Here in the USA, I think Cornish pasties are essentially an unknown food. Maybe they are popular in a couple of places around the country, but you definitely cannot find them everywhere. I did see them at a local grocery store years ago and was intrigued, so I bought it. Yummy! It was called Mr. Pastie. The Pennsylvania company still exists, but the store I bought it from has not carried it for so long I can't even remember when I last had one. Maybe 30 years ago?! There is a handmade pasty shop here in northern Virginia called Pure Pasty. Oh so good, but of course very expensive at $8.49. I have tried making them myself a couple of times, but I need more practice making the pastry.
Trekke. If you want perfect Pastry get an Electric Pie Maker. If you cook Meat, Potato, Swede and Onion with Salt and Pepper Put the Cooked Mixture in the Pastry and cook for 30 mins you will get a Fantastic Pasty type Pie !!!
That's a little surprising as during the 19th century a lot of Cornish people moved to America (mainly for work in mining industries). Perhaps people make their own rather than have a commercial outlet to buy the from.
Ey-up Gareth. I 'ope you're absolutely spot on! Before we moved to America I worked as an IT consultant to the Magistrates' Courts in England. When I worked in Bodmin, Cornwall, I used get pasties from a small bakery near to the Court building. The owners told me that a Cornish Pasty never contains minced beef or chopped swede or potatoes. She said that they are all sliced very small and thin. Sliced small, admittedly, but sliced and the pastry is shortcrust, never puff. I had orders from friends and neighbours to bring them home to Oldham - I had boxes of them in my car at the weekends! Looking foward to your next one.
cheers Tony, yes the pastie doen that neck of the woods is debatable where ever you go. Tasty all the same. Home cooked are best mind well if your a good cook lol
All made in CQ627 - Effectively the Ginsters factory. Also make various others including M&S - it's just the recipe formulation that will alter slightly.
Not on the pasty theme but, there used to be an ad on tv years ago what said Kellogs don't make cereal for anyone else ! except oor lasses mam worked in M&S and the cereals in M&S were delivered by a Kellogs waggon , always in M&S boxes
I grew up on home made pasties, not plastic supermarket ones. I only go to a local bakery here in Cornwall for my pasties, or at a local store, which come from local bakeries like Barnecutts. I'll occasionally buy a veggie Ginster pasty, but no comparison with a freshly baked pasty/oggy. Bodmin.
We have a Barnecutts bakery in Launceston and their steak pastys are among the best i've tried in cornwall. Their cheese and potato pastys are great too!
The Tesco one's foodcode is GB CQ627 which is The Cornwall Bakery in 81-83 Tavistock Road, Callington, Cornwall, PL17 7TA. Also manufactuer of the Ginsters brand.
The "cornish pasty" has pgi status meaning a any pasty that has not been made in Cornwall can't be named a cornish pasty. So the Asda one must also have been made by a bakery in Cornwall.
Cornish Pasties we’re originally lunch for the tin miners in Cornwall and were often made from the leftovers from the previous days dinner, or whatever else was on hand, so could have pretty much anything in them. The miners would hold the pastie by the thick curved crust, then throw the crust away as it would be contaminated with lead from their hands. My ancestors were tin miners and my grandmother makes pasties to die for.
They are ALL prepared and made in Cornwall because the “Cornish Pasty” has Protected Geographical Indication called a PGI status, Just like “Stilton” and “Champagne” It can be baked elsewhere but must be made in Cornwall otherwise you can not legally call it a Cornish pasty. And the addresses are for the Head Offices.
I’m in Kent, but I tell you none of these have anything to do with Cornwall. Ginsters is an abomination. As a big man, when in Cornwall I like to eat pasties. The place in Porthleven had imo the best, but seems to have gone. A proper pasty with skirt steak and love. A thing to behold and enjoy. I hope the Cornish reading this can bear with a tourist.
I'm 100% picking up some cornish pasties tomorrow, I tried asda own steak pie today it was bang on I'd never normally buy asda own products but after watching you I'm all over them. Top work pal 👍 and you're saving me some cash in these inflated times 👍
I like so many different Cornish pasties... I tried an M&S Cornish pasty a few months ago that tasted better than Ginsters... more filling inside too. Have you thought of doing a review on 'Chunk Of Devon' pies and pasties? I've searched for reviews on TH-cam and can't find any. I tried their veggie alternative to the Cornish pasty recently, it was packed with giant chunks of high quality veg (no bland plastic faux meat!) just real food! It had a very similar flavour to a Ginsters Cornish pasty. They mainly sell meat pies... but have a few impressive veggie options too.
Back in the late 80s we were doing some Shopfitting in Camborne , Cornwall at Magnet kitchens , one of the staff there made us a homemade Cornish pasty , it was enormous and the best one I have ever tasted , having said that now am starving and want to try one of yours lol
I ate an asda pasty cold whilst watching your review. You can always sprinkle some ground black pepper over the top if that helps as that's what I always do when having them hot. Thanks for the review. P. S I swear and live by asda food it's really nice quality. Asda also do the 4 pack cheese and onion pasties so maybe that's a next video? Andy.
I get them, and squirt brown sauce on them, spread it all over with the back of a fork, then put more pepper on, so it sticks, plus makes them a bit spicy.
I've had the ASDA pasties a few times (purely because ASDA is the nearest shop to my home) and, because they're already cooked, they only need heating through. I prefer to wrap them completely with tin foil - but leaving the ends open - and heat them for slightly longer. Then I let them stand for a short while to cool slightly - if they're eaten too hot you lose some of the flavour, and wrapping them in foil stops the pasties getting too crispy. 😋
Completely agree 100 % - red hot pies are awful - they have to be "on the way down" after being cooked . My wife thinks I'm daft, but I say red hot - or too cold , both are tasteless.
I'm with you on this, my preference is ginsters for exactly the same reason it has a very peppery taste. I have also had many pasties in Falmouth as I use to holiday down there regularly and my Daughter went to University there as well. One of my favourite places in Falmouth is the botanical Gardens as if you walk right to the bottom there is a beach with a large monument because it was a sailing point for the troops on D Day. Very moving to stand there and reflect. Great vlog as always 👍
@@BaldFoodieGuy Done alot of the pubs too and always use to book the Holidays the week of the Charity Sheild and start of the Football season much to the other half's displeasure 🤣👍
It's bland, cheap meat and veggies. Perfectly serviceable grub that I would never turn my nose up at, as being able to eat is a privilege I will never take for granted, but food like this requires seasoning. Spices are so prized because they can make even the most modest food tasty. Pepper saves what would be tasteless beef offcuts and potato.
