My WORST CGC Unboxing EVER!
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I’m sorry that damage did not happen during shipping. That damage occurred at cgc, they don’t care if they damage our books. They are not personally vested in them.
They're comic hobbyist just as we are. You're painting with a broad brush bud. Yes, I've met a good sum of the staff in person as well.
Jay z owns cgc. You meet him too?
I also believe when you send modern from 2010-2020 along with modern from 1980-1990 they are much harsher on the older books bc they don’t look as nice as the newer shiny books. I blame this on new graders without enough experience.
That kind of psychology makes sense to me…
Definitely going to have to get better about taking pics when I'm sending stuff in. My last submission I personally sent in came back all 9.8's and one 9.6, of course with no notes, I felt that cover was more solid than some of the 9.8's before I sent it.
That’s a great sub!
That mystery box is 🔥. And it absolutely sucks that they would expect you to take pictures of every single submission with the amount you run through them every year....
Man that’s rough, I have had pretty lousy luck with CGC grades, probably just leave a lot of my stuff raw in the future
Well this vid was a glass case of emotion. The highs of the collab with Dell'Otto (congrats!) and your powerhouse of a comic box offering and then the pains of the other stuff we don't have to talk about. But as always, thank you for taking us through the journey in showing us the highs and lows. I've only sent a few comics for grading and your vids have helped in anticipating/accepting a grade and making the judgement call on what to look for before even considering to submit🤙
Man that lost box sucks...all those rejects would get me down. Mystery box sale looks awesome!
I sent in a minty copy of Clone Wars 1. I looked it over like a hawk and saw nothing wrong with it. It came back at a 9.2. I have no idea how. I took the slab to my lcs and he even said there's absolutely no way that's a 9.2 told me if it was him he'd 100% Crack and resend it that the grader was having a bad day or something. I've looked it over so many times and still can't see anything wrong with it. I'm undecided on cracking it
Mystery boxes sound good, as always. Thanks for sharing the submission process. Lots of good information.
same thing happened with yellow labels. 5 books came back with bottom corner bends... like these were dropped at CGC and they wont take responsibility.
I don’t use Fed-Ex anymore at all; I switched my CGC account to ship through UPS. Fed-Ex here is horrible; I once had them throw a package over my fence like a football.
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That's brutal Bry,
For what it's worth, this video was awesome.
Cant wait to get my SIKC #21 Great vid Bry!
Brutal! This is a tough game. I definitely respect the 9.8 CGC grade and your experience. Keep grinding bro!✌️
I feel like some of these graders are on a power trip. Either that or there is a "quota" to make people press and resubmit. CGC makes even more money rejecting and having you resubmit.
I think you’re onto something with the press and resubmit theory
Man, it’s really informative watching you critique your rejected books. Great video, even though it sucks to get that many rejects. Most lessons learned aren’t free of cost.
Well put and your last sentence is DEAD ON!!
Looks great!
interesting how finger bends and slight variance can happen either in shipping or at CGC. Good advice to take pics of front and back. This channel rocks.
You should take the time for photos on your next prescreen submission, even if its just that one batch. It would be super interesting to see how that turns out.
When i sent in my books for the alex ross private signing, i used fullbacks to help with any of the mishandling i would expect to occur at cgc.
I love these videos because it gives people even more understanding on how CGC can grade a book
The Mystery Boxes just keep getting better!
What a fine line we walk in this hobby. That dang 9.8 is such a dangly carrot that we just can't resist, yet it's so easy (and frustrating) to have our books deemed "less than" for seemingly nebulous reasons.
Awesome channel 🤩 loving it already!
Ordered my box this morning!! Thanks for such a great mystery box!
Best of luck my friend! I was daydreaming about reading comics with you today, is that weird?
Great video! I always learn something.
Best variant cover of Spidey I’ve seen in many years!
Great tips Bry!
