What really pisses me off is that the original victim of Dream's grooming to come forward, with actual evidence linking directly to Dream, months & months ago, has been forgotten underneath the pile of "drama" & controversy
@@Ebh55. I don't remember her name but she was 17 & had screenshots & videos of her conversations with Dream on his Snapchat & his personal Snapchat, going back over a year. In the videos/screen recordings she went through the steps from the convos she was showing all the way to his Snapchat etc, so there was no doubt it was him. In the convos he was asking her (a minor) for lewd/nude pictures, commenting sexually on regular pictures she was posting publicly, talking to her sexually & asking her to reply in the same way, etc. She also had screen recording of DM's with him on his Instagram, where he was the same way. He did respond to her on Twitter, stating he had believed she was 18 the whole time & therefore he did nothing wrong.
People disregarded her story because she was a groomer herself but that doesnt change anything? Even if it was confirmed that amanda was a groomer, that doesnt mean she cant also be a victim of grooming? 😭 ive never seen any evidence disproving her claims too its just dream stans trying to defend him but never actually proving anything..
"Hire a Harvard professor to calculate why despite texting every twitch streamer in Austin nobody wanted to f*k you" - Gumball really pulverised Dream . 😂
I like how y’all say this and completely dismissed of how much of a piece of shit that guy is, just because he is against Dream and you guys didnt like Dream because your fav content creators says so 😂 in any other situation you would’ve ranted so much more about him but nope, not this time, he gets the pass, just like that your virtue signaling got flipped 180 degree 😂😂😂😂😂 also, you’re a pedophile and a groomer and I have screenshot of it, so just trust me okay regardless if a plain and simple screenshot is as easily editable as a youtube comment, but trust me okay, but it’ll probably not work anyway since people doesnt hate you enough, and in order for a pedophile to be taken accountability he needs to be a “narcissist” first, otherwise all pedo gets a pass by Twitter, 16 years old post puberty Minecraft childrens and the 13 to 15 years old Charlie viewers that he himself is just as narcissistic bipolar and a hypocrite as any of those he talked shit about 🤷🏻♂️
If his videos had more depth I'd think that too but this is very surfaces level, he didn't even show half of what pyro did in terms of video and tweets, dream admitted to sending that moaning audio as well which he must have missed in his mess of strings and tweet print outs....smh
so glad you made this video. i've had friends ask me what i think about the Dream drama and i've told them "I have no idea" then they get mad at me for 'not picking a side, when someone's clearly in the wrong' i'm not saying that. i'm saying that i literally have no clue what's going on over there and there's too many people saying too many things for me to even try to untangle the mess. It's crazy.
If they are that hung up on some petty drama that was solved not even too long ago and are mad at you for not understanding should they even be friends with you? Just my opinion is all.
@@hoshi6539no by getting someone under the drinking age drunk and then filming a video with the intentions of using it against Nick one day instead of helping him out
@@trashman11 The whole slur thing has always been dumb. They're just insults, no different than "stupid" or "idiot", just because some 16 year olds cry on twitter, people are afraid they'll ruin their careers so that's why everyone's scared of them. Not like there is a law against them that sentences you to 10 years for each slur. It's just people looking for things to worry about, fight others for since they have no problems in their lives.
The people making fake allegations are essentially aiding him by obscuring whatever it is he's guilty of. I trust you to update us on the facts that come to light
When your fanbase is entirely composed of quirky 13 year olds, you can't really expect things to be logical and factual. You can only run away as fast as possible.
The only exception is Markiplier. That dude can make thirst-traps, make a calendar with nude photos, MAKE AN ONLY FANS with the same fan base ages as Dream and still have everyone’s side with him. Halo effect
@@jahn77I think markiplier fanbase has grown up or aged up with the years passing also he is actually hot so I dont mind seeing a thirst trap, have not seen dream thirst trap but I feel like that would be a literal JUMPSCARE
maybe 'cause the majority of markiplier fans have grown up and are now either teens or early adults. his entire fanbase isn't composed of 13 year olds, and he's also not up here chatting them up either.@@jahn77
I’m not a fan of dream but holy FUCK it’s incredible to see, regardless of how many creators are falsely accused, that this many people will immediately disregard truth or his side of the story. Have we not learned enough from the dozens of situations just like this? Slazo? Pyrocynical?
I KNOW RIGHT?! like people really love to hop on the hate trains of people theyre jealous or spiteful of and dont even listen to their side even if they can prove it😭props to his legal team for working all of these months. kinda goes to show that no matter how hard you try you can still get fucked over by enough random people hating you for something you didnt do. humans are spooky
@@ahlogic5960 in a sense, it was. It was explicit material of another person used in a spiteful or vengeful manner, assumedly without that persons consent. That does not equate to him taking ownership of the audio.
"Here's the evidence for that" Oh man, never in my life have I lowered the volume so fast... Like, my fuckin' lizard brain kicked in, pushing my conscious state down for a moment. My thumbs were Flash Stepping lol.
Yeah, I guess it's because are just naturally against him. Most people probably wouldn't even bother seeing the evidence and reading the argument, they'll just be against him.
That's cuz it's so trendy to hate on dream that even if courts rule him as entirely innocent, the internet would still want its witch hunt and would not care.
Dream's presence on the Internet has to be the weirdest thing I have ever seen in years. Dude was the shit for about a few weeks, and then he just attracted the most brutal hate for the rest of his career. There is absolutely no way he can win Edit: Fucking jinxed it TL;DR: Quit dogpiling on this dude
To be fair, it was more like a few months. And he and the people around him probably got enough money and attention from that stuff to make it worth while. Thing is, when you're a super popular minecraft TH-cam with a whole bunch of kids who aggressively defend you, you're just gonna get hate. What he could really do, is handle it with maturity. And that is precisely what he failed at. At first I used to think the guy was a teenager himself with the sh1t he said. But it's actually wild when I learned the guy is in his 20s. He's my age but acts like my younger brother lmao
Tbf, he fed so much into it. Have you seen the tweet where some rando teenager with 12 followers called Dream's merch ugly and Dream retweeted it calling the teenager ugly and sending his entire fanbase after them. He's wild, absolute 0 self control or acknowledgement about what his insane fanbase does to the people he attacks.
Holy shit people should be ashamed of themselves. where is the proof. no where. ' oh look a screen shot" so? that could be easily faked. it is amazing how people just grab onto things without anything
Charlie not believing that some men randomly send moaning clips to people is quite wholesome. He has clearly never seen the sh*t people send on Snapchat and I respect that.
It’s probably because everyone on all ends of the spectrum hate him so it spins out of control since basically no one is on his side and would love to spread news of him doing something bad regardless of whether it’s true or not lol Edit: like I don’t like him very much but I’ve learned not to believe whatever Twitter says about him because what lol
@@kx7500honestly it seems more untamed with Dream drama-- probably because of the young feral audience and Dream not shutting up and just making things worse
This situation is so bizarre. Once you read the allegations and the alleged proof provided against Dream, you come to realize that none of it is actually enough to even begin to make him seem guilty. However, his inability to just shut the fuck up has completely destroyed people's willingness to side with him, even if he is right in the end
The "allegations" are ridiculous. I only just found out about this man today, but let him live his life. If the young woman agrees to come over his house, then let them be. There's nothing wrong with 24 and 17 in most states, just like there's nothing wrong with 34 and 17, and we cant help it if younger women offer us more and aren't as compromised as their older counterparts. It's 2023. We're not trying to buy a Sega Saturn, ya feel me.
@@Zenigundam well if that ain't bait i don't know what the fuck is lmao. regardless, a minor is a minor, and it IS wrong in most states, so kindly shuffle your dumbass out the door my guy.
Everything I've seen from Dream is like a giant lesson in knowing when to shut up. People throw these allegations at Dream to troll or whatever, Dream bends over backwards and addresses absolutely everything thus giving the accusers exactly what they want, and the allegations continue. He needs to get off the internet for like a few months at least if he wants to avoid insanity or jail time
Dream's downfall is literally because he spends most of his day responding to trolls on Twitter. He is obsessed with Twitter to an unhealthy degree and needs someone to keep him off the app for a whole month.
