Chatterstorm vs Elves | Quarterfinals 4 - Quest for the Best Pauper Deck Ever
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- What was the best Pauper deck ever? We made our community vote for one deck to represent each year since 2010, recruited 16 Pauper Experts to play a 5-round tournament, and now we bring you each match of the Top 8. Carl is playing Thoralf and either Chatterstorm or Elves could be knocked out of the tournament.
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The Swiss pilot for Elves was @alessandromoretti1177
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Id say theres no way chatterstorm loses but given the results of the last match with pestilence im keeping an open mind. Love this series!
So I thought about this one a bit. It actually makes a lot of sense how Pestilence lost to Goblins. Basically Goblins is just a burn deck. And Pestilence also burns the Pestilence player. So the Pestilence player is basically just helping the Goblins player. I think that matchup is highly dependent on who is on the play.
@@crawdaddy2004
But 2010 goblins still is a very bad burn deck.
@@crawdaddy2004if u look at the Swiss rounds pestilence went 2-0 against goblins
Well Carl clearly punted game 2, not playing the Land turn 2 and with the double chatterstorm play. But I'm still glad storm lost.
I expected goblins to win that MU.
I expect chatter to win this one
That H.Blast was a master class smokescreen. I didn't even see it. Phenomenal play. Karls reaction was spot on.
I was so confused as to why he didn't leave 2 untapped elves, as well. Amazing plays by the card market team as always.
as an ex avid elves player I was right with thoralf thinking he had to play the timber watch hehe
For real
Carl clearly loves playing the villain 😂
He is indeed the bad guy this time, after being the underdog in modern! haha
Love the moment at 12:55 where Carl is explaining what all of his cards can do for him, the Thoralf just goes "and this is a Duress!" So funny for no reason.
damn, sideboarding between second and third game took so long that toffal got a haircut - and they didn't even change any cards!
Yeah Its look like it
Yeah that definitely threw me off a little, lmao.
How the hell did you even notice that? 🤣
I'm glad we got to see Chatterstorm going off at least once.
Thoralf just loves playing elves, he does it at every opportunity.
He's genuinely happy in this video.
Quirion Ranger is one of my all time favourite cards, and this match proves why!
Toffel is all good vibes, all the time.
@@petermoglia happier than usual
@@sh41 same Quirion Ranger is one of my favorite cards, I actually have a CGC graded 10
"storm is the least likely to be reprinted"
newest set has a card that can grant ANY card storm
"uhhh...."
The storm scale is just for standard sets, the newer storm cards came from modern horizons
Commander precons don't count, they're not even Modern legal
What card are you refering to?
@@XxcallofdutyboyxXProbably Crackling Spellslinger
@@XxcallofdutyboyxXCrackling spellslinger
carl is really up there with just the right amount of smugness when explaining his win (i love it)
Well done! Thoralf had some excellent reads and timings. Carl was able to show the sheer power of the deck well. All in all, a good match!
Favorite episode yet, love seeing both decks get to do their thing
@@theelectricant98 agreed! The first two Pauper matches were ... unexciting, which is the way things go sometimes. This had some excellent back and forth!
There's a reason Toffle is a continental champion.
found the perfect line in both his wins. did not see that hydroblast coming!
EXACTLY!!!!!
People forget about the alternate mode for Learn, which can often be very relevant in chatterstorm. You can opt to loot instead of pulling in a lesson. I don't think it would've mattered, but that would've been the line I'd go for in the second game. Make the red mana, plan to loot away the chatterstorm in hand and see what you get.
Of course with hindsight red mana was definitely the right play.
Learn doesn't loot, it rummages. That's probably why he didn't go for that line.
That's true, but it doesn't change the line, except that Carl might have forgot he had cards in hand instead of exile.
Carl's misplay- if you want to call it a misplay, is an interesting lesson in that making the "safe" choice- manamorphose into double chatterstorm, isn't always the correct play. sometimes you gotta pray for topdeck lethal and go for it when you're facing down an opponent who is also popping off.
