So I thought about this one a bit. It actually makes a lot of sense how Pestilence lost to Goblins. Basically Goblins is just a burn deck. And Pestilence also burns the Pestilence player. So the Pestilence player is basically just helping the Goblins player. I think that matchup is highly dependent on who is on the play.
Love the moment at 12:55 where Carl is explaining what all of his cards can do for him, the Thoralf just goes "and this is a Duress!" So funny for no reason.
Thoralf just loves playing elves, he does it at every opportunity. He's genuinely happy in this video. Quirion Ranger is one of my all time favourite cards, and this match proves why!
Carl's misplay- if you want to call it a misplay, is an interesting lesson in that making the "safe" choice- manamorphose into double chatterstorm, isn't always the correct play. sometimes you gotta pray for topdeck lethal and go for it when you're facing down an opponent who is also popping off.
Yeah, it is such a fascinating example of playing to win vs playing to stay alive. In this scenario, making two green is on average what keeps Carl alive for the longest amount of time, but that is almost a guaranteed loss for the storm deck playing against elves that are popping off. But making red is playing to win, playing to draw another mana producing spell off the top of his deck, and in my opinion, has a far higher chance of victory than just casting two chatterstorms.
@@theelectricant98 agreed! The first two Pauper matches were ... unexciting, which is the way things go sometimes. This had some excellent back and forth!
People forget about the alternate mode for Learn, which can often be very relevant in chatterstorm. You can opt to loot instead of pulling in a lesson. I don't think it would've mattered, but that would've been the line I'd go for in the second game. Make the red mana, plan to loot away the chatterstorm in hand and see what you get. Of course with hindsight red mana was definitely the right play.
@@zanebarber8688 i unironically like banding is not actually that complicated, can be summed up in "is the controller of the damaged thing to order how damage is dealt rather than the damage controller"
@@Pistolsatsean and you can block the entire band with only one creature i glossed over the obvious part of banding to focus on the supposedly complex part
@@robertomacetti7069 but you did claim that "it can be summed up in" which is clearly not true, as you need more words to describe the effects of the mechanic, also in your description, still not covered is what constitutes being part of a band "Any creatures with banding, and up to one without, can attack in a band." That is why the mechanic is 11 on the storm scale, not because the mechanic is too complicated, but because it is impossible to explain without taking up an entire cards worth of text, and it isn't impactful enough to justify that design cost.
14:33 is such a fascinating example of playing to win vs playing to stay alive. In this scenario, making two green is on average what keeps Carl alive for the longest amount of time, but that is almost a guaranteed loss for the storm deck playing against elves that are popping off. But making red is playing to win, playing to draw another mana producing spell off the top of his deck, and in my opinion, has a far higher chance of victory than just casting two chatterstorms.
One or two, you could say that one of the two Chatterstorms he cast on that turn was from hand, and he only used one of the two that was in exile. But he definitely should have kept the First Day in his hand.
Did I miss something or should Carl have still been able to keep one of those chatterstorms around the 15:00 mark since he just showed his hand and it was one of the cards in there (meaning he should have cast the 2 from exile)?
NOOOOOO WAY oh my god oh my god this is THRILLING I AM OBSESSED LETSGOOOO ELVES WHOOOOOOOO YEAAH BABEY WIERD TRIBAL DECKS TO THE TOP!!!!!!!!! the only ONLY only dissapointment with this series is that because of how swiss worked out, we wont see elves v goblins in the finals! i am SO excited omg
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Pauper is AGAIN very satisfying. I've started on 5 Pauper EDH decks very recently, 3 of which are choose a background brews and 2 with an uncommon creature at the helm.
This was kind of like the 2019 Tampa Bay Lightning vs Columbus Blue Jackets. Or maybe last year's Bruins vs Panthers. The gigantic favourite starts out looking unbeatable only to fall apart and lose to much rejoicing.