I love Cornish pasties - wherever they come from! One thing though, I have to have mine with ketchup - I always find the pasties are way too dry (which is better than being oily/greasy). Keep up the great work!!
Please note all 3 are produced in Cornwall ...the addresses on the back are just head office addresses not site of manufacture...both Asda and Tesco both had the same site of production...look at the oval badge on the back CG627...hope that helps
Nice one mate.true Cornish pasties are made with a superior pastry and with beef skirt as opposed to minced beef thus giving a more substantial and better around taste and texture.this would have been what you experienced all those years ago in Cornwall ( kernow) best wishes and keep up the good work here from Cornwall me ansom 👍
The nicest Cornish Pasties I have tried recently are Perter's available in many stores including Tesco. They are delicious and look nothing like those you have tested
They're OK but closer to ginsters than what you would find at a good bakery. You're going to be paying about a fiver for it but you'll probably get more and higher quality meat than a fivers worth of these factory specials combined.
Hi Mate, I live in Cornwall but originally from London, down here the Ginsters are frowned upon by the locals, have to say the real cornish pasty made by the local bakery's are much nicer than the mass produced variety. I think the Asda and the Tesco must have been manufactured by Ginsters as it cant be called a Cornish pasty unless its made in Cornwall. Love your foody Videos.... Nick Maskell.
That's interesting feedback Nick, that Ginsters are frowned upon down in Cornwall, I always thought they were a respected company but then local bakers usually taste better anywhere, few or no preservatives, additive etc.
The true peppery taste is Cornish and some of it is higher sweed content Tesco and Morrisons both 2.25 for 4 , Morrisons doesn't stock the guinsters now and 40 mile trip to nearest Asda ,sad.More local makers charge up to 6.00 each for slightly bigger items!
@@patthewoodboy same, I'm a pepper fiend. Sometimes I use so much I start sneezing and my tongue burns for 20 minutes after the meal. King of spices and the most versatile by far. Salt and pepper are the be all and end all of seasoning for a reason.
I like the Ginsters pastys. Think the others don't taste the same. Congrats on the 1mill views. A review is needed on Greg's steak bake and Lidl steak slice if you find the time Gareth. Keep up the good work.
Ginsters pastys are made in Cornwall .. somewhere around Callington i think, but the ingredients come from all over the place. I know this because i once hitched a lift in Devon with a guy who was delivering a load of ready chopped swede and carrots to the Ginsters factory. I would guess the meat might come from the big Dunbia meat processing factory in the area though.
It’s a great idea for your channel and you’ve a great personality for it. I’m glad to have subscribed on both my accounts 👍🏼. BTW I only ever buy Ginster’s pasties when I can’t get handmade.
Pasties, they bring back memories as as a family, we used to holiday in Cornwall each year and a pasties were a meal in one, which apparently , we were told down there were originally a meal in one for tin miners and farmers. I sometimes have had them delivered to Lancshire from a Cornwall company but, sadly, there was almost no meat in them ! I try various ones from time to time and I am with you on the Gingsters ones, they seem fuller and I prefer the peppery taste, plus available even in some fuel stations. 👌👍
Awesome on the million views! It's because you're just a regular person who's uploading in a way that's relatable to all of us regular folks Love your uploads, they really help get me through my anxiety and depression struggles... You're single handedly causing a nationwide pie shortage lol 😂💖
@@karensmithson318 i see your point, when i went to Bude in the winter(70s) they asked /talked to me normal, but come summer it was all Tiddy oggy & my andsom swo pleases don't get all regionally cultural with me , been there , smelt it
I just came across this on a sweep, and I am so glad I did. This is the funniest review I've seen of yours. I'm sorry for your obvious distress at this, but I literally nearly peed myself. This is a joy to go to bed on. I am still smiling. Thank you so much. I know for you, this is 5 months ago, but I'll bet this is one review you'll never forget.😂👍👍👍
Liked this Gareth but I was half asleep when I watched this and just before it, the review you did of the sausage toasties thing about 5 months ago,which you said were disgusting and the worst thing you'd ever tasted. You literally threw it straight in the bin. That's why I thought it was funny, sorry for the confusion. I love pasties too.😂
The Tesco and Asda pasties are all made in the same factory ..... just different wrappers ..... not sure about the Ginsters ? ... The meat content is not a priority, as these were designed to feed the tin miners in Cornwall back in the early 1800's when meat or beef was the secondary staple. ... Potatoes, swede carrots came first and readily available.
Living in cornwall for 20 years i have to say the pepper is where its at in the proper Cornish Pasty... every one i buy here just outside of st ives is jammed full of pepper
10 Bob , spot on , I remember my school days when a pasty was sixpence, well done for one million views, I’m waiting for you to review some proper craft ales with a Ginster of course.
First Cornish pasty I had was when I was working down Brixham and I've never tasted one better since. A little cafe by the harbour home made they were just lovely. That new pukka beef pasty tasted so much like a Cornish.
I've had cartilage crunching in my teeth with the cheaper stuff. I know it's all blended hell. But when you get a taste of reality it really puts you off your lunch..
They can try to imitate a pasty all they want but you will never taste anythin near as nice as a proper fresh and hot pasty from Cornwall itself , the pure size and content of one is enough for your tea on it's own, nothin else needed apart from some hp brown sauce , cant go wrong 👍
I often buy the Ginsters Large Cornish Pasty (about £1.50 in ASDA). With some instant gravy it's a meal in itself for me - but I find adding gravy is a must. I love the hint of pepper, just enough to make it interesting.
I have a Ginsters Cornish Pasty for my breakfast every Friday - They are my favourite! And whilst I have had them hot before, I much prefer the flavour and the bite of the vegetables in the cold pasty. Lovely start to my last day of my working week!
I worked in Terrys chocolate factory for 26 years and we used to make chocolate products for all the major supermarkets the only difference was the wrapper and certain ingredients and the mould in which we made there chocolates so it makes me wonder if a lot of these products you test are made in a similar way, ? Peace.
Those look amazing, never had one but would love to try them. I don't know why these haven't crossed the pond to make a huge impact in the states. Really nothing not to like about them, have a great day!