Yeah, it is such a fascinating example of playing to win vs playing to stay alive. In this scenario, making two green is on average what keeps Carl alive for the longest amount of time, but that is almost a guaranteed loss for the storm deck playing against elves that are popping off. But making red is playing to win, playing to draw another mana producing spell off the top of his deck, and in my opinion, has a far higher chance of victory than just casting two chatterstorms.
beyond that you can still defend with the 6 2/2's
rookie storm player tbh
That was a sweet game, the hblast outta nowhere 😂
OOOH! Today his name is ThorELF!
4:49 The music here adds so much to Carl’s dramatic timing. Whoever edited this, well done
It's me carl 🤓 I learned to talk in a way that would match my music edits afterwards
@@CardmarketMagic That's hilarious. I love the energy of doing something dramatic and already planning out what music is going to play when you do it
That upset was on par with the Prismatic Black in the Standard tournament!
The editing at 16:45 is just amazing. Great work!
As soon as the song at 15:07 kicks in on a Cardmarket video, you know the turn ahead is about to be sweet.
I need to know what song this is, I heard it in the Jund history video and I was hooked
What a match…
That was so much fun to watch I love the best deck ever series.
at 1:25
can I say that technically the highest rated mechanic on the storm scale is "banding with" at 11?
We really need more “bands with homarids” cards
@@zanebarber8688 i unironically like banding
is not actually that complicated, can be summed up in "is the controller of the damaged thing to order how damage is dealt rather than the damage controller"
@@robertomacetti7069 That isn't all it does though
@@Pistolsatsean and you can block the entire band with only one creature
i glossed over the obvious part of banding to focus on the supposedly complex part
@@robertomacetti7069 but you did claim that "it can be summed up in" which is clearly not true, as you need more words to describe the effects of the mechanic, also in your description, still not covered is what constitutes being part of a band "Any creatures with banding, and up to one without, can attack in a band." That is why the mechanic is 11 on the storm scale, not because the mechanic is too complicated, but because it is impossible to explain without taking up an entire cards worth of text, and it isn't impactful enough to justify that design cost.
Wow, what a battle, I think Thoralf may have demoralized Carl with his beautiful montage. Amazing video as always, super fun to watch.
16:43 Edits like this are the extra spice that makes this the best MtG channel lol
What!!! This video had an incredible ending!!!
Seriously! That's magic for you!
Carl sent 2 cards to exile that should have been in his hand 😂
I mean he can cast neither of those cards
One or two, you could say that one of the two Chatterstorms he cast on that turn was from hand, and he only used one of the two that was in exile. But he definitely should have kept the First Day in his hand.
This video has sold me on playing Elves, the deck just looks supremely fun!!
Unbelievable finish. Upset after upset so far!
14:33 is such a fascinating example of playing to win vs playing to stay alive.
In this scenario, making two green is on average what keeps Carl alive for the longest amount of time, but that is almost a guaranteed loss for the storm deck playing against elves that are popping off. But making red is playing to win, playing to draw another mana producing spell off the top of his deck, and in my opinion, has a far higher chance of victory than just casting two chatterstorms.
Heads up: The Storm Scale is MaRo’s personal opinion on how likely mechanics are to return in Standard legal sets. The Storm Scale isn’t official and it doesn’t track how likely they are to return in supplemental sets.
The game play videos are litterally my favorite, never stop being you cardmarket! ❤
Love the pauper content! Great series!
Man, those Thoralf pictures with elves cards were hilarious
Pauper Elves is probably my favorite deck in magic. So glad to see it moving on.
100% on predictions so far. Not knowing any of the decks really helps 😂
What a match, incredible job. Can't wait for the next match
Is my childhood's dream to see in this final Elves vs Goblins. We are getting there!
Whooo! What a match! Glad to see both decks do their thing, and thanks for explaining so well.
What a good game, gj Carl at playing the villian!