Not necessarily related to Charlie's take, but I think if we're going to go after Dream for posting normal pictures of his face or even wanting to look good in his photos as problematic or it being weird because of his audience's age, you're going to have to dismantle the entire music and movie industry who targets pre-teens with attractive boys who are older than them. People like the Dolan Twins existed for years, whose target audience was solely teenage girls who thought they were attractive. They would of course play to this angle and provide some level of fan service for these underage girls, but they were never criticized or considered 'predatory,' yet Dream is because of the stigma around the Minecraft community and the deep hatred Twitter has for this dude, and he isn't even trying to thirst trap or look attractive for an underage female audience. Dream is a guy who grew up with a weight issue and immediately upon revealing his face to the public got called hideous, I'm sure he wants to also improve his image by posting pictures other than what is shown in his face reveal. Is it really unreasonable for him to post pictures in which he actually looks good? Does that make him a creep? I don't think so personally.
Seriously tho. Sometimes its best to just turn replys off dip off social media for like a month and just go on series of trips or vacation or sum. Seriously a month in the real world is like a year on the internet lol. Ppl will completely forget. This is how politicians and congressman touch children and shit and suddenly everyones talking ab something else within like 2 weeks lmao. That or if the scandals big enough ppl start dissapearing.
Not sure about that, there can be outliers. Take Boyinaband for example, he's been inactive for years and got many allegations against him, and no matter what he is going to do, his reputation is destroyed.
Can’t stay silent when the accusations are this serious though. Edit: although I’d admit there is a fine balance to be had, somewhere between staying silent and spamming twitter with long ass essays.
@@gergoretvari6373there are times to be silent and times to address things, I think. If boyinaband was able to completely debunk everything, for example what Kwite did when he had allegations made against him, that would’ve been a time to speak up and defend himself. In boyinabands case, there are a few things that do point to him maybe having done some of what was alleged against him, and since he’s been silent and hasn’t defended himself at all, it adds fuel to the fire and makes him a lot more ‘guilty seeming’. Now dream is different, dream is just a loudmouth dumbass and no matter what he did it would’ve been a failure.
Charlie saying that people often tke the allegations at face value and just run along with them because they hate dream is so incredibly spot on and its backed up by all the comments in this video lol
Too bad Charlie and you haven't gone into depth about the topic at all Watching this video, its very apparent Charlie just saw some tweets, saw a video, and wanted to make a quick video for easy views. He even says he's confused multiple times in the video. Bro has no idea about this topic because he can't be bothered to put some actual effort into researching it
@reyalfa18 While there's no concrete evidence, there's definitely some evidence that's much more than just incredibly shaky that's surfaced recently But of course, Charlie didn't go over any of that because he simply can't be bothered to put effort into making a video like this
@@shaunduzstuffsor maybe because he knows he can’t accuse someone of something no matter how much evidence he finds. He’s not a detective just a guy. This isn’t a topic he can dive into and without creating his own stir of controversy. He’s smart and doesn’t want unnecessary drama plus he knows he doesn’t have the ability to deem him guilty or not. No one does unless they are actually involved and have real evidence to go on.
Honestly I’m kind of shocked there hasn’t been a part two to this video. Don’t get me wrong I don’t expect an apology video or for him to take back anything he said here, I’m not a fool, but Dream’s response video was a HUGE deal on the internet and that fact that Charlie never made a video on it after it came out is genuinely shocking to me. This is right up his alley in terms of content but he never touched it
Because then charlie would have to admit he was wrong lmao He did however watch it on stream. Well, he watched 1/3 of it, made a shitty response saying "yeah but im still right" then called it quits
@@tweenytwinkies He literally talked about this in his tweet, he was drunk and didn't mean to say those things, he knew what he did was wrong.. also he can reclaim the said slurs he said 😭 also apparently he was going thru a manic (?) episode ?
@@ColeCassidyishotbruh whooo cares that he was drunk, it was literally harassing a stranger. also, reclaiming a slur doesn’t mean you can just use it as a slur. that’s not the same thing. reclaiming insinuates that there is power in what you’re doing and taking it back from your oppressor. calling someone the f word and r word as an insult isn’t reclaiming anything, you’re just calling someone a slur
Looking back at this vid after watching the response shows how wrong Charlie and his audience is. Including me, as someone who was sorta a dream hater For him being cringey and incredibly biased towards Charlie. I’ve gotta say Charlie is definitely wrong on this one and I hope he addresses it.
He did on stream never watched, but I've seen a clip of it. Also hopefully you didn't believe that dream was a pedo 100% bc this vid litterly says to me these allegations aren't 100%. He was wrong about the pics tho. Well I believe I can't remember the reaction mind you what I'm talking about is about the thirst trap pics. In my opinion dream should've been stoped texting that lady but I get it he was just trying to be nice which In turn made a weirdo that accused him of some fucked shit.
@@mrduck375 He watched a extremely tiny portion of the video about one of the more miniscule factors, made a comment on it when he has no place to since he didn't finish the video, and then has failed to address it since. If he isn't making a new video on the situation then frankly I'm disgusted.
If Dream would just keep his mouth shut about petty drama, he would not get nearly the amount of hate he does. Hating on Dream is a trend that would've died a long time ago if he would just ignore it and move on with his life. It's wild that his reputation is so bad that he can get randomly assaulted by someone he barely knows and he's still made out to be the bad guy in the situation.
Honestly regardless on if he is or isn’t guilty of all the allegations, him getting into petty drama doesn’t help his image and his reputation is going down.
Some important context - Dream actually did confirm that those moaning audios were real. There’s no question on whether it’s a fake Snapchat account, his claim is that they were sent to someone of age.
The fact that "Sam Dream" is a listed contact in this person's phone does give some merit to the idea that they know Dream's ex. He claims it's revenge p. Anything that's connected to his ex needs to be taken with not a grain, but a mountain worth of salt.
imagine the amazing world of gumball producers just casually drop the new season with that banger episode of him beating the shit out of a smiling image that can speak
Bruh, don’t know why, but heading Charlie say “Dream vs gumball” in a mono-tone voice made me laugh hysterically💀💀 it’s like the shitting unicorns taken to court debacle
You'd think a manipulative narcissist would be good at being that, but Dream has the worst case of verbal diarrhea I've ever seen on Twitter right now.
If you ever feel sad remember there are people online who actively harras some random ass adult all because he maybe faked his speedrun and has a LGBT fanbase that ships him with his friend Some random ass egotistical voice actor who only has one role under his belt called him slurs and assaulted him and they’re going after dream 😂
The first time I ever heard of Dream was because of drama. The second time after not hearing him for months was because of drama. The third time again is because of drama. He's like a controversy magnet.
@@MrUssy101are you trolling or literally just this slow? I see you’re just a troll now 100+ comments and one said “fist incel Charlie was against my favorite person pokimane now SSSniperwolf”
People are saying that him calling it "Revenge porn" rather than just saying "It wasn't me" is damning evidence of his guilt, but it could also be bad wording, which I'm lead to believe Dream does a lot. Either way, his reactions to all of this isn't helping his case.
I think he was trying his hardest to sound professional and serious about it because it's a very serious problem. Issue is he is using language that he doesn't fully understand in the process. The tweet was basically him saying It's not to be taken lightly that a video without proof is being used to essentially slander him. Also people argue that he should have said it wasn't him, but literally anything he says will be interpreted as admission of guilt right now. Hell even if he didn't say anything, people would have still thought the same.
Thing is technically speaking even if the person in it isn't dream. but the person is claiming it to be him, would fall under revenge porn I believe. (Though only in some states)
@@okenough2124 Revenge porn is when someone uses pornographic media from picture to recordings etc to essentially harm the image of someone. (This isn’t an exact definition but is just how I’d explain it) Its most commonly done by ex lovers, or done too former pornstars. Rather than a defense its an accusation, saying they are doing something wrong/illegal.