You cannot beat a good Cornish pasty can you?..and I completely with you Gareth on the verdict...it's Ginsters everytime for me. Keep these great videos coming mate.
Nice down to earth vid yet again mate 👍 Ginsters really do know what they are doing when it comes to mass produced but tasty pasties, but seems like they have competition galore now. Still my choice though!😋
I live in the town where Ginsters is based. Worked there a few times when I was younger. Back then they were making product for most of the supermarkets alongside their own products. M&S, Tesco, Sainsburys, ... That was the slices, sausage rolls and pasties. Different supermarkets would specify their own recipe. I remember that M&S wouldn't have MSG everyone else did back then. I wouldn't be surprised if all those pasties came out of the same factory about a mile away from me lol
I'm in Whitstable and I miss Rooks. All the different hot pies and pasties on the back wall. I don't think the Herne Bay shop does hot pies. The best pasties were from the stand in Whitstable Market in Gorell Tank
I sat down to watch ‘heat’, one of the best movies ever with acting royalty such as Robert De Niro and Al Pacino however I’ve ended up watching a guy eating cornish pasties. Class.
Have you ever tried Jamaican pasties (patties)? Yellow pastry. I used to love them living in Handsworth along with Rusty Lees amazing jerked pork and dumplings. Jamaican patties are now available in the supermarkets. Keep doing what you are doing, we all love you
Jingle bell's, jingle bell's, ginsters all the way, and for 10 Bob each, you can't go wrong, I love the pepper in them,and whether you get a bit of light on em or not, they still the best, you should do a blindfold taste test.x
Interesting Falmouth anecdote, enjoyed the illuminating Weetabix comparison, any chance you could do an Onion Bhajee comparison please? Glad you had the drink of water, perhaps it helped clear the pepper and give more of a clean palette for the next pasty, gotta be a bit scientific about these thing innit. Oh and maybe a comparison on ice-creams, now yer talking! Nice clean kitchen too. Not heard anyone say 'ten bob' in decades does tha know.
Should be interesting to see which is the better of the 3. Ginsters = very peppery - tasty - Cornwall Tesco = no pepper - Still tasty - Italian ASDA = pepper? - still tasty - Dublin Ginsters wins due to the amount of pepper and also they are actually made in Cornwall. The other 2 are not. Actually it is hard to see which is better they all looked okay. Still think my Mum's were the best but she made a pastie loaf rather than individual ones, I think holding onto a few pastie loaves would make them last but no luck we always managed to polish it off in one meal due to their taste. 🇦🇺🇦🇺😷😷🇦🇺🇦🇺
All 3 were made in Cornwall as they all show the Geographically protected status badge on the pack....otherwise they would have to be called just Pasties....the addresses Gareth were Asda's head office in Leeds and Tescos Irish office
Abandoned Ginsters in 2004 after finding gristle in a pasty and a pie . Around 10 years later went round to mums for dinner and we both had gristle in our pies , I asked her what make are these pies ? Ginsters she retorted , I just shook my head and thought , nothing changed there then !
i recall going to cornwall for the day as a 8 yr old and having what was termed a REAL cornish pasty and half one half was vegetables and the other half was indeed beef. and i recall it being half the size of a dinner plate it was massive, and my mum telling me i better eat it all cos it was expensive being a real GENUINE ONE, the bakery apparently said to my mum only real cornish pasties are filled one side with vegetables and the other side was beef. it its done any other way such as all mixed together then it wasnr a true pastie. maybe someone from cornwall can confirm or despute this ? by the way it was the most delicious pastie i have ever tasted even over 40 yrs since nothing has come near it.
i grew up near the original Greggs, was a small bakery chain local in North East, they done a pasty which was full with chunks of meat and gravy with bits of carrot/peas ad tatty, pastry was beautiful, then the shop went national and the filling was just a meaty paste, no bits, just piped on crap pastry, dont sell them now, they used to be a best seller
I have tried Ginsters in the past and always enjoyed them, I used to travel up and down the country with my job and Ginsters were available in most places and always tasty, I'm retired now and become very fussy about pies and pasties, I have found a little bakery called Dawsons! not far from home in a place called Atherton in Greater Manchester! they do corned beef pasties and they are to die for, if you shop much after lunch time they are usually all gone! that tells you how good and popular they are! non of the other bakeries do corned beef pasties! so if you are ever in the area it's worth a sample! yum yum!😜
Thanks for the review, all good value pasties, I have to be honest I like cheese and onion pasties not Cornish ones but still worth knowing thankyou Gareth
The locations on the Asda and Tesco’s Ones would be the Contact information. To be called Cornish Pasties they have to be all Cornish ingredients made and baked in Cornwall. Most own brand products never say who actually makes them for that particular Store.
You’re not entirely correct Philip. They don’t have to be made with Cornish ingredients nor do they have to be baked in Cornwall. However under Protected Geographical Status in UK Law they must be made or produced in Cornwall. They can then be shipped anywhere in the world to be baked and still be called a “Cornish Pasty”.
I came across your Iceland Big Daddy video yesterday so i bought one for my tea this evening , I won't be trying the Cornish pasties as pastry gives me instant Heartburn HAHA, Keep up the good videos.
Cornish pasties, I remember working on a building site in London during the 70''s I was sent down the pie shop to buy the pasties and they really were tasty. We don't really have them in Ireland now.
So glad i found your page Gareth and i have bought plenty of the items you have reviewed and enjoyed them all, i did say to myself when recently you have been doing the pie offs i hope he doesnt do pastys 🙂 but i know you have to do content. Us cornish are a fickle bunch and we all have our favourite place to buy a pasty from, Gear Farm, Hampsons, Philips, Barnecutts, Anne`s just to name a small few but you cannot beat a mums homemade one. Keep up the great work i look forward to every video 👍
Thank you very much, kind comment. Yes sorry I had to do it. Its what's on offer in our markets in afraid. I did enjoy the many I had in Falmouth lovely😋👌
3:07 Ginsters has a hard "G" - "g" as in "gig", not as in "gin" :) BTW, I'm convinced Ginsters put less filling into their pasties nowadays. They're also a bit smaller than they used to be, I reckon.
I might have accidentally on purpose got my mum to buy us some Ginsters pasties (I blame you! Lol!) I stuck them in the air fryer, my son and me throughly enjoyed them! We haven’t had a pasty for years! Yummers!
