The MOST important thing to High Scores in Archery | Compound Recurve Barebow Traditional Archery
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ค. 2024
- Often overlooked, the Tension and Direction of the archery shot can get lost in the details. This is CRITICAL to success, tight groups and ultimately high scores! Compound, Recurve, Barebow and Traditional Archery can all benefit from the principals outlined in this video.
I have covered this before but it is so important that I need to do a breakout/standalone video for the most important archery form step.
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I feel bad that sometimes I forget to like your videos, you have waaaay to many views for such a little likes. At 2/3 of the videos you should give us the traditional speech of Like and subscribe. And thank you for this amazing masterclass of a playlist. I have learned so much.
I'm in my early 70's and have recently revisited archery after a 40 year layoff. I can honestly say this video has by far improved my accuracy & groupings more than any other video I've watched & I have watched a bunch of archery videos of late. Thanks Jake!
Thanks! I think the bow hand direction just clicked for me. I’ve heard it extended, but seeing the stretch band made it make sense.
Same for me
This is gold, quite literally. I'm pushing towards the centre and pulling back with all my might. The arrows are flying into the gold and my draw hand is flying back behing my head. You've starting something here!
Saw that semi final match with China and boy that arrow went straight into the X ring alright.
do you have a link to the video?
TANK YOU SO MUCH FRIEND!!! You are the best teacher ever for me and you make me very happy!!!GOD BLESS YOU ALL...
I'm a newby on barebow Archery, I'm watching all your videos, this is maybe the best lesson overall, it's just like discovering the secret ingredient. Thanks you so much 💪💪💪. I honestly think you are the best Archery teacher out there.
Great video and advice. This is the one thing that messed me up many years ago (1988 ish) . I was at the end of my coaching course and on the exam weekend, the visiting national coach decided it was the best time to introduce everyone to the "new" technique of loading the shoulders and pushing towards the target - Rick McKinney- style. That compressive pressure I was exerting towards the gold (that you describe) was no good any more and now we had to be "dynamic". I needed the drawing shoulder blade to come round and the bow shoulder to be make a movement forwards. bringing the sight ring down onto to gold to form an 'eye' shape and the final fluid push would go through the clicker and plop into the centre of the gold. This guy pushed and pushed for us to learn this and many were put off. I practiced for ages afterwards, my scores went down and I couldn't control it. Everything was moving and rarely in the right direction. When I moved to compound I disregarded it and shot perfect rounds. That was in the early 2000s, when I stopped. I returned a year and a half ago to 3D archery; much simpler concepts and much less stress. In my time away I missed all this "Lee" system you talk of, but see it's the standard for every archer now; it's much like my old structured draw set up before I was messed up... But that flick of the wrist and bow drop at the end always makes me cringe.
Oh wow!!! I see my mistake now. Thank you so much!
I'm a new Archer, I've been watching your videos the last 2 weeks when I started religious. I'm amazed of how much your tips have helped me shoot 20 to 30 m so well. My friends can't believe how good I am the last two weeks because of a channel. Thank you
Hey Jake, Guy Gerig here. 100 yrs ago it was described to me by Bud Fowlks as looking toward the ten ring as if you had an eyeball on the front of your wrist. I've used that analogy since. Good stuff
Funnily enough, this clicked for me a few days ago. After an abysmal tournament I was analyzing my form at the club and at some point I started visualizing a line from the wrist of my draw hand, through my hook, through the pressure point of my bow hand to the center of the target. Throughout expansion, the expansion itself and every minute adjustment made had to be on that line. Once I shot a few arrows and started landing 10s again, a light went on in my hand and I realized that tension and direction was more than just pushing the bow towards the target.
Also, in instinctive tradbow they say "aim small, miss small" to signify the importance of aiming at the smallest possible point. Some will even train that in everyday life by taking a spot in the distance and try to make out the smallest possible detail.
Very well described and very understandable! Well done!
At last I am doing something right (almost)! I've pushed my bow hand towards the target since I started shooting. As an engineer it sort of made sense to do that. What I wasn't doing was pushing it towards where I want the arrow to go. I'm shooting barebow and gap shooting because under the rules I shoot, string walking isn't allowed. I was pushing towards the point of aim and not the point of impact. Because the point of aim is variable depending on distance, it must have been causing some degree of inconsistency and we don't always get that gap right so there's the uncertainty along with that. Too many things going on in the head at once is a huge drawback!
I've just practised a few ends pushing towards the point I want to hit instead of the point of aim and it most definitely works better for me. Thinking clearly about hitting that kill zone takes away a little "anxiety" and allows me to focus more on the tension and release instead of worrying about the gap being correct etc. Many thanks for another super helpful video!
Chris Malcomson glad I read this. I’m also a barebow gap shooter and hadn’t worked out if I should push my aim towards the gap or where I wanted the arrow to impact. 🤣
Jake. Love the passion with which you deliver this, and fun to hear about your Rio experience.
