Since the bots will only ever play against each other or have an occasional brief cameo appearance playing against community figures on a youtube creator's behalf I'd say you're save from slavery through machinery.
Hi, how may I go against these incredible bots? I know that Seer isn't publicly available (thanks to those who ruined that opportunity by putting Nexto in ranked.) so I can't use RLBot to play SeerV4/V6/V7 for myself. But I still really want to try versing it since Nexto has gotten predictable and hasn't kept up with the GCs and champs of today. As someone who has spent quite some time playing against Nexto in different ways, I would love to play against something significantly better than Nexto.
yes that is exactly my thought, and I believe pinches to be the final end game mechanic, hope some dev out there is giving his bot the "pinch only" training
I noticed it went for a dribble bump at ~9:50 but it sadly failed. But the demo play at the end of the video made up for it! Still has a lot to learn from Sledge 💥
Very impressed by how almost human some of it looks at times, I don't think I would easily recognise this as a bot if it was ever in my normal games... Happy to see you uploading again, Sledge!
Don't know how to feel? That 3rd game was so great that it both shows the skill of the bot AND you. Basically you need to play 99% accuracy to win.... or even get close to winning.
A flawless bot would be so terrifying in any gamemode, but it's most apparent in team rounds. It's still terrifying what this bot can do but it's far from even being close to perfection. The only reason bots won was because of their teamwork having almost no delay.
@rocket_sledge got beat by me in rocket league. He got mad and spammed my inbox that he had sex with my mom and 9 year old sister. I have proof. Don’t support this account. He’s disgusting
I always know that when Sledge has released a new video, it's good content. Bringing good content from a content dead game is awesome! A bot that Bumpo will love!
@rocket_sledge got beat by me in rocket league. He got mad and spammed my inbox that he had sex with my mom and 9 year old sister. I have proof. Don’t support him. It’s disgusting behavior for anyone and shouldn’t have a platform like this
wished psyonix/epic would update tge bots difficulty or even possibly add certain ranks to the bots in pm/offline matches from bronze to SuperSonicLegend. for 1s,2s & 3s. mostly for practicing certain parts in your game play, like kickoffs, 50s, & other things that some people struggle with in the lower ranks. (obviously wont be help with everything but make it easier for you to improve in 1s without being punished in your rank) hopefully this becomes a thing for the community for newer & older players.
I'd love to see a defence only 2s bot. Something that can defend literally any shot by any means necessary. Throw in some very mild reward for taking a shot on net every now and then and you have an unbeatable bot if it can flip reset and stall.
Because of a fact that these bots have unhuman reaction time, I think woud be interesting to learn them to demo. In 3v3 for example one of the bots could simply demo chase, that would be devastating and interesting to watch
I've probably mentioned it before but I would love to see pros go against this new version of the bot, which I'd assume the pros do beat since they're like 2-3 steps higher than osm and breezi, with breezi being the obvious better "pro"? player, I forget if either of them have made swiss stage, but for example I can easily see any 2 players from Deleted XD, or even 2 from a college team like BLVD beating this new version of the bot fairly easily considering the bot still has flaws in its gameplay which any mid-top tier pro can take advantage of, which makes sense why the two lowest pro players you could get didn't beat them BUT got close.
Not too sure since the bots have versed Joyo and Oski on Jonnyboi's channel and swept them, they also versed vatira and Atow and took them all the way to game 5, only losing by one goal
@@ethan.a9054 yea I agree. He can still improve alot on the bot. Zen would def beat this version in my opinion but hell, at this rate it will eventually surpase him
Not peak rocket league, excuse me? The potential is there, but it got scored on, and still shows weaknesses. It’s very far from being THE SuperSonic Legend, but that’s only because those 171 years are basically its baby stages. 2 years. 2 more human years and we will have broken the engine and the bots will be rampant and I will be the first to stick my head into the realm of sacrificing my firstborn to revert these events. Maybe if I’m lucky my first child will be named Thad, it’s just such a bad name, but regardless the war must come to an end. It will be 78 days from losing Thad that the AI’s hive mind will collapse in on itself giving birth to the new Beyonce, made in Her image to bring an era of peace. The backstory is Beyonce had a feud with Elon musk because her music wasn’t hers anymore, you see Elon had integrated both Spotify and ChatGPT into his Starlink system, and they’re constantly broadcasting Beyonce to every radio station on earth. At first that seems like such an altruistic move, but it wasn’t actually Beyonce, none of the songs were made by a living being. So Beyonce marched up to Elon musk and he straight up capped her ass because her horse is made of glass and he’s a huge wuss when it comes to glass sculptures, let alone living ones.