Makes me laugh how many pasties resemble a punctured balloon and deflate when you cut them, only to reveal a thin, sparse layer of filling in many cases.
all packaging is the same mate, look at baldfoodguys sausage roll comparison, greggs look great in the box pic but are the same as aldis in real life, hes just saying what we all think that its a scam ! he should be on tv, what a star, his patter is great
Hi Gareth, spoke to you earlier about the Ginsters review, anyway I'm arriving in UK tomorrow and first stop is a supermarket to get a Ginsters Cornish pastie, from what i remember your review is "Spot On" Ginsters all the way. Thanks for all of the reviews
There's no pepper 🌶️ in the pasties the pepper is just seasoning...the yellowy pieces you can see are swede ....like a bit of brown sauce with them as well. There's an idea... HP or Daddies brown sauce? I'm going with Daddies despite everyone else probably saying HP. Get down to corwall ... lot's of little bakeries and they are next level
Thank you for the vlog on Cornish pasties which I enjoy and I must admit I tend to make my own. They all looked the same but slightly different weight. Do love a pasty. Gingers seem to be more peppery giving better taste. Great Vlog Gareth and well done with your viewers you deserve it as you are so natural and so enjoyable.
its years since i heard 10 bob each lol ,heading to keswick at weekend be popping into the cornish pasty shop £4.35 for a traditional pasty ,so hope you can have a go at these and give a review on then ,love the videos
have you thought about trying veggie/vegan foodie taste off? I like watching these ideals for the rest of the family as I do separate meals as I am veggie.
I used to live over the road from Ginsters in Callington, Cornwall. They used to make food stuffs for all different companies and just put different wrappers on them.
Here in the USA, I think Cornish pasties are essentially an unknown food. Maybe they are popular in a couple of places around the country, but you definitely cannot find them everywhere. I did see them at a local grocery store years ago and was intrigued, so I bought it. Yummy! It was called Mr. Pastie. The Pennsylvania company still exists, but the store I bought it from has not carried it for so long I can't even remember when I last had one. Maybe 30 years ago?!
There is a handmade pasty shop here in northern Virginia called Pure Pasty. Oh so good, but of course very expensive at $8.49. I have tried making them myself a couple of times, but I need more practice making the pastry.
Thank you for the information, great comment, all the best to you 😊👌👌
Trekke. If you want perfect Pastry get an Electric Pie Maker. If you cook Meat, Potato, Swede and Onion with Salt and Pepper Put the Cooked Mixture in the Pastry and cook for 30 mins you will get a Fantastic Pasty type Pie !!!
That's a little surprising as during the 19th century a lot of Cornish people moved to America (mainly for work in mining industries). Perhaps people make their own rather than have a commercial outlet to buy the from.
Michigan is the place for pasties, many Cornish hard rock miners emigrated there. 🙂
@@Mounhas Yeah, I know about Michigan pasties.👍
Ey-up Gareth. I 'ope you're absolutely spot on! Before we moved to America I worked as an IT consultant to the Magistrates' Courts in England. When I worked in Bodmin, Cornwall, I used get pasties from a small bakery near to the Court building. The owners told me that a Cornish Pasty never contains minced beef or chopped swede or potatoes. She said that they are all sliced very small and thin. Sliced small, admittedly, but sliced and the pastry is shortcrust, never puff. I had orders from friends and neighbours to bring them home to Oldham - I had boxes of them in my car at the weekends! Looking foward to your next one.
cheers Tony, yes the pastie doen that neck of the woods is debatable where ever you go. Tasty all the same. Home cooked are best mind well if your a good cook lol
the Devon pasty has a top-crimp and is oval in shape, whereas the Cornish pasty is semi-circular and side-crimped along the curve.
I know these can eaten hot or cold (because they're precooked), but heating up in oven def brings out more flavours. Glad you enjoyed them all.
Cheers Nigel
All made in CQ627 - Effectively the Ginsters factory. Also make various others including M&S - it's just the recipe formulation that will alter slightly.
Yep Paul, it amazes me that people don’t realise this…
Karen Smithson exactly, people must think that all these shops have pasty, jam, bread, nappy, deodorant, biscuit, cheese, pop ect factories 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏼♀️
And slightly less content in the special offer ones 😂
Not on the pasty theme but, there used to be an ad on tv years ago what said Kellogs don't make cereal for anyone else ! except oor lasses mam worked in M&S and the cereals in M&S were delivered by a Kellogs waggon , always in M&S boxes
@@rayhall4578 Well we know Kellogg's is an American Company. 😊
I grew up on home made pasties, not plastic supermarket ones. I only go to a local bakery here in Cornwall for my pasties, or at a local store, which come from local bakeries like Barnecutts. I'll occasionally buy a veggie Ginster pasty, but no comparison with a freshly baked pasty/oggy. Bodmin.
thanks 😊
We have a Barnecutts bakery in Launceston and their steak pastys are among the best i've tried in cornwall. Their cheese and potato pastys are great too!
The Tesco one's foodcode is GB CQ627 which is The Cornwall Bakery in 81-83 Tavistock Road, Callington, Cornwall, PL17 7TA.
Also manufactuer of the Ginsters brand.
we are all mugs !
The "cornish pasty" has pgi status meaning a any pasty that has not been made in Cornwall can't be named a cornish pasty. So the Asda one must also have been made by a bakery in Cornwall.
Cornish Pasties we’re originally lunch for the tin miners in Cornwall and were often made from the leftovers from the previous days dinner, or whatever else was on hand, so could have pretty much anything in them. The miners would hold the pastie by the thick curved crust, then throw the crust away as it would be contaminated with lead from their hands. My ancestors were tin miners and my grandmother makes pasties to die for.
Thank you, yes seen a programme about it, can't beat home made 😋👍
it was a Arsenic on the crust - not lead - been on a tin mine tour
BOLLOCKS,, a pasty is made of beef skirt, potato, turnip, and onion,,, crimped left to right ( hen pasty) crimped right to left ( cock pasty)
I’m Cornish born and bred and I wouldn’t touch any of them , come to Cornwall and have a proper pasty.
The addresses on the packs are where the head offices are based,not where the product was produced.Great channel,always starving after watching you.
You are a cheery man and so respectful to your audience keep that way of treating people thanks for your great videos carol
You're welcome
They are ALL prepared and made in Cornwall because the “Cornish Pasty” has Protected Geographical Indication called a PGI status, Just like “Stilton” and “Champagne” It can be baked elsewhere but must be made in Cornwall otherwise you can not legally call it a Cornish pasty. And the addresses are for the Head Offices.
