@@SmokyMovieGod, my laptop came with 2 free weeks of Norton pre-installed. After failing to download *STEAM* (which was for some reason flagged as malware), I just deleted the whole thing. It took some time, of course, but I did it.
I mean technically not because it doesn't send you to a malicious link or program, but its malicious in it's intent of cyber-assaulting people into giving them money for non reasons.@@Charlotte_Yeji
@@Charlotte_Yeji I assume they say that based on how behaves after your trial/subscription ends, its not LITERALLY malware (im not a computer nerd tho). its just abhorrent. and yes the ads scare you into making you think you have a virus its messed up
@@umbreex4061 thx for clarifying 😭 those pop up saying that I haven’t turn on browser protection or smthing I click yes and next day I STILL HAVENT TURN IT “ON “YET thought was a malware since I didn’t install it. Turns out it was pre installed into my dell
@@TheWhiteBamba I've had it preinstalled on both of my higher end HP laptops and know at least two other people who had it come preinstalled on theirs as well.
thats literally what happened with my hp laptop. hp + god knows what probably windows installed all bloatware. mcaffee also installed which permanently disabled defender. cpu idled at 55 C. after nuking everything from scratch and removing every bloat, it idles at 25 C now
That brings old memories of me trying to install cracked games when I was a kid. Of course, I failed miserably and infected my computer. Then, the damn repair store, formatted the whole computer. Didn't even backup the data.
people set up sites to spam your notifications and send you referrals to mcafee. happened to me by clicking an ADSENSE ad, and appears in eric's previous videos about malware.
Looks like the McAfee popups have improved. 10 years ago, it would kick you out of whatever you were doing and launch your web browser to tell you to buy their shit. _Every 15 minutes._ I hate that they're still in business.
If any software I install alters my search engine, bombards me with pop-ups, or modifies my system settings without my knowledge or explicit consent, then it meets the definition of malware. Programs that take such actions are invasive, disrupt the intended functionality of my system, and compromise my control over my device. Regardless of their intended purpose, if they manipulate my settings or push unwanted notifications without permission, they qualify as malicious software. Responsible software respects user autonomy, while anything that circumvents this respect to tamper with settings or inject itself into my browsing experience is essentially malware.
I run Avast in silent / gaming mode. So it doesn't give any notifications or pop-ups at all. However, the downside is that if it quarantenes any program it things is dangerous. It will do so without making a log of it. And you'll be comfused as to why a program you wanted suddenly dissapeared without a trace. You have to remember to check the quarantene box in the antivirus yourself. (I've had avast for years, and only time this happned was a few months ago with VRChat)
Exactly this. As he said, McAffee comes pre-installed on most new builds with a 30 days trial. Most people are going to uninstall McAffee after the 30 days and will then be completely unprotected. I would say that's a pretty major issue.
@@bogrunbergerI think windows automatically reenables Windows Defender when protection from other antiviruses is lost. That's if McAfee properly reports itself as expired or uninstalled, which retriggers Defender, but Microsoft may have put a safeguard to ensure Windows Defender comes on anyway. Don't quote me on that.
My grandma had issues with her laptop being really slow and I suspected Mcafee was the issue. When I tried removing it, it would constantly tell me it couldn't because it was already running. I also was never able to close it because it would restart itself even when I ended the process in task manager. What finally worked was I found a program that lets me delete things even if they're running. I forced Mcafee off of her laptop and when I rebooted, the computer ran very smoothly.
@@rafsandomierz5313 Basic ransomware tactics. If you pay for the super-premium one, the system runs well, but if you cheap out, it barely chugs along, and lets you know that it would run faster with the expensive option. They fought the ransomware so long they became it.
My biggest gripe with commercial AVs is all the additional stuff they're pushing along with it. I don't want a VPN, a "safe browser", popup adverts, a password manager or any of that. Just give me an antivirus engine that is less targeted than windefend while maintaining similar levels of performance and maybe slightly better behaviour-based detection rate and we're good.
I have Bitdefender Free (it's hidden on their website, you have to Google for it) and it is literally just that, an AV, complete with real time protection and no ads.
Many clients with laptops and McAfee pre-installed, laptops with HDDs, slowest I've ever seen, with McAfee (old version) pop-up one after another and after uninstalling laptops always ran 200% better and faster like a SSD kinda, incredible.
On a mcaffee infested laptop with a hdd, just the removal process can take hours. It prevents you from using the device, from uninstalling it, and from checking for other malware. Pre-installed Mcaffee is malware.
Yeah, one of my family's old pcs doesn't run anymore because it had a 10yo install of Mcafee. It'll boot up, then freeze for a couple of hours before bluescreening because Mcafee ate too much storage and RAM...
The first thing I do every time I get a new laptop/PC is check to see if an antivirus (Norton or McAfee) is installed, and if it is, wiping everything and reinstalling Windows. If it’s got one of those on it, god knows what other bloatware they decided to put on the computer before it was sold. God, I hate McAfee/Norton.
Protegent is the true worst Antivirus. You will die If you use it. Mcafee is also bad. Overpriced, heavy on system, and in terms of malware protection performs worse than Windows defender from what I've seen in many reviews. But hey, its not the worst.
My issue with McAfee is the ads, browser hijacking, etc. makes me very skeptical that it's primary business model isn't more about data collection and analytics than anything else. They might not 'log' personalized VPN data but that doesn't mean it's not gathering usage data or giving state actors access to personalized data (hypothetically). Not to mention I've heard they are notorious for processing DMCA requests. Seriously how many red flags does one need to see?
Besides the fact that John McAfee himself was a nut job up until his death. The guy was just an insane conspiracy theorist. He died just a few years ago and the last thing he posted was a big Q back when Qanon was such a big far right conspiracy theory.
I've never seen someone move their cursor so fluidly. It looked like some sort of synchronized dance. It was beautiful. I shed one singular, shiny tear.
I don't like how uninstalling McAfee seem to destroy Defender. This is a no-go. Eric, maybe you could make a follow-up, where you try to get Defender running again?
I also would appreciate a follow-up, as someone with a new laptop that had McAfee pre-installed on it. My free trial is up and I don't want to pay for McAfee, but I can't afford to just go without an antivirus at all.
