Cool thing I just learned recently about aetherflux, you can actually hold priority on the gain life trigger and respond to it by casting more spells; the amount of life gained isn’t checked until resolution of the ability. So, for example, if you’re going to cast 5 spells into your aetherflux, instead of the life gain looking like 1+2+3+4+5, if you hold priority on each of the triggers , and cast instants on top of them, your life gain would look like 5+5+5+5+5.
@@thetrinketmage edit: this is incorrect: the same is true for actual storm spells, you can hold priority on the storm trigger, start casting other spells, and they'll be counted when the storm ability eventually resolves (they wont. end of edit) . The best tip i have based on years of manual storming in cEDH is to never fully resolve mind's desire. always leave the original on the stack. If you didn't exile a bounce spell effect (narset, remand), one of your draw spells might still find one, opening the possibility for tripple minds desire if you also have access to flashback. also, great content 👍 thanks!
@ghvtrf I'm going back to Izzet guild because new possibilities have been opened in my mind thanks to all three of you (the person I replied to, OP, and Trinket Mage).
@@ghvtrf doesn’t the reminder text says it counts spells "cast before [the spell with storm] this turn,"? So casting another spell in response won't affect your storm count for that spell?
@@2trixs you are indeed correct. i always interpreted the "it" as referring to the storm ability resolving but never looked up the rulings. i will edit my comment.
Fun fact with Aetherflux. If you're storming with instants, you can respond to the Aetherflux triggers to play more spells. So if you play 5 spells, rather then gaining 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 life, your gain 5 life 5 times.
@@simplysage3562 So basically, Aetherflux only checks how many spells have been cast when it's resolving its trigger, not when you trigger it. If you have an Aetherflux trigger on the stack already, then you cast another spell, you'd create a new Aetherflux trigger, but you're also "updating" the amounts of spells cast this turn. Aetherflux uses the updated spells cast number, not the original number.
Thank you for this!! I tried making Alania, Divergent Storm into a storm deck but my friend taught me how to use incremental value spells that aren't exactly storm related
I literally just built this, friends and I did 50 dollar decks. I went for a kykar deck where the idea is to cantrip like 8-10 little one and two mana spells, then play something like ignite memories or minds desire. Mizzix’s mastery is also INSANE.
When I started playing a year and a half ago, I made my first deck whit the idea "I want to make a mage deck that focus on casting instants and sorceries to go boom", without knowing much about magic I made an Mizzix of the Ismagnus deck entire focused on X spells. It is not exactly a storm deck but the sensation of playing it looks like one, sometimes I just acidentally causes the entire board to suffer 1000 damage of a fireball copied 50 times... Or I just fizzle to oblivion because I didn't known how to make proper decks lol
Your explanation resonates with my experience with an Izzet deck back when "Thousand Year Storm" was standard-legal. It didn't win often (I'm not great at building decks), but when it did it was so exciting. The unpredictability was a big part of my enjoyment of the deck.
Thousand Year Storm is such a cool card. I actually have it in my Zaffai, Thunder Conductor deck. It pairs super well with Storm-Kiln artist. The more instants and sorceries you cast, the more treasures you make and the more treasures you make, the more instants and sorceries you can cast.
One of my favorite decks I built years ago was an attempt at a super low budget Storm Deck using Elsha of the Infinite, Cost Reducers + Top Deck Maninpulation + Elsha means I am casting 50+ artifacts in one turn, combine that with mass bounce spells and I can cast well over 120 spells in 1 turn, Elsha also has the added benefit of Prowess to function as a backup win con if I cannot get a high enough count to triple kill and have to settle for two or Commander Damaging out a Lifegain deck. Thanks to reprints over the years cards like Grapeshot and the Talismans have helped the deck stay incredibly cheap and give it a little more power
I love storm, gotta be my favorite archetype by far. My favorite deck has to be Kess though I have many others I love. Nothing beats the feeling of using that change of fortune twice in a turn or being able to cheat out a displacer kitten mid storm by just reanimating it because grixis is busted. And for that deck its simultaneously card draw and ramp since I can either blink a rock or Kess herself to create a pseudo past in flames.
Yess Kess! Mine runs displacer kitten, and Chancellor of the Spires..... = cast every instant/sorcery in my opponents GY.... Ppl tend to scoop when you do it a second time (since it doesn't exile the spells)
Storm play tip: plan your turn out before you cast any spells. I generally like to have a plan for every card in my hand including the order in which I cast them. It can also be good to have a sense of what effects you’re hoping to draw.
My Magnus the Red EDH deck has my favorite pesudo-storm card I've found so far in it: Sorcerer Class. It just deals escalating damage to the entire table one turns when im cranking out spells- which, with Buyback spells like Haze of Rage, and cost reducers like Magnus himself or Minsplice, it can get out of hand VERY quickly. I also pack a single copy of Empty the Warrens for emergencies.
I love Storm in Magic and loved Miracle Rogue back in pre-standard Hearthstone. Got two different variants of Stella Lee. The more powerful version plays like Storm until the combo finish, usually by turn 4 if not interacted with. The second one is just basically Storm; winning with stuff like Guttersnipe. Stella allows you to turn a treasure generating card into a mana positive especially with cost reducers or get that extra card draw from a cantrip. Many ways to use her to turn a fizzle into a win. Have been thinking of turning the more casual version into a spell copy theme deck however for extra shenanigans.
I recently brewed a Rakdos, the muscle storm deck aimed at high power/cedh and it works quite well. Of course it fails to interaction that removes your commander but you also are almost guaranteed to go through your deck and find your wincons if you untap with your commander and some mana. It's very satisfying to play as you see the pieces comming together until there's no way you can miss.
I have a Kogla deck that is essentially Monogreen Storm. He bounces a human for 1G, so any human that goes mana positive (there are a lot) allows infinite casts. From there, ETB triggers usually draw my whole deck while generating infinite mana. The list is on TappedOut as King Kong Combo if anyone is interested. It's fairly cheap if you cut from Aluren and The Great Henge (which aren't strictly necessary anyway).
this sounds awesome, I knew the big monke had it in him. I was interested to build him as my mono green commander (I eventually went with Mowu, but that turned out to be quite boring for my liking)
Zada storm is by far my favorite deck, I run a super budget version, it began as a combat matters with millions of tokens and evolved into a storm combo deck with various wincons, even mid game I discover new forms of winning, god I love that deck! edit: in my channel you can find the link to my moxfield profile
Funny enough this ended up in my feed right around the time I was considering building a storm deck lol. I've now done so and have been having a blast storming off with the new Ral from MH3!
I have a Birgi deck I generally refer to as spellslinger burn (because there's no actual storm card in it. No aetherflux, either) that I think fits the bill. All it does is ramp, impulse, and Guttersnipe.
This is inspiring! I am probably going to build some sort of Grixis storm with Kess, so that I dont bother with too much planning. Lots of rituals + land untaps.
