🔴 Best 35mm EVER? Voigtlander 35mm APO
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- Voigtlander 35mm APO Lens Review on the Leica M240 - Detailed Specs + Sample Images
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Detailed review of the Voigtlander APO Lanther 35mm f2 lens - Testing the VM mount lens on the Leica M240 in London. This is the new 35 APO lens from Voigtlander to compete with the new Leica 35mm APO Summicron-M lens (but much cheaper). Thanks to Flaghead Photographic for sending me the lens and to Bame model agency for the models.
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This is the review I have been waiting for! thank you Matt
Thank you James! :) Happy I could help and nice to talk about something that is currently in production haha :)
Awesome review on the Vm 35m Apo! Beautiful photos!
Thanks Marc!
Your channel is one of the best on Leicas! I have subscribed! Thanks for the great content!
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Great review on a very impressive lens.The colour was superb i loved it.Cheers.
Thank you! Yes I was lucky to get a sunny day :)
Fantastic! I've been eagerly awaiting this review and the 50mm APO. I'm hoping that will also be out soon.
Thanks James! 50 APO will come too hopefully but another 50 before that.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom And hopefully a Voigtlander 21mm Nokton 1.4 at some stage 😀
@@jimbob119874 we can hope
Excellent Review Matt, glad you hat a chance to use it. I use the 35mm and 50 Apo Lanthar , can't be more happy about these two lenses. Also great to see you shooting colors :-)
Thanks Cemal! Hopefully I can share the 50 APO in a future vid :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Hey Matt! Any update on whether that 50 APO video is coming? :)
@@tommyhandoko2170 hopefully yes, next up I think. Now 28mm video fine I’ll try to get APO next.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Awesome! Looking forward to it :)
Nice review Matt thanks definitely I’m going to get one 😁
Thanks! Yes the results impressed me :)
The circular bokeh at various apertures is a clever idea.
Thanks Travis, yes it was a new one for me. Voigtlander are doing great things at the moment.
How this channel can still be below 20k subscribers is beyond me. Hands down the best, real-world lens reviews from any photographer on TH-cam. Fantastic, thank you.
Thank you! Getting there very slowly!
Giddy up for ya Matt
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaComMatt, I’m rewatching this. Truly, you should have well over 100k subs. Cheers!
Great review Matt! Love the new lens alert intro, the excitement of testing a new lens. 😆 I recently bought the Light Lens Lab 35mm F2 which is a replica basically of the 1st generation Summicron. I was looking at this APO 35 and APO 50 too. I wish the size was a tad smaller on the APO lenses but there's obviously a reason they jammed so many pieces of glass in there. Always great to have different lenses.
Thanks haha.. i'm a big kid at heart :) Yes I know of the LLL 35/2 .. nice looking lens. I've not tried it yet. Agreed about APO size!
thank you for these fascinating videos which, thanks to your talent, really allow us to realize the quality of these lenses. Are these new optics calculated especially for digital still suitable for film?
Thank you Hector! Yes modern lenses optimised for digital mean they also give sharper film images so all good :)
Matt, it would be really interesting to see you test this on film as well. I know you don’t shoot slide film all that often, but I think that Ektachrome 100 with its high acutance paired with this lens, the results would be amazing. Thanks for all the videos you put out!
Hi! Ah yes sorry I totally forgot to mention it in the video. I shot the Leica M3 in London with TMax 400 (hi-res film though not slide) with APO for a few shots. I need to try to get another day out with it to shoot more film before it goes back. I should start a please sponsor me to shoot slide film thread as I love the look but it's so expensive I never buy it now. Ektachrome or Provia.. I think I like Provia even more (see blog post I did on those). If I get chance to shoot more film with it before it goes back I might try to do a short follow up vid or blog post.
Thank you for not just this one, but for basically all your reviews, they (and your photos) are a pleasure to watch and I watched many reviews more than once already (overthinking which lens to buy 😉). On that note, if I may ask: have you compared the voigtlander 35 f/2 apo and nokton f/1.2 at f/2? Is the apo noticably better? Which one do you enjoy shooting models with more? The same questions apply for the 50 as well. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Please keep those reviews coming!! 🙏
Thanks Marcel, much appreciated. I think the APO will still be sharper but for models or bokeh I would get the 1.2 for sure. For 50mm still need to try the APO but the same applies.. 1.2 for models. :)
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@@marceldenhoed7469 no problem! If you run out of content there are 150+ posts on Patreon too :)
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Thanks Lugen! :)
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Thank you very much for this review, I have been waiting for this Lens in E-Mount version for my Sony A7RIV (which are my kind of a "Leica" camera), only the best are good enough for me ;) If you want Leica Lenses, you need to have a lot of children that you can sell :D
@@cameraprepper7938 haha yes! If offset it with some budget Nikon SLR gear!