The editing on this video is great. The way the cards in hand are shown and the life total placement its all great. The only thing is I don’t know what cards are being put in bottom after a mulligan. I’m always going back 10 seconds to figure out what they got rid of. If you could put a way to indicate the cards going on bottom that’d be great. Maybe highlight them with a gold boarder right before finishing mulligans? It’s just a suggestion. Great video as always!
Is it just me, or did Karl miss playing his turn 2 land in game 2?? The Galvanic Relay 11:16 showed a tap land that could have been used on the following turn to give him the missing red to win the game...
I genuinely thought chatterstorm was a pun on some card named chatter-something and the card shatterstorm, which I have for some reason. I had no clue a card called chatterstorm exists!
"Storm is the least likely mechanic to be reprinted" Storm is a 10 on the Storm Scale; Bands with Other used to be an 11. Good thing I checked; it was officially moved to 10 this year.
And THIS is why I put my money on the initiative deck. You have only amazing draws or you die draws with storm. But initiative, even the eh draws are still insane, because the initiative is one of the most powerful mechanics they have ever made.
@@sorin_markov Actually it would be a miracle to combo again in that situation. He did the mistake of playing not to lose instead of playing to win. Sometimes with these decks, you have to take the risk because the option to survive a few more turns may look safer but in reality it is usually a guaranteed loss.
@@THECOLLECTOROFSOULS While I agree it was the wrong play, even he realized that after drawing the ritual from it, I wouldn't call it inexplicable. He explicates it right after.
@@sorin_markov He said his odds were better, but they actually weren't even close to being as good. The combination of cards he would need to draw the next two turns were borderline impossible, yet if he went for the win, he had two draws to hit 1 of 13 cards. I don't think Carl even understood what Learn does.
SPOILERS Getting not one but TWO upsets by the original tribal decks feels both great and surreal. Either elves or goblins are going into the final after a reenactment of the original duel decks... let's hope we can have another upset at said final!
Did chatterstorm punt game two? I mean, there is a Night's Whisper in exile, you have 4 black mana, you use two of it to draw two cards then you decide how you want to add mana and go off.
If I do that, I then can no longer play two spells :P it would make me lose on the spot. I have to re-watch the games dozens of times when I edit them and I'm pretty sure there is no way I could have played that game differently to be better. I just got unlucky with my Galvanic relays and thoralf drew the absolute nuts with the Elf deck :P
@@CardmarketMagic How? You have 5 mana after casting Cabal Ritual, you use two to play night's whisper, drawing two cards, putting you at three black mana. You drew into rite of flame and manamorphose, you play the chromatic star, for one black, now you have two black left. Use the star, make a red, draw another card, now you can cast rite of flame. With two other rite of flames in your graveyard you add 4 red. Now you're back at four red and one black mana, a card deeper than you were, then you can cast manamorphose for another card, and even if you couldn't win right then and there, you could cast the two chatterstorms and put even more squirrels out than what you got.
This match had me torn because I love watching Carl win, but I also have been waiting to watch Thoralf win with his Pauper Elves for what feels like years.
13:50 I would've made red green and if I don't topdeck a piece of acceleration, you can still play first day of class into chatterstorm for 6 2/2 squirrels, which is about as good as 11 1/1 squirrels.
Great video! Curious to see if play this match up another 10 times if the elves make any chance at all. I’ve played a lot of chatterstorm in pauper during the months it was legal and it was ridiculous.
We played 6 games before and sweeped all of them. But sometimes that's magic. It was the sake for the first quarters where Thoralf's Storm deck beat Andrea's 6 times in the practice rounds and then lost 0-2 once the camera was on
Like Thorlaf said, if you can do it once you can do it twice; Chatterstorm dropped only a single game in their brackets, but with enough good luck and smart plays you can take down a god.
I will always remember when the Pauper community was so fed up with Storm that they protested by all registering only basic lands in the weekend challenge.
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That H.Blast was a master class smokescreen. I didn't even see it. Phenomenal play. Karls reaction was spot on.
