Stihl MS 500i - First Review Chainsaw w/o Carburetor
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ย. 2018
- Read more in Swedish here: skogsforum.se/viewtopic.php?f... and in English here: nordicwoodjournal.com/editori...
Check out the first review of the 2019 hot-saw, Stihl MS 500i. First ever serial produced chainsaw with fuel injection instead of a carburetor! New record in power-to-weight ratio and awesome acceleration.
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Greetings from Florida. All other constructive comments aside, thank you for taking the time to review the saw.
Here in Southeast Alaska on the Tongas National Forest, I have been running my Stihl 440 and 460 for years, for logging, chainsaw milling, and with my Lewis winch. As I have grown older and my family has grown I run my saws less frequently. Over time the only problems I have had with my Stihls were carburetor related (2 rebuilds each), so I am EXCITED about fuel injection. My 460 is 15 years old so I think I can justify the 500i when it comes out. Thanks for a good video!
Net Wright i worked in the log sorting yard on Pow running saw for a few years.
The 460 is that old? What? Still running an 044 mag!
you DO realize Stihls don't "make" the carburetors right? It's no different than any other saw with carbs, lol.
I have 044 32 years old runs like new
Thank you for putting it up in English, I really appreciate it and I'm sure many others do as well.
Easy to understand, nothing lost in any form of translation... You made an excellent video!
exept hes spreading missinformation with cubic inch and shit
Thank you for English, you speak much better English than I can Swedish. Tack. Awesome saw by the looks of it. Regards from Scotland.
Thanks for the video, can’t wait to get my hands on a 500!
Awesome saw. No choke! Starts every time! I'm sold.
Love the drone footage at the beginning!
Excellent review in english. Thank's and keep up the good work.
Awesome video can't wait for more reviews!
I love it! Thanks for the great video. Can't wait to see one in person.
That's for the review!! It will be my new saw when available in Canada
thank you for your english video! From Pacific Northwest USA
Thanks for doing video in English! Can't wait too try MS 500i
Coming from a traditional dolmar guy it looks like a really good tool. Only two screws to service, very steady idle and clean full throttle pulls.
As for the stupid comments about the air filter he specifically notes he is opening it after 20 refills. There is absolutely no saw in the market that doesn't require cleaning after 10 refills. Let alone 20 that he did.
I like huskee but this maybe a game changer
A Jonsered would never look like that saw did. Not even after a year!
Awesome, This is why Stihl is number one hand held equipment for the past 10 years! Just the facts by numbers. No emotion. Game changer for sure.
Husqvarna is number one
Erik Andersson Wrong. Get the facts by the numbers!
Love watching that guy on the saw!
Very good chainsaw, as always by stihl. Thank you very much for your presentation.
Phenomenal performance, thanks for this video 👍
Thanks from the great white north of Canada! Would be interesting to see how this saw runs in the cold. "Winter is coming". Definitely a game changer.
Thanks for a great review
Trevlig och informativ film om denna såg. Tackar och ni gör ett bra jobb
Would I like it...yes, would it be 100x overkill for homeowner in a suburban setting like me, yes. But I still want it.
Thanks for the info. Also the English version is very nice.
Thanks for English 🇬🇧🇬🇧👍👍😎
Excited to see a fuel injected chainsaw, but I'll wait until they've been in the field a couple years before considering one. First model years in anything tend to have more issues, and fewer refinements because manufacturers haven't had enough data returned from end users, and servicing dealers to see what works, and what needs tweaking, or what would benefit from being added or removed.
have you gotten it now?
Still have not bought one, mainly because my old Stihls have been pretty reliable. If with the occasional repairs I have to do, I cannot bring myself to spend the money on a new saw. One of my small saws, the MS170 is getting a little tired, but since its mostly my limbing and brush saw, maybe an battery powered saw will replace that one.@@karm00n29
Awesome footage
Great review, love that acceleration-fabulous operator, my only scratch my head moment, is the amount of saw dust under those covers and air-filter. been problem for many Stihl chainsaws......
Amazing video, thanks.
Awesome review!
Great review and thanks for the English
some may not care for innovation, but this seems to only make sense. I am excited to see these things in action
Looks like I have to add one to my xmas list!! Thanks for the good info!!👍👍
That's one thing I won't put on my Christmas wish list
Perfect job thanks for the video's 🌳🌲👍
I WOOD love to have one of those
Thanks for the English.
Thank you. Very useful video
Great review. TY
Thanks for English!
Also this is huge news for gas powered 1/5 scale radio control cars. Fuel injection for rc will be incredibly satisfying.
Thanks for the English my friend, looks like a nice saw, I'm more of a Dolmar guy, but I'd give this a try, esp. with the FI!
Thank you! Nice to see what's going to be available soon.
Great video, nice saw
Those are impressive stats!
Want it so bad! Need it, love it.
Awesome!
Looks Impressive i need one
Appreciate the English man!
Thanks for the English ! I double win on this video , part of Swedish and German decent . Looks like a real nice saw . Love both my Stihl saws , but injected would be an improvement .
XTREME nice video!
I like the awesome orange rubber logging boots. Very cool.
