Yea Tillman is in a Jameis lead yolo offense with a bad Cleveland defense and is the clear top redzone target alpha X reciever getting 9+ targets a game that’s a solid wr2 in my book
This valuation of cedric tillmans got me rethinking this dude fr, absolutely nuts that you have a wr1 on a pass heavy offense getting double digit targets beneath dudes like waddle, dhop, and diontae johnson... realistically hes in the 20-25 range on this list
I’ve noticed he holds onto his first impression on some guys even after the evidence shows otherwise. He probably could have picked Tillman up but passed and is “subconsciously salty”.
Not surprised. Mason forms an opinion about a guy and has a very hard time letting it go. Courtland Sutton is a perfect example. He was ranked too low almost EVERY week last year and he doesn’t even pop on this list after being great this year
Two for me. But his presence was definitely missed. A lot of games were lost by less than three points which he definitely would have had over my WR2 I started in place for him
You gotta go by consistency. Zay has busted 3 times this season and has a lot of competition for his targets. You'd rather put in the guy you know will get you 15-20 9/10 times then someone who gets 30 every other game
I refuse to accept the Flowers doubting. He did have an inury in week 7 where they clearly kept him in as a bait for the defense. Excluding that game, he's crushing it.
@@warhawk22231 he's averaging 20+ per game over the past five weeks other than the game he got injured in and has turned in WR1 finishes in 5/8 healthy games; he's a mid-range WR2 at worst ROS, I can't name 15 guys I'd rather have
Not sure where he will finish or where he should be on the list, but Courtland Sutton has been good this year minus a few odd games and a goose. Back to back bangers. Looks to be Nix main target and Nix looks alright. He should be in consideration for a top 40 list
Why is Ceedee so high if Dak is going to miss time? Also, just because you traded Terry McLauren away in the flock league a few weeks ago doesn't mean you can ignore how good he's been performing and will continue to perform for the rest of the season...
Olave at 26 is a joke. The guy can't stay on the field. Not saying it's his fault, but how do you have him over guys who actually play football and make catches? 🤔
Need help boys!!! I was 5-2 now about to be 5-4 Have Olave Evans and Higgins all out with cmc on IR and Jordan mason on the bench. I have Brain Thomas jr, Hopkins, and wan’dale robinson as well. HERE’S THE QUESTION… Is it worth dropping Jordan mason for Cedric Tillman or Demarcus Robinson? And also who should I look to trade my injured WRs for. Thanks!! 10 person ppr league 7 bench spots with 1 ir
@@yabseramekonnen103 im not a fan of selling the #1 guy. Usain bolt for noah lyles and filler type trades. But good luck. I actially have both nico and jamarrr so hoping both pop off
What should I offer to get nico collins. I have these guys to give: flowers, Josh downs, Darnell Mooney, Deebo, Mike evans, tucker kraft and Chuba Hubbard
Even in games they are dominating Lamar is still looking to pass ball which is different from beginning of season. Zay should get more consistent volume and the addition of diontae could help him with teams loading up defensively for him. I think he needs to be in that Jayden reed Devonta smith range. The dud weeks hurt but he’s still fairly consistent
At this point I’d rather have Garret Wilson over Puka, maybe Kupp. He at least should be in A tier IMO. His production has gotten better with Adams, not worse like almost every fantasy expert claimed.
Got offered Waddle and Jonathon Brooks for Rico Dowdle? What do you guys think? Like the value but also not sure I’m ever gonna feel confident starting waddle or brooks
Mooney has 36 more yards, 46 more YAC, 2 less targets, 9 less receptions, 1 less TD… splitting hairs on points halfway through the season. I think we’ve got a WR 1A and WR1B situation in ATL. For the price? The WR I want on that offense is Darnell Mooney.
once we get jamo back for lions amon ra will be back to his usual self. hes still top 5 im not saying thats bad but i have him over hill and nico. texans are also run heavy and stroud ain’t playing nearly as efficient as goff. give me the talent, St Brown
Depends on ur team needs and if ur win now. Good rb class this year I doubt hes getting this role next year but he’ll be solid rest of the year if u need the rb depth
mason got a bad taste for wilson after first couple weeks and hasnt adjusted yet. wilson should definitely be higher than a lot of the flops ahead of him. hes stuck in past. literally has amari cooper on this list. this is not 2021 anymore.