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I want one now. 14:55 That smile on your face gave it away. Lol
Haha. Yes great lens! ..I need to work on my poker face 😂
Hello Matt. Good videos, I like it. What do you think of the 35mm apo lens on APSC?
Thanks Wlad! I will test on the APSC Leica CL and maybe do a short follow up video + testing with film
Matt, thanks for this. am researching a Voigtlander 35mm for my Leica M3.
You will need 35mm finder on M3 but yes great lens
Always nice to see you do a review. The lens looks to be pretty nice, but the not including a lens hood rubs me the wrong way.
Thanks Jesse! Yes a few others said the same re. Hoods
Thanks Matt, I needed to know about this lens. Maybe you can also look at the new optical formula Voigtlander ULTRON Vintage Line 28mm f/2 Aspherical VM 😁👍
Thank you Edwin! Yes hopefully if this video does well I might be able to get the 28mm to test. (I have the old 28mm too so can compare!) :)
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Wonderful video and pictures, as usual. What Leica camera did you use? Thanks
Thank you! M240 if I remember but I might mention in the video too. (It was before I had the SL and the CL is crop so not good for testing FF lenses).
Please test this on your CL! I'm assuming that the VM50 APO will be better suited to non-M digital, but I'd like to see if the advantages hold for this one :)
Good thinking! WIll try to do so before I have to send it back. I need the rain to stop and a model / day out
Fine job as always. I first found you about 3 weeks ago and after my 2nd video viewing I subscribed. I am about 1/3 through your catalog and I must say I quite enjoy you content and presentation. If I could offer one suggestion, it would be to mind the speed at which you speak. It is noticible when you get excited or if you are trying to move on to a more important part of the video you speak so quickly that it is difficult to follow at times. You have an elegant speaking voice and timbre, give your audience a chance to embrace that, it's what sets you apart. Keep up the good work! Cheers mate, from the soggy old Olympic Rainforest in Coastal Washington, and Yes I do have webs between my toes... PS Have a pint on me.
Hi Gene! Sorry I was travelling most of today. I just picked up your PayPal donation, thanks so much!! Thanks for subbing and being crazy enough to watch that many videos. I'm amazed you are still awake! :) The old ones are painful to watch even if I still try to give useful info. The new ones I try really hard to be less awkward. I'm not a natural speaker as you can see so it doesn't come easy. I appreciate your feedback. I cut out every micro pause to save viewers time which may not help and I will try to look out for the faster pace. Sorry to hear you have it soggy, look out for my next video, I escaped the UK for a week and i'm probably most happy with the feel of the video vs my sterile studio look. Thanks again and greetings from England! (Currently not soggy*) :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom You don't have to be slick or smooth, just honest to be legit. Like I said don't sell yourself short you're doing very well and you are putting out tons of good and useful info. Have a safe trip. If you get a chance some time you should do a review of the Voightlander 50mm F1.5 Heliar. Awesome portrait lens for females... Cheers
I might pick one up in the new year (2023). I'm more of a 35mm man (vs. a 50mm person), and I've seen your photos on Flickr with the apo lanthar. I'm still trying to decide which mount: LM or Sony E.
Both are good, 35 and 50. I bought 50. VM mount every day of the week! Can use on most cameras via adapter including film bodies.
Hey Matt, just adding as many others also have that I also hope you can someday try out and review the Voigtlander 50mm Apo Lanther F2. 😁
Hey Rob, yes I think it is coming. I have a video coming and then maybe after that I can test the APO. Stay tuned!
Just bought this lens aboit 10 days ago. Excellent value fpr money.
Thanks Chris, agreed, great lens!
Hi, out of all the Voigtlander and Zeiss 35mm M-Mount lenses, which one/s have the least or zero distortion? No barrel or pincushion effect when shooting at white background with black horizontal and vertical lines . I would love to know as you are probably one of the few reviewers who has so many lenses to review. Distortion-less, Sharpness and Colours in that order for me.
If you see this video the APO seems to have near zero distortion. I've not tried the Zeiss version. Sharpest i'd guess APO or Distagon (not tried but hear it is very good). My 21mm and 25mm Biogons are very sharp too. I liked the APO colours too. You can see today's video for 9 more 35mm lenses but I don't cover all the topics you mention. It may give you more ideas though.
Thank you for your review, Matt - as always it's much fun to watch. I'm choosing between Voigtlander 35mm APO-Lanthar and Ultron 35mm f1.7. What I'm expecting from the lens are resolution and sharpness. I've seen some pictures on your Flicker page. However, it's hard to decide. What would you recommend from these two? Thank you n advance.
