Thank you paul for another great tutorial. I use ACF Pro and CPUI as core plugins and add more plugins as needed. I do this out of habbit and trust. I also trust Elementor to add constantly add functionlity such as the recently added step forms and the filter functionality you mentioned in this tutorial.
I'm now in those themse for over a month, and your video is helping me to clear my mind and choose the proper software for my needs. and i hope i can manage them xD But thanks for uploading your videos.
I made the switch from ACF to JetEngine and got the feeling it is a good decision. For sure in the future, JetEngin really hit the gas and adding new features very fast.
this comment is gold! lol I understood the same!! This is like those Chinese movies that the guy speaks forever but the and the subtitle in english is two words!
Hi Paul, your tutorials give my the information i need. The way tools work and what is possible. So keep up the good work so I can grow and know the tools I need to have
Hey Paul, great vid, and along with the really helpful content, I love your video production skills - always quite professional. I use JetEngine and the other Jet plugins as often as I can because the price is good and more and more features are coming under the same roof - which makes it more simple for me. So price, functionality AND future growth potential are my main reasons for choosing Crocoblock. I do use ACF for things JetEngine cant' do, but suspect I'll move more over to JE as it continues to advance. As always, thanks again!
First of all I have to thank you a lot for your amazing videos!! They are worth gold and absolutely empowering!! Your extended real estate tutorial helped me to build my own project .. a shout-out is coming soon :). Let me know if you are interested and want to take look :). I just recently found jet engine .. and I was like .. wow the advertised functionallity looks great and I was just about to do an impulsive buy .. especially concerning the built in custom fields, (map!!) search functionallity and design options .. and all of this out of one hand. I was only looking for a mega menu since my site is almost done .. and I thought to myself .. what if I replace everything with croco instead .. since they do offer a lot and are highly customizable. But I stuck with the menu for now .. since my goal is now to finish the project and not re-built everything. But maybe I'll do that in the future - definitely considering that! Sooo about your question :) - what's most important for me in a hierarchy: 1. Compatibility and no "5% kill all" bugs: It just needs to work .. on its own as well as in conjunction with other plugins and common themes. I never had any issues what so ever with the toolset you suggested in your real-estate-tutorial ... which is one of the biggest advantages! The second you step out of this "environment" and look for other plugins to add functionallity you start to realize that this is not a given even with plugins that are very expensive and look great. Very often plugins look great and amazing and seem to offer great functionallity but are buggy. Often a plugin that is 95% amazing is literally killed by only 5% of very "mean placed" bugs that render the plugin as a whole completely useless or at least major functionallities. And this seems to be a scheme on WordPress .. lots of seemingly great (and expensive) plugins that are not able to provide the advertised functionallity in its fullest due to bugs and only workinf partially ... And that for 60$ or even 80$. Long story short .. it needs to just work ;). The WordPress Plugin market is often completely overpriced anyways .. but this is another story. 2. Functionallity and options: I am usually very design driven, which is okay for me .. but when you built things for customers it first and foremost needs to again work and serve the customer before anything else. The more functionallity and options I have the better (idealy out of one hand -which is why jet engine is so tempting). But if working with different plugins that are specialized and we'll coded works .. I am very fine with it as well. 3. A very very close third is Design! It has to be sexy! At least for the customer. If the Backend is sexy as well .. great, not that important but I'll take it .. so it's also fun to work with :). 4. Nice to have ... Good documentation and good support. Often the things above go hand in hand with this point and the other way around. If a plugin works really well and justifies its price than often documentation and support are good as well. And if documentation and/or support is great the plugin is often great as well. In short: 1. Compatibility and no "5% kill all" bugs (it needs to work) 2. Functionallity and options 3. Design (close third) 4. Good documentation/support (nice to have) ... Definitely keep my eye on croco. Thx again.
Bang on... This is one of the things that I always say when people comment on the price of the tools used in the deep dive tutorials. Yes, they are often the more expensive plugin, but if you want a toolkit that works well and plays well together along with support and the key features (not all the bells and whistles that you'll never use) it comes at a cost. Do you buy a car based on the colour and never look at the running costs, maintenance and reliability? I certainly hope not. Those factors are often more important than anything else. Get that wrong and it's a very costly lesson to learn.