@@fred-youtube ...Is that not just what the comment I replied to said? That it breaks (leaves it deactivated erroneously) Windows Defender if you uninstall McAfee. (Right now my Defender is deactivated because it recognizes that I'm "using" McAfee instead.) Which is why I want to know how to properly uninstall McAfee in a way that allows Defender to reactivate itself.
My school's McAfee subscription didn't get renewed. This kicked the antivirus system into overdrive, making any and every act on the computers with McAfee nullified to the point where Google searches are blocked with Warnings and a big red "return to safety" button. Like 20% of the computers are fucked 😄👍
I also was given so many notifications on my Windows 10 computer about things I don't care about, and whenever a notification pops up on Windows you're kicked out of any full screen thing you were using! UGH!
McAfee is the real malware here. I’d honestly rather run the risk of getting a virus than ever have to deal with it again. The best antivirus software is common sense.
what you're probably talking about is people setting up sites to spam your notifications and send you referrals to mcafee. happened to me by clicking an ADSENSE ad, and appears in eric's previous videos about malware.
@@Nakia11798it’s not. It’s the tracking apps windows says that “improves your experience”. It slows down your PC. Maybe install Linux which only has ONE tracking option.
McAfee definitely has one of the worst uninstall experiences, I had it pre installed on a PC a couple of years ago. I ended up making a fresh windows installation iso and adding the drivers it needed and reinstalling the OS.
I remember getting this anti-virus on my PC while donwloading a pirated game. By God the level of resources it used, brought unnessessary and clickbait ads and wasted my RAM, I was soo annoyed with this that I tried to delete it but it was almost impossible to get rid of it. Horrible experience with this one.
I also say that considering it comes on so many prebuilts, as soon as the 30 days expires, it disables your antivirus entirely and leaves you with nothing, while spamming your notifications with "please pay me" every few minutes. I had a computer come with norton as a kid, and not knowing how to uninstall it, if I closed it, it would pop up every 20 minutes, so I just left the window open so it wouldn't annoy me. norton is another one of those useless programs. malwarebytes is okay but if you install the free version it once again disables your antivirus entirely. that's not cool.
On Windows at least, I think it's intentional for Windows Defender to disable itself entirely if you have any other recognized adblocker installed? To prevent conflicts, perhaps. The problem is that Windows Defender only detects the existence of the other program on your computer and not if that program is actually _doing_ anything, so it stays turned off even if your subscription has run out. The problem is when an uninstall of the other program doesn't let Defender turn itself back on again :/
@@TheRainbowbeautiful I use MWB as a scanner, but for the most part Windows defender is what runs most of the time. IMO you don't need anything more than defender if you're halfway smart about what you're installing. And in the case of kids, they shouldn't have admin access on your system to begin with.
upon exiting MalwareBytes, defender will be off for a few moments (youll see a windows notification about actions needed) before turning on again from my experience with the free version. Essentially it runs instead of defender - but you can actually also choose to run both at the same time
The thing is the kinds of computers that McAfee winds up on are way more sensitive to McAfee's resource usage and become pretty much unusable until it's removed. Laptops with a Pentium Gold or N100 etc. are totally capable as facebook machines but you put McAfee on them and the potato flavor really comes out. I've taken so many laptops from paperweight status to good enough status just by running MCPR.
I've bought up an Acer laptop a year ago with McAfee installed by OEM. This thing expired in a month and it begged me to renew my subscription. I've discarded McAfee to the standard Windows Defender, which do the job effectively.
It being preinstalled and asking to buy the full Version is the WORST. My grandparents once bought it thinking it was necessary to use the lapop. We could at least cancel it and get the money back! Since then Always double checking for that piece of Garbage!
For me McAfee was getting installed with Adobe Acrobat Reader, it genuinely felt like a virus/malware but I later realized it is a cheap tactic by Adobe to hide the checkbox for installing McAfee with the PDF reader.
McAfee is just.. The worst, it took ages to uninstall it and it still kept popping up with messages warning me about how long I have left to use it or something like that. Luckily it has stopped now.
'Let's just take a quick break to tell you about our sponser' *Immediately sees the McAfee ad pop up & for a moment thought he was sponsored by them 💀 hahas
when i was younger my dad made it a priority that our home computer have antivirus software, and a lot of other people i knew. nowadays i remember when i would get so many popups browsing back then as opposed to getting my own laptop and never using anything but Windows Defender and adblock browser extensions. if you know how to navigate the internet you don't need an antivirus software, and Defender does a good job either way
Windows Defender is fairly good, again, as you mentioned, if you’re not stupid and practice basic internet safety. And even if I wanted an AV, I wouldn’t choose McAfee or Norton in a million years.
The best antivirus software is common sense. I’ll say this a million times. Antivirus softwares are obsolete in the current internet world because of the constant updates most computers usually get. Back in the early internet days when there was still some mystique about websites and it really was more like the Wild West with few rules or regulations, antivirus softwares were more important. But nowadays you can just as easily get by with simply Windows Defender and frequent computer updates. Browse responsibly and use your noggin when it comes to websites.
one thing i dont really like about McAfee is that it just on every laptop you buy, super annoying to see classmates have like a ton of pop ups from McAfee
The issue I have with McAfee is its history of stealing and selling user data. It's a program that constantly tries to remain installed on your PC, and no matter how hard you try to remove it, it’s nearly impossible. Additionally, it’s loaded with adware, which is something I also dislike about WinRAR. Given its questionable history, McAfee isn’t trusted by anyone who values their privacy and desktop security.
I am confused about WinRAR, I could count the number of times I've had the free trial popup on one hand and I've been using it for something like 7 ish years at this point. And it still hasn't disabled itself despite it technically being the free trial.
My laptop came with McAfee and WebAdvisor and I uninstalled it as soon as I could. All I need is Windows Defender and *common sense.* Edit: unfortunately, my parents still have an expired McAfee and it tries to convince them to renew the subscription, sadly it's like an adware when it expires.
