@@Nominay my man, if everyone understood that you don't fuck with ratios you leave them as they were originally the world would be a much better place.
Madeline Monahan I agree. It was a historical time having to do with the evolution of skateboarding, and that was all a phenomena within a certain time very different from today. You can never know it if you weren't there, but I do recommend Sean Cliver's book, "Disposable". It's a great read with awesome pictures.
1991-1992 was only one year and the difference between those two years is incredible. 55mm wheels in early ‘91 to bearing covers by late ‘92. Deck shapes, nose length, smaller trucks, flat mounting hardware, recessed truck mounting holes, etc.
It's amazing how much Gonz changed in the next 4 or 5 yrs...... This is before he was abducted by aliens and came back with anti gravity device implants in his head
The Gonz was so much more humble in his attitude, demeanor, and responses to those stupid interview questions. And then he FUCKN kills it on the board.
Awesome. Interesting that there weren't really even all that many ollies, aside from Gonz. Lots of people pushing mongo too. Cab had a kickass style back then too. Awesome bit of skating history. Thanks for posting.
I started skateboarding in the 80s, I guess more late 80s. It went from Hosoi & Hawk launching huge airs to Natas & Gonz riding walls and rails. When Natas Ollied the hydrant 😮😮
That contest was so much fun and out of control. Such amazing memories and stories of the parties the night before and getting thrown out of the hotel next to the pier.
Rest assured, if Gator was involved, you just knew it was going to be a shit show of epic proportions. He was the Keith Moon of skateboarding, straight up party animal rockstar.....right before he went off the deep end. In fact, the guy was always nuts lol!!,
@@crazyralph6386 I sensed that about him then. Wasn't too surprised about the murder, shocking as it was. That documentary on him/that was so damn disturbing and sad.
In 1985 street skating was basically just dorking around having fun. A fs 180 over a parking block was a legit trick that got cheers. Three years later Hokus Pokus came out and had a tre flip down an 8 set, bs flip off a bump over a full size garbage can, fs boards down real handrails, long flatbar grinds etc. What an era.
I haven't skated since probably 90 or 91. I didn't even know the word mongo existed until I started watching videos recently. Nobody cared as long as you could make your tricks.
I hope the 15 minutes wasn't too long for you guys, but I wanted to provide some context. I whittled down this almost 2 hour long contest video to 15 minutes - not bad! :-)
I wish they still had this type of obstacle competition available for the public to enter. Skating today has become stupidly complicated and technical and not as fun as something like this looks
Skating has progressed more than any of these guys in 1985 could’ve ever imagined. Imagine someone doing a 360 kickflip down 15 stairs back in those days or an Ollie impossible over that 55 gallon drum they have sitting out there on that course.
@@montanaplease most of these skaters weren’t even street skaters. They were very dudes trying to figure out how to street skate to stay relevant as the vert seen was beginning to take a back set to the rawness of street. I will say the level of progress from these NSA contests in mid 80’s to early 90’s was really fucking mind blowing.
Oh and I know that cause I was 11 and at this event. And was huge into street skating. Actually the year after this was another NSA street contest and even better cause the vert dudes were gone and it was pure street (for the most part) and I think the weekend after that was CASL and I won highest Ollie.
@@terrybates5509 I recommend reading about the influence of the Mullen "Trix You Can't Do" article from Thrasher fall of '86 - the issue after Gonz was featured on the cover.
When I started skating in 84, nobody handed me a manual on how to skate. Nobody really skated where I come from in rural NC at the time. Mongo is just how I learned to push. I never had any issue with it, and nobody ever said anything to me about it. And I used to be shop sponsored, and did decent in contests.
Bill Danforth wears it as an odd badge of honor that he's never done an Ollie. it's as if to him, to do one would be selling out. I know that Duane Peters had disdain for ollies, as if they weren't hardcore for "real" rippers like him.
You can tell how alien street skating was to everyone. I remember those days well. We thought we were king sh#t if we could ride a nose wheelie like that. lol!!!
Amzing how 3 years after this in 1987/88 it evolved into what it is today. ~You can str8^ see how The Gonz changed it.. Dude was doing lil ollie shifties,,180's over stuff, That 180 manny on the funbox and the axel stall.. *The Following year they would be doing the 180's and The Gonz would be kickflipping over the same curb.. I would say he changed Skating for the better where Mullen for the worse.. Man they so need a propper movie made about The Gonz but My God we needed The Phelper to be involved(rip)
Mullen changed skating for the worse? I'm not sure how anyone changes skating like that. Someone else will end up coming up with a trick if it's not done first by one of the lauded pioneers.
