Traumatic memory of Dutch war veteran in Indonesia

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    In Tabee Toean - meaning 'Goodbye Sir' in Indonesian - five veterans of the Indonesian War of Independence (1945-1949) share their recollections, telling us how they as young soldiers, unprepared for guerrilla warfare, found themselves in a devil's circle of excessive violence and cruelty.

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  • @muhammaderfan8284
    @muhammaderfan8284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Mantan tentara ini seorg manusia, disatu sisi kemanusiaannya terusik oleh apa yg dia dan teman2nya lakukan dan merasa itu sebagai sebuah kesalahan akan tetapi dia adalah seorg tentara yg menerima upah dari negara dan melaksanakan perintah atasan. Tdk ada yg bisa dia perbuat terlebih dia jg hanya seorg tentara "umpan pelor" yg hrs ada d garis dpn sesuai perintah atasan dan bukan seorg jenderal penentu keputusan

  • @adrafit
    @adrafit 12 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    my grandfather is a member of TNI at the time in WONOSOBO in the year of 1948 he almost killed by the dutch army when he walked to patrol with his company in SEPURAN area.

    • @Nglurugtanpabala
      @Nglurugtanpabala 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kepil

    • @muhammadfayiz3243
      @muhammadfayiz3243 ปีที่แล้ว

      so is your grandfather still alive right now?

    • @endahyani2573
      @endahyani2573 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where Is Sepuran?

    • @rabbitspeed
      @rabbitspeed ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm Indo, from a dutch mother and Indo father. I'm really sad to hear this. So blessed that our generation isn't put into position were we have to kill each other.

    • @endahyani2573
      @endahyani2573 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rabbitspeed yup

  • @TheLark7567
    @TheLark7567 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As a Dutch-Indo who's great Opa was a POW, I do not seek an apology. I was not there and those who committed those crimes are now dead just like the ones who had suffered through it. Rather, It is a valuable lesson learned to understand how war is a crime and should be taken very seriously. All I ask is that no one holds the guilt or grudges of their ancestors but instead move forward for a better future that they all would have wanted.

  • @beyondtv8338
    @beyondtv8338 5 ปีที่แล้ว +210

    Hi, I am Dutch and I apologize for our cruelty in Indonesia😞
    Glad that the relation between the nederlands and Indonesia is good now.

    • @budisetiono1752
      @budisetiono1752 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I am the younger generation of Indonesia, until present time I can still feel the pain and bitterness ....and Its is hard to forgive the past!!!!

    • @Zxxain
      @Zxxain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@budisetiono1752 then whats you gonna do?

    • @muhammadhaidarr952
      @muhammadhaidarr952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      yessss... Indonesia was colonized for 350 years but Indonesia still has to pay a lot of guilders .
      wht the heck

    • @andikafabian
      @andikafabian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Your country should apologize officially

    • @imawormbeforeiamaman4261
      @imawormbeforeiamaman4261 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Zxxain Mungkin dia cokbun aja biar kepalanya adem

  • @cashew1
    @cashew1 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Hats off to this man, as it takes guts to speak honestly when you know you've done wrong... with no buts or excuses.

  • @MoskusMoskiferus1611
    @MoskusMoskiferus1611 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    He got a War Flashback...

  • @heavenlystories
    @heavenlystories 7 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    In war everyone's a victim,, a victim of war itself.

    • @josephstalin7654
      @josephstalin7654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is not a war, it's a colonialism, the colonized country is the innocent, the colonizer is the victim

    • @slaire7799
      @slaire7799 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@josephstalin7654 then who’s the perpetrator

    • @briviotimbuleng5224
      @briviotimbuleng5224 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@josephstalin7654 what he mean is How war effects everyone not just the natives but also colonizer soldier like the man.
      he's just following his general order and forced to go war

    • @briviotimbuleng5224
      @briviotimbuleng5224 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@josephstalin7654 and also the fight between native and colonizer still counted as a war

  • @FathinLuqmanTantowi
    @FathinLuqmanTantowi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    tentara cuma bisa laksanakan perintah bung. that's what we learn from this video.
    the scum is the ones who enjoy doing that.
    and the company who tax people unfairly (70% farm yield, forced labor for youth),
    the very company who burn excess product to prevent farmer sell extra stuff for better life,

    • @yogiesetiadi1506
      @yogiesetiadi1506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fuck Sukarno

    • @atom8872
      @atom8872 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dari Indonesia

    • @FathinLuqmanTantowi
      @FathinLuqmanTantowi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ada apa ini ada apa, saya komen apa dibalas apa.