Awesome video Bry but man really sucks they rejected and damaged some of your books. Some really cool takeaways was thinking of doing a 9.8 or 9.0 pre-screen for some tlou books. Now leaning more towards playing it safe with the 9.0 prescreen.
Great information! The books that did make it are terrific! Many of the others are good looking books also! Thanks for sharing!
Great video Bry!
That hurt to watch. I’m just about to get started submitting and that’s exactly what scares me.
The 9.8 pre screen. It can be such an unforgiving mistress (sigh).
Epic mystery box! Congrats on getting this far. you earned it.
Last cgc submission I had was awesome. It's unfortunate that there's not system to prove when CGC damages a book.... or loses one😒
Fed-Ex is the worst. They "lost" one of my boxes full of slabs also.
I received my books back from cgc this week and I didn’t prescreen. I received books with new spine ticks and finger bends they didn’t have going in. I have all the video and pics backing up that statement as I film and take photos of my press and clean process before I send them in. So it’s very possible cgc gave you those new indents and ticks causing those books to be rejected.
Did you file a claim?
@@BrysComics I have not yet I just got them back and was debated doing so.
Sorry for you Bry. Hope it goes better next time.
that's why ya don't play the 9.8 game. if the book looks good, just send the damn thing in and get it slabbed.
Wish someone in Canada would do mystery boxes...
Great video. Excited for my AF mystery box. With some of those rejections I think they were having a bad day and being a little harsh
Good advice. Now l wish l took pics of the book l currently have submitted
Super educational. Still blown away by all of the rejects!😢
Mint-Hunter Comics has a video dated two days after your video where he only got 2 9.8s out of 25 comics as well. It sounds like CGC is going crazy.
My take away from your submission is that allowable defects for a 9.8 is not considered by the grader. That book has to be perfect for a 9.8. It is unfortunate you did not get the grades you were hoping for. The grading inconsistency of the new CGC graders drives my crazy.
That Dell’Otto is ABSOLUTE 🔥 FIRE!!! Congratulations again on securing it my friend 👏👏👏 Wow you definitely had some serious mishandling of your books somewhere along the way because I know you have a keen eye for what passes as a 9.8 and you would have not sent them in on a prescreen in that condition. Way to keep your composure at the end when most of us would have lost it.
Thank you my friend!
@@BrysComics well deserved my man!
You: These weren't damaged when I submitted them.
CGC: Did you take pictures?
You: No, but I submit a lot to you guys though. Please be reasonable.
CGC: Nope! And we know you'll keep giving us more money anyway. Byyyyyye.
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I would go crazy seeing all the rejection
Ordered my box this morning. Opened the last one when I got home. Good day!
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My guess is that reversion happened with most of those books with tics and bends. The printing defects were likely always there and were easily missed. Because of reversion, I now set my cleaned and pressed books aside for a month and then re-examine them one more time before submitting. It is an extra step and delays the submission but helps catch reversion. Rates of reversion are likely affected by hard to control factors such as humidity and temperature. I think reversion rates have increased with all the crazy weather we have had in Cali. I can’t prove it. Would need to get Swagglehsus on the case to come up with some charts and graphs on reversion rates crossed referenced to weather conditions. As always, super educational and fun video Bry! Keep ‘em coming.❤
Man that sucks! I hate seeing how careless they have getting here lately. I’ve never thought about taking pictures of books before sending, thank you for the tip! Will definitely use it in the future
Psyched for the mystery box, I just bought one! Can't wait!
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Great content, thank you
Like your walk through. As of recent I have yet to see any consistency on how CGC grades. I have gotten some of the worst grades over the last 6 months than I have in the 8+ years I have been submitting books. Most of these books were press by cgc. I have seen other vendors submitted books get some of the crazy 9.8 grades even with multiple spine ticks. They were even surprise by the results.
Would you recommend sending in a few books or 25 at a time if you could afford it? I’m wanting to send in some SIKTC that I have. Thanks for the tips on the pics of book before sending them in.