Hi, neither, get the 35mm Ultron f2 :) I did
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Ha-ha. Thanks.
@@odessa_in_heart3730 see that video it will make sense. I’m selling my 1.7
Hi Matt, will you be reviewing the new 28 Ultron vintage line lens? I'm thinking between that and the elmarit. I did like elmarit when I had it for a brief period.
Hi Mahesh, hopefully yes but I need to do the 50/1.5 v2 lens first. I have the Elmarit so see that video and I own the older 28mm Ultron so can hopefully compare old 28 vs new 28 if I get the chance.
Great sample pictures Matt
Thanks Nico!
QUESTION : I loved my my LF ( that I sold sometime ago, too bulky for my age now ) for the details and the feeling of "being in there in the photo". So what combo would you suggest to obtain such result , 40Mp Aps-c (Fuji XT5 for example) or 24Mp full frame (like the latest Nikon Zf) ? I know a full frame 40Mp but it is out of the equation !
Not APS-C ..you’d need digital MF ideally, see my Hasselblad H2 / H3D stuff. Add a fast lens and you might get a closer shallow sharp look.
I have it for about a month, great lens, better than summicron 35 also, but much bigger
Thanks Jure! Yes if it was smaller and lighter it would be perfect
Hi Matt, another excellent video...which brings up a question (not sure if you've already addressed this in another video), and so, do you have any recommendations on how to store the many, many lenses we accumulate over time (I'm old so I have a LOT of lenses)? I'd love to see your "setup" on gear storage and how you manage, especially lenses, on a day-to-day basis. I have so many boxes and bags...impossible to know where any lens is at any time. Know what I mean? Many thanks...Ron J. (USA)
Hi Ron, sorry I missed this. Haha yes I know your feeling. If I had a beautiful solution I would share it but currently I don't. I have most on shelves so I can find most things but the smaller accessories always go missing and I I can't find when I need!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Ahhh, and so, the struggle shall continue for now...thanks for your reply! RJ
Too bad, I already have the Nokton 35mm F1.2 III. I am looking forward to your review on the Ultron 28mm F2 aspherical II. If you are affiliated to BHphoto in NYC, I am more than happy to clink the link for my future purchases. Keep up the great reviews, Matt.
Thanks Eric, the 1.2 is a great lens too so don't worry too much! Yes hopefully if this video does well I can get the 28mm to review :) Thanks about B&H.. I will try thanks!
Hi Matt, thank you for these awesome reviews. Im a color portrait photographer with a leica SL and voigtlander 35mm Nokton ASPH 1.2 VM (very first version), i am planning to upgrade my 35mm and so in terms of micro-contrast and color, would you prefer the APO 2.0 or Ultron 1.7? or should i stick with the old 1.2? thanks!
Hey Joe, thanks. Hmm tricky without side by side test. APO is the best corrected 35mm from Voigtlander. 1.7 has better sunstars. 1.2 v3 best for portraits.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Hello Matt, thanks for the response. they say v1 a bit softer than the v3, and i kind of want to see a bit more details in my photos .APO has very good reviews and based on your take the only downside is it's 'too sharp' and cant handle lower light scenarios , but as long as micro-contrast is rich its fine ☺
Great review. Please try out the VM 50mm AA, you will be equally impressed. I compared with the Leica 50mmAA f2 the difference is minimal but only 1/7 of the price.
Thanks Alan! I have some 50s coming and maybe one day I will get to test the AA.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I am looking forward to your review. It will be exciting if you can compare side by side with the Leica 50AA. It will give great insight to Leica users, like myself, an alternative option to enjoy Lecia experiences without paying for the “Leica premium” . Thank you again for your dedication and your sharing.
@@alanc9082 thanks Alan, I will try!
You should try the Zeiss Biogon 35mm f2.8 - very sharp and compact!
Thansk Lee! I use the old Opton Biogon 35mm but am still tempted to get a ZM to try. I like Biogon rendering (I use the 21 & 25).
Hi Matt. Always enjoy your video. I would like to ask your advice. I just got Leica MP 0.58 and would like to explore film. Which of the 35mm Voigtlander should I use for my MP 0.58.
I already have Leica summicron 35 and also summilux 35. I do landscape and street photography on this camera. Appreciate your advice. Thank you. 🙏
Hi thanks! I'm not sure you need any Voigtlander lens if you have those already! :) People normally buy Voigtlander as they are cheaper. If you want to buy a new lens you could get the new Voigtlander 28mm f2 for some variety? What do you want that the Leicas don't give you?