Arguably, you can classify deepfake or mimicry of someone in pornographic content with the purpose to harm their image as 'revenge-porn', how that'd work legally, would be very questionable, but, yeah. I don't believe him calling it 'Revenge Porn' necessarily solidifies his guilt, but it is a very odd choice of a thing to say in one's defense. It's suspicious, but not confirming of anything.
Not necessarily. If someone took random pictures of someone, put it through one of those deep fakes or ai generated programs to make a sex vid or naked pictures, and then post to the internet, I'd say that is a type of revenge porn. So I don't think it's that unreasonable for him to refer to it as revenge porn. Whether he did it or not, is still up in the air.
@@Irishxlily Not to mention if the audio was real, it could have been sent to a consenting adult party instead, which makes the moniker of ‘revenge porn’ make more sense. As always the waters get muddier
@@Irishxlily Does AI shit or an impersonation really count though? I always understood revenge porn as a shitty ex partner releasing private video/audio/images to hurt someone. His use of the term just rubbed me the wrong way here, not saying it's proof of anything. Also, like I said, it only implies the audio is him, not that he sent it to a minor. It's completely reasonable to assume he sent it to an adult who then leaked it to make him look bad.
If the conclusion relies on the individual's subjective definition of a word, we can't make any assumptions and as such any implication is meaningless@@notSignum
@@anattemptwasmade I wasn't aware there were other interpretations of the term before today. I just assumed everyone had the same understanding of what revenge porn is. Also I didn't make any conclusions, I just said I raised my eyebrow at his use of the term.
As someone who is bipolar, one of my biggest fears is being recorded during a manic episode, because you cant really control yourself.. and the fact dream recorded him to use the video against him just makes it even worse..
Dream is a scumbag but he wasn't the one who recorded the video. It was a friend and gumball requested it be recorded. Still dream is a groomer imo and is disgusting but so is gumball
I have bipolar and BPD and I’m an artist and writer but I keep my life simple, stable, and out of the spotlight. I stay on my meds, stay sober, and I don’t worry 👍🏻 I was in a band for 10 years and realized the spotlight isn’t worth the risk to my mental health or reputation these days. Just create for yourself and take care of your mental health. Social media and the spotlight is terrible for mental health, especially for those who have mental illnesses. Good luck to you and your journey 🫡🫡
@@bhalterman30"dream is a groomer imo" what do you mean? /gen I haven't been keeping up with dreams bs,(because ew lol) but the way this was worded concerns me. The word "groomer" is another word for a pedophile, or someone 18+ who exploits people younger that 18 for sexual favors. Someone can't be a groomer "in your opinion." That sounds... wrong. [Edited for clarification. Also I'm aware of him posting thirst traps to a public account and a mostly-child audience, but while it's sus af, it *technically* isn't illegal. I wish it was though.]
I don't know why, but heading Charlie says "Dream vs gumball" in a mono-twice voice made me laugh hysterically, it's like the shitting unicorns taken to court debacle.
Dude the allegation dream was moaning over Snapchat made me laugh so hard. NO ONE should ever be sending moaning videos to ANYONE regardless of age on snap chat!
@@KwikBRnooOoo 😂 why would he PUBLICLY admit he ever did that!!!! Also that has to be the worst way to try to s.4.d8ce a woman. I'm just saying no matter how much I like a man or no matter how handsome he is, moaning videos are only going to make me laugh 😂 Reminds me of that one TH-camr who very seriously sent videos of himself twerking to underage fans in order to trick them into sending him videos of them twerking back 😂 that guy was a major w
If someone told me Gumball and Dream would have fight, Gumball was drunk and beat Dreams ass and told me in one of the past three years.... I'd probably believe them because the 2020's have been wilde shit..... Like Olivia fucking Wilde
Dream is just so afraid to get cancelled in his cancel culture community that he probably feels as if he is forced to be overly defensive about everything he does
@@cheeseyrice Seriously! I used to be a huge fan of his stuff during the pandemic and I would defend him over stuff like the manhunts, but this is insane. I would totally believe that most/all of the allegations are real, but I would also completely believe that a lot of this is a widespread attempt to finally destroy Dream for other reasons. Some of it is definitely true, but I appreciate the attempt in the video here to be neutral.
Idk if this'll help or anything, but my two cents is that, while I wait for any concrete, irrefutable evidence to come out about the situation, I'm still distancing from most things related to the whole issue. Just kinda makes it easier. (Plus kinda suspicious to me that instead of trying to pick at both the claimed victim and accused pedo, it's mostly just blunt insults and easily faked evidence against the accused and he's the only one left to actually prove anything) I get proof, but so far all we have is speculation and witness vs. witness. At least from the videos I've seen so far.
@@astraamarante6233 Totally agree. I'm probably not involving myself at all even if real evidence shows up. Regardless of who is right, I see the whole situation as a lose-lose
Honestly, the only reason I believe that he's a pedophile is the fact he admitted, in his Tweet where he's talking about doing a video to refute all the claims, that the thing about him sending moaning videos to minors being released to the public was "revenge porn". Doesn't say they're fake, or that they weren't sent to minors, no he defends himself by saying it was wrong of people to expose that because it was "revenge porn".
@@jefferyshitstain3979 Although, he could have said nothing until that video came out. Or, said "I'm making a video about this, please wait." Instead, he loaded the gun for a crowd of people who very, very, *very*, clearly will read between the lines finding a way to frame him as a pedophile. All he needs to do is keep his mouth shut and *organise a proper response.* But, it's dream though, we all know he won't. Do I think these current allegations are true? It's a bit iffy, but Dream is an internet degenerate with a following. An internet Degenerate who has a proven history of going to great lengths in an effort to lie. I wouldn't doubt it if someone said he used that power imbalance in this manner, not necessarily targeting kids purposefully. But certainly not caring about the fact that they're underage either.
@@jefferyshitstain3979 He could've easily specified or said nothing at all. Instead, he called the evidence of him sending audio of him moaning sexually to minors "revenge porn." Anyone with a brain will read that as him admitting that the evidence is real.
I'm gonna be honest, I don't know much about this whole situation, but that moaning sounded NOTHING like him lmao. Idk what's going on with Dream or if he's a creep and a pedophile, but I am like 95% sure that was not him in that video.
@@nagashtheundyingking4404this is why smaller kids below the age of 8-10 shouldn’t have TH-cam but parents these days are failures and rely on TH-cam to raise their kids
@@ZolAkechi Charlie went on and on about Dream posting thirst traps. Charlie got fooled by fake accounts on Twitter. Dream never posted any thirst trap.
It's just some dumb argument that both idiots decided to bring online and are letting the comments fight their battle for them. So yeah, it really isn't important. None of this is, really. It's all stupid and over the top
Gumball Watterson beating the shyit outta dream is something I never thought I'd see in this timeline.
Don't fuck with the Wattersons! 😾
It’s not a cartoon character that’s a real human being
@@thereal4815And that’s an obvious joke you missed
@@horkah6966 nope. almost everyone is referring to Nicholas as “gumball” because they watched a cool show and don’t care it’s a real person
@@thereal4815who ruined your sense of humor
Dream getting clocked by Gumball is what I needed this thanksgiving
yeah, same
I’m better than Charlie 💀🤣
Dream should have never taken off the mask
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@@SussyGabrielOFFICAL🤓🤓🤓🤓
Charlie’s cat is so pretty and fluffy. Can’t believe she was once a tiny kitten that Charlie held in one hand so stream could see.
omg u js reminded me of that clip she's sooo cute
Fluffy tails and streaming gear rarely work well together lol.
she's a big girl now!!
What really pisses me off is that the original victim of Dream's grooming to come forward, with actual evidence linking directly to Dream, months & months ago, has been forgotten underneath the pile of "drama" & controversy
@@Ebh55. I don't remember her name but she was 17 & had screenshots & videos of her conversations with Dream on his Snapchat & his personal Snapchat, going back over a year. In the videos/screen recordings she went through the steps from the convos she was showing all the way to his Snapchat etc, so there was no doubt it was him. In the convos he was asking her (a minor) for lewd/nude pictures, commenting sexually on regular pictures she was posting publicly, talking to her sexually & asking her to reply in the same way, etc. She also had screen recording of DM's with him on his Instagram, where he was the same way.
