0:46 Randy Johnson 1:45 Pedro Martinez 2:28 Sandy Koufax 3:14 Tom Seaver 4:08 Greg Maddux 5:14 Roger Clemens 6:21 Lefty Grove 7:24 Christy Mathewson 8:12 Cy Young 8:27 Walter Johnson
HTF could you omit NOLAN RYAN? Ignoring longevity, some of the pitchers who were indomitable in their prime and very difficult to hit off, according to the players themselves, would include Don Drysdale, Nolan Ryan, and Bob Gibson. Greg Maddox, and Sandy Koufax on the list already.
Sandy Koufax pitched in a decade of an expanded Strike Zone! This enhanced his numbers! Nolan Ryan pitched in an era of a smaller Strike Zone, ..much tougher!
@@BST-lm4po Ryan certainly was a flame thrower-an all time great. But for his more brief career, so was Koufax. Implying that Koufax had it easier or suggesting he was less accurate due to the strike zone is ludicrous. In actual practice he could hit that imaginary box as well as any. My personal list not solely based upon stats, but incorporating hitters comments, is: Ryan, Randy Johnson, Koufax, Maddux, Gibson, Seaver. After that the selection becomes nebulous.
@@commanderthorkilj.amundsen3426 Actually Koufax had a terrible ERA until MLB expanded the Strike Zone. His best years came after the expansion. And all of MLB's pitchers benefited so much from the new Strike Zone that MLB not only went back to the smaller Strike Zone in the late 60's (after Koufax retired) but they also lowered the pitching mound.
@@TomKingsleyB This is hilarious, the guy with 5714 Ks, 7 no hitters, lowest hits per 9 inning 6.55, lowest career batting average allowed .204 is overrated? All records that have almost zero chance of ever being broken? If you think the win/loss ratio is important, realize he was on historically bad teams for over 1/2 of his career. Since baseball is a team sport, even if the pitcher only allows 1 run, if the offense doesn’t score you still lose. Nolan Ryan’s only real negative was his walk ratio. Which is not the worst ever, but playing as long as he did, the total number of walks he gave up won’t be broken either. Nolan Ryan is at worst a top 10, and I’d argue top 5 all time pitcher.
@@TomKingsleyB I really like Jack Morris as well....he was Mr. October on the pitching side, unfortunately Nolan Ryan did not have the same World Series opportunities, and he never won the Cy Young award, but add a nasty curve to a 100mph fastball, strike out more batters in history, throw 7 no-hitters, and do all of the above over a 25+ year career, this perennial all-star deserves to at least be mentioned in this video.
@@uspockdad6429 I agree. The best pitcher still has to have his team score runs when they’re up, to record a win. Nolan was truly feared by batters. It’s a bit like Wilt Chamberlain being criticized--his teams in the 60’s were not as deep as the Celtics, so championships didn’t come. Similarly, Dan Marino had one of the best arms in all of football, distance, accuracy, under defensive pressure, but his teams were incomplete and erratic, so he’ll never be ranked highly,
Thank you! All these clowns in here are asking for Nolan Ryan when the greatest postseason pitcher of all time who had a season so great they had to change the way the game was played is missing from the list.
I'm in the camp that Nolan deserves an honorable mention. While my gut reaction is "why is he not on the list" my next thought was -- who am I going to take off the list. As another poster said Nolan wasn't a pitcher -- he was a beast.
Ryan doesn't even make the top 20 list...no way a pitcher who led the league in walks EIGHT times makes a top 10 list. No way. Ryan's WHIP of 1.247 isn't even that great. But who would you take off the list in order to add Ryan? I will take any of them over Ryan.
Nolan Ryan most definitely should be on this list. He had 7 no-hitters (3 more than any other pitcher, Sandy Koufax), and 12 one-hitters. He just missed getting 19 no-hitters! If he had been on better teams, he would have had more than 324 wins, but he didn’t get much run support. His 5714 strikeouts is almost 900 more than the #2 pitcher, Randy Johnson. He should be somewhere in the Top 10 greatest pitchers of all time, for sure.
Sandy Koufax's name is not pronounced Cow-fax, it is pronounced Ko-fax. Casey Stengel said of him, "“Forget the other fellow,” legendary manager Casey Stengel once said of Walter Johnson, an early-20th-Century pitcher who still ranks second in the major leagues in career wins. Stengel had faced Johnson at bat. “The Jewish kid is probably the best of them,” Stengel said." Also, where are Steve Carlton (329 wins), Warren Spahn (363 wins, most of any left-handed pitcher) and Bob Gibson?
@Renegade Sht Not always true. Carlton won 27 games for a last place team in 1972. "Nicknamed "Lefty", Carlton has the second-most lifetime strikeouts of any left-handed pitcher (4th overall), and the second-most lifetime wins of any left-handed pitcher (11th overall). He was the first pitcher to win four Cy Young Awards in a career. He held the lifetime strikeout record several times between 1982 and 1984, before his contemporary Nolan Ryan passed him. One of his most remarkable records was accounting for nearly half (46%) of his team's wins, when he won 27 games for the last-place (59-97) 1972 Phillies. He is the last National League pitcher to win 25 or more games in one season,[1] as well as the last pitcher from any team to throw more than 300 innings in a season.
So.... Babe Ruth pitch a 14 inning shut out to win game 6 of the World Series for Boston before being traded to N.Y. Yankees..... Best 4 year stretch of lefthand pitching....EVER. He pitch 325 inning with a 1.75 ERA in 1916... Rivera never pitched over 75 innings in a season and with a career 2.25 era....
probably stuff like this Using ERA+ to adjust for park and league standards, Ryan's career 112 ERA+ puts him in the same company as Al Leiter, Bartolo Colon and Josh Beckett. Good company, but far less than great company.
k/9 Nolan is 4th while being 1st in bb/9 wild pitches and hit batsman no cy young's definitely a great pitcher but his best imo is a step down from top tier
Ever Heard of Nolan Ryan? A top 10 pitchers list that doesn’t include Nolan Ryan is void of all credibility. Nolan was the most dominant pitcher of his era.
@@mulehead126 I just forgot who the best pitcher ever is...I dont remember his name but you might. He never played in the MLB, he was a softball style pitcher and he traveled the country putting on shows to stadiums of people who were in awe of his skills. He pitched until he was in his late 60's and he struck out the greatest players ever (players like willie mays) and all claimed his pitches were impossible to hit
@@Cereal_Killer007 His name was Eddie Feigner, he was a fast-pitch softball pitcher. Legendary. His team was "The King and His Court" and it was a FOUR man team! Eddie said he only needed two, him and a catcher - but if his team got two men on base no one was left to hit lol. He struck out several major leaguers in a softball game, including Mays! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Feigner
Lefty Grove's stats should have been even better. He was intentionally kept in the minors a few extra years because the team owner didn't want to lose him. His record as a pitcher in the minors was 108-36. He also has games in the minors where he had to play play first base because no one wanted to catch his fastball. He is on the short list of GOAT pitcher candidates. Playing in an offensive-pumped decade, that's like trying to play defense in the NBA today. If you're good, you're REALLY good.
I do find it funny how all the other people on the list have a minute or so for each explanation, but Cy Young is more or less "Yeah, it's Cy Young. What more do you need?"
A little line of "he pitched so much that he just has to be on the list" would have been funny. I think Young is a great example of just showing up for work every day and having the endurance and stamina to see games through to their end.
This list is clearly tilted in favor of the dead-ball era pitchers (although Johnson also pitched for several years in the live-ball era). The biggest overlook is Satchel Paige. The problem is that the records for the Negro Leagues are incomplete, and also that they didn't play nearly as many league games as they have in the other major leagues, so those players in the Negro Leagues didn't get to accumulate the huge season or career numbers.
@@kharmaticmushroom nah your fine. Nolan Ryan was the third best pitcher of his era and walked everybody. Sorry Nolan Ryan is not top 10. Prob top 15, def top 20, but not even close to top ten.