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Hi Matt. Thank you for your reply. Truly appreciate it. I do have 28mm Summilux. So I don’t have to buy additional lens. Thanks so much.
This is definitely my 35mm. Great review.
Thanks William! :)
I’ve been waiting to fill the 35mm hole in my kit for two years, waiting to see what might come along, always thought it would be Zeiss distigon t 35mm f 1.4 zm, and was saving my pennies. Now Voigtländer has come through with this, APO... I like fast lenses and struggle with the idea of f2 for a 35mm, but the APO design for the leave on camera most the time makes more sense. I have the Voigtländer 50mm F1.2 and the 21mm F1.4... if I need speed....so this fits perfect. I have a LEICA 90mm f/2.5 SUMMARIT-M for portraits, hard to focus but a very very underrated lens for the price. You might look at it...a spectacular 90 Leica lens, compact sharp and since there’s no snob appeal you get a real Leica lens at $1000 vs 6000....
@@williaminbody205 thanks William, I have the 90/2 90/4 and 90macro so I probably don’t have an excuse to get another but agreed for Summarit. I have 50mm and it’s a lovely lens.
I have the 50mm version for my M10-R and will be picking up this 35mm very soon. Great review.
are you happy with it? is it too sharp for portraits?
Nice! 50 APO vids coming soonish, testing in progress :)
Better for younger skin, 1.2 is more forgiving for sure.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I do like the size of the Voigtlander Nokton Classic 35mm f1.4 II MC, especially for street, when comparing to the 35mm APO. Since I have the 50mm APO do you think the Nokton would produce a different rendering when shooting with the 50mm APO on the M10-R. I’m assuming both the 35mm and 50mm APO would produce the same rendering. Would the 35mm Nokton be that much obvious? In Canada the Nokton is less expensive than the APO (900$ vs 1,500$).
@@GamachePhoto yes Nokton have different bokeh. See me 1.4 and 1.2 videos to see.
I brought the lens very recently of course after seeing multiple reviews including yours. when I mount the lens on my SL2S with a Leica M-L adapter, the camera can't detect the lens profile. Any suggestions..
Hi. Yes Voigtlander lenses are not coded. You’ll need to manually enter a profile if you want to use one. I don’t use profiles personally.
Wonderful review! I greatly trust your judgment on lenses and assessment of value etc.
WHY oh WHY did Voigtländer discontinue the 35mm Ultron 1.7???? Consider me baffled.
Thanks! Yes it was sad to see the 1.7 go
Does anyone know if voigtlander are going to release a 28mm for Sony e mount? I want this 35mm apo but would prefer a native e mount 28mm voigtlander. Thanks
Hi Dean, I've not heard about Sony E mount but i'm less in touch with Sony stuff. Hopefully they will for Sony shooters.
Enjoyed the review, Matt. Thank you.
Question. Which ‘lens data’ setting did you use from the M240? The 35mm Summicron Asph?
Thanks! This is probably not the answer I should give but I don't use lens settings on my cameras. I'm used to film so just let the digital cameras do their thing without added camera computer adjustments.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks Matt. By lens data, I meant in relation to Leica’s 6-bit coding. I assume you are selecting a 35mm equivalent Leica lens when using this Voigtlander.
@@lightloving683 thanks, no I don’t select anything. I use a lot of old lenses so over time just stopped using the data. I may have turned the option off..
I may give that a try as well. I own several old lenses as well.
@@lightloving683thinking back to your first question, when I put got the M240 I used the lens profile closest to that lens so 35 Cron f2.. but I change lenses so much that didn’t last long.
Thank you for this man, you have saved me 1000€
Thanks, no problem! Feel free to send me 10€ via PayPal if you want haha :)
Wow, those yellows & blues.
Thanks Ryan, if I shoot colour I like to go all in and focus on the colour. I think if it had been a grey day and black clothes it would have been all B&W
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I really liked the way it handle the redheads hair, she must have been fun to work with.
@@ryanbeer5262 thanks, see Patreon vid to come of all images taken and ‘debrief’ after the shoots. I’ll try to post later today.
I have not tried any of the recent other comparable Voigtlander 35mm lenses, but based on specs/design alone, the 35 APO is better for two reasons: first one is APO (obviously) and the inclusion of floating-element design (FLE). Reviewers rarely mention (let alone talk about) the latter feature...FLE allows the lens to be sharp at wide apertures _at any distance_ but this makes the lens design complex...which is also why it's expensive...but it's actually a bargain considering what you pay for.
Thanks Dexter, Yes I like my cheap Nikkor 28mm AIS for the same sharp close up ability. Yes it makes this one of the bigger Voigtlander 35s but it's a really strong performer. I think Ultron is close second place. (New Voigtlanders have come on a long way since the older Noktons.. I use them too).