@@Nominay lol skating wasn't about flip tricks or even kickflips until they coppied freestylers.. It was still gnarly before flip tricks.. You just aren't aware of the "Freestyle conspiracy". Grosso even did a Love Letters episode on it before he died(rip) ~but he didn't create the conspiracy or the beef. it was already established by dudes who hated freestyle skater. I'll leav eit there since you don't agree .
I lived on the Strand back in those days. I remember this competition. Once I saw this I was hooked. Who remembers skating the bowl next to William Shattners house?
I thought it was painful watching Gator's attempts at being relevant during the street skate transition years in 'Stoked', but, apparently, he sucked at street skating even before then.
It was the price a pro skater paid for sticking only to vert. Mike McGill noticably depleted his career the same way, except he didn't bother skating street contests. He doesn't even do any of the archaic street skating in Animal Chin, like the other guys do.
Method airs, Kick flips, Street Plants (inverts) and Frontside/Backside Boneless... hilarious to watch now... Do an Invert for your son or neighbor kid, they are amazed.
Method airs, Kick flips, Street Plants (inverts) and Frontside/Backside Boneless... hilarious to watch now... Do an Invert for your son or neighbor kid, they are amazed.
I'm Skateboarding Every F'n Day and I can't believe how much I'm into it and progression is Crazy. I'm fully invested with an 8 element, an 8.25, & my new old school shaped deck with Ace 55s!!!
Carlus Lutz Savannah slamma was dope! I had that contest on vhs, my mom chucked it along with animal chin and public domain. Back then, I was pretty pissed. Hosoi and Cab crushed it 💯🔥
Just realized I had the models of like half the participants featured here, in the 3 years I skated (1986-89). In fact my first 3 boards were, in chronological order, a Gator, Roskopp, and Guerrero. I also skated a Cab, Grigley, and the last board I skated was a Gonz Vision - the original. I still have that board in storage, but it's battered to hell...especially the tail.
Nominay Am I crazy or did you have more old videos ? I could’ve sworn you were the one who had Rodney’s 1986 Oceanside street attack videos among others ...
@@Aglassact77 My sister dated him, and she can be seen at the end of the Oceanside interview hugging Rodney as the camera cuts out. She and my dad were there, not me. My Rodney videos were originals but I deleted the uploads. Most of them have been reuploaded by others.
@@NominayOh that makes sense, I’ve talked to you before on your old uploads several years back. I thought TH-cam maybe deleted your account or videos. Nice to hear from you. Rodney, lance, amongst many others were serious influences in my teenage years , so lost obscure skate videos like your’s Were very valuable to me. In my mind he’ll always be the greatest! Fun fact: My uncle Dave Dillberg was a Pro skateboarder in the 1970’s and pioneered long-boarding (mainly downhill) luge speed challenges on Signal hill . He and Hester were put in the Skateboarder Magazine for being the fastest skateboarder’, and inducted in the Guinness book of world records .
@@tranzco1173 What's weird for me is that in the 3 years I skated (86-89) I never recall ever seeing anyone skate mongo, even once ... not in other skate videos (including contests like these), anyone I knew or came across in my local scene, or at the two pro contests that I got to attend ... as well as the two pro demos I saw. It's just foreign to me to see anyone skating mongo here. Mongo must have quickly gone out of style by the end of '85. I know that mongo didn't start happening again until switch was new, in the early 90's. It was just too awkward then for skaters to start pushing "backwards" with the foot they had never used. Mark Gonzales was one of the few and probably the first to have never pushed mongo while going switch ... which by the way, he pioneered. At the time it was just weird. People thought, "Why is Mark bothering to skate backwards when he could just learn new tricks?" You have to remember, in 1987 the skating public and even the establishment pros still thought that street skating was only a fad, not an actual genre. It didn't occur to most skaters that street skating was here to stay until Public Domain came out a year later. People make a big deal about H-Street, but Shackle Me Not came out 3 months after PD. PD was a huge deal up to that point. It was the biggest revelation on what skating would be about, since Guerrero in Future Primative, 3 years earlier. Public Domain instantly made Animal Chin passe and embarrassingly dated, even though it came out less than a year and a half before PD. I know that from the day Public Domain was released I never fucking watched Chin again. We were enthralled by Public Domain, and then thrown off balance with shock when we saw Shackle Me Not. SMN was the start of skating going underground. It was just too much for a lot of skaters, and demystified the skate mythology of the 80's. A lot of people were really turned off by most of that video. I know I was. It's a strange thing to explain but people thought differently then. I didn't know any better. For one thing I was offended and surprised that there was not a single freestyle part. H Street didn't sponsor even one freestyler. This was unheard of. Looking back now it all makes sense of course. Anyway, it wasn't until Salman Agah in Ban This and Ron Chapman in Rubbish Heap, in 1989, that we saw anyone else other than Gonz even begin to skate what would later become known as "switch-stance". There are things about '80's street skating that I don't see anyone even remembering now. Like kickflips were called "kickflip ollies". What was originally called a 360 flip is what Chet Thomas did off a 2 ft pad in Public Domain. You can see the difference between these 360 flips and an impossible in Rubbish Heap, because I think Rodney Mullen does one immediately after an impossible before skating into grass. They look more like what are called 360 shuvits today. 