I was so confused as to why he didn't leave 2 untapped elves, as well. Amazing plays by the card market team as always.
as an ex avid elves player I was right with thoralf thinking he had to play the timber watch hehe
For real
Me neither, that was NUTS
Id say theres no way chatterstorm loses but given the results of the last match with pestilence im keeping an open mind. Love this series!
So I thought about this one a bit. It actually makes a lot of sense how Pestilence lost to Goblins. Basically Goblins is just a burn deck. And Pestilence also burns the Pestilence player. So the Pestilence player is basically just helping the Goblins player. I think that matchup is highly dependent on who is on the play.
@@crawdaddy1234
But 2010 goblins still is a very bad burn deck.
@@crawdaddy1234if u look at the Swiss rounds pestilence went 2-0 against goblins
Well Carl clearly punted game 2, not playing the Land turn 2 and with the double chatterstorm play. But I'm still glad storm lost.
I expected goblins to win that MU.
I expect chatter to win this one
Carl clearly loves playing the villain 😂
He is indeed the bad guy this time, after being the underdog in modern! haha
Love the moment at 12:55 where Carl is explaining what all of his cards can do for him, the Thoralf just goes "and this is a Duress!" So funny for no reason.
I'm glad we got to see Chatterstorm going off at least once.
damn, sideboarding between second and third game took so long that toffal got a haircut - and they didn't even change any cards!
Yeah Its look like it
Yeah that definitely threw me off a little, lmao.
How the hell did you even notice that? 🤣
Thoralf just loves playing elves, he does it at every opportunity.
He's genuinely happy in this video.
Quirion Ranger is one of my all time favourite cards, and this match proves why!
Toffel is all good vibes, all the time.
@@petermoglia happier than usual
@@sh41 same Quirion Ranger is one of my favorite cards, I actually have a CGC graded 10
carl is really up there with just the right amount of smugness when explaining his win (i love it)
Carl's misplay- if you want to call it a misplay, is an interesting lesson in that making the "safe" choice- manamorphose into double chatterstorm, isn't always the correct play. sometimes you gotta pray for topdeck lethal and go for it when you're facing down an opponent who is also popping off.
Yeah, it is such a fascinating example of playing to win vs playing to stay alive. In this scenario, making two green is on average what keeps Carl alive for the longest amount of time, but that is almost a guaranteed loss for the storm deck playing against elves that are popping off. But making red is playing to win, playing to draw another mana producing spell off the top of his deck, and in my opinion, has a far higher chance of victory than just casting two chatterstorms.
beyond that you can still defend with the 6 2/2's
rookie storm player tbh
There's a reason Toffle is a continental champion.
found the perfect line in both his wins. did not see that hydroblast coming!
EXACTLY!!!!!
Well done! Thoralf had some excellent reads and timings. Carl was able to show the sheer power of the deck well. All in all, a good match!
Favorite episode yet, love seeing both decks get to do their thing
@@theelectricant98 agreed! The first two Pauper matches were ... unexciting, which is the way things go sometimes. This had some excellent back and forth!
"storm is the least likely to be reprinted"
newest set has a card that can grant ANY card storm
"uhhh...."
The storm scale is just for standard sets, the newer storm cards came from modern horizons
Commander precons don't count, they're not even Modern legal
What card are you refering to?
@@XxcallofdutyboyxXProbably Crackling Spellslinger
@@XxcallofdutyboyxXCrackling spellslinger
People forget about the alternate mode for Learn, which can often be very relevant in chatterstorm. You can opt to loot instead of pulling in a lesson. I don't think it would've mattered, but that would've been the line I'd go for in the second game. Make the red mana, plan to loot away the chatterstorm in hand and see what you get.
Of course with hindsight red mana was definitely the right play.
Learn doesn't loot, it rummages. That's probably why he didn't go for that line.
That's true, but it doesn't change the line, except that Carl might have forgot he had cards in hand instead of exile.