Awesome Thank you, Cheers.
I am way too excited about this saw! From a Stihl Platinum Certified tech... This is absolutely a #gamechanger! Cheers for the first look!
You're a stihl plat tech, so you can get me one by sunday right? =) Shit, I'm obsessive, just got the 880 yesterday, never even seen wood, yet I've already forgotten about it.
If I could both of us would have one coming! Love the 880 too! Beast of a saw! Never personally had one in the cut but worked on a few and sold some too. Im sure you will love it!
Please more Videos like this👍🏻
Thanks, comments like yours keeps us going!
I would loved to have seen it compared to a MS462 or MS461 rather than a much smaller MS362.
Would like that too. Hopefully it's coming. It can be risky doing e.g cookie-cutting comparisons only, I believe you have to go deeper than that. Moreover, saws in such comparison needs to have been run for the same amount of time. A new saw, like this above, tends to perform better and better with each refuel. What do you think would be a minimum om running hours before a fair test could be done?
I have a MS461 that I use for milling lumber and am looking to upgrade to a bigger saw possibly a MS661 or MS880, but hearing about this saws performance and weight I'm interested in how this saw would compare as a potential replacement for that role in comparison to the MS461. As far as run time before comparing them I would think after running 10 tanks of fuel each would be a reasonable break in period for each and then do the comparison of the two saws.
Although it looks like a great falling saw, I wouldn't use the 500i for slabbing. I would stick with a 660 or larger.
@@Chris-Fennimore I agree and if I wanted my saw to last I would mix my oil 30:1 and back the top rpm down some to help it survive. I have seen first hand that a MS661 will not survive milling and it won't run on a mix other than 50:1. I bet this saw is the same way. I think these saws have there place and hopefully they will be a better setup than the electronic carburetors. Whatever you do, if you do purchase one of these or an electronic carburetor saw, don't tell your dealer you are using it for slabbing because I have seen them get out of warrantying a saw.
@@johnmorris7960, I wouldnt go messing with mix ratio unless you are running a type that reccomends it. Also, you cannot adjust top rpm on the electronic saws, it is computer controlled. Also, all Stihl chainsaws are designed to be used at full throttle under load, if you mess with throttle settings or mix ratio you can wind up with sludge or coke in the cylinder. Always use mix oil designed for air cooled 2-stroke engines.
I was rooting for Husqvarna to be the first to introduce fuel injection. But this saw looks amazing. Congrats to Stihl.
@Loner Wolf yes it’s overpriced, has sloppy motor mounts, and sure as hell doesn’t feel like 6.7HP, but it’s definitely rebuildable. Anyway, my bone-stock 572 doesn’t struggle to keep up with the 500is and is less fatiguing to use with the better mounts.
That bar is cute
Very good review 👍👍👍
Thank you!
I have 440 magnum and runs grate and super fast 👍😁it's all about how you take care your saw
Thanks for the English speaking review.
Yhumbs up just for that 😎😎😎
Thumbs up for English, oh and I like the funky beat music too! Saw'm All baby!
I think it will be very interesting to find out how these test out in 1000's of hour of real world use. Also somebody is going to come along and want to mess with the electronics and set up to see if they can tweak even more out of it. It sounded great from here and was eager to cut wood. I think a price point comparison between it and what normal carb chainsaws cost would be a good idea as well.
I just brought one today.
Awesome thank you. But I just got MS362. Ms500 not yet available in USA. Looks good
There is a lot of negative comments on this video. That chainsaw is a beast period. Just like everyone else that wants one I also would love to have one too. Great video. 👍👍👍👍
you KNOW you're getting old when you no longer lust after WOMEN but CHAINSAWS
Im not even old dude. My saws dont get other dudes dicks in them lol.
Im 27 dude!
I like them both! And I am 34!? Is there something wrong with me?
Only 18, and care more about saws.....
Im 28 and borderline obsessed with Saw's lol
I'm addicted to chainsaw videos. I need therapy.
Should have done a comparison with a 461 and a 661. I know my old 460 would come very close to the time of that 500i.
Yes, unfortunately, we only had the 362 along with the 500i at the test.
At a much higher weight
A 460 wouldn't come near the time of the 500i, even the 462 feels noticeably slower. The 500i is like an F1 car it's ridiculous how fast and responsive the throttle is.
@@zombiefighterof1987 I guess your used to running stock saws, mine is modified a little and I grind my own chains.
Timber Ray you are on the money. Dude has never run a work saw
Not 80 cubic inches .. maybe 80cc ... it can't be a 1.3L ... LOL
That is so true, my bad!
That would be a hell of engine !!!
if only it was
That would be one badass chainsaw huh? lol
No friend, we are not in the middle age here in Europa, we went to the MKSA system in the beginning of 1900 (:-))
I want to run one so bad. Especially since its not just a new saw but coming from their 500i concrete saw thats been around a minute.
I want one!
Sadly the ETA in Denmark is April / May 2019 and thats a little late this winters forest season. Guess i'll have to buy a 572 xp for this winter.
@@C0ffeeCan Get a 462, save some money and the 462 has a filter system that actually works. Going to be going through pistons and cylinders after a couple hundred hours with filtration like what was shown.