He did respond to her on Twitter, stating he had believed she was 18 the whole time & therefore he did nothing wrong.
who?
@@Ebh55. oh yeah, blew my mind. I used to love Dream.
who is it??
People disregarded her story because she was a groomer herself but that doesnt change anything? Even if it was confirmed that amanda was a groomer, that doesnt mean she cant also be a victim of grooming? 😭 ive never seen any evidence disproving her claims too its just dream stans trying to defend him but never actually proving anything..
"Dream has beef with the voice actor for Gumball" is not a sentence I thought I would ever utter but here we are.
it sounds like a description of a weird dream
Sounds like the plot for gumball episode tbh
lmao yes! at first i was like, gumball who? like gumball GUMBALL? lol
The amazing world of gumball? gumball?
@@WhoTfIzKTManeeaye
"Hire a Harvard professor to calculate why despite texting every twitch streamer in Austin nobody wanted to f*k you" - Gumball really pulverised Dream . 😂
Shots fired! Get down!
Austin sounds like a great place to catch sexually transmitted diseases
Gumball was always goated
Nick's personality was shitty but his responses were witty😛
I like how y’all say this and completely dismissed of how much of a piece of shit that guy is, just because he is against Dream and you guys didnt like Dream because your fav content creators says so 😂 in any other situation you would’ve ranted so much more about him but nope, not this time, he gets the pass, just like that your virtue signaling got flipped 180 degree 😂😂😂😂😂 also, you’re a pedophile and a groomer and I have screenshot of it, so just trust me okay regardless if a plain and simple screenshot is as easily editable as a youtube comment, but trust me okay, but it’ll probably not work anyway since people doesnt hate you enough, and in order for a pedophile to be taken accountability he needs to be a “narcissist” first, otherwise all pedo gets a pass by Twitter, 16 years old post puberty Minecraft childrens and the 13 to 15 years old Charlie viewers that he himself is just as narcissistic bipolar and a hypocrite as any of those he talked shit about 🤷🏻♂️
I feel bad for dreams sister.
I hope she doesn’t get affected by all this crap.
She’s gonna have to find a fridge cause of all the nuclear fallout that’s coming her way brought on her brother’s BS.
shes gonna become a ghoul just like that side quest kid in fallout 4
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Nice reference with the fridge. Haha
knowing how Dream has targeted girls his sister's age, i worry about her
@@gob6793 He probably feeds her stepbro videos
Who else is waiting for Charlie's response to Dream's video...
was just checking for that
@@gocats4096same
Still Waiting, I'll be very disgusted if he doesn't respond further.
🙋
I honestly reckon he'll try to not address it for as long as possible
I'd like to imagine Charlie had a whole wall full of tweets connected to each other via strings, like a mad conspiracy theorist.
Hmmm 🤔
pepe silvia style
DIDNT ASK:MY CONТЕNT = WAY BETTER!!!!!!!😂💀⚡️⚡️
Drama Theory
If his videos had more depth I'd think that too but this is very surfaces level, he didn't even show half of what pyro did in terms of video and tweets, dream admitted to sending that moaning audio as well which he must have missed in his mess of strings and tweet print outs....smh
Went from Dream to a Nightmare real fast.
I’m better than Charlie 💀🤣
this made me laugh way too hard
Haha
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Lmao bruh
so glad you made this video.
i've had friends ask me what i think about the Dream drama and i've told them "I have no idea" then they get mad at me for 'not picking a side, when someone's clearly in the wrong'
i'm not saying that.
i'm saying that i literally have no clue what's going on over there and there's too many people saying too many things for me to even try to untangle the mess.
It's crazy.
Your friends needa understand not everybody's deep into drama all the time ☠️☠️
If they are that hung up on some petty drama that was solved not even too long ago and are mad at you for not understanding should they even be friends with you? Just my opinion is all.
A follow up update video would be great imo
Still waiting for it
He only makes video sbout negative content it probably doesnt interest him
I miss when the most serious Dream drama was just allegations about faking his manhunts
@@queenAmenahbestvldeosonytno one asked
i miss when the worst he did was not face revealing to george. now we got all this shit
Same, same Ralsei…
finally someone commenting on what i actually care about. MANHUNTS ARE FAKE. ITS TRUE. ITS ALL STAGED. thank you
@@queenAmenahbestvldeosonyt Real cute, did someone pay you to say that or are you normally this troll baitish?
Imagine being against a 20 year old who's blackout drunk and saying slurs and nonsense and still finding a way to lose. Classic Dream.
how did he "lose"? not fighting back and remaining composed?
@@MrDJ2007sub bait
he was 19 in the video, dream kept it as blackmail for months and months
@@hoshi6539no by getting someone under the drinking age drunk and then filming a video with the intentions of using it against Nick one day instead of helping him out
@@nexiistdream got him drunk?!?
The fact that Nic was literally drunk and having a manic episode and Dream tried to blackmail him with it
Wasn't he underage in the US as well?
@@eadlindobbsyep.
@@eadlindobbshe was 20 in the recorded video, age if drinking is 21
@@numbdreams9407i’m pretty sure he’s 20 now but when the video took place he was 19
i mean i’m pretty sure 19 is legal in some states and is definitely legal on private property
Honestly, Dream vs Gumball sounds like an actual episode
We're witnessing Gumball Watterson roast the crap out of Dream. This timeline just gets weirder and weirder.
Dream is the type of person that believes that "the grieving" is real
@@meowmeow2334 S4E38
I’ll be honest I find it odd that now people are just allowed to use slurs but sounds about right for twitter
@@trashman11 The whole slur thing has always been dumb. They're just insults, no different than "stupid" or "idiot", just because some 16 year olds cry on twitter, people are afraid they'll ruin their careers so that's why everyone's scared of them. Not like there is a law against them that sentences you to 10 years for each slur. It's just people looking for things to worry about, fight others for since they have no problems in their lives.
@@trashman11he can reclaim those slurs
Charlie is the only person that can talk about drama and be trending for gaming
😂 really?
Yep, trending #4, every dream stan is going to see this lmao
@@O-bearer-mine update: its now Number 1 trending
@@notabestfriend432number #2 now 😔
LMAO
Dream can literally make up a shampoo-bottle-in-the-shower level argument and then still fumble the bag
What’s shampoo bottle in the shower level?
@@jackderawayarguing with the bottles of shampoo in your shower and losing the debate to them
@@neyte7313I though it was explaining that you had a shampoo bottle shoved up your ass in the shower by saying you fell on it
He actually did that but didn’t fumble the bag like you said, surprising considering the amount of blind hatred the internet seems to have for him
This aged like some fine shit
The people making fake allegations are essentially aiding him by obscuring whatever it is he's guilty of. I trust you to update us on the facts that come to light
OH LOL THEY'VE COME TO LIGHT ALRIGHT
you can't trust him, i'd seen plenty of evidence making dream guilty but he won't show or talk about it
Charlie: A man moaning would be the worst jump scare ever
Charlie: Proceeds to do it immediately after 0-0
Hes right
He did give you a warning lmao
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@@BigStrongACG2023 Hot garbage n I didn't even have to check your profile
@@BigStrongACG2023 Bot
When your fanbase is entirely composed of quirky 13 year olds, you can't really expect things to be logical and factual. You can only run away as fast as possible.
The only exception is Markiplier. That dude can make thirst-traps, make a calendar with nude photos, MAKE AN ONLY FANS with the same fan base ages as Dream and still have everyone’s side with him. Halo effect
Hope everyone doing good and staying safe. If you need to talk to someone or need help, there are people who care. Sending support and hearts. ❤❤❤
@@jahn77I think markiplier fanbase has grown up or aged up with the years passing also he is actually hot so I dont mind seeing a thirst trap, have not seen dream thirst trap but I feel like that would be a literal JUMPSCARE
@@jahn77dream literally told his fans they could draw nsfw of him and his straight friends having sex
maybe 'cause the majority of markiplier fans have grown up and are now either teens or early adults. his entire fanbase isn't composed of 13 year olds, and he's also not up here chatting them up either.@@jahn77
the charlie out of context videos are gonna have a FIELD DAY with this episode 💀
It seems like everyone that Charlie plays among us with eventually comes out later in a bad light
holy shit fr. been thinking abt that too with poki drama. i am sure rae,syk, toast won't be as dumb as them tho
I hope nothing with Corpse though (unless i missed something)
Mystery solved then. Charlie is cursed, and no one should play Among Us with him.