I have a psuedo Storm deck with my Omanth Locus of the Roil spellslinger/ramp deck, and it's an absolute blast to play. The main game plan is to use ramp effects that draw cards and put lands into play like Explore and Growth spiral to ramp and dig into the deck to eventually cast a huge X cost spell like Crackle with Power or Comet Storm, even Doppelgang is crazy in the deck to win. But it does and can with casting my cantrip ramp while Thousand Year Storm is in play and killing people with 40 copies of Lightning Bolt. I love the deck so much
Storm is also my favorite archetype in Magic and mostly decks I build, I do thinking about spellslinger and storm. Buying and casting a lot of spells is the vibe that caught my attention in card games in general. I've been playing with Kykar as spellslinger/storm deck that focus winning by creating tokens and damage and sac the tokens for mana. But I brewed a fresh new Mizzix deck and I loved playing storm cards and X spells reducing the costs. Enjoyed a lot your video, explaining some concepts I didn't knew archetype. Thanks for your video, this is my favorite video about mtg now
This is such a helpful video! When Bloomburrow came out and i saw Alania i knew i needed to make an otter storm and it already kicks some ass, but this helps narrow down some card switches. Im so excited to get it out next gamenight and try to get a clunky win out of it lol
I have a cormela, glamour theif deck that started life as a storm deck….but because she’s busted beyond belief she turned into a combo deck. Still have the two storm cards in there as well as few of the other storm pieces that are relevant to the combo I’m trying to run tho.
Storm dexk work pretty well with Mizzix IMO, gets you great value cause you can storm off with expensive stuff that ends up costing a really low cost in the end, and you can cram some alternate win cond like big X spells. Also Sentinel tower is goated for it as you can easily wipe a board is just plain win through it. You can also past in flames and flashback for 2R which is great. But it is in no way a competitive deck...
I built a $50 budget mono green storm deck with Thrasta, Tempest's Roar. It uses cantrips, ramp, and 0 cost creatures to get Thrasta out as soon as turn 2 or 3. Then there are plenty of "draw equal to creatures power" cards to refill your hand. It becomes a storm deck when you have cards like beast whisperer and tangleroot; every time you play a 0 cost creature, you draw a card, and tangleroot gives you 1 green for each creature spell you cast. There is also a card called metamorphosis which lets you sac Thrasta to add 13 mana. I also added cards like regrowth to loop these important cards to basically go infinite. Storm finishers include aaeve , chatterstorm , and the 6 mana one that makes 4/4s
Nice! I'm a huge storm-style player, but my favorite wincons are centered around Prowess-like skills. I so much love digging for and finding the win conditions based on what I've set up and building "enterprise" style decks that build up these enablers the set up for a win con. Love it! Learning more about ways to use my ACTUAL Storm spells was really sick.
Storm is a fun archetype in EDH, and arguably *the* thing a competent, dedicated spellslinger deck would wanna be doing. Unfortunately my local meta is super casual and basically bans all storm cards.
this is a great video man I really reached a brewing block when coming up with a Naya (Dragon)Storm deck and this really helps clear up some issues I had while brewing.
This was enjoyable, thank you! I always enjoy trying to make a Storm deck work as a non-infinite combo; I enjoy the challenge of trying to find a way to win with whatever I draw. You’re right, it’s always a different path, always a different result. That is more rewarding, though far less reliable, than an A+B combo. My last real Storm deck was Cormela, and it was filled with untapped effects to maximize her mana production. It felt real good to Epic Experiment into Mind’s Desire into pretty much anything. Maybe I should put something back together…
Elfball is my favorite storm deck type! Marwyn or Raggadragga can consistently pop off and win by t4-5 (or t3 with fast mana and Cradle), but yeah being complete glass cannons puts a ceiling on the powerlevel. Yeva is also a fun elfball storm commander, slower max speed but maybe easier to find a window in a higher power table.
i decided to watch this video because it popped up just as im finishing my selesnya storm deck with the otj selvala in the command zone, and so i'm happy you mentioned her explicitly LOL, i found this very useful, thanks a bunch!
I'd love to hear your thoughts on Rowan, Scion of War. I built her specifically to play Dragonstorm, and I'm so excited for MH3's MDFCs just because I can bolt myself with a land drop. Loved the line about storming off at 1 life! Rakdos Storm, living on the edge!
I just built a Krark Sakashima deck and it is very fun to goldfish but tokens are an absolute must for floating mana, storm, and triggers. regularly squeezes out a win by turn 6
Yeah, I built one but it's kind of a headache to play. The fact that it's non-deterministic what happens on *every* cast just makes it take so much longer.
@@thetrinketmage it certainly is, I make sure to have a token for each trigger on the stack to make it all run smoother, even got heads/tails dice to easier move through resolving triggers, the hardest part is honestly passing priority and waiting for it to go around while trying to storm efficiently
When this video came out it convinced me to make a storm deck and I had my eyes on Ral Monsoon Mage, and recently I built that deck getting some of the cards I needed for black Friday I underestimated how fun goldfishing it would be, you are right, I can absolutely see myself doing that when bored And I wish there were enchantment tutors in Izzet because as good as the deathstar laser from Aetherflux is, multiplying damage by 2^6 followed by 2^7 lightning bolts with Thousand Year Storm, or making that many Guttersnipes and casting anything after it is just as fun, but comes up less
My favorite mechanic in this entire game. Some recommendations are Mizzix of the Izmagnus (traditional storm) Rakdos, Lord of Riots (creature based storm, get your group punishment effects in before hitting your enemies with tremors effects and if that's not enough drop eldrazi on them) Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy (Traditional storm but this time your opponents deck themselves) Narset, Enlightened Exile (a combination of traditional and creature based storm; amping your creatures numbers and size and with murmuration that's gonna result in some very wipable boardstates) Nekusar the Mindrazer (storm by nonconcensual mulligan)
I built a Rionya, fire dancer deck a year or so ago. It doesn't have cards with storm itself, but he idea is basically the same, cast a lot to exploit ETBs with Rionya's effect and similar cards. Now it's my favorite deck and i don't think any other can take that spot in the near future
I actually just started brewing a Eruth, Tormented Profet storm deck, which is why I watched this video. In my playtesting I sometimes just exile my entire library but drawing a kazillion cards is worth it!
Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain is the first commander I fell in love with, and now my favorite deck is an Orvar list that's midway between storm and combo. The goal is to go infinite with a loop but there isn't any tutor and the pieces can go in so many variations, I discover a new loop every time.
Arjun the Shifting Flame is my favorite storm deck. Every spell grabs you a new hand, and your win cons are things like Teferi's Tutelage, Locust God, and Niv-Mizzet.
My EDH storm deck is Blanka, Ferocious Friend Green is funny here because you can play Keen Sense on Blanka or any other pinger like Kessig Flamebreather to transform your cantrips into 1 mana draw 4 Also you can close games by commander damage in one hit But still with all of these, deck is too slow and fizzle easily XD
I have a Kykar storm deck, it's mostly artifacts, but there's cards like impact tremors to damage opponents when I cast noncreature spells. Mana boost from Kykar along with the red Ojer makes every ping 4 damage and grapeshot win comes much more achievable, even in commander. Good video as always, cheers.
Storm is fun and I really do enjoy seeing it with experienced players. My buddy built one and it was fun. I'm not sure I will build a direct storm deck, but I do have a couple "stormy" decks that can get there and have a payoff, but not usually a direct win.