I thought flowers was a flex play this week. Sat him. Won’t be doing that anymore. He is WR9 in my league. And diontae will probably help him is anything. He’s been very efficient.
week 7 for zay was a wash because he got injured. I don't expect boom games every week but he has been leading my team in points. that is until JSN went off yesterday! LFG! wish he was in an offense where he could just be the clear #1
I’m the #1 team rn and have an easy ish ros schedule. Would you trade Drake London for James cook and Mike Evan’s? The team that has them is the 2nd worst team.
Yes forsure, Mike will be top 5 once he’s back, only options will be him and Otton with Baker playing really well. James Cook is the lead back in one of the best offenses in the league. Sure Drake is solid but there are a lot of weapons on that team. It’s worth mentioning though that it comes down to WR depth, if London is your WR1 and your next best WR is a low-end WR2 like Josh downs or Calvin Ridley, you may wanna hold onto London
The guy can’t be right about everything. I think that for the most part mason is able to deliver valid reasons for players rest of season. No one is above criticism, and yes he’s not quick to pivot with players but I personally think that is probably better than being quick to ride the hype of a player.
You gotta start putting some respect on Zay Flowers name, Mason! Every week you say sell high he keeps producing! Thanks for the video but you’ve gotta raise him at this point
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Tillman has more points the last 3 weeks than waddle has for the entire season.
Yea Tillman is in a Jameis lead yolo offense with a bad Cleveland defense and is the clear top redzone target alpha X reciever getting 9+ targets a game that’s a solid wr2 in my book
Dont understand how he's not on this list.
@@matthewsalinas8879 bruh, imagine facing benching Tyreek. Done.
😊 Told yall not to be folded by the tilman hate!
Tillman should be higher in my opinion. At the least in E tier.
Rashee Rice was out in week 3 and has the same points as Waddle 🤣
This valuation of cedric tillmans got me rethinking this dude fr, absolutely nuts that you have a wr1 on a pass heavy offense getting double digit targets beneath dudes like waddle, dhop, and diontae johnson... realistically hes in the 20-25 range on this list
I’ve noticed he holds onto his first impression on some guys even after the evidence shows otherwise. He probably could have picked Tillman up but passed and is “subconsciously salty”.
Not surprised. Mason forms an opinion about a guy and has a very hard time letting it go. Courtland Sutton is a perfect example. He was ranked too low almost EVERY week last year and he doesn’t even pop on this list after being great this year
@@blobbyboy7478 Sutton has sucked this year
@ he’s WR 22
@@blobbyboy7478you misspelt WR 62*
Nico Collins coming back in all 3 of my leagues to bring home championships
Two for me. But his presence was definitely missed. A lot of games were lost by less than three points which he definitely would have had over my WR2 I started in place for him
Yayyyy, I can't wait! I really, really, really need Nico down the stretch!
Tired of the flowers doubt. He is really starting to be more consistent even when Henry has a big week.
Mason has not been high on Flowers since he was drafted. I think he’s just too stubborn to admit he was wrong
Zay is for sure above Reed, MHJ, Pickens, Cooper, and smith. Terry is the only one I think is on the same level because of his consistency
i agree. on what planet would someone put amari cooper over flowers this year? why are people so stubborn to admit things change and they were wrong.
You gotta go by consistency. Zay has busted 3 times this season and has a lot of competition for his targets. You'd rather put in the guy you know will get you 15-20 9/10 times then someone who gets 30 every other game
Zay is the 11th most targeted receiver in the nfl right now@Dxminicy0
Terry being ranked that low is crazy work
He had 2 catches..
He’s been consistently producing since week 3 🤡
@@jolamberwith 2 tds! Can’t just leave that out 😂
Tbf he said all the guys in the 15-22 range are about the same. I’d put him next to BTJ
Mason has never believed in Terry lmao
I refuse to accept the Flowers doubting. He did have an inury in week 7 where they clearly kept him in as a bait for the defense. Excluding that game, he's crushing it.