You can make any saw look good with a good sharp chain
skeets that saw is putting down some serious power. They're spinning the chain a little faster and the amazing thing is it has the torque to pull it.
you should always keep your chain sharp
@Ullr the snow God they used to make some good saws
It's true. I run a 28" bar on my MS290. Others say it can't be done but I have for years. That 290 will run every inch and pile chips all day long... so long as I keep the chain sharp.
Hhhhmmmm, so, Skeets, they should use a dull chain?
It's not the first EFI chainsaw ever made. I made on once but used windows vista to run the EFI computer control.
It took about 5 - 7 minutes of vigorous pulling (Not sure exactly cause I passed out from exhaustion once) to get the computer too boot up and run but every time it kicked back hard while cutting it would bluescreen on me.
After two days of use I went back to using a unsharpened late 1800's hand powered buck saw I found in the mountains a few years before.
Man that thing is a beast. My 461 can't keep up !!!
Too all that made comments about the air filter ? It is not whats on the outside but what is inside the filter that counts . The little bit of dust in and around the inside of the saw is normal it is a air cooled two stoke and they suck lots of air inside the housing for cooling .
I stihl like my Huskys and doubt I would change .Old west coast BC boy
Husky will be bringing out their own at some point soon, anyway.
That's a good point the HD filters on the mtronics don't let much in and you still see a good bit around it i was missing a seal around one and it still didn't let much in after a good few days work.
For one that was after 20 fill ups so I would say its doing just fine..lol
Saw has impressive power and sounds really healthy. Also very nice job with the video, footage and editing!
Why is there wood debris past the air filter? It wasn't even super fine dust either.
The air filter doesn't seal on the flat surface like an ms 460/660 it seals around the circular part more like an o'ring. If you look there is no debris past the bottom of the circular tubey looking thing 😊
Hey there I enjoy your videos well up together thank you. The oil cap on the Sthils are a bad design always collect crap that’s hard to get rid of. Normally wash off with fuel, not safe if saws hot nor environmentally sound, or cost effective..... but quick!
i love both stilh and husqvarna that saw looks like husky built even the cylinder .
I like the way he isn’t very verbose and seems to hesitate when he speaks. Probably because English is not his first language. But also because he is a man of few words to begin with.
I bet if it won't start one cold morning you can't fix it without a trip to the Stihl dealer ?
That's a power saw nice saw
I like your music!
Thanks!
Yeah ' great soundtrack ' what's the artists name ?
Does it have a tiny battery for the fuel injection system?
No, which we think is a +
Hi, great review !! I really want one of these saws. At 14 mins 50sec it looks like the casing behind the pull start is breaking up? Greetings from Cornwall ,south west England
Thanks! 14:50 is the end of the video, do you have another time stamp so we can check?
Dan if I may he means 9:08 in when the pull start is pulled down I also noticed that damage @@skogsforum
Game over husky!!
Holy moly look at all that material getting past the air filter seal! Why did Stihl not go with the air injection that they now have on the 241 through 462?
kyle smith its not the seal its the filter itsself are being made in the china factory along with alot of the plastics
@@josephwarren8420 Lots of stuff made in China for sure but I think guys have been having this problem for years with the HD filter system. The new click knobs on the filter covers don't help with the sealing. It is better to swap them out for an old style screw knob and tighten them down more or better yet use a MaxFlow oiled filter. Twenty tanks is also waaaay to much time for one of these filters, they should be cleaned/switched daily if not after a half a day. I have noticed that putting the filter on with the same side up always helps with sealing as the base plate can deform the sealing lip which causes problems with sealing if the filter is not put on the same way. Doesn't sound like much but after cutting 5-10 tanks it makes a difference.
I think when he took the filter off that dust fell down there.
@@TractorTech Let's hope so.
Definitely not made in China. Definitely the same old filter issues.
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Finally, here is the article from the test in English: www.forestry.com/editorial/equipments/stihl-ms-500i-test-first-chainsaw-fuel-injection/
Please what model is it Stihl jacket in the video? :) thanks
ST Hil ↩🔥
I want this chainsaw
More power than my first Honda motorbike!!!
You are a beast
Sweet will be getting one😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Great close up of the insides! Electronic Fuel Injection is the way of the future. :)
It cuts faster for sure but that has to do with a great sharp chain to. It has plenty of power.
Everyone is complaining about the air filter system but it seems to look pretty good to me with 20 tanks ran threw it and to have that little bit of sawdust. If you blow your saw out after you use it and clean the filter I dont think there would be a problem.
was going to buy a 441 magnum next week. hows this one compare
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The only thing that would of made this video better is some hot Swedish babes as click bait.👍👍👍👍
@Mc Kirken l LOL 😂😂
Sexist OINKER!
sexist oinker!
I don't really thing it's a good idea that chainsaw should use the EFI system. Since an EFI system has a lot of sensors, who can be disturbed by dust and dirt, and since this is a chainsaw, there will be a lot of. Also most likely the repair fees will be high since such parts as sensors are ALWAYS overpriced. Sure, there are advantages, such as theres no choke, and better efficiency