I've always believed that all archery, even freestyle, is "instinctive" to a large extent. Your example seems to show that too. Our body knows what to do if we just get the mind out of the way. Great video.
I'm happy to see you are shooting and making videos. Great content and easy to understand.
Best video so far 👍 what you share through personal experiance/examples is invaluable. Thank you 🏆
Hi Jake.
I shoot Compound so I only watch some of your videos, however the ones I have watched the production is great and your teaching style very easy to watch and informative.
Thanks for putting the time in, it's appreciated.
Hi Jake, your videos have become my bible as I am completely new to archery in a foreign country, where I cannot even communicate with the other archers. Thanks for all the content. Extremely technical but yet very clear to understand.
THANK YOU so much for sharing this bit of wisdom 🙏🏻
I've been coaching for a few years now, and I drum this into my guys, so glad you mentioned it, what I found is it's easy for me to say, but until the archer experiences his/her 'ahaa moment' its always going to be hard to repeat. Love your work Jake!!
Many thanks for sharing Jake! Great video, (as all your channel), weel done, number one!👍
It Works!! Thank you Jake
Can't thank you enough for this Jake. Have been shooting barebow for 3 years and lately been focussing on the bowhand. Your explanation of how the bowhand plays its part in the tension and expansion really makes sense and added to the circular motion of the draw is a revelation. Applied it immediately in practice and after one end, put all 6 arrows in the gold (60cm target at 30m). Then did one of the best indoor practice sessions ever. Somehow it makes aiming easier/less important. .... just brilliant. Certainly works for me.
Just as I think I might be starting to plateau - I think this is just the video I may have needed - Thanks Jake!! Can't wait to get back to the range to try this.
Hi Jake! Thanks for your hard work putting ideas and concepts distilled via decade-long training into words to help your fellow archers! I always had a collapsing bow-arm until my trainer suggested I shouldn‘t think about pushing the bow but rather leading it with my fingers. She also doesn‘t talk about pulling the string, rather opening the bow as a fluid motion. Pretty inspiring how words can teach your body to do motions differently
I have always had trouble aiming off. Now I have some insight in what to do next. I think I will go practice tension and direction and monitor my tension and direction....right after I fletch these arrows.
Great video, thanks, I can see clearly now!
As a beginner this has been a very helpful video. Thank you 👍😎🇦🇺
Excellent video, and really useful.
Thank you very much, I have always been so confused about the process of expansion and I've been shooting recurve for 4 years now. Though I have joined a lot of local and state competitions and performed "okay" I still have doubts about my form especially expansion and bow arm position. But, upon watching your videos from time to time especially the form series, I have learned a lot of techniques from you that really make sense to me which I can easily incorporate into my routine. It is because you explained every step and every technique thoroughly which makes understanding and incorporating it easy, especially I am only shooting alone in our backyard with no proper guidance of an archery coach given restrictions due to covid. Your channel has been my virtual coach and I feel a lot of changes in my shooting routine especially the shooting feeling, my groups are tighter now, and my shot execution has felt smoother. Once again thank you for offering free coaching, more power to you and your channel.
This is exactly my problem. My bow arm tends to collapse inwards. Thanks Jake.
EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT, VIDEO, You are the best !
This is a golden rule . Thank you !
This is what I am looking for would try it later.
THANK YOU!
Love it!
Hi Jake, another great video. I really get your ‘A Ha’ moment. My coach has been telling me the same messages for years but, for whatever reason, some of them just haven’t sunk in. Your videos have been hugely instrumental in making some pieces of form just click into place and I've finally realised what my coach had been talking about. As a small ‘thank you’ I just bought KSL’s book via your link.
Hope it helps!
Love this secession 😎👍🏾
That helped me a lot today, when a friend explained me this and sent me this video
Thank you
Jake. Just shot an excellent barebow outing. This is excellent advise! Not only were my groups tighter but the bow casted quieter/happier. Thanks again and keep up the great work!
Glad to hear it
I used to shoot just like that when I shot compound unlimited I completely understand .But I had a rotator cuff repair and haven't been able to shoot compound since I'm shooting English longbow .But I know it's wrong what I do .But I'm going to what you are saying now .thank you Jake .
The feel I could describe if I were to do what you do correctly is a really balanced feel of the shot like the release felt good and everything just falls into place. It's kinda hard to describe but if I push correctly then the whole shot just flows great from there onward.
Thank you...
Archery is a mental sport. There are a lot of things to do to execute a shot and there are a lot of things going on in your mind that interfere with this. The brain has to execute the shot without interfering with it. This can only happen through a large amount of practice. The more practice the more the brain will do what it needs to do without you thinking about it. Concentration is important but you can't think about the steps and try to execture them better and get a better shot. The muscle memory has to do the work. You can interfere with this if you think differently while trying to do a good shot than you do normally. Focus on what you are doing, go through the steps, every time when you practice and it will be automatic when you are in a tournament. Maintain the tension/direction for every shot, whether you are in a tournament, on the practice range, or horsing around with friends.