4:49 The music here adds so much to Carl’s dramatic timing. Whoever edited this, well done
It's me carl 🤓 I learned to talk in a way that would match my music edits afterwards
@@CardmarketMagic That's hilarious. I love the energy of doing something dramatic and already planning out what music is going to play when you do it
The editing at 16:45 is just amazing. Great work!
OOOH! Today his name is ThorELF!
That was a sweet game, the hblast outta nowhere 😂
Wow, what a battle, I think Thoralf may have demoralized Carl with his beautiful montage. Amazing video as always, super fun to watch.
As soon as the song at 15:07 kicks in on a Cardmarket video, you know the turn ahead is about to be sweet.
I need to know what song this is, I heard it in the Jund history video and I was hooked
That upset was on par with the Prismatic Black in the Standard tournament!
What a match…
That was so much fun to watch I love the best deck ever series.
at 1:25
can I say that technically the highest rated mechanic on the storm scale is "banding with" at 11?
We really need more “bands with homarids” cards
@@zanebarber8688 i unironically like banding
is not actually that complicated, can be summed up in "is the controller of the damaged thing to order how damage is dealt rather than the damage controller"
@@robertomacetti7069 That isn't all it does though
@@Pistolsatsean and you can block the entire band with only one creature
i glossed over the obvious part of banding to focus on the supposedly complex part
@@robertomacetti7069 but you did claim that "it can be summed up in" which is clearly not true, as you need more words to describe the effects of the mechanic, also in your description, still not covered is what constitutes being part of a band "Any creatures with banding, and up to one without, can attack in a band." That is why the mechanic is 11 on the storm scale, not because the mechanic is too complicated, but because it is impossible to explain without taking up an entire cards worth of text, and it isn't impactful enough to justify that design cost.
16:43 Edits like this are the extra spice that makes this the best MtG channel lol
What!!! This video had an incredible ending!!!
Seriously! That's magic for you!
This video has sold me on playing Elves, the deck just looks supremely fun!!
The game play videos are litterally my favorite, never stop being you cardmarket! ❤
Love the pauper content! Great series!
14:33 is such a fascinating example of playing to win vs playing to stay alive.
In this scenario, making two green is on average what keeps Carl alive for the longest amount of time, but that is almost a guaranteed loss for the storm deck playing against elves that are popping off. But making red is playing to win, playing to draw another mana producing spell off the top of his deck, and in my opinion, has a far higher chance of victory than just casting two chatterstorms.
Whooo! What a match! Glad to see both decks do their thing, and thanks for explaining so well.
19:27 holy shit that ruled
Carl sent 2 cards to exile that should have been in his hand 😂
I mean he can cast neither of those cards
One or two, you could say that one of the two Chatterstorms he cast on that turn was from hand, and he only used one of the two that was in exile. But he definitely should have kept the First Day in his hand.
Unbelievable finish. Upset after upset so far!
That was truly incredible, love it, as usual
What a match, incredible job. Can't wait for the next match
Perfect timing! I love this series!
I love this series its teaching me a lot about sideboards!
What a good game, gj Carl at playing the villian!
Did I miss something or should Carl have still been able to keep one of those chatterstorms around the 15:00 mark since he just showed his hand and it was one of the cards in there (meaning he should have cast the 2 from exile)?
Yeah he should not have exiled them, he did it by mistake
I clicked elves because I believed. Well played, this match really showed off pauper, and it's meta defying nature.
if the storm count is 4 then you exile 5 cards with Galvanic Relay or am i missing something ?
Games 2 and 3 were crazy! Great content as always, guys.
After seeing the first game, I was all in on team chatterstorm. But whew. That was one well-piloted elfball deck.
Pauper Elves is probably my favorite deck in magic. So glad to see it moving on.
Is my childhood's dream to see in this final Elves vs Goblins. We are getting there!
WOW, that was in-sane. Very excited with the results of this game, I'm really looking forward to the Goblins matchup :D
As an Elf player Green Mage ...this was some fun stuff to watch. Love both decks!
