter one who is an astrophysicist educate them.
@@thelaughingfoxx You've got some insecurities you should work through, being overly judgmental is never a good trait
@@robertdowner4057Are you working for Neil or something 😂
You're all over these comments taking up for him. A lover maybe 🤷
No, you don't. Nobody in their right mind would want to hear their dumb-ass opinions.
I love how at the end violent jau looks at neil and says and i got a 9th grade education 🤣
That broke my heart 😔 I didn’t need him to say that to know it. I can only imagine the road he’s walked. I hated when Neil was abrasive with him. Neil is undoubtedly intelligent, but it’s clear to me he lacks emotional intelligence; and the person who was most polite was Violent J. I bet he’s very empathetic and it’s probably why he’s got a beautiful gf/wife.
@@PneumaNoose Well said. That's what everyone is really trying to point out.
Big intellect having a big ego is no suprise, it's the lack of self awareness and social/emotional intelligence (or worse, a disregard for it) that I think bothers most ppl.
It's also quite an indictment on his intellect to be either so oblivious to those character flaws, or to not care to address them at all.
Arrogance really can blind side n undermine the intellect/mind - ironic that he mentions how easily our minds can be fooled, but is seemingly ignorant to the fact that our own hubris is just as (if not more) powerful than any sensory illusion.
Most highly intelligent ppl are also highly self aware, as at minimum u need to be aware of ur own internal bias n blind spots. Being in touch with ur fallibility helps to account for that.
It all feels very self indulgent and egotistical - his need to assert/display his intellectual dominance/superiority over anyone at all, let alone a much less educated performing artist who's just genuinely curious.
Most intellectuals and academics, especially those accomplished in their field, know they're smart and don't feel the need to showcase it to other ppl. In fact many will downplay it. That's a skill in itself - knowing you're audience and how to communicate/resonate with them. Simply bullying ppl intellectually, by being rude and abrasive, without actually trying to inform/satisfy their curiosity (talking TO someone as opposed to talking WITH them) is, at best, self indulgent.
Dude needs to wake tf to his character defects, and stop leaning/building on his media persona. Or just read the comments lol.
I feel like it started with all his appearances on Colbert, blowing smoke up Neil's arse to play the ignoramus, so he can get in depth answers.
Neil loves telling ppl shit he knows, like any good teacher. But what he loves more than that, is arguing/shutting down ppl who have half baked ideas/opinions about things, which is NOT something a good teacher does. A good teachers walks ppl through their idea, with patience, and illustrates just how and why it's (probably) wrong. Doesn't just patronise them, full of condescension and contemptuous arrogance.
He could've indulged Js ideas/thoughts/questions and actually had a constructive conversation, instead of the destructive monologue that was.
Apologies for the rant. That's ALL my thoughts on it lol.
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@@bvdek I agree with everything you’ve said. As an example, my bf is one of the smartest people I know, and he knows it. His brain and confidence is what attracted me to him in the first place to even pursue a relationship with him. However, the thing that stole my heart was his extreme emotional intelligence toward other people. Sometimes he can get frustrated with people who aren’t on his level, but he always calms himself down and realizes his position and potential to help.
I don’t know when this podcast actually aired but I’ve seen much better behavior from Neil in other interviews lately. I think he’s learning how to be more empathetic which is exactly what we all want to see. And I’ve seen him admit his faults in other interviews as well which his always a great quality. I think Neil has the potential to positively influence people on big scales and I hope he continues to fine tune his empathy.
As someone whose emotional intelligence is perhaps her best quality, I always remind my boyfriend that his academic intelligence comes with responsibility; and he definitely rises to the challenge. We make a phenomenal team with our advocacy work and as a couple in general. I think Neil needs him an emotionally intelligent wife LOL.
@@PneumaNoose good stuff, glad to hear he's aware of it. Agreed, he could, and already has, done a lot of good.
I was probably a bit harsh about it.
That sounds pretty cool - complimentary relationships paradoxically always seem the healthiest, strongest and most 'productive'. Good onya :D
@@PneumaNoose"the road he's walked..." the guy has and has had every opportunity in the world to further his education, which he should do if it bothers him. If you want to tell me he's mentally handicapped then you might have a point, and judging by the music he's produced since I was a potty mouthed squirt, he may very well be.
Does anyone have a link ro "the basket guy" ?
I'm about to sit through this whole thing just to see if Neil explains magnets to him.
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No, he won't. Its the fault of science.
Me too. I'm afraid he doesn't. In the absence of an explainer I'll quote Feynman who said if he tried to explain even a rubber band in the way he understood it, it wouldn't make any sense to you.. But in short it's electronic.
@@zxggwrt no, that comes from not understanding it well enough to put it simply.
It's a problem because there are simple ways to explain it and a very steep ramp that goes up to actual ways to mathematically explain it with calculus physics equations and theory. All the ways to explain it work and are good but some are frankly out of reach of the typical person such as myself. But, at least I know that those other super high level explanations exist and basically how they are used to understand magnets. It's nothing to brag about for me.@@rumibumi9296
I love this whole janitor thing you reference Neil deGrasse Tyson because that's exactly who pointed out the cryogenic coffin at nasa to my father who worked at nasa for 14 years
I feel like this was a missed opportunity. It would have been so much more interesting if Neil would have engaged with or let J talk instead of just dismissing him
Was trying to get the lady to talk really hard tho. Almost as if he has a PR crew in his head telling him it will make him look better to be inclusive.
