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Interesting video as I've never done t5. Highest ive doen is t4 really long time ago but with Aussie ping and random disconnects I don't want to risk it lol. 👍
aussie ping and disconnects?? where do u live man? like what part of australia because here on the east coast I dont get any disconnects and my ping is around 30-35ms. no issues of what u are describing
@@Sgotya the laws of physics disagree with you. Servers in Iceland, Australia ping is going to be 300ms+ purely because of the distance packets need to travel.
@snuffau well, according to the test ping site for eve online, I was getting that ping. If it's wrong, then whatever. I know I don't get disconnects like the OP says and we are both from Australia.
Oy, that was today :) I was in the chat channel but apparently not paying enough attention to it (blink off)... So ... hi Zaqq! On topic: i watch the videos for the content and listen to your narration. So any imperfections in the audio do not really register until it surpasses an annoyance level (if you get my drift). But ... next time you mention PeBBleBeach Parking I sure gonna analyse the mic quality :) :)
Hehe yea man if your on about the super old pew pew pew sound. I have some samples still from way back. Might be fun to overlay them on vid sometime. Thanks for watching.
More so in T6 with 70%. Nova deffo better. And use therm or kin for ephi's. I'd use rage too. Applies pretty much the same to frigates and drones. And way more damage to cruisers and up.
Hey sorry late reply. The isk vs t5 vs t6 is huge imo, as is the risk though. Havbt got solid numbers but definitely a jug step up. How are you getting on with it all ?
@@zaqq Thats why I was asking, I'm terrified of losing the ship and implants so I don't mind blinging it up a bit to give me a larger safety net. I want to run T6 so that's why I was asking for the cheapest fit so I can use that as a base and feel more confident running those sites for isk generation and fun.
@@sanik9581 Yea get yea. Maybe have enough back up isk to replace a set and a ship just in case, things happen cant be helped. Was gonna say theres a couple of people who you can look up which will have vids on t6 stuff, they will probably know better than me to. Gustav Manfred and a guy called I-401 did some cheapish stuff with an ishtar a while back. Might be worth a look.
@@zaqq I ended up getting: [Gila, Gila T5 Exotic Passive Abysall] Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier Gistum B-Type 10MN Afterburner Republic Fleet Shield Recharger Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender Dread Guristas Rapid Light Missile Launcher Dread Guristas Rapid Light Missile Launcher Dread Guristas Rapid Light Missile Launcher Dread Guristas Rapid Light Missile Launcher Consortium Small Tractor Beam Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Medium Core Defense Field Purger II Caldari Navy Vespa x10 Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1003 x1 Zainou 'Gnome' Shield Management SM-705 x1 Zainou 'Gnome' Shield Operation SP-905 x1 Drone Link Augmentor II x1 Zainou 'Deadeye' Guided Missile Precision GP-803 x1 Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile x15168 Nanite Repair Paste x100 'Packrat' Mobile Tractor Unit x1 Probably overspent, but didn't want to die. I was also thinking about buying the mid grade Hydra or Nirvana Set too. What do you think? Do you think this fit would work in T6 Gamma if I got the High-grade Nirvana Set?
bit of echo in the audio, might want to add more furniture to your room ;) there was also the occasional pop. nothing serious, solid quality overall. content great as always :)
Yea thanks for the feedback, gonna try the bigger mix sponge before buying some sound deadening gear, moved rooms in the house recently and it is mad echoey. Cheers dude.
dont know if the requirements for something were changed or if it was a typo, but i needed the Zainou 'Gypsy' CPU management EE-603 to make the fit work, not the 601 (have all relevant cpu skills). just a heads up. was rather confused as to why i was still a couple CPU short after getting everything in your list lol
Stick with Caldari navy inferno for the most part, if access to the t2 launchers then use those to but swap to the Inferno fury for the npc battleships. Cheers.
So I tried T4 in that ship right now. And I got perfect skills for Gila as well as Shields. Drones and missiles. And I was with 10% structure left... barely survived. It was a room with starving Cruiser + Battleship, Marking Cruiser and several frigates. I am not sure how I survived. But that was pure by accident there. So yeah this is NOT a T5 ship. Maybe it was accidentally lucky rooms you did before that you survived in it in T5. But yeah... really do NOT recommend people to go with this fit in relaxed mode. And definitely risky one.
Used it plenty in the t5s as have many others, but yea it can be risky. Totally worth throwing more isk at to be a bit safer. The abyss can be random af to, i almost list my t6 cerb in a t4 once, things happen. Cheers for watching.