He was the third best pitcher of his era. More importantly who on this list is he better than? Not even close to the level of this crop of dudes. Too many flaws to be top 10.
Really happy to see Maddux on this, and shocked that someone would make a video like this and cannot pronounce Koufax' name. I wonder how many more games Maddux might have won if he hadn't had to pitch to Bonds, Sosa, McGuire, etc. and how many fewer games Clemens might have won if not for steroids.
If we judge Maddux for the regular season games, I guess he should be in that list, but he always disappointed in postseason. For that solely reason he shouldn't be there
I've been asked by our gracious A.I. Host (not really) to provide a list to Nolan Ryan excuse makers of pitchers in the 1970s who won the Cy Young Award, despite pitching for bad or so-so teams: Bob Gibson: 1970 Fergie Jenkins: 1971 Steve Carlton: 1972 Gaylord Perry: 1972 Tom Seaver: 1973 Tom Seaver: 1975 Randy Jones: 1976 Gaylord Perry: 1978 Thank you for your time and attention in this matter.
@@kharmaticmushroom Ah yes, the '71 Cubs were pretty so-so, Fergie. Sutter was a reliever in '79. Wow, nearly half the Cy Young winning starters in the Seventies did it on 'eh' teams.
Couple things. This video came out 4 days ago. 4:52 Braves *only* WS title? They won it again 2 years ago... 2.) You can take the cheater Roger Clemens off the list since he isn't getting into the hof, and probably replace him with Clayton Kershaw once he hangs up the cleats (or right now. He's the best of his generation and one of the top-10, for sure. He's also better than Clemens, who's numbers are certainly skewed.) Clemens doesn't deserve to belong on this list.
If starting a franchise, I would select Steve Carlton ahead of all other pitchers. Carlton could shut down the running game with his great pickoff move while some of the other great pitchers were easy to steal bases.
@@mitchelvalentino1569 if you strike out the side after giving up a walk, sure I don’t mind it. Which he did a lot. He has a record of .204 batting average against, and 6.6 hits per 9. Giving up a walk if you get everyone else out isn’t so bad. He has a better career ERA (3.19) than Randy Johnson (3.29), Lefty Gomez (3.34), and Bob Feller (3.25). So it’s not like those walks were amounting to much. He’s definitely top 10.
Ryan holds 51 total MLB records, including: 5,714 career strikeouts (next-most is Randy Johnson with 4,875) 7 career no-hitters (next-most is Sandy Koufax with 4) Lowest career batting average allowed (minimum 1,500 innings pitched): .204 12 career 1-hitters, tied with Bob Feller 18 career 2-hitters 31 career 3-hitters 15 200-strikeout seasons 6 300-strikeout seasons 4 career 19+ strikeout games 5 career 18+ strikeout games 8 career 17+ strikeout games 16 career 16+ strikeout games 26 career 15+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher 36 career 14+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher 56 career 13+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher 95 career 12+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher 151 career 11+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher 215 career 10+ strikeout games 282 career 9+ strikeout games 358 career 8+ strikeout games 447 career 7+ strikeout games 517 career 6+ strikeout games 596 career 5+ strikeout games 654 career 4+ strikeout games 710 career 3+ strikeout games 752 career 2+ strikeouts games 3 19+ strikeout games, single season (1974) 3 18+ strikeout games, single season (1974) 3 17+ strikeout games, single season (1974) 3 16+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher, single season (1972, 1974) 6 15+ strikeout games, single season (1974 - tied with Pedro Martinez) 15 12+ strikeout games, single season (1973) 18 11+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher, single season (1973) 23 10+ strikeout games, single season (1973 - tied with Randy Johnson) 26 9+ strikeout games, single season (1973) 29 8+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher, single season (1973) 32 7+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher, single season (1973) 36 6+ strikeout games, single season (1974 - tied with Sandy Koufax) 6.55 hits per nine innings pitched, career, minimum 1,000 innings (next-fewest is Sandy Koufax at 6.79) 5.26 single-season hits per nine innings (1972) 26 seasons with at least one win
Ryan's main strengths were velocity, a good curveball, and most of all, longevity. He was hard to hit, that's for sure. But he also walked more batters than anyone else. That's why he isn't in the top 10.
Lovely, you ignored his record of 2795 walks, which gives him 1.247 WHIP - higher than many non-hofers, let alone guys on the list. He's also the first pitchers to give up 10 grand slams, and I think it's still a record. Give me the record of 4 straight CYs, which sadly not held by a guy named Nolan, oh he doesn't even have one.
In 1916.... pitched 325 innings with a 1.75 ERA Lefty Grove AND Greg Maddox BOTH never pitched 300 innings in any season of their careers and each led the lead in innings pitched 4 years in a row. Neither pitched under a 2.00 ERA.... Rivera never pitched more than 75 innings in a season and only broke the 1.75 mark TWICE... Nolan only pitch sub 2.00 era once with only 149 innings pitched. Only pitched over 300 innings once. Babe has the best 5 year numbers of any lefthand pitcher in MLB history. If he had been used to dominate hitting..... He'd have the best pitching of all time. He was un-hittable.
1. Sandy Koufax 2. Bob Gibson 3. Walter Johnson 4 Juan Marichal 5. Tom Seaver 6. Greg Maddux 7. Satchel Paige 8. Pedro Martinez 9. Randy Johnson 10. Bob Feller
Yes and that’s easy. Pedro is a top 5 all time pitcher. I’m a Phillies fan and Carlton shouldn’t be on this list. I theink Feller and Gibson are the closest (Cy Young prob shouldn’t be on here lol) and Spahn are all above a guy like Nolan Ryan to me.
What gives pedro major points is how much better he was than the rest of the league in his prime. Having a sub- 2 era when everyone was jacked on steroids is amazing. Warren Spahn should have been on this list. Even Whitey Ford, who did nothing but win.
Lemme explain Nolan Ryan was a guy who walked a lot even tho he has those no hitters and strikeouts he went under 300 wins he also Walked a lot of batters in the no hitters never letting him have a prefect game unlike the pitchers here he also had a high era making him never win a cy young
Nolan is an anomaly. When just going by statistics he doesn't rank highly. Because don't account for everything. There are some really good videos on him and why he doesn't rank high they way statistics are made. So in a video that only accounts for statistics he most will never be on it. Watching videos and documentary on Nolan has made me appreciate how great he was. I hope as the game gets more obsessed with stats people don't forget players like Nolan just because there stats are as good as some others.
@@randommhafan1370 3.19 era is not high. Greg Maddux had a 3.16 era, Steve Carlton had 3.22, Justin Verlander 3.24, Randy Johnson 3.29. I could go on. He had an below average ERA and led the league in era 2 seasons and was in top 5 era in multiple seasons. His main problem was he was on very bad offensive teams who gave him no run support. His only negative (that he had any control over) is his walk ratio.
I can’t believe, the one and only Nolan Ryan wasn’t even in the top 10!!!!!!! I get if he isn’t everyone’s number one but he is easily arguably the greatest pitcher of all time!!! Worse case, he should have been in the TOP 10!!!!!!!! This might be one of if not the worse tops 10 ranking where arguably most peoples greatest was left out. It’s like leaving out Kobe Bryant or Willy Mays in their respective sport’s greatest players!! I know for sure most of the people who is a true baseball fan would agreed with. I can’t believe it
Nope. Pete Maravich is a better example. Like Ryan, Pistol Pete did things at the time no one else could... but he was never considered the best of his time.
I remember Bob Gibson, Ferguson Jenkins, Satchel Page. Can't compare someone who played in the 20s with the guys from the late 60s on. Different era. Players today are more athletic, stronger, the game has changed.