I used to play a Kess storm deck which was nigh unbeatable in my playgroup. I recently made Geralf, the Fleshwright artifact storm, wiht paradoxical outcome, filter out etc. Its absolutely amazing
I think I have a yawgmoth "storm" deck, It does try to dig as deep as possible, and hopefully find pitless plunderer and similar to discount black mana, then play cheap creatures that make more creatures to sac them to draw more creatures to sac until it fizzles or drainy boi's get involved to present a win condition. Also, technically Bolas's Citadel + Yawgmoth is nondeterministic
I maintain a Kykar manual storm deck with Mind's Desire as one of its wincons. I say "maintain" because I don't really play it in pods most of the time, but it's so fun to goldfish, although it gets updated maybe once or twice a year. I have a storm-adjacent deck in 5c Omnath. It's not really storm per se, but when it hits a critical mass (which is really what storm is) of lands, it can chain spells into a massive X spell to win.
I have no idea how I am gonna make it, but this video has made we want to make a Jeskai Storm deck. Gonna try to see if Narset Enlightened Master can work. Thanks for the inspiration!
My absolute favorite storm moment was playing my Stella Lee burn/storm deck. In response to someone swinging 31 *unblockable* for lethal, I instead killed everyone else. I started by casting Complete the Circuit (VERY underrated imo) with Storm-Kiln Artist, Mechanized Warfare, Goblin Electromancer, and Guttersnipe on the field. Cast Volcanic Torrent (copied twice), which hit Electrostatic Field for good measure. Cast an Epic Experiment for a mere X=2 in response to the Volcanic Torrents and hit a cantrip, getting them to X=6, plus 1 off of Mechanized Warfare, times three, killing everything on the opponents' boards. Cast Dig Through Time, got some more fun spells. Game ended when, at the end of the turn, I cast Finale of Promise into Grapeshot for storm count *EIGHTEEN* . It would've been nineteen if I had read Finale of Promise correctly. Moral of the story: PLEASE play "spells have flash" effects in your storm decks, it's so funny. Also Storm-Kiln and Urabrask.
I really love my Jeskai Storm deck with Elsha of the infinate as a commander. Great colours and the ability to play non-creatures of the top is almost like a constant built in cantrip
My favorite storm deck is actually Imoti, its uses the commander to grant cascade to spells to generate value. But it shifts into to storm mode when given a clone or two of imoti, giving each spells more cascades. Cards like Ghalta have high cmc low cost to cast so are perfect, while simic has loads of untapped ramp to help recast these. There is 3 cards in the deck that when I cast spells i get to bounce a card, letting me replay my big spells again. Evenatually a 2.5 card combo of Invasion of arcavios plua 1 a bouncer will win the game as invasion etbs grabbing a extra turn spell, cast extra turn spell and trigger the bouncer to pic up invasion again. plus commander will let me infinitly cascade with nexus of fate to win. I have a £50 primer on this on moxfield, account is called foxtribal. TH-cam comments don't like links often tbh.
I see storm all the time! I play a Yidris consult deck as my main competitive deck. But it also has a mean backup manual storm option because of the cascade off a Yidris hit. Super hard to interact with too, because it really only folds to a windbreak trap or flusterstorm. Wins way more than it should
Krark/Sakashima is basically the premier storm deck in cEDH in the past few years. Storm has been less of a thing though because of tournaments and timed rounds.
I have a Syr Carah, The Brave edh deck, the idea was making it about burn but it turn into a great storm deck. But the thing I love is the fact that it may work or not. But its still quite fun.
Just in time for my Kykar Jeskai Storm build! Looking to win with stuff like Jeskai Ascendancy, Retraction Helix, Reservoir, Purphoros, definitely some haste enablers to swing with the big flyers, mostly red cantrips because Kykar’s ability cracks Spirit creatures for red… it’s kind of all over the place??? But this video made me feel way better about that. Thank you!
I know pods with multiple storm decks are painful, but damn there's few things that feel cooler than responding to a grapeshot with a quickened grapeshot.
In my experience Storm is a dangerous mechanic. I don't think that it's overpowered in Commander, but the problem that I see is a storm deck/player monopolizing time at the table. You sort of mentioned it near the end, and I'm glad that you mentioned goldfishing, because It's just awful to sit and watch someone play solitaire for 5+ minutes as they cast a cantrip, draw your new card, and then have to reconsider if that new card changes how you plan how you're gonna storm off.
"5 minutes" - I have seen players take turns that are an hour long or more. I think the guy in my playgroup who has the record has taken turns over 90 minutes on a few occasions when he's built new complicated combo decks. That includes rule discussions though :D
This is why I try not to play my Stella Lee deck too often, but GOD it's so satisfying when I do. It really does feel like solving a puzzle with any number of possible solutions.
I have a vilis broker of blood edh deck, and i brewed it with the intention to be a big mana ramp deck that won with exanguinate. It ended up being this weird combination of control, ramp, and storm. It's a lot of fun to play. I highly recommend people building him
I have a $50 seton, krosan protector deck. it's basically just elf tribal but the commander makes it storm a bit (rain elves?) seton obviously says tap druids but they're usually elves fun deck
I proxied a Ghryson Starn deck intending to be a group slug / burn deck, but during one of my EDH games, it ended up being a storm deck thanks to Mana Geyser gaining me about 25 mana. I eventually cast Grapeshot with a storm count of 14, but because I had Ghyrson out, I got to split 42 damange in chunks of 3. I ended up eliminating two players on one turn from that storm turn!
The new storm legend from Outlaws is awesome. Lilah plots any multicolored instants you cast. So your really important instants can stay in a mono color, but other than that you just have this big pile of free spells that people have to stare at with horror until you eventually say "alright guys"
@@nootnewt I traded for it at a draft with my buddies. All the cactus plant creatures were first on my list. I'm only missing Bill, by I got bristlebud from the same draft. But yeah, Lilah and the boros pay x legend were my other two I was fishing for. I did get all of them, also traded for calamity which is very exciting. Calamity with prototypes maybe was an idea I wanted to experiment with. Then maybe just artifact creatures and build around like modular artifact creatures or something. Since calamity states that you sacrifice the token, instead of what usually says exile it. Sacrificing the creature counts as the creature dying, so you can farm some CRAZY modular creatures and make giant evasive guys. Steel hellkite could be a good option to modular onto y'know.
i would honestly recommend this heavy amount of goldfishing for almost any deck. it helps so much if you know the ins and outs of your deck, and-ESPECIALLY if you make a lot of tokens or some strange specific mechanic-figuring out how you notate your boardstate is so important. (tangent below) i have a ghoulcaller gisa deck i play often, and frequent goldfishing really helped me figure out how i should note how many zombie tokens i have. this was important because i could be swinging with 7 and making another 12 on the same turn. those kinds of things would only come up during play unless you find them out beforehand
it's neat being a current day Magic player and seeing things like Storm and Affinity be fair mechanics that I think should get more cards printed with them
Wizards: "We are almost definitely never doing Storm again." Also Wizards: "Did you guys like the last set where we included pseudo-Storm? Well, check out this next set, where we include pseudo-Storm!"
Bit late to this particular party, but my go-to deck is a Narset Prowess deck, cause that's been my favourite mechanic since Tarkir. Subsequently, the deck plays like a storm deck (though I don't run any rituals, instead I have creatures like Birgi and Strom-Kiln Artist to keep things fuelled) as I try and cast as much as I can so I can take out the board with hypercharged creatures. It's ultimately a bit combo-y, because the plan is more or less "Okay, got some stuff to start spinning, let's see if I can get all the pieces I need to infinite", but even then unless I have trample or token generation, it can put me in a situation where I have a handful of infinite-power creatures and no way to actually win with them. Which is honestly just funny when that happens.
