"This list isn't about strength. It's about technical skill." "The Taskmaster isn't higher on this list because he doesn't have super strength like Captain America."
If that is the case then Shang Chi and Iron Fist should be way lower and Wolverine should always be at the top of the list since he can incorporate his healing factor and senses into his fighting style. Every mutant would have to be put above everyone since their powers are naturally occurring and not a product of a serum or some outside forces I.e cosmic rays like the FF or man built armor like BP and Iron Man. This list is supposed to be based solely on skill not on how powerful the characters are. I think he used a bit of hypocrisy when it came to Taskmaster since his abilities would put him on par skill wise with everyone. We have seen Shang Chi take down super villains more stronger than him with just his skill so strength shouldn’t have been a factor at all in the making of this list.
Black Panther was too low, Taskmaster way too high. Taskmaster in particular often loses to these other characters because he relies on what he's learned from others instead of mastering his own abilities, his fight IQ alone is the lowest of the group.
Taskmaster has single-handedly fought off The Avengers. The truth is, he's rarely beaten in fights, instead cutting his losses and choosing to escape. Writers have a bad habit of dumbing him down and making him unable to beat people he can't copy, and that's horribly inaccurate.
Paul Rebold But he has never defeated Black Panther though. Plus the knowledge that he obtains is limited to what he already knows. New information pushes old information out. If it wasn't for that weakness he could have a permanent seat in the top 3 of martial arts. But when it comes to Black Panther he literally knows every form of Martial Arts and has mastered them all. Plus with Marvel Legacy, but Black Panther and Iron Fist now have over 1 Million years of experience in their own unique ways, which is why Black Panther and Iron Fist should be in the top 2 spots.
King Bagheera I'm not sure Tasky has ever taken on Panther, to be honest. As for the limited memory issue, they talked about it in his mini, but beyond that it seems to be something not factored in. Even so, he forgets non-combat related memories. That said, if you look at the list of characters Taskmaster has duplicated (and retains), it's most of the people on this list as well as numerous others.
Something else to consider about Taskmaster's ability is that he isn't just as good as the people he mimics, but knowing someone else's moves as intimately as he can means that he can effectively fight those people with the same kind of ability to predict what they will do that Cassandra Cain has, meaning that while he could fight as good as Captain America, he would also put Captain America himself at a disadvantage.
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The problem with Wolverine is that pretty much since he went feral, the writers forget that he's skilled, so he's _usually_ written as a brawler with one story every two years bringing him back to a skilled fighter. Much like when they reign in his healing factor when it gets too extreme.
Exactly. I'm not sure how he's considered an elite fighter anymore since even with his adamantium, healing factor, training, and other mutant benefits, every fight he's in he needs massive healing afterwards. He rarely goes into a fight without losing an eye or having his intestines flopping around. That's not the sign of a skilled warrior, that's the sign of an overpowered warrior who wins because he can't be killed :/
Robin Thrush: Yeah tell me about it, there actually used to be a time when Wolverine showed H2H skills that were "Captain America" tier...... How things change.
As I said, they bring that skill back every now and again, and they did that a few years ago when they introduced Daken. Logan fought Cap and would have won (gave Cap an embolism in his leg from a precision strike, I think) when Cap learned Logan was going to kill Daken with the Muramasa blade (which is back in the All New Wolverine series currently).
Robin Thrush Pretty much always looking half dead after a fight, then his healing factor kicks in. He's especially always gettin' his tail whooped in the X-Men movies. All he does is run, and swing with an occasional leap here and there. No agility whatsoever 😐😒. The Wolverine from the early 90's use to get it in.
As a fan of Shang-Chi I'm hoping the film not only gets Shang-Chi's character right including his ever-changing views on the concepts of honor, and human nature but also has awesome fight scenes that accurately show why Shang-Chi is the best fighter in the Marvel Universe.
I’m so confused. If black panther has mastered all the martial arts in the world and has access to previous panthers, then how tf is Captain America higher on the list?
And black panther beat Wolverine in a fight without his healing factor which showed the flaws in his fighting style...and this list about fighting right
Explain to me how Captain America's several skills and relatively limited experience beat Wolverine's two hundred years of mastering and utilising every known martial art on this and several other planets.
To me, giving wolverine all of this credit is a new thing. In the 80s, it was his healing factor and his berserker rages that would ultimately save him. Besides what I said didn’t shingen or whatever his name is beat him handedly in the Frank Miller mini series?
Marvin Garcia I dont like that fight. It looks like the writter just loved bp and wanted to make him look awesone. Karnak its suposed to be the reference in martial arts and hand to hand combat even to the best heroes. Its what he is suppoused to be... Anyway... Bp is also faster, stronger, etc. Than karnak who has only pure technique and skill
Black Panther should’ve been a Top 3 fighter He’s like Batman but with superhuman abilities and a better suit he’s mastered every fighting style known to man and he isn’t afraid to kill people unlike Batman
In a different universe, he became a assassin who was trained in all fighting styles and trained his spider-sense to the point he was able to tell someone was coming to kick his ass from miles away, and had enough time to eat, get dress, and plan how he was going surprise attack them, which work, and also he killed wolverine, and brutality beat black widow, and he no longer quips but has turned his web shooters into guns in his wrist which is pretty badass, he later modified it to shoot multiple webs ( different varieties) and different types of bullets
He definitely should, he's one of the best natural fighters in Marvel and known by reputation to be the toughest guy in the city full of superheroes. His martial arts skills were always improving too
Marvel rated their own characters. Real official ratings on their site. Daredevil is only a 5 on fighting ability out of 7. There are several 7s and a TON of 6s. Daredevil would be pretty far down even if he was the best out of ALL of the people rated at 5.
Me mr. You, who is overrating him? If someone is overrated that is Captain America. Black Panther has beaten him in the comics many times in hand to hand combat, so how is Black Panther overrated? If anything he is super underrated.
@@cube7439 originally it was to replace his spider sense because he had lost it for a bit when he got it back however his fighting experience enhanced his spidey sense
Remember. There is "physical skill" and "physical capability." No matter how skilled you're in fighting, if your physical capability isn't enough, it's difficult to perform some movements. In summary you need balance between those two. Taksmaster might be able to copies Cap's fist but he's unable to do it as perfect as Cap's due to physical limitations.
@@zaina2897 Sure, but Daredevil's a better fighter than Wolverine. He's also a better fighter than Iron Fist, IF only wins if he uses his magic fist. But if we're going to count that, then Spider-Man should be on the list at number 1.
Daredevil was at one point Marvel's equivalent to Batman, mostly because of Frank Miller. Anyone who reads DD comics and thinks IF or Cap is a better martial artist is kidding themselves. They captured this incredibly well in the show, showing how he's always improving and how he has a reputation for being the greatest natural fighter there is, extremely comic accurate.
@@kirin8735 different part of it, they're getting rebooted, first character getting rebooted is daredevil is in spider-man far from home, he's not gonna be the blind warrior yet until she hulk series ( by that I mean he's just blind murdock until she hulk series we'll see daredevil)
Here's comic book evidence of SOME but NOT ALL of Black Panther's feats...so please take the time to read this all the way through a couple of times at your earliest convenience. Thank you very much in advance. www.comicbookmovie.com/comics/marvel_comics/superhero-feats-black-panther-a76196
Lol nothing will ever compare to the nerf Hulk got in the MCU ..but hey atleast there's consistency in these characters' power level unlike in the comics
@@arandomguy9518 smh ikr they nerfed my favorite character the hulk so fucking bad it’s disgraceful🤦🏻♂️ hulk in the comics is a whole different story😭
@@arandomguy9518 also considering that the MCU are saying that captain marvel is stronger than Thor I don’t think there’s much consistency there either
Marvel has rated these people on their site. Official numbers. Black Panther is popular. Cool. His fighting ability is rated 5 out of 7 by marvel. He's not getting on a top 10 list of fighters unless it's top 10 fighters from Wakanda with a sister named Shuri. There are a few 7s. There are a TON of 6s. There are a lot of 5s. You'd have to have a pretty long list to start including 5s (Daredevil and Black Panther are both only a 5).
My list 1.) Shang Chi 2.) Iron Fist 3.) Black Panther 4.) Taskmaster 5.) Captain America 6.) Karnak 7.) Wolverine 8.) Daredevil 9.) Gamora 10.) Elektra
@@teehee1520 BP has mastered all forms of Martial Arts he’s knocked out with 1 hit Karnak Cap America and Wolverine on multiple occasions he’s like Batman only with the superhuman abilities and better suit Just as smart, more rich and like I said Mastered all forms of Martials arts and hand to hand combat. Plus he’s not afraid to kill.