How on earth does Nolan Ryan not get on this list? His only knock is that he was on bad offensive teams, which is why his wins are down. 7 no hitters, all time strikeout leader. I have to give this a thumbs down. you can't tell me that Seaver and Lefty Grove, were better than Ryan and Carlton.
I know that a top 10 will have to leave off several great pitchers but there is one that has got to not only be on this list but at or near the top. Ever hear of Nolan Ryan? I know not all of his stats were great but most of them were. When I look at too 10’s the only ones he seems to make are the ones voted on by fans. I realize he had a lot of walks and only 1 World Series appearance I think but he checks all of the other boxes and then some. He pitched with more dominance than many of the men on this list. He had twice as many wins as Sandy Cow-fax lol. I know it’s hard to get down to 10 especially on this list but I’m just a fan that thinks he was the greatest!
Doug I get it….but answer me this, if lick anyone to start game 7 in a World Series and the opponents lineup is balanced on both side of the plate, you would pick Ryan over big train, Koufax, even Seaver, Clemens, all healthy and in their primes? That said, if your you are signing a pitcher to a long term contract Ryan is right up there along with Seaver, Walter johnson, Maddox, Spahn.
You also have to remember that Nolan Ryan played much of his career with the angels who were horrible. His stats would have been much better with any other team. Oh yeah and I forgot the Mets.
If Nolan Ryan had an offensive team to pitch for, he would unquestionably be the GOAT. While I did not see him in the sixties and seventies, I did get the privilege of watching him pitch in the eighties and ninety's. He was a machine. It must have been very hard on the man to pitch eight innings of two-run ball, and lose by a score of 2-1 so many times. Yet...he is the all-time strike-out king. Go figure. Yeah...the AI surely missed this man!
I have no problem with this list, but there are others as the comments below suggest. For my suggestion, I would include Warren Spahn for he holds one record that will never be broken. He pitched 20 or more complete games for 13 consecutive seasons, and then there was Satchel Paige, et al.
Nolan Ryan…more no hitters and more strikeouts than ANYBODY and did you check his age when he pitched the last no hitter? With modern technology it was determined that he had a fastball that went up to 109 mph, and his longevity of that fastball was incredible. How could you possibly leave him off this list? But then again… when the guy who is going to tell us about the best all-time pitchers calls our man “Cow-fax”??? Enough said.
If Nolan Ryan threw 8 no hitters, would he have made this list? He won more games than five players on this list. He has almost 1000 more career strikeouts than anyone else. He has more career shut outs than six pictures on this list.
I put Bob Gibson in any top 10 list given his career longevity and his world series play. In the world series seasons of 1964, 1967, amd 1968 he carried the Cardinals with a 7-2 record. Post season play is a good judge of comparison with other pitchers. There have been numerous pitchers who in post season against the best just do not match up with their regular season perfomance. At a glance I would replace him over Sandy Koufax. I grew up in the 1960s and for 6 seasons Sandy Koufax was a great pitcher but his previous 6 seasons were average at best. He also pitched very well in post season.. I have read that today he would have likely been given Tommy John surgery to prolong his career. Perhaps Warren Spahn might even replace that spot as well on the list.. Grover Cleveland (Pete) Alexander may be a better choice than Cy Young from the early days of baseball. He became a Cardinals legend when he played for the Cardinals in his 40s but look at all his prior seasons with the Cubs and Phillies. Don't get me wrong though about Sandy Koufax. From 1961 through 1966 he was a great pitcher. I remember that well when he pitched against the Cardinals.
Sandy Koufax at his best beat all of his contemporaries regularly. He pitched 4 no hitters and a perfect game. He was the first pitcher in 20 years to have an ERA below 2, doing so 3 times. Reprogram your AI
When he was on a roll, unhittable. My grandfather who was born in 1917 said he was the best he'd ever seen. Put Bob Gibson right up there with him. Had fun watching Randy Jones' 1976 Cy Young season with him at Jack Murphy stadium.
Nolan Ryan has 7 no-hitters, 3 more than the next closest Sandy Koufax (pronounced Ko-fax, it is the live (long "i") ball era) Ryan is also the career strikeout leader by a wide margin, Clemons used steroids to achieve is late career results to such a significant degree that he is not in the Hall of Fame. Clemons is typically left off these lists because he cheated. You dismiss this out of hand. Your AI is dependent on the algorithm that drives it. There seem to be a lot of things left off. Finally, wins are not always a good measure of a pitcher's quality. Pitching for a poor hitting or otherwise weak team will cut into this statistic
@@ron88303 You didnt watch enough Braves games....Umps always give the media favorites a generous strike zone!....Maddox always got the questionable calls!...When he didnt he got beat or the team scored for him!...ERA is always good when you get those calls!
@@ron88303 Umps trust the media, so popular guys get good calls...That goes for hitters as well....Umps trusted Ted Williams eyesight, so he got a ton of favorable calls!
This has to be the best top 10 MLB Pitcher list that I can remember seeing • Honorable mention Bob Gipson Nolan Ryan Gaylord Perry Ferguson Jenkins Roy Halliday Steve Carlton Bob Feller
CY Young pitched when baseball wasn't that competitive. Most of the ballplayers weren't that athletic and had jobs working on the railroad, farming,steel mills or something else.Warren Spahn,Bob Gibson and Nolan Ryan should be ahead of him.
Nolan Ryan doesn't even come close to making that list. He never won a Cy Young, led the league in walks 8 times, and his lifetime WHIP of 1.247 doesn't even rank in the top 300!
The greatest pitcher in the history of professional baseball was a woman named Jean Faut. She played for the Racine Bluebells, which was a team in the All American Girls Professional Baseball League (the same league portrayed in the film "A league of their own"). She not only pitched two perfect games (a feat never matched by any other professional pitcher) she pitched three no hitters (the difference is that in a perfect game nobody makes it on base at all, and in a no hitter, someone get on base due to a walk or a struck batter, but does not score). Meaning that not only did she pitch two perfect games, she came close to pitching five. She also pitched an exhibition match wherein she struck out some of the greatest hitters of the 1940s and 1950s. No pitcher has EVER done that well. Ever!
@@TomKingsleyB opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and they all stink. Based on the statistical facts, Nolan Ryan is definitely top 10. I won’t type out all of his records again, but his only negative was his walk ratio.
@@ron88303 There is no way to know with modern training, nutrition, knowledge, development of pitches how good or not Ruth might have been today. What is almost certain is Ruth still today with all those things would be a great ball player. Perhaps not the phenomenon he was in his day because he set those parameters, but he had superior innate skills for the game that would translate.
Babe Ruth..... Best 4 years of lefthanded pitching EVER. The last game he pitched?? 14 inning shutout to win the World Series for Boston in game 6. Then it was off to New York to dominate hitting. But he was UN-HITTABLE as a pitcher....
@@kharmaticmushroom In 1916.... pitched 325 innings with a 1.75 ERA Lefty Grove AND Greg Maddox BOTH never pitched 300 innings in any season of their careers and each led the lead in innings pitched 4 years in a row. Neither pitched under a 2.00 ERA.... Rivera never pitched more than 75 innings in a season and only broke the 1.75 mark TWICE... Now think about how DOMINATE of a right fielder Babe was. Before cameras, he was SKINNY and was FAST too. Greatest hitter, pitcher and all around baseball machine of ALL TIME. He could have played in any era....