Those pasties are a joke.
they just need to add the word "style" and the PGI is gone !
They’re all a disgusting representation of a real Cornish pasty.
In Cornwall we think this is a bit daft, it's like Yorkshire telling us to call Yorkies just puddings
Or a mars bar that doesnt come from outerspace !!
As a cornishman I'll have to sit this one out, I could get lynched for just looking at a ginsters
Haha yes sit it out lol
As someone from Cornwall as well I was looking for a comment like this 😅. Ginsters is pretty much banned here 😅.
I’m in Kent, but I tell you none of these have anything to do with Cornwall. Ginsters is an abomination. As a big man, when in Cornwall I like to eat pasties. The place in Porthleven had imo the best, but seems to have gone. A proper pasty with skirt steak and love. A thing to behold and enjoy. I hope the Cornish reading this can bear with a tourist.
@@richardmoppett9481 Pasties in Cornwall are trial and error, Barnecutt of Bodmin and Hampson’s of Hayle are my favourites, a meal not a snack!
I'm 100% picking up some cornish pasties tomorrow, I tried asda own steak pie today it was bang on I'd never normally buy asda own products but after watching you I'm all over them. Top work pal 👍 and you're saving me some cash in these inflated times 👍
Thank you
I like so many different Cornish pasties... I tried an M&S Cornish pasty a few months ago that tasted better than Ginsters... more filling inside too. Have you thought of doing a review on 'Chunk Of Devon' pies and pasties? I've searched for reviews on TH-cam and can't find any. I tried their veggie alternative to the Cornish pasty recently, it was packed with giant chunks of high quality veg (no bland plastic faux meat!) just real food! It had a very similar flavour to a Ginsters Cornish pasty. They mainly sell meat pies... but have a few impressive veggie options too.
yes Suzy ive tried the M&S one was good. I do like there food.
Always loved the Ginsters pasty, when I lived in London, haven't had one for years, glad they are still good.👍💜
Back in the late 80s we were doing some Shopfitting in Camborne , Cornwall at Magnet kitchens , one of the staff there made us a homemade Cornish pasty , it was enormous and the best one I have ever tasted , having said that now am starving and want to try one of yours lol
Sounds great!
I ate an asda pasty cold whilst watching your review. You can always sprinkle some ground black pepper over the top if that helps as that's what I always do when having them hot. Thanks for the review. P. S I swear and live by asda food it's really nice quality. Asda also do the 4 pack cheese and onion pasties so maybe that's a next video? Andy.
Cheers Andy, yes they were all lovely. Your right about the pepper. Cheers
I get them, and squirt brown sauce on them, spread it all over with the back of a fork, then put more pepper on, so it sticks, plus makes them a bit spicy.
I've had the ASDA pasties a few times (purely because ASDA is the nearest shop to my home) and, because they're already cooked, they only need heating through. I prefer to wrap them completely with tin foil - but leaving the ends open - and heat them for slightly longer. Then I let them stand for a short while to cool slightly - if they're eaten too hot you lose some of the flavour, and wrapping them in foil stops the pasties getting too crispy. 😋
Cheers Fred
Completely agree 100 % - red hot pies are awful - they have to be "on the way down" after being cooked .
My wife thinks I'm daft, but I say red hot - or too cold , both are tasteless.
Just bought the Ginsters pasties this morning from Sainsbury's. Lovely hot served with baked beans 😉👍
I'm with you on this, my preference is ginsters for exactly the same reason it has a very peppery taste. I have also had many pasties in Falmouth as I use to holiday down there regularly and my Daughter went to University there as well. One of my favourite places in Falmouth is the botanical Gardens as if you walk right to the bottom there is a beach with a large monument because it was a sailing point for the troops on D Day. Very moving to stand there and reflect. Great vlog as always 👍
Cheers Ian, great comment. I never got to the gardens when I was there. Just allot of pubs and clubs lol👍👍
@@BaldFoodieGuy Done alot of the pubs too and always use to book the Holidays the week of the Charity Sheild and start of the Football season much to the other half's displeasure 🤣👍
It's bland, cheap meat and veggies. Perfectly serviceable grub that I would never turn my nose up at, as being able to eat is a privilege I will never take for granted, but food like this requires seasoning. Spices are so prized because they can make even the most modest food tasty. Pepper saves what would be tasteless beef offcuts and potato.
I love Cornish pasties - wherever they come from! One thing though, I have to have mine with ketchup - I always find the pasties are way too dry (which is better than being oily/greasy). Keep up the great work!!
Sounds great!
Can’t beat a Ginsters for supermarket pasty , but if you want a taste sensation , make them from scratch 👍🏻
I live in Cornwall and I have never tasted a home made pasty that was as good as a good local bakery's product.
@@Britonbear really ? Have a word with the pasty chef 😂
@@thornbird6768 Why would a 'pasty chef' have any input on my experience?
@@BritonbearI make my own. I was very disappointed with the pasties in Cornwall. Tried 3 different ones and none were as good as mine.
Am a new foodie to this channel and you have opened my eyes to the way i shop, keep up the good work fella.
cheers Vinnie, welcome. All the best, Gareth.
Please note all 3 are produced in Cornwall ...the addresses on the back are just head office addresses not site of manufacture...both Asda and Tesco both had the same site of production...look at the oval badge on the back CG627...hope that helps
Nice one mate.true Cornish pasties are made with a superior pastry and with beef skirt as opposed to minced beef thus giving a more substantial and better around taste and texture.this would have been what you experienced all those years ago in Cornwall ( kernow) best wishes and keep up the good work here from Cornwall me ansom 👍
Cheers Colin merry Christmas 🎅🎅😋😋😋
I only just found this channel and to quote McDonalds "I'm loving it". Very down to earth and entertaining :)
cheers Clare spot on thanks 😊
Love the way you refer to cost as 10 Bob! Ahh the good ole days. Great what you are doing it will encourage me to eat some different products. ☺
Thank you
@@BaldFoodieGuy never seen ginsters pastys for ten bob like, i love pastys but ginsters are the last i go for because of price
The nicest Cornish Pasties I have tried recently are Perter's available in many stores including Tesco. They are delicious and look nothing like those you have tested
Thanks for the tip!
