He's very uncomfortable being a presenter. Makes for an awkward video, would rather have James review speakers, I don't know what Dan's day to day duties are but he's better off behind a camera
@@freshfishonly I respectfully disagree. His cadence is fine and he gets the point across like a friend explaining a product to you. If anything I prefer this type of review/unboxing rather than some full of confidence puppet who says whatever pleases the sponsors lol.
Very much this. I have a pair of 7" bookshelves that are absolute beasts (extremis 6.8 drivers) and if you put them in the middle of a room they sound anemic because I designed them to be near-ish to a wall so they have only have ~3dB of baffle step compensation not 6 or more that you'd want for something used in the middle of the room. If you have them near a wall they are basically flat down to 40Hz but when it's out from the wall it drops off a couple octaves higher than that.
I was thinking this too, there are quite a few speakers using this type of design that felt on being placed near a wall of similar backdrop for the bass to be reflected. Another reason that it's actually a good idea to actually look at the manual instead of idiotically throwing it aside. That being said Edifier tends to be known for having fairly low quality overall, so I didn't really expect anything from this plastic pile of $_&#.
This is not some random tech TH-camr doing this in his bedroom closet. He has a whole camera crew and rest of the studio in front of him. If it sounds too bassy like that, it would sound even worse had he wall in front of him.
Stereo makes a massive difference. I bought a google nest audio for the corner of my kitchen bench. I got another a week later and made a stereo pair and put it in the other corner. the sound was more than twice as good in a stereo pair. and probably cost less than this. I see this product being something like a desk/bench/bedside speaker.
Yeah that was my first thought, too. I dont know too many people outside of corporate offices who have their desk floating in the middle of the room. Even outside of Bose, my cheap crappy Logitech speakers benefit from a wall. too.
Dan has a very chaotic mind. The way he speaks, picks things up and sets it back down again. Feeling every knob, nook and cranny of this speaker. It is absolutely wonderful seeing Dan doing a review of this Edifier speaker. Dan is basically that little voice we have in our heads.
I would have tried it with its back facing a wall, maybe that would help with the bass. I have an Akai BT speaker that fires down with the reflex tube, it often feels the superior config, but that also needs a solid surface.
8:30 it's probably because it's supposed to be sitting against a wall and the bass ports would reflect off the wall so that it doesn't feel so empty when listening from the front side. Definitely not made for open air
Only Dan could begin a video by stating "I Dunno if i'm full of worms or not" and have me smashing the like button within the first ten seconds. Please never change Dan!
I'm guessing, as with basically everything that's reflex ported behind itself, that it has a specific distance from a wall or other large flat surface it wants to be (usually mentioned in the manual). The wall reflects the bass around, giving it a larger feel and less directionality. Wouldn't help with a mids scoop though. This was a weird miss for edifier - kind of their entire thing is affordable bookshelf speakers that punch way above their cost. I like the look but with an open grill like that, I'd prefer the tweeter be an AMT and a larger 4 or 6 inch woofer. and maybe send it with some kind of protective cover you could put over the drivers. I like the look of uncovered drivers but am always paranoid. A pair of the hivi swan OS-10's is $150, they're bluetooth, wired, sound amazing. Or the edifier R1280BS for the same.
I feel like you’re supposed to have it against a wall which theoretically would further diffuse and distribute the bass signal. It might not “fix” the audio problems but I think it would likely round out the sound of the speaker a lot more
"It'd be really sick to have a little transparent panel right here. I don't know if I'm full of worms or not." That's the most Dan shit that Dan has ever said.
Have you looked at the Sony HT-AX7? It's touted as a "portable theater system" with detachable satellites that costs $500. For that money, one could buy a Minirig 2.1 setup.