360 shuvits were - and to this day in freestyle still are - what Ray Barbee did in Public Domain - a pivot off the nose, as was done in freestyle throughout the 80's. By 1992 no one was doing those either except for Mullen. What are now called tre flips were called 360 kickflips, up through 1992. What are called shuvits were called pop shuvits. When I started doing them in 1987 I had never seen anyone do one and stupidly thought that I had invented it! I called them "ollie varials". For the longest time only Natas Kaupus did them (although Mullen invented them (backside) in 1978). Mike Vallely was next to do them (in the outtake footage of Public Domain). He even does one landing one footed! In the actual video though he just does this no comply version with both feet somehow. I did them too, but with the standard one foot. What was originally called a bigspin was a pivot off the nose 360 with a body varial. I don't recall seeing the modern bigspin until Joe Rychebosch in Useless Wooden Toys. ::sigh::
@@Nominay Mongo was never in style, seen as "wrong" and I think it was eventually peer pressured out of skating. BUT, I think it was accepted, just rare, where I skated, Houston and then East Coast PA/NJ 1985-1991. When I was 12, my sister dated a vert dude sponsored by Sims. He never really told me HOW to push, we just skated around, so I pushed mongo. I don't think he thought street skating was serious, he was into like 12 ft vert ramps, so pushing wasn't even a thing to him. So yeah, then street was kinda what you did when you weren't skating vert, fooling around, slappies in a parking of 7-11 kinda thing. That changed in like 88-90 where I was, street took over and got big. Out of maybe 30 skaters in my scene, I think 2 or 3 of us pushed mongo. This was like 1987 or so. I always pushed mongo, and I think only a few people ever even mentioned it to me, and it wasn't called mongo, just pushing with front foot. I am also goofy foot, so I was a mess all around. I liked being able to minuted adjust the angle of the board before pushing, ran loose trucks, and did vert too, but mostly street, and was pretty good, never sponsored but close to the same level as a few guys who were. I am right handed, and bat baseball like a left handed person, which freaked out everyone always. I was a good hitter too, but I think there is something messed up with whatever controls right and left handed coordination. I couldn't bat normal and couldn't push well normally skating. Finally, I got out before skating got super technical and all weird with huge pants, when I stopped I was using tiny freestyle wheels I stole off my friends brothers old freestyle board, so I had the tiny wheels. But there wasn't this pressure to look or act a certain way. and we barely had videos to watch, just Natas and the Bones Brigade stuff. Nobody was ever telling me how to skate, or rules, or anything like that, which is why I loved it so much. Mongo does look much worse though, I can see why it's offensive to some people. The H street era was right when I stopped. Hensley was blowing up, and I could see everything changing rapidly. I don't skate anymore, but I like to watch. I lived in SF and would see everyone at the Embarcadero and Pier, and now I am in Albuquerque and they have an amazing public park here, I never ever skated anything like that ever, we were looking for tiny dirty ditches and banks. We would skate the same curb for like 5 hours. Every time I look at skating it's changed and the tricks have evolved to a point where I can't identify some of them. I did 360 nose pivots, like frontside ollie to axle stall on a bench. Then 360 off the nose. Even then, people were divided on it. We also wasted a lot of time on a tiny miniramp, like 3.5 feet tall.
The big tricks back then are hilarious compared to today. But this was my era. Powell Peralta Caballero board with Gullwing trucks and Bullets and had to have the Swiss bearings of course! Lol Those were the days. th-cam.com/video/0d8FTPv955I/w-d-xo.html GIRLS WE’RE GIRLS AND MEN WE’RE MEN…
Phonkadelic777 Yes. Several names of pro skaters here are misspelled. It's a reflection of how out of touch corporate, skate companies like Vision were.
This is right around the time people started to watch Rodney Mullen during the freestyle portions of the contest and realize something was happening. Normally no one watched that part of contests.
Gonz came out to shame everyone for the next 20 years or so lollololol Still up 'till the 90s he was ripping on a board much larger than what everyone else was riding, with some sweet style.
Johnee Kopp makes mongo pushing look so good Hosoi doing some fuckin' ripping. ATV! Gator sucks I could tell Cab wasn't having that good of a day. Still shredded Which of Mark's table ramp methods were better, going frontside off or backside?