Maybe cuz cap did the same + has the ability to learn every fighting style by looking at it and also created his own fighting styles ??? Captain america is the batman of dc
@@egghead1985 technically he still could even without his armor he's still has the power of the god panther of wakanda hell in a weakened state he threw a spear hard enough to go through concrete
GTS maybe. But I don’t think he could beat captain America he had trouble with the Winter soldier and others with the armor. Robin/Red hood would take him out.
If we’re talking beating the others on this list then black panther should’ve been higher on the list. He beat dare devil, wolverine, and Captain America on several occasions. Black panther should’ve been number 3 or 4.
@@KingTChalla69 he’s beaten daredevil in 2 hits, he’s fought on par with Shang chi, he beat black panthers grandfather and fought to a stand still with tchalla multiple times, he fought and beat batroc on multiple occasions as well as cache who has mastered every form of combat, beat US agent who was stronger and faster, has been stated to have mastered every form of martial arts while fighting Zemo, and can predict what his opponent is going to do after one fight
0:30 "pure based on fighting skills" 6:38 "He can't pull those moves with the same level of power" I thought power wouldn't matter to this list, only skill...
Eduardo Maia but then you take away his powers and he can't even pull off the moves. So you either say he can do the moves but without the same power, or you say he can't even do the moves.
look at it in this logic a guy with a sledgehammer immitating a guy with sword... do you honestly expect the guy with the hammer to achieve the same results copying the guy withe sword?
You guys are missing the point. Is not about if he's as strong, or if he can get the same results. We are talking about martial arts. His power allow him to do the exact fighting style of anyone. So when you list all the kinds of acrobacies that DD can do or all the fighting styles shang chi knows, Its all the same since taskmaster can do all that stuff and more. Sure, when he learns some of caps moves, sure if one of the moves expect you to, I don't know, jump really high, if you don't you can't complete the move, so this move in particular is useless. But since we are talking about martial arts the are several other moves to learn, copy and adapt. So, in the end, I don't think you can put someone in a better position then taskmaster for the only reason that person's stamina, strenght and so one are better. We are not measuring who would win, we are measuring who has the most skill.
Hopefully they give him a mask so a stunt double who is trained can do most of the fights. The actor barely had training and didn't get much practice in with the fights from what I hear.
I wish that Frank Castle had at least gotten an honorable mention. He's highly trained in many forms of martial arts such as: Chin Na, Hwa Rang Do, Krav Maga, Muay Thai, Nash Ryu Jujutsu, Ninjutsu, Shorin-ryu Karate and Systema. He also has extensive bladed-weapon training. He's gone toe-to-toe with several of the people on this list and even beaten them on occasions. His immense tolerance to pain and being able to absorb physical punishment has allowed him to take on many fighters considered to be elite status in the MCU. His mastery over his own mind and will is such that he can shrug off mind-controlling attempts by super-beings. He's also extensively trained in military special operations and tactics.
You forgot that Captain America's brain also functions several times faster than a non-powered humans as pertains to combat and trajectories, letting him predict movements of opponents and objects alike, which is how he bounces his shield around so perfectly.
The Emo Emu same for Wolverine. It literally says it on Marvels info site. Due to his enhanced senses and experience He can predict up to 7 moves ahead of his opponent for multiple scenarios and be prepared to react to each one before they even happen. Wolverine and Cap both should have been way higher.
I am pretty sure that in the Marvel universe Captain America is the greatest hand to hand fighter...period. There isn't any but this guy, unless Cap is fighting someone way stronger or with other powers, Cap gets to win.
As much as I absolutely hate wolverine. After all the fights i've seen with him and even that beginning scene from the death of wolverine where there was an entire island of dead people who had tried to kill him, I have to agree that wolverine should be higher on the list
I'm pretty surprised Deadpool didn't make the list too. I've seen him beat Shatterstar, Cable and Wolverine before, but Wolverine wasn't at his best at the time....
Makhi Bridgett remember Bp has vibranium in his suit so he can take a lot of damage. And if he starts to lose dont forget hes smarter than tony stark so he could intelligently figure out a way to win.
Marvel has official numbers for this stuff on their site. Back Panther is a 5 out of 7. Iron Fist is a 6 out of 7. That's a big difference. There are a handful of characters rated as 7 out of 7 and he got very few of them. You'd think .... Ares ... god of war ... would make a list about the best fighters. He's rated as a 7 out of 7 (with a ton of strength and durability). Sabertooth ... he's a 7 out of 7 for fighting and also has enhanced strength and durability and speed. Mandarin ... he's got 7 for fighting AND intelligence AND energy. Black Panther would be pretty low (3 durability, 3 energy, 5 fighting, 5 intelligence, 2 speed, 3 strength). Omega Red (5 durability, 4 energy, 6 fighting, 4 intelligence, 3 speed, 5 strength) Yeah? Ares (6 durability, 1 energy, 7 fighting, 2 intelligence, 2 speed, 5 strength) If you want to go purely by fighting ability ... that's just the one number to look at and you can ignore the rest. Characters like Hulk and Thor only have a 4 fighting ability, so fighting ability doesn't really include strength and other powers. Yeah? If Silver Surfer is 7 durability, 7 energy, 5 fighting, 4 intelligence, 7 speed, 6 strength ... then the fact that Silver Surfer can move faster than the speed of light and destroy a planet from outside of the solar system before you've had a chance to recognize that he's moving ... isn't really a factor in the fact that his fighting ability is only a 5 .. it's not like Shang Chi's fighting ability of 7 would make him a match for the Silver Surfer ... unless they were just punching and kicking at each other without durability and strength or speed.
Danish that’s like saying that comic writers get crazy and create a character that has a completely indestructible skeleton and an ability to completely heal from 99% of all severe wounds, which is pretty stupid. It’s comic books and superheroes, guys, relax. Can you imagine how boring comic books would be if they were realistic? I’ll take stupid and fun over realistic and boring any day of the week.
Deebo Molina why do a top ten dc or Marvel's best strategies or technicians characters.. these characters rely on fighting and mind games at the same time..
@@josefbosef5668 you basing yourself in comics or movies, sounds like movies, wolverine is a martial arts beast, his x men movies didn’t show this unfortunately, and daredevil is literally daredevil, not saying Elektra is weaker, but you shouldn’t be surprised if she was
What about Ares ... the god of war? What about Mandarin ... What about Sabertooth? Marvel has real numbers for fighting ability for their characters at their site. Official stuff, not fan stuff. Daredevil and Black Panther are both rated at 5 out of 7 Shang Chi, Taskmaster, and Wolverine are all rated as 7 out of 7. Just like Ares and Crossbones and Sabertooth and Mandarin. I think your list would have to be .... EXTREMELY long for Daredevil or Black Panther to make it ... unless you were just talking about the MCU or something.
Yung Fleet73 Spider-Man? I wouldn’t say that spiderman is a martial artist by any means, he just mainly uses his spider sense and spider strength with his tech suit
@@Name11307 I can agree with that but it's clear he's not a martial artist,you don't have to be one to be a good fighter. And plus I'm going off the comics version not the MCU.
Spiderman would be to strong for them Physically, and his spider senses alone are way more enhanced and complex and give him a very superb edge, which at the same time he relied on for long time until he actually trained.
@@Cthulhuguru Bullseye is good but he pretty consistently loses to Daredevil when Daredevil is able to close the distance. So since this list is about hand-to-hand combat, Daredevil qualifies and Bullseye doesn't. However if the list were about ranged combat, Bullseye would be absolutely first place, with Kate Bishop second and Clint Barton third.
Marvel has official ratings for the characters at their site. Thor, Hercules and SpiderMan are all rated at 4 out of 7. Very few power house characters have a fighting ability higher than 4. Thor, Hercules, Hulk, She-hulk, Luke Cage, Colossus, Red Hulk, Strong Guy ... all have a fighting ability of 4. Wonder Man has a fighting ability of 5 (durability 6, energy 7, strength 6). Same fighting ability as Black Panther or Daredevil. Guardian has a fighting ability of 5 (durability 6, fighting 5, energy 5, strength 5) Omega Red has 5 durability 6 fighting and 5 strength. That's a very high fighting ability for significant strength. Absorbing Man 6 durability, 6 fighting, 6 strength. This character seems like they should be virtually unstoppable. Sabertooth is 4 durability, 7 fighting, 4 strength Ares is rocking 6 durability, 7 fighting and 5 strength Mandarin is 4 durability, 7 energy, 7 fighting, 7 intelligence, and 5 strength (doctor doom only has 6 energy and 6 intelligence)
Deadpool should be on the list since he has one of the most unpredictable fighting styles and when he gets serious in a fight can rival wolverine, captain America and confuse freaking taskmaster...also hes a master with kitanas and other weapons... please reply and tell me your thoughts
How? He out skills C.A by a long shot with the ability of recalling multiple years of fighting and having enhanced reflexes, strength and agility like Cap, except for B.P has way more knowledge than Cap. If anything Black Panther is underrated.