Yes absolutely - these kind of things will come back around and bite in the "buttocks". - I mean if you only want to built a website for yourself you can pretty much do this without spending a lot of money or even not spending any money at all. Before this project I had a portfolio website and the only money I spent was for a theme - I tried to avoid spending any money on plugins as much as possible - I just had to, due to my bankroll. Eventually it turned out that working with this specific theme was terrible :) even though the result was okay - the only thing I took from it was, that page builder are really cool - and I continued using them. - BUT - If you want to set up a more complex site especially with lots of dynamic user oriented content and start a business - than a 1000 bucks is not even that much. I mean who is able to say that he/she was able to start their own business with regional, national or international operations for only a 1000$?! This is often only possible because of the internet, channels like this and platforms like Wordpress. If you really want to make a living out of it with a decent monthly income of 1000,2000,3000$ (the sky is the limit) than a 1000$ "startup-money" is even relatively cheap - and this is coming from someone that lives of social services at the moment and whos bankroll is a mess. I definitely have no intention to devalue a price-tag like this - it is a lot! of money for me and most of us .. but if you view it from the potential-side of it you could see it more as a springboard than a restriction. - If someone offers you a Mercedes AMG for 1000$ you just take no matter what - even if the only thing you do is to re-sell it the day after. And if you fail - a thousand bucks is dirty .. yes ... but still kind of manageable. - Just be aware and get use to take advantage of the return policies! - in case some plugins turn out to be not that great and not worth the money - this will happen. I definitely had to pay for some "lessons" - because I just didn't know better and before actually watched your videos. But usually the Wordpress-Staples that have been around for some time ... or other very well built plugins .. are often 1. reasonably priced and 2. work quite well.
Pretty much I tent to go with what I am familiar with ... there are so many different options to do the same thing. The challenge is to find something that has the most features so that you are not limited in what you can do.
Paul everything is about support, doctumentation videos of examples and real projects. But no one understand that . So you answer of your question. I choose the one who has the best doc, support and examples. Price matter but not so much in the long run if you develop many sites...
I bought ACF Pro (Developer license) in 2015, along with the repeater field and gallery field (total US$150). It looks like they don't have the one time purchase anymore, it's a yearly payment?
Dear Paul, thanks for your many hours of really good content. My decision favours needed features ...mostly. But knowing the plugin, helps a lot. I would also like to have your advice on a new project for a software house to display all of its software and each product features. I'll be using elementorPro+hello theme and most certainly CPT+ACF and a lot of the plugins you have been recomending. Is it possible to have your advice on what you believe to be the best choices for this project?
Hi Paul. I’d really appreciate more in depth video about extras, I use extras but didn’t know it has conditional visibility and I’ve definitely not seen anything about front end forms using it? Waiting rather (impatiently) for the search function. Generally I’ve been using CPT UI, ACF Pro (bought on a LTD), ACF Front End Forms and Extras for my kit (I love extras posts widget) but am being tempted by crocoblock for the following functionality: booking engine, search (extras not yet live) and better filtering (extras you can only filter the posts widget by one taxonomy).
Hi Paul, great video again. I have a few questions. Is it possible to migrate data from acf pro to jetengine and otherwise in a simple way? Can acf frontend froms pro be used with data from jetengine? Thanks. Regards, Luc
Not that I'm aware of no. They store information differently I believe and not all ACF fields are supported in JetEngine. No, ACF Frontend Forms is ACF only at this point in tim.
I don't understand why anyone would do an ACF Pro comparison, include paid add ons, and not cover the free and extensive ACF Extended. It replaces about five of those plugins.