McAfee is hot trash. At all my clients I use ESET Endpoint Security with everything turned on (real-time scanning, heuristics, LiveGuard, etc). I also use ESET Cloud Office Security which integrates with both Google Workspace and Microsoft 365 to block threats even before they're delivered to the end user. I also use at least 2 other layers of security - 1 on the gateway and 1 on the endpoint itself. Also ESET has their free "AV Remover" which successfully (and fully) removes most of the major brands of antimalware solutions. Full disclosure - ive been an ESET partner for more than a decade and I love their business products.
I remember that a year or so back suddenly all our development machines stopped building our software. We dug around and it turned out that something ESET related apparently decided to remove .NET Framework 4.6 (or maybe it was 4.7 - can't recall). So, yeah, ESET, riiiight....
@@Axolutl When he was setting up his computer, a pop-up came on his computer about McAfee. It wouldn't stop bothering him about it, so he tried to go into it to disable it. He ended up doing something he wasn't supposed to and almost got locked out. He ended up fixing it, and now he hates McAfee's guts.
Great point about how most threats will attack windows defender first. This doesn't make it a bad way to keep your PC safe, especially if you mod and install a ton of stuff.
The real thing that made it so hated is being pre-installed on a ton of computers, bundled with tons of stuff for no reason, etc. And being unnecessarily hard to remove. All for a mid (at best) antivirus that constantly gives pop ups to PLEASE BUY THE FULL VERSION YOU'LL BE UNPROTECTED BUY IT Also, it's not as bad now, but it used to be a HUGE resource hog. Most other AVs were much better in that regard.
system settings > ransomware protection > controlled folder access > turning on this setting makes windows defender prevent any and all unwanted programs from altering or running without permission from the user at the OS level
One time i got an email from it saying i had to pay for it, even though i had never even used it before! it said i had seven viruses, sure buddy, like I wouldn’t have noticed by now. I trashed the email and my laptop was fine.
You turned off fast scanning in Mcaffe when doing the scan, which is what gives it it's infamous high resource usage. It should run way faster with that on
Norton and even malware bytes now have pop-up advertising baked into their products. You have to go into the settings and specifically toggle them off and nortons one looks like toggling it off is turning the advertisements ON instead of off. It's sadly common lately.
The slowdown before it lets you run the first virus is exactly why I hate "anti"virus software. They cause machines to grind to a halt when trying to do anything remotely serious on them.
The popups are absolutely the problem. I had it pre-installed on a laptop I bought, and honestly the first few days it was fine at first, and then I got one pop-up saying that my trial is about to expire and I need to pay to stay protected, fair enough, warning a few days in advance is something I can get behind, but from then on they just never stopped, and they always had some sort of "trick" to get me to pay. "You have been attacked 37 times in the last hour!* ([very small text]*according to our estimations based on average statistics)", "Temporary sale if you buy now! [Looping countdown video/gif]", and so on, all of which were popups happening several times per day (often minimizing any full screen application I had open in the process). At that point it didn't matter to me if McAfee was 'better' than Windows defender because the user experience was just that bad.
i use it because my father gets it for free in his job and its actually pretty good for detecting and removing viruses, although if you stop paying it then it can become a pain basically it has one of the highest detection rates but its a pain to uninstall
This was literally my anti virus since it was already on my computer but then it started putting pops ups EVEN when i was subscribed because "you don't have the version of the app that can clean your device!"
I tried McAfee once and not only could I not get rid of it, it persisted through a factory reset. It's basically malware in itself. I couldn't get free of it till I bought a completely new system.
If this ever happens again, just know that persisting through a factory reset just means it’s gotten into your motherboard. Just let the CMOS battery die and wipe ur drive on a separate pc and you’ll be good as new. If this doesn’t work then just get a new drive and motherboard, as it won’t last any longer than 2ish seconds on ram and won’t even be able to do anything to cpu/gpu
McAfee is more annoying than anything else to me. It will occasionally pop up saying "You're free trial has ended, buy our subscription to keep yourself safe" or something like that either on its own or whenever I restart my computer. Sometimes it'll just pause whatever application I'm using to show a notice that my trial ended and to renew the subscription. It also flags the most useless stuff. The first time I went to wheel of names it flagged it. TWICE. It's honestly just a huge pain to use
4:48 In the results from VirusTotal, you can see that "McAfee Scanner" does report the file! In fact, the text _itself_ was VERY close to Eric's cursor!
Average windows experience > Had to reset my system Macfee poped in along with express VPN and a lot of shit apps I never use . > Have powerful enough hardware so decided to keep it. > Went to scanning It kept on loading > Nothing on the damm app worked everything keeps loading > Uninstall > It did not uninstall the browser thingy > Annoyed By windows in general > WIndows not letting me open folders on My drive saying I don't have enough permission :( > had dual boot Linux need to Off TPM > Addicted to Valorant . It's not working without TPM :( > Get annoyed by crashed and stupid updates > Frustration
Hi there, lurker here and this is my first comment. Might not only be the wrong place but maybe even the wrong video to comment this but..; -For a while, there have been a malicious channel spreading malware and honestly, seeing how long it has been known, it would be interesting to see if you or anyone else here have heard about it. Channel in question is: "TH-cam - Thirtyone Studios - Aironys Trailer - 2024 Indie Game Project (Closed-Alpha Trailer)" - Discord user spreading it went under the name: "Beersan" Channel is hidden obviously, reported months ago in a reddit thread and Today we had to ban a user from a server that was spreading this in DM's to our members. So it is very much still a thing and it would be interesting to see what it actually does
I used mcaffee for 1 week. It kept stealing ram, slowing down my laptop. The CONSTANT popups are annoying. It starting itself up automatically is annoying (ik u can turn it off but still) Then there’s the emails, The ads for their other services, Plus my GAMING LAPTOP absolutely hated deleting mcaffee. I believe they also sell your information.
Norton is okay, the only negative is the slightly sluggish UI. I don't think there's ANY AV solution out there that doesn't have a negative attached to it.
It acts as a virus. Desperately trying to stay installed, despite attempting to delete it. Its such a pain.
And once your trial expires it begs you for money
@@Chaotic_evil_duck Begging is an understatement😭
@@damianovich1512 I literally deleted it and I'm still getting pop ups
Norton also does that. I used the Uninstaller, and it still is around. Norton and Mac suck.
