I just got my live scope and can't wait to use it. But for my last 30 years of fishing I have done nothing but the old fashion way. Pattern them on the lake your own.
This is awesome!😂 Scope definitely HELPS, if you know what you’re doing but does it make you catch fish, no. Took me 3 years to be at where I am with it now. But no one sees the behind the scenes of the breakdowns I do of lakes at my house and mapping potential spots to be able to MAYBE be where I need to be. Also don’t see the small details I’ve learned with lures and presentation styles, I think there a lot of stuff I know about scope that I don’t even know I know. Like stuff I don’t think off I just do.
Those that think livescope is easy havn't used one much or at all, I'd bet. Watching you guys do your thing with it makes it look easy but I can attest that it's anything but. I've had mine for 2 years and use it every time I go out and still suck at it. Love fishing the small lake your talking about and have fished several of the jackpots there but have been skunked the last couple trips. If you want to help an old dog understand his livescope, let me know. I'd happly meet you there. *Not jumping in the water though....😂
@@sportsfr1 haha I think most people who have actually tried to learn would agree with you. I do livescope trips every now and then. Just hit me up on instagram or Facebook!
Hey man i go get one then magic boxes plug it in and they jump in the boat 😂 i love the FFS is like spotlighting deer 😂 when i hear that it tells me one thing for sure they have never used one and dont have a clue!!
You just made the statement that you cant catch big ones without your scope. 12 pounds grind it out. Scoping makes it easier or you and everybody else wouldnt fight to keep it tooth and nail.
I love bass fishing. I love getting in my boat getting away and when I go I fish hard. I’m not a great fisherman. I use livescope I’m not good with it at all. I do catch fish with it but I’m not efficient. My favorite is beating the bank power fishing. I get beat at the local tournaments most of the time by scopers but I don’t hate it. It’s just not my strength but my strength isn’t all that good either. I just love going.
I thought like alot of them when I first got one. Didn't happen! What I have found to be one of the big upsides to it is learning things I didn't know about how fish react. Also when I needed to slow down I was still fishing way to fast. But as far as throwing one on your boat and going out and catching big fish every cast, ain't gonna happen.
Bottom line is it is really fun to see interaction with fish and know you have a chance. And I don’t believe scopers are the ones keeping a bunch of fish.
I'd like to know this: Livescope aside, the technology of fish finders will keep getting better. Sure, the livescope haters are annoying or whatever, but do you have a line to not cross? What about when AI is inevitably integrated into fishfinders? Do you have a limit to tech with fishing?
Austin, I think many who are complaining are simply trying to say that it is beginning to give anglers an unfair advantage. You can’t shoot quail or ducks on the water. You can’t use night vision to sneak up on bedding deer and, if you are a PROFESSIONAL angler, you shouldn’t be able to use something that pinpoints location of the fish and literally lets you see them in pursuit of your lure. That’s great for sight fishing but not using technology. These bass have usually got somewhere to go to get away from pressure. With Livescope, they simply experience non stop pressure. I know wild life biologist here in an Oklahoma and most of them are of the opinion that Livescope is about as healthy for the bass population as NIL is for college football. Crap….where did that come from? Must be on my mind. I know you think I am probably some geezer that simply can’t evolve with the times. I actually have Livescope. I definitely catch more bass EVERY time I’m out. But that’s kinda the point. It’s OK for casual fishermen but on a lake like Grand with 200 tournaments a year and a high mortality rate…maybe not so much. If you do think mortality rates are very high just go to Wolfe Creek and hang around after the tournament. Big dead bass everywhere. With Livescope it’s more big dead bass.
I want u to fish one tournament with it. In one without it in see the difference in how you place. OR A WHOLE SEASON. That would legitimaze your claim . I done seen it on Grenada for crappie in all that. The main thing for me is it has mad it a elitest sport. No longer can a local 16 year old show up in a 4000 dollar rig in compete in local tournaments. Same at the highschool level. Kids that win have live scope. No one said it doesn't take skill. But you can use it with far inferior fishing skills in win. Over someone who can pitch, flip ,skip docks , frog , jerkbait . Also you see trailing fish . Before you would have to figure out the precise perking action for a jerk bait or speed for crank. This is all down with the screen now. It's made fishing so much easier . But like I said fish a season without livescope in see how well u do with it the next in that will give u the answere we all want . Are you competitive without livescope!
