Jordan Creek KAYAK CARNAGE and boat chasing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2024
- Jordan Creek in the Oregon Coastal range flows into the Wilson River. It is a fun Class 3 to 4- run that is mostly pool drop. We took a few people that probably should not have going on this run yet and the results where entertaining to watch
At least folks who swim that much might consider putting more floatation in the bows of their boats. Makes them easier to shove into an eddy.
I have never done bow float bags but it is a good idea. Especially on a tight, continuous creek with few eddies like this one.
@@timlayzell5093 I put two empty plastic gallon jugs forward of my foot plate. Seems to work.
Great run Tim, thanks for taking me along while watching from under my covers 😉
"By now this boat is very clean" 🤣🤣🤣💧
Absolutely. Personally I only swim so I get a chance to clean out my boat. 🤣
A PFD with a tow tether would have really helped retrieve the boats. Looks like a fantastic river, glad everyone had a safe day paddling. Cheers
+1 this comment. Tow tether is crucial
Those are sketchy! Not a fan of using them at all.
Chap Sinclair lol I don’t use tethers
@@em95ren Only use a tether if you have a rescue PFD with a quick release harness. Then they are handy and not hazardous
@@DUKEisALIVE the water-logged kayak can pull you into holes, strainers and siphons you need to avoid. if you can't bulldoze the kayak to and eddy or shore then it's not worth putting yourself in danger. the quick release is hazardous on all accounts.
I think trips like this were a major decision in my buying an IK instead of a hardshell, and I haven't regretted it :)
Iks are fun. Stay safe out there
2 different kinds of boating. With an IK, you can do harder stuff, but a hardshell will let you carve down the river like a sports car. The IK is just a mini raft.
If you hardshell, you need to do it a lot to stay sharp and do a lot of roll practice too.
awesome video and paddling ,merry christmas from Alaska
The best class 3-4 small creeking I know of. Merry christmas
Well done sir! That looked frustrating!
Its all good. Everyone needs help from time to time. I have had my buddies bail me out of some jams too.
that is an awesome looking creek. This is why I like packrafting. way easier to rescue a packraft.
This guys don't need to go to showerthe next 6 mths! Great vid,, funny 2 look@!!!!
Interesting knot at 6:30, first time beyond tying your shoes that I have seen that used
Oh man, knots are my weakness. I know no other way!!
You might be tying your shoes wrong if you’re using that knot mate
what an amazzing creek
Probably my favorite of all time. Challenging enough to be tons of fun but now too difficult
Man that looks like fun
That is a beautiful location! I want to go there!
Looks like the issue was taking the smaller river runner/playboat sized boats. Looks like the river demands longer creek boats.
I love blaming my lack of skill on my boat. A bigger boat will help mask shortcomings in technique and skill but a smaller boat will make you make sure you get it right. This run was a step up for a few of the people that were there. I am sure they will kill it next time.
True to some extent but part of skill is knowing the right equipment for the conditions and paddler level. Taking a playboat, a boat designed to stay in a rapid, means you've upped the required skill level to get out of a rapid without swimming, particularly a hole, several fold. I noticed you're in an actual creeker but most of the others weren't and they got churned. Boats are designed for specific types of conditions and styles of paddling. Someone taking a big water river runner/playboat would definitely have to have far more experience and skill to run it down a narrower creek like this without bailing at least once.
I have enough trouble on the class 2 stuff on the Wilson - and by the looks of this video - that is where some of those boaters should have been boating
5 years later... I am a much better and more experienced boater, but I am still nowhere near being able to do that run with any kind of grace. I'll stick to pool drop and give myself a good shot of hitting my roll in the runout.
I am surprised to see a SUPer on the creek. I was checking out videos to see if it is too gnarly for a SUP, determined it was...now I see a SUPer in this vid. He must be an expert paddler. Any idea who it was? The Starboard Astro Stream and the ability to do that run is making me think Dan Gavere. (?)
It was too gnarly for a SUP. He did the first 1/4 mile or so then walked the next couple miles that are more class 4ish then suped the last half that is more 3 to 3+. I cant remember the guys name but he was good for sure.
Thanks for your reply. Yeah, that looks gnarly. (Just realized I am using my other TH-cam channel handle.)