@@ForgingMindset I had a similar thought. I used to really like/respect NDT and Bill Nye, but since they've become a woke crusaders, it's really turned me off. Just give me science, leave your wokeness at the door.
Not really a missed opportunity. J couldn't get a coherent thought out of his mouth and when he finally could ask Niel a question, it was a moronic question.
@@janX9 for the podcast it was. Watching this interaction hurt and your just a daft poo eater
"Government can't keep a secret"
*proceeds to mention the government's biggest secret
Well ..If he's saying It out loud the secret isn't well kept, right?
@@giovaniconte1860 what's inside then
He also mentions things that appear to be contradictions on the surface yet are not contradictions at all.
I like how the guy with clown paint on his face is more polite than Neil Degrasse Tyson.
That's kinda one of the big things in ICPs music besides goofiness and gore, respect and acceptance of different people.
No, Neil is tired of people regurgitating other people stories, without looking into it properly themselves, or collecting little to any data.
“& I have a 9th grade education” 😂
When J said "I knew I wouldn't make any difference to you" and Neil didn't respond to that, that's when I knew, and EVERYONE knew Neil was having a conversation with himself and no one else
😂 i think anyone who didn't listen to what Niel was trying to explain why time doesn't change from your perspective completely missed an educational moment and is likely still clueless on how time works
@@pbnj211 J is way too low IQ to understand relativity.
Clearly Niel travels through time at a much faster rate than everyone else which is why other people's voices can't get to him, so he starts talking about other things before people can finish what they're saying
@@dynamicdingus makes sense. do u think his relative time differential is due to his moving so fast, or how dense he is?
Ppl put too much weight/gravity on what he says 😂
Hearing about aliens being discussed while a 50 something year old man sits there in full face clown makeup and watches on silently is... Surreal.
violent j more wholesome than yourself by this comment lol
Silent J?
Why? The dude is more open to real information than any believer I have ever seen. Bro was utterly enthralled with Neil. To include Neil dimissing one of the reason for his belief and you can hear off camera someone say, "can you believe this guy?" followed by J saying that he is right though. He was actually listening and not blatantly dismissing cause of his own beliefs.
I'm proud to say I've never heard any "music" from ICP.😂
@@BeaverThomas Your loss bro enjoy your ignorance you know I had the same mentality when I heard Lil Peep had passed on but everyone made such a big deal I checked out his music and he is literally all that I listen to now. ICP put out some amazing music so has twizted, ESHAM and so many other Juggalo rappers.
Violent Jay. Bless his heart.
It's not often you get to see Violent J get talked over by someone else. HA HA
Lol whoop whoop
Whoop whoop
He's getting 90's Shaggy'd
Love your tag
Lol😂 no shit!
“A wise man holds his tongue. Only a fool blurts out everything he knows; that only leads to sorrow and trouble. A fool thinks he needs no advice, but a wise man listens to others.”
Reminds me of:
A fool believes he's clever.. a wise man knows he's a fool.
Also..
If you can't explain something simply, with clarity, you don't understand it.
@@bvdek "If you have knowledge, let others light their candles in it."
- Margaret Fuller
"The only thing to do with good advice is to pass it on. It is never of any use to oneself." - Oscar Wilde
"In today’s environment, hoarding knowledge ultimately erodes your power. If you know something very important, the way to get power is by actually sharing it." - Joseph Badaracco
"Sharing knowledge is a charity of knowledge that constitutes the ways of a beautiful life." - Ehsan Sehgal
"Disseminating knowledge is the human duty, sharing it about so that all can benefit." - Tracy Rees
"In the social age, knowledge is only powerful if you share what you know." - Charles Helen Robinson
I honestly feel J understood Neil. J might only have a 9th grade education but he has a grasp on reality more than others actually think. You know he still respects that man more than anything.
Marxist education system is trash so are professors. They don't teach shit and I guarantee most society is better off doing their own research on Everything. Basically have far as the fundamentals okay reading writing and arithmetics though three thousand plus year old tablets have been found with better math formulas than is being taught currently.
J is most likely actually smarter than Neil. Neil seems like an actor to me. I strongly dislike the man now.
Education has little to do with intelligence - J doesn’t need more schooling, Neil could use some old school manners for how to listen.
@@benjohnson4810 Perhaps in a business and street sense.. Neil deff has his strengths in science, and not much else, but he could always prove me wrong.. Neil is pretty informative no matter how hogging he is on any microphone.. Whoop Whoop!
Also some of Neil's arguments are oversimplified and wrong - for example, convergent evolution can explain why organisms without similar DNA might resemble each other. That's high school level knowledge.
Neil has my dream job. How amazing would it be to be able to make a living by talking about your passion everyday.
12:40 So glad Violent J sticks to his faith! Amen bro!