I wonder if pros will eventually use these bots to train, training against the perfect rocket league player could teach even pro players a ton about the game. Good video as always Sledge! 🔥
Always Impressed with the amount of bots that *you* create for our entertainment. *You* should be getting paid by psyonix. Jk. Amazing craftsmanship as always Neville, and our future machine overlords, please be kind to us.
I have a really strange idea lol If the bots practice and learn with reward based generations what if the surviving bots have a chance to pass on some of their car design as well? Like as if the car design started random and was genetic, and as the generations go and get better the cars also get more "refined" I think that could be pretty fun and definitely interesting. "This car design WILL WIN you games in Rocket League!"
That is a weird one. I imagine it would be due to the surfaces meeting at the corner and causing two hits in succession. Also since we were hosting this on Ultrawides Computer in EU and I was recording from Western Canada there could be a quick client-side prediction correction that made the ball move faster for me than it actually did. My ping was close to 200 I think.
I would love to play this bot. I have been 2v2ing and 3v3ing Nexto and it feels really easy. Especially now that I've finally reached GC1 and got it's rewards this season. I just joined the Discord server as I'm writing this comment, so maybe I can verse Seer V7 with someone who is Champ or Grand Champ. I'm confident I can beat it! (no im not, lol)
Wait am I an AI I learnt flip resets when I hit champ 1 like 1 year ago and I can I know how to defend them now in champ 3 and I could when I was champ 1 idk how it work I just understood when someone had the flip or didn’t so I knew when to challenge
Hey Donald! Unfortunately there probably isn't many people that will click to hear it. RL community has changed a lot over the last couple years which is why my channel is no longer sustainable anymore and the story-based content isn't worth the efforts. Hope all is well with you.
I'm 100% sure he was not. No one has Seer except its creator. Prob nexto hack that still is around (assuming it's not just an under ranked champ+ of course)
@@Shabso101 It was ranked and the guy was freestyling and scoring the most insane aerial shots that I've never seen anyone in my rank do .Now that I think about it he must have been a smurf account lol
It is amazing how good these bots got.Can I play against them in rl bot or something?It would be great for players to experience ssl gameplay for free and try it out in non ranked.
Unfortunately Bogxs you would be one of the few left in the community that want that. I'd love to keep doing it but it's not worth the effort or time anymore. I appreciate your support and am sorry to let you down. If you're interested in weird and interesting history told in a similar way you could check out my new non-gaming channel here: www.youtube.com/@That-Happened Let me know what you think!
@@Rocket_Sledge oh wow so this channel is over, very sad to see a lot of the rocket league TH-cam community dying off in the past year or so. I wish you luck sledge in whatever you do next
@Bogxs thank you. So far my new history channel has been the most rewarding work I've ever done. It's so freeing not to be constrained by the limits of this game. I still do expect there may be a few RL videos on this channel from time to time though.
It's actually interesting how it has more than a million hours and I still wouldn't consider it that good. Like obviously it's way better than me and probably 99% of the rocket league community, but I find it interesting how pros with 15k hours could still beat it relatively easily.
