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When I lived in the PI we had Rule #1...Don't F the maid. You end up with an expensive girlfriend and a dirty apartment, and legal issues when you try to end it. 🤣🤣
@@havefun582Should 'have' told her, is how an English-speaking adult knows to say it. How is it even possible that you don't grasp that the word 'of' means derived from?
I had a maid/cook for four years when I lived in Seoul. She perfectly organized my life allowing me to concentrate on business. No hanky panky, just wonderful meals, freshly pressed clothes, and dry cleaning.
when I was stationed in Korea we paid the house man $20 a month to clean our rooms, do our laundry, press our uniforms, and spit shine our boots everyday.
Don't hire a maid who is young and pretty, because when you find your girlfriend, the first thing she will want you to do is fire the maid. Find an experienced middle-aged maid with average looks and make sure that your maid and your girlfriend are two different women. When you hire a live-in maid, you just pay her salary and that's it! If your maid becomes your girlfriend she will expect you to help her family. Other men may have other opinions (and that's OK), but personally I never liked mixing business with pleasure. That would be like a manager starting an affair with his assistant. It totally unbalances the relationship and may give the assistant leverage over the manager. Also don't hire a maid who is related to your wife or girlfriend (I have bad experience with that). Don't take just anyone into your house. Try to hire someone who comes recommended by fellow expats or locals that you are friends with. Ask for a barangay clearance and an NBI clearance to make sure that you are not hiring someone with a criminal record. To some of you this may seem a bit far fetched, but these are really things to take into consideration in countries like the Philippines.
I don't like this idea at all. She agreed to cook and clean to earn income to help support her family, then later on you are putting her in a position where she has to agree to the 'benefits' or she could be fired and her family wouid lose that income. That's just not right. Keep business and pleasure separate.
I had an extra bedroom in my apartment in Shanghai. Met a cute college girl, and after 1 week talking with her, we got along, and i invited her to move in. She cooked and cleaned for no money. But anytime i gave her money to get something, i never got change. A dollar here and there did not bother me. It was nice having a cute young lady around... i would do that again.
I had a maid that was very flirty a number of years ago in Manila. She was very flirty and she would wear those house dresses that women wear in the Philippines. She was always naked under them and made sure I could see that. lol
Maid with benefits is a real double edge sword. If she is live in, and talking good care of you. It makes it hard to date a normal girl and bring her home. Maid with benefits that does not live with you. Only comes over once a week. This would be better.
I've been here ten years and in the beginning had two different house keeper's at two different locations. Having people in your home is a complete nuisance. It's like having no privacy in your own home. BTW everything happening in your home will be all over the hood. Much easier to wash your own dishes than have a stranger in your home snooping around.
@@MrArcher181 that’s exactly how I feel here in the US. I heard about this concept of aupair where it’s like a live in babysitter. The problem there is that there’s no privacy. I don’t want the baby sitter eating dinner with us and hanging out in the living room with us.
@@DewTime Now that is a refreshing point of view on aupairs. It seems you don't understand that aupairs from lets say Europe are there to look after your children and in return they get to see the US and live like a normal person with human rights. It seems that what you are after is a black person shipped for you from Africa to work for your family, make you dinner and work on your cotton fields and sleep in the shed.
Yea I know Aussie guy in PI, he’s got a maid and she’s cleans the house AND cleans his pipes. They’re actually long term arrangement. She’s divorced with grown up kids. and he didn’t sleep around anywhere outside. And she lives with him. What started as a maid, ended up living with him full time. and she’s very happy. And he looks after her for any medical bills or her expenses.
It is highly recommended not to get involved with the help. Many of these women are married or separated, which is the same thing. A live-in maid is going to be extremely expensive as you have to provide living quarters and medical and everything else that comes with that. Also, if you don't like the service, then you have a much more difficult time removing your live-in maid . It's better to have a part-time maid service come in a couple of times a week, and then they move on . These are professional cleaners, and you need to respect them. Of course, if you get a girlfriend, she will obviously not want these women coming into the house, and a woman who is traditional will keep her home in order. If she doesn't, then you can send her down the road and contact the maid service and continue on .