The majority of my time spent playing cedh was on shimmer zur, a deck revolving primarily around manual artifact storming on the end step. Most people have shifted off of storming in zur for more slot efficient wincons now though q.q Wish minds desire was anything but a niche Ydris card, but storm works alright in historic, or at least it works well enough for me to enjoy it still.
only storm deck I've built so far was with Arjun, the shifting flame. It still need some work but not only is it extra budget, Arjun makes it way more unpredictable but also very reliable (you can get away with lower enablers/rituals density just because you're churning throufh your deck like there's no tomorrow) you also have access to alternative payoffs based on cards drawn so that helps with bustet too
I have a spells deck with [Kess, Dissident Mage] in Grixis colours. It sort of storms off, but really just wants to play many spells and trigger [Firebrand Archer] type effects ("when you cast a non-creature spell, this deals 1 damage to each opp". There's [Thousand Year Storm], and some rituals, many draw spells, and a Ring tempt sub-theme for Sauron etc to draw a bunch more. I should put Dramatic Reversal in to plonk under Isochron Scepter. My other stormish deck is [Aragorn, The Uniter], so that I can put besties Ivy and Feather together at last. All the cantrips in these colours which target creatures are amazing, especially with Aragorn's cast triggers buffing, pinging, scrying, and making tokens.
Atm I’m building a taii wakeen pseudo storm (or reverse storm as I like to think of it it) deck where the finisher is pumping her ability then casting a ton of pinging cantrips for massive damage to the whole table. This really helped conceptualizing the missing pieces
Prosper Profits! Prosper tomebound casting from exile with storm kiln and xorn, urabrask, birgi, mvp charforger.. win cons usually include grapeshot or arcane bombardment value with professor onyx, aetherflux, or go the money spending route to win off a fizzle with a Judith fling or dragonspark reactor, passionate archeologist also ticks down the clock as you cast through your deck!
I own a mono W mavinda storm deck, it feels a little bit like a feathers deck. You are running nearly every single cantrip in white you can get your dirty hands on, even some of the real bad ones. (Formation, my beloved). Unlike feather however, you are (most of the time), not wining through commander damage or combat, and all of your cantrips has a limitation of max two times, so you have to be quite careful when to spend your precious spells in the graveyard, as you want to use them to draw, but you also want to save enough of them to exicute some of your wincons (aetherflux or show of confidence for example.) However, the plus side of the deck is as you are running most cantrips in the history of the game, you have effectively 40+ interaction spells, making your gameplan increadablly interactive, tapping down people's creature draw, protection spell draw, or even the occasion of redirecting deathtouch damage from one creature to the other, it is quite joyous to run. For the players that enjoys storm and are wanting to seek some fun in mono W with a varity different wins all in a bag (flux for traditional storm, show of confidence/walls for voltron supprise win, approach for "combo", mentor for go wide... etc), mavinda is a underrated commander that I would always reconmend.
I have a Reki deck (inspired by Dana Roach from EDHRECast) that is effectively a mono green creature storm deck. It's like Selvala brostorm but less explosive. Not a real storm deck, of course, but it functions similarly. Super fun.
I have a Etali storm deck. The deck is essentially ramp and every copy effect that can be played in gruul. Then I use his trigger for the stormcount and hope to hit copy effects or a storm card in mine. It’s surprisingly strong even tho there are very little traditionally powerful cards in the deck.
Tldr storm draws a lot of cards and you can find cards that trigger on draw. I've been making a flubs the fool deck where my card draw is built in the commander. I was trying to figure out a storm payoff and wanted to put in psychosis crawler but that seemed too clunky because I would have to modify it so it wouldn't die when I had no cards for that split second before I draw my next card. I decided to look if there were any other cards that trigger off of drawing cards and there are a bunch, mostly with a mill pay off like psychic corrosion. I think I found some more win cons to put in the deck.
Storm is my favorite concept, I think green is actually the best storm color in edh because it makes mana and has easier card draw then even blue. Seton krosan protector creature storm is so good.
Damn, and I'm kinda working on a Storm deck too. Building Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain and building her as an Artifact Storm with cheap artifacts. Realizing I may need a copy of KCI now for the deck. But I want to win by having a Reckless Fireweaver out or something like it, to burn my opponents whenever I cast my artifacts. Maybe my backup wincon will be the good ol Laboratory Maniac win. I tried a Storm deck a few years ago with the Izzet precon from Strixhaven with Ignite Memories/Grapeshot as the wincon. Didn't like it too much though, but wanted to give Storm another try with Jhoira.
Storm scale is actually for standard legal sets. That's why storm still pops up in MH and EDH precons
Wish I saw this before making my comment but at least I know I'm right. Thanks! lol
Cool thing I just learned recently about aetherflux, you can actually hold priority on the gain life trigger and respond to it by casting more spells; the amount of life gained isn’t checked until resolution of the ability. So, for example, if you’re going to cast 5 spells into your aetherflux, instead of the life gain looking like 1+2+3+4+5, if you hold priority on each of the triggers , and cast instants on top of them, your life gain would look like 5+5+5+5+5.
I actually never knew that! Very cool tech
@@thetrinketmage edit: this is incorrect: the same is true for actual storm spells, you can hold priority on the storm trigger, start casting other spells, and they'll be counted when the storm ability eventually resolves (they wont. end of edit) .
The best tip i have based on years of manual storming in cEDH is to never fully resolve mind's desire. always leave the original on the stack. If you didn't exile a bounce spell effect (narset, remand), one of your draw spells might still find one, opening the possibility for tripple minds desire if you also have access to flashback.
also, great content 👍 thanks!
@ghvtrf I'm going back to Izzet guild because new possibilities have been opened in my mind thanks to all three of you (the person I replied to, OP, and Trinket Mage).
@@ghvtrf doesn’t the reminder text says it counts spells "cast before [the spell with storm] this turn,"?
So casting another spell in response won't affect your storm count for that spell?
@@2trixs you are indeed correct. i always interpreted the "it" as referring to the storm ability resolving but never looked up the rulings. i will edit my comment.
Fun fact with Aetherflux.
If you're storming with instants, you can respond to the Aetherflux triggers to play more spells. So if you play 5 spells, rather then gaining 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 life, your gain 5 life 5 times.
Hmmm, that's actually a neat trick. I learn something new everyday.
Thats brilliant!
That's legit
May you explain this a little bit better I’m not quite followinh
@@simplysage3562 So basically, Aetherflux only checks how many spells have been cast when it's resolving its trigger, not when you trigger it.
If you have an Aetherflux trigger on the stack already, then you cast another spell, you'd create a new Aetherflux trigger, but you're also "updating" the amounts of spells cast this turn. Aetherflux uses the updated spells cast number, not the original number.
Thank you for this!! I tried making Alania, Divergent Storm into a storm deck but my friend taught me how to use incremental value spells that aren't exactly storm related
I literally just built this, friends and I did 50 dollar decks. I went for a kykar deck where the idea is to cantrip like 8-10 little one and two mana spells, then play something like ignite memories or minds desire. Mizzix’s mastery is also INSANE.