This is funny, we’ve come a long way since. I’m glad to see skating evolve into what it is now. Keep on evolving, humans, you too.
That course set up cracks me up
Looks fucking fun.
What makes you the better skater around? Gonz- I just skate alot!
In his teens and already totally over the banal interviews.
Superb quality for a 31 yearold video.
Indeed. This contest in its entirety has been uploaded before, but in an improper ratio which left the quality lacking.
@@Nominay my man, if everyone understood that you don't fuck with ratios you leave them as they were originally the world would be a much better place.
@@Nominay I hate it when people mess with the ratios.
@@topproducts4349 Sometimes you have to adjust your settings to save them in the proper ratio depending on the video software you use.
Looks ok me should it be shitier?
its crazy how much skating changed in the next 5 or 6 years after this.
Could not agree more, It was still so primitive in 85!
Madeline Monahan I agree. It was a historical time having to do with the evolution of skateboarding, and that was all a phenomena within a certain time very different from today. You can never know it if you weren't there, but I do recommend Sean Cliver's book, "Disposable". It's a great read with awesome pictures.
1991-1992 was only one year and the difference between those two years is incredible. 55mm wheels in early ‘91 to bearing covers by late ‘92. Deck shapes, nose length, smaller trucks, flat mounting hardware, recessed truck mounting holes, etc.
It's amazing how much Gonz changed in the next 4 or 5 yrs...... This is before he was abducted by aliens and came back with anti gravity device implants in his head
I agree hard to watch....I would have blown them away
The first method air by Gonz wuz huge and his ollie up the bench at the end wuz clean on first try. He deserved 1st place IMHO.
The Gonz was so much more humble in his attitude, demeanor, and responses to those stupid interview questions. And then he FUCKN kills it on the board.
Awesome. Interesting that there weren't really even all that many ollies, aside from Gonz. Lots of people pushing mongo too. Cab had a kickass style back then too. Awesome bit of skating history. Thanks for posting.
Gonz 84-87 was devastating. Even his grip tape killed.
I'm still amazed he was 180 olling to 50/50 down the handrail in Ohio Skateout. I think that was '87 but the video came out in '88.
I started skateboarding in the 80s, I guess more late 80s. It went from Hosoi & Hawk launching huge airs to Natas & Gonz riding walls and rails. When Natas Ollied the hydrant 😮😮
@@Nominay It was '88. I was there. He was insane.
That contest was so much fun and out of control. Such amazing memories and stories of the parties the night before and getting thrown out of the hotel next to the pier.
Tell us more 😃
Rest assured, if Gator was involved, you just knew it was going to be a shit show of epic proportions. He was the Keith Moon of skateboarding, straight up party animal rockstar.....right before he went off the deep end. In fact, the guy was always nuts lol!!,
@@crazyralph6386 I sensed that about him then. Wasn't too surprised about the murder, shocking as it was. That documentary on him/that was so damn disturbing and sad.
In 1985 street skating was basically just dorking around having fun. A fs 180 over a parking block was a legit trick that got cheers. Three years later Hokus Pokus came out and had a tre flip down an 8 set, bs flip off a bump over a full size garbage can, fs boards down real handrails, long flatbar grinds etc. What an era.
This is how I like to skate now. Good video man!
Thanks dude.
OMG I used to have this video tape back in 1988. It bring back so much memories. Thank you.
Go Gonz!! He has stayed amazing since the beginning! A true artist on and off the board. Humble and real. 🤘🤙
Wow, this is a treasure! Great video, thanks so much for the upload. This deserves 1M views.
Ur welcome fella.
Ahhhhh-To be 12 yrs old again. My biggest worry was when the new issue of Thrasher or Transworld was coming out. Johnee Kop rocking out to 7 seconds!!
The first method air that Gonz did was textbook awesome.
I haven't skated since probably 90 or 91. I didn't even know the word mongo existed until I started watching videos recently. Nobody cared as long as you could make your tricks.
Word! I stopped in '92, mongo or mall grab wasn't a thing.
Mongo definitely was ,, in London in 1988 I heard : ah he’s pushing mongo :
I heard mongo by 90 in the US
Gonz @ 9:41
Thanks
I hope the 15 minutes wasn't too long for you guys, but I wanted to provide some context. I whittled down this almost 2 hour long contest video to 15 minutes - not bad! :-)
Dude that Jon Kop 360 off that box was sick af. Fucking ninja.
Did anyone else notice that Cab tried a 360 shuv and manual? That frontside slappy was sick too
On Powell 3 wheels too. Only mountain board wheels are bigger.
I wish they still had this type of obstacle competition available for the public to enter. Skating today has become stupidly complicated and technical and not as fun as something like this looks
Skating has progressed more than any of these guys in 1985 could’ve
ever imagined.