"extremely expensive" is very relative imo. If you're paying 10k a month for a live-in maid, and paying for the extra servings of food for her, it might be $400 a month total. If you're surviving on $1.5k a month, then sure $400 is big chunk of that. If you're getting $4k a month in pension, investments, etc. then it's not much at all. I've had sevearl live-in maids, and never had a problem removing them. Of course, if a person were to get into a relationship with a maid, that's a different story (and something I never did).
The problem with a live in maid is that some get too comfortable. Being their friends or even boyfriend get invited over to your house without your consent. Better just get a part time maid and get services on the side but that needs be negotiated in advance. In phillipines that is very common.
Lived with a half dozen women over the years. I can recall the end of each one, but I can't recall "moving in", with any of them. Just woke up one day and realized I had a housemate. And always my damned house. Ever been ordered to leave your own house? If it floats, flies, or fornicates, rent it.
I went through this in 1988 in Honduras when I was a much younger and much more handsome man teaching in Tegucigalpa. A neighbor (lady) recommended a woman to be my maid. She arranged for us to meet at a cafe, and wow, was this girl beautiful. I'm human, so I had to do it. I hired her on the spot. Of course thing changed pretty quick. She was my girlfriend within a couple of weeks. It was not that bad of a deal. She was okay as a girlfriend. And, of course, in time, we broke up. But if you REALLY want good cleaning, cooking, laundry service, etc. you are better off just hiring an older lady you don't find attractive. That is what I did after that. Now I am married to a Filipina living in Antipolo. My wife will never allow another woman in the house to cook and clean. I understand completely.
Having an inhouse maid is a hit and miss. If you're in the province it will be easy to find them. If you live in Metro Manila you need to be wary and screen thoroughly with the interview. Don't hire maid from Metro Manila many are shady.
It gets sticky if you higher a maid who becomes girlfriend or a girlfriend who becomes your maid. I have had a rather awkward experience with this myself and ended up supporting her and three kids for a year or so. I became an ATM to her and her kids. I finally had to break the relationship. She still wants to clean the house for the cash but even that is awkward so I’m trying to discourage that. Looking back she wrangled me into this relationship because she wanted a support system because she had no job. I offered to help her start a business but she always had excuses about why she couldn’t do that. She just wanted me to support her and her three kids. Became very obvious to me. My point is it’s harder here to get out of these situations than it is to get into them. Beware… your wallet and pension attracts these situations and puts you in a vulnerable situation.
"My point is it’s harder here to get out of these situations". That's because you have a heart Robert (which is great). When dealing with women, regardless of nationality, they count on you becoming emotionally invested (or extremely lustful) which they can then use to their advantage. With women & business....I clip the heart-strings the best I can. A relationship is like partnering in a business, we each have responsibilities we must live up to.
When i lived in the PI back in 78 to 80 I had 2 sisters who came in once a week to clean. They were more middle class and you werent getting that without a ring. We kept it business friendly.
If you hire an attractive maid in the PI, chances are pretty good you will sleep with her. She immediately then turns into the girlfriend and you will need a new maid. Happened to me twice. The moral of this story is DO NOT SLEEP WITH THE MAID. I have a stateside story where the moral is DO NOT SLEEP WITH YOUR TENANTS.
I am ready to retire. I have a great pension & just got my SS #. But I find it hard to live in the United States even if you're NOT married & have NO kids. I am looking to retire in the Philippines, so my pension & Social Security checks go much further!!!
I've been thinking about the same deal. I live in California and I can't even afford to finance a house in the cheapest cities---and I've made more money in the past 3 years that I've ever made before with my crappy job. Anyway, I know I'd be able to live a good life in the Philippines with my measly pension and SS checks.
I'm a poor social worker with a small pension , and will be getting social security in 3 years. I'm starving in the USA it's so expensive ...but in the Dominican Republic living better than my friends that make six figures. I spent time in the Philippines , Thailand, Vietnam and love SEA. Getting ready to sell my house in the USA and heading over to SEA full time. The Dominican culture has many positives but always felt SEA is home. My adult daughter is half Filipino , and lived a short time in CDO. Beautiful culture and people. You nailed it.
Good video, but incomplete without Part B: Interview with the owner of a Maid Agency discussing "Maid with Benefits" contracted up front rather than backed into accidently. Such a Fig Leaf deal clearly benefits both parties compared to the usual ad hoc "Pay for Play" transactions so common in the Philippines. (Probability that this cannot be readily arranged: Zero.) An unflinching look at prices, options, and arrangements would sharply illuminate How Things Actually Work in Philippines. Insights are so much more valuable than simple reporting of the standard information!