    • @AnimationPlace
      @AnimationPlace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FathinLuqmanTantowi biasa bro

    • @Pie6108
      @Pie6108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yogiesetiadi1506 ngapain lu ngatain pahlawan,kalo gaada ir, Soekarno lu gaada disini mumgkin belum merdeka

  • @jessicalona2625
    @jessicalona2625 6 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Be smart,, people! There were lots of dutch soldiers who honestly felt terrible about these murders and persecutions. But at the same time, they need to follow the instructions given by their superiors. I'm indonesian but also half dutch. My great grandpa and my great greatpa, also my great great great grandpa, worked in dutch military. They were 100% dutch. But, they taught everyone in the family to be good people. They honestly didn't like any cruelties. But again, they got no choice but to follow orders. Bukti nya, oma opa, mama sy bahkan sy sendiri, hidup sebagai orang yg sangat mencintai bangsa ini. Ya, keluarga sy datang dr bangsa penjajah. Tp mereka yg membuat sy tumbuh jd pribadi yg baik dgn sesama dan terutama mencintai bangsa ini. Tidak semua penjajah itu berhati keji. Jadilah manusia bijak.

    • @goodcomrade2949
      @goodcomrade2949 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My fathers uncle fought also in indonesia my father said he never wanne talk about it. I think he saw or did things what he never wil forget

    • @andikafabian
      @andikafabian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No choice?? Lol.

    • @kamaruzamanbt3825
      @kamaruzamanbt3825 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @;Jessica ; I'm also a good man from a very goog parentage & my grand parents also r v v goodppl & my great grand parents r v v v good ppl only thing they got to follow orders to murder, in other words a necessary evil, no sin, no guilt & v comfortable & proud to talk abt it...

    • @JustMaria2024
      @JustMaria2024 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Andika Fabian; no Andika, together with so many men my father had no choice; he had to work at the Death Railway (Birma) as a prisoner and when the Japanese capitulated the Indonesians took revenge to murder all Indo-Dutch people!!!! It was just a matter of to kill or be killed, so again, my father had no choice. I can tell you my beloved parents lost two of their sons during this horrible war. However, the ‘first’ generation has already died, the second generation lives with the nightmares and the third generation has almost forget...

    • @imawormbeforeiamaman4261
      @imawormbeforeiamaman4261 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@andikafabian at that time, refusing superior order might also be considered as unpatriotic. Makanya sekolah biar rajin. Ane yakin gk semua prajurit TNI pada Masa pemusnahan PKI itu seneng membantai saudara sendiri. Gk semua korban peristiwa itu anggota/ simpatisan PKI.

  • @vintageb8
    @vintageb8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    For Dutch people, I want to say that there is no need for apology. You are not your ancestors, you are not the one who committed the violence. We are not responsible for the actions of our ancestors.

    • @Ned-nw6ge
      @Ned-nw6ge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Thank you, for having common sense. Sadly, some people believe in the inheritance of sins. They do not understand that they should let the wounds of the past heal.

    • @lan8401
      @lan8401 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      By that way, the german didnt need to lower their head anymore, and the japanese too because german and japanese today were not the one who commit violence, its their ancestor. But since they were on "losing side", they must admit their ancestor crime until today........

    • @guidoharmeling5872
      @guidoharmeling5872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I am sorry to say, that right-extreme politicians still have big influence in dutch political life today. The merchant Batavus Droogstoppel ( from Max Havelaer ) unfortunately still rules. So I am afraid that little has changed.

    • @pasofino2199
      @pasofino2199 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ned-nw6ge FK that

    • @reieben886
      @reieben886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm Indonesian Christian, this is what my God said about this matter:
      The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son
      Ezekiel 18:20

  • @frank832
    @frank832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mijn opa heeft in Indonesië gevochten en heeft in minimaal 10 vuurpelotonnen gestaan. Niet vanwege een eigen keus, maar vanwege de plicht tegen wil en dank. Één executie is hem bijgebleven, een soldaat keek hem recht in de ogen aan voordat hij geëxecuteerd werd, dat volgde hem tot z'n dood.

  • @darrelarno9151
    @darrelarno9151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Hahahaha, aduuh liat orang-orang Indo yang belom bisa maafin Belanda, giliran Raja/Ratu Belanda bener" dateng minta maaf atas kesalahan yang dilakukan sama buyutnya dulu eh masih ga dimaafin, hadeuh, sadar dong Indonesia, kita juga pernah hampir bikin satu negara ga pernah ada (Malaysia)

    • @sendyputran6080
      @sendyputran6080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Timor Leste juga

    • @sendyputran6080
      @sendyputran6080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Kalo Malaysia sih itu ambisi dari Bpk Soekarno untuk menyatukan Nusantara, sama kaya gajah mada dulu

    • @kittyjones8703
      @kittyjones8703 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mending kamu banyak2 belajar lagi sebelum mendikte orang lain... Tidak ada Pemerintah Belanda yang datang minta maaf secara De Jure dan mengakui kemerdekaan Indonesia hingga hari ini... pernyataan yg datang dari official itu bukan pengakuan resmi.
      tahun 1995 Ratu Belanda pernah datang ke sini, tp tdk disambut Presiden Suharto.
      Dan kamu jelas tidak memiliki pengetahuan apa2 Tentang Dwikora karna statementnya tdk nyambung, jd jangan repot2 berdebat.