I think that's because it can only learn from its predecessors. Pro's can all learn from each other to increase the skill ceiling. Like they can see a pro pull off a new mechanic and then go and practice just that for hours. These bots on the other hand cannot. I do believe however that in the future they will become better than pro players if they are continually developed.
i think it would be interresting to see seer as a team mate with a real player because these 2 bots are perfecctly adjustet du each other it would be interresting how it would addapet to a real player
The Age of Men is over. The Time of Seer has come.
Since the bots will only ever play against each other or have an occasional brief cameo appearance playing against community figures on a youtube creator's behalf I'd say you're save from slavery through machinery.
Hi, how may I go against these incredible bots? I know that Seer isn't publicly available (thanks to those who ruined that opportunity by putting Nexto in ranked.) so I can't use RLBot to play SeerV4/V6/V7 for myself. But I still really want to try versing it since Nexto has gotten predictable and hasn't kept up with the GCs and champs of today.
As someone who has spent quite some time playing against Nexto in different ways, I would love to play against something significantly better than Nexto.
All praise the mighty seer! (Reference for only gods to understand)
Calling someone a bot in Rocket League might not even be an insult anymore 💀
First but really it ain’t a flex, just that you’re underrated
LOL
Just call them rookie bot
Thanks for the show guys, this was awesome 🤘🤘
It's turning into chess
Imagine if it learns pintches. They'd be able to perfectly send the ball into your net, anywhere on the field. You'd never be safe.
Yes, that is so true
yes that is exactly my thought, and I believe pinches to be the final end game mechanic, hope some dev out there is giving his bot the "pinch only" training
Or it masters perfect skims on any ball… bots would become unbeatable
If it learns pinches it will learn team pinches, and then it will be do ariel team pinches, and the world will never be the same.
So many pinches, ceiling, ground, walls, posts, crossbar, teammate, and opponents.
When my opponents call me a bot, this is what I imagine theyre talking about
I noticed it went for a dribble bump at ~9:50 but it sadly failed. But the demo play at the end of the video made up for it! Still has a lot to learn from Sledge 💥
Very impressed by how almost human some of it looks at times, I don't think I would easily recognise this as a bot if it was ever in my normal games...
Happy to see you uploading again, Sledge!
Calling someone a bot in a multiplayer game: 🤣🤣🤣
Calling someone a bot in Rocket League: 💀💀💀
Fr
Rocket League is a multiplayer game 😐
??? Bots are way better in most games. RL is one of the few games where bots aren't fully superhuman yet.
@@rikdegraaff891 which games? I would like to see more videos of amazing bots
@@PlaidZoomersearch for "ai learns to play" and you will find a bunch of videos that are fun to watch imo
Nice work Ultrawide. Very impressive. Some great mechanics there.
thanks
would love to see more videos of pros vs seer!
No way, he actually uploaded
The captions said “these are strong butts” at 14:23
Would love to see this thing go against some of the top rated people on the 2v2 leaderboard!
JohnnyBoi_i's latest video
Yeah vs Vatira and Atow
Don't know how to feel? That 3rd game was so great that it both shows the skill of the bot AND you. Basically you need to play 99% accuracy to win.... or even get close to winning.
A flawless bot would be so terrifying in any gamemode, but it's most apparent in team rounds. It's still terrifying what this bot can do but it's far from even being close to perfection. The only reason bots won was because of their teamwork having almost no delay.
Loving the content, keep it up this seer bot is insane btw, it's actually crazy LOL
@rocket_sledge got beat by me in rocket league. He got mad and spammed my inbox that he had sex with my mom and 9 year old sister. I have proof. Don’t support this account. He’s disgusting
Impressive work, congrats this is huge
I always know that when Sledge has released a new video, it's good content. Bringing good content from a content dead game is awesome! A bot that Bumpo will love!