Now spread those allegations!
@@marzhunyou did. (turns out he was an actual corpse) which isnt something cancelable but he did lie
@@latiosfreak2000?
Hearing Charles trying to moan makes me feel sorry for the cat
Timestamp? Asking for a friend's uncle's brother'-in-law cat's friend.
6:19 @@gabarite_0.5
@@gabarite_0.5 6:15
@@gabarite_0.5 6:12
@@gabarite_0.55:10
the fact this all spiraled from dream taking off his mask is crazy 💀
He should've just kept it on
It would've come out eventually either way
@@Marukanitel you are the worst
THAT’S WHAT THE MASK IS
@@bobbobson8087"I think you're a f*****"- Gumball
I’m not a fan of dream but holy FUCK it’s incredible to see, regardless of how many creators are falsely accused, that this many people will immediately disregard truth or his side of the story. Have we not learned enough from the dozens of situations just like this? Slazo? Pyrocynical?
I KNOW RIGHT?! like people really love to hop on the hate trains of people theyre jealous or spiteful of and dont even listen to their side even if they can prove it😭props to his legal team for working all of these months. kinda goes to show that no matter how hard you try you can still get fucked over by enough random people hating you for something you didnt do. humans are spooky
He labeled the audios he made as revenge porn.
@@ahlogic5960 in a sense, it was. It was explicit material of another person used in a spiteful or vengeful manner, assumedly without that persons consent. That does not equate to him taking ownership of the audio.
"Here's the evidence for that"
Oh man, never in my life have I lowered the volume so fast... Like, my fuckin' lizard brain kicked in, pushing my conscious state down for a moment. My thumbs were Flash Stepping lol.
Felt that
Dream is the only man I can think of who has a perfectly set up argument and enough evidence and is still able to lose every argument.
FR the truest statement.
Yea since Twitter has a giant hate boner for the Dude cus hes cringe and corny
You’re also the only man that learns about the Graham-Lewis Potentialise Rule. Congratulations for your discovery doctor
Yeah, I guess it's because are just naturally against him. Most people probably wouldn't even bother seeing the evidence and reading the argument, they'll just be against him.
That's cuz it's so trendy to hate on dream that even if courts rule him as entirely innocent, the internet would still want its witch hunt and would not care.
A minecraft youtuber being a pedophile? Who would have ever guessed that??!!
LMFAO right
SO FAR HERMITCRAFT HAS BEEN SAFE
ILL STAND BY SAFE SPACE THANK YOU
A good ol’ YT classic
i dont get it
lizzy is the only minecraft yt i trust anymore
Dream's presence on the Internet has to be the weirdest thing I have ever seen in years. Dude was the shit for about a few weeks, and then he just attracted the most brutal hate for the rest of his career. There is absolutely no way he can win
Edit: Fucking jinxed it
TL;DR: Quit dogpiling on this dude
To be fair, it was more like a few months. And he and the people around him probably got enough money and attention from that stuff to make it worth while.
Thing is, when you're a super popular minecraft TH-cam with a whole bunch of kids who aggressively defend you, you're just gonna get hate. What he could really do, is handle it with maturity. And that is precisely what he failed at. At first I used to think the guy was a teenager himself with the sh1t he said. But it's actually wild when I learned the guy is in his 20s. He's my age but acts like my younger brother lmao
He got all the hate because he was the shit. People are envious and do anything to bring others down
Fame changes people
Tbf, he fed so much into it. Have you seen the tweet where some rando teenager with 12 followers called Dream's merch ugly and Dream retweeted it calling the teenager ugly and sending his entire fanbase after them. He's wild, absolute 0 self control or acknowledgement about what his insane fanbase does to the people he attacks.
@@icedcat4021 thats BS
id love some proof
Holy shit people should be ashamed of themselves. where is the proof. no where. ' oh look a screen shot" so? that could be easily faked. it is amazing how people just grab onto things without anything
Dream is always tangled up in SOME goofy stuff
I’m better than Charlie 💀🤣
he is tho
@@rrr11779ur literally on the same video hes on commenting bro dont u 😭😭😭😭😭
@@SussyGabrielOFFICALBot 💀
@@rrr11779 not everyone celebrates that lmao
Charlie not believing that some men randomly send moaning clips to people is quite wholesome. He has clearly never seen the sh*t people send on Snapchat and I respect that.
It’s not that he don’t believe it, it’s that he’s doesn’t believe it came from dream, anybody can make a video of themselves moaning.
@@DMAGAEscober and then dream confirms that *was* him. dream is absolutely insane
@@DMAGAEscoberI mean not anybody 😅
I don't believe him to be honest. He has a closet full of dildos and sex toys like how tf do you not know people do weirder shit than that lmfao.
@@queenAmenahbestvldeosonyt Racism is not cool dude
Haters have gone real silent after the dream video huh
WE NEED A PT.2 AFTER HIS RESPONSE!
Idk why but everytime Dream is involved in any drama it just spirals out of control so fast it's amazing
That’s just drama
It’s probably because everyone on all ends of the spectrum hate him so it spins out of control since basically no one is on his side and would love to spread news of him doing something bad regardless of whether it’s true or not lol
Edit: like I don’t like him very much but I’ve learned not to believe whatever Twitter says about him because what lol
@@kx7500honestly it seems more untamed with Dream drama-- probably because of the young feral audience and Dream not shutting up and just making things worse
@@taitia8619reminds me of how he dealt with the speedrunning situation somewhat, even though the stakes for that were much lower
It’s amazing..
world of gumball
This situation is so bizarre. Once you read the allegations and the alleged proof provided against Dream, you come to realize that none of it is actually enough to even begin to make him seem guilty. However, his inability to just shut the fuck up has completely destroyed people's willingness to side with him, even if he is right in the end
The "allegations" are ridiculous. I only just found out about this man today, but let him live his life. If the young woman agrees to come over his house, then let them be. There's nothing wrong with 24 and 17 in most states, just like there's nothing wrong with 34 and 17, and we cant help it if younger women offer us more and aren't as compromised as their older counterparts. It's 2023. We're not trying to buy a Sega Saturn, ya feel me.
@@Zenigundamjust say your a pedo bud
@@Zenigundambro just openly admitted to being a pedo
@@Zenigundam my guy WHAT 👁️👄👁️
@@Zenigundam well if that ain't bait i don't know what the fuck is lmao. regardless, a minor is a minor, and it IS wrong in most states, so kindly shuffle your dumbass out the door my guy.
Ngl I feel bad for dream
Can't wait for the apology video
The disbelief and disgust that Charlie had that someone would even THINK to send someone moaning videos had me dying 😂😂😂
Batman
What the fuck is this comment section
does not eat
@@queenAmenahbestvldeosonyt learn how to draw.
@@queenAmenahbestvldeosonytthis is exactly how not to advertise your content
Everything I've seen from Dream is like a giant lesson in knowing when to shut up. People throw these allegations at Dream to troll or whatever, Dream bends over backwards and addresses absolutely everything thus giving the accusers exactly what they want, and the allegations continue. He needs to get off the internet for like a few months at least if he wants to avoid insanity or jail time
Or maybe he should go to jail
@@shinstantramen5169He should
@@shinstantramen5169give your mother her phone back.
Jail for what?
Dream's downfall is literally because he spends most of his day responding to trolls on Twitter. He is obsessed with Twitter to an unhealthy degree and needs someone to keep him off the app for a whole month.
What "Thirst Traps" has he posted????
There was a fake account on twitter reposting his snapchat pictures with thirst trappy messages attached to them.