@@lordofthemound3890 The starters must have needed a day off and the division was a lock at the end of the season because he wasn't very good. But... as a young starter in the rotation??? The best lefty to ever pitch. Pitch like Mariano Rivera but for COMPLETE GAMES instead of one inning.
meta ai Here are the top pitchers in Major League Baseball history: Top 10 Pitchers of All Time 1. Sandy Koufax: A three-time Cy Young Award winner and four-time World Series champion, known for his impressive fastball and curveball ¹. 2. Tom Seaver: A three-time Cy Young Award winner and twelve-time All-Star, nicknamed "The Franchise" for his incredible career ¹ ². 3. Cy Young: The winningest pitcher in MLB history with 511 victories, also the namesake of the Cy Young Award ¹ ² ³. 4. Christy Mathewson: A two-time World Series champion and five-time ERA leader, considered one of the greatest pitchers of the early 20th century ² ³. 5. Walter Johnson: A two-time World Series champion and eleven-time strikeout leader, known for his blazing fastball ¹ ² ³. 6. Greg Maddux: A four-time Cy Young Award winner and eighteen-time Gold Glove winner, renowned for his control and strategic pitching ¹ ². 7. Randy Johnson: A five-time Cy Young Award winner and ten-time All-Star, known for his dominant fastball and intimidating presence ¹ ² ³. 8. Steve Carlton: A four-time Cy Young Award winner and ten-time Gold Glove winner, considered one of the greatest left-handed pitchers ¹ ². 9. Lefty Grove: A two-time World Series champion and seven-time ERA leader, known for his impressive curveball and control ² ³. 10. Phil Niekro: A five-time Gold Glove winner and three-time All-Star, famous for his knuckleball and longevity ²[3).
If this was a list of top 10 most impressive pitchers I’d put Nolan Ryan on it. There’s a certain shock and awe aspect to him not to mention his longevity (and strikeouts and no hitters and that godly fastball). But he walked a shitload of batters and for much of his career was wild. He’s top 10 for me as far as riveting pitchers I’d glue myself to my chair to watch pitch - but I don’t think he’s in the top 10 of actually best pitchers.
The old-time pitchers pitched for more complete games, which inflates their win-loss stats, given that their opponents were more likely to be pitching complete games too (and therefore pitching worse in late innings when these pitchers teams' offenses were scoring more runs). This also has to be a big factor that explains why hitters don't hit 400 any more - relief pitching must be harder to hit than a pitcher who is tired and whose pitches the batter has seen several times already in the same game.
The great sportswriter, Shirly Povich agrees with you about "The Big Train". Walter Johnson. I think you need to make room in your top 10 for Satchel Paige.
Pretty good vid. It seems you are a newish channel so some friendly advice. When mispronounce names of superstars it tells the potential subscriber that you have a lack of knowledge about the subject and are just reciting a script. Lastly… it was the LIVE ball area. Pronounced like Alive. Not the Liv ball era.
Randy Johnson? Everything about that guy makes me believe that he really wasn't born on Earth. No freakin' way. I can't imagine how even the biggest players feared having to face him in the batters box.
None of the pitchers you listed has a better winning percentage than Whitey Ford or Kershaw. If my life depended on winning a baseball game, Koufax or Martinez would be on the mound for my team.
Good list. Always debatable. Nolan Ryan is an interesting case. Lots of K's and no-hitters, but also lots of walks and losses. Longevity was a strong point. Curious how he re-established his fastball so late in his career. Good list.
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0:46 Randy Johnson
1:45 Pedro Martinez
2:28 Sandy Koufax
3:14 Tom Seaver
4:08 Greg Maddux
5:14 Roger Clemens
6:21 Lefty Grove
7:24 Christy Mathewson
8:12 Cy Young
8:27 Walter Johnson
HTF could you omit NOLAN RYAN?
Ignoring longevity, some of the pitchers who were indomitable in their prime and very difficult to hit off, according to the players themselves, would include Don Drysdale, Nolan Ryan, and Bob Gibson. Greg Maddox, and Sandy Koufax on the list already.
No Nolan Ryan is insane. I'm used to not seeing Drysdale on these types of lists, but no Bob Gibson? yikes.
Sandy Koufax pitched in a decade of an expanded Strike Zone! This enhanced his numbers!
Nolan Ryan pitched in an era of a smaller Strike Zone, ..much tougher!
@@BST-lm4po Ryan certainly was a flame thrower-an all time great. But for his more brief career, so was Koufax. Implying that Koufax had it easier or suggesting he was less accurate due to the strike zone is ludicrous. In actual practice he could hit that imaginary box as well as any.
My personal list not solely based upon stats, but incorporating hitters comments, is: Ryan, Randy Johnson, Koufax, Maddux, Gibson, Seaver. After that the selection becomes nebulous.
@@commanderthorkilj.amundsen3426 Actually Koufax had a terrible ERA until MLB expanded the Strike Zone.
His best years came after the expansion. And all of MLB's pitchers benefited so much from the new Strike Zone that MLB not only went back to the smaller Strike Zone in the late 60's (after Koufax retired) but they also lowered the pitching mound.
This is comprehensive but how could you exclude Nolan Ryan and Bob Gibson?
Nolan Ryan is the most commonly overrated pitcher of all time.
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This is hilarious, the guy with 5714 Ks, 7 no hitters, lowest hits per 9 inning 6.55, lowest career batting average allowed .204 is overrated? All records that have almost zero chance of ever being broken?
If you think the win/loss ratio is important, realize he was on historically bad teams for over 1/2 of his career. Since baseball is a team sport, even if the pitcher only allows 1 run, if the offense doesn’t score you still lose.
Nolan Ryan’s only real negative was his walk ratio. Which is not the worst ever, but playing as long as he did, the total number of walks he gave up won’t be broken either.
Nolan Ryan is at worst a top 10, and I’d argue top 5 all time pitcher.
@@TomKingsleyB I really like Jack Morris as well....he was Mr. October on the pitching side, unfortunately Nolan Ryan did not have the same World Series opportunities, and he never won the Cy Young award, but add a nasty curve to a 100mph fastball, strike out more batters in history, throw 7 no-hitters, and do all of the above over a 25+ year career, this perennial all-star deserves to at least be mentioned in this video.
@@uspockdad6429 He could be overpowering but he was inconsistent.
@@uspockdad6429 I agree. The best pitcher still has to have his team score runs when they’re up, to record a win. Nolan was truly feared by batters.
It’s a bit like Wilt Chamberlain being criticized--his teams in the 60’s were not as deep as the Celtics, so championships didn’t come.
Similarly, Dan Marino had one of the best arms in all of football, distance, accuracy, under defensive pressure, but his teams were incomplete and erratic, so he’ll never be ranked highly,
Satchel Paige really deserves special mention. No one could match his endurance today. No one. But it's great that you covered all eras.
I'd take Bob Gibson over 4 of the pichers you listed.
Thank you! All these clowns in here are asking for Nolan Ryan when the greatest postseason pitcher of all time who had a season so great they had to change the way the game was played is missing from the list.
It satchel paige he like bruce lee prime satchel paige nobody see him pitchexcept negro league teams
Nolan wasn’t a pitcher, he was a beast
List is void without Nolan Ryan.
For sure!!
Ryan's overrated.
I'm in the camp that Nolan deserves an honorable mention. While my gut reaction is "why is he not on the list" my next thought was -- who am I going to take off the list. As another poster said Nolan wasn't a pitcher -- he was a beast.
Ryan doesn't even make the top 20 list...no way a pitcher who led the league in walks EIGHT times makes a top 10 list. No way. Ryan's WHIP of 1.247 isn't even that great. But who would you take off the list in order to add Ryan? I will take any of them over Ryan.
Nolan Ryan most definitely should be on this list. He had 7 no-hitters (3 more than any other pitcher, Sandy Koufax), and 12 one-hitters. He just missed getting 19 no-hitters! If he had been on better teams, he would have had more than 324 wins, but he didn’t get much run support. His 5714 strikeouts is almost 900 more than the #2 pitcher, Randy Johnson. He should be somewhere in the Top 10 greatest pitchers of all time, for sure.
Satchel Paige? Bob Gibson? Nolan Ryan? Mariano River? This is why i don’t trust robots
Your input only makes it more accurate, thank you!
@@kharmaticmushroom Wow. That's arrogant. Paige should have been included. All youir pitchers are white except for one Latino.