@@SmokyMovieGod, my laptop came with 2 free weeks of Norton pre-installed. After failing to download *STEAM* (which was for some reason flagged as malware), I just deleted the whole thing. It took some time, of course, but I did it.
"The McAfee ad said I have 9 viruses"
Scareware is malware! It's basically malware after your subscription ends.
Wait that’s true?
I mean technically not because it doesn't send you to a malicious link or program, but its malicious in it's intent of cyber-assaulting people into giving them money for non reasons.@@Charlotte_Yeji
@@Charlotte_Yeji I assume they say that based on how behaves after your trial/subscription ends, its not LITERALLY malware (im not a computer nerd tho). its just abhorrent. and yes the ads scare you into making you think you have a virus its messed up
@@umbreex4061 thx for clarifying 😭 those pop up saying that I haven’t turn on browser protection or smthing I click yes and next day I STILL HAVENT TURN IT “ON “YET thought was a malware since I didn’t install it. Turns out it was pre installed into my dell
@@umbreex4061 you could definitley argue that i'ts specifically designed to disrupt your experience iwth popup ads which would be conisdered malware
My biggest issue with McAfee is that it's pre installed on pretty much every PC, and it can be hard to get rid of.
That's pretty much my experience. It's not a bad product per se, but the preinstall + broken uninstaller is like malware.
I always reinstall Windows on laptops and prebuilds so I don't have to deal with their bloatware.
@@theairaccumulator7144 doesnt work on school laptops :(
I always hear people say McAfee is pre-installed on their device. I have never had that pre-installed on ANY of my devices, ever.
@@TheWhiteBamba I've had it preinstalled on both of my higher end HP laptops and know at least two other people who had it come preinstalled on theirs as well.
imagine a malware that installs mcaffee and then removes it just to disable defender
Haha. But would it be a better idea to just register as an AV itself?
@@fred-youtube to register as AV provider they have to join the Microsoft Virus Initiative or be partnered so they really can’t do that.
Not close but it reminds me of Double Agent malware
UltraAV much better option
thats literally what happened with my hp laptop. hp + god knows what probably windows installed all bloatware. mcaffee also installed which permanently disabled defender. cpu idled at 55 C.
after nuking everything from scratch and removing every bloat, it idles at 25 C now
Very unrelated but I find very funny how the most reliable way to get hacked is looking for what a kid would look for on youtube
free robux hacks install!!!
That brings old memories of me trying to install cracked games when I was a kid. Of course, I failed miserably and infected my computer.
Then, the damn repair store, formatted the whole computer. Didn't even backup the data.
@@The_Green.They just want to ensure no infected data come back and bite you 🤣
It's on purpose, they target the most gullible people which are kids and teens.
@@BenjaminHarias someone who’s a teen I just download rufus, make a new drive and do diskpart clean and install a fresh system
Ah yes everyones favourite browser hijacker to make your search engine yahoo
WAIT, THATS WHY?
@@Humanthatshumanyep
THATS WHY???
Wait wtf this explains a lot
people set up sites to spam your notifications and send you referrals to mcafee. happened to me by clicking an ADSENSE ad, and appears in eric's previous videos about malware.
Looks like the McAfee popups have improved. 10 years ago, it would kick you out of whatever you were doing and launch your web browser to tell you to buy their shit. _Every 15 minutes._ I hate that they're still in business.
They're still in business partly because of improvement in their marketing.
But he has a free trial so, and my computer had mcafee also and it kept spamming pop ups and taking me out of what I was doing
I can’t imagine how many video games matches got ruined by these pop ups
@@adaptablerubenvideos3097 ruined Atleast 3 of mine
Yeah they still do that just every hour and it is so annoying! I'm going to remove it
If any software I install alters my search engine, bombards me with pop-ups, or modifies my system settings without my knowledge or explicit consent, then it meets the definition of malware. Programs that take such actions are invasive, disrupt the intended functionality of my system, and compromise my control over my device. Regardless of their intended purpose, if they manipulate my settings or push unwanted notifications without permission, they qualify as malicious software. Responsible software respects user autonomy, while anything that circumvents this respect to tamper with settings or inject itself into my browsing experience is essentially malware.
Based on that, Windows 10+ is essentially malware OS.
I run Avast in silent / gaming mode.
So it doesn't give any notifications or pop-ups at all.
However, the downside is that if it quarantenes any program it things is dangerous. It will do so without making a log of it. And you'll be comfused as to why a program you wanted suddenly dissapeared without a trace. You have to remember to check the quarantene box in the antivirus yourself.
(I've had avast for years, and only time this happned was a few months ago with VRChat)
and also a giant pain in the ass to uninstall, literal malware
Isn’t windows malware by your standard?
@@reedy_9619 That's what I said and my comment was deleted.
"It's not that bad"
Literally killed Windows Defender.
You mean fire wall?
Defender is an anti-virus
You can't have two at once
right??
o7 to windows defender
Exactly this. As he said, McAffee comes pre-installed on most new builds with a 30 days trial. Most people are going to uninstall McAffee after the 30 days and will then be completely unprotected. I would say that's a pretty major issue.
@@bogrunbergerI think windows automatically reenables Windows Defender when protection from other antiviruses is lost. That's if McAfee properly reports itself as expired or uninstalled, which retriggers Defender, but Microsoft may have put a safeguard to ensure Windows Defender comes on anyway. Don't quote me on that.
Once you think that McAffee is uninstalled, a month later you will get a popup/notif telling you to reinstall McAffee...
this is why we use revo uninstaller
I had to delete the folder from my program files to get it to properly uninstall
@@sp00der23 this is why i wipe the drive on every new pc / laptop i get
Yeah I have Norton that better
@@universalshorts412Norton is worse.
My grandma had issues with her laptop being really slow and I suspected Mcafee was the issue. When I tried removing it, it would constantly tell me it couldn't because it was already running. I also was never able to close it because it would restart itself even when I ended the process in task manager. What finally worked was I found a program that lets me delete things even if they're running. I forced Mcafee off of her laptop and when I rebooted, the computer ran very smoothly.