I would shoot in the spring then lay off for a long period of time, then get back the next spring. I found for myself that it took a period of time of practice and training before I could do well, and midway through this period I couldn't pick up the bow and concentrate on the steps and automatically shoot a ten. The muscle memory wasn't there. At some point during my training it would suddenly click and if I did what I was supposed to to set up the shot, it would be a good shot. So don't get discouraged when you are training. Put in the work and at some point it will click and start to pay off.
Interesting, keeping my bow arm locked and pointed, I'll work on that, thank you
The demo at around 6 mins is particularly useful
Thanks I'll try this today
Jake, thank for your very well explained video.
Please, could you do a video explaining the aiming techinics with recurve bows?
Hey Jake, just watched your 'aha' moment in Rio after watching this video, was funny.
Man thank you. It could be my mistake. I really trained my grip. But still my hand moves at release. I thought I was using torque. It is not big movement but enough to shoot outside my group. I will try thinking the bow as slingshot =) This is try to simplify it. Sucks. I shoot heavy for 5 days in row and giving myself 2 days to rest my shoulders. Your channel is awesome. I can't afford to shoot at a club. So this is great resource. I am saving up for club. I am on disability. Bow shooting is really good for my headspace
You just made me a better archer
Love from Rising Phoenix
Oh I always used a hinge so it's just like you with a clicker .although I couldn't have the clock .just so you know .I really understand what you are saying .
Thanks very much Jake! Could you think of any simple exercise leading to this "feel"?
Regarding, "pushing with conviction where you want the arrow to go..." add one more, that gets it. I've been explaining at the range, when it comes up that The archer like a ballroom dancer forms a frame with their shoulder girdle and upper extremities. This frame operates independent of the lower torso which is rock solid grounded..
1. Develop one's shot process, it creates a projectile Vector on target
2. Learn to focus with precision on the targeting point. This through the brain, one's targeting system, provides the actual Vector to Target
3. One s Bow hand contact point and expansion combine to create the projectile vector, as expansion continues through s clean release both projectile and laser visual intention vectors are brought into parity at release, reaction physics are clean X s every time LOL
Or the archer as a laser guided weapons sys.
Jake, thanks for your channel. It has really been a help for me. A request I have of u is this...could you do a section on what the differences are between short, medium and long limbs along with different riser sizes, and how to choose the right setup. I've been shooting now for about 2 years and would like to step up to a better bow but am really confused about all this. Thanks. -Thomas
hey, can you please make a video about how to deal with target panic? :)
Jake, but this is what trad/instinctive shooters do! The main thing there is learn how go into the mode when your intention to hit specific spot becomes determination. You just hit whatever you wanted to hit. The problem is - this mode is hard to maintain over extended period of time.
new shirt idea .. "keep ya bow arm strong"
When I use this form and I keep pushing with my bow hand and drop my hand to rotate the bow my lower limb always ricochets off my belly just at belt buckle height up to my belly button and torques the bow. That effect puts a lot of strain on my wrist. Does this have any effect on my shot?
I've been trying to internalize this ever since I saw your first video on the subject but for some reason I'm still struggling. I'm aware of the direction I'm exerting pressure and I immediately know how to compensate if a shot is about to break when I'm pushing the wrong way, but for some reason I find it hard to consistently control the direction throughout the shot sequence. Not sure why. The rubber band thing actually looks like it might help, might try that. Any other pointers as to how one should practice to get past this barrier?
From a novice..I find any pushing thought with my bow hand distracting to the pulling from expansion. I stumbled onto the idea of visually placing my hand on the X and pulling the arrow stuck in it out with the expansion. The bow hand is bracing against the target as you expand.
Ok. All that makes sense, but By pushing my bowhand towards the target, now I am pushing my whole body/torso also. Its like I am leaning to the target.
Do i want to do that wrist bending when im pushing before clicker clicks or do i just push forward with my whole arm? Or is it too much load on small muscles in my wrist that it can cause an injury?
Hi Jake
Kindly I need your advice, i want to upgrade my poundage, currently am using Krossen xenia 25" riser, 68" limbs, 26lbn.
What is your recommendation for upgrade to go for 30,32,34?
What is the med range limbs I can upgrade to?
Thanks
So I do not need a sight pin?
know thy shot
Favor de activar subtítulos en español o hablar mas lento, gracias
Jake, are you locking or hyperextending your elbow, it looks like you are to me? Should I be doing that?
Its straight, I cannot hyper extend, but its locked for sure.
Why is your wrist pointing up, when you pull the band ?
To replicate how I push into the grip. Low pressure preferred.
What band is that?
Just a home made one.
@@JakeKaminskiArchery put up the link to the one made by decut on amazon
The book is the most expensive book to buy. It’s €890. Possibly it is good, but far too expensive
Might be out of stock. They are also available on my website too!
0:00 - 0:30 your Like an optionator how counts the prices😂
Trying to speed up the intro a bit, sometimes it can drag on a bit long haha
Do not listen to Him. It will not improve your shooting in any way. Do not even try it.
:P
Thank you