Imagine someone doing a 360 kickflip down 15 stairs back in those days or an Ollie impossible over that 55 gallon drum they have sitting out there on that course.
@@montanaplease most of these skaters weren’t even street skaters. They were very dudes trying to figure out how to street skate to stay relevant as the vert seen was beginning to take a back set to the rawness of street. I will say the level of progress from these NSA contests in mid 80’s to early 90’s was really fucking mind blowing.
Oh and I know that cause I was 11 and at this event. And was huge into street skating. Actually the year after this was another NSA street contest and even better cause the vert dudes were gone and it was pure street (for the most part) and I think the weekend after that was CASL and I won highest Ollie.
@@scottlandb6579watching Gator try to street skate is hilarious. Fuck that scumbag
I'm going to see agent orange tonight. for real. great vid
I didn't expect them to know my name...
I would love it if there were competitions like that near me.
That tire stall was epic
...
even back when he was a kid, he was the man!
Rodney Mullen was one of his key influences (in developing street skating). That was the difference between him and most others.
@@Nominay I think the Ollie and Kickflip inspired him...... But the rest was all Mark
@@terrybates5509 I recommend reading about the influence of the Mullen "Trix You Can't Do" article from Thrasher fall of '86 - the issue after Gonz was featured on the cover.
Everyone complaining about these dudes pushing mongo forgot the number 1 rule in skateboarding. There are no rules.
It's okay to see mongo as poor form imo, but it's not okay to let it bother you.
When I started skating in 84, nobody handed me a manual on how to skate. Nobody really skated where I come from in rural NC at the time. Mongo is just how I learned to push. I never had any issue with it, and nobody ever said anything to me about it. And I used to be shop sponsored, and did decent in contests.
@@ZEMO74 My friend coined the term Goofy Goof for that, that's how I ride :)
But style matters! And mongo push just does not look like street surfing, it has no flow.
@@laboutique6257 tell Rob Roskopp that he has no style hahahaha
Baby Gonz is adorable.
Hosoi was competing in it as well, mindblown!
He was one of the best street skaters in the 80's.
Try and ollie over a curb on a Hosoi Hammerhead fully loaded with accessories ! that was a trick in itself.
Hackett .....stylin` for days.
Hosoi himself was one of the first street skaters to get off the ground. In the mid 80's he could ollie higher than Gonz.
Got to love the 80s Where are car tire is an obstacle. And by God they used it!
I could maybe place in this, maybe not.
This video rules! Have you ever noticed in all those old contests or videos that Bill Danforth never does a trick that requires and ollie?
Bill Danforth wears it as an odd badge of honor that he's never done an Ollie. it's as if to him, to do one would be selling out. I know that Duane Peters had disdain for ollies, as if they weren't hardcore for "real" rippers like him.
Nominay yeah Duane Peters and other skaters like him were odd. Idk how you even go around the city without the Ollie.
Neither Hackett
He got 3rd
Kind a like Christian never really likes doing front side anything on a ramp
Gonz killed it, my first pro board 💯
You can tell how alien street skating was to everyone. I remember those days well. We thought we were king sh#t if we could ride a nose wheelie like that. lol!!!
Not to many people could do it then or now so i would definitely think you where king shit
Damn. Hsoi and Gonz had steeze
80s is the best Gonz skating.
Punkest kid there, Mark Gonzalez fucking rules.
0:18 bolts!
:D
Holy shit I’m dead
The golden age.
Man! Where was this gem hiding?
10:19 a young Jeff Grosso sitting beside Cab
Paddy O'Lantern Correct.
if you had a Gonzo deck back then you were saying “I’m a street skater”
Stevie Cab Ollie to Manual in 1985!!!!!!!!
Gonz, Natas and Mike V were way ahead of their time.
Amzing how 3 years after this in 1987/88 it evolved into what it is today.
~You can str8^ see how The Gonz changed it..
Dude was doing lil ollie shifties,,180's over stuff, That 180 manny on the funbox and the axel stall..
*The Following year they would be doing the 180's and The Gonz would be kickflipping over the same curb..
I would say he changed Skating for the better where Mullen for the worse..
Man they so need a propper movie made about The Gonz but My God we needed The Phelper to be involved(rip)
Mullen changed skating for the worse? I'm not sure how anyone changes skating like that. Someone else will end up coming up with a trick if it's not done first by one of the lauded pioneers.
@@Nominay lol skating wasn't about flip tricks or even kickflips until they coppied freestylers.. It was still gnarly before flip tricks..
You just aren't aware of the "Freestyle conspiracy".
Grosso even did a Love Letters episode on it before he died(rip)
~but he didn't create the conspiracy or the beef. it was already established by dudes who hated freestyle skater.