@rocket_sledge got beat by me in rocket league. He got mad and spammed my inbox that he had sex with my mom and 9 year old sister. I have proof. Don’t support him. It’s disgusting behavior for anyone and shouldn’t have a platform like this
wished psyonix/epic would update tge bots difficulty or even possibly add certain ranks to the bots in pm/offline matches from bronze to SuperSonicLegend. for 1s,2s & 3s. mostly for practicing certain parts in your game play, like kickoffs, 50s, & other things that some people struggle with in the lower ranks. (obviously wont be help with everything but make it easier for you to improve in 1s without being punished in your rank) hopefully this becomes a thing for the community for newer & older players.
4:37 so close to greatness :')
rocket sledge... a name i havent heard in a while
I am waiting patiently for rocket league to turn into chess where bots are significantly better than even the best in the world
It feels soo good to be German whenever someone says „it’s a Brazil“ or some like that😂 love it
I'd love to see a defence only 2s bot. Something that can defend literally any shot by any means necessary. Throw in some very mild reward for taking a shot on net every now and then and you have an unbeatable bot if it can flip reset and stall.
Because of a fact that these bots have unhuman reaction time, I think woud be interesting to learn them to demo. In 3v3 for example one of the bots could simply demo chase, that would be devastating and interesting to watch
I've probably mentioned it before but I would love to see pros go against this new version of the bot, which I'd assume the pros do beat since they're like 2-3 steps higher than osm and breezi, with breezi being the obvious better "pro"? player, I forget if either of them have made swiss stage, but for example I can easily see any 2 players from Deleted XD, or even 2 from a college team like BLVD beating this new version of the bot fairly easily considering the bot still has flaws in its gameplay which any mid-top tier pro can take advantage of, which makes sense why the two lowest pro players you could get didn't beat them BUT got close.
Breezi is a good pro and osm is trying to get into the scene
I’m not sure they were going full 100% against the bots though so I’d imagine they could potentially beat them if they were
Not too sure since the bots have versed Joyo and Oski on Jonnyboi's channel and swept them, they also versed vatira and Atow and took them all the way to game 5, only losing by one goal
You should do a video of the bot with a human teammate to see if you really need both bots or if they are good with a human teammate as well
For anyone wondering...
1.5million hours equates to 171 years, and 84 days.
Safe to say this bot is actually what pinacle rocket league is
na not yet it can still get way better. I imagine that the top pro's would still beat it, players like zen for example
@@ethan.a9054 yea I agree. He can still improve alot on the bot. Zen would def beat this version in my opinion but hell, at this rate it will eventually surpase him
Not peak rocket league, excuse me? The potential is there, but it got scored on, and still shows weaknesses. It’s very far from being THE SuperSonic Legend, but that’s only because those 171 years are basically its baby stages.
2 years. 2 more human years and we will have broken the engine and the bots will be rampant and I will be the first to stick my head into the realm of sacrificing my firstborn to revert these events. Maybe if I’m lucky my first child will be named Thad, it’s just such a bad name, but regardless the war must come to an end. It will be 78 days from losing Thad that the AI’s hive mind will collapse in on itself giving birth to the new Beyonce, made in Her image to bring an era of peace. The backstory is Beyonce had a feud with Elon musk because her music wasn’t hers anymore, you see Elon had integrated both Spotify and ChatGPT into his Starlink system, and they’re constantly broadcasting Beyonce to every radio station on earth. At first that seems like such an altruistic move, but it wasn’t actually Beyonce, none of the songs were made by a living being. So Beyonce marched up to Elon musk and he straight up capped her ass because her horse is made of glass and he’s a huge wuss when it comes to glass sculptures, let alone living ones.
@@Hboutful are you drunk sir?
@@dominickdavis2265lil bros drunk on that rocket league exhaust juice 🤥
I wonder if pros will eventually use these bots to train, training against the perfect rocket league player could teach even pro players a ton about the game. Good video as always Sledge! 🔥
Always Impressed with the amount of bots that *you* create for our entertainment. *You* should be getting paid by psyonix.
Jk. Amazing craftsmanship as always Neville, and our future machine overlords, please be kind to us.