You save a little money if you do 25 at a time….
I recently bought a collection and will be submitting my first set of books to cgc! Wolverine number 8 newsstand and the amazing Spider-Man 316. Both are very clean copies and I'm excited to see what the grades are and compared to what I think they will be.
Rough unboxing...great vid.
Son of a …. Lol great video Bry
The giveaways are insane! I have 50 books I think of sending into CGC but I go back and forth
Wait for a bit let them fix their issues. I’m holding off on my next order until they fix their problems
@@fatherknowstoys They don't have "issues" that you are describing. I just got back a shipment of 18 out of 25 books come back a 9.8 WITHOUT prescreen. That's not luck, it's just getting better at your craft.
Unfortunately with all the submissions they're either getting rushed through the process or they're actually looking at the books
That’s definitely deflating. I need to get another pre screen together and this does not help the nerves 😂
Don't waste your money on prescreen. Spend some time reviewing your books for any defects under a light prior to making a decision on grading and/or whether it needs a press to "get it over the top". This is a skill that you only get better at by putting in the effort. My best example is when you took an exam in school, you sometimes just "knew" you crushed it. It's the same with this!
I am thinking slightly thicker backing boards for submitted comics may help protect them from some CGC handling issues. What do you think?
I have started double to triple boarding books I'm sending to CGC to help have a little extra protection against things like this.
Great video as usual. I pray that your box does not get lost. Nice mystery box . Just paid for mine.
I’m strongly considering that…
On the positive side, CGC has been much faster lately. I sent in 25 books last week and they are already in QC. I did a 9.6 prescreen, cause they still fetch a decent price. I couldn't handle paying for all of those rejects.
9.6 pre-screen seems to be the way to go to avoid excessive disappointment. The high 9.8 rejection rate seems to be rampant on You Tube these days. This is the third video with similar poor results I've watched in the past week or so.
@@markvandervlist8967my order is arriving today. 13 9.8. 8 9.6. 4 rejects. 9.6 prescreen works for me. That could have been 11 rejects, and I'd be paying $99 for nothing
Hey Bry, hope you are doing well. I attended the CGC Academy and want to give some insight on helping you. Make sure you are checking the INTERIOR COVERS as well. You want to check if any interior foxing or any dents that aren't apparent on the front. None of your video has you doing that. I'll flip through every book I submit, check the interior covers, and even eyeball the centerfold with staples. These are the same actions the graders do when assessing your book. I'd also recommend getting some "Lume Cube" lighting and checking the books under the light to unveil any finger bends that are not seen normally from 2-3 feet away when you are holding it. You'd be surprised how many defects you can miss in not having done this. Also, I DO NOT recommend doing any prescreen. You're on the right path. Take into account these adjustments and you should be getting much better results. Keep up the good content!
Wow, the giveaway is incredible. Your awesome man keep up the great work
As always..great content
That is a remarkable cover. Really gorgeous. About the grades, could it be a slight page color issue?
No page color only affects the grade if it’s really severe…
Got it, the best thing is to take photo if possible.
I had a submission of 3 Secret Wars issue 7 and 2 ASM 252 along with a handful of other books. The hit up the SW and ASM issues hard. I had them cleaned and pressed and I was hoping they would be inthe 9.2 to 9.6 range. 1 SW came back a 9.0 the other 2 were 8.5 and the ASM 252 were 8.0. I know that some of the damage occured after pressing and cleaning.
I have books on the way back now that have a handful at grades much lower than expected (the rest hit as expected) so I’m worried they were damaged before grading. They were all consecutive in the submission form too… maybe that 5 book pack was dropped…
Nice insight 👍
Wow - seems like they really tightened up- “son of a “ - that was funny - thanks Bry
Great information.
Damon that really sucks!
Those mystery box prizes are wild
Bro, sorry for your lost. However, on the bright side we could see that CGC actually doing their job.
That was heart breaking. But keep up the hard work.