I'll leav eit there since you don't agree .
gonz was n is the fukn man , u heard ! a true legend !!!
11:06
So Awesome to see this after all these years! So many pros out there and did anybody notice, no kickflips at all?!
260woodman I'm thinking to myself, damn I could have been pro! lol
Gonz tries to do a kickflip in Oceanside '86. Earliest attempt of one I recall at a pro contest on video.
I lived on the Strand back in those days. I remember this competition. Once I saw this I was hooked. Who remembers skating the bowl next to William Shattners house?
If you have any stories that involve Shattner himself I'd love to hear it.
I thought it was painful watching Gator's attempts at being relevant during the street skate transition years in 'Stoked', but, apparently, he sucked at street skating even before then.
It was the price a pro skater paid for sticking only to vert. Mike McGill noticably depleted his career the same way, except he didn't bother skating street contests. He doesn't even do any of the archaic street skating in Animal Chin, like the other guys do.
💯😂💯😂💯
True
Method airs, Kick flips, Street Plants (inverts) and Frontside/Backside Boneless... hilarious to watch now... Do an Invert for your son or neighbor kid, they are amazed.
course is so funny compared to today - like they used whatever was around on the lot
Shelby literally had a tire 😂😂
when you feel old cuz it's the only skate video on TH-cam that you know most of the songs
Shelby I edited Agent Orange on there. The actual soundtrack that was done for the video originally is truly cheesy.
Met Danforth at Skatopia 98. Righteous dude.
I used to skate back then and just got back into it. Boards are a lot different but so are the tricks! I can't believe I can still kick flip!
Method airs, Kick flips, Street Plants (inverts) and Frontside/Backside Boneless... hilarious to watch now... Do an Invert for your son or neighbor kid, they are amazed.
I'm Skateboarding Every F'n Day and I can't believe how much I'm into it and progression is Crazy. I'm fully invested with an 8 element, an 8.25, & my new old school shaped deck with Ace 55s!!!
watch this and then watch savannah slamma.... talk about evolution.
TheTruthNothingMoreNeverLess Exactly!!!💯💯 Me and my homies were there!!
Carlus Lutz Savannah slamma was dope! I had that contest on vhs, my mom chucked it along with animal chin and public domain. Back then, I was pretty pissed. Hosoi and Cab crushed it 💯🔥
Old school is still better
Sam Stoner word
What memories... i learned to ollie on a GSD board
Doing some grinders and rock and rolls
Dude that's fucking Agent Orange!
Just realized I had the models of like half the participants featured here, in the 3 years I skated (1986-89). In fact my first 3 boards were, in chronological order, a Gator, Roskopp, and Guerrero. I also skated a Cab, Grigley, and the last board I skated was a Gonz Vision - the original. I still have that board in storage, but it's battered to hell...especially the tail.
Nominay Am I crazy or did you have more old videos ? I could’ve sworn you were the one who had Rodney’s 1986 Oceanside street attack videos among others ...
@@Aglassact77 My sister dated him, and she can be seen at the end of the Oceanside interview hugging Rodney as the camera cuts out. She and my dad were there, not me. My Rodney videos were originals but I deleted the uploads. Most of them have been reuploaded by others.
What were you thinking when Gator got arrested and convicted for that horrific crime?
@@chrisperez3614You mean my reaction at the time, in 1991?
@@NominayOh that makes sense, I’ve talked to you before on your old uploads several years back. I thought TH-cam maybe deleted your account or videos. Nice to hear from you. Rodney, lance, amongst many others were serious influences in my teenage years , so lost obscure skate videos like your’s Were very valuable to me. In my mind he’ll always be the greatest!
Fun fact:
My uncle Dave Dillberg was a Pro skateboarder in the 1970’s and pioneered long-boarding (mainly downhill) luge speed challenges on Signal hill . He and Hester were put in the Skateboarder Magazine for being the fastest skateboarder’, and inducted in the Guinness book of world records .
You can see Gonz was way ahead of everyone else.
Schmeltzer was way ahead of the game with that run just foreshadowing pop!
so much mongo..
I started skating in 84, and pushed mongo, didn't know there was anything wrong with it. Nobody ever said anything to me until early 90's.
barkeep25 hahahah foreal
@@tranzco1173 What's weird for me is that in the 3 years I skated (86-89) I never recall ever seeing anyone skate mongo, even once ... not in other skate videos (including contests like these), anyone I knew or came across in my local scene, or at the two pro contests that I got to attend ... as well as the two pro demos I saw. It's just foreign to me to see anyone skating mongo here. Mongo must have quickly gone out of style by the end of '85.