I wonder what they want to achieve by breaking the hardware.
More sales?
@@rafsandomierz5313 Basic ransomware tactics. If you pay for the super-premium one, the system runs well, but if you cheap out, it barely chugs along, and lets you know that it would run faster with the expensive option. They fought the ransomware so long they became it.
@@rafsandomierz5313I think mcaffee is so bad that it accidentally kills your performance, like Norton
Yk
you could have used icacls
@@rafsandomierz5313 Spot on. They WANT you to believe your PC is compromised so you keep using their scammy AV products.
My biggest gripe with commercial AVs is all the additional stuff they're pushing along with it. I don't want a VPN, a "safe browser", popup adverts, a password manager or any of that. Just give me an antivirus engine that is less targeted than windefend while maintaining similar levels of performance and maybe slightly better behaviour-based detection rate and we're good.
Then just get their business/enterprise versions. No bloat but expensive
I have Bitdefender Free (it's hidden on their website, you have to Google for it) and it is literally just that, an AV, complete with real time protection and no ads.
But you _do_ want a bitcoin miner though, right?
wdym by less targeted than windows defender?
@@crawfishdig probably he/she meant less popular/common AV by cyber criminals to bypass/exploit
I first thought it was an actual virus disguising as an antivirus bc of how hard it is to get rid of 😭😭😭
Me with Chromium.
No joke, it refused to leave my old laptop. Came installed with, you guessed it, McAfee.
@@Nakia11798there's that too, i had tk install it to install google chrome, that shit wouldn't delete
Sameee, i was so freaked out i thought i installed a virus
The McAfee product removal tool requires you to solve a captcha
Many clients with laptops and McAfee pre-installed, laptops with HDDs, slowest I've ever seen, with McAfee (old version) pop-up one after another and after uninstalling laptops always ran 200% better and faster like a SSD kinda, incredible.
On a mcaffee infested laptop with a hdd, just the removal process can take hours. It prevents you from using the device, from uninstalling it, and from checking for other malware. Pre-installed Mcaffee is malware.
@ThePlacehole frfr it takes forever, I had to reboot many times and restart it because after one hour it didn't move an inch.
Yeah, one of my family's old pcs doesn't run anymore because it had a 10yo install of Mcafee. It'll boot up, then freeze for a couple of hours before bluescreening because Mcafee ate too much storage and RAM...
The first thing I do every time I get a new laptop/PC is check to see if an antivirus (Norton or McAfee) is installed, and if it is, wiping everything and reinstalling Windows. If it’s got one of those on it, god knows what other bloatware they decided to put on the computer before it was sold.
God, I hate McAfee/Norton.
Protegent is the true worst Antivirus. You will die If you use it.
Mcafee is also bad. Overpriced, heavy on system, and in terms of malware protection performs worse than Windows defender from what I've seen in many reviews. But hey, its not the worst.
havent heard of protegent in a MINUTEEE
@@dogsruletheworld124Totally. Its still around and begging to be tested in late 2024. I think it would perform even worse than it used to
_I am proto! Your security is my motto!_
@@the206th_egg yes
They actually released a new ad this year. They apparently paid $10k. They got absolutely scammed lol.
My issue with McAfee is the ads, browser hijacking, etc. makes me very skeptical that it's primary business model isn't more about data collection and analytics than anything else. They might not 'log' personalized VPN data but that doesn't mean it's not gathering usage data or giving state actors access to personalized data (hypothetically). Not to mention I've heard they are notorious for processing DMCA requests.
Seriously how many red flags does one need to see?
Just don't install the safe Web search thing. Easy.
@rmyikzelf5604 Not installing anything with McAfee in its name is even easier but sure, that's a start.
Besides the fact that John McAfee himself was a nut job up until his death. The guy was just an insane conspiracy theorist. He died just a few years ago and the last thing he posted was a big Q back when Qanon was such a big far right conspiracy theory.
I've never seen someone move their cursor so fluidly. It looked like some sort of synchronized dance. It was beautiful. I shed one singular, shiny tear.
"Ludivico Technique" aaaah tear
@@shroomer3867 binding of isaac ahh comment
@@shroomer3867 its ludovico, minor spelling mistake, my life has been ruined
I don't like how uninstalling McAfee seem to destroy Defender. This is a no-go.
Eric, maybe you could make a follow-up, where you try to get Defender running again?
I also would appreciate a follow-up, as someone with a new laptop that had McAfee pre-installed on it. My free trial is up and I don't want to pay for McAfee, but I can't afford to just go without an antivirus at all.
It destroys defender? ☠️ let me not get anything with mcaffee preinstalled
@@SalamanderMoonUninstall Mcaffe and Windows defender will deactivate itself.
@@tsuketsu9889Just uninstall it and defender reenables.
@@fred-youtube ...Is that not just what the comment I replied to said? That it breaks (leaves it deactivated erroneously) Windows Defender if you uninstall McAfee. (Right now my Defender is deactivated because it recognizes that I'm "using" McAfee instead.) Which is why I want to know how to properly uninstall McAfee in a way that allows Defender to reactivate itself.
My school's McAfee subscription didn't get renewed. This kicked the antivirus system into overdrive, making any and every act on the computers with McAfee nullified to the point where Google searches are blocked with Warnings and a big red "return to safety" button.
Like 20% of the computers are fucked 😄👍
wouldnt that just kinda be considered ransomware
Are you sure the computer's time and date is set correctly that usually happens when its a bit wrong
My school had an active crowdstrike subscription at the wrong time took them months to fix every computer.
No it didn't. The company would get sued over that
@JS-wp4gs idk what to tell you man
So many pop-ups you might think that you DID instal a virus
I also was given so many notifications on my Windows 10 computer about things I don't care about, and whenever a notification pops up on Windows you're kicked out of any full screen thing you were using! UGH!
it is malware tho
It automatically downloaded while I was trying to download something else. I always thought it was malware
yeah it is often bundled with other apps
It kinda is malware though
McAfee is the real malware here. I’d honestly rather run the risk of getting a virus than ever have to deal with it again. The best antivirus software is common sense.
mcafee is just cramming ads and popups into your computer and on many laptops (pre insalled)
what you're probably talking about is people setting up sites to spam your notifications and send you referrals to mcafee. happened to me by clicking an ADSENSE ad, and appears in eric's previous videos about malware.