Dear thanks for all the videos that you alwyes show, i am trying to build a website for travel and tourism that include all like tkts, hotel, car rent, visa apply login sublogin payment gate way normail accounts and alot of stuff . Can i have you advice about such project and whats your ideas about it Regards
Dependency /// I'd go for ACF if I don't want to depend on Elementor or Gutenberg. Even if I'm a little frustrated that I didn't buy a lifetime license …
many plugins need better ,well thought out and written documentation. Devs are rather poor at documentation, leaving a user to chart his way through the tool to use it creatively for his site. Your work bridges the aforementioned gap quite a bit. Nevertheless,each site developer has to work to master any plugin or widget to achieve desired results.Its not price, but the utility ,simplicity of use ,and documentation of a tool that makes for its success
You may want to take a look at the video I released yesterday to see that JetEngine does work with Oxygen. At least in my initial testing and the Crocoblock team are looking to increase the level of integration further.
@@WPTuts yeah, i seen today, to night i think about this and morning i see this... how about smart filter, booking, appoiment, rank math pro for exemple have solution for elementor how works rank math with oxygen, in custom type schema markup for FAQ exemple create accordion
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Thank you for bringing it all together so succinctly. Your videos have proved to be invaluable in learning WordPress and Elementor.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you paul for another great tutorial. I use ACF Pro and CPUI as core plugins and add more plugins as needed. I do this out of habbit and trust. I also trust Elementor to add constantly add functionlity such as the recently added step forms and the filter functionality you mentioned in this tutorial.
I'm now in those themse for over a month, and your video is helping me to clear my mind and choose the proper software for my needs. and i hope i can manage them xD But thanks for uploading your videos.
Great to have a summary roundup video like this.. even better if you made an infographic of all this :)
I made the switch from ACF to JetEngine and got the feeling it is a good decision. For sure in the future, JetEngin really hit the gas and adding new features very fast.
The cliff notes, ACF plus 37 plugins or JetEngine, that's what I understood.
this comment is gold! lol I understood the same!! This is like those Chinese movies that the guy speaks forever but the and the subtitle in english is two words!
Hi Paul, your tutorials give my the information i need. The way tools work and what is possible. So keep up the good work so I can grow and know the tools I need to have
Hey Paul, great vid, and along with the really helpful content, I love your video production skills - always quite professional.
I use JetEngine and the other Jet plugins as often as I can because the price is good and more and more features are coming under the same roof - which makes it more simple for me. So price, functionality AND future growth potential are my main reasons for choosing Crocoblock.
I do use ACF for things JetEngine cant' do, but suspect I'll move more over to JE as it continues to advance.
As always, thanks again!
First of all I have to thank you a lot for your amazing videos!! They are worth gold and absolutely empowering!! Your extended real estate tutorial helped me to build my own project .. a shout-out is coming soon :). Let me know if you are interested and want to take look :).
I just recently found jet engine .. and I was like .. wow the advertised functionallity looks great and I was just about to do an impulsive buy .. especially concerning the built in custom fields, (map!!) search functionallity and design options .. and all of this out of one hand.
I was only looking for a mega menu since my site is almost done .. and I thought to myself .. what if I replace everything with croco instead .. since they do offer a lot and are highly customizable. But I stuck with the menu for now .. since my goal is now to finish the project and not re-built everything. But maybe I'll do that in the future - definitely considering that!
Sooo about your question :) - what's most important for me in a hierarchy:
1. Compatibility and no "5% kill all" bugs:
It just needs to work .. on its own as well as in conjunction with other plugins and common themes. I never had any issues what so ever with the toolset you suggested in your real-estate-tutorial ... which is one of the biggest advantages! The second you step out of this "environment" and look for other plugins to add functionallity you start to realize that this is not a given even with plugins that are very expensive and look great. Very often plugins look great and amazing and seem to offer great functionallity but are buggy. Often a plugin that is 95% amazing is literally killed by only 5% of very "mean placed" bugs that render the plugin as a whole completely useless or at least major functionallities. And this seems to be a scheme on WordPress .. lots of seemingly great (and expensive) plugins that are not able to provide the advertised functionallity in its fullest due to bugs and only workinf partially ... And that for 60$ or even 80$. Long story short .. it needs to just work ;). The WordPress Plugin market is often completely overpriced anyways .. but this is another story.
2. Functionallity and options:
I am usually very design driven, which is okay for me .. but when you built things for customers it first and foremost needs to again work and serve the customer before anything else. The more functionallity and options I have the better (idealy out of one hand -which is why jet engine is so tempting). But if working with different plugins that are specialized and we'll coded works .. I am very fine with it as well.