    • @darrelarno9151
      @darrelarno9151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kittyjones8703 Permisi, anda ini ngomong apa ya? Belanda mengakui kemerdekaan Indonesia setelah 2 kali agresi militer, setelah sekian banyaknya perjanjian dan konvensi dengan PBB dan desakan negara adidaya (Amerika) akhirnya Belanda mengakui kemerdekaan Indonesia.
      Dan untuk permintaan maaf, pada tahun 2020 raja dan ratu Belanda datang ke Indonesia dan mengutarakan permintaan maaf, disiarkan secara live dan bisa dicari dokumentasinya di youtube, monggo dicari...
      saya bukannya mau membela Belanda, saya cuman sebal sama orang Indonesia yang mengorek luka lama.

    • @darrelarno9151
      @darrelarno9151 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kittyjones8703 Memang Belanda belum mengakui Indonesia secara de jure pada tahun 1945, tapi pada tahun 1949. Alasan utamanya itu kalau mereka mengakui kemerdekaan Indonesia tahun 1945, mereka mengakui bahwa mereka bukan sedang meredakan konflik di tanah mereka, tapi menyerang negara merdeka secara militer, kalau mereka mengakui secara de jure waktu itu, bantuan Marshall Plan dari Amerika bisa berhenti untuk Belanda.
      Ya, kita serahkan saja pada pihak politisi untuk menangani persoalan ini.

  • @janvanwelvaart8334
    @janvanwelvaart8334 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Met het Friese accent vertelde hij het verhaal zo zwaar en bedoelde hij oendjoek gigi geen kwaad om alle merah-poetih-jagers te bestoken. Zo super veteraan.

  • @Joy3269
    @Joy3269 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    May God Bless This Good Human Being for his Good Ideals., ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🌺🌺🌺🌸🌸🌸🌷🌷🌷🌹🌹🌹🌻🌻🌻.

  • @AussieDutch
    @AussieDutch 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    99% of all countries in the world have done bad things in the past. We should learn from history - and not repeat the mistakes made in the past. We are all humans - we all have the same colour blood - we all want to live happy lives and we all deserve it !

    • @Ned-nw6ge
      @Ned-nw6ge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Make that 100%. Cruelty is part of us because it is part of nature. But furthermore, yes I agree.

    • @kaspervletter290
      @kaspervletter290 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like there is probably some dumb island nation that has never done anything really bad

    • @rakyatjelata5135
      @rakyatjelata5135 ปีที่แล้ว

      ❤️ from 🇮🇩

  • @ardiansip2742
    @ardiansip2742 8 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    the history bound us together, we wellcome the Dutchman as our brother...

    • @Oaktree481
      @Oaktree481 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Ahh thanks man. Finally someone who isn't a racist

    • @karellen4913
      @karellen4913 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ardian sip mantap broh. komen lu kayak mutiara diantara lumpur.

    • @bachtiari8960
      @bachtiari8960 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Am I the only thumbs down ?

    • @beyondtv8338
      @beyondtv8338 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a Dutch man, I apologize for our cruelty. 😞, we want to be friends now

    • @lubangpuki9585
      @lubangpuki9585 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karellen4913
      Mutiara diantara lumpur 😂😂😂
      Lol

  • @Darwinek
    @Darwinek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's 2021, time to finally move on. No reason for hating the Dutch now. Tens of thousands of Indonesians living happily in the Netherlands understand that.

  • @ghorip
    @ghorip 12 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for uploading this

  • @christiantobing8040
    @christiantobing8040 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    As an Indonesian Idol just wanna saya mau you sir have peace with your past and continue your life as my grandfather a freedom fighter he told me to never have revenge to the dutch people, we should have make a peace with our past

    • @caneloalvarez3530
      @caneloalvarez3530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Penjilat pantat belanda

    • @fuehrer_tb5597
      @fuehrer_tb5597 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@caneloalvarez3530 kalau kamu ultranasionalis chauvinist yg berpikiran sempit. Pantas bodoh.

    • @caneloalvarez3530
      @caneloalvarez3530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fuehrer_tb5597 hidup soekarno!! Ganyang belanda ganyang amerika ganyang inggris

    • @muhammadfayiz3243
      @muhammadfayiz3243 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@caneloalvarez3530 Amerika kita setrika, Inggris kita linggis

  • @gloriapas4357
    @gloriapas4357 8 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    The funny thing is that the Dutch military leaders were never convicted. Their war crimes wounded so many Indonesians even until today. And they live in Netherlands now as a "hero" or "veteran". How can you call someone who is so greedy and doesn't respect human rights to live free as hero? HOW? You can basically compare them with SS Nazi. I expect a formal apology from the Netherlands Government and I hope you educate your children in the Netherlands of how cruel your nation was. Your nation was built to be a first world country because of Indonesia.

    • @danielb7632
      @danielb7632 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      hello hello we are already told in school that we did horrible things to indonesia.

    • @danielb7632
      @danielb7632 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trigger Master how?

    • @danielb7632
      @danielb7632 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Trigger Master no we are not teached to hate indonasia. we are teached that that was a terrible time.