You know it’s bad when certain antiviruses flag it as a PUP or adware, lmao
My grandparents have mcafee and every time I opened a game when it was on, all it did was say “oh the game is a virus, uninstall?”
Mcaffe slows pc. Once i was helping a guy that lost 200 fps in overwatch randomly, turned out it was mcaffe.
It often seems to think games are malware.
@@Nakia11798 That too, mcaffe has too many false positives and it has low detection rate of malware, it's just bad.
@@Nakia11798it’s not. It’s the tracking apps windows says that “improves your experience”. It slows down your PC. Maybe install Linux which only has ONE tracking option.
@@Nakia11798oh and don’t even talk about MacOS on their tracking apps.
McAfee definitely has one of the worst uninstall experiences, I had it pre installed on a PC a couple of years ago. I ended up making a fresh windows installation iso and adding the drivers it needed and reinstalling the OS.
For me, I simply went into the apps menu in Settings and uninstalled McAfee and any other app associated with it.
seeing ads in your web browser was wild to me. im so used to having an effective ad blocker
niko oneshot uses uBlock Origin
Seems like this is his "work" laptop. No way 40gb ssd is enough for a personal laptop lol.
1:23 Pwease turn off adblock, we're starving!
1:28 The ad experience
I clicked the 1:28 timestamp, immediately got a TH-cam ad after buffering.
the ad experience knows no bounds
@@noonehonestlycaresmatehaha me too:DD
I remember getting this anti-virus on my PC while donwloading a pirated game.
By God the level of resources it used, brought unnessessary and clickbait ads and wasted my RAM, I was soo annoyed with this that I tried to delete it but it was almost impossible to get rid of it. Horrible experience with this one.
Was it called Avast? I got a similar freeware antivirus off Romsmania that choked my internet connection out randomly
I also say that considering it comes on so many prebuilts, as soon as the 30 days expires, it disables your antivirus entirely and leaves you with nothing, while spamming your notifications with "please pay me" every few minutes. I had a computer come with norton as a kid, and not knowing how to uninstall it, if I closed it, it would pop up every 20 minutes, so I just left the window open so it wouldn't annoy me.
norton is another one of those useless programs.
malwarebytes is okay but if you install the free version it once again disables your antivirus entirely. that's not cool.
doesnt disable mine. I think this is a skill issue
On Windows at least, I think it's intentional for Windows Defender to disable itself entirely if you have any other recognized adblocker installed? To prevent conflicts, perhaps. The problem is that Windows Defender only detects the existence of the other program on your computer and not if that program is actually _doing_ anything, so it stays turned off even if your subscription has run out. The problem is when an uninstall of the other program doesn't let Defender turn itself back on again :/
I have Malwarebytes and I can still use Windows Defender just fine
@@TheRainbowbeautiful I use MWB as a scanner, but for the most part Windows defender is what runs most of the time. IMO you don't need anything more than defender if you're halfway smart about what you're installing. And in the case of kids, they shouldn't have admin access on your system to begin with.
upon exiting MalwareBytes, defender will be off for a few moments (youll see a windows notification about actions needed) before turning on again from my experience with the free version. Essentially it runs instead of defender - but you can actually also choose to run both at the same time
The thing is the kinds of computers that McAfee winds up on are way more sensitive to McAfee's resource usage and become pretty much unusable until it's removed. Laptops with a Pentium Gold or N100 etc. are totally capable as facebook machines but you put McAfee on them and the potato flavor really comes out. I've taken so many laptops from paperweight status to good enough status just by running MCPR.
I've bought up an Acer laptop a year ago with McAfee installed by OEM. This thing expired in a month and it begged me to renew my subscription. I've discarded McAfee to the standard Windows Defender, which do the job effectively.
It being preinstalled and asking to buy the full Version is the WORST. My grandparents once bought it thinking it was necessary to use the lapop.
We could at least cancel it and get the money back!
Since then Always double checking for that piece of Garbage!
lapop 😔
lapop 😔
lapop 😔
lapop 😔
For me McAfee was getting installed with Adobe Acrobat Reader, it genuinely felt like a virus/malware but I later realized it is a cheap tactic by Adobe to hide the checkbox for installing McAfee with the PDF reader.
Adobe sadly isn't any better! 😂
I saw McAfee start automatically installing with Adobe Acrobat Reader and cancelled SO fast
McAfee is just.. The worst, it took ages to uninstall it and it still kept popping up with messages warning me about how long I have left to use it or something like that. Luckily it has stopped now.
'Let's just take a quick break to tell you about our sponser' *Immediately sees the McAfee ad pop up & for a moment thought he was sponsored by them 💀 hahas
when i was younger my dad made it a priority that our home computer have antivirus software, and a lot of other people i knew. nowadays i remember when i would get so many popups browsing back then as opposed to getting my own laptop and never using anything but Windows Defender and adblock browser extensions. if you know how to navigate the internet you don't need an antivirus software, and Defender does a good job either way
Defender's also just a lot better than the "nothing" most people had 20 years ago.
Windows Defender is fairly good, again, as you mentioned, if you’re not stupid and practice basic internet safety.
And even if I wanted an AV, I wouldn’t choose McAfee or Norton in a million years.
The best antivirus software is common sense. I’ll say this a million times. Antivirus softwares are obsolete in the current internet world because of the constant updates most computers usually get. Back in the early internet days when there was still some mystique about websites and it really was more like the Wild West with few rules or regulations, antivirus softwares were more important. But nowadays you can just as easily get by with simply Windows Defender and frequent computer updates. Browse responsibly and use your noggin when it comes to websites.
my Mom's hp came with Mcaffee and she has been uprotected for 2,000 days
Have you turned Defender back on, or is she just lucky?
@Nakia11798 mcaffee turns on defender after expiring
one thing i dont really like about McAfee is that it just on every laptop you buy, super annoying to see classmates have like a ton of pop ups from McAfee
The irony is that at 6:28 you can see "McAfee" detects it, yet the program installed on the VM doesnt...
