By far the best bang for your buck at the moment is the base spec Deck and then stick a 512gig NVMe in it. In the UK the 64gb version is £350. Thats insane value for money, in fact I suspect at that sort of price its break even for Valve. Given 20% of that 350 is tax!!! I also think that the massive steam ecosystem that sits behind the deck is a money cant buy feature. Its taken steam / valve years to get to this point. All other platforms are going to be behind the curve. The only chance of true competition in this regard is from Sony or MS. The progress in technology is amazing for hand helds. I have been into gaming for 35 years. You only have to look back 10 years and this sort of system would just have been impossible. I think as soon as battery tech improves consoles are going to be in trouble.
I get that people think these handhelds only started coming out after the Deck was released but that is incorrect. The GPD Win could crawl so the others can run. The Deck is a powerhouse but look at it this way would you only want one PC option, like what if you could only get an HP. These systems give us choice and it is that choice that Valve wants.
Valve actually doesn’t care if there are companies produce better handhelds than theirs, they even welcome all those companies to join and give all the support with their SteamOS, which they are doing with GPD. IMO, In near future the deck might fall behind since Valve earn nothing from selling them, just an added value product only. 2023 is gonna be an awesome year for handheld devices, I’m so excited 😆
yeah this runs better than the steam deck. i completed outerworlds at medium settings mix with low and at the native res, sometime having to scale down some settings even more just to maintain above 40fps.
Now in my country the 512gb deck has similar price to aokzoe A1L 16gb/512gb, but of course a 64gb deck with 512gb upgrade would be much cheaper (170-200$ cheaper) but I still think Aokzoe A1L is better (just sold my deck to get Aokzoe 😆). It is the cheapest 6800U handheld atm. Of course the deck is still superior with full support from Valve, no doubt.
I heard that is the case. I personally think the A1 is the better device to play on, knowing that games will run on it without issue makes it a no brainer recommendation for friends that are not as tech inclined. Sure proton is getting better, but it isn’t there yet
Can I keep both Handheld Companion and the Aokzoe Software installed at the same time or do I have to delete one in order to use the other? I don't play online so COD MWII wouldn't be an issue for me.
You can use both however, when it comes to TDP control Handheld Companion has a larger range of TDPs it can use. I don’t think you will have many issues with both but I would try running one instead of the other. I would try the AOKZOE software first and if that works well enough for you then you should be golden, however if you want to get more power from your system Handheld Companion would allow you to go above the 28W limit and is a little more flexible.
I had to do cuts but yeah at 28W there is more than 28W being drawn. At 15W it will last longer than the Deck still, which is nice and perform better too.
@@bollywood4532 lol I just checked there actually assembly in Taiwan but USA for Product lol do Taiwan assembles them we pay them to build it but the actual product is U.S.A. 🤙🤙
I mean you can. But you are getting better specs with the A1 in everything except having touchpads. I don’t use the touchpads anyway so that is your call.
Nothing can beat the steam deck at that price point . Plus valve has steam to rely on . All those 3th party "steam decks" killers can't compete. Steam deck the handheld king 👑 only thing that will top it is a steam deck 2 . Have a nice day 😎
At first it was nothing could beat the decks performance, now that hurdle is passed. I agree nothing beats the Deck at 400 dollars but at the higher end SKUs, devices like the AYANEO GEEK is only 100 bucks more for way more power.
@@averylargeobject the price speaks volumes when it comes to pretty much anything. Specially nowadays. Let's not forget we are talking about portable devices and we have to be realistic in what to expect for performance. I find it that valve found the sweet spot where to keep things affordable and at the same time having a good enough performance in games . Therefore steam deck is the king of handhelds.
@@ALISHAPLAY10 depends on if you live in America,Canada,uk or the eu or outside it. If you live outside it and most people do these $1000 dollar ones and even the $599 ayaneo air are cheaper and better if we are talking about price to performance.
@@ALISHAPLAY10 Sorry I'm a bit tired. Most people don't live in America or Europe where the steam deck is avaliable. For the most part it's cheaper to buy this 1000 dollar console than the steam deck if you live outside America or Europe.
Nothing is a steamdeck killer, mostly because of how ridiculously overpriced everything is compared to the steam deck + Windows already destroys the device and it's purpouse. I wouldn't touch anything with a windows.
I wouldn't want to install Windows on an sd card, I've done that sorta stuff before, it's usually a bit slow and not worth it, you'll probably screw the life of the sd card too. Honestly just use the device as intended, you won't feel like crap when stuff doesn't work.