Man really lift some weights! SMDH!
@@Fleet42 haha I’m just a fan of the tiny lenses that balance well on a M. Of course compared to most systems it’s tiny. I use big RZ and Hassy too
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom ah yes 28 AIS MF (Nikon calls the floating elements CRC)...i had one of those. was also one of my favorites..the only reason i sold it was the arrival of the Zeiss Distagon 28 which is better in every respect IMO (it also has FLE)...shame Zeiss forgot about that and never got the modern AF treatment.
@@bubuli yes the Zeiss 28mm ZF has amazing rendering, I nearly bought one once.
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I'm shocked at the number of color images from you :). Debating this lens vs the Zeiss 35/1.4 zm? Your thoughts? Both will be used on my soon to get SL2S.
Yes sorry I think I must have been sick haha. Hmm tough as I’ve still not used the Distagon. The APO is the best performing 35mm I’ve used but I bought the f2 Ultron as I like the small size.
Great review as always Matt. I see the lens is very saturated. Did you worked the color enhancement in post?
Thanks Irimie! Yes on the day I shot ‘vivid colour film mode’ preview then I edited the RAW files as I remember seeing the colours so yes more saturated than reality ..but the blue sky and green leaves were already nice and colourful
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I have a small remark to make and is a language mistake which almost everyone make it with the Voigtländer name. The I is mute and the V is actually an F. So it would be something like Fogtl, when you say it, and the rest is ok. I also learned it very late. This is just fyi as your channel covers this brand a lot and I love it.
@@irimiebogdan1847 thanks for info! I’m not sure I’ll be able to say that probably or may forget with time but thanks and great to know.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom also i struggle with this. Living in Germany i learned to say it right, I hope, but in my mind it sounds like most of the people are saying it. I asked a german college where did I felt, nobody knows. 😂
Great test ... now i know where i m gonna spend some money ... 😉
Thanks Jerome! A strong performer, Paris architecture will look good with this ;)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom yup .. it is the plan ... street photos in Paris ...
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Great review, Matt! Please, please Cosina stop to sell hoods separately with lenses! They should be included for this price! 49 mm filter diameter is also a typical CV "weird" one. Bokeh wide open reminds me on the CV 35/1.2 II wider open. Otherwise a great lens obviously. A bit bulky for a f/2 lens, but this comes with all the lens groups to reduce CA, vignetting, and improve sharpness in the corners. Similar to the Leica APO lenses, they are made for landscape/architecture shooting by delivering great sharpness as you mentioned. For portraits, did you have to smoothen the skin when this lens was used at f/2?
Thanks Martin, agreed a bit too big to be perfect but as you say that's what comes with the extra glass to make perfect images. Yes I would use a 49-52mm step ring if I got one. Yes agreed about hoods! No strangely zero face smoothing needed. Not sure if because I shot in daylight vs studio. I will try to cover that before I send it back. The Ultron made some photos un-postable it was that sharp wide open so maybe each model skin variation or the light or.. or maybe the APO is just good. Interesting thought.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom you are right, the light might make a big difference regarding pore structure on the skin! I would expect the APO being sharper wide open than the Ultron but maybe not.
@@MB-or8js yes see the sample photo in the video. It is at least as sharp wide open. Probably the light helped... meaning skin looked ok with APO
Maybe you've done a review before on Leica lenses on non Leica digital bodies. I heard your comment on this lens being optimised for Leica bodies. If you haven't done such a review would love to see one.
Hi David, If you see my latest video that looks at the Leica Look and talking about Leica+Leica, Leica+Another, Another+Leica.. You might find it interesting.
I was just exiting someone a few hours ago there were few good reviews of this lens out there. Some of us are looking at it for adapting to a Fujifilm camera of one type or another.
Thanks Daryl. Great hopefully people can decide if they like it after watching a few reviews from different users. Everyone will have their own take on it.
There are also this review
www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1695782#chapter1
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I may buy it for my nikon z7ii. One question please : it is not marketing as weather résistant but how does it resist in réalité with classic reasonable care ?
Hi, there is no electronics so for normal use and occasional rain it’s ok I think. (dry after)
Thank you for the review. Not liking the output too much. The colors especialy
Thanks no problem, I normally shoot B&W but happened to shoot colour when testing this lens. I’m sure you can adjust the saturation etc to taste / and it will be camera sensor specific too.
Great review. I’m torn between buying this one and the ttartisan apo. Money isn’t the issue. I’m just looking for the better lens. Would you say the ttartisan is smaller in diameter? Also, is the Voigtlander more suitable for the rangefinders viewfinder? I noticed in your ttartisan 35mm review it blocked the framing lines quite a bit. Which would you suggest more?