I have 2 sets of Edifiers, a set of R1700BTs' in my bedroom, and a set of R1280DBs' on my PC desk along with an accompanying Dayton SUB800 8" powered sub under the desk..... Both of them sound utterly fantastic, even without a sub, beautiful, rich and pretty flat sound..... those little guys put in work. I initially was set out to buy some Swans D100's for my bedroom, but they were never in stock, so I reluctantly bought the Edifiers because I know they've been highly regarded by some known audio guys.... I was definitely not disappointed 👌 Now while I'm biased due to me owning and thoroughly enjoying 2 sets of Edifiers, and would never buy a standalone BT speaker (ok I lied, I bought one for work when I was driving a forklift that would sit perfectly inside the cupholder, a small UK built BT speaker called a MiniRig, also fantastic), but it seems you're not using this thing in it's intended scenery.... I mean, who listens to a speaker that close? Strange
I've got a pair of R1700BTs as my PC speakers too and they're damn good, on par with my vintage 70s Hi-Fi speakers, absolutely stellar value, they outshine speakers double their price. They look great too.
@@angry_wizard yeah Edifier makes great stuff, I was very surprised with both of my sets sound. I looked on Amazon for this little one reviewed, it seems this guy here is the only one disappointed with it's sound... people have said it's nothing in comparison with Edifier's more focused offers, but for a "single speaker" Bluetooth RGB clock speaker, it sounds great....so after my Edifiers, and the written reviews on this one here, I'm wondering if he wasn't placing it, or himself in a correct manner, location, room size, table ECT (who listens to a speaker that close?) , or it was defective or has already passed through other reviewers hands.... IDK, strange.... I personally wouldn't buy it, I've got a ton of RGB in my PC and behind my desk, but my desk is beautiful, clean simple walnut, and my Edifiers match pretty nicely, I don't want transparent RGB speakers on my desk 😅
Bought the Edifier r1700bt bookshelf speakers to use on my PC years ago. Amazing build quality and sound too! Definitely recommend checking the brand if you're looking for speakers
Even through YT audio compression i think to be able to hear to out what Dan means, kinda like the midrange speaker is set to a highpass of 300-400 hz, with the bassports trying to fill all the sub region
@@TR-qf2gt why It wont allow to reply? (Edit strange) I have a HiFi sound system with Bluetooth and use apple music hifi music and it sound like this on my wife iphone but sound good on my android. (Both using apple music app but her on aac Bluetooth and me on LDAC and her it sound like part of the sound missing because of compression just like he experienced in Is test.)
@@ggill1313 not my problem. The difference using hi fidelity music on a high fidelity compatible speaker system is huge when passing from sbc/aac to LDAC its just the reality. You can deny reality all you want it seem like many deny reality lately.
The bass port "sound lines" were going through the ports on the rear and then out through the speakers on the front (it was a transparent view through the speaker)
My favourite implementation of a clear speaker has to be the Lyric Speaker, but it is freakung expensive. Amazarashi did a really cool music video with one.
I like the W-King line of speakers I have the D9 and it punches way above its $80 price tag. And it's lasted a year now being played 10 hours a day 6 days a week, often over-driven with equalizer tweaks.
I think the intention here was really to make a modern "clock-radio" type product to sit on a night stand in the bedroom. Makes a lot of sense to integrate a good quality 35W PD charger into it. What's strangest about this though is that Edifier uses those exact drivers in a number of really solid powered stereo monitor pairs that deliver great sound quality.
One suggestion though...If the speaker is offering aux input,use it for sound quality check. With lossless audio it makes an absolute difference. Bluetooth just limits that to hell. Tested this for years from cheap bluetooth speakers to the high powered car audio. But i like to see Dan as well.
I got a Panasonic SC-UA30 for $150 which is one of those giant standing-up speakers and it's 300W. It does Bluetooth and RCA in and it is loud af. If you are looking for a speaker for music maybe you want to check it out. I'm thinking of getting another one for the other side of the table so it's stereo
I kind of dig the 35W label on the side of the case, if only because in terms of powered monitors that's a relevant figure. The way I'd read it is they are demonstrating that it's a tier up from the industry norm of about 20W per speaker on $100-ish monitors. That being said, it doesn't mean it's better, as all things are very much not equal with those material choices.
I bought this before, and its nice as a talk and show piece when u have a house party, but the sound is lacking a bit. I might end up buying good quality low profile speakers to cover up this speaker's lack of good music to balance it out hahahaha
With the charging ports, it seems these are more targeted for use as desktop speakers. The size of the speakers relative to the drivers seems like a poor use of real estate. I think I'll stick to my Aiyima D03 DAC/Amp, bookshelf speakers, and 10" powered sub under the desk.