I know that mongo didn't start happening again until switch was new, in the early 90's. It was just too awkward then for skaters to start pushing "backwards" with the foot they had never used. Mark Gonzales was one of the few and probably the first to have never pushed mongo while going switch ... which by the way, he pioneered. At the time it was just weird. People thought, "Why is Mark bothering to skate backwards when he could just learn new tricks?" You have to remember, in 1987 the skating public and even the establishment pros still thought that street skating was only a fad, not an actual genre. It didn't occur to most skaters that street skating was here to stay until Public Domain came out a year later. People make a big deal about H-Street, but Shackle Me Not came out 3 months after PD. PD was a huge deal up to that point. It was the biggest revelation on what skating would be about, since Guerrero in Future Primative, 3 years earlier. Public Domain instantly made Animal Chin passe and embarrassingly dated, even though it came out less than a year and a half before PD. I know that from the day Public Domain was released I never fucking watched Chin again. We were enthralled by Public Domain, and then thrown off balance with shock when we saw Shackle Me Not. SMN was the start of skating going underground. It was just too much for a lot of skaters, and demystified the skate mythology of the 80's. A lot of people were really turned off by most of that video. I know I was. It's a strange thing to explain but people thought differently then. I didn't know any better. For one thing I was offended and surprised that there was not a single freestyle part. H Street didn't sponsor even one freestyler. This was unheard of. Looking back now it all makes sense of course.
Anyway, it wasn't until Salman Agah in Ban This and Ron Chapman in Rubbish Heap, in 1989, that we saw anyone else other than Gonz even begin to skate what would later become known as "switch-stance".
There are things about '80's street skating that I don't see anyone even remembering now. Like kickflips were called "kickflip ollies". What was originally called a 360 flip is what Chet Thomas did off a 2 ft pad in Public Domain. You can see the difference between these 360 flips and an impossible in Rubbish Heap, because I think Rodney Mullen does one immediately after an impossible before skating into grass. They look more like what are called 360 shuvits today. 360 shuvits were - and to this day in freestyle still are - what Ray Barbee did in Public Domain - a pivot off the nose, as was done in freestyle throughout the 80's. By 1992 no one was doing those either except for Mullen. What are now called tre flips were called 360 kickflips, up through 1992. What are called shuvits were called pop shuvits. When I started doing them in 1987 I had never seen anyone do one and stupidly thought that I had invented it! I called them "ollie varials". For the longest time only Natas Kaupus did them (although Mullen invented them (backside) in 1978). Mike Vallely was next to do them (in the outtake footage of Public Domain). He even does one landing one footed! In the actual video though he just does this no comply version with both feet somehow. I did them too, but with the standard one foot. What was originally called a bigspin was a pivot off the nose 360 with a body varial. I don't recall seeing the modern bigspin until Joe Rychebosch in Useless Wooden Toys. ::sigh::
@@Nominay Mongo was never in style, seen as "wrong" and I think it was eventually peer pressured out of skating.
BUT, I think it was accepted, just rare, where I skated, Houston and then East Coast PA/NJ 1985-1991. When I was 12, my sister dated a vert dude sponsored by Sims.
He never really told me HOW to push, we just skated around, so I pushed mongo. I don't think he thought street skating was serious, he was into like 12 ft vert ramps, so pushing wasn't even a thing to him. So yeah, then street was kinda what you did when you weren't skating vert, fooling around, slappies in a parking of 7-11 kinda thing.
That changed in like 88-90 where I was, street took over and got big.
Out of maybe 30 skaters in my scene, I think 2 or 3 of us pushed mongo. This was like 1987 or so.
I always pushed mongo, and I think only a few people ever even mentioned it to me, and it wasn't called mongo, just pushing with front foot. I am also goofy foot, so I was a mess all around. I liked being able to minuted adjust the angle of the board before pushing, ran loose trucks, and did vert too, but mostly street, and was pretty good, never sponsored but close to the same level as a few guys who were.
I am right handed, and bat baseball like a left handed person, which freaked out everyone always. I was a good hitter too, but I think there is something messed up with whatever controls right and left handed coordination. I couldn't bat normal and couldn't push well normally skating.
Finally, I got out before skating got super technical and all weird with huge pants, when I stopped I was using tiny freestyle wheels I stole off my friends brothers old freestyle board, so I had the tiny wheels. But there wasn't this pressure to look or act a certain way. and we barely had videos to watch, just Natas and the Bones Brigade stuff. Nobody was ever telling me how to skate, or rules, or anything like that, which is why I loved it so much. Mongo does look much worse though, I can see why it's offensive to some people.
The H street era was right when I stopped. Hensley was blowing up, and I could see everything changing rapidly.