I have a really strange idea lol
If the bots practice and learn with reward based generations what if the surviving bots have a chance to pass on some of their car design as well? Like as if the car design started random and was genetic, and as the generations go and get better the cars also get more "refined" I think that could be pretty fun and definitely interesting. "This car design WILL WIN you games in Rocket League!"
New Sledge Video!!!
Damn Sledge such a banger definitely hasn't only been out for 2 minutes 👍
13:42 No one it talking about this bounce.. why did it bounce so high? It looked like it gained velocity from the angle of the wall.. is it a bug?
That is a weird one. I imagine it would be due to the surfaces meeting at the corner and causing two hits in succession. Also since we were hosting this on Ultrawides Computer in EU and I was recording from Western Canada there could be a quick client-side prediction correction that made the ball move faster for me than it actually did. My ping was close to 200 I think.
What the fuck
@@Rocket_Sledge Oh ok, gotcha. Thanks for the reply.
No one gonna talk about the 7-1 bot Brazil and that it’s bot v7.1 😂😭
lol
I was there Gandalf 3000 years ago, when calling somebody a "bot" used to be offensive
It like the ai is just 1 ai as they are working so simultaneously together predicting for each other it just like 1 mind
Should do a 2v2 against champs vs bots. To see if the pros are just overthink 😂
now you need to sign up seer for the next open qualifier.
Awesome, now bots are not only better then me in general, but also mechanic wise. Im C1 and can only air dribble
I’m happy Sledge is still making RL content
thank you for watching for the last 4 years!
@@Rocket_Sledge Thank you!
I would love to play this bot. I have been 2v2ing and 3v3ing Nexto and it feels really easy. Especially now that I've finally reached GC1 and got it's rewards this season.
I just joined the Discord server as I'm writing this comment, so maybe I can verse Seer V7 with someone who is Champ or Grand Champ.
I'm confident I can beat it! (no im not, lol)
Wait am I an AI
I learnt flip resets when I hit champ 1 like 1 year ago and I can I know how to defend them now in champ 3 and I could when I was champ 1 idk how it work I just understood when someone had the flip or didn’t so I knew when to challenge
Hey Mr Sledge! :)
I am ready to tell my story.
Love PdB :)
Hey Donald! Unfortunately there probably isn't many people that will click to hear it. RL community has changed a lot over the last couple years which is why my channel is no longer sustainable anymore and the story-based content isn't worth the efforts.
Hope all is well with you.
I don't want to go against seer anymore :(
Was having a really bad day then I saw that sledge uploaded and it got even worse :/
LOL
@@Rocket_Sledgeur the best
someone won me 15-0 in my plat ranking placement .I'm 100% sure he was using this seer bot
I'm 100% sure he was not. No one has Seer except its creator. Prob nexto hack that still is around (assuming it's not just an under ranked champ+ of course)
A champ player can 15-0 a plat😂
@@Shabso101 It was ranked and the guy was freestyling and scoring the most insane aerial shots that I've never seen anyone in my rank do .Now that I think about it he must have been a smurf account lol
Welp guess it's time to hang up the ol car call.
I feel like coaches could use game play with these high level bots to help show lower ranks how to get better at positioning as a concept.
Me thinking this was about stallion when I clicked. Seeing someone talk about the SSL level bot learning to freestyle
Imagine if Seer just learns wall pinches and can just net em every time
I think having these bots in a training mode would be great. Would help improve for everyone
I would love to see through the lens of the ai, how it visualizes the balls positioning and its pathing etc
It doesn't have eyes
@@hideralduhami no, but it has code that will tell it all the game info, which can be overlayed with the physical view of the ai in game
@@ninjardx you said lens
So the bots know the enemy team boost? If no thays a disadvantage compared to humans who can and do know the general boost of the other team.
It's almost eerie how human those bots appear
The bots have about 171 years of practice behind their back 💀💀💀
their*
9 years plus the hours every player that's ever played the game
are the replays on ballchasing or some other site so we can watch them?