Thanks! Voigtlander if can afford it. TT flare makes it non-practical. I sold the TT
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Apochromatic= diffraction limited... corrected for red green and blue light for Lateral and Longitudinal Chromatic abberations, Spherical abberation, Coma, Astigmatism, Distortion .
Thanks!
A non sponsored dutch Focus photo magazine in the Sixties?
No way, the chief editor and his assistent were super positive on Leica.
I think their were wearing shorts wih a Leica print on it
When the chief eiter retired, his assisent became an Olympus OM fan.
He changed the print of his shorts....
Haha, do I need Voigtlander shorts!? :)
Nice video , do you think you will get the same colors with the sony version :-) ? I have a sony alpha
Thanks! From the lens, I would think so BUT Sony sensor colours are different so you'll still get different colours overall (I think).
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom yeah that’s the problem , I’m trying to tweak the settings on the picture profile to get the Leica colors but not easy 😃
How is this lens at F2? And whats your opinion of the depth of field?
Sharp, all the portraits shared were at f2. I will let you decide from the photos as to the DOF
You make videos faster I can watch :-)
Ha thanks Steve, I was on catchup from last week! Sorry!
Tis is better than the Voigtländer Macro APO-Ultron 2/35 mm ?
There is no 28mm APO for Leica. It’s probably sharper than the normal Ultron yes. See 28mm video.
I wonder, what are your thoughts of the Voigtlander 50mm Apo Lanthar?
Hi Dirk, Voigtlander said they'll be sending me one, they had delays with customs but a video will hopefully come maybe next month.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thats great. Would you mind to compare with the 50mm summicron (non-apo)? One of these I will buy for my leica m6 and m10
@@dasfoto I sold my modern Cron I’m afraid as I didn’t use it because I tend to use the Summilux (bigger but I prefer it)
Just bought it comes Friday!! Can’t wait to watch your review. Be honest please!!
Congrats Dwayne! The results are amazing, just a little big because of the extra glass
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom man I know you prefer small glass but honestly, it’s pretty tiny compared to my 50mm Lumix 1.4 S and the many Sony lenses I use to shoot!
@@Fleet42 yes agreed. Lovely lens. You’ll love it! 👌🏻😊
Seems like the Leica 240 performed pretty good as well.
Thanks, yes for sure!
Very good review. It is obvious, that it comes from somebody, who really knows what he is talking about. And I have the privilege to see it at least two times, because of my bad English. Otherwise I would miss half of what you are saying. :)
Thanks! Sorry I edit out the pauses to make videos shorter but it does make them quite fast paced informative wise. Thanks for the feedback!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I will go through all your reviews concerning Leica and Voigtländer, because I am about to change my system. I had a Voigtländer Apo Lanthar 65 mm on a Sony A7 R 3 and it was blowing me away, before it got stolen in France.
@@horntv5039 sorry to hear it was stolen :( Yes there is a lot of Leica + Voigtlander here but if you need more info just message me on Patreon if want 1-2-1 help. 👍🏻
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Oh pls Matt don't get me wrong. I don't need an advice. I am doing this over 40 years now. I just follow your Vids. And you are exceptional. Thats all, sorry, for bringing in no money ! Hard times, right ?
@@horntv5039 thanks and no problem! TH-cam pays less than a paper delivery round (per hour) so try to offer other services too!
How does it compare to the light lens lab?
Hi Brian, I bought the LLL but not this one. If you want APO perfection get this (but it's bigger). I prefer smaller and more character so I got the LLL (you'll see me using more in future videos now I have the M10)
Despite TH-cam's obsession with sharpness and bokeh balls, I am not tempted at all. Over the last 10-15 years, I have moved closer and closer to equipment that are light to carry and "bang for the buck". For these features, I think no lenses beat the Voigtlander 35mm Nokton SC. Far from a "perfect" lens for everyone. At least not if you are a pixel peeper, but for what it is in terms of size- performance- fast (f1.4) , and the price there are few who can match it.
Thanks
Thanks Roham, agreed, i'm like you in that the more I do photos the more I appreciate small lenses/ lightweight setup. Yes for a 1.4 lens the Nokton is hard to beat in terms of size. I love my bang for buck stuff too.. I really enjoy Nikon SLR stuff (Manual bodies and lenses) and Barnacks for value .