A FELLOW MIZZIX'S MASTERY APPRECIATOR.
You should also give Complete the Circuit a try, ESPECIALLY with all the little dorks you can tap for convoke!
MIZZIXS MASTERY GOES SO HARD IN MY RAL DECK
When I started playing a year and a half ago, I made my first deck whit the idea "I want to make a mage deck that focus on casting instants and sorceries to go boom", without knowing much about magic I made an Mizzix of the Ismagnus deck entire focused on X spells. It is not exactly a storm deck but the sensation of playing it looks like one, sometimes I just acidentally causes the entire board to suffer 1000 damage of a fireball copied 50 times... Or I just fizzle to oblivion because I didn't known how to make proper decks lol
I love to build and play storm decks. My friends don't like when I build and play storm decks. I don't build and play storm decks very often.
Your explanation resonates with my experience with an Izzet deck back when "Thousand Year Storm" was standard-legal. It didn't win often (I'm not great at building decks), but when it did it was so exciting. The unpredictability was a big part of my enjoyment of the deck.
Thousand Year Storm is such a cool card. I actually have it in my Zaffai, Thunder Conductor deck. It pairs super well with Storm-Kiln artist. The more instants and sorceries you cast, the more treasures you make and the more treasures you make, the more instants and sorceries you can cast.
One of my favorite decks I built years ago was an attempt at a super low budget Storm Deck using Elsha of the Infinite, Cost Reducers + Top Deck Maninpulation + Elsha means I am casting 50+ artifacts in one turn, combine that with mass bounce spells and I can cast well over 120 spells in 1 turn, Elsha also has the added benefit of Prowess to function as a backup win con if I cannot get a high enough count to triple kill and have to settle for two or Commander Damaging out a Lifegain deck. Thanks to reprints over the years cards like Grapeshot and the Talismans have helped the deck stay incredibly cheap and give it a little more power
I love storm, gotta be my favorite archetype by far. My favorite deck has to be Kess though I have many others I love. Nothing beats the feeling of using that change of fortune twice in a turn or being able to cheat out a displacer kitten mid storm by just reanimating it because grixis is busted. And for that deck its simultaneously card draw and ramp since I can either blink a rock or Kess herself to create a pseudo past in flames.
Yess Kess! Mine runs displacer kitten, and Chancellor of the Spires.....
= cast every instant/sorcery in my opponents GY.... Ppl tend to scoop when you do it a second time (since it doesn't exile the spells)
@@drew-id Dude that combo is sick lol haven't seen that before
I definitely need to put that in the deck
Storm is the best concept in Magic
I have high tide storm, artifact storm, untap creature storm, Zada creature storm and multiple cantrip decks
have you heard of krark the thumbless
Not me coming back to this video after the Storm, Force of Nature reveal
I shall now stay awake for another 20 minutes
Storm play tip: plan your turn out before you cast any spells. I generally like to have a plan for every card in my hand including the order in which I cast them. It can also be good to have a sense of what effects you’re hoping to draw.
My Magnus the Red EDH deck has my favorite pesudo-storm card I've found so far in it: Sorcerer Class. It just deals escalating damage to the entire table one turns when im cranking out spells- which, with Buyback spells like Haze of Rage, and cost reducers like Magnus himself or Minsplice, it can get out of hand VERY quickly. I also pack a single copy of Empty the Warrens for emergencies.
This sounds perfect for the Toshiro Umezawa deck ive been cooking up. Ill be sure to add a lot more storm cards into that.
I love Storm in Magic and loved Miracle Rogue back in pre-standard Hearthstone. Got two different variants of Stella Lee. The more powerful version plays like Storm until the combo finish, usually by turn 4 if not interacted with. The second one is just basically Storm; winning with stuff like Guttersnipe. Stella allows you to turn a treasure generating card into a mana positive especially with cost reducers or get that extra card draw from a cantrip. Many ways to use her to turn a fizzle into a win. Have been thinking of turning the more casual version into a spell copy theme deck however for extra shenanigans.
I just finished a birgi storm list. Taught some friends who didn't know what storm was all about storm really fast.
honey the trinket mage is back, stop what you're doing
you joke- but as I woke up this morning I saw this video and said to my partner I had business to attend to :]
lmao he knows his priorities@@Ox7moron
I recently brewed a Rakdos, the muscle storm deck aimed at high power/cedh and it works quite well. Of course it fails to interaction that removes your commander but you also are almost guaranteed to go through your deck and find your wincons if you untap with your commander and some mana. It's very satisfying to play as you see the pieces comming together until there's no way you can miss.
This inspired me to try my hand at building an edh storm deck. Haven't tested it in a real game yet, but the deck building process has been really fun
I have a Kogla deck that is essentially Monogreen Storm. He bounces a human for 1G, so any human that goes mana positive (there are a lot) allows infinite casts. From there, ETB triggers usually draw my whole deck while generating infinite mana. The list is on TappedOut as King Kong Combo if anyone is interested. It's fairly cheap if you cut from Aluren and The Great Henge (which aren't strictly necessary anyway).
this sounds awesome, I knew the big monke had it in him. I was interested to build him as my mono green commander (I eventually went with Mowu, but that turned out to be quite boring for my liking)
Zada storm is by far my favorite deck, I run a super budget version, it began as a combat matters with millions of tokens and evolved into a storm combo deck with various wincons, even mid game I discover new forms of winning, god I love that deck!
edit: in my channel you can find the link to my moxfield profile
Zada can be a super threatening commander even on a budget!
ooh! do you have a decklist?
Would love to see the decklist! Trying to buy a storm deck in the future and love mono red
@@erdete2733 search for Glive in moxfield, I'll make the deck public
@@deswide search for Glive in moxfield, I'll make the deck public
Funny enough this ended up in my feed right around the time I was considering building a storm deck lol.
I've now done so and have been having a blast storming off with the new Ral from MH3!
I had a Rike of Two Reflections deck back in the day. Doubling Rude Awakening, Turnabout, Early Harvest and Mana Geyser was a lot of mana.
I have a Birgi deck I generally refer to as spellslinger burn (because there's no actual storm card in it. No aetherflux, either) that I think fits the bill. All it does is ramp, impulse, and Guttersnipe.
This is inspiring!
I am probably going to build some sort of Grixis storm with Kess, so that I dont bother with too much planning. Lots of rituals + land untaps.
Go for it!
I have a psuedo Storm deck with my Omanth Locus of the Roil spellslinger/ramp deck, and it's an absolute blast to play. The main game plan is to use ramp effects that draw cards and put lands into play like Explore and Growth spiral to ramp and dig into the deck to eventually cast a huge X cost spell like Crackle with Power or Comet Storm, even Doppelgang is crazy in the deck to win. But it does and can with casting my cantrip ramp while Thousand Year Storm is in play and killing people with 40 copies of Lightning Bolt. I love the deck so much
That sounds really fun, I would love to take a look at your list if you have it uploaded online!
Storm is also my favorite archetype in Magic and mostly decks I build, I do thinking about spellslinger and storm. Buying and casting a lot of spells is the vibe that caught my attention in card games in general. I've been playing with Kykar as spellslinger/storm deck that focus winning by creating tokens and damage and sac the tokens for mana. But I brewed a fresh new Mizzix deck and I loved playing storm cards and X spells reducing the costs.