They're OK but closer to ginsters than what you would find at a good bakery. You're going to be paying about a fiver for it but you'll probably get more and higher quality meat than a fivers worth of these factory specials combined.
Hi Mate, I live in Cornwall but originally from London, down here the Ginsters are frowned upon by the locals, have to say the real cornish pasty made by the local bakery's are much nicer than the mass produced variety. I think the Asda and the Tesco must have been manufactured by Ginsters as it cant be called a Cornish pasty unless its made in Cornwall.
Love your foody Videos.... Nick Maskell.
Cheers, yes they are the best from local bakers.
That's interesting feedback Nick, that Ginsters are frowned upon down in Cornwall, I always thought they were a respected company but then local bakers usually taste better anywhere, few or no preservatives, additive etc.
I’ve been with you I think from the 500 subscribers mark. Well done mate keep em coming.
Cheers Ben, thank you for sticking in
The Ginsters looked like it had the best filling to pastry ratio.
No I can’t eat Ginsbers they are way too peppery .
@@xvsupremacy7190 thats the reason I like them.
The true peppery taste is Cornish and some of it is higher sweed content Tesco and Morrisons both 2.25 for 4 , Morrisons doesn't stock the guinsters now and 40 mile trip to nearest Asda ,sad.More local makers charge up to 6.00 each for slightly bigger items!
@@patthewoodboy same, I'm a pepper fiend. Sometimes I use so much I start sneezing and my tongue burns for 20 minutes after the meal. King of spices and the most versatile by far. Salt and pepper are the be all and end all of seasoning for a reason.
Agreed on the Ginsters one but if not on offer they can be £1.70 each while the Asda and Tesco are approx £2.40 for 4 even if slighty smaller
I like the Ginsters pastys. Think the others don't taste the same. Congrats on the 1mill views. A review is needed on Greg's steak bake and Lidl steak slice if you find the time Gareth. Keep up the good work.
Cheers George, all the best, Gareth
Ginsters pastys are made in Cornwall .. somewhere around Callington i think, but the ingredients come from all over the place. I know this because i once hitched a lift in Devon with a guy who was delivering a load of ready chopped swede and carrots to the Ginsters factory. I would guess the meat might come from the big Dunbia meat processing factory in the area though.
Cheers pal
It’s a great idea for your channel and you’ve a great personality for it. I’m glad to have subscribed on both my accounts 👍🏼. BTW I only ever buy Ginster’s pasties when I can’t get handmade.
Cheers Keith, all the best, Gareth
Pasties, they bring back memories as as a family, we used to holiday in Cornwall each year and a pasties were a meal in one, which apparently , we were told down there were originally a meal in one for tin miners and farmers.
I sometimes have had them delivered to Lancshire from a Cornwall company but, sadly, there was almost no meat in them !
I try various ones from time to time and I am with you on the Gingsters ones, they seem fuller and I prefer the peppery taste, plus available even in some fuel stations. 👌👍
Thank you for sharing that pal, all the best, Gareth
Awesome on the million views! It's because you're just a regular person who's uploading in a way that's relatable to all of us regular folks
Love your uploads, they really help get me through my anxiety and depression struggles... You're single handedly causing a nationwide pie shortage lol 😂💖
cheers Vamp, Im glad i can help you. Makes me happy knowing your happy 😊☺
That is exactly why I watch bald foodie guy,cheers me up totally.
Cheers Billy👍👍
i think all your comparisons say what i've thought for years, the public are being ripped off, fantastic vids mate
Cheers Ray, your right 👍👍
Any resemblance between these and real Cornish pasties, is purely coincidental.
true, dont they call them Tidioggi?
@@karensmithson318 i see your point, when i went to Bude in the winter(70s) they asked /talked to me normal, but come summer it was all Tiddy oggy & my andsom swo pleases don't get all regionally cultural with me , been there , smelt it
I just came across this on a sweep, and I am so glad I did. This is the funniest review I've seen of yours. I'm sorry for your obvious distress at this, but I literally nearly peed myself. This is a joy to go to bed on. I am still smiling. Thank you so much. I know for you, this is 5 months ago, but I'll bet this is one review you'll never forget.😂👍👍👍
Cheers Martin, I love a pasties. All the best.
Liked this Gareth but I was half asleep when I watched this and just before it, the review you did of the sausage toasties thing about 5 months ago,which you said were disgusting and the worst thing you'd ever tasted. You literally threw it straight in the bin. That's why I thought it was funny, sorry for the confusion. I love pasties too.😂
Glad you mentioned the pepper. I HATE pepper so will try the Tesco's. 💋
yes im the opposite, I love it. Hope your well thanks 😊
You sir are one of the most awesome things on TH-cam! Keep making this content! Spot on!
Appreciate that wow thankyou 🙏
The Tesco and Asda pasties are all made in the same factory ..... just different wrappers ..... not sure about the Ginsters ? ... The meat content is not a priority, as these were designed to feed the tin miners in Cornwall back in the early 1800's when meat or beef was the secondary staple. ... Potatoes, swede carrots came first and readily available.
Living in cornwall for 20 years i have to say the pepper is where its at in the proper Cornish Pasty... every one i buy here just outside of st ives is jammed full of pepper
I've been wanting a Cornish pasty for months, definitely going to have to go on the hunt for one now!
10 Bob , spot on , I remember my school days when a pasty was sixpence, well done for one million views, I’m waiting for you to review some proper craft ales with a Ginster of course.
cheers Paul
Bought two boxes of Phat pasty company's award winning pasties online earlier this year and they were amazing.Ginsters aren't to bad.
First Cornish pasty I had was when I was working down Brixham and I've never tasted one better since. A little cafe by the harbour home made they were just lovely. That new pukka beef pasty tasted so much like a Cornish.
Cheers for that, all the best
I've had cartilage crunching in my teeth with the cheaper stuff. I know it's all blended hell. But when you get a taste of reality it really puts you off your lunch..
They can try to imitate a pasty all they want but you will never taste anythin near as nice as a proper fresh and hot pasty from Cornwall itself , the pure size and content of one is enough for your tea on it's own, nothin else needed apart from some hp brown sauce , cant go wrong 👍
Love cornish pasties, my Mum made the best cornish pasties with ground brisket beef,great stuff matey and spot on.
I often buy the Ginsters Large Cornish Pasty (about £1.50 in ASDA). With some instant gravy it's a meal in itself for me - but I find adding gravy is a must. I love the hint of pepper, just enough to make it interesting.