What about last night… 😂 factor in Diontae Johnson expanding his role
Thanks for sharing the 0-171 stat. You pretty much gave us a bet by telling us to bet the under, I’ll gladly take the over tonight now lol
Flower has got to be higher imo
100%
High end flex seems pretty reasonable for Flowers
@@warhawk22231 he's averaging 20+ per game over the past five weeks other than the game he got injured in and has turned in WR1 finishes in 5/8 healthy games; he's a mid-range WR2 at worst ROS, I can't name 15 guys I'd rather have
@@nicoellis1339with diontae coming in the targets are going to be more spread out
Nah flowers right where he belongs and where he was drafted. Right next to George Pickens🤣
Zay had an ankle injury week 7 against Tampa. He did return to the game but didn’t get any targets after.
Downs in E is nasty work
The Colts play the Bills, Jets, and Detroit next. I don't think Flacco lasts that 3 game stretch
Wilson in B is dumb ah too
@@horse-4598 Richardson damn sure ain’t beating them😂 They need a passer
Cedric Tillman is a league winner
Terry mclaurin continues to be the most underrated fantasy wr
How do you feel about Hopkins after last night?
The Dell disrespect is crazy
Went from 7-0 to 7-2 but it’s cool Nico is coming back this week 😈
Flock league and us as a whole really thought it was a fleece to trade off the WR 33 ROS for WR3. This year has been so weird
It isn't Pickens' fault he's had at least 5 touchdowns called back this year by Broderick Jones holding calls.
Not sure where he will finish or where he should be on the list, but Courtland Sutton has been good this year minus a few odd games and a goose. Back to back bangers. Looks to be Nix main target and Nix looks alright. He should be in consideration for a top 40 list
Mason hates courtland Sutton
tillman and terry got to be higher imo
Mason hates them he’s so biased honestly with every player
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So much disrespect on Flowers name
He hates being wrong. 😂😂😂
This is a personal tier list that's clearly flawed from a statistics perspective. He likes to belive his bias is correct
He’s still underrated. Zay is the truth, he just needs valuable targets
@@AV10U Yeah this is just an awful take on flowers for so many reasons imo. wayyyy to much disrespect at D tier. Its almost laughable
Where are all of you now after his dud on Thursday night 😂😂😂😂
Explain to me the difference between Jayden Reed and Zay Flowers? Zay Flowers is the clear 1 and actually producing, has the MVP as his QB as well
Claims Flowers has too many "dud weeks" then goes on to mention he's had four 100+ yard games in his last 5...
as a dynasty contender I'm thinking of trading my late #1 for Evans
Scarry terry and Zay flowers this low is diabolical
Started off 2-5 in my 12 man league , I’m currently up 4 with Worthy and Otton left to play to his Kareem Hunt . Bout to be 4-5 on the come up !
Hunts gonna have 2 tds so don’t get excited
@@jarod5655 otton and worthy gonna do they thing . Guarantee I still win tonight ✌🏾 .
@@jarod5655 update : Otton did his thing , worthy did not . Still 4-5 on the come up tho ✌🏾 .
@@CalculatedKrazy sorry for the lost brotha. Gotta get worthy out that lineup going forward. Otton a dawgg tho
@@jarod5655 worthy was only there because Pickens was on a bye week . I still got the dub even tho Worthy gave me -1 lmao . In Otton I trust ✌🏾 .
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should i trade lamb for nico? i have aj brown, btj, & malik nabers soon to be 5-4
Nico>lamb
I feel like diontae makes flowers more appealing, there are now 2 receivers that need to be covered but flowers is the better route runner
For a Flex spot - week 10, who would you start out of Ray-Ray McCloud or Rome Odunze?
I'm excited to see how Jauan Jennings is this week taking on the Aiyuk role in the offense.
What is my best option this week? Q.Johnson, S. Sheppard, D Rob, C. Austin or J. Tolbert?
Why do you have Hill at 4???
Worth doing a St. Brown for Collins deal this week?
Sutton outside the top 40?
Tough matchup for reek against the bills, and he exploded week 1… I’m not worried about him with Tua
I have hurts, we trading away smith for garret Wilson?
Why is Ceedee so high if Dak is going to miss time? Also, just because you traded Terry McLauren away in the flock league a few weeks ago doesn't mean you can ignore how good he's been performing and will continue to perform for the rest of the season...