@@kenkaplan3654 it's an AI list he didn't pick it
@@tupacalypse88 Thanks for the reminder. Showd how limited stats can be.
Don Drysdale, Bob Gibson, Whitey Ford, Nolan Ryan, Steve Carlton!!!
I can think of quite a few other pitchers that could easily have made this list...Warren Spahn , Bob Feller , Bob Gibson ,
Thanks for the input stay tuned for a more defined round 2
How about Nolan Ryan?
@@kharmaticmushroom Nolan Ryan?
Sorry, Bob feller not quite in this pantheon, though I will admit Ted Williams said he was the toughest pitcher he ever faced .
Leaving Spahn off this list is ridiculous.
Sandy Koufax's name is not pronounced Cow-fax, it is pronounced Ko-fax. Casey Stengel said of him, "“Forget the other fellow,” legendary manager Casey Stengel once said of Walter Johnson, an early-20th-Century pitcher who still ranks second in the major leagues in career wins. Stengel had faced Johnson at bat. “The Jewish kid is probably the best of them,” Stengel said."
Also, where are Steve Carlton (329 wins), Warren Spahn (363 wins, most of any left-handed pitcher) and Bob Gibson?
Wins don't really matter
Wins really only depict the quality of team you played for... e.g. look at the curse of Jacob DeGrom
@Renegade Sht Not always true. Carlton won 27 games for a last place team in 1972.
"Nicknamed "Lefty", Carlton has the second-most lifetime strikeouts of any left-handed pitcher (4th overall), and the second-most lifetime wins of any left-handed pitcher (11th overall). He was the first pitcher to win four Cy Young Awards in a career. He held the lifetime strikeout record several times between 1982 and 1984, before his contemporary Nolan Ryan passed him. One of his most remarkable records was accounting for nearly half (46%) of his team's wins, when he won 27 games for the last-place (59-97) 1972 Phillies. He is the last National League pitcher to win 25 or more games in one season,[1] as well as the last pitcher from any team to throw more than 300 innings in a season.
😂 “cow-fax”
@@vorlon1 Great job of regurgitating Wikipedia’s info!
The only problem with this list is no Pete Alexander.
Not sure how you missed Nolan Ryan. He threw 235 pitches over 13 innings striking out 19. 5714 strikeouts which will never be touched.
So.... Babe Ruth pitch a 14 inning shut out to win game 6 of the World Series for Boston before being traded to N.Y. Yankees..... Best 4 year stretch of lefthand pitching....EVER. He pitch 325 inning with a 1.75 ERA in 1916... Rivera never pitched over 75 innings in a season and with a career 2.25 era....
probably stuff like this
Using ERA+ to adjust for park and league standards, Ryan's career 112 ERA+ puts him in the same company as Al Leiter, Bartolo Colon and Josh Beckett. Good company, but far less than great company.
k/9 Nolan is 4th while being 1st in bb/9 wild pitches and hit batsman no cy young's definitely a great pitcher but his best imo is a step down from top tier
And Nolan lost as many games as he won ! Still when you're talking top 10 all time no body knows Walter Johnson Cy Young. 514 wins. Untouchable
Plus 7 no hitters and 12 1 hitters plus no hitter at 44 with 16 Ks plus 61 SHOs…and a lot more !
Ever Heard of Nolan Ryan?
A top 10 pitchers list that doesn’t include Nolan Ryan is void of all credibility.
Nolan was the most dominant pitcher of his era.
Randy Johnson is no way number 10. With that said Steve Carlton Nolan Ryan are the top five all-time. Bob Gibson needs to be on this list.
Your right, Randy Johnson is more like #5
Ryan a top 5? He never won a Cy Young and led the league in walks 8 times. His lifetime WHIP of 1.247 ranks 307th and you want hm in the top 5...LMAO!
@@mulehead126 I just forgot who the best pitcher ever is...I dont remember his name but you might. He never played in the MLB, he was a softball style pitcher and he traveled the country putting on shows to stadiums of people who were in awe of his skills. He pitched until he was in his late 60's and he struck out the greatest players ever (players like willie mays) and all claimed his pitches were impossible to hit
@@Cereal_Killer007 His name was Eddie Feigner, he was a fast-pitch softball pitcher. Legendary. His team was "The King and His Court" and it was a FOUR man team! Eddie said he only needed two, him and a catcher - but if his team got two men on base no one was left to hit lol. He struck out several major leaguers in a softball game, including Mays!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Feigner
@@mulehead126 Yes!! I had a feeling you would know him. That guy was incredible
I coffee-spewed when I heard Sandy Koufax's name pronounced as "COW-fax" 😆 🤣
Lefty Grove's stats should have been even better. He was intentionally kept in the minors a few extra years because the team owner didn't want to lose him. His record as a pitcher in the minors was 108-36. He also has games in the minors where he had to play play first base because no one wanted to catch his fastball. He is on the short list of GOAT pitcher candidates. Playing in an offensive-pumped decade, that's like trying to play defense in the NBA today. If you're good, you're REALLY good.
I do find it funny how all the other people on the list have a minute or so for each explanation, but Cy Young is more or less "Yeah, it's Cy Young. What more do you need?"
A little line of "he pitched so much that he just has to be on the list" would have been funny. I think Young is a great example of just showing up for work every day and having the endurance and stamina to see games through to their end.
A top ten without Gibson,Carlton and Ryan is about as bogus as it gets.
Any list of greatest Pitchers of all time without Nolan Ryan is a complete Farce.
Unless you’re talking about cy young winners I guess
How do you not have Nolan Ryan or Steve Carlton on this list?
Not to mention Ryan is as absurd as Pete Rose not being in the HOF.
This list is clearly tilted in favor of the dead-ball era pitchers (although Johnson also pitched for several years in the live-ball era). The biggest overlook is Satchel Paige. The problem is that the records for the Negro Leagues are incomplete, and also that they didn't play nearly as many league games as they have in the other major leagues, so those players in the Negro Leagues didn't get to accumulate the huge season or career numbers.
Bruh. Nolan Ryan never existed I guess
Dang it.. you’re right! now we gotta do a round 2….
Not on this list due to 292 career losses & the most walks in history.
Tremendous stuff but basically a .500 pitcher.
@@kharmaticmushroom nah your fine. Nolan Ryan was the third best pitcher of his era and walked everybody. Sorry Nolan Ryan is not top 10. Prob top 15, def top 20, but not even close to top ten.
He was the third best pitcher of his era. More importantly who on this list is he better than? Not even close to the level of this crop of dudes. Too many flaws to be top 10.
I’m taking Bob Gibson in my starting rotation, always, over Roger Clemens.
Cy Young
AI has never stepped in the batters box against Nolan Ryan or Bob Gibson
Really happy to see Maddux on this, and shocked that someone would make a video like this and cannot pronounce Koufax' name. I wonder how many more games Maddux might have won if he hadn't had to pitch to Bonds, Sosa, McGuire, etc. and how many fewer games Clemens might have won if not for steroids.
If we judge Maddux for the regular season games, I guess he should be in that list, but he always disappointed in postseason. For that solely reason he shouldn't be there
He might have stayed healthier thus played longer?!
I've been asked by our gracious A.I. Host (not really) to provide a list to Nolan Ryan excuse makers of pitchers in the 1970s who won the Cy Young Award, despite pitching for bad or so-so teams:
Bob Gibson: 1970
Fergie Jenkins: 1971
Steve Carlton: 1972
Gaylord Perry: 1972
Tom Seaver: 1973
Tom Seaver: 1975
Randy Jones: 1976
Gaylord Perry: 1978
Thank you for your time and attention in this matter.
I think maybe we missed someone. 😂
@@kharmaticmushroom Ah yes, the '71 Cubs were pretty so-so, Fergie. Sutter was a reliever in '79. Wow, nearly half the Cy Young winning starters in the Seventies did it on 'eh' teams.
How's Nolan Ryan not in there ?