Never expected this outcome😮
I am sending you guys my medical bill, my jaw dropped and now I need a doctor to reattach it.
Holy! What a game!
NOOOOOO WAY oh my god oh my god this is THRILLING I AM OBSESSED LETSGOOOO ELVES WHOOOOOOOO YEAAH BABEY WIERD TRIBAL DECKS TO THE TOP!!!!!!!!!
the only ONLY only dissapointment with this series is that because of how swiss worked out, we wont see elves v goblins in the finals! i am SO excited omg
100% on predictions so far. Not knowing any of the decks really helps 😂
I did not expect a match involving chatterstorm to be so much fun
Man, those Thoralf pictures with elves cards were hilarious
I'm actually happy you didn't try to win game 2. Now we will get an iconic matchup
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Wow, after that first game I understand the power of Squirrels. Insane.
I mean, emerkul does die to them
you guys outdid yourself again!
You had me with the obviscated blue mana for the blast, i thought you'd made mistake.
What! I did not expect that twist!
Pauper is AGAIN very satisfying. I've started on 5 Pauper EDH decks very recently, 3 of which are choose a background brews and 2 with an uncommon creature at the helm.
This was kind of like the 2019 Tampa Bay Lightning vs Columbus Blue Jackets. Or maybe last year's Bruins vs Panthers. The gigantic favourite starts out looking unbeatable only to fall apart and lose to much rejoicing.
I was so happy when thorralf was playing. Lets gooooo!
THORALF YOU MADMAN!
Amazing set of games and very surprised by the outcome. 1 of those games went how I expected. The other two... 😅
That HYDRO BLAST !! Whoooooo🎉🎉🎉
The editing on this video is great. The way the cards in hand are shown and the life total placement its all great. The only thing is I don’t know what cards are being put in bottom after a mulligan. I’m always going back 10 seconds to figure out what they got rid of. If you could put a way to indicate the cards going on bottom that’d be great. Maybe highlight them with a gold boarder right before finishing mulligans? It’s just a suggestion. Great video as always!
Love pauper, love this series!
The elf Montage at 16:50 🤣
Go Elves!!! I've had an elf deck since Urza's Saga! They just keep getting better!
Is it just me, or did Karl miss playing his turn 2 land in game 2??
The Galvanic Relay 11:16 showed a tap land that could have been used on the following turn to give him the missing red to win the game...
I started the turn with a vault of whisperers to play my first spell 👍
Galvanic Relay specifies that the cards can be played on your NEXT turn, you can't use anything you flip the turn you cast Galvanic Relay.
Toralf playing Elves, how fitting
That feeling when you go to Pauper for the slower gameplay but still run into that turn 2 storm deck win! T^T
I genuinely thought chatterstorm was a pun on some card named chatter-something and the card shatterstorm, which I have for some reason. I had no clue a card called chatterstorm exists!
"Storm is the least likely mechanic to be reprinted"
Storm is a 10 on the Storm Scale; Bands with Other used to be an 11.
Good thing I checked; it was officially moved to 10 this year.
Bands with other card incoming in Modern Horizons 3! (I’m kidding but it’d be hilarious)
@@viviblue7277 Hey, I'd love it
And THIS is why I put my money on the initiative deck. You have only amazing draws or you die draws with storm. But initiative, even the eh draws are still insane, because the initiative is one of the most powerful mechanics they have ever made.
It only lost because Carl inexplicably chose to make GG instead of RG.
@@dang476 He laid it out pretty clear, his odds were better with GG
@@sorin_markov Actually it would be a miracle to combo again in that situation. He did the mistake of playing not to lose instead of playing to win. Sometimes with these decks, you have to take the risk because the option to survive a few more turns may look safer but in reality it is usually a guaranteed loss.
@@THECOLLECTOROFSOULS
While I agree it was the wrong play, even he realized that after drawing the ritual from it, I wouldn't call it inexplicable. He explicates it right after.