Ceedee did well with the backup last time Dak was out
Bro is a generational Zay Flowers hater
Seems legit
@@Poprockz101Zay is WR #9 overall and he has him ranked at #25 💀
@@kyber10 zay isn’t that good
Olave at 26 is a joke. The guy can't stay on the field. Not saying it's his fault, but how do you have him over guys who actually play football and make catches? 🤔
Need help boys!!!
I was 5-2 now about to be 5-4
Have Olave Evans and Higgins all out with cmc on IR and Jordan mason on the bench. I have Brain Thomas jr, Hopkins, and wan’dale robinson as well.
HERE’S THE QUESTION…
Is it worth dropping Jordan mason for Cedric Tillman or Demarcus Robinson? And also who should I look to trade my injured WRs for. Thanks!! 10 person ppr league 7 bench spots with 1 ir
Basically do we think cmc will be back this week and make Jordan mason irrelevant????
The fascination with waddle is hilarious to me. I love facing teams with him because it’s an easy dub
Is this a good trade- you get Mike evans and Zay flowers and I get nico collins
The Zay Flowers take has me confused, but I get it, don't excite everyone while you swoop in before the trade deadline and buy low 👍🏽
Should I trade chase brown Chuba and Jameson for jacobs and jsn? Chase brown doesn’t even start as I have achane Kyren cmc/mason brooks. Wr3 is Sutton
Should I be selling Alvin Kamara? He's getting everything in that offense now, but how much longer?
Good trade? I traded St Brown, Pittman, and Pearsall for London, Mcconkey, and Hopkins.
Traded chase, tank and downs for nico and jt. Personally, I like my side.
if its chase brown and not jamarr you won. if its jamarr you lost
@@benjamintaylor8665He won regardless, JT>downs and tank and Nico and Jamar are equal
It's jamar chase. I'm taking my chance to sell him at 1.01 prices and now my rbs are mixon, jt jacobs and conner and wrs are nico, g wilson and btj
it's tank bigby and jamar*
@@yabseramekonnen103 im not a fan of selling the #1 guy. Usain bolt for noah lyles and filler type trades. But good luck. I actially have both nico and jamarrr so hoping both pop off
Help! Nico and Bucky for reed and dobbins? I’m already set to make playoffs.
What should I offer to get nico collins. I have these guys to give: flowers, Josh downs, Darnell Mooney, Deebo, Mike evans, tucker kraft and Chuba Hubbard
DJ Moore, Jake Ferguson or Xavier Legette in flex week 10?
Jakob meyers is the wr1, with no Adam’s he’s had like 17 points each week and tier F?
Did i win this trade monty and nabers for hill and mclaruin?
WR’s of Nico , Tae , Waddle , MHJ.
RB’s of Dowdle and Mosert . What should i do ?
Should I trade achane and dell for Nico and James cook
What are the thoughts on Jauan Jennings ROS with Aiyuk out?
What should I trade lamb for
Pickens underrated. 2 TDs called back last game
Even in games they are dominating Lamar is still looking to pass ball which is different from beginning of season. Zay should get more consistent volume and the addition of diontae could help him with teams loading up defensively for him. I think he needs to be in that Jayden reed Devonta smith range. The dud weeks hurt but he’s still fairly consistent
At this point I’d rather have Garret Wilson over Puka, maybe Kupp. He at least should be in A tier IMO. His production has gotten better with Adams, not worse like almost every fantasy expert claimed.
Should I trade Gibbs, Zay & Malik for Saquon & Ceedee?
Do I trade Justin Jefferson and Chase Brown for CMC and Tyreek Hill?
Am I wrong for being worried about AJ? 2 injuries this year. Last season towards end of the season he lost me in one league cuz he was so mid
currently 3-5 and need 35 from otton and mahomes. traded jefferson on saturday for nabers reed and kelce. good trade or nah
Got offered Waddle and Jonathon Brooks for Rico Dowdle? What do you guys think? Like the value but also not sure I’m ever gonna feel confident starting waddle or brooks
Traded Josh Jacob’s and worthy for reek and Pittman rate outta 10?