3. A very very close third is Design! It has to be sexy! At least for the customer. If the Backend is sexy as well .. great, not that important but I'll take it .. so it's also fun to work with :).
4. Nice to have ... Good documentation and good support. Often the things above go hand in hand with this point and the other way around. If a plugin works really well and justifies its price than often documentation and support are good as well. And if documentation and/or support is great the plugin is often great as well.
In short:
1. Compatibility and no "5% kill all" bugs
(it needs to work)
2. Functionallity and options
3. Design (close third)
4. Good documentation/support (nice to have)
... Definitely keep my eye on croco.
Thx again.
Bang on...
This is one of the things that I always say when people comment on the price of the tools used in the deep dive tutorials. Yes, they are often the more expensive plugin, but if you want a toolkit that works well and plays well together along with support and the key features (not all the bells and whistles that you'll never use) it comes at a cost.
Do you buy a car based on the colour and never look at the running costs, maintenance and reliability?
I certainly hope not.
Those factors are often more important than anything else. Get that wrong and it's a very costly lesson to learn.
Yes absolutely - these kind of things will come back around and bite in the "buttocks".
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I mean if you only want to built a website for yourself you can pretty much do this without spending a lot of money or even not spending any money at all. Before this project I had a portfolio website and the only money I spent was for a theme - I tried to avoid spending any money on plugins as much as possible - I just had to, due to my bankroll. Eventually it turned out that working with this specific theme was terrible :) even though the result was okay - the only thing I took from it was, that page builder are really cool - and I continued using them.
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BUT
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If you want to set up a more complex site especially with lots of dynamic user oriented content and start a business - than a 1000 bucks is not even that much. I mean who is able to say that he/she was able to start their own business with regional, national or international operations for only a 1000$?! This is often only possible because of the internet, channels like this and platforms like Wordpress. If you really want to make a living out of it with a decent monthly income of 1000,2000,3000$ (the sky is the limit) than a 1000$ "startup-money" is even relatively cheap - and this is coming from someone that lives of social services at the moment and whos bankroll is a mess. I definitely have no intention to devalue a price-tag like this - it is a lot! of money for me and most of us .. but if you view it from the potential-side of it you could see it more as a springboard than a restriction.
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If someone offers you a Mercedes AMG for 1000$ you just take no matter what - even if the only thing you do is to re-sell it the day after. And if you fail - a thousand bucks is dirty .. yes ... but still kind of manageable.
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Just be aware and get use to take advantage of the return policies! - in case some plugins turn out to be not that great and not worth the money - this will happen. I definitely had to pay for some "lessons" - because I just didn't know better and before actually watched your videos. But usually the Wordpress-Staples that have been around for some time ... or other very well built plugins .. are often 1. reasonably priced and 2. work quite well.
I choose my tools on Price and how spread the knowledge is within its users, which for me is how many tutorials I can find on TH-cam and blogs.
I have both acf pro and je but bought a lifetime license for crocoblock. Call me old-school but having lifetime licenses is more comforting lol.
Hi Paul, Please do an in-depth comparison between JetEngine and Toolset Types as well.
Pretty much I tent to go with what I am familiar with ... there are so many different options to do the same thing. The challenge is to find something that has the most features so that you are not limited in what you can do.
Paul everything is about support, doctumentation videos of examples and real projects. But no one understand that . So you answer of your question. I choose the one who has the best doc, support and examples. Price matter but not so much in the long run if you develop many sites...
I bought ACF Pro (Developer license) in 2015, along with the repeater field and gallery field (total US$150). It looks like they don't have the one time purchase anymore, it's a yearly payment?
Crocoblock just raised the prices from 499 to 750! Abit of a surprise as i was just learning about the tool and deciding to buy it.... 😭
Ouch! That IS a big jump!
I know, I was also thinking to buy it soon when it was in 499. Dont know the why of the big jump, but that makes me think twice now.
@@cuaran89 they regularly have sales, so keep an eye out for one that will hopefully push the price of the LTD down closer to its original pricing.