@Dan .. do a review of the Wheel record player in the background. keep in mind the Kickstarter took years longer, and the company forced pledges to pay more to get anything apparently. Still curious how it turned out.
If it's better with bass behind the speaker, what if you place it right next to a wall so the more bassy sound reflects off the wall? I imagine people would have this next to or against a wall more than in the middle of a room
This was one of those "am I made of worms?" days I see
First here
OwO
Guys we need worms merch now. Little cartoon worms wearing headphones and jamming
Intrusive thoughts have made their way out 😂
which is weird because he's made from bread
Dan is the inner voice in my head that's come alive.
wait. why does this make sense...
"I don't know if I'm full of worms or not..."
God. Dammit, Dan.
Now I have questions...
First
the amount of people currently carrying around parasitic worms without knowing is higher than you wanna know :)
@@Tophatguy_vrJust for you bro: 🏅 🥇 🎖️
Congrats.
The answer is probably sushi.
Dan is a real life Wes Anderson character.
First
Theres a slight Jeff Goldblum in there somwhere
its the incoherant screams at home that brings his character to life
This is the best description of Dan ive seen.
Super accurate. Down to the pace of dialogue and lack of pauses to let each prior zinger sink in
Dan is great, he is so matter-of-fact that its just easy to absorb whatever he's talking about.
Worms in current year.
He's very uncomfortable being a presenter. Makes for an awkward video, would rather have James review speakers, I don't know what Dan's day to day duties are but he's better off behind a camera
@@freshfishonly I respectfully disagree. His cadence is fine and he gets the point across like a friend explaining a product to you. If anything I prefer this type of review/unboxing rather than some full of confidence puppet who says whatever pleases the sponsors lol.
That's completely fine, to each his own I suppose.@@Skyflairl2p
Dan is all of our intrusive thoughts
"I don't know if I'm full of worms or not..."
and the sticker
Always nice to see Dan reviews!
If you have it against a wall, you might feel some of the extra punch of bass being reflected off of the walls
Neighbor’s worst nighmare
Very much this. I have a pair of 7" bookshelves that are absolute beasts (extremis 6.8 drivers) and if you put them in the middle of a room they sound anemic because I designed them to be near-ish to a wall so they have only have ~3dB of baffle step compensation not 6 or more that you'd want for something used in the middle of the room. If you have them near a wall they are basically flat down to 40Hz but when it's out from the wall it drops off a couple octaves higher than that.
I was thinking this too, there are quite a few speakers using this type of design that felt on being placed near a wall of similar backdrop for the bass to be reflected. Another reason that it's actually a good idea to actually look at the manual instead of idiotically throwing it aside.
That being said Edifier tends to be known for having fairly low quality overall, so I didn't really expect anything from this plastic pile of $_&#.
@@tionio7722lol poor people who live in apartments
This is not some random tech TH-camr doing this in his bedroom closet. He has a whole camera crew and rest of the studio in front of him. If it sounds too bassy like that, it would sound even worse had he wall in front of him.
"I don't know if I'm full of worms or not?" what a wonderful way to open a video, love dan
I love how Dan always makes the bleep button work when he's on SC.
Stereo makes a massive difference. I bought a google nest audio for the corner of my kitchen bench. I got another a week later and made a stereo pair and put it in the other corner. the sound was more than twice as good in a stereo pair. and probably cost less than this. I see this product being something like a desk/bench/bedside speaker.
Well yeah, obviously stereo is better but that applies to every speaker.
And weve known that since what, 1930 or so? People shouldnt expect a singular bluetooth speaker to sound impressive.
@@pelagia1538a mono speaker can sound great. If you miss frequencies on one speaker you will also with two.
Seems like Edifier did something similar to Bose and you need the speaker in front of a wall for it to sound the best.
Yeah that was my first thought, too. I dont know too many people outside of corporate offices who have their desk floating in the middle of the room. Even outside of Bose, my cheap crappy Logitech speakers benefit from a wall. too.