    • @karellen4913
      @karellen4913 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Trigger Master Your level of "ke-su'udzon-an" amazes me.

    • @plumtree83
      @plumtree83 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ODDBALL SOK and what about the mass massacres by the Netherland? You know what? You guys are practically known as Nazis here in the past. Be proud of that. I can't even count how many Netherland's "fort" here, because basically it's almost everywhere. It's equal as much as the amount of Indonesian suffered because of the dutch. Why so hard to apologize? You keep pointing other people's fault and missing the whole point. You are a disgrace to humanity and of course the rest who like your comment.

  • @prashaerickson6331
    @prashaerickson6331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    "Are we a ss" damn the word give me chill

    • @miairuha
      @miairuha 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      perfect "are we the baddies?" reference

    • @tiaramaars
      @tiaramaars 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      sorry i don't get the reference. what does SS means?

    • @REP2016RTM
      @REP2016RTM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@tiaramaars The SS were Nazi troops who committed mass scale war crimes across Europe, including the Netherlands which was occupied during WW2. It's a reflection of how discontent he feels about the Dutch role in the conflict, as his own nation had to go through similar hardships from oppressive occupiers.

    • @theunderrated86
      @theunderrated86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tiaramaars There's more to read here.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel

    • @ridwan3533
      @ridwan3533 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@REP2016RTM I know some short story young dutch enlisted military to fight japan because allies to Nazi Germany while they in Indonesia they tricked by allies to fighting a Japanese in reality is just local militia (not Japanese force) who just want to protect a country this event horrified some several dutch army realize
      We are bad guy now?

  • @robberthoekstra1981
    @robberthoekstra1981 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    As it is the younger generation will NEVER understand the whole history of what add all taken place. There are three different eras involved in the History of approx 450 years. First: the world history that eventually led of the Spice Trade and Colonial Occupation by European countries. Second: WW ii and the Japanese Occupation and world history that happened during the first five of the 20th Century, 1900-1945. Third: The Revolution and the war for Independence of Indonesia, 1945-1949. Each subject can take as much time as is needed to teach of the students to make them understand what happened world wide during four hundred years of WORLD history. As long as it is being told and explained by people wit a hate and rage "Agenda of REVENGE", in the interest of the individuals it will always end up in arguments. When it is taught by people (true history teachers) with the purpose of educating the students , then they MAY understand.It takes an neutral, and a cool and educated mind.

  • @WELLBRAN
    @WELLBRAN 9 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    most eastern people especially the young people have no clue on their countries history..they are not bothered they look forward only but to move forward you have to know the past....its called experience

    • @WELLBRAN
      @WELLBRAN 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kato Ho Ten Soeng good for you! Use your brain and always question and research...this old guy is trying to put right a terrible wrong.... As best he can

    • @islamicschoolofmemestudies
      @islamicschoolofmemestudies 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WELLBRAN where are you from then

    • @WELLBRAN
      @WELLBRAN 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@islamicschoolofmemestudies from the west

    • @theunderrated86
      @theunderrated86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Too busy with social media and tiktok.

    • @WELLBRAN
      @WELLBRAN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tytoalba4794 agh glad to hear it...but propaganda in the west with history also or worse than that history is very poor. Just obsessed with dates and very "ABC".GOVT CORRUPT EDUCATION they should call it

  • @samuelli-a-sam
    @samuelli-a-sam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I got a chill when he said. "Zijn we van de SS ofzo"?

    • @samuelli-a-sam
      @samuelli-a-sam 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @derindoreich07 Yeah

  • @blmetal65
    @blmetal65 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dutch's version of Vietnam War but instead of fighting the Commies, they were trying to re-establish colonial control over the Indonesians. 4 years of brutal campaigns inflicted on the local populace until national independence was won.

    • @bavtie1
      @bavtie1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Vietnam started out exactly like that, the French fought to re-establish their colonial control there. The whole "commies" thing came a lot later

    • @rullynurzaman5683
      @rullynurzaman5683 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bloedblarre nonsense.. surely its not the main thing..

    • @nathanhosea489
      @nathanhosea489 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bloedblarre Two sides to every story. We Indonesians view Sukarno's Declaration of Independence as the moment the Indonesian nation was established. You guys obviously view that as betrayal and rebellion. Arguments can be made for both sides.

    • @Darwinek
      @Darwinek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nathanhosea489 Let's not forget that even Sukarno was a cautious politician. He was forced to declare the independence after the Pemuda extremists have kidnapped him.

  • @kylekbelt
    @kylekbelt 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My grandpa was in the Dutch army motor pool and drove ambulance and other trucks and Indian motorcycles and equipment. Never did get the chance to meet him sadly

  • @Tekalook
    @Tekalook 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's Bumi Hangus or Scorched Earth tactic, pretty common in 1945-1948 fighting for freedom in Indonesia

  • @muhammadfayiz3243
    @muhammadfayiz3243 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow really such a good documentary, I wanna see more video like this for lessons

  • @erianto2670
    @erianto2670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Warisan Belanda yang tidak akan hilang di Indonesia adalah politik adu domba nya yang masih bertahan sampai saat ini.