Jesus fuck, dont be some elitist ass like Mr. You, give a fucking reason to why you even think he's overrated. I would've guessed TH-cam stopped this stupid habit a long time ago.
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Blade is a marvel character?! Damn. And Blade should definitely be in this list then. He would wipe the floor of most of these guys even though he lost to Dracula but to be fair, Blade didn't have his sword.
Blade listed Blade's fighting ability as 5 out of 7. He should mention all of the 7 out of 7 before talking about 5 out of 7, right? And, all of the 6 out of 7?
I've heard it's written that Taskmaster can learn to perform physical skills at a superhuman level by watching them at increased speed but this puts great strain on him.
Doctor Strange and Mantis should be on the list too, at least as honorable mentions. Strange is so powerful with his magic that people forget that he's a master martial artist that's stood toe to toe with both Black Panther and Mantis h2h. I believe he even fought Dormammu h2h and won too.
Maybe it's his suit that gains him the victory more so than his skills, even though he indeed has mean skills. If Cap, Wolv, and Ironfist all had that same vibranium suit, you think Black Panther would still win? Or if they all (including Black Panther) had no suit at all, you still think he'd win?
Caps shield is his suit, Wolvies healing factor and Adamantium bones are his suit and Ironfist's chi is his suit. So yes I do think Black Panther can beat all of them in H2H combat only. After all he has mastered every fighting style on earth plus some extra ones as well.
I think cap is way too high on this list tbh. Why would someone who has learnt "a lot" of fighting styles be higher on a list than people who have learnt them "all"? Come on Eric. Biased much? Smh. Slots 1&2 should be Logan or tchalla interchangeably for having mastered all earthly fighting styles not to mention some extraterrestrial ones; slots 3&4 should be shangchi and iron fist, 5 taskmaster, 6 should be a tie between cap and daredevil. Anyway, I do enjoy your videos.✌🏼
@The middle ground you are a moron, wolverine and cap have fought 3 times and cap got owned every time. Stop spreading bs. And movies, wolverine doesn't even know how to fight in them so stop assuming bullshit as well
Daredevil and Black Panther should be in the Top 3. Panther has already beaten Cap in a hand to hand fight with pure skills and Daredevil has been stated to be more skilled than Cap, too. The only reason why in the comics they stalemated each other was because Cap has the advantage in Physical stats.
jah crispy Actually Black Panther is better in every single category. The only thing that makes Captain America GREAT is his morals and his Super Soldier Serum, without it he's either skinny lil kid or a weak old man. Black Panther was peak human befire taking the heart shaped herb. The herb just connects him to the Panther God Bast who then enhances him future. As far as skills go *ALL Royal Family members are trained since birth to be the Black Panther.* Captain America was trained when he was an adult and after he received the *Super Soldier Serum.* Black Panther has *always had more skills* than Captain America. All Royal Family members have to train and study throughout the life in order to be not just a Warrior but a Ruler and leader as well. Which means they would've required far more skills then any US Soldier, or any other soldier, no matter how special they are. T'Challa has also MASTERED EVERY SINGLE MARTIAL ART IN THE WORLD AND THEN SOME...Captain America at BEST may only know a dozen to 2 dozen different Martial Arts. They're considered equal in what they represent...Captain America = the American people and Black Panther = Black People Everywhere. Outside of that, Black Panther has always been far more skilled than Captain America. Steve Rogers *NEEDS* the Super Soldier Serum, whereas T'Challa *DOES NOT NEED* the Heart Shaped Herb or the Vibranium Suit. He's worthy to have it but a Master without it. The Heart Shaped Herb and the Vibranium Suit just makes T'Challa that much more Better.
jah crispy Those marvel handbooks change all the time and most of those are base on votes and not what yhe characters can actually do because that's contradicting. I've read different ones and I've seen them change all the time. If you read the official Bio from Marvel on what they can actually do, then that will really prove who has more. That Power Scale is like Power lvls in DBZ...they don't count for shit lol.
Rick Scorsese um no, they aren't. Gamora knows techniques from all over the universe and Murdock is nothing compared to Marvel's more renowned martial artists such as Shang-Chi and even Elektra. In the most recent Defenders comic he let Danny Rand take Elektra instead of fighting her himself.
Micah Bou 🤔You do realize that who wins in a particular fight in a comic book is dependent on who the writer of the story is,correct?That being said,if i think Daredevil and Black Panther would whip Elektra or Iron Fist,it’s only a opinion,not facts.Only the writers can determine the outcome.
This list is contradicting. Taskmaster is faulted for not having super strength when at the top of the episode he stated this list is based on skill not strength. I’m guessing he let his own biased opinions regulate the placement of the characters.
Spider-Man's fighting prowess is closely linked with his powers; like his superhuman strength, speed and agility, complemented by his Spider sense. His only Martial art is" The Way of the Spider."
Jonny Hernandez One of the factors is that Spider-Man isn’t on this list is that SpiderMan holds back most of his punches if he wanted to he can kill a man with a single punch
Marvel actually has a list of them. Though they've been affirmative-actioning it to ridiculous degrees in the past five years. Moon Girl is supposed to be #1 now. Used to be Richards > Stark > Banner > Xavier, I think. Amadeus Cho kept bringing it up in the Incredible Herc run after WW Hulk since he was #7.
tyler pontiff well I would understand your point if he focused on caps strength . But instead he highlighted caps stamina and durability which help him very much with his fighting style
At Shan-Chi you said that even though Iron Fist is stronger you put Shan-Chi above him because he’s a better fighter. But at Taskmaster you said he’s only at Number 4 because of the reason that he only can copy the fighting style but not the powers hence he wouldn’t be the strongest one on the list (but the best fighter). These 2 statements kinda fight each other.
Quentin Johnson that made no sense. If he knows it and he's on Earth how the fuck doesn't it "exist on Earth"?? Do you mean he knows fighting styles "not native" to Earth?
Nah! Black Panther is better than Captain America, Black Panther trained since he was a boy, Captain America trained when he was already an adult, the Captain knows 50 types of martial arts while Black Panther knows all types of martial arts. I think the list was made at random.
Not even close. Marvel has rated fighting ability of their characters on their site. Both are rated 5 out of 7. Not rank. their rating out of 7 points is 5. Lots of characters with a 6. A bunch with a 7. Anyone with a ranking of 5 would be below ....everyone with a higher ranking ... right? So above either of them would be .... Omega Red, Moondragon, Mantis, Stick, Night Thrasher, Absorbing Man, US Agent, Ancient One, Psylocke, Gamora, Cable .... and on and on that list would go.
Jonah Edwards Yeah and that neutralizes Captain Americas add ons too.Panther beat Cap in hand to hand combat they're physical attributes are similar he's just the better fighter.
I think what he is implying is that Task Master tends to rely just on his photographic memory a bit too much. When he does a move he expects to do more, but actually doesn't, it kinda leaves him dumbfounded for a second. That split second he finds himself wondering is brutal in a fight. In short, he's unable to improvise his own techniques and/or tactics sometimes.
"This list isn't about strength. It's about technical skill."
"The Taskmaster isn't higher on this list because he doesn't have super strength like Captain America."
Sparky Mularkey I was thinking the same
Yup I noticed that too. Hypocrisy anyone?
Well where Taskmaster may be able to match the skill he can't supersede it... So in that case the power is a factor because it separates.
If that is the case then Shang Chi and Iron Fist should be way lower and Wolverine should always be at the top of the list since he can incorporate his healing factor and senses into his fighting style. Every mutant would have to be put above everyone since their powers are naturally occurring and not a product of a serum or some outside forces I.e cosmic rays like the FF or man built armor like BP and Iron Man. This list is supposed to be based solely on skill not on how powerful the characters are. I think he used a bit of hypocrisy when it came to Taskmaster since his abilities would put him on par skill wise with everyone. We have seen Shang Chi take down super villains more stronger than him with just his skill so strength shouldn’t have been a factor at all in the making of this list.
Udon Taskmaster should be top 2. So should regular taskmaster.
Marvel made Iron Fist look like a chump in the Netflix series. His GF was a better fighter then him.
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Parth Shah but in the 2nd he finally got fixed and was a good fighter yeah it was to late but better late than never right
Netflix did that
“I am the iron fist!” Gets his ass beat lol how the series went
Well the MCU wasn't that far into crazy yet. Everything in the MCU isnt supposed to be like the comics lmao
Black Panther was too low, Taskmaster way too high. Taskmaster in particular often loses to these other characters because he relies on what he's learned from others instead of mastering his own abilities, his fight IQ alone is the lowest of the group.
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Taskmaster has single-handedly fought off The Avengers. The truth is, he's rarely beaten in fights, instead cutting his losses and choosing to escape.