I have a setup with those bots' exact features but the nomad 😂
this bot has a knowladge of 171 years loool
V8 with surface pinches is gonna be crazy,
Very impressive bot. Would love to see some pros vs it.
Anyone know what decal Breezi's using?
I wanna see more pro level player series against Seer
what's breezis decal and color? this slaps
Does one bot control both cars or does each car get controlled by an independent instance of the bot?
why where they named breezi in #12:22
It's a glitch where the bots take on the names of the players in the game. Has happened in previous videos too.
Just need to get the AI to learn how to shit talk in the chat now
It is amazing how good these bots got.Can I play against them in rl bot or something?It would be great for players to experience ssl gameplay for free and try it out in non ranked.
this might actually be good for training reads and challenges
When is 8 coming
Sledge where have you gone? I need my information rocket league videos 😂
Unfortunately Bogxs you would be one of the few left in the community that want that. I'd love to keep doing it but it's not worth the effort or time anymore. I appreciate your support and am sorry to let you down. If you're interested in weird and interesting history told in a similar way you could check out my new non-gaming channel here: www.youtube.com/@That-Happened Let me know what you think!
@@Rocket_Sledge oh wow so this channel is over, very sad to see a lot of the rocket league TH-cam community dying off in the past year or so. I wish you luck sledge in whatever you do next
@Bogxs thank you. So far my new history channel has been the most rewarding work I've ever done. It's so freeing not to be constrained by the limits of this game.
I still do expect there may be a few RL videos on this channel from time to time though.
@@Rocket_Sledge great to hear you are enjoying it, will be following you on both channels
@@Rocket_Sledgethis is so sad
Great video idea i think that you should see how high mmr they can get in 2v2 competitive
I can't even powerslide properly, AI is flip reseting.
Please learn them to use wave/ wall dashes. It will probably overuse it and it becomes a big meta lol
where do I get access to play any of the seer bots?
It's actually interesting how it has more than a million hours and I still wouldn't consider it that good. Like obviously it's way better than me and probably 99% of the rocket league community, but I find it interesting how pros with 15k hours could still beat it relatively easily.
I think that's because it can only learn from its predecessors. Pro's can all learn from each other to increase the skill ceiling. Like they can see a pro pull off a new mechanic and then go and practice just that for hours. These bots on the other hand cannot. I do believe however that in the future they will become better than pro players if they are continually developed.
What is osm decal
Need to get some pros from top teams to take Seer v7 down.
Might want to keep an eye out for Johnny_boi's next stream! ;)
Edit, nevermind it already happened. Watch the VOD I guess.
I just came from JohnnyBoi_i's stream. These bots are on par with the top 10 pros in 2s.
For seer v8 they should program bumps and demos
Crazy how players can make a bot to this level yet the devs can only put All-Star (Gold 1?) bots into offline modes
Bro I don't wanna get spanished by bots💀
I want more mechs that they can do
i think it would be interresting to see seer as a team mate with a real player because these 2 bots are perfecctly adjustet du each other it would be interresting how it would addapet to a real player
where do i get this
How do you get it to 1v1 it?
how can i play with play with this bot?
Is there a way to put this bot in Bakkesmod??
damn would love to use these bots as a training tool in a private match 😭
In 1.5 million hours even i could learn to play this good
Need Leth and Rapid to face these!!
what is the name that decal osm wear?
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Its contraband
You have to get musty to play against these Ais 🙏
Musty is barely a gc3, he would get dusted
We wanna see them up against actual pros 💀
if the bot will be able to air roll and flick it will be insane
Nobody talking about 1.5 million hours is 170+ years. How does that work? 6:15
They play multiple instances at high speeds at the same time
9 years plus the hours of every player that has footage on public saved replays like ballchasing
You should make the bots ovey rule 1s and the other rules. That would be funny.
Lets go, more from sledge
Back in the day I thought pulse osm was 1 person.
How can the bot have 1.5 million hours when that much time hasnt elapsed since creating it?
He should make it learn a kuxir since it will always do it perfectly
insane