Unless the device has a dedicated software store with support for both the device and the software, it will not and cannot 'kill' the Steam Deck. It also looks really cheap. And smaller, and cost more. If this was designed to compete with the Steam Deck in the US market, it is a FAIL. AND OMG, it runs Windows... The a major part of the appeal of the Steam Deck is the open source, open platform concept. This is the same restrictive platform we have been using for decades.
Does HP have it’s own software store? How about Dell? Imagine if everyone only bought one type of PC. Valve wants competition in this space they introduced the Deck as a reference point. You can install HoloISO on the A1 just like you can install Windows on the Deck. If you honestly think Valve wants the Deck to stand alone, you are missing the point. These X86 handhelds have been out before the Deck was being worked on, they walk so the Deck and other RDNA2 devices can run. You are acting no better than Sony or MS fanatics.
By far the best bang for your buck at the moment is the base spec Deck and then stick a 512gig NVMe in it. In the UK the 64gb version is £350. Thats insane value for money, in fact I suspect at that sort of price its break even for Valve. Given 20% of that 350 is tax!!! I also think that the massive steam ecosystem that sits behind the deck is a money cant buy feature. Its taken steam / valve years to get to this point. All other platforms are going to be behind the curve. The only chance of true competition in this regard is from Sony or MS. The progress in technology is amazing for hand helds. I have been into gaming for 35 years. You only have to look back 10 years and this sort of system would just have been impossible. I think as soon as battery tech improves consoles are going to be in trouble.
I get that people think these handhelds only started coming out after the Deck was released but that is incorrect. The GPD Win could crawl so the others can run. The Deck is a powerhouse but look at it this way would you only want one PC option, like what if you could only get an HP. These systems give us choice and it is that choice that Valve wants.
Valve actually doesn’t care if there are companies produce better handhelds than theirs, they even welcome all those companies to join and give all the support with their SteamOS, which they are doing with GPD. IMO, In near future the deck might fall behind since Valve earn nothing from selling them, just an added value product only. 2023 is gonna be an awesome year for handheld devices, I’m so excited 😆
@@khoang6014I am looking forward to the 7000 series devices.
yeah this runs better than the steam deck. i completed outerworlds at medium settings mix with low and at the native res, sometime having to scale down some settings even more just to maintain above 40fps.
Good Review bro, from micro to macro problems with the A1. The settings has a lot of tweaks and confusing what should be better.
Do you have problems with the charger? Can you use it while charging? Whats the maximum upgrade size for the sd card?
That's good it runs MWII. Like you said this would be a hesitant buy so I'll wait for this one. I'll get an Ayaneo instead.
Yeah, I love this thing a lot but at the price I would go to the AYANEO IGG and pick up one of those. They also have better software.
Now in my country the 512gb deck has similar price to aokzoe A1L 16gb/512gb, but of course a 64gb deck with 512gb upgrade would be much cheaper (170-200$ cheaper) but I still think Aokzoe A1L is better (just sold my deck to get Aokzoe 😆). It is the cheapest 6800U handheld atm. Of course the deck is still superior with full support from Valve, no doubt.
I heard that is the case. I personally think the A1 is the better device to play on, knowing that games will run on it without issue makes it a no brainer recommendation for friends that are not as tech inclined. Sure proton is getting better, but it isn’t there yet
Do you have to run games through steam.. or can you install from external devices or isos?
It is a PC so I have some games from Steam, Epic Games, Ubisoft Connect, and I can also install games from CD/ISO like T.H.U.G. and T.H.U.G. 2.
Can you run Batocera off of a flash drive or SD card on this for your next video? Thanks!
I have never used it! I will give it a shot.
Can I keep both Handheld Companion and the Aokzoe Software installed at the same time or do I have to delete one in order to use the other? I don't play online so COD MWII wouldn't be an issue for me.
You can use both however, when it comes to TDP control Handheld Companion has a larger range of TDPs it can use. I don’t think you will have many issues with both but I would try running one instead of the other. I would try the AOKZOE software first and if that works well enough for you then you should be golden, however if you want to get more power from your system Handheld Companion would allow you to go above the 28W limit and is a little more flexible.
@@averylargeobject ah ok gotcha, thanks a lot.
Hey
Is there a option to go beyond 28 tdp?
If you use Handheld Companion yes. And it can easily push past 35W. Quite a good fan in this thing.
I wouldnt
How about after sale support and community of 3rd party handheld?
There is a whole discord full of people ready to help with tweaks and community software.
The battery life doesn't look too good, at 28 watts
I had to do cuts but yeah at 28W there is more than 28W being drawn. At 15W it will last longer than the Deck still, which is nice and perform better too.
@@averylargeobject ah ok
How i use the touch pad
I have one and mine only use touch screen
What touch pad?