Writers have a bad habit of dumbing him down and making him unable to beat people he can't copy, and that's horribly inaccurate.
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But he has never defeated Black Panther though. Plus the knowledge that he obtains is limited to what he already knows. New information pushes old information out. If it wasn't for that weakness he could have a permanent seat in the top 3 of martial arts.
But when it comes to Black Panther he literally knows every form of Martial Arts and has mastered them all. Plus with Marvel Legacy, but Black Panther and Iron Fist now have over 1 Million years of experience in their own unique ways, which is why Black Panther and Iron Fist should be in the top 2 spots.
King Bagheera I'm not sure Tasky has ever taken on Panther, to be honest. As for the limited memory issue, they talked about it in his mini, but beyond that it seems to be something not factored in. Even so, he forgets non-combat related memories.
That said, if you look at the list of characters Taskmaster has duplicated (and retains), it's most of the people on this list as well as numerous others.
Something else to consider about Taskmaster's ability is that he isn't just as good as the people he mimics, but knowing someone else's moves as intimately as he can means that he can effectively fight those people with the same kind of ability to predict what they will do that Cassandra Cain has, meaning that while he could fight as good as Captain America, he would also put Captain America himself at a disadvantage.
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Daredevil was criminally underrated.
He's not that great. N cuz he only has his series on Netflix been forever since he had a movie
@@tylerdurdeniii4476 he's better then you think just because he doesn't a movie doesn't make him a bad character he still has great comics
@john luongo I respect your opinion
Charlie cox is far better as daredevil then ben afleck, they should give him a film
@Default User I was talking about the newer better daredevil
The problem with Wolverine is that pretty much since he went feral, the writers forget that he's skilled, so he's _usually_ written as a brawler with one story every two years bringing him back to a skilled fighter. Much like when they reign in his healing factor when it gets too extreme.
Exactly. I'm not sure how he's considered an elite fighter anymore since even with his adamantium, healing factor, training, and other mutant benefits, every fight he's in he needs massive healing afterwards. He rarely goes into a fight without losing an eye or having his intestines flopping around. That's not the sign of a skilled warrior, that's the sign of an overpowered warrior who wins because he can't be killed :/
Robin Thrush:
Yeah tell me about it, there actually used to be a time when Wolverine showed H2H skills that were "Captain America" tier...... How things change.
As I said, they bring that skill back every now and again, and they did that a few years ago when they introduced Daken. Logan fought Cap and would have won (gave Cap an embolism in his leg from a precision strike, I think) when Cap learned Logan was going to kill Daken with the Muramasa blade (which is back in the All New Wolverine series currently).
Robin Thrush
Pretty much always looking half dead after a fight, then his healing factor kicks in. He's especially always gettin' his tail whooped in the X-Men movies. All he does is run, and swing with an occasional leap here and there. No agility whatsoever 😐😒. The Wolverine from the early 90's use to get it in.
Audioplugg maybe when they re-cast him we'll get the comic wolverine
Good job talking about Shang Chi
3 years before yesterday's announcement!!!
As a fan of Shang-Chi I'm hoping the film not only gets Shang-Chi's character right including his ever-changing views on the concepts of honor, and human nature but also has awesome fight scenes that accurately show why Shang-Chi is the best fighter in the Marvel Universe.
@@derrickhaggard yeah marvel better put a lot of there effort into the fight scenes...
You know your boy Arris is on point like a tack tip
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teaser just came out
I like the fact that you showed clips from the Netflix series for Elektra and Daredevil... but not for Iron Fist... HAHA
Wtf is there to show...
Well daredevil did whoop his ass in defenders
Daredevil whooped his ass in defenders lmao
His ass was whooped in defenders by daredevil tho
Daredevil whooped the ass in marvels defenders the ass being iron fist
I’m so confused. If black panther has mastered all the martial arts in the world and has access to previous panthers, then how tf is Captain America higher on the list?
Good point!
And black panther beat Wolverine in a fight without his healing factor which showed the flaws in his fighting style...and this list about fighting right
This list is off
Tbh same can be said for everyone in the list here lol.
In the comic cap trained panther
Explain to me how Captain America's several skills and relatively limited experience beat Wolverine's two hundred years of mastering and utilising every known martial art on this and several other planets.
Exactly, I was thinking the same.
Also, note that Wolverine is also Acrobatic.
To me, giving wolverine all of this credit is a new thing. In the 80s, it was his healing factor and his berserker rages that would ultimately save him. Besides what I said didn’t shingen or whatever his name is beat him handedly in the Frank Miller mini series?
Because Wolverine didnt apenas Hundred years knowing martial arts tf...
Wolverine is not Batman...
Because Marvel refuses to allow Captain Goodie Two Shoes to get his ass kicked.
Black panther should be above Karnak as he's embarrassed him before.
Marvin Garcia I dont like that fight. It looks like the writter just loved bp and wanted to make him look awesone. Karnak its suposed to be the reference in martial arts and hand to hand combat even to the best heroes. Its what he is suppoused to be... Anyway... Bp is also faster, stronger, etc. Than karnak who has only pure technique and skill
How often doesn't the hero beat the cillian in comic books...
These are the same "writers" that thought Panther could restrain Silver F'N Surfer with an armbar!?!?
Aaron Forsythe 75% of the time
A fight doesnt just come down skill. You're forgetting BP is superhuman
0:55 #10 Elektra
1:41 #9 Gamora
2:25 #8 Daredevil
3:26 #7 Black Panther
4:31 #6 Wolverine
5:30 #5 Karnak
6:06 #4 Taskmaster
7:09 #3 Captain America
8:01 #2 Iron Fist
9:04 #1 Shang Chi
Black Panther should’ve been a Top 3 fighter
He’s like Batman but with superhuman abilities and a better suit he’s mastered every fighting style known to man and he isn’t afraid to kill people unlike Batman
Thor should be first
He didn’t include him
@@jaysenbustamante9926 I agree 3# Black Panther, #2 Iron First and at #1 Shang-Chi
I think cap and bp are equal and both should be in top3
Imagine how amazing a fighter Spider-Man would be if he was trained in every fighting style.
I know but they obv can't do that cuz he would be like the most op character ever barring supers like thor and sentry
There's a Spider Man in alternate universe who works for S.H.I.E.L.D. Where he's heavlly trained in hand to hand where he beat black widow.
In a different universe, he became a assassin who was trained in all fighting styles and trained his spider-sense to the point he was able to tell someone was coming to kick his ass from miles away, and had enough time to eat, get dress, and plan how he was going surprise attack them, which work, and also he killed wolverine, and brutality beat black widow, and he no longer quips but has turned his web shooters into guns in his wrist which is pretty badass, he later modified it to shoot multiple webs ( different varieties) and different types of bullets
@@lysheathompson3176 what universe and comic?
@@lysheathompson3176 are you talking about the time when Spider-Man became the punisher?
I honestly think black panther should be ahead of cap since he has beaten him a few times in comics
jphillip yeah I know but he was placed behind cap
truth. I was going to say the same thing but you'll handled it
idk idk I still liked the video tho
I think panther and wolverine should be ahead of cap.
Leftleg Trumpcard agreed.
Rest in peace Chadwick Bosman.
Aka Black Panther.
I feel like Daredevil should be higher....
He definitely should, he's one of the best natural fighters in Marvel and known by reputation to be the toughest guy in the city full of superheroes. His martial arts skills were always improving too
@@billbill6094 Not a better fighter than the people above him though, maybe except wolverine
Not should have been here.
Daredevil beat Karnak though
Marvel rated their own characters. Real official ratings on their site. Daredevil is only a 5 on fighting ability out of 7.
There are several 7s and a TON of 6s. Daredevil would be pretty far down even if he was the best out of ALL of the people rated at 5.
If we're talking strength, Black Panther needs to be above Taskmaster. Heart Shaped Herb = Super Soldier Serum👀
Gamora should be Number 1 then
Nope not true. It's about the third of it's quality approximately
I dont think black panther should be on number 7..he atleast on top 3
Faisal Hakim that's what I'm saying but I guess him bodying the fantastic 4 and the Avengers means nothing. But I know for a fact Cap can't beat him
Silver Wolf1111 no. No. Because caps shield is pretty much black panther costume
Ha! Fuck no. I like Panther but there are people way above his skill level
Archangel of Death read comics noob
Archangel of Death its "THE BEST FIGHTER LIST" not "THE MOST POWERFUL BEING IN MARVEL COMICS"
*Black Panther should've been Top 5 easily*
RJ Foyles black panther wolvine and captain america all only make the list because of there super powers the others are about right
Lmao hell nah you people need to stop overrating him.
Me mr. You, who is overrating him? If someone is overrated that is Captain America. Black Panther has beaten him in the comics many times in hand to hand combat, so how is Black Panther overrated? If anything he is super underrated.