  • @damianr98
    @damianr98 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I am Dutch (and half Polish) and I am so ashamed for what we did after WW2. We were just occupied by the germans for 5 years, 5 years of murdering and suffering and the Dutch were so happy when they were liberated by the allies.
    So you think the Dutch would learn from that and leave Indonesia alone, but no. They went to Indonesia with the same violence and oppression like the germans did in WW2 ?!?!
    The most hypocrite thing I’ve ever heard...

    • @imawormbeforeiamaman4261
      @imawormbeforeiamaman4261 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Imperialist mentality, That was what happened. The thing that bother me is that Indonesian govt had to pay billions of guilders to Dutch for whatever reason. Wth

    • @alifoemry5217
      @alifoemry5217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We respect dutch people, as personal. But your government must do official apologize to us

    • @ashokafulcrum4795
      @ashokafulcrum4795 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ever heard of Bersiap?

    • @sebastiangiovinco2871
      @sebastiangiovinco2871 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ashokafulcrum4795 ever heard Westerling ?

  • @bayuraga2229
    @bayuraga2229 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My grandpa as veteran tentara pelajar in gombong, central java near fort general cochius . But now local comunity called benteng van der wijk , join at war combat " sidobunder " august 29, 1947 .

  • @endahyani2573
    @endahyani2573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very honest confession, while many ex knil descendants still.miss the Colonial era

  • @AdriansyahSaladin
    @AdriansyahSaladin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:00 yeah a lot of dutch soldier acted as cruel as waffen ss in indonesia, yet they didnt remember how the Nazis ever treated em

  • @reieben886
    @reieben886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son:
    Ezekiel 18:20
    I'm indonesian christian, i say dutch younger generation now are blameless, they cannot bear the sins of their fathers infront of God.. if you cannot forgive other human sins for you how can God forgive your sins?

  • @scorpssagitarius2488
    @scorpssagitarius2488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bapak ini masih lumayan muda.mungkin video ini dibuat awal 70an.

  • @empireofnervania
    @empireofnervania 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So he serve as a dutch soldier during the indonesia war of independence and so he is 90+ year old

  • @adriel7254
    @adriel7254 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Actually I really hate the Netherlands because they have ruined our country, and they only apologized after a few years,If they come back again, we Indonesians will fight until our last drop of blood, LONG INDONESIAN!!! MERDEKA!!🇲🇨🇲🇨🇲🇨

  • @liahamada
    @liahamada ปีที่แล้ว

    7 years ago when i was in junior high school my history teacher taught this song to us. I hope some of you know this
    Sapuluh november taon ompat puluh lima. Sabur ma paporangan di kota Surabaya. Bolanda, Inggeris naung songon i tentara gurgar. Mangangkat sinjata lao mamorang Indonesia
    Amang inange disi ma range²
    Amang inange humophop hita be

  • @ingtelcuy5462
    @ingtelcuy5462 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you Dutch,because of your colonisation,our country become stronger

    • @limcako41
      @limcako41 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dutch East Indies united the islands together so Indonesia can be formed.Otherwise the area will consist of various island countries like the South Pacific and Carribean

    • @rizt513
      @rizt513 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      no before dutch, majapahit empire is the first one to unity nusantara (Indonesia, Malaya, Singapore, Brunei, Southern Thailand)

    • @andikafabian
      @andikafabian 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rizt513 Majapahit taikmu

    • @rizt513
      @rizt513 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andika Fabian and one word for you "BACOT".

    • @andikafabian
      @andikafabian 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rizt513 hentikan dongeng Majapahit menguasai Asia Tenggara. Indonesia bukan cuma Jawa.

  • @djamalmirdad3846
    @djamalmirdad3846 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sapuran? where is it? i found sapuran is a district in wonosobo, central java province.

  • @nuruddinaraniri2161
    @nuruddinaraniri2161 11 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    tahun barapa shootingnya ini .............spserti tahun 1970an

  • @maulanahanif
    @maulanahanif 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kita harus berterimakasih kepada pahlawan pahlawan dan bersyukur hidup dimasa sekarang, ya walaupun jaman 1980an adalah masa yang indah bagi orang² yang kelahiran ditahun tersebut.. namun sebelum merdeka betapa tersiksanya pribumi ini, pahlawan terimakasih karena jasamu kini negara indonesia sudah merdekaa..

  • @rahmathidayatd6998
    @rahmathidayatd6998 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Do you know westerling meneer?

  • @vladodjuric3385
    @vladodjuric3385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fruit grows on trees, pick it yourself. Do not ask payments from locals, do not fight war. Go to jungle and pick fruit, fruit grows on trees.

  • @ghandithesupremeleader9740
    @ghandithesupremeleader9740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Belanda itu kayak inggris ngak separah perancis dan spanyol & portugis... Kejam sih ada tapi bayangkan dengan perancis dan negara eropa lainya...