Enjoyed a lot your video, explaining some concepts I didn't knew archetype. Thanks for your video, this is my favorite video about mtg now
This is such a helpful video! When Bloomburrow came out and i saw Alania i knew i needed to make an otter storm and it already kicks some ass, but this helps narrow down some card switches. Im so excited to get it out next gamenight and try to get a clunky win out of it lol
I have a cormela, glamour theif deck that started life as a storm deck….but because she’s busted beyond belief she turned into a combo deck. Still have the two storm cards in there as well as few of the other storm pieces that are relevant to the combo I’m trying to run tho.
Storm dexk work pretty well with Mizzix IMO, gets you great value cause you can storm off with expensive stuff that ends up costing a really low cost in the end, and you can cram some alternate win cond like big X spells. Also Sentinel tower is goated for it as you can easily wipe a board is just plain win through it. You can also past in flames and flashback for 2R which is great.
But it is in no way a competitive deck...
I built a $50 budget mono green storm deck with Thrasta, Tempest's Roar. It uses cantrips, ramp, and 0 cost creatures to get Thrasta out as soon as turn 2 or 3. Then there are plenty of "draw equal to creatures power" cards to refill your hand.
It becomes a storm deck when you have cards like beast whisperer and tangleroot; every time you play a 0 cost creature, you draw a card, and tangleroot gives you 1 green for each creature spell you cast. There is also a card called metamorphosis which lets you sac Thrasta to add 13 mana. I also added cards like regrowth to loop these important cards to basically go infinite.
Storm finishers include aaeve , chatterstorm , and the 6 mana one that makes 4/4s
Nice! I'm a huge storm-style player, but my favorite wincons are centered around Prowess-like skills. I so much love digging for and finding the win conditions based on what I've set up and building "enterprise" style decks that build up these enablers the set up for a win con. Love it! Learning more about ways to use my ACTUAL Storm spells was really sick.
Storm is a fun archetype in EDH, and arguably *the* thing a competent, dedicated spellslinger deck would wanna be doing. Unfortunately my local meta is super casual and basically bans all storm cards.
I just put together a mono green storm deck with six, this video has given me a couple cards I missed. Thanks!
The new six from MH3?
this is a great video man I really reached a brewing block when coming up with a Naya (Dragon)Storm deck and this really helps clear up some issues I had while brewing.
I’m glad this helped!
This was enjoyable, thank you! I always enjoy trying to make a Storm deck work as a non-infinite combo; I enjoy the challenge of trying to find a way to win with whatever I draw. You’re right, it’s always a different path, always a different result. That is more rewarding, though far less reliable, than an A+B combo.
My last real Storm deck was Cormela, and it was filled with untapped effects to maximize her mana production. It felt real good to Epic Experiment into Mind’s Desire into pretty much anything. Maybe I should put something back together…
Elfball is my favorite storm deck type! Marwyn or Raggadragga can consistently pop off and win by t4-5 (or t3 with fast mana and Cradle), but yeah being complete glass cannons puts a ceiling on the powerlevel. Yeva is also a fun elfball storm commander, slower max speed but maybe easier to find a window in a higher power table.
i decided to watch this video because it popped up just as im finishing my selesnya storm deck with the otj selvala in the command zone, and so i'm happy you mentioned her explicitly LOL, i found this very useful, thanks a bunch!
Just finished a new red storm deck with the new Ashling at the helm. This video was very helpful.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on Rowan, Scion of War. I built her specifically to play Dragonstorm, and I'm so excited for MH3's MDFCs just because I can bolt myself with a land drop.
Loved the line about storming off at 1 life! Rakdos Storm, living on the edge!
Rowan is a really powerful storm option and I think she can be really fun! Though the decks are usually too all in for my taste
I've been hyped for Ashling, Flame Dancer as she seems optomized for spell slinging and storming off. Perfect timing for this video!
my favorite storm commander is niv mizzet parun, i know hes expensive to cast and a very threatening commander, but i just love using him
Literally started building a Jund storm list for EDH yesterday, perfect timing for your video sir!
I'm glad I found this video because I want to build a storm deck around Ashling, Flame Dancer because I liked the character when Lorwyn was around.
I just built a Krark Sakashima deck and it is very fun to goldfish but tokens are an absolute must for floating mana, storm, and triggers. regularly squeezes out a win by turn 6
That deck is very cool but also tedious to actually use irl
Yeah, I built one but it's kind of a headache to play. The fact that it's non-deterministic what happens on *every* cast just makes it take so much longer.
@@thetrinketmage it certainly is, I make sure to have a token for each trigger on the stack to make it all run smoother, even got heads/tails dice to easier move through resolving triggers, the hardest part is honestly passing priority and waiting for it to go around while trying to storm efficiently
Same, I have what my pod calls the "UI" which includes a bunch of tracking tokens so I can empty my mental stack into physical objects.
When this video came out it convinced me to make a storm deck and I had my eyes on Ral Monsoon Mage, and recently I built that deck getting some of the cards I needed for black Friday
I underestimated how fun goldfishing it would be, you are right, I can absolutely see myself doing that when bored
And I wish there were enchantment tutors in Izzet because as good as the deathstar laser from Aetherflux is, multiplying damage by 2^6 followed by 2^7 lightning bolts with Thousand Year Storm, or making that many Guttersnipes and casting anything after it is just as fun, but comes up less
My favorite mechanic in this entire game. Some recommendations are
Mizzix of the Izmagnus (traditional storm)
Rakdos, Lord of Riots (creature based storm, get your group punishment effects in before hitting your enemies with tremors effects and if that's not enough drop eldrazi on them)
Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy (Traditional storm but this time your opponents deck themselves)
Narset, Enlightened Exile (a combination of traditional and creature based storm; amping your creatures numbers and size and with murmuration that's gonna result in some very wipable boardstates)
Nekusar the Mindrazer (storm by nonconcensual mulligan)
I built a Rionya, fire dancer deck a year or so ago. It doesn't have cards with storm itself, but he idea is basically the same, cast a lot to exploit ETBs with Rionya's effect and similar cards. Now it's my favorite deck and i don't think any other can take that spot in the near future
I actually just started brewing a Eruth, Tormented Profet storm deck, which is why I watched this video. In my playtesting I sometimes just exile my entire library but drawing a kazillion cards is worth it!
As a Lotus field combo player in Pioneer I recommend gettung an app with a mana counter built in. Much easier that dice.
Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain is the first commander I fell in love with, and now my favorite deck is an Orvar list that's midway between storm and combo. The goal is to go infinite with a loop but there isn't any tutor and the pieces can go in so many variations, I discover a new loop every time.
Arjun the Shifting Flame is my favorite storm deck. Every spell grabs you a new hand, and your win cons are things like Teferi's Tutelage, Locust God, and Niv-Mizzet.