Zen0n when did he beat cap in a straight h2h combat in the comics???
+Zen0n you do realize that most on this list have beaten each other. Cap has beaten black panther as many times.
Waitaminute...how is Karnak over Black Panther? I actually own the comic where BP knocked him out in one punch
Me too, his list is way off.
What's that called?
Lmao I know that one too
Dami it bothers me that Spider-Man isn’t on the list
@@carlbloke8797 he isnt even a good fighter
Shang chi trained Spider-Man in Kung Fu. Think about that for a moment
Yes I thought that he would at least get an honorable mention on potential alone
I was just about to mention that. I think he needs a place up here.
He helped Spider-Man develop his own form of fighting that fully utilizes his Spider Sense.
@@cube7439 originally it was to replace his spider sense because he had lost it for a bit when he got it back however his fighting experience enhanced his spidey sense
Justin Ramsey Shang chi trained spider man the way of the spider
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Missed Winter Soldier, Black widow, Thunderbird, Warpath, Moon knight, Blade
Danny Benhur and spider man with his way of the spider
I reckon blade shouldve been on the list
Warpath is so unappreciated.
Other than Blade, Elektra would godstomp all of them.
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Remember. There is "physical skill" and "physical capability." No matter how skilled you're in fighting, if your physical capability isn't enough, it's difficult to perform some movements. In summary you need balance between those two.
Taksmaster might be able to copies Cap's fist but he's unable to do it as perfect as Cap's due to physical limitations.
Honestly daredevil was too low on this list
Nah he got a good position, panther and cap are better.
Spider-Man wasn't even mentioned
He is trained by Shang Chi, and even developed his own fighting style - Way Of The Spider.
But still, Spider-man isn't so skilled yet.
@@zaina2897 Sure, but Daredevil's a better fighter than Wolverine. He's also a better fighter than Iron Fist, IF only wins if he uses his magic fist. But if we're going to count that, then Spider-Man should be on the list at number 1.
Daredevil was at one point Marvel's equivalent to Batman, mostly because of Frank Miller. Anyone who reads DD comics and thinks IF or Cap is a better martial artist is kidding themselves. They captured this incredibly well in the show, showing how he's always improving and how he has a reputation for being the greatest natural fighter there is, extremely comic accurate.
Be freaking consistent man!!! You said its about skills and not power but then u say taskmaster isnt higher cause he doesnt have the power
Exactly 😂
Gamora should've been Number 1 then 😂😂 since she's definitely the Strongest out of the group
CGHSQUAD2K with galaxyssss of fighting styles, not just earth
Taskmaster always gets nerfed
No shit.... and then only honorable mentions freakin moon knight...
I want to see the top 5 marksman in comics of all time so any comic book marksman that would be interesting
Honorable mention , Black Widow . Watched her fight and win over Hawkeye .
I think the Punisher should've also been an honorable mention.
And moonknight
I think black widow and elektra are interchangable
@@kingukatjimune8048 he is one goofy
Blade should be an honorable mention
netflix screwed up everything about Iron Fist.
You realize that those shows are MCU and frankly every character in the MCU gets nerfed
@@kirin8735 everyone but cap he got buffed
They should've done heroes for hire as one show, not the two seperate
@@wallsterrence yeah
@@kirin8735 different part of it, they're getting rebooted, first character getting rebooted is daredevil is in spider-man far from home, he's not gonna be the blind warrior yet until she hulk series ( by that I mean he's just blind murdock until she hulk series we'll see daredevil)
I don't know if cap should be higher than black panther it doesn't feel right
Kobe Brewster
You're right, Black Panther should be in the top 2 spots.
Here's comic book evidence of SOME but NOT ALL of Black Panther's feats...so please take the time to read this all the way through a couple of times at your earliest convenience. Thank you very much in advance.
www.comicbookmovie.com/comics/marvel_comics/superhero-feats-black-panther-a76196
exactly.
Didnt black panther bear captain america in a fight more than once
@️GLO CitY__ He's also beaten the entire Fantastic Four and one of the X-Men teams with Wolverine on it!
The way the MCU nerfed T’challa. Pain.
They nerfed everyone so it evens out
Lol nothing will ever compare to the nerf Hulk got in the MCU ..but hey atleast there's consistency in these characters' power level unlike in the comics
@@arandomguy9518 smh ikr they nerfed my favorite character the hulk so fucking bad it’s disgraceful🤦🏻♂️ hulk in the comics is a whole different story😭
@@arandomguy9518 people always talk about how the hulk got nerfed, thor got nerfed hard!
@@arandomguy9518 also considering that the MCU are saying that captain marvel is stronger than Thor I don’t think there’s much consistency there either
Not to be mean I think Black panther should be at the third spot
Same.
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Yes but I clock a #2 tie
Marvel has rated these people on their site. Official numbers.
Black Panther is popular. Cool. His fighting ability is rated 5 out of 7 by marvel. He's not getting on a top 10 list of fighters unless it's top 10 fighters from Wakanda with a sister named Shuri.
There are a few 7s. There are a TON of 6s. There are a lot of 5s. You'd have to have a pretty long list to start including 5s (Daredevil and Black Panther are both only a 5).
What about moon night , blade , dead pool , Domino , black widow , Winter Soldier , kraven the hunter , Mockingbird
You literally threw the whole strength thing out the window lol
I watched it a year ago and just now noticed this. 😂.
@@Zoclord101 learn to spell
@@Zoclord101 warched?
@@diamonddiggergaming4177 really.... you must of felt like just saying something. For what? To feel superior?
@@Zoclord101 dont blame him for your botch... err sorry, borched spelling...
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My list
1.) Shang Chi
2.) Iron Fist
3.) Black Panther
4.) Taskmaster
5.) Captain America
6.) Karnak
7.) Wolverine
8.) Daredevil
9.) Gamora
10.) Elektra
Cap should be above taskmaster.
I don't know much about Karnak.
Lol mantis is the best marvel fighter
Dd and Wolvie should be higher than Karnak?
Dead pool!??
This is so wrong.
How is Black Panther not above Captain America? He knows the martial arts of CA yet even more. Plus he is smarter and just as physically gifted 🤷🏾♂️
By your logic, Gamora would've beaten them both easily. As she knew more than both of them and is as equally strong.
@@teehee1520 BP has mastered all forms of Martial Arts he’s knocked out with 1 hit
Karnak Cap America and Wolverine on multiple occasions he’s like Batman only with the superhuman abilities and better suit
Just as smart, more rich and like I said Mastered all forms of Martials arts and hand to hand combat. Plus he’s not afraid to kill.
Maybe cuz cap did the same + has the ability to learn every fighting style by looking at it and also created his own fighting styles ???
Captain america is the batman of dc
@@jaysenbustamante9926 cap mastered all martial arts too so what ???
How is bp more skilled
Been waiting for this since the D.C. Episode bru
360nohope er eeees
Because iron fist is still learning...
Black Panther top 5 at least bro you said he's cap and Tony stark put together but cap gotta better rank.?
He definitely should have been top 5!
yup!
Take away his blank panther armor and he can’t be Nightwing let alone captain America
@@egghead1985 technically he still could even without his armor he's still has the power of the god panther of wakanda hell in a weakened state he threw a spear hard enough to go through concrete
GTS maybe. But I don’t think he could beat captain America he had trouble with the Winter soldier and others with the armor. Robin/Red hood would take him out.
If we’re talking beating the others on this list then black panther should’ve been higher on the list. He beat dare devil, wolverine, and Captain America on several occasions. Black panther should’ve been number 3 or 4.
I would but can he still beat them again without that herb thing and his suit
Agree
And they have all beat him
@@johnpauldriskill8737 No they haven’t. Site the source
@@KingTChalla69 he’s beaten daredevil in 2 hits, he’s fought on par with Shang chi, he beat black panthers grandfather and fought to a stand still with tchalla multiple times, he fought and beat batroc on multiple occasions as well as cache who has mastered every form of combat, beat US agent who was stronger and faster, has been stated to have mastered every form of martial arts while fighting Zemo, and can predict what his opponent is going to do after one fight
My top 10.
1. Shang Chi
2. Iron Fist
3. Black Panther
4. Captain America
5. Daredevil
6. Blade
7. Wolverine
8. Elektra
9. Moonknight
10. Black Widow
TaskMaster >>>>> Cap
Where's spidey?!
Task master
0:30 "pure based on fighting skills" 6:38 "He can't pull those moves with the same level of power" I thought power wouldn't matter to this list, only skill...
Eduardo Maia but then you take away his powers and he can't even pull off the moves. So you either say he can do the moves but without the same power, or you say he can't even do the moves.