Don't want to right you a book about it but I have a lot to say about it but anyway watch all your video's have a good evening an My son jimmy wood says hello from Seminole Oklahoma
I honestly hate the term "scopin" theres really more to it than just seeing the fish. You gotta know what your looking at. Bass behavior changes from day to day, yes you can see that but it takes true instinct and time on the water to know the difference in what they are doing and want. With that there's lure selection, presentations and all sorts of small details that still go into play for catching that fish. And all that applies to fishing without Livescope except your narrowing it down to high percentage areas. But for me to be honest one of your biggest tools in the box is SIDESCAN, and I don't hear a soul talking about that. You literally can get on them with that too! IF YOU HAVE ADAPTED AND TAKEN THE TIME TO EVOLVE YOUR GAME!
FFS is more efficient not easier. What makes it really hard is not making the right decision on when to move spots instead staring at fish for 2hrs that are not active or not the right species. Literally you can watch a few videos and learn FFS but there are so many other factors that account for the system to function properly that has nothing to do with the concept on how it works. The average angler or fun fisherman that doesn’t understand conditions, thermocline, sun angle if it’s bright, boat positioning, ext. will have trouble with FFS. This is coming from someone who put a lot of time and energy on truly understanding how to use FFS properly and I still learn every time I use it. The concept of being a pro vs a fun fishermen is what the whole argument is all about. I do believe to consider yourself a pro fishermen you should be versatile. The problem is not the technology. It’s the scheduling of tournaments. Scheduling tournaments to where weather conditions and fish patterns are favorable to FFS has been the real issue in my opinion.
Electronics or no electronics it should be the anglers choice period. You don't like it don't use it simple enough. But also with tournys they just need to start having some with and some without if it has in fact came to that point. Which it looks like it has.. wi5h thst being said You should come with me fishing Austin and show me how to use mine 😆 🤣 😂 I suck at it and this is actually first yr even using a fish finder
@@dinkoverstinkcatfishing5722 haha after we get done with the video I’m gonna help whoever it is with there scoping if they want to. I also do some guide trips so hit me up if you ever want to go!
This is ridiculous if we all had 40k to get a live scope and used it for a few years we would be able to learn it🙄. Of course if we've never used it we're going to suck at it. Now same on the other side. That's how you fish take your scope away and you would be destroyed by real fisherman like Bill Dance Rick Clunn or even myself who nobody even knows. I've been bass fishing since I was 8 and I'm 42. I say let's go to a lake neither of us have ever fished and go with no electronics 1 day tournament and I am willing to bet I would destroy you. I was fishing lake of the Ozarks for the first time ever from the bank no boat and a tournament came in to the ramp in the few hours I was there I put together a 19+ bag in 5 fish and a 7.2lb big. After my nephew watched the weigh in he came running out on the dock saying uncle you would have won big bag and big fish. We'll so happens Scott was there in the trokar boat and asked what I was using. I gave him a few gigs I made a year later the swing head jig was being produced by all the companies. I still make my own for $1.25ea. Should have never shown those to a pro. So if you want to challenge me with no electronics I'll show you how it's cheating and how scopers are ruining the fisheries. I live in AZ grew up in Tennessee and Florida.
Live scope and active target is way harder then ppl think run both on my boat and it ain’t easy to catch fish I would match what your doing I will take them out for an hour and film it all. Most of these people can’t afford a boat never the least live scope or active target 😂
man im prolly not the guy u want as im more on the fence about it l mainly for tournies...ive use it a lil but not much..that being said im in oklahoma and would be up for it if dont have any takers lol
Uhhhh......1 hour on a new lake, with a technology you have never used, on a strangers boat being filmed. You really think that will prove anything? You literally debunked the claim that livescope isn't an unfair advantage when you said you would go back to the old ways IF everyone else couldn't use ffs either. You do you but I think you should rethink this.