3
If you don’t need the running back help it’s a great trade
You are just making up reasons at this point to rank Flowers lower istg 😂
Mooney has 36 more yards, 46 more YAC, 2 less targets, 9 less receptions, 1 less TD… splitting hairs on points halfway through the season. I think we’ve got a WR 1A and WR1B situation in ATL. For the price? The WR I want on that offense is Darnell Mooney.
once we get jamo back for lions amon ra will be back to his usual self. hes still top 5 im not saying thats bad but i have him over hill and nico. texans are also run heavy and stroud ain’t playing nearly as efficient as goff. give me the talent, St Brown
Would u guys do chase for Nico?
Can you do this for TEs?
Chat, do I trade For Mike Evans or DK? I can give up Tae Adams (I’m done with him lol too many fails for my liking). TIA!
Trade pickens+monty for collins?
Trade BTJ and MHJ for puka? My other wrs are nico collins, drake london and josh downs
Amari over flowers what are you smocking todd
Amari has been hot garbage. They traded for him to be a decoy 🤦🏾♂️ D Hop balled out
In dynasty, is Dowdle a buy, sell, or hold?
Depends on ur team needs and if ur win now. Good rb class this year I doubt hes getting this role next year but he’ll be solid rest of the year if u need the rb depth
My 3 receivers made the top 12 👍 I hope everything doesn’t change 😂
Jefferson, Nabors, and Wilson.
Having the wide receiver 2 at 11 is a bit wild, my guy 😂 it's not week 3, bro it's week 10. We are closing in on the tail end of the season
mason got a bad taste for wilson after first couple weeks and hasnt adjusted yet. wilson should definitely be higher than a lot of the flops ahead of him. hes stuck in past. literally has amari cooper on this list. this is not 2021 anymore.
@benjamintaylor8665 you said it perfectly 😂 mason won 200k 3 years ago, tho lol
DJ Moore in the flex not valid ?
0-171 for predictions is crazy work
I thought flowers was a flex play this week. Sat him. Won’t be doing that anymore.
He is WR9 in my league. And diontae will probably help him is anything. He’s been very efficient.
All I want for Christmas is Mason to respect Zay Flowers 😭
I was looking at buying low on DJ Moore with his ridiculously easy schedule, but he really has underperformed this year
Putting garret behind cedee and Malik is crazy
Put some respect on Xavier Legette he just gon get better and better
week 7 for zay was a wash because he got injured. I don't expect boom games every week but he has been leading my team in points. that is until JSN went off yesterday! LFG! wish he was in an offense where he could just be the clear #1
I’m the #1 team rn and have an easy ish ros schedule. Would you trade Drake London for James cook and Mike Evan’s? The team that has them is the 2nd worst team.
Yes forsure, Mike will be top 5 once he’s back, only options will be him and Otton with Baker playing really well. James Cook is the lead back in one of the best offenses in the league. Sure Drake is solid but there are a lot of weapons on that team. It’s worth mentioning though that it comes down to WR depth, if London is your WR1 and your next best WR is a low-end WR2 like Josh downs or Calvin Ridley, you may wanna hold onto London
Yo should I trade aj brown and Jalen McMillan for tyreek
Id appreciate if anyone chimes in on this: Should I trade CD for JJettas? Got Nico coming back and St Brown at WR2
I’d rather have Mooney over a lot of the guys In the top 30. He was my last pick in the draft and hasn’t come out of my lineup since week 2 💯
My WR2 is between JSN, McConkey, Mooney, Downs, and Dell 🤣 - toss up every week.
Imo Mooney and Dell are must starts every week atp
How is Tyreek 7 spots above Garrett Wilson
The guy can’t be right about everything. I think that for the most part mason is able to deliver valid reasons for players rest of season. No one is above criticism, and yes he’s not quick to pivot with players but I personally think that is probably better than being quick to ride the hype of a player.
You gotta start putting some respect on Zay Flowers name, Mason! Every week you say sell high he keeps producing! Thanks for the video but you’ve gotta raise him at this point
Should I trade kupp for tyreek?
no sutton ?
I’d much rather have Terry over mhj ros
If you actually watched the video he says that
I have Puka, Tyreek, AJ Brown, and CeeDee. Am I really cooked?
Tillman should be over bums like waddle
Yea I would have Tillman over Marvin Harrison jr in the Devontae smith Jayden reed tier i would take Tillman over half the C tier players rn