  • @davidroman9945
    @davidroman9945 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pahami, mereka trauma setelah dilucuti Nazi selama PD2,
    Kemudian mereka diminta lucuti Indonesia, Seperti Nazi lucuti mereka
    Banyak Veteran Perang Agresi Militer 1 & 2 yang alami Post-Traumatic cukup parah disana.
    God Bless You, Dutch Soldier

    • @janisedhiwibowos.h.8639
      @janisedhiwibowos.h.8639 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Emangnya gua perduli??? Kelakuan mereka gak beda denga Kelakuan Nazi Jerman di Belanda? Apa beda Jenderal Anjing Spoor dengan Hitler?

    • @muhamadrizal4
      @muhamadrizal4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@janisedhiwibowos.h.8639 kalau kelakuannya mirip hitler, udah aada camp konsentrasi di indo

    • @briviotimbuleng5224
      @briviotimbuleng5224 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@janisedhiwibowos.h.8639 yg dia maksud tentara biasa buka jenderal mereka

  • @manusiakerdus1233
    @manusiakerdus1233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Dutch and the Japanese were lucky, because we Indonesians have moved on, unlike the Holocaust, they are still hunting all the ex-Nazis to this day. He couldn't visit this site if it's their camp. 😅

  • @hendysatria6255
    @hendysatria6255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Netherlands🇳🇱: this is our land
    England 🇬🇧: this is our land
    Japan🇯🇵 :this is our land
    Soviet unit🇷🇺🇨🇳🇲🇨🇰🇵🇻🇳: this land is ours for common prosperity,

  • @hasansyadzili2538
    @hasansyadzili2538 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Indonesia Flashback......

  • @fajarapriandi3994
    @fajarapriandi3994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Video ini taun berapa ya diambilnya? Kayanya masih belom lama setelah kemerdekaan.

    • @icefl4re597
      @icefl4re597 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Filmnya tahun 1997.
      Veteran Belanda mulai ngomong ttg yg ada di Indonesia tahun 70-an. Ya, kayaknya itu. Ini di desa Marongsari, Wonosobo.

  • @randomedhk.8388
    @randomedhk.8388 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As Indonesian I forgive Dutch people but we will never forget of what you guys been done to Indonesia.will be awful storytelling till world ends.

  • @teedeww5049
    @teedeww5049 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its okay, an order is an order. The past is the past. It was a war in anyways. I understand what he had been through. In a war, everyone loses something.

  • @MrDatu2000
    @MrDatu2000 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    good memories

  • @emomales5782
    @emomales5782 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    marong sari, sapuran district wonosobo regency, central java
    is it correct?
    looks like it taken in the 80s

  • @danieltheoof135
    @danieltheoof135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    im dutch and i apologize for the schocking things my ancestors did.

    • @vimefansindonesia9505
      @vimefansindonesia9505 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can apologize you but history must remember my grand father kill by dutch cruel

    • @fixno9274
      @fixno9274 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      apologize after your country destroyed and brutally killed our ancestors and plundered our country's property? your country became a developed country due to seizing our country's wealth is very shameful 🇳🇱🤮🤮

    • @reieben886
      @reieben886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son
      Ezekiel 18:20

    • @reieben886
      @reieben886 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fixno9274 i'm indonesian too.. you cannot blame anyone because their father's sins.. he is blameless.. learn to forgive the past and embrace future with sincerity

    • @danieltheoof135
      @danieltheoof135 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      im not sure if my family was involved in Indonesia but if they were and they did bad things i should say sorry.

  • @rainfold8285
    @rainfold8285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    so many bloodshet.. but this londo remember it so well.. now the dutch learn that they was so wrong to do that in the past.. so many hatred and sorrow they cant pay what they left behind just apologize from the king it self.. as younger generation we just saw this as a bad reminder how bad is colonize was for both people..

  • @heydie007
    @heydie007 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    where full film...

  • @awesoemdued
    @awesoemdued 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didnt really care about the dutch soldiers... Because they invaded not defended...

  • @ardiansyahlatif809
    @ardiansyahlatif809 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pulang kampung

    • @konroi
      @konroi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      buset dah

  • @triyonohendry1747
    @triyonohendry1747 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It is good history in the past. But until now, I still wonder why Dutch occupied Indonesia? If I was born at that time, perhaps I also hold gun to defend my country from occupation.

    • @oddballsok
      @oddballsok 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Triyono Yono
      dzjee jah...why is that one nation attacks, occupies, colonizes another nation ?
      School history books in Japan and RI are obviously biased. Thank God for free internet and wikipedia.
      Closer to home you may wonder wtf is RI doing in Timor Timor, Irian Jaya and molukkas and in 1960s in Borneo, Malaysia...
      If you know the answer, tell us..and we may progress about the european colonizers incentives.