@@kansasbass2478 it’s a small lake where you could catch a bass anywhere on it. I can tweek the rules a bit when we do the next video but if it’s as easy as they claim it to be they shouldn’t have a problem.
Yes, it will prove something because many people who think livescope just makes them jump in the boat would learn a lot from this experience and it would be very educational. Austin is good with the technology but would still be competitive without it. Your argument isn’t valid, it is a volunteer situation for a free fishing trip.
I hope beavis accepts. I have fished so long without it I cannot embrace the new technology. I have Lowrance and need to try and figure it out for bass. Now crappy is pretty easy.
This is great. I’m still struggling to learn it after a couple years. I wish it was as easy as they think, but truth is that it isn’t easy at all.
I just got my live scope and can't wait to use it. But for my last 30 years of fishing I have done nothing but the old fashion way. Pattern them on the lake your own.
This post is silly. You sound silly. It is obvious when anglers defend using FFS, they can’t fish without it. JohnBarham Knoxville, Tn.
This is awesome!😂 Scope definitely HELPS, if you know what you’re doing but does it make you catch fish, no. Took me 3 years to be at where I am with it now. But no one sees the behind the scenes of the breakdowns I do of lakes at my house and mapping potential spots to be able to MAYBE be where I need to be. Also don’t see the small details I’ve learned with lures and presentation styles, I think there a lot of stuff I know about scope that I don’t even know I know. Like stuff I don’t think off I just do.
@@laneedwardsfishing that muscle memory takes years
Those that think livescope is easy havn't used one much or at all, I'd bet. Watching you guys do your thing with it makes it look easy but I can attest that it's anything but. I've had mine for 2 years and use it every time I go out and still suck at it. Love fishing the small lake your talking about and have fished several of the jackpots there but have been skunked the last couple trips. If you want to help an old dog understand his livescope, let me know. I'd happly meet you there. *Not jumping in the water though....😂
@@sportsfr1 haha I think most people who have actually tried to learn would agree with you. I do livescope trips every now and then. Just hit me up on instagram or Facebook!
This is the best shit ever, I can’t wait for that video to take place!!
This is gold.
Hey man i go get one then magic boxes plug it in and they jump in the boat 😂 i love the FFS is like spotlighting deer 😂 when i hear that it tells me one thing for sure they have never used one and dont have a clue!!
@@CBGRTR oh yeah I gotta turn it off when I drive down the lake so they don’t jump in
@austincranfordfishing 🤣 dang magic box
You just made the statement that you cant catch big ones without your scope. 12 pounds grind it out. Scoping makes it easier or you and everybody else wouldnt fight to keep it tooth and nail.
exactly!
Like it.
The water is the perfect temp for a good cold plunge session. 😉
Oh I’m sure it feels great
I love bass fishing. I love getting in my boat getting away and when I go I fish hard. I’m not a great fisherman. I use livescope I’m not good with it at all. I do catch fish with it but I’m not efficient. My favorite is beating the bank power fishing. I get beat at the local tournaments most of the time by scopers but I don’t hate it. It’s just not my strength but my strength isn’t all that good either. I just love going.
I thought like alot of them when I first got one. Didn't happen! What I have found to be one of the big upsides to it is learning things I didn't know about how fish react. Also when I needed to slow down I was still fishing way to fast. But as far as throwing one on your boat and going out and catching big fish every cast, ain't gonna happen.
I don’t hate live scope I just don’t think it should be used in tournaments. Nor with any other electronic. Just you and the fish.
Bottom line is it is really fun to see interaction with fish and know you have a chance. And I don’t believe scopers are the ones keeping a bunch of fish.
Yall bout to find out. Austin please do this same thing with Blauket! Haha.
@@archgg5543 that would be the ultimate challenge
Oh man livescope is ruining the sport(did i sell it good enough to get a free trip) 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂💪
Have you seen the study that came out of Alabama?