Seriously!
Because the host already told 4 other people that winning a Cy Young Award -- just one -- sure might have helped his cause.
A list of top pitchers without Nolan Ryan is BULL SHIT ! 7 no-hitters may be the most incredible record in all sports history !
Couple things. This video came out 4 days ago. 4:52 Braves *only* WS title? They won it again 2 years ago...
2.) You can take the cheater Roger Clemens off the list since he isn't getting into the hof, and probably replace him with Clayton Kershaw once he hangs up the cleats (or right now. He's the best of his generation and one of the top-10, for sure. He's also better than Clemens, who's numbers are certainly skewed.) Clemens doesn't deserve to belong on this list.
We’re gonna fox that…
With some really advanced analysis, I currently have Kershaw #11, pending the rest of his career. He needs to get those innings up over 3000.
If starting a franchise, I would select Steve Carlton ahead of all other pitchers. Carlton could shut down the running game with his great pickoff move while some of the other great pitchers were easy to steal bases.
This is a bogus list without Nolan Ryan on it
Nolan isn't even top 15
Overrated
@@Mynipplesmychoice Johnson and Clemons are overrated
Shots fired! 😂
@@mitchelvalentino1569 if you strike out the side after giving up a walk, sure I don’t mind it. Which he did a lot.
He has a record of .204 batting average against, and 6.6 hits per 9.
Giving up a walk if you get everyone else out isn’t so bad.
He has a better career ERA (3.19) than Randy Johnson (3.29), Lefty Gomez (3.34), and Bob Feller (3.25). So it’s not like those walks were amounting to much.
He’s definitely top 10.
Ryan holds 51 total MLB records, including:
5,714 career strikeouts (next-most is Randy Johnson with 4,875)
7 career no-hitters (next-most is Sandy Koufax with 4)
Lowest career batting average allowed (minimum 1,500 innings pitched): .204
12 career 1-hitters, tied with Bob Feller
18 career 2-hitters
31 career 3-hitters
15 200-strikeout seasons
6 300-strikeout seasons
4 career 19+ strikeout games
5 career 18+ strikeout games
8 career 17+ strikeout games
16 career 16+ strikeout games
26 career 15+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher
36 career 14+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher
56 career 13+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher
95 career 12+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher
151 career 11+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher
215 career 10+ strikeout games
282 career 9+ strikeout games
358 career 8+ strikeout games
447 career 7+ strikeout games
517 career 6+ strikeout games
596 career 5+ strikeout games
654 career 4+ strikeout games
710 career 3+ strikeout games
752 career 2+ strikeouts games
3 19+ strikeout games, single season (1974)
3 18+ strikeout games, single season (1974)
3 17+ strikeout games, single season (1974)
3 16+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher, single season (1972, 1974)
6 15+ strikeout games, single season (1974 - tied with Pedro Martinez)
15 12+ strikeout games, single season (1973)
18 11+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher, single season (1973)
23 10+ strikeout games, single season (1973 - tied with Randy Johnson)
26 9+ strikeout games, single season (1973)
29 8+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher, single season (1973)
32 7+ strikeout games by a right-handed pitcher, single season (1973)
36 6+ strikeout games, single season (1974 - tied with Sandy Koufax)
6.55 hits per nine innings pitched, career, minimum 1,000 innings (next-fewest is Sandy Koufax at 6.79)
5.26 single-season hits per nine innings (1972)
26 seasons with at least one win
Ryan's main strengths were velocity, a good curveball, and most of all, longevity. He was hard to hit, that's for sure. But he also walked more batters than anyone else. That's why he isn't in the top 10.
@@TomKingsleyB I'm sorry but Nolan is in the top 3 of every record a pitcher can have , and yet not in the top ten. Are you kidding me!
Lovely, you ignored his record of 2795 walks, which gives him 1.247 WHIP - higher than many non-hofers, let alone guys on the list. He's also the first pitchers to give up 10 grand slams, and I think it's still a record. Give me the record of 4 straight CYs, which sadly not held by a guy named Nolan, oh he doesn't even have one.
In 1916.... pitched 325 innings with a 1.75 ERA
Lefty Grove AND Greg Maddox BOTH never pitched 300 innings in any season of their careers and each led the lead in innings pitched 4 years in a row. Neither pitched under a 2.00 ERA....
Rivera never pitched more than 75 innings in a season and only broke the 1.75 mark TWICE...
Nolan only pitch sub 2.00 era once with only 149 innings pitched.
Only pitched over 300 innings once.
Babe has the best 5 year numbers of any lefthand pitcher in MLB history. If he had been used to dominate hitting..... He'd have the best pitching of all time. He was un-hittable.
Nolan was a beast, but definitely not in the top 10 of all time.
Bob Gibson and that slider. He’s the rule changer and set the standard of excellence
No Bob Gibson Nolan Ryan ?
what about Nolan Ryan. strike out king, 7 no hitters, fastest fast ball, 12-6 curve ball etc etc
I think the ai missed Nolan Ryan
1. Sandy Koufax 2. Bob Gibson 3. Walter Johnson 4 Juan Marichal 5. Tom Seaver 6. Greg Maddux 7. Satchel Paige 8. Pedro Martinez 9. Randy Johnson 10. Bob Feller
Good list
How can you not list Nolan as #1 7 no hitters 1000 more strike outs than The Unit plus the I cident with Salazar alone should put him on th he list
Steve Carlton, Bob Gibson, Nolan Ryan, (separate category for relief pitchers)
That’s a great idea 💡
If you’re going to have Randy Johnson on here you better have the Gunslinger himself Nolan Ryan.
Pedro Martinez over Warren Spahn (winningest lefty in history), Steve Carlton, Bob Feller, Bob Gibson, Ferguson Jenkins, Jim Palmer?
Yes and that’s easy. Pedro is a top 5 all time pitcher. I’m a Phillies fan and Carlton shouldn’t be on this list. I theink Feller and Gibson are the closest (Cy Young prob shouldn’t be on here lol) and Spahn are all above a guy like Nolan Ryan to me.
Lefty won 27 games in a season the Phillies only won 59. Nuff said
What gives pedro major points is how much better he was than the rest of the league in his prime. Having a sub- 2 era when everyone was jacked on steroids is amazing. Warren Spahn should have been on this list. Even Whitey Ford, who did nothing but win.
I knew this list was gonna be bad when it put Randy Johnson at 10. Only 1 person is better and that’s Ryan and he’s not even on the list lol
Nolan Ryan!!!!
Do not believe Nolan Ryan did not make this list. Gregg Maddox over Nolan Ryan?
Maddux had slightly better era and peak period.
What about Warren Spahn?
Where's Nolan?
Lemme explain Nolan Ryan was a guy who walked a lot even tho he has those no hitters and strikeouts he went under 300 wins he also Walked a lot of batters in the no hitters never letting him have a prefect game unlike the pitchers here he also had a high era making him never win a cy young
Nolan is an anomaly. When just going by statistics he doesn't rank highly. Because don't account for everything. There are some really good videos on him and why he doesn't rank high they way statistics are made. So in a video that only accounts for statistics he most will never be on it.
Watching videos and documentary on Nolan has made me appreciate how great he was. I hope as the game gets more obsessed with stats people don't forget players like Nolan just because there stats are as good as some others.
@@markwalker7286 yeah it doesn't account for the terrible teams he played on that couldn't score runs
He’s winding up to throw ball four to the lead-off batter.
@@randommhafan1370 3.19 era is not high. Greg Maddux had a 3.16 era, Steve Carlton had 3.22, Justin Verlander 3.24, Randy Johnson 3.29. I could go on.
He had an below average ERA and led the league in era 2 seasons and was in top 5 era in multiple seasons.
His main problem was he was on very bad offensive teams who gave him no run support.
His only negative (that he had any control over) is his walk ratio.
What about Bob Gibson or Nolan Ryan?