    • @kiagusabiyan8410
      @kiagusabiyan8410 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ODDBALL SOK
      Europe is cruel country with some luck and wealth

    • @faizalbudi3882
      @faizalbudi3882 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +ODDBALL SOK indonesia hate slavery

    • @oddballsok
      @oddballsok 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      budi; I am glad that they do..however, even today indonesia sends 1000s of girls to work practically as SLAVES in Saudi Arabia. And if these reports come to light in the media, the RI does...exactly...NOTHING for their own people. De facto supporting sexual slavery and abuse in Saudi Arabia.
      and why ? for the mooooooneeeeyyyy from the sheik investors (in harbours ? airfields ? universities ? nooooo in mosques, more mosques and much more and bigger mosques...).

    • @jasmineleaf135
      @jasmineleaf135 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      karna Belanda tertarik dengan rempah" yg beragam, tambang emas, hutan yang luas, dll potensi alam lai nya yang ada di Indo.

  • @viennaazza1279
    @viennaazza1279 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is weird after dutch troops after raped Indonesian woman, they had a trauma..it's a drama

  • @marzuqjanwar6247
    @marzuqjanwar6247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When hatred caused 1 million problems, Hatred solved not even 1, so these mans are just mean and mean if not mean then mean

  • @patriot4786
    @patriot4786 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Then we had the dutch king and queen visiting Indonesia this year saying simply "we were sorry"

    • @darrelarno9151
      @darrelarno9151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      you make it sound like they're not really sorry, which is very wrong, The King and Queen of Dutch themselves come to Indonesia, in the time of Covid pandemic, officially apologize to Indonesia in front of World Media for all to see, offers us a cooperation in economic and science matter, and seek to return our stolen artifact to us, I say they are pretty damn genuine in apologizing.
      moral of the story is, don't blame the child for the sins of their father's.

    • @fuehrer_tb5597
      @fuehrer_tb5597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It was happen 75 years ago. The younger dutch generation doesn't have to bear the sin of their grandfathers.

    • @Iiuuuiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
      @Iiuuuiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dude even I am ashamed of it, but what can I do other than say sorry for the people that came before me? Realizing your country did simulair things to what the nazi’s did to us is hard to take. You always want to believe that what your country stands for is the right thing, until you stop being naïef and look at things objectively.

    • @fuehrer_tb5597
      @fuehrer_tb5597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Iiuuuiiiiiiiiiiiiiii that is indonesian for you. A bunch of indoctrinate goons who knows nothing more than our "country is the best" I am indonesian myself, witnessing how the indoctrination during our education in schools really affect indonesian mindset.

  • @maverikz88mav51
    @maverikz88mav51 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the history is bounded for every side who get in the same period... we're just human being. Once it's over, than it's over.. only learning what is the goodness left and never done the bad thing again

  • @nurwahyudin2672
    @nurwahyudin2672 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    do you know benteng vander vijk in gombong ?

  • @yabegonolah8359
    @yabegonolah8359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:11 AMPUN AMPUN

  • @indrazable
    @indrazable 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    against who did he war with?..Japanese?

    • @DearChanel
      @DearChanel 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      indonesia freedom fighter

    • @oddballsok
      @oddballsok 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      japanese collaborators

    • @emomales5782
      @emomales5782 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      indonesian javanese to be exact
      it was indonesian revolution revolution in 1945-1948
      pretty much similar with the independence of United States of America from Great Britain

  • @calpicox
    @calpicox 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Japanese people won't admit their freaking mistake. Good sport here.

    • @ezento98
      @ezento98 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You mean *some* Japanese people. That's the problem with the media, it generalizes, and in this case, it generalizes that ALL Japanese people won't accept their war crimes which is a big misconception

    • @qq84
      @qq84 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nearly all are covering it up and you can´t refer to the Japanese military as "some" - thats belittlement.

    • @ThisDutchDude
      @ThisDutchDude 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ezento98 most japanese people. Had to correct you there

  • @dantekaori8648
    @dantekaori8648 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Als ik een Nederlander was

  • @rasnosehobbieschannel8941
    @rasnosehobbieschannel8941 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sapuran Wonosobo......setelah Kepil.

  • @arkana5572
    @arkana5572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    War is where the young are tricked by the old and bitter into killing eachother
    -Niko Belic

  • @MasDipoS
    @MasDipoS 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ehm* westerling

  • @riko2061
    @riko2061 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sure old man

    • @jaronimo1976
      @jaronimo1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have anything to say?

  • @houssemlfi6882
    @houssemlfi6882 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    330 years of colonisation and we still a Muslim country Alhamdoulilah.

  • @konroi
    @konroi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    dude datok kencing di sarung sambil minta maaf sakit hatiku

    • @GambitCacun
      @GambitCacun 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Iya.... Miris sekali, jadi orang lemah. Sampai badan gemetaran.

  • @bobimuji
    @bobimuji 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    war its hurt

  • @nurahmadkhairuramadhan571
    @nurahmadkhairuramadhan571 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good luck 👍

  • @Thomas_aap_sigma_edits
    @Thomas_aap_sigma_edits ปีที่แล้ว

    My grandfather is still afraid afraid of Chinese looking people with weird hats lol.

  • @joyonegoro5180
    @joyonegoro5180 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tahun berapa film ini dibikin

    • @BuzzTale
      @BuzzTale 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Diliat dr kualitas gambar nya sekitar thn 80an...

