Phreak : "according to the data, adc wins in 50% of all games in all elos. Its fundamentaly balanced and right where we are looking to keep them." 😂 results based analysis can sometimes have issues. Phreak IS using objective data, but its clearly skewed and not the healthiest way to balance the game.
I’ve given up about complaining about my role as an adc. 3 years ago when Leona was able to 1v1 me while I twitch. While she had only support item I just stopped complaining. I embraced how shit my role way and I just live with it.
ADC is the Britney Spears of Roles. Was fire back in the day but never that popular with the everyday lowelo people. Now our abusive daddy support took control of our entire lives and we cant get any money without their permition
5:00 That is actually so annoying as a top laner, I notice it happen more and more where I just randomly see enemy support in my lane or in the bush jumping on me. Like having to deal with junglers dictating the outcome of the lane where getting a single solobolo is the end was enough, now I have to worry about two people. They don't even have to get a kill or anything just zone off of one wave or burn flash and you can't play the game for next 15 mins anymore (assuming you were even or even slightly ahead of enemy Top).
there's a reason i quit playing adc & ranked some seasons ago and have just been playing aram since then. way more fun and way less toxic excluding the occasional tryhard.
I used be to an AD main and now I tryhard ARAM with a couple of friends, but it's so funny when another friend occasionally plays with us because he's a top main and complains that he feels weak lol. Ofc he's weaker he's not 3 levels and 1 item ahead on the enemy players ahah. I really like the aram mecanics otherwise except for the existence of a few champs that just remove any fun when they're in the game (viego for example).
I think the support role in league isn't gonna be played how it used to bcs players understand the game on a deeper level now and take actions. I think what really needs to happen is sidelane turrets should get a change to not make them prisons/Targets. Maybe make the Alcove next to the sidelane turrets so you have some outplay potential under your turret or make the turret stronger. if you have to farm under your turret on sidelane you have less outplay potential than being in the middle of the lane. I think turrets dont provide enough safety for the early stages of the game anymore. Everything gets buffed except the towers ofc you will get dived right? or am i wrong?
support definitely is a problematic role poke mages shouldn't be able to function as supports. those champions are supposed to be balanced around a challenging laning phase in terms of CS and the danger of assassin matchups/ganks thing is, there are no assassins in botlane, junglers only care about toplane, and supports don't have to CS so the only thing they have to worry abt is how to land brand E or Lux E (which are often undodgeable) this isn't fair, there shouldn't be a role which impacts so much by doing so little.
As a adc, I used to be abandoned but the most frustrating thing is sup clearing and destroying lane and blaming me. Sup cannot take all the gold and hide at the back to kill steal
why should adc players say anything? nothing is going to happen, maybe one patch adc will be fine but then they will nerf it again. then they'll say ad players are 'crying'.. so whats the point
As support main supports need to be nerfed. If you do not play Janna you will 100% lose 6 voids just becouse of her ms. Main problem with support is Mao and Janna.
It's funny what Caedrel said about roaming supports and how he feels they shouldn't be in the game. When I play, I agree, roaming sup is annoying, but when I watch pro play? I love it and find roaming sup very entertaining
I feel the people that say Caedral's chat is toxic saw those comments although it might just be the constant degen spam but idk. Im just a YT frog so it doesn't matter to me much.
Both teams have a support and can do the exact same thing…. The game should be more about bot lane than the others because you have two people in it…. The best thing you can do for bot lane if you mess your lane up is leave it….
Tbf adc players were notorious whiners even when the role was busted and one damage-dealer and 4 tanks were considered "balanced comps". I can understand Phreak being done with them, although he's definitely a terrible communicator and literally makes you feel like shit because you're asking a question that has already been addressed within the balance team
The reason people don’t complain anymore is because people more and more understand that they’re being scammed and the game has been rotting from the inside since 2019. So long story short - they moved on.