This was kind of like the 2019 Tampa Bay Lightning vs Columbus Blue Jackets. Or maybe last year's Bruins vs Panthers. The gigantic favourite starts out looking unbeatable only to fall apart and lose to much rejoicing.
I clicked elves because I believed. Well played, this match really showed off pauper, and it's meta defying nature.
I did not expect a match involving chatterstorm to be so much fun
I love this series its teaching me a lot about sideboards!
Perfect timing! I love this series!
I am sending you guys my medical bill, my jaw dropped and now I need a doctor to reattach it.
Holy! What a game!
After seeing the first game, I was all in on team chatterstorm. But whew. That was one well-piloted elfball deck.
Wow, after that first game I understand the power of Squirrels. Insane.
I mean, emerkul does die to them
Games 2 and 3 were crazy! Great content as always, guys.
That was truly incredible, love it, as usual
Did I miss something or should Carl have still been able to keep one of those chatterstorms around the 15:00 mark since he just showed his hand and it was one of the cards in there (meaning he should have cast the 2 from exile)?
Yeah he should not have exiled them, he did it by mistake
Amazing set of games and very surprised by the outcome. 1 of those games went how I expected. The other two... 😅
What an upset. Great play by thoralf. But there were so impactful missplays in game 2.
WOW, that was in-sane. Very excited with the results of this game, I'm really looking forward to the Goblins matchup :D
"Storm is the least likely mechanic to be reprinted"
Storm is a 10 on the Storm Scale; Bands with Other used to be an 11.
Good thing I checked; it was officially moved to 10 this year.
Bands with other card incoming in Modern Horizons 3! (I’m kidding but it’d be hilarious)
@@viviblue7277 Hey, I'd love it
Damn, that hydroblast outta nowhere.
You had me with the obviscated blue mana for the blast, i thought you'd made mistake.
if the storm count is 4 then you exile 5 cards with Galvanic Relay or am i missing something ?
Never expected this outcome😮
I was so happy when thorralf was playing. Lets gooooo!
I'm actually happy you didn't try to win game 2. Now we will get an iconic matchup
That feeling when you go to Pauper for the slower gameplay but still run into that turn 2 storm deck win! T^T
LET'S GO!!! I'm so happy my favorite Pauper deck didn't just get slaughtered by Chatterstorm.
The fact that manamorphose was cast before nights whisper in game 2 hurt my soul but otherwise great content as always
Didn’t expect the 5-0 chatterstorm deck to be knocked out first round but kudos to elves
Guess this means initiative becomes the favorite deck . Sone place LSV is happy cause those cards are in his crazy cube
I'm not so sure, goblins feels like a pretty good match up against initiative, I think initiative beats everything else though.
NOOOOOO WAY oh my god oh my god this is THRILLING I AM OBSESSED LETSGOOOO ELVES WHOOOOOOOO YEAAH BABEY WIERD TRIBAL DECKS TO THE TOP!!!!!!!!!
the only ONLY only dissapointment with this series is that because of how swiss worked out, we wont see elves v goblins in the finals! i am SO excited omg
Pauper is AGAIN very satisfying. I've started on 5 Pauper EDH decks very recently, 3 of which are choose a background brews and 2 with an uncommon creature at the helm.
THORALF YOU MADMAN!
Go Elves!!! I've had an elf deck since Urza's Saga! They just keep getting better!
Caaaaaarl! You kept forgetting to resolve the actual spells! You were only resolving the copies from storm! Caaaaaaaaarl!
And THIS is why I put my money on the initiative deck. You have only amazing draws or you die draws with storm. But initiative, even the eh draws are still insane, because the initiative is one of the most powerful mechanics they have ever made.
It only lost because Carl inexplicably chose to make GG instead of RG.
@@dang476 He laid it out pretty clear, his odds were better with GG
@@sorin_markov Actually it would be a miracle to combo again in that situation. He did the mistake of playing not to lose instead of playing to win. Sometimes with these decks, you have to take the risk because the option to survive a few more turns may look safer but in reality it is usually a guaranteed loss.