Not necessarily related to Charlie's take, but I think if we're going to go after Dream for posting normal pictures of his face or even wanting to look good in his photos as problematic or it being weird because of his audience's age, you're going to have to dismantle the entire music and movie industry who targets pre-teens with attractive boys who are older than them. People like the Dolan Twins existed for years, whose target audience was solely teenage girls who thought they were attractive. They would of course play to this angle and provide some level of fan service for these underage girls, but they were never criticized or considered 'predatory,' yet Dream is because of the stigma around the Minecraft community and the deep hatred Twitter has for this dude, and he isn't even trying to thirst trap or look attractive for an underage female audience.
Dream is a guy who grew up with a weight issue and immediately upon revealing his face to the public got called hideous, I'm sure he wants to also improve his image by posting pictures other than what is shown in his face reveal. Is it really unreasonable for him to post pictures in which he actually looks good? Does that make him a creep? I don't think so personally.
Dream never fails to look like a predator.
No he looks like lord farquad
Minecraft youtuber moment
@@kq7770that's an insult to Lord farquad
pfp matches
@@tvman2181as soon as they get more than like 300k subs.
6:19 For a brief moment, we witness Charlie summoning the spirit of a man with a normal vocal tone
Music to my ears.
I love these videos, it’s like a nice little spark notes for drama
Well this aged well
Sometimes, silence is the solution in any drama this petty. Dream is literally destroying himself for having the inability to shut up.
Seriously tho. Sometimes its best to just turn replys off dip off social media for like a month and just go on series of trips or vacation or sum. Seriously a month in the real world is like a year on the internet lol. Ppl will completely forget. This is how politicians and congressman touch children and shit and suddenly everyones talking ab something else within like 2 weeks lmao. That or if the scandals big enough ppl start dissapearing.
Not sure about that, there can be outliers. Take Boyinaband for example, he's been inactive for years and got many allegations against him, and no matter what he is going to do, his reputation is destroyed.
@@cbaileychamp I mean, in a way he kinda did that, but then decided to start up again for whatever reason and it's just shitting on him so hard
Can’t stay silent when the accusations are this serious though.
Edit: although I’d admit there is a fine balance to be had, somewhere between staying silent and spamming twitter with long ass essays.
@@gergoretvari6373there are times to be silent and times to address things, I think. If boyinaband was able to completely debunk everything, for example what Kwite did when he had allegations made against him, that would’ve been a time to speak up and defend himself. In boyinabands case, there are a few things that do point to him maybe having done some of what was alleged against him, and since he’s been silent and hasn’t defended himself at all, it adds fuel to the fire and makes him a lot more ‘guilty seeming’.
Now dream is different, dream is just a loudmouth dumbass and no matter what he did it would’ve been a failure.
Charlie: Dream Situation is Crazy
Pyro:Dream Situation is insane
Pyro finally managed to beat Charlie to a topic
Finally Pyro gets a W of being first to report this critically important drama to our world, even mogul mail is late
I’m 100% better than Charlie
Charlie first called out sssniperwolf horrible and now he is after Dream. Charlie is Incel, Period.
Who tf is pyro 💀
Charlie saying that people often tke the allegations at face value and just run along with them because they hate dream is so incredibly spot on and its backed up by all the comments in this video lol
Too bad Charlie and you haven't gone into depth about the topic at all
Watching this video, its very apparent Charlie just saw some tweets, saw a video, and wanted to make a quick video for easy views. He even says he's confused multiple times in the video. Bro has no idea about this topic because he can't be bothered to put some actual effort into researching it
@@shaunduzstuffs i've been following the allegations for years, like he says, the evidence baking them up is incredibly shaky at best
@@shaunduzstuffs to be fair with all the drama that happens around dream every day it feels like, researching it would be a full time job for him
@reyalfa18 While there's no concrete evidence, there's definitely some evidence that's much more than just incredibly shaky that's surfaced recently
But of course, Charlie didn't go over any of that because he simply can't be bothered to put effort into making a video like this
@@shaunduzstuffsor maybe because he knows he can’t accuse someone of something no matter how much evidence he finds. He’s not a detective just a guy. This isn’t a topic he can dive into and without creating his own stir of controversy. He’s smart and doesn’t want unnecessary drama plus he knows he doesn’t have the ability to deem him guilty or not. No one does unless they are actually involved and have real evidence to go on.
Honestly I’m kind of shocked there hasn’t been a part two to this video. Don’t get me wrong I don’t expect an apology video or for him to take back anything he said here, I’m not a fool, but Dream’s response video was a HUGE deal on the internet and that fact that Charlie never made a video on it after it came out is genuinely shocking to me. This is right up his alley in terms of content but he never touched it
Because then charlie would have to admit he was wrong lmao
He did however watch it on stream. Well, he watched 1/3 of it, made a shitty response saying "yeah but im still right" then called it quits
Can you imagine being that Uber driver and having the Gumball VA drunkenly argue with Dream in the back
The Uber driver was called slurs by nick too
@@tweenytwinkies how lovely of him…
@@tweenytwinkies He literally talked about this in his tweet, he was drunk and didn't mean to say those things, he knew what he did was wrong.. also he can reclaim the said slurs he said 😭
also apparently he was going thru a manic (?) episode ?
DIDNT ASK:MY CONТЕNT = WAY BETTER!!!!!!!😂💀⚡️⚡️
@@ColeCassidyishotbruh whooo cares that he was drunk, it was literally harassing a stranger. also, reclaiming a slur doesn’t mean you can just use it as a slur. that’s not the same thing. reclaiming insinuates that there is power in what you’re doing and taking it back from your oppressor. calling someone the f word and r word as an insult isn’t reclaiming anything, you’re just calling someone a slur
I wonder if dream is gonna hire a maths professor to prove his innocence
sounds on brand
LMAOOOO
it would be on brand, because the person he hired to prove his innocence made shit up since later dream admitted he did cheat anyway
@@alpaca6462lmao true I never thought about that
lmfao I forgot aobut that shit what a joke
Looking back at this vid after watching the response shows how wrong Charlie and his audience is. Including me, as someone who was sorta a dream hater For him being cringey and incredibly biased towards Charlie. I’ve gotta say Charlie is definitely wrong on this one and I hope he addresses it.
He did on stream never watched, but I've seen a clip of it. Also hopefully you didn't believe that dream was a pedo 100% bc this vid litterly says to me these allegations aren't 100%. He was wrong about the pics tho. Well I believe I can't remember the reaction mind you what I'm talking about is about the thirst trap pics. In my opinion dream should've been stoped texting that lady but I get it he was just trying to be nice which In turn made a weirdo that accused him of some fucked shit.
@@mrduck375 He watched a extremely tiny portion of the video about one of the more miniscule factors, made a comment on it when he has no place to since he didn't finish the video, and then has failed to address it since. If he isn't making a new video on the situation then frankly I'm disgusted.
completely agree. been watching. charlie for much over a decade so needless to say its kind of disappointing unless he addresses it
Please drop an apology video, Charles.
If Dream would just keep his mouth shut about petty drama, he would not get nearly the amount of hate he does. Hating on Dream is a trend that would've died a long time ago if he would just ignore it and move on with his life. It's wild that his reputation is so bad that he can get randomly assaulted by someone he barely knows and he's still made out to be the bad guy in the situation.
DIDNT ASK:MY CONТЕNT = WAY BETTER!!!!!!!😂💀⚡️⚡️
@@UTTPCaptain shut up bot
if he's truly innocent here then i actually do feel bad for him, the amount of hate is insane
except that the shit is true lmao he has been close friends with a confirmed child predator since 2014 and edited yt videos for him free of cost
Honestly regardless on if he is or isn’t guilty of all the allegations, him getting into petty drama doesn’t help his image and his reputation is going down.
Some important context - Dream actually did confirm that those moaning audios were real. There’s no question on whether it’s a fake Snapchat account, his claim is that they were sent to someone of age.
The fact that "Sam Dream" is a listed contact in this person's phone does give some merit to the idea that they know Dream's ex. He claims it's revenge p. Anything that's connected to his ex needs to be taken with not a grain, but a mountain worth of salt.