I always enjoy Dan's appearances :)
Dan has a very chaotic mind.
The way he speaks, picks things up and sets it back down again.
Feeling every knob, nook and cranny of this speaker.
It is absolutely wonderful seeing Dan doing a review of this Edifier speaker.
Dan is basically that little voice we have in our heads.
"I don't know if I'm full of worms or not" definitely got me to pay attention. Most effective way to turn second monitor content into main viewing 😅
i love dan when he does reviews. no filters and says it exactly as they are.
There is genuinely nothing I love more than a Dan hosted video
I could listen to this man review audio equipment all day, every day
Yeah, he’s a real earworm.
Dan is easily my favorite member of the LTT crew
I would have tried it with its back facing a wall, maybe that would help with the bass. I have an Akai BT speaker that fires down with the reflex tube, it often feels the superior config, but that also needs a solid surface.
LOL that's quite the vertical throw for a mighty 3db eq change
It's 6db, it's starting point is -3
That being said, the UI is terrible so I see why you made that mistake lol
Dan is my favorite on camera personality! We need more Dan!
Also note on the cord, at least it's a standard connection that can easily be replaced or changed.
Dan videos are an instant watch and upvote, always so entertaining. Edit: Worms worms worms!
what I like best about the worms is the fact that they are not an eldritch horror
Dan is an absolute joy... What a great asset for LMG.
I have a Edifier S350DB and I actually love it a lot!
You discussed every feature in depth and that's impressive.
A wild Dan appears yet again. I love his way of witty yet savage information delivery.
I'm not even a little interested in this product but Dan makes it seem interesting. W Dan
"it sounds better from the back" maybe it would sound better in front of a wall to bounce the bass reflex output off of?
This Dan model doesn't have worms in him. We stopped making that model long ago
Sound wasnt bad on my unit but custom eq is needed
Dan is my favorite cast member at this point, such a perfect show!
8:30 it's probably because it's supposed to be sitting against a wall and the bass ports would reflect off the wall so that it doesn't feel so empty when listening from the front side. Definitely not made for open air
Speaking for all of the internet here... we need more Dan in videos, he's great!
Nope
Only Dan could begin a video by stating "I Dunno if i'm full of worms or not" and have me smashing the like button within the first ten seconds. Please never change Dan!
I'm guessing, as with basically everything that's reflex ported behind itself, that it has a specific distance from a wall or other large flat surface it wants to be (usually mentioned in the manual). The wall reflects the bass around, giving it a larger feel and less directionality. Wouldn't help with a mids scoop though. This was a weird miss for edifier - kind of their entire thing is affordable bookshelf speakers that punch way above their cost. I like the look but with an open grill like that, I'd prefer the tweeter be an AMT and a larger 4 or 6 inch woofer. and maybe send it with some kind of protective cover you could put over the drivers. I like the look of uncovered drivers but am always paranoid.
A pair of the hivi swan OS-10's is $150, they're bluetooth, wired, sound amazing. Or the edifier R1280BS for the same.
I feel like you’re supposed to have it against a wall which theoretically would further diffuse and distribute the bass signal. It might not “fix” the audio problems but I think it would likely round out the sound of the speaker a lot more
Yeah thought that as well!
"It'd be really sick to have a little transparent panel right here. I don't know if I'm full of worms or not."
That's the most Dan shit that Dan has ever said.
When Dan is involved, the content is always After Dark.
Team17 needs to sponsor a Dan video with their next Worms game ^_^
The most entertaining videos are the ones hosted by Dan, I love it!
I was more excited about the worms rather than the speaker unit. I wanted to see worms!
I get real “Welcome to night vale” vibes. Now I want hidden night vale stuff in every Dan episode
Have you looked at the Sony HT-AX7? It's touted as a "portable theater system" with detachable satellites that costs $500. For that money, one could buy a Minirig 2.1 setup.
I think they base the volume leveler to be based on your device, so depending on devices, laptop / phone / pc, etc it can be louder
MORE DAN! I love the way he speaks to my soul
These first 10 seconds are without a doubt the greatest intro in any video ever!