Need some advice about grading. I have a key comic that is probably a 9.6 right now. And 9.8 once its pressed. However, it was manufactured with only 1 staple. Would this increase the value or decrease the value? It doesn't have the staple holes thats how I know it came off the press that way. Any advice?
I believe it would get a qualified label and be worth less…not 100% sure on the label color but I think it’s an undesirable defect…weird how that works
You would get a BLUE LABEL as that's a manufacturing defect. If it had no staples, then you would you get a green label with "Manufactured with no staples". I mailed in an ASM50 with your exact same concerns a few years ago as there was no manufactured bottom staple. It came back 3.5 blue label with no designation on the notes as this can actually happen in the manufacturing process. Hope this helps.
@@jerryunderwood6130 thats unfortunate. I say give it a higher grade. Could u imagine a comic with one staples being in a 9.8 condition? Its like a runner with a broken leg beaten Usan Bolt in a race! Lol
@@MrOlivasalone I should have gave more details, it actually was a book that fit that grade aside from that manufacture defect. You will land a 9.8 if the condition of the book fits. It is odd seeing Bolt lose a race recently btw!
I had a slabb come back this spring as an 8.5 purple lable. Defenders #4. Pulled grader notes which said finger nail dents back cover n color touch 3 spots front cover. I'm original owner and remember buying it in my youth from newsstand.
I suspect cgc is using ai to help with grading.
I really love your channel
Out of curiosity, how long are you cold pressing these? I’ve had issues with books reverting if I left books in the wet bath too long or cold press not long enough. I had an issue with my last submission where they rejected half the 25 pre screen and they look damn near perfect.
I may not have left in the press long enough…
Been there my friend. Side note, ordered a mystery box. Love em. Keep up the great work!
I have two slabs. Both are silver age daredevils. No. 5 and no 38 with Dr Doom. Awesome stuff
Thanks for the education!
Ordered my box this morning :)
Sorry about the bad news. Its disturbing to know that CGC damages books.
I am not surprised about them falling off the truck. Have you ever seen them deliver. They keep their side door open.
Great mystery box!
Wish I could get one of the mystery boxes! They look sweet!
Odd, same thing happened to Mint Hunter!?!?
Sorry to hear this. That mystery box if fire tho! Thinking of grabbin one for sure.
I'm waiting on getting my second submission to CGC back.🤞🤞🤞.
Do you recommend sending in comics you want to sell to get graded? Loaded question, but I'm trying to get into selling more.
its easier to sell slabbed stuff, ymmv
Yeah it’s worth it most of the time…I did a whole video on it
I'm an eBay "TOP SELLER", majority of books I sell are graded in the 9.8 ballpark. I highly recommend this route as the "spread" is 30%-40% profit if you are selling the right books, which is very high in comparison to many other businesses in a profit margin.
man, makes me a bit scared to submit on my own, but super informative.
Somebody was high when they pre-screen them LOL
I just submitted 24 books for 9.8 prescreen. Hope I don't the dude that graded these. Homeboy don't know how to handle comics 😢
It’s not that they are grading harder. It’s that they have new graders.. it’s pretty simple. Improved turn around times come with a cost
I wish you had pics, to see what they would say next or if they refund reject fee.
I think the moderns have a chance at 9.8s anything pre really has to be not touched since bought to get that 9.8 but hey that’s the game worth a shot 🤙
Lately, they have been grading modern 9.8s like they were 10s. This is why I stick to vintage books now.
I don’t understand why anyone would pay $9 per reject. For only $13 more you can get it graded. Sell it on whatnot and recoup slabbing fee rather than being in the hole. Just my 2 cents.
I agree with you 100%. You're otherwise just paying for someone to "babysit" your books for no real reason. Also, there's PLENTY of people that collect comics that aren't 9.8 and they just want the book in a nice case being content with having it.
Raffle is calling my name. 😂
Ouch, that was brutal! Better luck next time!👍✔️