Which they weren't. He's a pedo.
Thank you for the context but I hate you for making me realize I for sure just heard dream moaning
i rlly wish i could've lived in peace thinking it was a random person moaning 😢😢😢
@@void405 there is no "sam dream" in the video, it says "stan dream" please stop spreading misinfo
I love how the cat smacks the mic with with its tail in the beginning. The sassiness 😂
You explain drama that i had never heard of and will keep me up if i don't watch your videos
6:25 “you feeling it now babe” 😭😭💀
Lmao
I wish moist, his pets, and his girlfriend have a nice thanksgiving.
very cute calico cat, aswell with Charlie
Me too
get this guy a true
doubt it
I agree Motörhead fan the 50th
the bass it made when the cat hit the mic with its tail was so cool
imagine the amazing world of gumball producers just casually drop the new season with that banger episode of him beating the shit out of a smiling image that can speak
Bruh, don’t know why, but heading Charlie say “Dream vs gumball” in a mono-tone voice made me laugh hysterically💀💀 it’s like the shitting unicorns taken to court debacle
... Shitting unicorns going to court? Calling the context squad
@@TheResidence.mp4a unicorn hit his nutsack
Try to figure out now
NPC comment.
@@Jamesentmtoooooo you’re so edgy and cool
@@JamesentmtNPC reply
I love how Charlie makes a video basically saying "I have no idea what is going on, and I have nothing to add." And he gets number 2 on trending.
It's a bit more than that, it's him saying there isn't much evidence proving anything and because of that he can't come to an actual conclusion.
The take of "i have no idea what's going on, and nothing to add, but nor does anyone else so if they claim they do they're lying"
Spicy streamer gossip gets the yokels riled up and he knows it.
Dream had an easier time doing the get into a controversy speedrun than any of his Minecraft runs
He's definitely got the world record for controversy%
0:02 cat and dog are good friends
You'd think a manipulative narcissist would be good at being that, but Dream has the worst case of verbal diarrhea I've ever seen on Twitter right now.
Many manipulative narcs are actually fairly incompetent outside of a small subset of cultivated victims.
If you ever feel sad remember there are people online who actively harras some random ass adult all because he maybe faked his speedrun and has a LGBT fanbase that ships him with his friend
Some random ass egotistical voice actor who only has one role under his belt called him slurs and assaulted him and they’re going after dream 😂
@@people2chronically-onlinebegone spamton
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@@people2chronically-onlinenonce
Charlie is so brave to actually post the moaning audio 😂 not even oompaville was willing to take that risk
And with no warning, just straight up a jumpscare for all of us.
Thanks for the warning I’m lowering my volume lol
Oh shit wait what. When I’m using a speaker right now.
I wish I had a volume warning for Charlie's moan 😂😅
right like my heart skipped a beat when the person pressed play
The lil corner in the middle of screen… I can’t unsee now
my friend turned 18 the other day and immediately was like
“omg im immune to dream now !! “ 😭 😭
The first time I ever heard of Dream was because of drama. The second time after not hearing him for months was because of drama. The third time again is because of drama. He's like a controversy magnet.
Charlie first called out sssniperwolf horrible and now he is after Dream. Charlie is Incel, Period.
@@MrUssy101are you trolling or literally just this slow?
I see you’re just a troll now 100+ comments and one said “fist incel Charlie was against my favorite person pokimane now SSSniperwolf”
I’m 100% better than Charlie
Don't read my name
My favourite controversy was him being ugly 🤣 couldn’t have happened to a nicer person 😊
Okay but Charlie's cat is a top tier floof. 15/10 cat.
Dogs are better
@@elytrous4898thank god we were just talking abt cats and not dogs
@@elytrous4898drop your lifespan to 0
👎
The gossip toxic train 😂😂😂😂
People are saying that him calling it "Revenge porn" rather than just saying "It wasn't me" is damning evidence of his guilt, but it could also be bad wording, which I'm lead to believe Dream does a lot. Either way, his reactions to all of this isn't helping his case.
I think he was trying his hardest to sound professional and serious about it because it's a very serious problem. Issue is he is using language that he doesn't fully understand in the process. The tweet was basically him saying It's not to be taken lightly that a video without proof is being used to essentially slander him. Also people argue that he should have said it wasn't him, but literally anything he says will be interpreted as admission of guilt right now. Hell even if he didn't say anything, people would have still thought the same.
Thing is technically speaking even if the person in it isn't dream. but the person is claiming it to be him, would fall under revenge porn I believe. (Though only in some states)
What the hell even is revenge porn and why would someone use it as a "defence"
@@okenough2124 Revenge porn is when someone uses pornographic media from picture to recordings etc to essentially harm the image of someone. (This isn’t an exact definition but is just how I’d explain it) Its most commonly done by ex lovers, or done too former pornstars. Rather than a defense its an accusation, saying they are doing something wrong/illegal.
Arguably, you can classify deepfake or mimicry of someone in pornographic content with the purpose to harm their image as 'revenge-porn', how that'd work legally, would be very questionable, but, yeah. I don't believe him calling it 'Revenge Porn' necessarily solidifies his guilt, but it is a very odd choice of a thing to say in one's defense. It's suspicious, but not confirming of anything.
was not ready for 5:10...was wearing headphones too
The thing that made me raise an eyebrow was the fact the dream called this "revenge porn". It makes it sound a lot like the audio is real at least.
Not necessarily. If someone took random pictures of someone, put it through one of those deep fakes or ai generated programs to make a sex vid or naked pictures, and then post to the internet, I'd say that is a type of revenge porn. So I don't think it's that unreasonable for him to refer to it as revenge porn. Whether he did it or not, is still up in the air.
@@Irishxlily Not to mention if the audio was real, it could have been sent to a consenting adult party instead, which makes the moniker of ‘revenge porn’ make more sense. As always the waters get muddier
@@Irishxlily Does AI shit or an impersonation really count though? I always understood revenge porn as a shitty ex partner releasing private video/audio/images to hurt someone. His use of the term just rubbed me the wrong way here, not saying it's proof of anything.
Also, like I said, it only implies the audio is him, not that he sent it to a minor. It's completely reasonable to assume he sent it to an adult who then leaked it to make him look bad.
If the conclusion relies on the individual's subjective definition of a word, we can't make any assumptions and as such any implication is meaningless@@notSignum
@@anattemptwasmade I wasn't aware there were other interpretations of the term before today. I just assumed everyone had the same understanding of what revenge porn is. Also I didn't make any conclusions, I just said I raised my eyebrow at his use of the term.
As someone who is bipolar, one of my biggest fears is being recorded during a manic episode, because you cant really control yourself.. and the fact dream recorded him to use the video against him just makes it even worse..
Yeah I feel kinda bad for him…
Dream is a scumbag but he wasn't the one who recorded the video. It was a friend and gumball requested it be recorded.
Still dream is a groomer imo and is disgusting but so is gumball
I have bipolar and BPD and I’m an artist and writer but I keep my life simple, stable, and out of the spotlight. I stay on my meds, stay sober, and I don’t worry 👍🏻 I was in a band for 10 years and realized the spotlight isn’t worth the risk to my mental health or reputation these days. Just create for yourself and take care of your mental health. Social media and the spotlight is terrible for mental health, especially for those who have mental illnesses.
Good luck to you and your journey 🫡🫡
@@bhalterman30I don’t get the groomer shit? What did he actually do?
@@bhalterman30"dream is a groomer imo" what do you mean? /gen I haven't been keeping up with dreams bs,(because ew lol) but the way this was worded concerns me. The word "groomer" is another word for a pedophile, or someone 18+ who exploits people younger that 18 for sexual favors. Someone can't be a groomer "in your opinion." That sounds... wrong.
[Edited for clarification. Also I'm aware of him posting thirst traps to a public account and a mostly-child audience, but while it's sus af, it *technically* isn't illegal. I wish it was though.]
the moaning dont even sound like his 😂😂😂
well, this is some fine-aged wine right here!
If I can describe Dream’s entire legacy in 5 words, it would be:
Problematic from the very beginning.