Worms!❤
Definitely look forward to dan videos.
I have 2 sets of Edifiers, a set of R1700BTs' in my bedroom, and a set of R1280DBs' on my PC desk along with an accompanying Dayton SUB800 8" powered sub under the desk.....
Both of them sound utterly fantastic, even without a sub, beautiful, rich and pretty flat sound..... those little guys put in work. I initially was set out to buy some Swans D100's for my bedroom, but they were never in stock, so I reluctantly bought the Edifiers because I know they've been highly regarded by some known audio guys.... I was definitely not disappointed 👌
Now while I'm biased due to me owning and thoroughly enjoying 2 sets of Edifiers, and would never buy a standalone BT speaker (ok I lied, I bought one for work when I was driving a forklift that would sit perfectly inside the cupholder, a small UK built BT speaker called a MiniRig, also fantastic), but it seems you're not using this thing in it's intended scenery.... I mean, who listens to a speaker that close? Strange
I've got a pair of R1700BTs as my PC speakers too and they're damn good, on par with my vintage 70s Hi-Fi speakers, absolutely stellar value, they outshine speakers double their price. They look great too.
@@angry_wizard yeah Edifier makes great stuff, I was very surprised with both of my sets sound.
I looked on Amazon for this little one reviewed, it seems this guy here is the only one disappointed with it's sound... people have said it's nothing in comparison with Edifier's more focused offers, but for a "single speaker" Bluetooth RGB clock speaker, it sounds great....so after my Edifiers, and the written reviews on this one here, I'm wondering if he wasn't placing it, or himself in a correct manner, location, room size, table ECT (who listens to a speaker that close?) , or it was defective or has already passed through other reviewers hands.... IDK, strange.... I personally wouldn't buy it, I've got a ton of RGB in my PC and behind my desk, but my desk is beautiful, clean simple walnut, and my Edifiers match pretty nicely, I don't want transparent RGB speakers on my desk 😅
When a frequency band is sudpected of missing, isn't that the perfect time for labs to be included?
Sum nerd 🤓 shi
what a start to a video 💀
Bought the Edifier r1700bt bookshelf speakers to use on my PC years ago. Amazing build quality and sound too! Definitely recommend checking the brand if you're looking for speakers
always nice to have more dan videos. love his reviews and his quirkieness.
the mri scan of my lymphoma tumours are my desktop wallpapers...shakes head...i need help..
Even through YT audio compression i think to be able to hear to out what Dan means,
kinda like the midrange speaker is set to a highpass of 300-400 hz,
with the bassports trying to fill all the sub region
Well maybe if he used a phone with LDAC support instead of an iPhone...
@@zadarblackthough LDAC doesn’t really matter if the device you’re using it with can’t reproduce sound as good and take advantage of the resolution
@@TR-qf2gt why It wont allow to reply? (Edit strange) I have a HiFi sound system with Bluetooth and use apple music hifi music and it sound like this on my wife iphone but sound good on my android. (Both using apple music app but her on aac Bluetooth and me on LDAC and her it sound like part of the sound missing because of compression just like he experienced in Is test.)
I just don’t believe you
@@ggill1313 not my problem. The difference using hi fidelity music on a high fidelity compatible speaker system is huge when passing from sbc/aac to LDAC its just the reality. You can deny reality all you want it seem like many deny reality lately.
The bass port "sound lines" were going through the ports on the rear and then out through the speakers on the front (it was a transparent view through the speaker)
Dan's hyperfocus has finally been driven away from bread and landed on worms I guess
I can think of at least half a dozen speakers I would buy before this one
im a minute in and i need mor Dan in my life lolz. He needs to unbox more!
I love this guy, every time he is in a video it is a joy.
Dan's brainworms are what makes him special
"Once you go worm, that's all you'll yearn!"
The way he said I play incoherent screaming at home 😂
now im invested in Dan's intrusive thoughts...time to go and watch all the reviews with Dan specifically.
My favourite implementation of a clear speaker has to be the Lyric Speaker, but it is freakung expensive.