@@sorin_markov He said his odds were better, but they actually weren't even close to being as good. The combination of cards he would need to draw the next two turns were borderline impossible, yet if he went for the win, he had two draws to hit 1 of 13 cards. I don't think Carl even understood what Learn does.
this was exciting!
Wake up babe! New cardmarket video dropped!
Did Carl miss a land drop from exile in the second game?
No I started the turn with a vault of whispers 👍
SPOILERS
Getting not one but TWO upsets by the original tribal decks feels both great and surreal. Either elves or goblins are going into the final after a reenactment of the original duel decks... let's hope we can have another upset at said final!
Did chatterstorm punt game two? I mean, there is a Night's Whisper in exile, you have 4 black mana, you use two of it to draw two cards then you decide how you want to add mana and go off.
There were many punts indeed.
If I do that, I then can no longer play two spells :P it would make me lose on the spot. I have to re-watch the games dozens of times when I edit them and I'm pretty sure there is no way I could have played that game differently to be better. I just got unlucky with my Galvanic relays and thoralf drew the absolute nuts with the Elf deck :P
@@CardmarketMagic How? You have 5 mana after casting Cabal Ritual, you use two to play night's whisper, drawing two cards, putting you at three black mana. You drew into rite of flame and manamorphose, you play the chromatic star, for one black, now you have two black left. Use the star, make a red, draw another card, now you can cast rite of flame. With two other rite of flames in your graveyard you add 4 red. Now you're back at four red and one black mana, a card deeper than you were, then you can cast manamorphose for another card, and even if you couldn't win right then and there, you could cast the two chatterstorms and put even more squirrels out than what you got.
ELVES BABY! Unbeatable deck since the birth of pauper.
This match had me torn because I love watching Carl win, but I also have been waiting to watch Thoralf win with his Pauper Elves for what feels like years.
13:50 I would've made red green and if I don't topdeck a piece of acceleration, you can still play first day of class into chatterstorm for 6 2/2 squirrels, which is about as good as 11 1/1 squirrels.
Damn, that hydroblast outta nowhere.
Thoralf looking so fresh
Thank you!! ❤
We really need a best of five.
Incredible hubris, incredible plays 😘👌
20:35 "You just hate your lands!" ~Toffel, 0 lands in play.
😆
Great video! Curious to see if play this match up another 10 times if the elves make any chance at all. I’ve played a lot of chatterstorm in pauper during the months it was legal and it was ridiculous.
We played 6 games before and sweeped all of them. But sometimes that's magic. It was the sake for the first quarters where Thoralf's Storm deck beat Andrea's 6 times in the practice rounds and then lost 0-2 once the camera was on
Didn’t expect the 5-0 chatterstorm deck to be knocked out first round but kudos to elves
The fact that manamorphose was cast before nights whisper in game 2 hurt my soul but otherwise great content as always
My prediction won! Woot woot for Elves.
Like Thorlaf said, if you can do it once you can do it twice; Chatterstorm dropped only a single game in their brackets, but with enough good luck and smart plays you can take down a god.
Cardmarket team delivers again. Please post name of the players and participants! Great to know the ppl involved
We did :) you cans ee the entire Swiss rounds in the link in the description
Storm scale is specifically for being reprinted into standard for those wondering. Not just all reprints.
Guess this means initiative becomes the favorite deck . Sone place LSV is happy cause those cards are in his crazy cube
I'm not so sure, goblins feels like a pretty good match up against initiative, I think initiative beats everything else though.
Carl still having the crown hanging off his head in the interview killed me 😅
LET'S GO!!! I'm so happy my favorite Pauper deck didn't just get slaughtered by Chatterstorm.
Jesus Christ.
Never heard of chatterstorm before.
What the actual hell is that deck.
I will always remember when the Pauper community was so fed up with Storm that they protested by all registering only basic lands in the weekend challenge.