Just purchased my first Leica lens for my Nikon Z9. I have two Voigtlander lenses. The 40mm f/1.2 Nokton and 15mm f/4.5 . The Leica is the 90mm f/2.0 Summicron . I purchased the Vogt 40 f/1.2 and Leica 90mm f/2.0 Summicron from your reviews. I too shoot Nikkor glass and Nikon and Nikkormat bodies because of bang for buck. Also I think the bodies are so simple to use . They are especially easy to use fast in those get the shot quick situations when needed or you can just take your time . Now the Z9 has been a handful for my old fashioned brain . K.I.S.S. Is usually my montra. I do live the Z9 with manual focus glass . It’s blazing fast and accurate even with f/1.2 glass and live music action. It’s me moving more than them.
I noticed that you don't have review on Leica 35mm Summicron f2 ASPH but many 35mm voigh. Do you feel that Voighlander 35mm is more reasonable (in term of price, image and quality) to use?
Hi Thon, I do love the size of the Summicron 35mm but ended up buying the Minolta 40mm f2 instead which is similar to the Summicron 40 in terms of size and rendering. Most of my Voigtlander are faster or smaller (and much cheaper) bs Cron. I guess I bought mainly as cheaper vs Lux and Cron 35s.
How does this compare to the 35mm Ultron 1.7 and the 35mm Ultron ii
As mentioned in the video I think the APO is better but the 1.7 is a close second. I've not tried the Ultron v2
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom must have missed that part. Thanks matt
Which lens code did you use in the camera
Hi Geoffrey, I normally do use any lens profiles (as strange as that sounds)
Thanks
I’ll assume these aren’t coded for profiles?
Correct but you can code them with a bit of black paint. (Not done mine yet. I 'll do a video when I get around to it).
I believe this cat eye bokeh is mechanical vignetting.
Ah thank you
I see the Skopar f2.5 a twat sharper than the other two. Look at the leather; it has more resolution.
Thanks KJ, I watched the video again so I can answer. The reason the leather is sharper on the Skopar is it is a 2.5 lens meaning the depth of sharpest (when focused on the front of the lens) reaches far enough back to make the leather look sharper. It doesn't mean it's sharper, it's actually the softest of these 3 lenses (but still a great performer). I still use mine. (When looking at sharpness only compare the writing on the front of the lens in these photos). Hope that helps. Matt
Please compare this to the Leica equivalent that’s what I’d love to see.
If I ever get to test the Leica equivalents I will for sure!
35 APO or 35 F2 Biogon ZM?
Also awesome channle
Hmm, I’ve yet to test the Biogon but I know it’s good. APO is bigger
N'empeches que photographier en couleur, vous va très bien.
Thank you! Yes sometimes :)
What's the difference between the voigtlander and Leica besides price?
You'd need to check the Leica specs to get the exact differences but the Leica is quite a bit smaller to start with. The Voigtlander gives much better value.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom btw, I found your flickr page and your work is great!
How this lens focus breathing in video mode?
It’s a manual lens 😁
@@salduaij That's funny everyone know it's a manual lens does that mean it doesn't have focus breathing ? Focus breathing is a term that describes the change in focal length that occurs as a result of adjusting the focusing distance of a lens. It is a common issue that occurs on many photographic lenses but some new lenses are eliminated focus breathing , for video application it can be problem & i think this lens need to test properly to figure out that .
Hello I think this lens will be fine for video. It's not a cheap plastic AF lens / zoom lens. I would not expect any issues.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Yeah recently had a chance to talk with Cosina engineer's & they recommend Voigtlander M mount lenses over Zeiss primes
@@arunr4103 thanks, interesting. Both of these lenses are made in the same factory. I use Zeiss too and haven’t seen any issues with dust inside.
I'd call it the Ford Taurus of 35mm lenses.
Ha thanks Daniel!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom To clarify ... at some point in car manufacturing, safety and gas efficiency became so paramount that every car started to look the same -- let's call it the Ford Taurus. This Voigtlander is like a new car with great safety rating and amazing gas efficiency, especially at the price point. .. But ... in five years, it will be harder to tell it apart, especially the image quality, from a lot of the competition.
I knew a child would come handy one day!
- Come on kid, let me introduce you to your new family.
- but Daddy I lov...
- there's no love here, it's about priorities.
Haha this is why I don't have children...(Note.. I didn't have any before either haha!) :D ..and I have no big car.. can you see where i'm going with this haha :) ..or no tv or no house.. but I have some nice cameras :) ..it's about priorities!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I'm sure to play you build small cabins by piling your lenses like Lego and you go inside with a flashlight to be in your world 😂
We need a picture of all your stuff to realize how big your collection is.
@@REMY.C. haha I’m actually trying to sell some now my face is on the web. I dont want the worry of having 10+ years worth of camera collecting (buying to use)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I was wondering about that, there's a risk for sure... unless... Unless you send me your collection, I'll take care of it 😂
When I watched the video I was thinking "another lens? How does he do when he wants to pick one? It must be like a wardrobe dilemma. 3 hours later..."