Amazarashi did a really cool music video with one.
I will never get tired of Dan reviewing anything really 😀
nobody likes me, everyone hates me....I'm gonna eat some worms....lol
I like the W-King line of speakers
I have the D9 and it punches way above its $80 price tag. And it's lasted a year now being played 10 hours a day 6 days a week, often over-driven with equalizer tweaks.
idk man it looks to me like something I'd get tucked away behind some hats with bottle openers at TJ Maxx
I used to refer to him as Dial-tone Dan, but I think he's more of a Busy Signal Dan now
good video btw
I think the intention here was really to make a modern "clock-radio" type product to sit on a night stand in the bedroom. Makes a lot of sense to integrate a good quality 35W PD charger into it. What's strangest about this though is that Edifier uses those exact drivers in a number of really solid powered stereo monitor pairs that deliver great sound quality.
One suggestion though...If the speaker is offering aux input,use it for sound quality check. With lossless audio it makes an absolute difference. Bluetooth just limits that to hell. Tested this for years from cheap bluetooth speakers to the high powered car audio. But i like to see Dan as well.
Dan's my current favourite LTTer.
honestly i have no interest in bluetooth speakers, but i do have interest in Dan's delivery, something about his timing makes him a joy to listen to.
Best advert for worms ever!
This guy talks the way I do when I try to microdose but over-do it. I love his style and the worms jokes were gold😂
I got a Panasonic SC-UA30 for $150 which is one of those giant standing-up speakers and it's 300W. It does Bluetooth and RCA in and it is loud af. If you are looking for a speaker for music maybe you want to check it out. I'm thinking of getting another one for the other side of the table so it's stereo
we need more see-through stuff like those LAN line phones back in the 90s/2000s. sometimes they're full of water.
I kind of dig the 35W label on the side of the case, if only because in terms of powered monitors that's a relevant figure. The way I'd read it is they are demonstrating that it's a tier up from the industry norm of about 20W per speaker on $100-ish monitors. That being said, it doesn't mean it's better, as all things are very much not equal with those material choices.
Dan, you need some walls to reflect the sound of the bass reflex ports, you are in the middle of a big set !!!
I bought this before, and its nice as a talk and show piece when u have a house party, but the sound is lacking a bit. I might end up buying good quality low profile speakers to cover up this speaker's lack of good music to balance it out hahahaha
Worms, you say? "Red Wigglers: The Cadillac of worms!" - WKRP in Cincinnati
With the charging ports, it seems these are more targeted for use as desktop speakers. The size of the speakers relative to the drivers seems like a poor use of real estate. I think I'll stick to my Aiyima D03 DAC/Amp, bookshelf speakers, and 10" powered sub under the desk.
BEST introduction sentence I've EVER heard
@Dan .. do a review of the Wheel record player in the background. keep in mind the Kickstarter took years longer, and the company forced pledges to pay more to get anything apparently. Still curious how it turned out.
When I qualify I’m definitely using the phrase “going to have to do some surgery to find out what worms are in here”
Dan reviews are great
“I bring the ‘worm energy’ to the tech review that the ‘Linus Sebastian’ behind me don’t really like.”
the white fluff is called polyfill, it tricks the speakers/drivers into thinking they have more airspace
Isn't it to stop resonance?
@Kelthor85 not being a jerk, but I can't explain it as well as some other. Try youtubeing polyfill and speaker enclosures
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to bounce the bass off a monitor or wall behind it
If it's better with bass behind the speaker, what if you place it right next to a wall so the more bassy sound reflects off the wall? I imagine people would have this next to or against a wall more than in the middle of a room
dude, im getting Flight of the Navigator space ship vibes from the RGB chrome bits. i kinda dig it
Need more Dan videos!
"This looks GREAT, but sounds..." sums up most of Edifier's offerings.
Edifier makes pretty good active speakers. They should send them to you
Shame to see Dan already succumbing to the worms. By the next LAN Show, he won't even be able to hold a conversation.
It would mostly likely be in a place with a wall behind it or in a case so it probably was a reflection thing
Danggg Dan. Never thought I would see "de staat" on short circuit. Nice