Great software -_-
It’s kinda funny how MacAfee detected the first file AxoPac.exe on virustotal but the installed version did not
Because in VT they have different configurations set by the AV vendor. They tell you when you hover your mouse pointer in one of the AV names
Lenovo: "Hey, check out an AI powered antivirus!"
Me: _clicks out of morbid curiosity_
_sees McAfee_ *"AH-"* _closes tab immediately_
"the worst antivirus"
Avast when instead of deleting the virus, it deletes itself:
it does what
The issue I have with McAfee is its history of stealing and selling user data. It's a program that constantly tries to remain installed on your PC, and no matter how hard you try to remove it, it’s nearly impossible. Additionally, it’s loaded with adware, which is something I also dislike about WinRAR. Given its questionable history, McAfee isn’t trusted by anyone who values their privacy and desktop security.
I am confused about WinRAR, I could count the number of times I've had the free trial popup on one hand and I've been using it for something like 7 ish years at this point. And it still hasn't disabled itself despite it technically being the free trial.
@@3_Circlesit was made a pretty long time ago and they never decided to fix the fact that you can just close the pop up
My laptop came with McAfee and WebAdvisor and I uninstalled it as soon as I could. All I need is Windows Defender and *common sense.*
Edit: unfortunately, my parents still have an expired McAfee and it tries to convince them to renew the subscription, sadly it's like an adware when it expires.
Yeah my parents made me have it when I was on windows :( I tried telling them it was probably worse than getting a virus but they wouldn't listen.
Try to convince them that it’s malware and they need to delete it
@@ThrowawayAccountToCommentSame boat...
@@ThrowawayAccountToComment My parents didn't make me have it, they just have it on their computers. Kinda lucky. Also, what OS are you on rn?
@@aab.videos Switched to linux a few months ago, so made sure not to reinstall it of there!
mcafee keeps trying to tell me the wikis i visit are malware, the wikis are absoltuely not malware
1:43 bruh you have 16 times faster internet with VPN than I have without VPN
australian?
@@glassoffire873tbh I think internet that fast probably Costs alot of money.
200x for me bro 😭
McAfee is hot trash. At all my clients I use ESET Endpoint Security with everything turned on (real-time scanning, heuristics, LiveGuard, etc). I also use ESET Cloud Office Security which integrates with both Google Workspace and Microsoft 365 to block threats even before they're delivered to the end user. I also use at least 2 other layers of security - 1 on the gateway and 1 on the endpoint itself. Also ESET has their free "AV Remover" which successfully (and fully) removes most of the major brands of antimalware solutions. Full disclosure - ive been an ESET partner for more than a decade and I love their business products.
We use Forticlient at work, did at my last job as well.
I remember that a year or so back suddenly all our development machines stopped building our software. We dug around and it turned out that something ESET related apparently decided to remove .NET Framework 4.6 (or maybe it was 4.7 - can't recall). So, yeah, ESET, riiiight....
They for sure have disgusting business tactics.
I think is was due the creator died
McAfee: *fails more than half of the tests*
Eric: "I'm gonna give this a passing grade"
🤔
So glad youtube is fighting against vpns and adblockers instead of scams and viruses
McAfee almost destroyed my brothers NEW computer once.
Please tell me
@@Axolutl When he was setting up his computer, a pop-up came on his computer about McAfee. It wouldn't stop bothering him about it, so he tried to go into it to disable it. He ended up doing something he wasn't supposed to and almost got locked out. He ended up fixing it, and now he hates McAfee's guts.
@@sieannasorbello4060 In other words it had nothing to do with mcafee
Eric Parker gave it the 'at least you tried' pass
its literally malware
the antivirus is a virus
technically a pre-paid ransom ware
It's like malware that doesn't steal any info. Any actual malware would be way worse to have, but ig you can consider it adware?
there are other antiviruses which can be considered as malware, for example Kaspersky antivirus
@@tsuketsu9889how do you know?
Great point about how most threats will attack windows defender first.
This doesn't make it a bad way to keep your PC safe, especially if you mod and install a ton of stuff.
The real thing that made it so hated is being pre-installed on a ton of computers, bundled with tons of stuff for no reason, etc. And being unnecessarily hard to remove.
All for a mid (at best) antivirus that constantly gives pop ups to PLEASE BUY THE FULL VERSION YOU'LL BE UNPROTECTED BUY IT
Also, it's not as bad now, but it used to be a HUGE resource hog. Most other AVs were much better in that regard.
bro is flexing his internet
system settings >
ransomware protection >
controlled folder access >
turning on this setting makes windows defender prevent any and all unwanted programs from altering or running without permission from the user at the OS level
Would this be a good way to stop viruses? Or just stop McAfee?
@@BlazingAbyss879 its a good way to help stop viruses
mcafee actually makes controlled folder access less effective
@@BlazingAbyss879 Neither
One time i got an email from it saying i had to pay for it, even though i had never even used it before! it said i had seven viruses, sure buddy, like I wouldn’t have noticed by now. I trashed the email and my laptop was fine.
You turned off fast scanning in Mcaffe when doing the scan, which is what gives it it's infamous high resource usage. It should run way faster with that on
If it requires a reinstall of Windows on a prebuilt to use a different antivirus, that’s be pretty bad.
Its not just us but the CEO of McAfee has said to not download McAfee and this was far before all the Ai bs
Reset my pc today, first thing I did was go in the control center and uninstalled McAfee from my pc
4:47 end of sponsor
YEEEE-EP! I saw that too! "McAfee Scanner" ITSELF reports the executable over VirusTotal, LOL.
Your favorite antivirus that keeps changing your search engine to yahoo
You delete it, and you STILL get the popups! And when you try delete the popups from task manager, it REFUSES you access to that McAfee file!
his final "fuck you" before his death was making this antivirus terrible
I wish computer antiviruses helped with IRL viruses. I know it’s impossible but still.