Hot take. Adc items are kept trash because they have to keep the Windshitters from being insanely op I seriously think they need to reconsider how Yas and Yone scale off attack speed and Crit
Holy moly caedrel is actually very very reasonable and good at going through the requests? Sounds like he hadn't much before, it'll be interesting to see how he tries to keep shaping the culture
The one thing i hate about phreak is that him saying that people are building wrong and people build right items these champs would be balanced. Him telling adc players to buy useless early item like sheildbow which gives no value to you . Recently he said sivir would have been balanced if she bought static shiv first and and senna sp to buy ghostblade after it got heavily nerfed for ranged. These arguments doesn't work in balance. He shouldn't be in the balance team
oops i gave enemy ad a kill, thats fine hes playing an adc so he will not carry so i will just perma roam with first item mobi's and be the strongest role in the game for 20 minutes. Oh my ad died under tower 3x? thats okay hes playing ad he was going to be useless anyway
I think riot should "fix" the xp again i know snowballing would be fking insane but i mean if you leave lane to push/harras or even get a kill here and there you shouldn't be 2 lvls ahead of the sup that stay in lane and ate 4 waves
clip of Caedrel saying "true" 17 times
😂xdd
now bauss should react to this and the circle is complete
And midbeast react to bauss reacting to this, then its complete
More unban requests please, they are so fucking good xdd
most were sexist or racist if you watched the stream
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Phreak : "according to the data, adc wins in 50% of all games in all elos. Its fundamentaly balanced and right where we are looking to keep them." 😂 results based analysis can sometimes have issues. Phreak IS using objective data, but its clearly skewed and not the healthiest way to balance the game.
What he should instead look at is how much ADC impacted those won games. You know there is a problem, when the CARRY role is never the carry anymore.
@@jormungandr4690 u don’t get the joke do you?
@@jormungandr4690 50%
@@jormungandr4690 Winning team has adc and losing team has adc so it's 50%.
Reminds me of a saying. "The only reason ADCs win games is because the other team also has an ADC." -Sun Tzu
I’ve given up about complaining about my role as an adc. 3 years ago when Leona was able to 1v1 me while I twitch. While she had only support item I just stopped complaining. I embraced how shit my role way and I just live with it.
Still to this day leona can 1v1 you as a carry I gave up on that shit and have gone jungle.
That cause every time an adc complains we get called cry babies and told it’s a skill diff
ADC is the Britney Spears of Roles. Was fire back in the day but never that popular with the everyday lowelo people. Now our abusive daddy support took control of our entire lives and we cant get any money without their permition
lowkey perfect analogy
She was really hot back when she sang Toxic
You forgot the serious mental illness part out of your analogy
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5:00 That is actually so annoying as a top laner, I notice it happen more and more where I just randomly see enemy support in my lane or in the bush jumping on me. Like having to deal with junglers dictating the outcome of the lane where getting a single solobolo is the end was enough, now I have to worry about two people. They don't even have to get a kill or anything just zone off of one wave or burn flash and you can't play the game for next 15 mins anymore (assuming you were even or even slightly ahead of enemy Top).
Last 10 seconds are Caedrel thinking oh god what have I done
there's a reason i quit playing adc & ranked some seasons ago and have just been playing aram since then. way more fun and way less toxic excluding the occasional tryhard.
I used be to an AD main and now I tryhard ARAM with a couple of friends, but it's so funny when another friend occasionally plays with us because he's a top main and complains that he feels weak lol. Ofc he's weaker he's not 3 levels and 1 item ahead on the enemy players ahah. I really like the aram mecanics otherwise except for the existence of a few champs that just remove any fun when they're in the game (viego for example).
I think the support role in league isn't gonna be played how it used to bcs players understand the game on a deeper level now and take actions. I think what really needs to happen is sidelane turrets should get a change to not make them prisons/Targets. Maybe make the Alcove next to the sidelane turrets so you have some outplay potential under your turret or make the turret stronger. if you have to farm under your turret on sidelane you have less outplay potential than being in the middle of the lane. I think turrets dont provide enough safety for the early stages of the game anymore. Everything gets buffed except the towers ofc you will get dived right? or am i wrong?
I do kind of agree on this take, feels like you can see dives on pro play min 3 if jungler paths correctly
Tell me u are low elo without telling me that u are low elo
support definitely is a problematic role
poke mages shouldn't be able to function as supports. those champions are supposed to be balanced around a challenging laning phase in terms of CS and the danger of assassin matchups/ganks
thing is, there are no assassins in botlane, junglers only care about toplane, and supports don't have to CS so the only thing they have to worry abt is how to land brand E or Lux E (which are often undodgeable)
this isn't fair, there shouldn't be a role which impacts so much by doing so little.