@@WPTuts Thanks a lot Paul. You are the man!
@@cuaran89 And now $1000!!!!!!!
I use a combination of JetEngine and PAFE for forms, though I am looking into dynamic content. Thank you for the recap.
Dear Paul, thanks for your many hours of really good content. My decision favours needed features ...mostly. But knowing the plugin, helps a lot. I would also like to have your advice on a new project for a software house to display all of its software and each product features. I'll be using elementorPro+hello theme and most certainly CPT+ACF and a lot of the plugins you have been recomending. Is it possible to have your advice on what you believe to be the best choices for this project?
Hi Paul. I’d really appreciate more in depth video about extras, I use extras but didn’t know it has conditional visibility and I’ve definitely not seen anything about front end forms using it? Waiting rather (impatiently) for the search function. Generally I’ve been using CPT UI, ACF Pro (bought on a LTD), ACF Front End Forms and Extras for my kit (I love extras posts widget) but am being tempted by crocoblock for the following functionality: booking engine, search (extras not yet live) and better filtering (extras you can only filter the posts widget by one taxonomy).
Hi Paul, great video again. I have a few questions. Is it possible to migrate data from acf pro to jetengine and otherwise in a simple way? Can acf frontend froms pro be used with data from jetengine? Thanks. Regards, Luc
Not that I'm aware of no. They store information differently I believe and not all ACF fields are supported in JetEngine.
No, ACF Frontend Forms is ACF only at this point in tim.
Actually I listen and follow your advice when purchasing a new plugin.
Where are the front-end form options in Extras for Elementor? I can't find any widget of this type.
It isn’t in there. Front end forms are acf front end
Lifetime crocoblock is not 299 but now $750.
hmmm ... crocoblocks just got less interesting.
@@robinbloemer as of today it's now $999
Jet Engine users! I've never used it. Is it buggy at all? It doesn't give me much confidence for some reason.
I don't understand why anyone would do an ACF Pro comparison, include paid add ons, and not cover the free and extensive ACF Extended. It replaces about five of those plugins.
Dear thanks for all the videos that you alwyes show, i am trying to build a website for travel and tourism that include all like tkts, hotel, car rent, visa apply login sublogin payment gate way normail accounts and alot of stuff .
Can i have you advice about such project and whats your ideas about it
Regards
Compaitble with other famous tools!
Features and flexibility
Dependency /// I'd go for ACF if I don't want to depend on Elementor or Gutenberg. Even if I'm a little frustrated that I didn't buy a lifetime license …
0:10 > What influences your decision ON THE TOOLS YOU USE FOR A PARTICULAR WEB DESIGN PROJECT?
- Only extensibility of features
Features and familiarity.
God bless You...........Sir
For me I’d want a booking engine, filtering and search
Oh and CPTs and front end forms😆
Features, then usability and lastly price. I'll throw any amount of money at something that makes my life easier
many plugins need better ,well thought out and written documentation. Devs are rather poor at documentation, leaving a user to chart his way through the tool to use it creatively for his site. Your work bridges the aforementioned gap quite a bit. Nevertheless,each site developer has to work to master any plugin or widget to achieve desired results.Its not price, but the utility ,simplicity of use ,and documentation of a tool that makes for its success
Can't we just do this by pressing one button?
That 750$ is a turn down.. its simply false advertising at this moment.
And now it's at $1000!!!!!!!!!!!
You need to update this video and thumbnail. $299 is a lie. Try $750 for JetEngine.
That’s for the whole suite, jet engine, jetsmartfilters, jetbooking etc
price, features and ease of use. but mostly features
The features.
jet engine works only in elementor, and don't work in oxygen builder or any
You may want to take a look at the video I released yesterday to see that JetEngine does work with Oxygen. At least in my initial testing and the Crocoblock team are looking to increase the level of integration further.
@@WPTuts yeah, i seen today, to night i think about this and morning i see this... how about smart filter, booking, appoiment, rank math pro for exemple have solution for elementor how works rank math with oxygen, in custom type schema markup for FAQ exemple create accordion
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Jet products are the worst. Can't wait to get rid of them.