For me I solved it. I only have 2 lenses for my current camera and an M adapter just in case. Oh and my wardrobe is kinda batman cave to have 0 choice : black tee-shirts and pants. Just grab&go 😂
@@REMY.C. I’ve got my food down to zero thought needed (tick), clothes I keep simple ish.. I don’t follow fashion but probably need to a bit more (half tick) and then the cameras.. my idea is simplify everything else first then deal with it and in that time make videos with them! (I like the zero thought idea then concentrate on what’s important). Yes packing is a nightmare. 2am finish for the London trip, up at 5am 😭🙈
I find the Ultron 2.0/35mm, softer compared to this APO LANTHAR
Yes 100%. APO are the top but I bought the Ultron as it’s the perfect balance of everything for me.
W😱W
Good lens!
I know this is picky but I don’t like those colored green blue and red APO logo stripes on the front. It looks like the color TV insignia you used to see on the front of a 1980s Sony TV set. Meh
Haha Yes I’m sure they are a love hate thing for people! I don’t mind them.
You have the eye 👁 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks Aubrey! Yes I guess I am lucky.. I used to draw and paint as a teenager and eventually I found my way to photography.
Purple ghost 👻
Haha some of these Voigtlander do this but luckily not too often!
"Premium film" in the Leica?
If you buy premium film for top quality lenses, you should do more.
Precess the film in the best developer.
Avoid push processing.
Do not make a cocktail of developers
Never mix the developer with coffee or aspirine.
Do not pie into the developung tank.
Find the best photo lab and contact the chief.
Enlarge the negs on Forte bromide paper.
Frame the prints behind glass.
It is a long way for Premium quality.
I choose the 35 mm Summilux fle at my m10d. Just love it.
As you like the feeling and the quality of the lens, as a ' promoter' , why do you still pronounce the name Voigtlander the wrong way??
(no hard feelings :) )
th-cam.com/video/iW_iBmUC_Xc/w-d-xo.html
Thanks and yes sorry for saying if the English way not the correct way!
Nice review! Please try to pronounce the lens name properly.
Thanks Göran!
For me its a design failure as its simply too big,reminds me of the zeiss distagon,,a great lens that after the initial honeymoon will stay at home.
I have a 35mm f2 distagon , if i go out I pick my voigtländer 40mm f2 ultron over the distagon , the distagon stays at home
For the quality of lens, it isn't. It's much smaller than rivalling Sony and Sigma.
Thanks Stephen, yes the size was the biggest drawback for me (and weight). The 1.2 is bigger and heavier but both are too big as a walk around lens on a M/CL body.
Thanks for confirming. Yes there is a lot going for small lenses for sure. (I do the same with my big cameras vs small ones too).
Yes I was thinking about this when making the video.. I say it's big as i'm used to M mount glass but anyone using SL glass or any other make and it is probably really compact! It's just big (heavy) for an M I think.
"This lens is very corrected and very sharp" *Mentally tunes out and watches pretty pictures* let's be honest, both you and I know, that I like my lenses to be less than perfect, and have tons of character
Thanks John, yes as you know I love my vintage glass for it's character so tried to wear my digital MF hat with this one, stopping down to make the most of the resolution. Like shooting with a Hassy. :)
Circular lens hoods are no good.
Professional lenses and cameras need
rectangular and square lens hoods
Ha I knew this would be your comment before I even read the name. Yes rectangles look nice.
It's almost too sharp for portraiture.
Yes in bad light or less perfect skin agreed. If you saw my Ultron video I said that was too sharp for many portraits.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom, thanks for the response. Yeah, sharpness isn't everything in a lens. Still that lens appears to be a killer!
@@harrylew thanks Harry! Agreed, I have various great lenses but this one really popped in terms of sharpness.
Great for landscape photos
too sharp?
It depends what you shoot and if digital or film
What is it with those stupid sun stars that you spend so much time on it…?
Haha it's what you get from some lenses when you stop down to f16-22 (depends on the lens). People normally like for night photos or I guess phots with the sun in so I try to show if a lens has this. I use this feature less for my usual model portrait work
Vastly over rated. Made by Cosina in Japan and marketed to gullibles. A Panasonic G9 with a Leica-Panasonic prime lens will give you just as good results for $1000 including camera and up to 60mp.
Thanks! Interesting you say the G9 as I’m now shooting MFT too (and enjoying it!) I bought the Leica 15mm after my recent Leica vs PanaLeica video. Is that what you use?
I greatly appreciate your excellent reviews. [beerclink]
Thanks Dan!