@@THECOLLECTOROFSOULS
While I agree it was the wrong play, even he realized that after drawing the ritual from it, I wouldn't call it inexplicable. He explicates it right after.
@@sorin_markov He said his odds were better, but they actually weren't even close to being as good. The combination of cards he would need to draw the next two turns were borderline impossible, yet if he went for the win, he had two draws to hit 1 of 13 cards. I don't think Carl even understood what Learn does.
ELVES BABY! Unbeatable deck since the birth of pauper.
SPOILERS
Getting not one but TWO upsets by the original tribal decks feels both great and surreal. Either elves or goblins are going into the final after a reenactment of the original duel decks... let's hope we can have another upset at said final!
19:27 holy shit that ruled
This match had me torn because I love watching Carl win, but I also have been waiting to watch Thoralf win with his Pauper Elves for what feels like years.
The games were academic, Carl DQ'd himself by rearranging his graveyard while counting for Cabal Ritual. Death Spark says "Hi." >:D
Toralf playing Elves, how fitting
What! I did not expect that twist!
Cardmarket team delivers again. Please post name of the players and participants! Great to know the ppl involved
We did :) you cans ee the entire Swiss rounds in the link in the description
Man, counterspells really do get it done
Spoilers:
Amazingly, we may see Goblins vs. Elves in the finale - Just as Richard Garfield intended
Who would win in an fight, Toralf or 11 Squirrels 🤔
So, just some clarification on the "Storm Scale". First, its not an official lost, just a fun thing MaRo does to talk about keyword abilities. Second, Storm may be a 10, but so are several other abilities, making Storm not so much the most powerful or least likely yo be reprinted mechanic, but rather, just one of several mechanics that are not going to show up often, if at all, in the future.
I'd not be shocked, in all honesty, if Storm finds its way down to a 9 on the Storm Scale, or even an 8. With great design, it can (and regularly does) come back in sets, though not in anything Standard Legal since its debut. Many of the 10's on the list are straight up never coming back no matter what, like Ante, Banding, asymetrical power/toughness counters, etc.
Honestly, I believe the only reason Storm is still rated higher than the likes of Epic, Attractions, negative base power or toughness, Companion, Phyrexian Mana, Dredge, Rampage, Landhome, Annihilator, etc. is because the scale is named after it and it would be a little weird to have it not take a top spot.
Storm scale is specifically for being reprinted into standard for those wondering. Not just all reprints.
We really need a best of five.
That HYDRO BLAST !! Whoooooo🎉🎉🎉
I know this is just for fun, but I'm pretty sure this was Thoralf beating Carl rather than elfs beating chatterstorm.
For real!
Like Thorlaf said, if you can do it once you can do it twice; Chatterstorm dropped only a single game in their brackets, but with enough good luck and smart plays you can take down a god.
it is an important distinction that was missed that first day of class says "when it enters, put a counter on it" as a triggered ability rather then "enters with" as a replacement effect.
Carl still having the crown hanging off his head in the interview killed me 😅
Love that the last game finished with 1 land in play between both players 😅
Carl managing to loose with Chatterstorm is very much on brand for him.
You could 't really have played that game differently. Thoralf just drew the nuts and I bricked pretty hard on my Galvanic relays 💁♂️
@@CardmarketMagic I mean, you even talk in the video about how you could have played differently, and it would have won the game. Making the wrong colors off of manamorphose, directly after explaining the reason to make the other colors, is a pretty obvious punt.
you guys outdid yourself again!
Gotta love the fact the next round is the very first duel deck for those that remember that product lol.
Hoping for the Elves vs Goblins final at this point :D Great games.
Holy crap what a win! I couldn't believe it. No way I thought chatterstorm lost.
Jesus Christ.
Never heard of chatterstorm before.
What the actual hell is that deck.
No way, this honestly was a super luck based knockout.
I was so angry at Thoralf for tapping out on turn three until he showed off that sick line
Plot twist i didnt expect after the first game. Wow!