It seems like anything in life... when you try to get too many different uses out of a particular item, you end up with all results being sub-par. Better to have the perfect tool for each job. Hire the maid for her cleaning and cooking skills. Then if you want a little cutie for "other" duties, hire the ideal for that too. Much easier to replace either as required. The trick seems to be not to fall for the maid's attempts to upgrade herself. A moment of weakness one evening and you will have complicated an otherwise ideal situation. Some guys suggest hiring an older, less attractive maid. The problem there is that any moment of weakness now puts you into an arrangement with a less than desirable female. You WILL wake up the next day with regrets. At least if the maid was a young cutie, you might be tempted to let it ride for a while.
This reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Jerry starts sleeping with his maid. He continues to pay her for being a maid, but once they start sleeping together, she stops cleaning… 🤣
EGYPT has the SAME thing ~ Go through a catalogue & choose the preferred photo. You can have her by the week & she will do everything/anything. Yes, there are 2 chicks at a 50% discount based on your chosen photos & specifications.
Thx Gio. I feel that a maid with benefits could be a very slippery slope. Personally, I prefer to do my own cooking and household chores, at least while I'm still able to.
Yeah, I can't see the value add in it. What possible errands and chores are that time consuming for a single bloke? Cooking for 1? Filipino food isn't that crash hot anyway. I'd rather do everything myself than having some fluff girl hanging about with designs on my stuff.
The only reasonably safe way to hire any inside help is via family connections where the family doing the introduction is in good standing & reputation. You have to be completely straight up with them about what you want- they are vouching for the help & for your character.
If you have a live-in maid; you could also be expected to pay their PhilHealth and SSI . I believe this is a requirement by law, but not required by most maids.
Gio, you and Filipna Pea are a LIFE SAVER!!!! I'm from Flint, Michigan (Home of General Motors). And I'm moving to Cebu City in September. I'm 54 and was wondering how to find a Maid/Assistant to help me learn the city and have someone to talk with. I'm seeking a wife, and I need a maid to help me do the chores, cleaning and cooking. Your Podcast is EXCELLENT!!!! FACEBOOK Marketplace and seeking a cashier at the mall, is a brilliant idea on how to scout! Thanks!
The lower cost of living does make hiring people to assist you easier. The added benefit is something single ladies use to hook and reel in a rich foreigner. Back when the US had several 1000 military members stationed in the Philippines just about every single male hired a live-in maid. Many men married their maid before leaving the country.
You know what makes life most affordable? 1. Being able to do your own gardening. 2. Cooking your own food. 3. Cleaning your own home. $5 to $10 eventually adds up. Maybe you think, but it is just 5, or 10 dollars well money is still money. Another amount you gave was $120, so $120 can add up faster than $5 to $10. Regarding myself I cook, and clean, and I been learning how to do gardening as well. There are other things I learned how to do besides what I said! Spending money is easy to do, but saving money can be difficult. People have gone broke, and in debt with the choices they made! If you do not think about saving money then maybe you could eventually go broke, or in debt. I assume you knew what the pros, and cons were before going to the Philippines. Not everyone thinks only about the services a country has to offer new residents. There is more to consider when relocating to a different country!
I depends on your income. If you make $200 / hour, it makes a lot of sense to pay someone $20 / hour to do those chores for you. Also, the greater your income the bigger your home and the more difficult it is to keep clean. Saving money is not always a savings. Time is money. So it depends on how much your time is worth. Spending the little time you have off from work with your kids instead of cleaning has a value.
120 USD a month? I spent that in a week of groceries in Norway, in a slow week. Then again, there is Manilla for the rich and the Philippines for everyone else, which is poverty and misery. The female driver warning is a real thing though. Most get their license in the Philippines without ever driving once. And women are indeed particularly bad at it. I remember teaching one friend how to drive in Norway and SHE HAD A LICENSE.
ye im curious im considering moving there cause it turns out foreigners can't buy property which sux moose balls can only rent or lease unless you know a phiippino that can more or less own it for you, but nah that's a solid no bueno from me im not busting my ass so someone else can own the property that i bought and more then likely will build myself in terms of a home
Gio, thanks for all the good information. Your channel is probably the most current and substantive Ph info channel I have seen so far... Keep up the good work
I know it feels good and nice to pay more but paying out of band is how you cause inflation and skew expectations. Pay well well but damn near double the going rate actually becomes a negative in the long run
So what the guy is saying is that if you move one in with you, she will commence doing less and less until she's basically doing nothing? So essentially you'll have what you ran away from in Western Society. So the lesson is don't ever give a woman the key to your house or your heart... anywhere.