I can’t believe, the one and only Nolan Ryan wasn’t even in the top 10!!!!!!! I get if he isn’t everyone’s number one but he is easily arguably the greatest pitcher of all time!!! Worse case, he should have been in the TOP 10!!!!!!!! This might be one of if not the worse tops 10 ranking where arguably most peoples greatest was left out. It’s like leaving out Kobe Bryant or Willy Mays in their respective sport’s greatest players!! I know for sure most of the people who is a true baseball fan would agreed with. I can’t believe it
Nope. Pete Maravich is a better example. Like Ryan, Pistol Pete did things at the time no one else could... but he was never considered the best of his time.
How is Nolan Ryan not on this list? That’s ridiculous.
You’re telling me!!!!!
Nolan Ryan, Bob Gibson, Mariano Rivera, so many left off in top 10. But there are only 10.
I remember Bob Gibson, Ferguson Jenkins, Satchel Page. Can't compare someone who played in the 20s with the guys from the late 60s on. Different era. Players today are more athletic, stronger, the game has changed.
How on earth does Nolan Ryan not get on this list? His only knock is that he was on bad offensive teams, which is why his wins are down. 7 no hitters, all time strikeout leader. I have to give this a thumbs down. you can't tell me that Seaver and Lefty Grove, were better than Ryan and Carlton.
Nolan Ryan. AI has a bug if it doesn't list him.
I know that a top 10 will have to leave off several great pitchers but there is one that has got to not only be on this list but at or near the top. Ever hear of Nolan Ryan? I know not all of his stats were great but most of them were. When I look at too 10’s the only ones he seems to make are the ones voted on by fans. I realize he had a lot of walks and only 1 World Series appearance I think but he checks all of the other boxes and then some. He pitched with more dominance than many of the men on this list. He had twice as many wins as Sandy Cow-fax lol. I know it’s hard to get down to 10 especially on this list but I’m just a fan that thinks he was the greatest!
Apparently AI really missed that one big time
Doug I get it….but answer me this, if lick anyone to start game 7 in a World Series and the opponents lineup is balanced on both side of the plate, you would pick Ryan over big train, Koufax, even Seaver, Clemens, all healthy and in their primes? That said, if your you are signing a pitcher to a long term contract Ryan is right up there along with Seaver, Walter johnson, Maddox, Spahn.
You also have to remember that Nolan Ryan played much of his career with the angels who were horrible. His stats would have been much better with any other team. Oh yeah and I forgot the Mets.
If Nolan Ryan had an offensive team to pitch for, he would unquestionably be the GOAT. While I did not see him in the sixties and seventies, I did get the privilege of watching him pitch in the eighties and ninety's. He was a machine. It must have been very hard on the man to pitch eight innings of two-run ball, and lose by a score of 2-1 so many times. Yet...he is the all-time strike-out king. Go figure. Yeah...the AI surely missed this man!
Ryan is the most overrated pitcher in history.
This was ludicrous! Nolan Ryan? Bob Gibson? Bob Feller?
I have no problem with this list, but there are others as the comments below suggest. For my suggestion, I would include Warren Spahn for he holds one record that will never be broken. He pitched 20 or more complete games for 13 consecutive seasons, and then there was Satchel Paige, et al.
Thanks for the input stay tuned for a more reflective round 2
Nolan Ryan…more no hitters and more strikeouts than ANYBODY and did you check his age when he pitched the last no hitter? With modern technology it was determined that he had a fastball that went up to 109 mph, and his longevity of that fastball was incredible. How could you possibly leave him off this list? But then again… when the guy who is going to tell us about the best all-time pitchers calls our man “Cow-fax”??? Enough said.
If Nolan Ryan threw 8 no hitters, would he have made this list? He won more games than five players on this list. He has almost 1000 more career strikeouts than anyone else. He has more career shut outs than six pictures on this list.
We are going to apply some more defined parameters and see what we come up with, stay tuned for round 2
It was like he got black-balled for some reason. He was a fantastic pitcher!
And he led the league in walks 8 times, never won a Cy Young and his lifetime WHIP isn't even in the top 300. You left those parts out...
I put Bob Gibson in any top 10 list given his career longevity and his world series play. In the world series seasons of 1964, 1967, amd 1968 he carried the Cardinals with a 7-2 record. Post season play is a good judge of comparison with other pitchers. There have been numerous pitchers who in post season against the best just do not match up with their regular season perfomance. At a glance I would replace him over Sandy Koufax. I grew up in the 1960s and for 6 seasons Sandy Koufax was a great pitcher but his previous 6 seasons were average at best. He also pitched very well in post season.. I have read that today he would have likely been given Tommy John surgery to prolong his career. Perhaps Warren Spahn might even replace that spot as well on the list.. Grover Cleveland (Pete) Alexander may be a better choice than Cy Young from the early days of baseball. He became a Cardinals legend when he played for the Cardinals in his 40s but look at all his prior seasons with the Cubs and Phillies. Don't get me wrong though about Sandy Koufax. From 1961 through 1966 he was a great pitcher. I remember that well when he pitched against the Cardinals.
I liked the video. But how can you have a top ten pitchers without Bob Gibson and Nolan Ryan?
Sandy Koufax at his best beat all of his contemporaries regularly. He pitched 4 no hitters and a perfect game. He was the first pitcher in 20 years to have an ERA below 2, doing so 3 times. Reprogram your AI
and then himself admitted Kershaw was better😂
I’ll take Koufax over all of them
When he was on a roll, unhittable. My grandfather who was born in 1917 said he was the best he'd ever seen. Put Bob Gibson right up there with him. Had fun watching Randy Jones' 1976 Cy Young season with him at Jack Murphy stadium.
Nolan Ryan has 7 no-hitters, 3 more than the next closest Sandy Koufax (pronounced Ko-fax, it is the live (long "i") ball era) Ryan is also the career strikeout leader by a wide margin, Clemons used steroids to achieve is late career results to such a significant degree that he is not in the Hall of Fame. Clemons is typically left off these lists because he cheated. You dismiss this out of hand. Your AI is dependent on the algorithm that drives it. There seem to be a lot of things left off. Finally, wins are not always a good measure of a pitcher's quality. Pitching for a poor hitting or otherwise weak team will cut into this statistic
Take Maddux off.....he was an umpire favorite, who got tons of run support
Really doubt the umpire thing. Plus his Era was good and not dependent on his team’s batting.
@@ron88303 You didnt watch enough Braves games....Umps always give the media favorites a generous strike zone!....Maddox always got the questionable calls!...When he didnt he got beat or the team scored for him!...ERA is always good when you get those calls!
@@michaelnoviello6302 so do you think someone bribed them, or did they all just like Maddux that much?
@@ron88303 Umps trust the media, so popular guys get good calls...That goes for hitters as well....Umps trusted Ted Williams eyesight, so he got a ton of favorable calls!
Roger Clemens ahead of Nolan Ryan? Bullshit
This has to be the best top 10 MLB Pitcher list that I can remember seeing
• Honorable mention
Bob Gipson
Nolan Ryan
Gaylord Perry
Ferguson Jenkins
Roy Halliday
Steve Carlton
Bob Feller
CY Young pitched when baseball wasn't that competitive. Most of the ballplayers weren't that athletic and had jobs working on the railroad, farming,steel mills or something else.Warren Spahn,Bob Gibson and Nolan Ryan should be ahead of him.
This list is no way accurate without Bob Gibson and Nolan Ryan ! Need to reprogram the AI
We won’t argue about that
Nolan Ryan doesn't even come close to making that list. He never won a Cy Young, led the league in walks 8 times, and his lifetime WHIP of 1.247 doesn't even rank in the top 300!
@@mulehead126 agreed …..BUT…… 7 NoNo’s . Good enough for my top ten .😎😎
@@1brusco Ryan's definitely a special case.