I have a Ginsters Cornish Pasty for my breakfast every Friday - They are my favourite!
And whilst I have had them hot before, I much prefer the flavour and the bite of the vegetables in the cold pasty. Lovely start to my last day of my working week!
I worked in Terrys chocolate factory for 26 years and we used to make chocolate products for all the major supermarkets the only difference was the wrapper and certain ingredients and the mould in which we made there chocolates so it makes me wonder if a lot of these products you test are made in a similar way, ? Peace.
cheers Peter, yes it just goes to show doesn't it. thanks 😊
Mccains use to use the same for many brands.
They are all probably made in the Ginsters factory in Callington, Cornwall.
Those look amazing, never had one but would love to try them. I don't know why these haven't crossed the pond to make a huge impact in the states. Really nothing not to like about them, have a great day!
Cheers you too 👍👍😋😋
You cannot beat a good Cornish pasty can you?..and I completely with you Gareth on the verdict...it's Ginsters everytime for me.
Keep these great videos coming mate.
cheers will do thankyou
Be interesting to compare some of these products with a freshly home-made one sometimes. Price-wise & taste-wise.
Great video. It's amazing how alike in looks they are. Xx
Thank you! 😊
Gareth I have a strange feeling they are all made by Ginsters
Lol
All yummy though, good price
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Brilliant reviews, not surprised you have a million views, honest opinions. Keep up the great work
Much appreciated!
Nice down to earth vid yet again mate 👍 Ginsters really do know what they are doing when it comes to mass produced but tasty pasties, but seems like they have competition galore now. Still my choice though!😋
Thank you John👍👍
I live in the town where Ginsters is based. Worked there a few times when I was younger. Back then they were making product for most of the supermarkets alongside their own products. M&S, Tesco, Sainsburys, ... That was the slices, sausage rolls and pasties. Different supermarkets would specify their own recipe. I remember that M&S wouldn't have MSG everyone else did back then. I wouldn't be surprised if all those pasties came out of the same factory about a mile away from me lol
Rooks in Whitstable and Herne Bay (Kent) used to do a premium Pasty. One of the best I've ever had.
I'm in Whitstable and I miss Rooks. All the different hot pies and pasties on the back wall. I don't think the Herne Bay shop does hot pies. The best pasties were from the stand in Whitstable Market in Gorell Tank
Yeah I noticed the strong taste of pepper in a Ginsters.. plenty of meat and veg in a pasty 😊
I sat down to watch ‘heat’, one of the best movies ever with acting royalty such as Robert De Niro and Al Pacino however I’ve ended up watching a guy eating cornish pasties. Class.
Haha great film that
It's Ginsters, named from a family, with a hard G, not a soft one which would be Jinsters. I had to google this because I've always wondered.
Once you get an air fryer, try cooking them in there. So much better than the oven.
Have you ever tried Jamaican pasties (patties)? Yellow pastry. I used to love them living in Handsworth along with Rusty Lees amazing jerked pork and dumplings.
Jamaican patties are now available in the supermarkets.
Keep doing what you are doing, we all love you
Not yet Tony, cheers
Jingle bell's, jingle bell's, ginsters all the way, and for 10 Bob each, you can't go wrong, I love the pepper in them,and whether you get a bit of light on em or not, they still the best, you should do a blindfold taste test.x
Cheers Jacky soon be Xmas hohoho. Good idea with the blindfold 👍👍🎄
Interesting Falmouth anecdote, enjoyed the illuminating Weetabix comparison, any chance you could do an Onion Bhajee comparison please? Glad you had the drink of water, perhaps it helped clear the pepper and give more of a clean palette for the next pasty, gotta be a bit scientific about these thing innit. Oh and maybe a comparison on ice-creams, now yer talking! Nice clean kitchen too. Not heard anyone say 'ten bob' in decades does tha know.
thanks 😊
Should be interesting to see which is the better of the 3.
Ginsters = very peppery - tasty - Cornwall
Tesco = no pepper - Still tasty - Italian
ASDA = pepper? - still tasty - Dublin
Ginsters wins due to the amount of pepper and also they are actually made in Cornwall. The other 2 are not.
Actually it is hard to see
which is better they all looked okay. Still think my Mum's were the best but she made a pastie loaf rather than individual ones, I think holding onto a few pastie loaves would make them last but no luck we always managed to polish it off in one meal due to their taste.
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Yes you can't beat your mums cooking can you, all the best 😋😋👍
All 3 were made in Cornwall as they all show the Geographically protected status badge on the pack....otherwise they would have to be called just Pasties....the addresses Gareth were Asda's head office in Leeds and Tescos Irish office
Love your videos mate, I've seen all your new ones so I'm working through all your older content now. Keep it up!
Glad you like them!
Abandoned Ginsters in 2004 after finding gristle in a pasty and a pie . Around 10 years later went round to mums for dinner and we both had gristle in our pies , I asked her what make are these pies ? Ginsters she retorted , I just shook my head and thought , nothing changed there then !
Haha cheers pal 😋👍
Absolutely right. Meat is grey, chewy and full of gristle. I also stopped buying them.
i recall going to cornwall for the day as a 8 yr old and having what was termed a REAL cornish pasty and half one half was vegetables and the other half was indeed beef. and i recall it being half the size of a dinner plate it was massive, and my mum telling me i better eat it all cos it was expensive being a real GENUINE ONE, the bakery apparently said to my mum only real cornish pasties are filled one side with vegetables and the other side was beef. it its done any other way such as all mixed together then it wasnr a true pastie. maybe someone from cornwall can confirm or despute this ? by the way it was the most delicious pastie i have ever tasted even over 40 yrs since nothing has come near it.