I stayed in San Carlos City for six months. I paid about 500 pesos for a one time cleaning. About the same for a massage. If you include cooking and shopping(errands), 8000 pesos is a great deal for a month.
How about a wife that shops, cooks, cleans, does laundry, raises your kids. Drives your lazy butt around, nurses your sick body to health, spends your income.
There's a Seinfeld episode where he starts to sleep with his maid and she stops cleaning but he's still paying her. Then Kramer points out that Jerry is actually a john. Hilarious.
I truly believe this is the future of dating, especially for successful guys and girls wanting a traditional relationship. As you get to know each other far more intimately without sex being involved. If there was similar vetting for dating, as if you would marry her long term, then would work great.
My college bff has been retired in PI for the last 6 years. He has had part-time maids with benes for the past 5. He is on his third maid and he has no intentions of changing. She comes twice a week for most of each day and does all the cleaning, cooking, laundry, shopping, bill paying and errands. And, from time to time a little adult fun. he claims that his arrangement is very common among ex-pats.
I was shocked to hear that I could have a maid, cook/servant in the Philippines. Here I am this middle class guy married empty nester who grew up poor in Hawaii. It is a shock to your system to even consider having a servant.
I saw that new female driver sticker on a car here in Cebu a few days ago, I couldn't believe but couldn't get a picture in time. That sign should he universal here in the Philippines, considering almost all licenses are acquired by just paying, no student driving no test no nothing. You should do a Vlog about this Gio.
I have a bunch of pics of those New Lady Driver stickers. . Seems likes its only a Cebu thing. You donT see those in Manila...Its so funny. My wife said its because Cebuano drivers are chivalrous and will be kind and patient if they know its lady driver.
Hey Gio…good topic …just like that old Seinfeld episode lol… and both maid and benefits can be lost…personally I’m fortunate to have all of those in my asawa …she would never let me hire anyone to do all those things…but she does cost me a bit more of which I’m glad to do coz we are best friends too
I Love this type of Videos which actually speaks for Men Finally. I am from Chennai in India. Since west wave is also spreading here in India, I might also end up in Philippines soon. Passport is already ready ya😅.
Reekay did a video on living in maid . Things could get ugly when you move desperate , poor and uneducated people in your house , if they steal from you and you accuse them , they’ll see that as what’s the problem foreigner sir Gio can afford it.
Oh man I just moved to a new city in China, Dalian. And while unpacking the truck, carrying crates into my apartment, the two crates with clothes were emptied out. My Tshirts and shorts gone and who knows what else. The old woman didn't take my ice wine or champagne in the crates, just took the clothes, all my white Tshirts, and my Dior Sauvage Parfum bottle. This week I found an apartment in a different neighbourhood and moved. The local property management just said oh those were rag pickers..... so weird, why take my 10 identical white Tshirts.
That's why you keep the 2 things totaly separate. No confusion, no heart burn/hurt feelings, less of any legal problems or accusations. And most important if one leaves the other can fill in, no seriously, you only need to find one agajn not both. I'm betting a woman trying to be a "Good"< girlfriend, btw, sterotypically also know for Jealousy, would be trying to pressure the Maid out of the picture, however she could, like cleaning so much a maid is not needed.
I have brother in law Do work couple months a year, He brings sister in law, I loved it, She was our maid, cook, House keeper, This is the second year now, They will be back next year as well, I always give them nice bonus right before Christmas to help them and pay for traveling, I would never hire a maid with benifit’s. Thats That’s Trouble
Having a maid in the Philippines who cooks, grocery shops, cleans, and massages for $160 per month....and maybe the possibility of benefits?? Why ever get married in the West?? This is way more practical.