@@MrDJ2007even if this were true i still wouldnt subscribe
Charlie first called out sssniperwolf horrible and now he is after Dream. Charlie is Incel, Period.
I’m 100% better than Charlie
Yep. He was an asshole from the start
Thats perfect
I love how Charlie can go from calm to YELLING AT YOU LIKE A CAVE MAN and then back to his usual calm self without missing a beat.
BRUH WHEN I WAS READING THIS COMMENT AND I GOT TO THE “YELLING LIKE A CAVEMAN” PART HE ACTUALLY YELLED 💀
Editing...
Ok
Batman
@@queenAmenahbestvldeosonyt"animations"
also good job mocking someones death dickhead
5:02 nothing could have prepared me for this lineup of words 😂
I love the cat cameo at the beginning, made the petty drama go down a bit easier
I don't know why, but heading Charlie says "Dream vs gumball" in a mono-twice voice made me laugh hysterically, it's like the shitting unicorns taken to court debacle.
Dude the allegation dream was moaning over Snapchat made me laugh so hard. NO ONE should ever be sending moaning videos to ANYONE regardless of age on snap chat!
@@WhitneyDahlin apparently that was one of the only things dream confirmed too??
Vatman
@@KwikBRnooOoo 😂 why would he PUBLICLY admit he ever did that!!!! Also that has to be the worst way to try to s.4.d8ce a woman. I'm just saying no matter how much I like a man or no matter how handsome he is, moaning videos are only going to make me laugh 😂 Reminds me of that one TH-camr who very seriously sent videos of himself twerking to underage fans in order to trick them into sending him videos of them twerking back 😂 that guy was a major w
@@BatCostumeGuy vetman
Dream is the type of guy to write an entire essay when someone criticizes him
He has done that multiple times.
@CeHee123 he alwas does that
Don't read my name.
Dream the type of dude to get some dumbass physicist to write a paper about his minecraft cheating
Dream is the type of guy to write an entire essay when somebody doesn't respond to his messages
charlie unknowingly saving dream from suicide isn’t something i thought I’d hear or see.
Wait what?
What????
6:20 got me riled up for sure. It's winter, but I feel heated.
It's still crazy to me how Gumball and Dream are having beef like this in the year 2023. We really do live in the future, ladies and gentleman.
I’m 100% better than Charlie
If someone told me Gumball and Dream would have fight, Gumball was drunk and beat Dreams ass and told me in one of the past three years.... I'd probably believe them because the 2020's have been wilde shit..... Like Olivia fucking Wilde
We are in one of the timelines that exist. Yes.
Charlie first called out sssniperwolf horrible and now he is after Dream. Charlie is Incel, Period.
Don't read my name
Can we take a moment to appreciate Charlie’s full, luscious and perfectly symmetrical eyebrows?
a fine young man fr
They're not symmetrical, bro. His left eyebrow tapers more than his right eyebrow.
@@buntew9414they are pretty luscious though
D1 glazing
i be just like him
Dream is just so afraid to get cancelled in his cancel culture community that he probably feels as if he is forced to be overly defensive about everything he does
@@cheeseyrice Seriously! I used to be a huge fan of his stuff during the pandemic and I would defend him over stuff like the manhunts, but this is insane. I would totally believe that most/all of the allegations are real, but I would also completely believe that a lot of this is a widespread attempt to finally destroy Dream for other reasons. Some of it is definitely true, but I appreciate the attempt in the video here to be neutral.
Idk if this'll help or anything, but my two cents is that, while I wait for any concrete, irrefutable evidence to come out about the situation, I'm still distancing from most things related to the whole issue. Just kinda makes it easier. (Plus kinda suspicious to me that instead of trying to pick at both the claimed victim and accused pedo, it's mostly just blunt insults and easily faked evidence against the accused and he's the only one left to actually prove anything)
I get proof, but so far all we have is speculation and witness vs. witness. At least from the videos I've seen so far.
@@astraamarante6233good take, we need more people like you, as a victim of false pedophilic allegations myself i really sympathize with Dream here.
@@astraamarante6233 Totally agree. I'm probably not involving myself at all even if real evidence shows up. Regardless of who is right, I see the whole situation as a lose-lose
The part where he reads the things the snapchat read made me laugh
Honestly, the only reason I believe that he's a pedophile is the fact he admitted, in his Tweet where he's talking about doing a video to refute all the claims, that the thing about him sending moaning videos to minors being released to the public was "revenge porn". Doesn't say they're fake, or that they weren't sent to minors, no he defends himself by saying it was wrong of people to expose that because it was "revenge porn".
Or you know, he is implying he sent that to someone of age and they are using it against him.
@@jefferyshitstain3979 Although, he could have said nothing until that video came out.
Or, said "I'm making a video about this, please wait." Instead, he loaded the gun for a crowd of people who very, very, *very*, clearly will read between the lines finding a way to frame him as a pedophile. All he needs to do is keep his mouth shut and *organise a proper response.* But, it's dream though, we all know he won't.
Do I think these current allegations are true? It's a bit iffy, but Dream is an internet degenerate with a following. An internet Degenerate who has a proven history of going to great lengths in an effort to lie.
I wouldn't doubt it if someone said he used that power imbalance in this manner, not necessarily targeting kids purposefully. But certainly not caring about the fact that they're underage either.
@@jefferyshitstain3979 He could've easily specified or said nothing at all. Instead, he called the evidence of him sending audio of him moaning sexually to minors "revenge porn." Anyone with a brain will read that as him admitting that the evidence is real.
I'm gonna be honest, I don't know much about this whole situation, but that moaning sounded NOTHING like him lmao. Idk what's going on with Dream or if he's a creep and a pedophile, but I am like 95% sure that was not him in that video.
also the person posted a date stamp and this video was taken in 2019 when this person was a minor
I always forget dream exists, everything I know about him is against my will
I’m 100% better than Charlie
@@SussyGabrielOFFICALnuh uh
nobody can escape Dream drama it seems
Same lmao
deleting twitter made me forget he exists at all this is the first video i’m seeing abt it and im confused
Dream literally acts like a child, and the way he gets millions of children to support him after this is WILD.
kids don't understand how fucked up some of the stuff he does is they see a person they like getting hate ofc they are gonna back him anyways.
@@nagashtheundyingking4404this is why smaller kids below the age of 8-10 shouldn’t have TH-cam but parents these days are failures and rely on TH-cam to raise their kids
A lot of his fans actually aren’t in the “super young” majority. Y’all just want to have this narrative
@@ckhoran13literally half the niggas on twitter with dream pfps have 14 in their bio
@@ckhoran13 lol nobody that’s over 14 is watching a mine craft streamer unless they themselves are a groomer 😂
Its crazy to see Charlie spreading misinformation and giving a platform to a bunch of anonymous twitter trolls. Thought he was smarter than this.
same
Excuse me if I recall I don't think he chose a side.
He didn’t chose a side, are your ears closed? The only thing Charlie says that I agree with is the parasocial relationship crap.
@@ZolAkechi Charlie went on and on about Dream posting thirst traps. Charlie got fooled by fake accounts on Twitter. Dream never posted any thirst trap.
@@harryj4260that doesn't prove that he chose a side
Damn I wanted more Gumball Vs Dream Drama covered but I guess it's not bigger than Dream being a weirdo
It's just some dumb argument that both idiots decided to bring online and are letting the comments fight their battle for them. So yeah, it really isn't important. None of this is, really. It's all stupid and over the top
Truee
I mean I feel like there isn’t much there. Just dumbassery
Gumball made me laugh as a kid. Dream sexually harrash them.
I swear the new gumball episode will be called "the mask"
I wish Charlie and his cat a happy thanksgiving
Charlie first called out sssniperwolf horrible and now he is after Dream. Charlie is Incel, Period.
I’m 100% better than Charlie
@@SussyGabrielOFFICAL hdf
What about his dog huh?
@@fir3lord814cooked
8:59 yes I believe there is a lot of proof about the existence of sand
I never thought i would hear Charlie mimicking the ambatukam audio but here we are