@@zaqq thank you for replying. Did not expect that. But maybe worth a revision with like LSE and i use faction one. And maybe damage control... But then damage might not be enough for timer.
@@xolerick hey sorry for the late reply, yea faction extenders would be great and recommended to but for this the whole thing was to keep it as cheap as possible for the most part. I really like the passive regen fits for the gila for the ease of use, my go to T6 boat is the gila, although that's pretty expensive. Thanks again for the feedback and for watching.
the room with the marking is the hardest room. You need to take out the markings FAST(they target paint so cause the BS to hit WAY harder), you need to transverse and keep speed up which for this fit is hard without a AB. You also need to make sure you aren't in a blue cloud. If you land in a blue cloud you're first move is to get out asap. There are better fits for T4/T5 for sure, but as a "cheap" fit...ya.
This does not work. I died to karen in second room. 260m of signature is just too big. BUT! I also am of thinking that you need to have all skills on 5, and I do mean all of them plus at least mid tier implants to do t5. Also, I think abyss is rigged to die in. So that people buy plex to replace ships. In short, I am one step from throwing the towel in and deleting this game from memory. It is game for people that have 10+ years of advantage in it.
Saying this doesnt work doesnt make sense when I litterally run one in this vid lol. Granted its rough in some rooms, and ofcorse not ideal becuase budget but doable.
@@zaqq I ran one and got 33mil( 11mil after filament). I ran second and got blasted by second wave of karen. In first room, first karen, I killed karen first then everything else- I almost got killed so when I got karen again in second room( shields at 90+%) I killed everything else then her- but she killed me with 50% of hull left on her, for first minute she did not fired a shoot at me. My DPS was 607. My passive regen was 170. My sig was 260. I had all implants you put in and 6 different drugs( some bought, some from daily logins). I would love so much to play t5 to gain some isk, but fuk me 500 mil lost to a karen wave is a little bit too much. what will happen to it when marshals are spawned?
@@karlbroberg1652 ha yea, I recently did the cheap munnin fit and its only a couple of hundred mil so way cheaper. Only for t4 though. Might be work a look if you like your budget boats. Thanks mate.
@@zaqq currently looking at moving into t5s, I don't mind spending a bill or 2 on a ship, but I'm just trying to find something that doesn't need high grade implants. Ideally I'd like to be able to tackle t5 firestorms but that seems to be a bit of an ask
@@karlbroberg1652 will have a look when i get to pc mate. Also you could look up what aceface has on his channel, way more content and various ships and abyss than I have up. Off hand thinking cerb, gila or ikitursa would be fine tbh.
Cheap and t6 don't really go together tbh mate. For the gila especially your looking at a full pimp fit and atleast mid grade implant set etc. Maybe some thing I can look into some time though for sure man. Cheers.
is never worth to run "cheap" t6 unless u do multiboxing frigates, and even then, u lose money. You need to not die in t6 to make it profitable since anything able to run it is already very expensive to lose..
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Great vid...need to get back into the abyss. Your sound was SSMMMOOOOOTH!
Thanks mate, yea abyss is ok for some fast isk. Still tinkering with audio almost there. Appreciate the feedback. O7
Interesting video as I've never done t5. Highest ive doen is t4 really long time ago but with Aussie ping and random disconnects I don't want to risk it lol. 👍
Oh man I feel exactly the same, had a disco in an 8bil gila/pod. Rip. That's why I usually go cheap now. Cheers man
aussie ping and disconnects?? where do u live man? like what part of australia because here on the east coast I dont get any disconnects and my ping is around 30-35ms. no issues of what u are describing
@@Sgotya the laws of physics disagree with you. Servers in Iceland, Australia ping is going to be 300ms+ purely because of the distance packets need to travel.
@snuffau well, according to the test ping site for eve online, I was getting that ping. If it's wrong, then whatever. I know I don't get disconnects like the OP says and we are both from Australia.
If you get disconnected and lose a bling fit, try submitting a ticket. I know a lot of people who have had success in reimbursement from ccp
Oy, that was today :) I was in the chat channel but apparently not paying enough attention to it (blink off)... So ... hi Zaqq!
On topic: i watch the videos for the content and listen to your narration. So any imperfections in the audio do not really register until it surpasses an annoyance level (if you get my drift).