Lesson of the day: always have airbags in your boat
I can definitely agree with that one.
i memba those days
Right end you get good wave
that guy on the SUP: what would jesus do?
Pain-in-the-ass right there. Air bags...
I would love to try going down that one
It is a great class 3-4 run
Who said Rodeo is dead!?!
I always love it when you can throw a little "UCW" (Unintentional Cart wheel) into the run.
paddle with friend that have tow straps
OMG
On a rate of 1 though 5 of difficulties what one cause I’m getting a kayak
Whitewater is rated as class 1 through 5. This would be a class 4 run.
Tim Layzell thx I’m getting kayaks so I want to know it looks fun
@@LifewithChance8800 before getting in such a run, make sure you get propper training first
Why isnt he using his tow teather?
I will never use a tow line. I don't want to be strapped to a kayak and have it pull me somewhere I don't want to go.
@@timlayzell5093 thank you.
If I use my tow line I fix it to the quick-release strap of my pfd. So If the other boat ist causing me trouble, I can quickly get rid of it. And I have both my hands free to paddle full force into the next eddy
WHAT WAS THAT GUY STANDING ON?!?!?!?
What part of the video are you talking about? there is a guy on a Standup paddle board at the beginning. It really wasn't a good run for a paddleboard.
Tim Layzell HOW THE FUCK IS HE NOT DEAD?!?! OR HURT?!?!?!
Great Job! First it looks like you forgot yourself hunting the green boat (starts 3:20). What if you got stucked or pinned? I see you are an experienced paddler, but even you are experienced, this river seems like Grade III to IV. Recovering a Kayak for such a long distance alone in White Water and far away of anyone who can assist or help is near to suicide. Fortunately in 5:42 i saw your comrade coming along. Stay healthy an be aware paddling dangerous water without any peer!
Chasing boats solo is not my first choice. but I knew there were a couple others coming up behind me and I knew the run fairly well.
@joepommes you obviously aren't a very good kayaker hahaha
Olly wasn’t having a good day
Solo paddling to chase a boat? seriously?
Ill admit probably not the smartest thing I have done. Granted my friend was about a minute behind me.
If you wouldnt paddle a river solo, you sure in hell shouldnt paddle it with others. It is just totally irresponsible to willfully put your life in others hands on a river that you cant be self sufficient on. I have paddled thousands of miles of whitewater solo, personally, and prefer it. Most of the time fellow paddlers wont be able to do much rescueing anyway.
@@ignorancekillsdumbamerican8518 I think there are a lot more aspects to consider besides just getting rescued. This weekend I missed my boof on a 20' drop. I ended up swimming because I was pinned under the curtain of the falls. My only option was to swim to river right and my kayak ended up on river left. This all happened in a walled in canyon with 2 more drops directly after the one that made me swim. The people I paddled with had to throw me a rope so I could get back over to the side of the river where my boat was so that I could run the last couple drops and get out of the canyon. Without a team that would have been a very different situation. This happened at Shippards on the Lower wind in Washington. I can see your perspective based on your experience but I do not agree with it.
@@ignorancekillsdumbamerican8518 Stupid response. I've seen plenty of scenarios on the river where other people are crucial in making a rescue. Sounds like a sour grapes statement. "I didn't want friends anyway...." Maybe you just need to become more likable
deng it
None of them should've gone. They all were beaters.
except maybe like 2
There were some beaters that day for sure. The narrow spot we call the pinch is really tricky and often portaged at higher water. At low water everyone breezes through no problem. when high you have to time the boof perfectly and hit the left side of a 7' wide slot. All that said it is by far my favorite creek to run.
Eh, it seems like the crew was willing to take less experienced paddlers and the troubles/slowdowns that come with them. Other than the one bad strainer it didn't look like an especially dangerous creek to take a step up on. Tons of places to portage and tons of places for a swimmer to get out of the water.
Hell, I just looked it up on American Whitewater and the first line in the description is "This is a great place for up and coming paddlers to learn safe creek boating skills."
The best way to improve is to paddle a touch above your pay grade with more experienced paddlers who are willing to help you out. I'm sure everyone learned some sort of lesson that day and that's a win.
wjennin1 well said!
Guys and girls willing to take us class 2 and 3 paddlers on stuff like this is greatly appreciated and makes us all that much better. I agree with paddling slightly above you skill level but you need the right folks willing to do some baby sitting