Trying to make a low-ish budget Vadrik, Astral Archmage Storm deck and this gave me a ton of helpful insights
My EDH storm deck is Blanka, Ferocious Friend
Green is funny here because you can play Keen Sense on Blanka or any other pinger like Kessig Flamebreather to transform your cantrips into 1 mana draw 4
Also you can close games by commander damage in one hit
But still with all of these, deck is too slow and fizzle easily XD
Oh interesting I’ve never heard of playing Blanka like that
I have a Kykar storm deck, it's mostly artifacts, but there's cards like impact tremors to damage opponents when I cast noncreature spells. Mana boost from Kykar along with the red Ojer makes every ping 4 damage and grapeshot win comes much more achievable, even in commander. Good video as always, cheers.
Storm is fun and I really do enjoy seeing it with experienced players. My buddy built one and it was fun. I'm not sure I will build a direct storm deck, but I do have a couple "stormy" decks that can get there and have a payoff, but not usually a direct win.
new ruby storm is making waves in modern! storm is back baby!!
I know it’s pretty awesome! I’m very hyped to try the deck out
@@thetrinketmage ral shot up in price lol, the deck is so cool tho!
@@thetrinketmagealso do you have a discord? you're an awesome creator who id love to be in a discord with!
@@xLochNessie I do, but it's for patrons only. It's $2 to join the discord. Link is in the description
Im bulit and tuning my flip Ral
I used to play a Kess storm deck which was nigh unbeatable in my playgroup. I recently made Geralf, the Fleshwright artifact storm, wiht paradoxical outcome, filter out etc. Its absolutely amazing
I think I have a yawgmoth "storm" deck,
It does try to dig as deep as possible, and hopefully find pitless plunderer and similar to discount black mana, then play cheap creatures that make more creatures to sac them to draw more creatures to sac until it fizzles or drainy boi's get involved to present a win condition.
Also, technically Bolas's Citadel + Yawgmoth is nondeterministic
I maintain a Kykar manual storm deck with Mind's Desire as one of its wincons. I say "maintain" because I don't really play it in pods most of the time, but it's so fun to goldfish, although it gets updated maybe once or twice a year.
I have a storm-adjacent deck in 5c Omnath. It's not really storm per se, but when it hits a critical mass (which is really what storm is) of lands, it can chain spells into a massive X spell to win.
If you had a list for your Kykar deck I'd love to see it! I'm in the process of building a Kykar deck atm
I have no idea how I am gonna make it, but this video has made we want to make a Jeskai Storm deck. Gonna try to see if Narset Enlightened Master can work. Thanks for the inspiration!
My absolute favorite storm moment was playing my Stella Lee burn/storm deck. In response to someone swinging 31 *unblockable* for lethal, I instead killed everyone else.
I started by casting Complete the Circuit (VERY underrated imo) with Storm-Kiln Artist, Mechanized Warfare, Goblin Electromancer, and Guttersnipe on the field. Cast Volcanic Torrent (copied twice), which hit Electrostatic Field for good measure. Cast an Epic Experiment for a mere X=2 in response to the Volcanic Torrents and hit a cantrip, getting them to X=6, plus 1 off of Mechanized Warfare, times three, killing everything on the opponents' boards. Cast Dig Through Time, got some more fun spells. Game ended when, at the end of the turn, I cast Finale of Promise into Grapeshot for storm count *EIGHTEEN* . It would've been nineteen if I had read Finale of Promise correctly.
Moral of the story: PLEASE play "spells have flash" effects in your storm decks, it's so funny. Also Storm-Kiln and Urabrask.
I really love my Jeskai Storm deck with Elsha of the infinate as a commander. Great colours and the ability to play non-creatures of the top is almost like a constant built in cantrip
My favorite storm deck is actually Imoti, its uses the commander to grant cascade to spells to generate value. But it shifts into to storm mode when given a clone or two of imoti, giving each spells more cascades. Cards like Ghalta have high cmc low cost to cast so are perfect, while simic has loads of untapped ramp to help recast these. There is 3 cards in the deck that when I cast spells i get to bounce a card, letting me replay my big spells again. Evenatually a 2.5 card combo of Invasion of arcavios plua 1 a bouncer will win the game as invasion etbs grabbing a extra turn spell, cast extra turn spell and trigger the bouncer to pic up invasion again. plus commander will let me infinitly cascade with nexus of fate to win. I have a £50 primer on this on moxfield, account is called foxtribal. TH-cam comments don't like links often tbh.
I see storm all the time! I play a Yidris consult deck as my main competitive deck. But it also has a mean backup manual storm option because of the cascade off a Yidris hit. Super hard to interact with too, because it really only folds to a windbreak trap or flusterstorm. Wins way more than it should
Krark/Sakashima is basically the premier storm deck in cEDH in the past few years. Storm has been less of a thing though because of tournaments and timed rounds.
I have a Syr Carah, The Brave edh deck, the idea was making it about burn but it turn into a great storm deck.
But the thing I love is the fact that it may work or not. But its still quite fun.
Just in time for my Kykar Jeskai Storm build! Looking to win with stuff like Jeskai Ascendancy, Retraction Helix, Reservoir, Purphoros, definitely some haste enablers to swing with the big flyers, mostly red cantrips because Kykar’s ability cracks Spirit creatures for red… it’s kind of all over the place??? But this video made me feel way better about that. Thank you!
I know pods with multiple storm decks are painful, but damn there's few things that feel cooler than responding to a grapeshot with a quickened grapeshot.
In my experience Storm is a dangerous mechanic. I don't think that it's overpowered in Commander, but the problem that I see is a storm deck/player monopolizing time at the table. You sort of mentioned it near the end, and I'm glad that you mentioned goldfishing, because It's just awful to sit and watch someone play solitaire for 5+ minutes as they cast a cantrip, draw your new card, and then have to reconsider if that new card changes how you plan how you're gonna storm off.
"5 minutes" - I have seen players take turns that are an hour long or more. I think the guy in my playgroup who has the record has taken turns over 90 minutes on a few occasions when he's built new complicated combo decks. That includes rule discussions though :D
This is why I try not to play my Stella Lee deck too often, but GOD it's so satisfying when I do. It really does feel like solving a puzzle with any number of possible solutions.
I have a vilis broker of blood edh deck, and i brewed it with the intention to be a big mana ramp deck that won with exanguinate. It ended up being this weird combination of control, ramp, and storm. It's a lot of fun to play. I highly recommend people building him
I have a $50 seton, krosan protector deck. it's basically just elf tribal but the commander makes it storm a bit (rain elves?)
seton obviously says tap druids but they're usually elves
fun deck
Elf ball and storm have a lot of overlap. Almost made a section talking about it but decided that was too much of a side tangent
I proxied a Ghryson Starn deck intending to be a group slug / burn deck, but during one of my EDH games, it ended up being a storm deck thanks to Mana Geyser gaining me about 25 mana. I eventually cast Grapeshot with a storm count of 14, but because I had Ghyrson out, I got to split 42 damange in chunks of 3. I ended up eliminating two players on one turn from that storm turn!
The new storm legend from Outlaws is awesome. Lilah plots any multicolored instants you cast. So your really important instants can stay in a mono color, but other than that you just have this big pile of free spells that people have to stare at with horror until you eventually say "alright guys"
That's terrifying and I love it
@@nootnewt I traded for it at a draft with my buddies. All the cactus plant creatures were first on my list. I'm only missing Bill, by I got bristlebud from the same draft. But yeah, Lilah and the boros pay x legend were my other two I was fishing for. I did get all of them, also traded for calamity which is very exciting. Calamity with prototypes maybe was an idea I wanted to experiment with. Then maybe just artifact creatures and build around like modular artifact creatures or something. Since calamity states that you sacrifice the token, instead of what usually says exile it. Sacrificing the creature counts as the creature dying, so you can farm some CRAZY modular creatures and make giant evasive guys. Steel hellkite could be a good option to modular onto y'know.