But ... next time you mention PeBBleBeach Parking I sure gonna analyse the mic quality :) :)
Ha np np and yea thanks man, will get it perfect eventually.
Man I'd love a return of that old pulse laser sound!
Hehe yea man if your on about the super old pew pew pew sound. I have some samples still from way back. Might be fun to overlay them on vid sometime. Thanks for watching.
Explosive ammo does more dps even without a bonus mate. All except for the ephi sleeper cruisers.
Hmm, would have to check the numbers for the next time injumpnin this thing. Unless you have a link to something? Cheers man. Appreciate.
More so in T6 with 70%. Nova deffo better. And use therm or kin for ephi's. I'd use rage too. Applies pretty much the same to frigates and drones. And way more damage to cruisers and up.
Another great and informative video. I wonder what the isk per hour difference minus the cost of the filment difference between the T5s and T6s?
Hey sorry late reply. The isk vs t5 vs t6 is huge imo, as is the risk though. Havbt got solid numbers but definitely a jug step up. How are you getting on with it all ?
@@zaqq Thats why I was asking, I'm terrified of losing the ship and implants so I don't mind blinging it up a bit to give me a larger safety net. I want to run T6 so that's why I was asking for the cheapest fit so I can use that as a base and feel more confident running those sites for isk generation and fun.
@@sanik9581 Yea get yea. Maybe have enough back up isk to replace a set and a ship just in case, things happen cant be helped. Was gonna say theres a couple of people who you can look up which will have vids on t6 stuff, they will probably know better than me to. Gustav Manfred and a guy called I-401 did some cheapish stuff with an ishtar a while back. Might be worth a look.
@@zaqq I ended up getting:
[Gila, Gila T5 Exotic Passive Abysall]
Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier
Caldari Navy Shield Power Relay
Dread Guristas Drone Damage Amplifier
Gistum B-Type 10MN Afterburner
Republic Fleet Shield Recharger
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Dread Guristas Rapid Light Missile Launcher
Dread Guristas Rapid Light Missile Launcher
Dread Guristas Rapid Light Missile Launcher
Dread Guristas Rapid Light Missile Launcher
Consortium Small Tractor Beam
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Caldari Navy Vespa x10
Zainou 'Deadeye' Rapid Launch RL-1003 x1
Zainou 'Gnome' Shield Management SM-705 x1
Zainou 'Gnome' Shield Operation SP-905 x1
Drone Link Augmentor II x1
Zainou 'Deadeye' Guided Missile Precision GP-803 x1
Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile x15168
Nanite Repair Paste x100
'Packrat' Mobile Tractor Unit x1
Probably overspent, but didn't want to die. I was also thinking about buying the mid grade Hydra or Nirvana Set too. What do you think?
Do you think this fit would work in T6 Gamma if I got the High-grade Nirvana Set?
audio always good mate!
Cheers man, always trying to improve.
Thanks for the fit - going to check this out!
Good luck man.
@@zaqq Hey that fit works really well by the way - thanks for taking the time to put this together!
@@tsallad good to hear man, still though get sone isk thrown at it for more peace at mind :). Cheers.
Not an Abyssal fan at all but great video mate! Fancy seeing if you can run C2 to C6 solo haha
C6 solo lul chris, there's probs a site you can cheese ha. Let me do some digging.
@@zaqq challenge yo self man! Haha
bit of echo in the audio, might want to add more furniture to your room ;) there was also the occasional pop. nothing serious, solid quality overall. content great as always :)
Yea thanks for the feedback, gonna try the bigger mix sponge before buying some sound deadening gear, moved rooms in the house recently and it is mad echoey. Cheers dude.
dont know if the requirements for something were changed or if it was a typo, but i needed the Zainou 'Gypsy' CPU management EE-603 to make the fit work, not the 601 (have all relevant cpu skills). just a heads up. was rather confused as to why i was still a couple CPU short after getting everything in your list lol
Cheers man will have a look and give you a shout back. Thanks
@@zaqq otherwise the fit has been doing great! even the marshal rooms dont seem to give me too much trouble, thanks for the fit!
@@Sindmar Yea was the 603 man cheers for the heads up. Glad its been working for ya man.
tried this fit in t4 3 times, died all 3 times
Bad luck
Run a Cerb...
Double Navy Web + Assault DC
Thank me later.
What are the best light missles to use? Kind regards David
Stick with Caldari navy inferno for the most part, if access to the t2 launchers then use those to but swap to the Inferno fury for the npc battleships. Cheers.