Yes I worked in Cornwall. Great pasties yummy 😋
So hungry after watching that!! Think I’ve got a Greggs cheese and onion lurking in the freezer somewhere lol. Great review as always 😘👍🏼
Haha woops yes, I'm full now had all 3 before. Keep me going till tea time lol😋😋😘
@@BaldFoodieGuy haha 😂 I’d have scoffed the lot as well 🐷🐽 well you can’t let them go to waste can you!? 🤤🤤 😘
Exactly none of it good to waste😋😋😋👍
i grew up near the original Greggs, was a small bakery chain local in North East, they done a pasty which was full with chunks of meat and gravy with bits of carrot/peas ad tatty, pastry was beautiful, then the shop went national and the filling was just a meaty paste, no bits, just piped on crap pastry, dont sell them now, they used to be a best seller
I have tried Ginsters in the past and always enjoyed them, I used to travel up and down the country with my job and Ginsters were available in most places and always tasty, I'm retired now and become very fussy about pies and pasties, I have found a little bakery called Dawsons! not far from home in a place called Atherton in Greater Manchester! they do corned beef pasties and they are to die for, if you shop much after lunch time they are usually all gone! that tells you how good and popular they are! non of the other bakeries do corned beef pasties! so if you are ever in the area it's worth a sample! yum yum!😜
Cheers Ron, spot on
Great review mate, I was waiting for a Cornish Pastie review, Ginsters it is then! Congrats on the million views, amazing 💪
Cheers Karlos, all the best pal
Great to hear some of your background stories as well, please consider including more of them 👍
Thank you will do 👌
Thanks for the review, all good value pasties, I have to be honest I like cheese and onion pasties not Cornish ones but still worth knowing thankyou Gareth
Thanks Jean 😋👍
Love these videos - subscribed!! One issue: duly make me absolutely starving all the time…I’m supposed to be on a diet 😂🤣
Thanks for subbing! cheers Paul
@@BaldFoodieGuy you deserve lots more! 👍🏻
The locations on the Asda and Tesco’s Ones would be the Contact information. To be called Cornish Pasties they have to be all Cornish ingredients made and baked in Cornwall. Most own brand products never say who actually makes them for that particular Store.
Yep Head offices UK & ROI. I hope they are made in Cornwall.
Ginsters only since 1969? Hardly 100 year old + tin mine is it eh
You’re not entirely correct Philip. They don’t have to be made with Cornish ingredients nor do they have to be baked in Cornwall. However under Protected Geographical Status in UK Law they must be made or produced in Cornwall. They can then be shipped anywhere in the world to be baked and still be called a “Cornish Pasty”.
I came across your Iceland Big Daddy video yesterday so i bought one for my tea this evening , I won't be trying the Cornish pasties as pastry gives me instant Heartburn HAHA, Keep up the good videos.
Oh enjoy your burger
Cornish pasties, I remember working on a building site in London during the 70''s I was sent down the pie shop to buy the pasties and they really were tasty. We don't really have them in Ireland now.
So glad i found your page Gareth and i have bought plenty of the items you have reviewed and enjoyed them all, i did say to myself when recently you have been doing the pie offs i hope he doesnt do pastys 🙂 but i know you have to do content. Us cornish are a fickle bunch and we all have our favourite place to buy a pasty from, Gear Farm, Hampsons, Philips, Barnecutts, Anne`s just to name a small few but you cannot beat a mums homemade one. Keep up the great work i look forward to every video 👍
Thank you very much, kind comment. Yes sorry I had to do it. Its what's on offer in our markets in afraid. I did enjoy the many I had in Falmouth lovely😋👌
3:07 Ginsters has a hard "G" - "g" as in "gig", not as in "gin" :) BTW, I'm convinced Ginsters put less filling into their pasties nowadays. They're also a bit smaller than they used to be, I reckon.
I might have accidentally on purpose got my mum to buy us some Ginsters pasties (I blame you! Lol!)
I stuck them in the air fryer, my son and me throughly enjoyed them!
We haven’t had a pasty for years! Yummers!
Great Mel glad you liked them
Makes me laugh how many pasties resemble a punctured balloon and deflate when you cut them, only to reveal a thin, sparse layer of filling in many cases.
all packaging is the same mate, look at baldfoodguys sausage roll comparison, greggs look great in the box pic but are the same as aldis in real life, hes just saying what we all think that its a scam ! he should be on tv, what a star, his patter is great
I get around this problem by buying a tin of stewed steak or tin of chicken in white sauce etc. Stuff the pastry till its full.😂
Yummy
@@BaldFoodieGuy chicken and mushroom pie with added tin chicken in white sauce.....sooooo delicious.🤓
Yummy
Hi Gareth, spoke to you earlier about the Ginsters review, anyway I'm arriving in UK tomorrow and first stop is a supermarket to get a Ginsters Cornish pastie, from what i remember your review is "Spot On" Ginsters all the way. Thanks for all of the reviews
Cheers John hope you like them pal
There's no pepper 🌶️ in the pasties the pepper is just seasoning...the yellowy pieces you can see are swede ....like a bit of brown sauce with them as well.
There's an idea... HP or Daddies brown sauce?
I'm going with Daddies despite everyone else probably saying HP.
Get down to corwall ... lot's of little bakeries and they are next level
cheers Adam good shout.
I agree with you Adam, brown sauce is terrific. But HP isn’t like it was, so Daddies if you can find it.
Do you ever do a blind test ? Get the mrs to heat up 1,2&3. Etc. Thanks for your video.
I've tried a lot of pasties and to me, it always seems like the potato and swede are never cooked enough!
Thank you for the vlog on Cornish pasties which I enjoy and I must admit I tend to make my own. They all looked the same but slightly different weight. Do love a pasty. Gingers seem to be more peppery giving better taste. Great Vlog Gareth and well done with your viewers you deserve it as you are so natural and so enjoyable.
You’re welcome 😊
I buy Sainsburys ones. 4 for £1.80
its years since i heard 10 bob each lol ,heading to keswick at weekend be popping into the cornish pasty shop £4.35 for a traditional pasty ,so hope you can have a go at these and give a review on then ,love the videos
Cheers Dave👍
I prefer the Ginsters too - the pepperiness adds so much to the pasty.
you're also a dimwit...they are muck
I like the big Lidl one at 99p quite generous with filling and double nice warmed up. Lunch break filler for a quid.
have you thought about trying veggie/vegan foodie taste off? I like watching these ideals for the rest of the family as I do separate meals as I am veggie.
look in my vegetarian playlist cheers
Nothing beats a true Cornish pasty but for me a Ginsters will keep me going.
I used to live over the road from Ginsters in Callington, Cornwall. They used to make food stuffs for all different companies and just put different wrappers on them.
Cornish pasties must be made in Kernow ( Cornish for Cornwall ) just like a pork pie must be made in Melton Mowbray 👍
That's a good idea pork pie review lol....
And that's why these can be named cornish pasties. The manufacturer is in Cornwall.
A Pork pie doesn’t have to be made in Melton Mowbray, unless it’s called a Melton Mowbray Pork Pie