@@xaeoxic7328 gonna need a decklist sometime
i would honestly recommend this heavy amount of goldfishing for almost any deck. it helps so much if you know the ins and outs of your deck, and-ESPECIALLY if you make a lot of tokens or some strange specific mechanic-figuring out how you notate your boardstate is so important. (tangent below)
i have a ghoulcaller gisa deck i play often, and frequent goldfishing really helped me figure out how i should note how many zombie tokens i have. this was important because i could be swinging with 7 and making another 12 on the same turn. those kinds of things would only come up during play unless you find them out beforehand
it's neat being a current day Magic player and seeing things like Storm and Affinity be fair mechanics that I think should get more cards printed with them
Wizards: "We are almost definitely never doing Storm again."
Also Wizards: "Did you guys like the last set where we included pseudo-Storm? Well, check out this next set, where we include pseudo-Storm!"
You can use remand to return a card with storm back to your hand while it's on the stack to be able to recast it.
I love playing storm decks - probably my most favorite strategy in MTG EDH. Forming lines on the spot to win the game 😆.
Bit late to this particular party, but my go-to deck is a Narset Prowess deck, cause that's been my favourite mechanic since Tarkir.
Subsequently, the deck plays like a storm deck (though I don't run any rituals, instead I have creatures like Birgi and Strom-Kiln Artist to keep things fuelled) as I try and cast as much as I can so I can take out the board with hypercharged creatures.
It's ultimately a bit combo-y, because the plan is more or less "Okay, got some stuff to start spinning, let's see if I can get all the pieces I need to infinite", but even then unless I have trample or token generation, it can put me in a situation where I have a handful of infinite-power creatures and no way to actually win with them. Which is honestly just funny when that happens.
Thank you, ive been sotting on my kykar dexk wanting to move away from just tokens to something like storm but jist needed the push of motivation
The majority of my time spent playing cedh was on shimmer zur, a deck revolving primarily around manual artifact storming on the end step. Most people have shifted off of storming in zur for more slot efficient wincons now though q.q Wish minds desire was anything but a niche Ydris card, but storm works alright in historic, or at least it works well enough for me to enjoy it still.
Just finished building my Urabrask/The Great Work pinger/storm deck
only storm deck I've built so far was with Arjun, the shifting flame. It still need some work but not only is it extra budget, Arjun makes it way more unpredictable but also very reliable (you can get away with lower enablers/rituals density just because you're churning throufh your deck like there's no tomorrow)
you also have access to alternative payoffs based on cards drawn so that helps with bustet too
I have a spells deck with [Kess, Dissident Mage] in Grixis colours. It sort of storms off, but really just wants to play many spells and trigger [Firebrand Archer] type effects ("when you cast a non-creature spell, this deals 1 damage to each opp". There's [Thousand Year Storm], and some rituals, many draw spells, and a Ring tempt sub-theme for Sauron etc to draw a bunch more.
I should put Dramatic Reversal in to plonk under Isochron Scepter.
My other stormish deck is [Aragorn, The Uniter], so that I can put besties Ivy and Feather together at last. All the cantrips in these colours which target creatures are amazing, especially with Aragorn's cast triggers buffing, pinging, scrying, and making tokens.
Atm I’m building a taii wakeen pseudo storm (or reverse storm as I like to think of it it) deck where the finisher is pumping her ability then casting a ton of pinging cantrips for massive damage to the whole table. This really helped conceptualizing the missing pieces
The fact that the new Bloomburrow Izzet Planeswalker gives all Instants and Sorceries you cast Storm is insane
Prosper Profits! Prosper tomebound casting from exile with storm kiln and xorn, urabrask, birgi, mvp charforger.. win cons usually include grapeshot or arcane bombardment value with professor onyx, aetherflux, or go the money spending route to win off a fizzle with a Judith fling or dragonspark reactor, passionate archeologist also ticks down the clock as you cast through your deck!
I own a mono W mavinda storm deck, it feels a little bit like a feathers deck. You are running nearly every single cantrip in white you can get your dirty hands on, even some of the real bad ones. (Formation, my beloved). Unlike feather however, you are (most of the time), not wining through commander damage or combat, and all of your cantrips has a limitation of max two times, so you have to be quite careful when to spend your precious spells in the graveyard, as you want to use them to draw, but you also want to save enough of them to exicute some of your wincons (aetherflux or show of confidence for example.)
However, the plus side of the deck is as you are running most cantrips in the history of the game, you have effectively 40+ interaction spells, making your gameplan increadablly interactive, tapping down people's creature draw, protection spell draw, or even the occasion of redirecting deathtouch damage from one creature to the other, it is quite joyous to run.
For the players that enjoys storm and are wanting to seek some fun in mono W with a varity different wins all in a bag (flux for traditional storm, show of confidence/walls for voltron supprise win, approach for "combo", mentor for go wide... etc), mavinda is a underrated commander that I would always reconmend.
I have a toluz storm/control deck I've been cooking, this video might make me actually assemble it
I have a Reki deck (inspired by Dana Roach from EDHRECast) that is effectively a mono green creature storm deck. It's like Selvala brostorm but less explosive. Not a real storm deck, of course, but it functions similarly. Super fun.
Ghyrson Starn is my storm commander. Nowhere near my best deck, but storming and pew pewing everything is very satisfying when it does go off.
I have a Etali storm deck. The deck is essentially ramp and every copy effect that can be played in gruul. Then I use his trigger for the stormcount and hope to hit copy effects or a storm card in mine. It’s surprisingly strong even tho there are very little traditionally powerful cards in the deck.
Storm is by far my favorite archetype in MTG. I have 5-8 storm decks I'm building for EDH.
Watching because a new storm commander came out STORM 👀
Tldr storm draws a lot of cards and you can find cards that trigger on draw. I've been making a flubs the fool deck where my card draw is built in the commander. I was trying to figure out a storm payoff and wanted to put in psychosis crawler but that seemed too clunky because I would have to modify it so it wouldn't die when I had no cards for that split second before I draw my next card. I decided to look if there were any other cards that trigger off of drawing cards and there are a bunch, mostly with a mill pay off like psychic corrosion. I think I found some more win cons to put in the deck.
Storm is my favorite concept, I think green is actually the best storm color in edh because it makes mana and has easier card draw then even blue. Seton krosan protector creature storm is so good.
Damn, and I'm kinda working on a Storm deck too. Building Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain and building her as an Artifact Storm with cheap artifacts. Realizing I may need a copy of KCI now for the deck. But I want to win by having a Reckless Fireweaver out or something like it, to burn my opponents whenever I cast my artifacts. Maybe my backup wincon will be the good ol Laboratory Maniac win. I tried a Storm deck a few years ago with the Izzet precon from Strixhaven with Ignite Memories/Grapeshot as the wincon. Didn't like it too much though, but wanted to give Storm another try with Jhoira.
If you look up some of the old KCI combos for modern there are a few loops you can do and use those as win cons