I'd like to know this: Livescope aside, the technology of fish finders will keep getting better. Sure, the livescope haters are annoying or whatever, but do you have a line to not cross? What about when AI is inevitably integrated into fishfinders? Do you have a limit to tech with fishing?
I’m in Oklahoma. I’ll go fishing. But I like ffs. lol
What I fail to understand is this...if it's not so crucial, and not so easy, then why care if it's banned from events or not?? Lmao.
Live scope SUCKS! Can’t see shi from it! Let’s rock and roll
Of course ur not gonna b good at a new tech in an hour but when u figure it out its obviously easy look at the limits coming in from scoping
But if its that easy it should only take an hour lol
Austin, I think many who are complaining are simply trying to say that it is beginning to give anglers an unfair advantage. You can’t shoot quail or ducks on the water. You can’t use night vision to sneak up on bedding deer and, if you are a PROFESSIONAL angler, you shouldn’t be able to use something that pinpoints location of the fish and literally lets you see them in pursuit of your lure. That’s great for sight fishing but not using technology. These bass have usually got somewhere to go to get away from pressure. With Livescope, they simply experience non stop pressure. I know wild life biologist here in an Oklahoma and most of them are of the opinion that Livescope is about as healthy for the bass population as NIL is for college football. Crap….where did that come from? Must be on my mind. I know you think I am probably some geezer that simply can’t evolve with the times. I actually have Livescope. I definitely catch more bass EVERY time I’m out. But that’s kinda the point. It’s OK for casual fishermen but on a lake like Grand with 200 tournaments a year and a high mortality rate…maybe not so much. If you do think mortality rates are very high just go to Wolfe Creek and hang around after the tournament. Big dead bass everywhere. With Livescope it’s more big dead bass.
@@TimothyMiller-s6d we’re not gonna agree but I do appreciate the passion in your opinion.
Doesn’t side and down scan do the same thing?
I want u to fish one tournament with it. In one without it in see the difference in how you place. OR A WHOLE SEASON. That would legitimaze your claim . I done seen it on Grenada for crappie in all that. The main thing for me is it has mad it a elitest sport. No longer can a local 16 year old show up in a 4000 dollar rig in compete in local tournaments. Same at the highschool level. Kids that win have live scope. No one said it doesn't take skill. But you can use it with far inferior fishing skills in win. Over someone who can pitch, flip ,skip docks , frog , jerkbait . Also you see trailing fish . Before you would have to figure out the precise perking action for a jerk bait or speed for crank. This is all down with the screen now. It's made fishing so much easier . But like I said fish a season without livescope in see how well u do with it the next in that will give u the answere we all want . Are you competitive without livescope!
I’ll go fishing with ya. But I ain’t jumping in damn water. Unless it’s in discharge at konawa when they are generating
I love livescope and live in oklahoma, but I want to just fish Okemah lake with you
@@wingedknight027 We could probably make that happen I do guide trips
U a damn goofball
Don't want to right you a book about it but I have a lot to say about it but anyway watch all your video's have a good evening an My son jimmy wood says hello from Seminole Oklahoma
@@CharleyBook ole jimmy wood!
I honestly hate the term "scopin" theres really more to it than just seeing the fish. You gotta know what your looking at. Bass behavior changes from day to day, yes you can see that but it takes true instinct and time on the water to know the difference in what they are doing and want. With that there's lure selection, presentations and all sorts of small details that still go into play for catching that fish. And all that applies to fishing without Livescope except your narrowing it down to high percentage areas. But for me to be honest one of your biggest tools in the box is SIDESCAN, and I don't hear a soul talking about that. You literally can get on them with that too! IF YOU HAVE ADAPTED AND TAKEN THE TIME TO EVOLVE YOUR GAME!