As a adc, I used to be abandoned but the most frustrating thing is sup clearing and destroying lane and blaming me. Sup cannot take all the gold and hide at the back to kill steal
why should adc players say anything? nothing is going to happen, maybe one patch adc will be fine but then they will nerf it again. then they'll say ad players are 'crying'.. so whats the point
Everything Nemesis was right. Was exactly how I felt last two years. /Adc player
As support main supports need to be nerfed. If you do not play Janna you will 100% lose 6 voids just becouse of her ms. Main problem with support is Mao and Janna.
ill send 100 dollars to someone if they find me a recent caedrel upload where he isnt eating.
Yesterday i auto someone who had frozen heart and steelcaps for 28+13 damage, 14 autos in a row. Yeah i didnt queue adc after that game 😂.
we since long can controll the weather
the fact that youseebiggirl isnt even tied to the female titan angers me more than it should
so not only this is how i found out i got denied, they even cut it out in the clip?
way to out yourself as a weirdo
It's funny what Caedrel said about roaming supports and how he feels they shouldn't be in the game. When I play, I agree, roaming sup is annoying, but when I watch pro play? I love it and find roaming sup very entertaining
as a d4 that constantly get demoted to emerald 1, i want to kms.
if you nerf supp, keria will just play adc supp. breaking the meta again
You don't get it. Nerf support item and support income, not support champions. The role =/= the champions
no beacuse adc wont be buffed support will be nerfed
I feel the people that say Caedral's chat is toxic saw those comments although it might just be the constant degen spam but idk. Im just a YT frog so it doesn't matter to me much.
Both teams have a support and can do the exact same thing…. The game should be more about bot lane than the others because you have two people in it…. The best thing you can do for bot lane if you mess your lane up is leave it….
Just like how your father left you? No wonder you're so challenged LMAO
not saying anything about adc, just stopped playing =(
Tbf adc players were notorious whiners even when the role was busted and one damage-dealer and 4 tanks were considered "balanced comps". I can understand Phreak being done with them, although he's definitely a terrible communicator and literally makes you feel like shit because you're asking a question that has already been addressed within the balance team
Most base ADC main comment at 4:51
The reason people don’t complain anymore is because people more and more understand that they’re being scammed and the game has been rotting from the inside since 2019. So long story short - they moved on.
buff adc
There are worse people in other channels…
xpp
I am literally just a girl xdd
ddx
Nah adcs can suffer, as a support they just run into tower and fight level 3 them either run it down mid or afk, they are the least mentally stable
i would run it down too if i probably had you as supp
says the xerath support main
Buddy that’s just how it is when you’re below gold
And this kind of people playing support are the ones that make adcs toxic
@@abouttime2569 I have no xerath games👍 I play naut/rell/rakan the most
Hot take. Adc items are kept trash because they have to keep the Windshitters from being insanely op
I seriously think they need to reconsider how Yas and Yone scale off attack speed and Crit
Holy moly caedrel is actually very very reasonable and good at going through the requests? Sounds like he hadn't much before, it'll be interesting to see how he tries to keep shaping the culture
Clip of Cadreal reacting to Nem who is reacting to the Baus.... Reactionception in this piece....
react of the react of the react
I expected the unban request to be worse
they cut out a lot of sexist and racist shit
The one thing i hate about phreak is that him saying that people are building wrong and people build right items these champs would be balanced. Him telling adc players to buy useless early item like sheildbow which gives no value to you . Recently he said sivir would have been balanced if she bought static shiv first and and senna sp to buy ghostblade after it got heavily nerfed for ranged. These arguments doesn't work in balance. He shouldn't be in the balance team
oops i gave enemy ad a kill, thats fine hes playing an adc so he will not carry so i will just perma roam with first item mobi's and be the strongest role in the game for 20 minutes. Oh my ad died under tower 3x? thats okay hes playing ad he was going to be useless anyway
ADC is weak if you are not playing smolder or senna
How to get unbanned by caedrel:
1. step one be subbed
I think riot should "fix" the xp again i know snowballing would be fking insane but i mean if you leave lane to push/harras or even get a kill here and there you shouldn't be 2 lvls ahead of the sup that stay in lane and ate 4 waves
nerf support = auto fill support every game, im top main