Eduardo Maia as in strength he can't perform to the same degree as someone like Daredevil or Iron fist Ect. He can just mimic the move
So you think a guy who can copy moves, but without the abilities as the original, is as good as the people he's copying? That's cute.
look at it in this logic a guy with a sledgehammer immitating a guy with sword... do you honestly expect the guy with the hammer to achieve the same results copying the guy withe sword?
You guys are missing the point. Is not about if he's as strong, or if he can get the same results. We are talking about martial arts. His power allow him to do the exact fighting style of anyone. So when you list all the kinds of acrobacies that DD can do or all the fighting styles shang chi knows, Its all the same since taskmaster can do all that stuff and more. Sure, when he learns some of caps moves, sure if one of the moves expect you to, I don't know, jump really high, if you don't you can't complete the move, so this move in particular is useless. But since we are talking about martial arts the are several other moves to learn, copy and adapt.
So, in the end, I don't think you can put someone in a better position then taskmaster for the only reason that person's stamina, strenght and so one are better. We are not measuring who would win, we are measuring who has the most skill.
I like how you kept out footage from Netflix's Iron Fist because that show had terrible fighting scenes.
Lol tru. Although, they should have used clips from the hallway scene in The Defenders tho. He fought pretty well in that moment.
Hopefully they give him a mask so a stunt double who is trained can do most of the fights. The actor barely had training and didn't get much practice in with the fights from what I hear.
Raul Mejia ...totally agree
Raul Mejia you say that as if Netflix Iron Fist is the real deal. Comic Iron Fist is way more skilled than that.
I wish that Frank Castle had at least gotten an honorable mention. He's highly trained in many forms of martial arts such as: Chin Na, Hwa Rang Do, Krav Maga, Muay Thai, Nash Ryu Jujutsu, Ninjutsu, Shorin-ryu Karate and Systema. He also has extensive bladed-weapon training. He's gone toe-to-toe with several of the people on this list and even beaten them on occasions. His immense tolerance to pain and being able to absorb physical punishment has allowed him to take on many fighters considered to be elite status in the MCU. His mastery over his own mind and will is such that he can shrug off mind-controlling attempts by super-beings. He's also extensively trained in military special operations and tactics.
I agree
Finally someone who doesn’t underate castle
You forgot that Captain America's brain also functions several times faster than a non-powered humans as pertains to combat and trajectories, letting him predict movements of opponents and objects alike, which is how he bounces his shield around so perfectly.
Cap would have been #1 for me.
The Emo Emu same for Wolverine. It literally says it on Marvels info site. Due to his enhanced senses and experience He can predict up to 7 moves ahead of his opponent for multiple scenarios and be prepared to react to each one before they even happen.
Wolverine and Cap both should have been way higher.
+SamBfied Like Deathstroke?
Caleb Mayfield basically
I am pretty sure that in the Marvel universe Captain America is the greatest hand to hand fighter...period. There isn't any but this guy, unless Cap is fighting someone way stronger or with other powers, Cap gets to win.
both Black Panther & Dare Devil should be higher. Wolverine, while great, too high.
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Pontiac127 Wolverines not too high, he best captain America and he beat Iron fist in a martial arts match.He's ranked too low if you ask me.
Black panther should defo be top 5
As much as I absolutely hate wolverine. After all the fights i've seen with him and even that beginning scene from the death of wolverine where there was an entire island of dead people who had tried to kill him, I have to agree that wolverine should be higher on the list
Daredevil is way too low bro...way too low
Trevor Burns frfr brah... Daredevil is a better fighter than Wolverine in my opinion.
Mark Johnson hell naw wolverine been fighting before captain America was alive
Miguel Maldonado because it’s comics, how many times has iron fist beaten daredevil?
Miguel Maldonado because this is based of comic better lay off your Netflix shows. Iron fist is only second to Shang chi in marvel
Trevor Burns Didnt Stark beat Daredevil even without his suit?
Deadpool be like “I can’t tell you who didn’t let me on this list but it rhymes with polverine.”
Oh wow someone else who knows what they're talking about 🤦🏻♂️
I want to know how Task master made it when Deadpool once beat him WITHOUT HIS HANDS 😂
I'm pretty surprised Deadpool didn't make the list too. I've seen him beat Shatterstar, Cable and Wolverine before, but Wolverine wasn't at his best at the time....
#1 should have been black panther. Him and iron fist are almost the same. But bc of the heart shape herb that makes panther super, he gets the win
K. Tucker Iron Fist could one shot BP tho if he got the chance to
Makhi Bridgett they've fought and ironfist was blood lusted and black panther still beat him. And black panther has tooken plenty of powerful punches
Makhi Bridgett remember Bp has vibranium in his suit so he can take a lot of damage. And if he starts to lose dont forget hes smarter than tony stark so he could intelligently figure out a way to win.
Marvel has official numbers for this stuff on their site. Back Panther is a 5 out of 7. Iron Fist is a 6 out of 7. That's a big difference.
There are a handful of characters rated as 7 out of 7 and he got very few of them. You'd think .... Ares ... god of war ... would make a list about the best fighters. He's rated as a 7 out of 7 (with a ton of strength and durability). Sabertooth ... he's a 7 out of 7 for fighting and also has enhanced strength and durability and speed. Mandarin ... he's got 7 for fighting AND intelligence AND energy.
Black Panther would be pretty low (3 durability, 3 energy, 5 fighting, 5 intelligence, 2 speed, 3 strength).
Omega Red (5 durability, 4 energy, 6 fighting, 4 intelligence, 3 speed, 5 strength)
Yeah?
Ares (6 durability, 1 energy, 7 fighting, 2 intelligence, 2 speed, 5 strength)
If you want to go purely by fighting ability ... that's just the one number to look at and you can ignore the rest. Characters like Hulk and Thor only have a 4 fighting ability, so fighting ability doesn't really include strength and other powers. Yeah? If Silver Surfer is 7 durability, 7 energy, 5 fighting, 4 intelligence, 7 speed, 6 strength ... then the fact that Silver Surfer can move faster than the speed of light and destroy a planet from outside of the solar system before you've had a chance to recognize that he's moving ... isn't really a factor in the fact that his fighting ability is only a 5 .. it's not like Shang Chi's fighting ability of 7 would make him a match for the Silver Surfer ... unless they were just punching and kicking at each other without durability and strength or speed.
Why do writers of comics get crazy and say the character knows 'every style of fighting on Earth'? I find that pretty stupid.
Danish only person I can possibly seeing to have studied and lasted damn near all forms is wolverine due to him bing so old
Plus, knowing more styles doesn't necessarily equal being a better fighter. Talent, skill and performance are what matters. Style is trivial.
Danish right? Shit like Batman and iron first. So dumb
Danish that’s like saying that comic writers get crazy and create a character that has a completely indestructible skeleton and an ability to completely heal from 99% of all severe wounds, which is pretty stupid.
It’s comic books and superheroes, guys, relax. Can you imagine how boring comic books would be if they were realistic? I’ll take stupid and fun over realistic and boring any day of the week.
Especially when they don't live there. But in defense, Chuck Norris.
Do an episode on Marvel Noir
Deebo Molina why do a top ten dc or Marvel's best strategies or technicians characters.. these characters rely on fighting and mind games at the same time..
Deebo Molina
That’s would be cool
Deebo Molina yes!
I agree!
My list.
10: Elektra
9: Karnak
8: Daredevil
7: Captain America
6: Task Master
5: Gamora
4: Wolverine
3: Black Panther
2: Iron Fist
1: Shang-Chi
Elektra is stronger than daredevil black panther lost kilmoger gamora sucks and wolverine is npt good at fighting is his healing factor
@@josefbosef5668 you basing yourself in comics or movies, sounds like movies, wolverine is a martial arts beast, his x men movies didn’t show this unfortunately, and daredevil is literally daredevil, not saying Elektra is weaker, but you shouldn’t be surprised if she was
What about Ares ... the god of war?
What about Mandarin ...
What about Sabertooth?
Marvel has real numbers for fighting ability for their characters at their site. Official stuff, not fan stuff.
Daredevil and Black Panther are both rated at 5 out of 7
Shang Chi, Taskmaster, and Wolverine are all rated as 7 out of 7. Just like Ares and Crossbones and Sabertooth and Mandarin.
I think your list would have to be .... EXTREMELY long for Daredevil or Black Panther to make it ... unless you were just talking about the MCU or something.
Honorable mentions:
Spider-Man
Winter Soldier
Night watcher
Blade
Yung Fleet73 Spider-Man? I wouldn’t say that spiderman is a martial artist by any means, he just mainly uses his spider sense and spider strength with his tech suit
@@Name11307 I can agree with that but it's clear he's not a martial artist,you don't have to be one to be a good fighter. And plus I'm going off the comics version not the MCU.