The controller
Nice but I have to stick with the deck cash tight
Fair enough, I would save up to get something better myself. The Deck is pretty mid.
@@averylargeobject What's mid about it?
@@SoftEndySoftware bugs make me feel like a beta tester.
Can't be a killer at double the damn price 😒🤣
I appreciate your input.
@@averylargeobject of course specs wise it's nice but price.... damn 🤣
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Steam Deck U.S.A. baby 🇺🇲🇺🇲🍻🍻🤙🤙 No good china for me I'm sorry ☺️👍
I understand that point of view, however I like options available.
Steam decks are produced in china☠️
@@bollywood4532 lol I just checked there actually assembly in Taiwan but USA for Product lol do Taiwan assembles them we pay them to build it but the actual product is U.S.A. 🤙🤙
Just because it isn't made in China doesn't equate it to being the superior device.
@@invalidsin5665 I dont want any product like this type from china period.
Can these devices stop murdering each other for one second 😂
All out deathmatch that is what Susan wants.
you should keep the mic a bit further from your face my dude.
Thanks, will keep in mind.
Oh I can get 4 Decks for the price of one Aokzeo
I mean you can. But you are getting better specs with the A1 in everything except having touchpads. I don’t use the touchpads anyway so that is your call.
Nothing can beat the steam deck at that price point . Plus valve has steam to rely on . All those 3th party "steam decks" killers can't compete.
Steam deck the handheld king 👑 only thing that will top it is a steam deck 2 .
Have a nice day 😎
At first it was nothing could beat the decks performance, now that hurdle is passed. I agree nothing beats the Deck at 400 dollars but at the higher end SKUs, devices like the AYANEO GEEK is only 100 bucks more for way more power.
@@averylargeobject the price speaks volumes when it comes to pretty much anything. Specially nowadays. Let's not forget we are talking about portable devices and we have to be realistic in what to expect for performance. I find it that valve found the sweet spot where to keep things affordable and at the same time having a good enough performance in games .
Therefore steam deck is the king of handhelds.
@@ALISHAPLAY10 depends on if you live in America,Canada,uk or the eu or outside it. If you live outside it and most people do these $1000 dollar ones and even the $599 ayaneo air are cheaper and better if we are talking about price to performance.
@@oo--7714 this just doesn't make much sense mate ...
@@ALISHAPLAY10 Sorry I'm a bit tired.
Most people don't live in America or Europe where the steam deck is avaliable.
For the most part it's cheaper to buy this 1000 dollar console than the steam deck if you live outside America or Europe.
scored a sub from me.
Thanks, hope to get back into the swing of things soon!
Nothing is a steamdeck killer, mostly because of how ridiculously overpriced everything is compared to the steam deck + Windows already destroys the device and it's purpouse. I wouldn't touch anything with a windows.
Thank you for your input. I personally would prefer alternatives. The Deck to me is rather disappointing.
@@averylargeobject did you make a video about that? I would like to hear why cause I'm getting ready to buy myself one.
I wouldn't want to install Windows on an sd card, I've done that sorta stuff before, it's usually a bit slow and not worth it, you'll probably screw the life of the sd card too.
Honestly just use the device as intended, you won't feel like crap when stuff doesn't work.
@@oo--7714 that's why you use M2 2230 for windows. Internal storage
@@patek2385 I usually don’t like making negative videos, but might help people understand.
I have the win max 2. Trust me it's a handheld.
I mean you are free to think that.
Unless the device has a dedicated software store with support for both the device and the software, it will not and cannot 'kill' the Steam Deck. It also looks really cheap. And smaller, and cost more.
If this was designed to compete with the Steam Deck in the US market, it is a FAIL.
AND OMG, it runs Windows... The a major part of the appeal of the Steam Deck is the open source, open platform concept. This is the same restrictive platform we have been using for decades.
Does HP have it’s own software store? How about Dell? Imagine if everyone only bought one type of PC. Valve wants competition in this space they introduced the Deck as a reference point. You can install HoloISO on the A1 just like you can install Windows on the Deck. If you honestly think Valve wants the Deck to stand alone, you are missing the point. These X86 handhelds have been out before the Deck was being worked on, they walk so the Deck and other RDNA2 devices can run. You are acting no better than Sony or MS fanatics.
No optimisations i see😂😂😂
Just a buggy pc
Deck doesn’t have optimizations either also a buggy PC, that can play less games lol.
@@averylargeobject you must be joking 😂😂😂 hahahha
By the end of year deck will have 10000 verified games lol. That all people need mate!😂
Two of the 3 games I shown are not Deck verified lol. Sounds like cope to me boss.
@@averylargeobject lol
Zong lied, people died.
You know it, he is probably scoffing at us from his private island.