The greatest pitcher in the history of professional baseball was a woman named Jean Faut. She played for the Racine Bluebells, which was a team in the All American Girls Professional Baseball League (the same league portrayed in the film "A league of their own"). She not only pitched two perfect games (a feat never matched by any other professional pitcher) she pitched three no hitters (the difference is that in a perfect game nobody makes it on base at all, and in a no hitter, someone get on base due to a walk or a struck batter, but does not score). Meaning that not only did she pitch two perfect games, she came close to pitching five. She also pitched an exhibition match wherein she struck out some of the greatest hitters of the 1940s and 1950s.
No pitcher has EVER done that well. Ever!
AI apparently hasn't learned correct pronunciation yet... Lol
Our bad, we’ll get that fixed next time!
what about nolan ryan? just one of the best ever!
Maybe top 50, but not top 10.
@@TomKingsleyB opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one and they all stink.
Based on the statistical facts, Nolan Ryan is definitely top 10. I won’t type out all of his records again, but his only negative was his walk ratio.
Easily top 5
@@uspockdad6429 Here is a statistical fact: Ryan was pretty much a .500 pitcher. Me, I kinda want a pitcher who wins a lot more games than he loses.
@@uspockdad6429 more negatives - no Cy Youngs and most importantly, his career WHIP wasn't even in the top 300...THREE HUNDRED.
Babe Ruth went head to head against Johnson 8 times. Ruth won 6 and they were low scoring affairs. That's how good Ruth was as a pircher.
For those times.
@@ron88303 There is no way to know with modern training, nutrition, knowledge, development of pitches how good or not Ruth might have been today.
What is almost certain is Ruth still today with all those things would be a great ball player. Perhaps not the phenomenon he was in his day because he set those parameters, but he had superior innate skills for the game that would translate.
Cow fax?! Come on.
Our bad
The career leader of strikeouts and no hitters is not included
proof AI is flawed to the max/
Nolan Ryan!!!
Barely .500 win percentage.
Babe Ruth..... Best 4 years of lefthanded pitching EVER. The last game he pitched?? 14 inning shutout to win the World Series for Boston in game 6. Then it was off to New York to dominate hitting. But he was UN-HITTABLE as a pitcher....
Wow didn’t know that
@@kharmaticmushroom
In 1916.... pitched 325 innings with a 1.75 ERA
Lefty Grove AND Greg Maddox BOTH never pitched 300 innings in any season of their careers and each led the lead in innings pitched 4 years in a row. Neither pitched under a 2.00 ERA....
Rivera never pitched more than 75 innings in a season and only broke the 1.75 mark TWICE...
Now think about how DOMINATE of a right fielder Babe was. Before cameras, he was SKINNY and was FAST too.
Greatest hitter, pitcher and all around baseball machine of ALL TIME. He could have played in any era....
He had several starts for the Yankees (pitching) after that.
@@lordofthemound3890
The starters must have needed a day off and the division was a lock at the end of the season because he wasn't very good. But... as a young starter in the rotation??? The best lefty to ever pitch. Pitch like Mariano Rivera but for COMPLETE GAMES instead of one inning.
meta ai
Here are the top pitchers in Major League Baseball history:
Top 10 Pitchers of All Time
1. Sandy Koufax: A three-time Cy Young Award winner and four-time World Series champion, known for his impressive fastball and curveball ¹.
2. Tom Seaver: A three-time Cy Young Award winner and twelve-time All-Star, nicknamed "The Franchise" for his incredible career ¹ ².
3. Cy Young: The winningest pitcher in MLB history with 511 victories, also the namesake of the Cy Young Award ¹ ² ³.
4. Christy Mathewson: A two-time World Series champion and five-time ERA leader, considered one of the greatest pitchers of the early 20th century ² ³.
5. Walter Johnson: A two-time World Series champion and eleven-time strikeout leader, known for his blazing fastball ¹ ² ³.
6. Greg Maddux: A four-time Cy Young Award winner and eighteen-time Gold Glove winner, renowned for his control and strategic pitching ¹ ².
7. Randy Johnson: A five-time Cy Young Award winner and ten-time All-Star, known for his dominant fastball and intimidating presence ¹ ² ³.
8. Steve Carlton: A four-time Cy Young Award winner and ten-time Gold Glove winner, considered one of the greatest left-handed pitchers ¹ ².
9. Lefty Grove: A two-time World Series champion and seven-time ERA leader, known for his impressive curveball and control ² ³.
10. Phil Niekro: A five-time Gold Glove winner and three-time All-Star, famous for his knuckleball and longevity ²[3).
Not to mention, Satchel Paige
Seaver. Those old heads as top 3. 2 of 3 didn't even throw mid 90's. Dead ball area etc. Wtf
How is Steve Carlton not on here..
Good point!
exactly !
Thought for a minute Allen Iverson was doing the rankings. 😎
Here are 4 pitchers who deserve mention (and would rate them over Clemons). Bob Feller, Warren Spahn, Bob Gibson, Nolan Ryan.
Bob Gibson, Nolan Ryan, Jim Palmer
If this was a list of top 10 most impressive pitchers I’d put Nolan Ryan on it. There’s a certain shock and awe aspect to him not to mention his longevity (and strikeouts and no hitters and that godly fastball). But he walked a shitload of batters and for much of his career was wild. He’s top 10 for me as far as riveting pitchers I’d glue myself to my chair to watch pitch - but I don’t think he’s in the top 10 of actually best pitchers.
The old-time pitchers pitched for more complete games, which inflates their win-loss stats, given that their opponents were more likely to be pitching complete games too (and therefore pitching worse in late innings when these pitchers teams' offenses were scoring more runs). This also has to be a big factor that explains why hitters don't hit 400 any more - relief pitching must be harder to hit than a pitcher who is tired and whose pitches the batter has seen several times already in the same game.
"How could you exclude 'X' player...?"
Guys, a computer, who has never watched a baseball game, made this list. I doubt it's reading the comments.
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How could Dock Ellis be excluded? Guy threw a no-hitter while tripping on LSD.
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He’s our favorite hahaha 🤣
The great sportswriter, Shirly Povich agrees with you about "The Big Train". Walter Johnson. I think you need to make room in your top 10 for Satchel Paige.
walter johnson was the best pitcher the nationals ever had!
The only one I have an issue with is cy young. Idk. I think of Grover Alexander or Ed Walsh. But you have 10-5 dead on.
Cow fax!
Pretty good vid. It seems you are a newish channel so some friendly advice. When mispronounce names of superstars it tells the potential subscriber that you have a lack of knowledge about the subject and are just reciting a script.
Lastly… it was the LIVE ball area. Pronounced like Alive. Not the Liv ball era.
Randy Johnson? Everything about that guy makes me believe that he really wasn't born on Earth. No freakin' way. I can't imagine how even the biggest players feared having to face him in the batters box.
Special mention for knuckleballer Phil Niekro who had 318 victories over a 24 season career.
None of the pitchers you listed has a better winning percentage than Whitey Ford or Kershaw. If my life depended on winning a baseball game, Koufax or Martinez would be on the mound for my team.
Good list. Any pitchers list is void without Walter Johnson at #1.
The A's went to three straight world series 1929,1930,1931 winning in 29 and 30 losing in 31
Good list. Always debatable. Nolan Ryan is an interesting case. Lots of K's and no-hitters, but also lots of walks and losses. Longevity was a strong point. Curious how he re-established his fastball so late in his career. Good list.
Career Era also a strong point.
was a legendary pitcher who comes in at number on our countdown of the greatest pitchers of all time...repeat 9 more times.
That’s why we put the time stamps on the pinned comments. We realize the format get repetitive. Thanks for watchingz
The computer forgot Nolan Ryan
So how does the AI work, what are the inputs. This video just sounded like another top 10 list.
We just ask it to rank the top ten pitchers of all time. If you see any incorrect info please comment it