@@Name11307 spider man was trained by shang chi to use his spider sense and dial it up to 11 it was called way of the spider i think
Makes Sense.
@@Jeff-lc7lp That is correct. He created his own fighting style.
2 min silence for those who think captain America is better fighter than wolverine and black panther
I prefer Cap. He wasn't created to pander to those who don't read comics
@@GroinFaceGroin you must be a conservative asshole
Someguy McGee Black Panther HAS beaten cap before in the comics. Check out Christopher Priest’s run to confirm this bro.
@J Boogie GroinFace is literally the one who brought his politics into this and someguy was just pointing it out
Black Panther would kill Captain America. So would Wolverine. Cable has defeated Cap twice and Cable & Wolverine have fought to a draw.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Glad to finally see Shang-Chi getting some attention and love!! Great job, guys!!
Andrew Chen lemme guess hes first
Andrew Chen is he the black cat?
Seeing you talk about Shang-Chi, I really hope the MCU movie does him justice with how incredible he is as a fighter.
I also hope he trains peter since he did in the comics
What do you think of his portrayal in the movie now that it's been out a while?
No I did not the mouse company wants our favorite heroes to be losers..
Thor and Hercules have CENTURIES of combat experience. Spiderman also has a unique and very effective fighting style.
Ronald Malcolm both thor and hecules are brawlers though, spiderman is skilled but not in these peoples teirs though
Aries is master of all weapons and fighting style. Nightcrawler and Bullseye are amazing too.
Spiderman would be to strong for them Physically, and his spider senses alone are way more enhanced and complex and give him a very superb edge, which at the same time he relied on for long time until he actually trained.
@@Cthulhuguru Bullseye is good but he pretty consistently loses to Daredevil when Daredevil is able to close the distance. So since this list is about hand-to-hand combat, Daredevil qualifies and Bullseye doesn't.
However if the list were about ranged combat, Bullseye would be absolutely first place, with Kate Bishop second and Clint Barton third.
Marvel has official ratings for the characters at their site. Thor, Hercules and SpiderMan are all rated at 4 out of 7.
Very few power house characters have a fighting ability higher than 4. Thor, Hercules, Hulk, She-hulk, Luke Cage, Colossus, Red Hulk, Strong Guy ... all have a fighting ability of 4.
Wonder Man has a fighting ability of 5 (durability 6, energy 7, strength 6). Same fighting ability as Black Panther or Daredevil.
Guardian has a fighting ability of 5 (durability 6, fighting 5, energy 5, strength 5)
Omega Red has 5 durability 6 fighting and 5 strength. That's a very high fighting ability for significant strength.
Absorbing Man 6 durability, 6 fighting, 6 strength. This character seems like they should be virtually unstoppable.
Sabertooth is 4 durability, 7 fighting, 4 strength
Ares is rocking 6 durability, 7 fighting and 5 strength
Mandarin is 4 durability, 7 energy, 7 fighting, 7 intelligence, and 5 strength (doctor doom only has 6 energy and 6 intelligence)
Deadpool should be on the list since he has one of the most unpredictable fighting styles and when he gets serious in a fight can rival wolverine, captain America and confuse freaking taskmaster...also hes a master with kitanas and other weapons... please reply and tell me your thoughts
he confuses taskmaster due to the multiple voice in his head which make him unreadable in fighting to practically everyone
True i was waiting for him to be next and then he was just a freaking honorable mention -.-
Wait I thought that the list was about technique so why does having power only matter when it's task master
Raul Martinez
That's exactly what I was about to post. What a contradiction.
His power is his fighting skill
He uses hand to hand combat tho, so I guess it still counts
It's not really a power. Plus he retains all the skill he has copied.
Right. Wouldn't he get into one fight with Mr #1 and then instantly be equal to, if not better than him?
You got Steve higher than T'Challa but T'Challa whooped Steve's ass when they 1st met.
Black panther should have been higher!!!
Wade8 me too I was thinking at least top 5 but still a great list!
Agreed
Overrated
How? He out skills C.A by a long shot with the ability of recalling multiple years of fighting and having enhanced reflexes, strength and agility like Cap, except for B.P has way more knowledge than Cap. If anything Black Panther is underrated.
Jesus fuck, dont be some elitist ass like Mr. You, give a fucking reason to why you even think he's overrated. I would've guessed TH-cam stopped this stupid habit a long time ago.
Lol, Black Panther is top 3 easily.
Not near Wolverine, fall back
Zero Wolf pick up a comic. Wolverine has NEVER beaten black panther
@@Add183 This is easy, fans opinion don't matter or these silly fanboy channels neither, just go to www. MARVEL.FADOM.COM and see (Powers and Abilities) the creators at MARVEL know who really is the real deal. marvel.fandom.com/wiki/T%27Challa_(Earth-616) -AND- marvel.fandom.com/wiki/James_Howlett_(Earth-616) Problem solve.
Agreed
@@McCloud23892 those are both fandom pages made by guess who (the fans)
DAREDEVIL
Kaister Gaming yea my boi
Is he also ur favorite superhero?
Kaister Gaming lol
Yeah he is
Daredevil is my 3rd favorite Marvel superhero behind Spider-Man and Thor
Matthew Murdock sup
Iron Man: Hey Cap, everything special with you came out of a bottle.
Yeah, not really.lol He’s knocked out super soldiers and beat the piss out of Crossbones without the serum.
Honorable mention: Blade
Blade is a marvel character?! Damn. And Blade should definitely be in this list then. He would wipe the floor of most of these guys even though he lost to Dracula but to be fair, Blade didn't have his sword.
Blade listed Blade's fighting ability as 5 out of 7. He should mention all of the 7 out of 7 before talking about 5 out of 7, right? And, all of the 6 out of 7?
I've heard it's written that Taskmaster can learn to perform physical skills at a superhuman level by watching them at increased speed but this puts great strain on him.
#10 Electra: Travels to China, gets taught by an old white guy.
Just went and seen Shang-Chi,and I gotta say homeboy deserves that #1 spot! Wow what an awesome movie, it was so good my wife loved it!
Doctor Strange and Mantis should be on the list too, at least as honorable mentions. Strange is so powerful with his magic that people forget that he's a master martial artist that's stood toe to toe with both Black Panther and Mantis h2h. I believe he even fought Dormammu h2h and won too.
MistaWordz they sleep
Ty Senseì Word. Shit, Mantis don't even have superpowers and she put Thor to sleep with a nerve pinch.
Wolverine has said deadpool is a "better killer than him"
Key word
Is
Killer
That doesn't mean he is a better fighter
Nigga, not a top ten killer list
Manuel Casillas That's because despite being a full on savage, Wolverine actually has restraints.
Manuel Casillas doesn't mean better fighter
This is a is a list on hand to hand combat.
“This list isn’t about strength but fighting skill”
“He’s not strong enough to be top 3”
Iron man he can literally read his opponents fighting style than have a computer formulate style to beat it
Cap over BP ? How?
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Cap, Wolverine and Taskmaster are no match for Black Panther. This list isn't good.
.... what?
OnNOn shaqa cap is best cap is love cap is life
black panther will beat everybody on this list
Black panther def top 3. And Blade isn't on here... Disgraceful.
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Thought black panther would be top 3 at least... huh weird
360nohope bro me 2
Me too cause he has already beaten Cap, Wolverine and Ironfist, I think.
Black Paradox yeah that’s what I was thinking
Maybe it's his suit that gains him the victory more so than his skills, even though he indeed has mean skills. If Cap, Wolv, and Ironfist all had that same vibranium suit, you think Black Panther would still win? Or if they all (including Black Panther) had no suit at all, you still think he'd win?
Caps shield is his suit, Wolvies healing factor and Adamantium bones are his suit and Ironfist's chi is his suit. So yes I do think Black Panther can beat all of them in H2H combat only. After all he has mastered every fighting style on earth plus some extra ones as well.
Karnak is like my mum, able to find the fault in anything I do...
Thank god you put Shang Chi Master of Kung-Fu first! This guy needs more love!
It was kind of obvious
Lemme guess top 3
I hope he appears in Iron Fist Season 2
I was so happy when he was number 1
Hasn't Gorgon owned him at least twice?
He needs his own movie. You could have him fight his father. Shang Chii's father is pure evil and wants him to follow in his dad's footsteps.
I think cap is way too high on this list tbh. Why would someone who has learnt "a lot" of fighting styles be higher on a list than people who have learnt them "all"? Come on Eric. Biased much? Smh. Slots 1&2 should be Logan or tchalla interchangeably for having mastered all earthly fighting styles not to mention some extraterrestrial ones; slots 3&4 should be shangchi and iron fist, 5 taskmaster, 6 should be a tie between cap and daredevil.