  • @adotholland22
    @adotholland22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    war criminal

  • @jungleaxe8102
    @jungleaxe8102 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    why man??? , why u rush indonesia? , we are innocent! , WHY?!?!?
    BTW...,SELAMAT HARI SUMPAH PEMUDA 10 NOVEMBER 2017!!!!! :D

  • @taksitaksii2848
    @taksitaksii2848 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Moordenaars

    • @ishaannag4545
      @ishaannag4545 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m guessing you are calling the Indonesians murderers? Listen, kiddo, we don’t call winston Churchill, nazi hunting groups, murderers. We don’t call exterminators of parasites as “murderers”. We call them heroes. The heroes, in this case, are the Indonesians who gave their all to let their country get rid of the low lying parasites from the barely floating subhuman land of the Netherlands. And they will do it again if their kind does not learn to keep their filthy selves away from this land, and stick to trying not to drown and eat stroopwaffels or whatever miserable shit they eat . And the Indonesians will be supported. So, my dear friend, please correct this grammatical error, type in heroes are the Indonesians Republican Army. If you still refuse, I suspect you are a parasite too 😊

  • @banser_itu_anjink
    @banser_itu_anjink 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    kita mmg pemaaf bandingkan dengan cina yg sampe sekarang dendam kesumat dengan jepang

  • @agusnovianto3625
    @agusnovianto3625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Like SS 😒

  • @revelintbiohazard4246
    @revelintbiohazard4246 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Indonesia been suffer from death on colonized and now you say apologize
    Think it

  • @budisetiono1752
    @budisetiono1752 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i am the younger generation of Indonesian, but its hard to forgive what those people has been done to us!!

    • @Zxxain
      @Zxxain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lalu lu mau apa budi, mau balas dendam?

    • @ThisDutchDude
      @ThisDutchDude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just like we are the younger generation. Its really weird to see people hold the entire dutch society accountable for something that high officers and politicians ordered to dutch soldiers 75 years ago

    • @sebastiangiovinco2871
      @sebastiangiovinco2871 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Zxxain kalo bisa sih iya...

  • @ulluoaloa5547
    @ulluoaloa5547 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Old man

    • @jaronimo1976
      @jaronimo1976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do you have anything interesting to say?

  • @cookingliza8140
    @cookingliza8140 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good soldaten he said

  • @AR-bh3mn
    @AR-bh3mn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Holland everyware 😡

  • @r.juankhafilah7448
    @r.juankhafilah7448 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Go home Dutchman

    • @German_Shepherd21
      @German_Shepherd21 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is this ment to be a threat?

    • @r3strt
      @r3strt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lmao salty af

  • @z.weertje7209
    @z.weertje7209 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hij liegt, hij deed mee

    • @German_Shepherd21
      @German_Shepherd21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hij volgde commando's, jij had op dat moment ook niet anders gedaan.

    • @DeniatitadenCompostela
      @DeniatitadenCompostela 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hij liegt inderdaad hij deed niet mee z'n Bahasa is niet van iemand die daar geweest is. Paar zinnetjes geleerd voor TH-cam.

  • @Dxco31
    @Dxco31 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry

  • @Ziwfaz
    @Ziwfaz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    waiting Indonesia Invaded netherlands

    • @Snozzza
      @Snozzza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Is not possible we have Frikandelbroodjes

    • @riandraagustian5057
      @riandraagustian5057 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      whattt

  • @leonarmaulana2335
    @leonarmaulana2335 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You happy now???

  • @kasik1480
    @kasik1480 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nederlande Indisch

  • @zainalachmad9945
    @zainalachmad9945 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    tapi sayang setelah merdeka pemimpinnya tidak bagus kecuali pak karno n pk jokowi

    • @VILOHANA
      @VILOHANA 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      zainal achmad setuju

    • @joyonegoro5180
      @joyonegoro5180 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tidak setuju,

    • @MrMaxy1976
      @MrMaxy1976 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      agree, exclude jokowi

    • @emomales5782
      @emomales5782 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      pak karno membiarkan para kuminis berkeliaran

    • @ingtelcuy5462
      @ingtelcuy5462 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Presiden RI tidak ada yg sebenarnya bagus,tapi Soekarno sangat mendekati(Nationalism).

  • @ygjt76v0-----
    @ygjt76v0----- ปีที่แล้ว

    Stolen

  • @tripriagiwiguna
    @tripriagiwiguna 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    one of the ancestor slayer...

  • @poseidin983
    @poseidin983 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    ampun ampun 😂

    • @reigenlucilfer6154
      @reigenlucilfer6154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      malah ketawa jir kmprt lu

    • @corntall2goal988
      @corntall2goal988 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cuk itu kejahatan perang/ pembantaian

    • @BENNY-cl6hj
      @BENNY-cl6hj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@corntall2goal988 lah kite juga tau perang itu membunuh masak teman sii😂

  • @muhammaderlanda9449
    @muhammaderlanda9449 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😂😂😂😂😂