FFS is more efficient not easier. What makes it really hard is not making the right decision on when to move spots instead staring at fish for 2hrs that are not active or not the right species. Literally you can watch a few videos and learn FFS but there are so many other factors that account for the system to function properly that has nothing to do with the concept on how it works. The average angler or fun fisherman that doesn’t understand conditions, thermocline, sun angle if it’s bright, boat positioning, ext. will have trouble with FFS. This is coming from someone who put a lot of time and energy on truly understanding how to use FFS properly and I still learn every time I use it. The concept of being a pro vs a fun fishermen is what the whole argument is all about. I do believe to consider yourself a pro fishermen you should be versatile. The problem is not the technology. It’s the scheduling of tournaments. Scheduling tournaments to where weather conditions and fish patterns are favorable to FFS has been the real issue in my opinion.
Electronics or no electronics it should be the anglers choice period. You don't like it don't use it simple enough. But also with tournys they just need to start having some with and some without if it has in fact came to that point. Which it looks like it has.. wi5h thst being said You should come with me fishing Austin and show me how to use mine 😆 🤣 😂 I suck at it and this is actually first yr even using a fish finder
@@dinkoverstinkcatfishing5722 haha after we get done with the video I’m gonna help whoever it is with there scoping if they want to. I also do some guide trips so hit me up if you ever want to go!
@austincranfordfishing oh nice, I did not know that I may just take you up on that. 🤙
@@dinkoverstinkcatfishing5722 just hit me up on instagram or Facebook
This is ridiculous if we all had 40k to get a live scope and used it for a few years we would be able to learn it🙄. Of course if we've never used it we're going to suck at it. Now same on the other side. That's how you fish take your scope away and you would be destroyed by real fisherman like Bill Dance Rick Clunn or even myself who nobody even knows. I've been bass fishing since I was 8 and I'm 42. I say let's go to a lake neither of us have ever fished and go with no electronics 1 day tournament and I am willing to bet I would destroy you. I was fishing lake of the Ozarks for the first time ever from the bank no boat and a tournament came in to the ramp in the few hours I was there I put together a 19+ bag in 5 fish and a 7.2lb big. After my nephew watched the weigh in he came running out on the dock saying uncle you would have won big bag and big fish. We'll so happens Scott was there in the trokar boat and asked what I was using. I gave him a few gigs I made a year later the swing head jig was being produced by all the companies. I still make my own for $1.25ea. Should have never shown those to a pro. So if you want to challenge me with no electronics I'll show you how it's cheating and how scopers are ruining the fisheries. I live in AZ grew up in Tennessee and Florida.
I'll even beat you without it as a co angler with 3 rods and a backpack for tackle 💯
If you ain’t scopin you’re hopin! I can’t wait for the next video
Gonna be must watch tv
Live scope and active target is way harder then ppl think run both on my boat and it ain’t easy to catch fish I would match what your doing I will take them out for an hour and film it all. Most of these people can’t afford a boat never the least live scope or active target 😂
man im prolly not the guy u want as im more on the fence about it l mainly for tournies...ive use it a lil but not much..that being said im in oklahoma and would be up for it if dont have any takers lol
@@ZachEdwards-in2be I appreciate it man. I think once people have success with it themselves they tend to usually get off the fence.
Uhhhh......1 hour on a new lake, with a technology you have never used, on a strangers boat being filmed. You really think that will prove anything? You literally debunked the claim that livescope isn't an unfair advantage when you said you would go back to the old ways IF everyone else couldn't use ffs either. You do you but I think you should rethink this.
@@kansasbass2478 it’s a small lake where you could catch a bass anywhere on it. I can tweek the rules a bit when we do the next video but if it’s as easy as they claim it to be they shouldn’t have a problem.
Yes, it will prove something because many people who think livescope just makes them jump in the boat would learn a lot from this experience and it would be very educational. Austin is good with the technology but would still be competitive without it. Your argument isn’t valid, it is a volunteer situation for a free fishing trip.
@ you sir have it figured out
Dude this is awesome! Best of luck this year!
lol sounds like the excuses are strong
Kids trout fishing in the kiddie trout pool at the state fair have same skillset as scopers. Challenge them🤷♂️
@@beavisbrowne3497 you sir sound like you might be a good candidate
I hope beavis accepts. I have fished so long without it I cannot embrace the new technology. I have Lowrance and need to try and figure it out for bass. Now crappy is pretty easy.
@levisnow