I don't skate anymore, but I like to watch. I lived in SF and would see everyone at the Embarcadero and Pier, and now I am in Albuquerque and they have an amazing public park here, I never ever skated anything like that ever, we were looking for tiny dirty ditches and banks. We would skate the same curb for like 5 hours. Every time I look at skating it's changed and the tricks have evolved to a point where I can't identify some of them. I did 360 nose pivots, like frontside ollie to axle stall on a bench. Then 360 off the nose. Even then, people were divided on it. We also wasted a lot of time on a tiny miniramp, like 3.5 feet tall.
One of the pioneers of never pushing mongo switch, was also Fred Gall. Fuck, he was such a beast in the 90s. Switch for days!
To think I skated the same spot Gonzo did back in the day before I even knew he existed
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The big tricks back then are hilarious compared to today. But this was my era. Powell Peralta Caballero board with Gullwing trucks and Bullets and had to have the Swiss bearings of course! Lol Those were the days.
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GIRLS WE’RE GIRLS AND MEN WE’RE MEN…
Caballero, Gonzales, Guerrero.
Plenty of aggression, not too many grinders or rock n rolls though...
Love this shit!
Mark's part @ 9:41
Mark was pushing the limits of the sport everytime he went out and rode.
MARK... DID YOU CLEAN UR ROOM & MAKE YOUR BED???
@@markprice2225 Sure, yeah , sure
❤ Gonz!..........and Rogowski was such a tool.
style and agresssion
:)
Gonz. Killed it
Mark Gonzales skating to The Cure is sick and surreal.
Just came to say the same thing. Stoked.
Interesting that Christian Hosoi is skating to a song made by one of the competitors
It was a supportive community among peers then for the most part.
@@Nominay Still is.
@@jasondashney It was so small then compared to now.
From 85 to 95 it made its biggest leap
Same with rap music.
great soundtrack wish I could say the same for the quality of skateboarding. some guys like Gonz always ripped,though
Thanks. That part I did. The music originally put to this is hideous.
i was expecting to see him be in is younger years not being as good as his elders, but WOAH!! h was clearly the best there!!!
Skate and destroy....rad moves ..cool Kat's....skating is my favorite crime...
"Rob Rostkop" ??? Is that Rob Rosskop of Santa Cruz?
Phonkadelic777 Yes. Several names of pro skaters here are misspelled. It's a reflection of how out of touch corporate, skate companies like Vision were.
*Roskopp
@@kietro8319 lol at myself
What trick does mark do at 11:16? Something about the camera angle is messing with my mind.
I think that pivot landing was called an ollie shifty.
Where's Natas??
He was still am in 85.
@@Nominay You just reminded me of the ‘86 Oceanside contest where Natas fell a lot but tried some rad stuff
@@kietro8319 My sister and dad were there. What a historical contest.
6:31 My Secret Garden with Roskcop =)
Was that the band or the track? It's wicked
That Agent Orange song is like on every skate video from the 80s lol
There are 3 different Agent Orange songs on here.
Soundtrack cool !
Gotta find the full steve Rocco part. Aha and Rocco an artistic masterpiece
It was a brand new song then.
Nominay it’s over 30 years and I still jamming to it baby
@@DaBears08 And to this day one of the best music videos.
Brings back memories!! But looking back at this....I could have went pro! 💯😂💯
Anyone know the song playing during Mark's run?
Rafael Avina "Give Me It" by The Cure
Thanks!
Steve’s interview was funny 😆
Bill Danforth with hair
I was searching for this comment 🤣😂
Who needs Rob Roskopp when you have Rob Rostkop. 6:28
corporate mentality - they couldn't even bother to care or know to get the names right
This is right around the time people started to watch Rodney Mullen during the freestyle portions of the contest and realize something was happening. Normally no one watched that part of contests.
Is that 7 Seconds doing 99 Red Balloons?
Totally
Its crazy how people who didn't know skating knew what landing a trick was
Gonz came out to shame everyone for the next 20 years or so lollololol
Still up 'till the 90s he was ripping on a board much larger than what everyone else was riding, with some sweet style.
Does this location still exist?
Exact same
I dont think people truely realize how old this is, back then just one year was a huge difference in skateboarding progression.
Plus skateboarding evolved very quickly. It's like comparing dog years to human years.
Johnee Kopp makes mongo pushing look so good
Hosoi doing some fuckin' ripping. ATV!
Gator sucks
I could tell Cab wasn't having that good of a day. Still shredded
Which of Mark's table ramp methods were better, going frontside off or backside?
Mark did both equally otherworldly; that's what makes him the Gonz.
This video introduced me to the song Pipeline!!
I recommend the whole Living In Darkness album.
i skated a Mark GONZales board in the 80s...
I finally got around to skating an original Gonz Vision in '89. It was indeed a good board for that time.