Anyway, I do enjoy your videos.✌🏼
Black panther is above cap
@The middle ground you are a moron, wolverine and cap have fought 3 times and cap got owned every time. Stop spreading bs. And movies, wolverine doesn't even know how to fight in them so stop assuming bullshit as well
Daredevil and Black Panther should be in the Top 3. Panther has already beaten Cap in a hand to hand fight with pure skills and Daredevil has been stated to be more skilled than Cap, too. The only reason why in the comics they stalemated each other was because Cap has the advantage in Physical stats.
Khoi Le thank you
Black Panther has defeated Captain America far more times than Captain America has ever defeated Black Panther.
jah crispy
Cap beat Panther when Panther was weakened and even aknowledged that Panther was not as good as usual.
Your argument is invalid.
jah crispy
Actually Black Panther is better in every single category. The only thing that makes Captain America GREAT is his morals and his Super Soldier Serum, without it he's either skinny lil kid or a weak old man.
Black Panther was peak human befire taking the heart shaped herb. The herb just connects him to the Panther God Bast who then enhances him future. As far as skills go *ALL Royal Family members are trained since birth to be the Black Panther.* Captain America was trained when he was an adult and after he received the *Super Soldier Serum.*
Black Panther has *always had more skills* than Captain America. All Royal Family members have to train and study throughout the life in order to be not just a Warrior but a Ruler and leader as well. Which means they would've required far more skills then any US Soldier, or any other soldier, no matter how special they are.
T'Challa has also MASTERED EVERY SINGLE MARTIAL ART IN THE WORLD AND THEN SOME...Captain America at BEST may only know a dozen to 2 dozen different Martial Arts.
They're considered equal in what they represent...Captain America = the American people and Black Panther = Black People Everywhere. Outside of that, Black Panther has always been far more skilled than Captain America. Steve Rogers *NEEDS* the Super Soldier Serum, whereas T'Challa *DOES NOT NEED* the Heart Shaped Herb or the Vibranium Suit. He's worthy to have it but a Master without it. The Heart Shaped Herb and the Vibranium Suit just makes T'Challa that much more Better.
jah crispy
Those marvel handbooks change all the time and most of those are base on votes and not what yhe characters can actually do because that's contradicting. I've read different ones and I've seen them change all the time. If you read the official Bio from Marvel on what they can actually do, then that will really prove who has more. That Power Scale is like Power lvls in DBZ...they don't count for shit lol.
Thanks for sharing this, truly excellent content!
Black Panther and Daredevil are easily the most skilled fighters in all of Marvel.
Rick Scorsese um no, they aren't. Gamora knows techniques from all over the universe and Murdock is nothing compared to Marvel's more renowned martial artists such as Shang-Chi and even Elektra. In the most recent Defenders comic he let Danny Rand take Elektra instead of fighting her himself.
Micah Bou 🤔You do realize that who wins in a particular fight in a comic book is dependent on who the writer of the story is,correct?That being said,if i think Daredevil and Black Panther would whip Elektra or Iron Fist,it’s only a opinion,not facts.Only the writers can determine the outcome.
Rick Scorsese gamora with or without enhancements stomp black panther and Daredevil, like mantis
Rick Scorsese you stupid Black Panther nor Daredevil can defeat Iron Fist
Black widow was called the deadliest assassin on earth, bad list
Why is Black Panther number 7 when he has defeated both Wolverine and Captain America?
Boat had to wake up from unconsciousness
Keon Coleman because Cap has beaten him too and did you not hear the explanation for Wolverine?
This list is contradicting. Taskmaster is faulted for not having super strength when at the top of the episode he stated this list is based on skill not strength. I’m guessing he let his own biased opinions regulate the placement of the characters.
I'm surprised spider man isn't in here with his way of the spider fighting style
That's kinda crazy when u think about it.. Because it doesn't feel like a type of list Spiderman would be on
Spiderman would kick all they asses. He's Amazing.
Spider-Man's fighting prowess is closely linked with his powers; like his superhuman strength, speed and agility, complemented by his Spider sense. His only Martial art is" The Way of the Spider."
Jonny Hernandez One of the factors is that Spider-Man isn’t on this list is that SpiderMan holds back most of his punches if he wanted to he can kill a man with a single punch
@@Captgbob124 no it isnt spiderman Is strong but that doesn't mean he has technique theres a difference power has nothing to do with it.
Came back to this after the trailer dropped today.
Can you do smartest characters in DC than in Marvel
Omar Contreras Yh that’ll be good Reed Richards for marvel
Marvel actually has a list of them. Though they've been affirmative-actioning it to ridiculous degrees in the past five years. Moon Girl is supposed to be #1 now. Used to be Richards > Stark > Banner > Xavier, I think. Amadeus Cho kept bringing it up in the Incredible Herc run after WW Hulk since he was #7.
Robin Thrush Spider man is up there too
The original, yes. I just forget the order.
Namor?
I agree with this whole list except cap... you contradicted yourself putting cap that high
tyler pontiff my point exactly. He's been dropped by black panther multiple times.
It should have been black panther at # 3 and cap at # 4
I don't think cap should be 4,I believe taskmaster is far more skilled than cap or even black panther.
tyler pontiff well I would understand your point if he focused on caps strength . But instead he highlighted caps stamina and durability which help him very much with his fighting style
I agree, he should be on number 10 at best if fighting skills is the basis alone
At Shan-Chi you said that even though Iron Fist is stronger you put Shan-Chi above him because he’s a better fighter. But at Taskmaster you said he’s only at Number 4 because of the reason that he only can copy the fighting style but not the powers hence he wouldn’t be the strongest one on the list (but the best fighter). These 2 statements kinda fight each other.
Black Widow and Deadpool should be on the list.
I think black panther should be higher up. He knows martial arts that doesn't exist on Earth.
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Quentin Johnson that made no sense. If he knows it and he's on Earth how the fuck doesn't it "exist on Earth"?? Do you mean he knows fighting styles "not native" to Earth?
King Bagheera I don't mean to be a douche and I somewhat agree with you but how did you have to edit a bunch of clap emojis? 😂
How the fuck is Black Panther not a better fighter than Captain America?!
Nah!
Black Panther is better than Captain America, Black Panther trained since he was a boy, Captain America trained when he was already an adult, the Captain knows 50 types of martial arts while Black Panther knows all types of martial arts.
I think the list was made at random.
Henri Tero exactly. Cap is not as skilled as most people think. But Black Panther is more skilled than most people think.
Moon night should’ve made the list
Aubbyd Shafiq at least he in the honorable mention
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Wow I didn't know he was that impressive. What are his feats?
black widow should've been on the list
He's not that impressive really. He usually takes punches instead of blocking them so Taskmaster never copies his movements.
Great video, appreciate you sharing it!
IMPORTANT: LIKE FOR A HISTORY OF MOON KNIGHT:)
Taariq Mahmood He already did.
Taariq Mahmood, loved Moon Knight, have several original print issues. Shame that a character like his that was well written went away.
Black Panther and Daredevil should have tied for the #2 spot
Not even close. Marvel has rated fighting ability of their characters on their site. Both are rated 5 out of 7. Not rank. their rating out of 7 points is 5.
Lots of characters with a 6. A bunch with a 7. Anyone with a ranking of 5 would be below ....everyone with a higher ranking ... right?
So above either of them would be .... Omega Red, Moondragon, Mantis, Stick, Night Thrasher, Absorbing Man, US Agent, Ancient One, Psylocke, Gamora, Cable .... and on and on that list would go.
The Gorgon dude . He beat wolverine and Elektra at the same time while fighting off an army of shield soldiers.
Great show guys, thank you
Black Panther beats Captain America, so why isn't he higher than him.?
infamous611 well because in a fight more than fighting skill is a factor. Panther’s all vibranium suit is a big factor in most fights.
Jonah Edwards Yeah and that neutralizes Captain Americas add ons too.Panther beat Cap in hand to hand combat they're physical attributes are similar he's just the better fighter.
infamous611 thank you
also it depends on how many times on character beat another
X-Winter boi eat a snickers
Can we actually have a Marvel legacy and Generations episode
Says powers don’t matter
Also says task master can’t beat cap because he can’t copy his powers
Seems legit
I agree, but this seems more of a grey area as he is not using super powers such as super strength, speed, agility, etc.
Exactly! Same thing with Iron Fist. Why mention he can punch through a helicopter using chi.
Joseph Brown Haha yea man
I think what he is implying is that Task Master tends to rely just on his photographic memory a bit too much. When he does a move he expects to do more, but actually doesn't, it kinda leaves him dumbfounded for a second. That split second he finds himself wondering is brutal in a fight. In short, he's unable to improvise his own techniques and/or tactics sometimes.
+Robert T But he's only a good fighter because he copies everybody else's powers
Man, I thought I had a dope t-shirt collection, but watching your videos, I have found there is a new master! Great content...thx!