This feels straight out of the early "computer virus takeover" videos from the 2010s
Love the energy/vibes
if (virus == true)
{
virus = false;
}
It’s so bad a virus down loaded it, I’m still trying to get rid of it a month later
Dude, mcafee doesn't even look good when compared to Windows Defender. A free product included with the OS. That's absolutely terrible.
"not quite as fast as a commercial vpn" while casually getting 100x my download speeds
Depending on the version. It's so bad that it blocks the Windows update servers.
Norton and even malware bytes now have pop-up advertising baked into their products. You have to go into the settings and specifically toggle them off and nortons one looks like toggling it off is turning the advertisements ON instead of off. It's sadly common lately.
The slowdown before it lets you run the first virus is exactly why I hate "anti"virus software. They cause machines to grind to a halt when trying to do anything remotely serious on them.
The popups are absolutely the problem. I had it pre-installed on a laptop I bought, and honestly the first few days it was fine at first, and then I got one pop-up saying that my trial is about to expire and I need to pay to stay protected, fair enough, warning a few days in advance is something I can get behind, but from then on they just never stopped, and they always had some sort of "trick" to get me to pay. "You have been attacked 37 times in the last hour!* ([very small text]*according to our estimations based on average statistics)", "Temporary sale if you buy now! [Looping countdown video/gif]", and so on, all of which were popups happening several times per day (often minimizing any full screen application I had open in the process). At that point it didn't matter to me if McAfee was 'better' than Windows defender because the user experience was just that bad.
Have you taken a look into Kaspersky? And if not would you be willing to dedicate a video to it? Despite it recently having been banned in the US.
i use it because my father gets it for free in his job and its actually pretty good for detecting and removing viruses, although if you stop paying it then it can become a pain
basically it has one of the highest detection rates but its a pain to uninstall
Is there any anti virus that Eric would recommend? I've only heard him talk negative about different ones, but I only have microsoft defender on mine
malwarebytes but windows defender is plenty already
It detected itself as a virus, deleted itself, and then, like a virus, reinstalled itself without my permission twice
Can you look at Avast or Norton next?
Fuuuuuuccccck Norton.
Avast is fine, in my experience, but Norton did NOTHING.
even mcafee thought a system32 file was a virus once💀☠️☠️
3:43 we got Eric wearing cat ears before gta 6
Dang, that’s what he looks like? He doesn’t sound like he looks
This was literally my anti virus since it was already on my computer but then it started putting pops ups EVEN when i was subscribed because "you don't have the version of the app that can clean your device!"
I tried McAfee once and not only could I not get rid of it, it persisted through a factory reset. It's basically malware in itself. I couldn't get free of it till I bought a completely new system.
If this ever happens again, just know that persisting through a factory reset just means it’s gotten into your motherboard. Just let the CMOS battery die and wipe ur drive on a separate pc and you’ll be good as new. If this doesn’t work then just get a new drive and motherboard, as it won’t last any longer than 2ish seconds on ram and won’t even be able to do anything to cpu/gpu
5:41 from personal experience, mcafee won’t detect anything until the payload is executed. Even if files were infected before the payload
im eatin chips rn and watchin ur vids so good btw i got a hole in my sock
We've all got atleast 1 hole in our socks.
@@matthewb192 i got 2 in my right sock
McAfee is more annoying than anything else to me. It will occasionally pop up saying "You're free trial has ended, buy our subscription to keep yourself safe" or something like that either on its own or whenever I restart my computer. Sometimes it'll just pause whatever application I'm using to show a notice that my trial ended and to renew the subscription. It also flags the most useless stuff. The first time I went to wheel of names it flagged it. TWICE. It's honestly just a huge pain to use
Eric parker official fursuit merch at 200k?
14:00 No. The affiliates aren't the problem. The problem is every 5th installed automatically trying to install mcafee
paws at eric :3333
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@@maxwellthesillycat Dude this person plays roblox condos dont interact
@NeoVei i literally dont play condos how many times do i have to say it omg stop harassing me genuinely
@@paws-at-you u get paws at u
(my pfp a cat :3)
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4:48 In the results from VirusTotal, you can see that "McAfee Scanner" does report the file! In fact, the text _itself_ was VERY close to Eric's cursor!
Average windows experience
> Had to reset my system Macfee poped in along with express VPN and a lot of shit apps I never use .
> Have powerful enough hardware so decided to keep it.
> Went to scanning It kept on loading
> Nothing on the damm app worked everything keeps loading
> Uninstall
> It did not uninstall the browser thingy
> Annoyed By windows in general
> WIndows not letting me open folders on My drive saying I don't have enough permission :(
> had dual boot Linux need to Off TPM
> Addicted to Valorant . It's not working without TPM :(
> Get annoyed by crashed and stupid updates
> Frustration
0:32 You wanna know what else is MASSIVE…
McAfee is the ONLY pop-up ad I have ever seen, it's very annoying.
Hi there, lurker here and this is my first comment. Might not only be the wrong place but maybe even the wrong video to comment this but..; -For a while, there have been a malicious channel spreading malware and honestly, seeing how long it has been known, it would be interesting to see if you or anyone else here have heard about it. Channel in question is: "TH-cam - Thirtyone Studios - Aironys Trailer - 2024 Indie Game Project (Closed-Alpha Trailer)" - Discord user spreading it went under the name: "Beersan"
Channel is hidden obviously, reported months ago in a reddit thread and Today we had to ban a user from a server that was spreading this in DM's to our members. So it is very much still a thing and it would be interesting to see what it actually does
0:33 you know what else is massive ?
A loooooooooooooow taper fade
What I hate about it is that IT keeps popping up when I'm on a "dangerous site" and it makes me go to the website to buy it and I have to exit it.
I used mcaffee for 1 week.
It kept stealing ram, slowing down my laptop.
The CONSTANT popups are annoying.
It starting itself up automatically is annoying (ik u can turn it off but still)
Then there’s the emails,
The ads for their other services,
Plus my GAMING LAPTOP absolutely hated deleting mcaffee.
I believe they also sell your information.
I had Norton preinstalled on my PC. And even that was easier to remove on my PC in my situation than McAfee depicted here.
Norton is okay, the only negative is the slightly sluggish UI.
I don't think there's ANY AV solution out there that doesn't have a negative attached to it.