So I tried T4 in that ship right now. And I got perfect skills for Gila as well as Shields. Drones and missiles. And I was with 10% structure left... barely survived. It was a room with starving Cruiser + Battleship, Marking Cruiser and several frigates. I am not sure how I survived. But that was pure by accident there. So yeah this is NOT a T5 ship. Maybe it was accidentally lucky rooms you did before that you survived in it in T5. But yeah... really do NOT recommend people to go with this fit in relaxed mode. And definitely risky one.
Used it plenty in the t5s as have many others, but yea it can be risky. Totally worth throwing more isk at to be a bit safer. The abyss can be random af to, i almost list my t6 cerb in a t4 once, things happen. Cheers for watching.
@@zaqq thank you for replying. Did not expect that. But maybe worth a revision with like LSE and i use faction one. And maybe damage control... But then damage might not be enough for timer.
@@xolerick hey sorry for the late reply, yea faction extenders would be great and recommended to but for this the whole thing was to keep it as cheap as possible for the most part. I really like the passive regen fits for the gila for the ease of use, my go to T6 boat is the gila, although that's pretty expensive. Thanks again for the feedback and for watching.
the room with the marking is the hardest room. You need to take out the markings FAST(they target paint so cause the BS to hit WAY harder), you need to transverse and keep speed up which for this fit is hard without a AB. You also need to make sure you aren't in a blue cloud. If you land in a blue cloud you're first move is to get out asap. There are better fits for T4/T5 for sure, but as a "cheap" fit...ya.
Drones in the abyss scare me..
Cerb all the way tbh. Cheers.
i think low dps for t5 gamma (
Can be yea, overheat everything ha. Cheers man
more cheap last year? Cheaper last year
Cheaper last year.
last cheap more year!
This does not work.
I died to karen in second room.
260m of signature is just too big.
BUT!
I also am of thinking that you need to have all skills on 5, and I do mean all of them plus at least mid tier implants to do t5.
Also, I think abyss is rigged to die in. So that people buy plex to replace ships.
In short, I am one step from throwing the towel in and deleting this game from memory.
It is game for people that have 10+ years of advantage in it.
Saying this doesnt work doesnt make sense when I litterally run one in this vid lol. Granted its rough in some rooms, and ofcorse not ideal becuase budget but doable.
@@zaqq I ran one and got 33mil( 11mil after filament).
I ran second and got blasted by second wave of karen.
In first room, first karen, I killed karen first then everything else- I almost got killed so when I got karen again in second room( shields at 90+%) I killed everything else then her- but she killed me with 50% of hull left on her, for first minute she did not fired a shoot at me.
My DPS was 607.
My passive regen was 170.
My sig was 260.
I had all implants you put in and 6 different drugs( some bought, some from daily logins).
I would love so much to play t5 to gain some isk, but fuk me 500 mil lost to a karen wave is a little bit too much. what will happen to it when marshals are spawned?
It's 2023 now where tf is the update?????????????
this is the update
but wtf is the next update?! ;)@@zaqq
@@karlbroberg1652 ha yea, I recently did the cheap munnin fit and its only a couple of hundred mil so way cheaper. Only for t4 though. Might be work a look if you like your budget boats. Thanks mate.
@@zaqq currently looking at moving into t5s, I don't mind spending a bill or 2 on a ship, but I'm just trying to find something that doesn't need high grade implants. Ideally I'd like to be able to tackle t5 firestorms but that seems to be a bit of an ask
@@karlbroberg1652 will have a look when i get to pc mate. Also you could look up what aceface has on his channel, way more content and various ships and abyss than I have up. Off hand thinking cerb, gila or ikitursa would be fine tbh.
I've died almost instantly to marshal spawn in t4 abyss in a heavier tank gila than this.
Seems to be the worst room for these type of fits yea.
This fit wont survive marshals and élite cynbal
clicked on this video but then i remembered i'm not a broke bitch
Its nice being space rich.
Any cheap t6 build?
Cheap and t6 don't really go together tbh mate. For the gila especially your looking at a full pimp fit and atleast mid grade implant set etc. Maybe some thing I can look into some time though for sure man. Cheers.
@@zaqq Thanks man. Been watching for years. Keep up the good work
is never worth to run "cheap" t6 unless u do multiboxing frigates, and even then, u lose money. You need to not die in t6 to make it profitable since anything able to run it is already very expensive to lose..