So basically what he is saying is that once they become your girl friend then they turn into a western woman and think they have to do nothing. If that happens then just get you another maid and see how she acts. Then you can tell her well you not my maid anymore so I got another maid who does everything and more. Its true they will bend a knee to their boss but not their man. Crazy
If you got hurt in the West? Live in America for example? West coast? Do yourself a favor and get to S.E.A. and spend the time recuperating there. Man, the massages alone for your feet after surgery or physical therapy is worth it alone. You basically hired a personal assistant got $160 a month. That's FANTASTIC! There is a reason why so many go to SEA to get better and why they have so many top tier hospitals there. The thing is, many of us men can afford it? But then what are we going to put away for savings as that's the big question. Bottom line? My choice on where I go Expat is not based on how nice the place is, but how fast I can go there and recuperate for the next year or so while I Recover from Surgery and the like. With telehealth? You can still see your Dr. Back in the states thanks to the Coooof making that possible. So if you want to get well? Seem like SEA is the place to get that done. Not sure about other things like Hair implants and the like. Heard turkey is the best for that, with South Korea being the best for Plastic Surgery.
Our cousin as stationed in the PI back in the early 80s. His Marine girlfriend found out he was getting busy with his PI maid and she tried to gut him like a fish. The Marine girlfriend was tried and convicted of attempted murder. Our cousin was medically retired...The knife wound destroyed an important internal organ. Not worth it... He should have stuck with the youth PI lady.
If you are going to go the Maid with benefits route I suggest that mention that you might be interested in that with her 1st, purely as a financial arrangement. If she agrees you negotiate a price up front - so that its clear that it's just a financial arrangement; and if she is good in bed tip her well. If or when you get her pregnant there will be a lot of other issues involved (and the longer it goes on the more likely its a when): Be very sure that you understand them up front. Many Philippine woman are not very big on birth control - and they absolutely will allow you to have unprotected sex with them once you get started. The other alternative is just to keep things separate and hire someone just for sex if you don't want to get into the relationship dating game. There are plenty of options for that as well.
Lol iv just realized after reading comments , most people have no idea of their powers,needs are real ,wants are toys, that you protect,stands beside you, its a remembering, lol
Not only that, but the hiring bulletins in the newspaper and elsewhere often specify that the applicant have light colored skin, have a certain religion, be single, and have a certain height.
I've got a question for you. I've driven around Luzon & I've been in the some of the islands in the Visaya Region & I've driven the norther half of Cebu & I've been ti some of the islands southwest of Manila, & in Batangas Prov & all around, even in Mindanao. So, here's the question, where are you filming your vids? That is, it looks pretty nice in the background & I wanted to know if it's a resort you're in or a compound or exactly what? I know you're not in the Forbes City enclave of MNL, but the reason I'm asking is that it looks -VERY- clean where you are, by pinoy standards.
Many prominent family members in Hong Kong often engage in sexual intercourse with their Filipino maids. When the maids become pregnant, these families feel a deep sense of shame, as many in Hong Kong's Chinese community view Filipinos as second-class citizens. As a result, they frequently pay off the maids to silence them and send them home to deal with the situation.
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So the woman in your videos thumbnails is your Maid With Benefits?
I tried a maid "with benefits" in the US once. I lost half my stuff & I'm still paying alimony, so I'll try the Philippines next time...
It could get worse in the PH 😅
No, it can get easier in PI🎉
I see what you did there.......
@@chocolatecookie8571were not talking drag queens here wrong video
That's definitely a wife lmao lol. Love the comment bro. Made my day.
When I lived in the PI we had Rule #1...Don't F the maid. You end up with an expensive girlfriend and a dirty apartment, and legal issues when you try to end it. 🤣🤣
😂😂😂
It's like the worst of all worlds...
Seinfeld tried it. It didn't workout well for him either.
Yep, don't sh*t where you eat!
@@MrBenHaynes People don't understand that now. LOL
even an ugly maid can get you in trouble, just ask the terminator
@@scottmadoff7444
Janitor: hey you almost done? It smells like something died in there
T100: f@#< off @$$hole. 🤣😄
@@scottmadoff7444 Lol! Good one 🤣
Arnold should of told her "Get out! Got out now!!" 😂
@@havefun582Should 'have' told her, is how an English-speaking adult knows to say it.
How is it even possible that you don't grasp that the word 'of' means derived from?
Exactly
@scottmadoff7444 You have to give her credit, though for keeping quiet and discreet and not "writing a book" and cashing on it.
Always choose the older unattractive workers. They will work harder and you wont be tempted.
GUYS , Do you remember that saying OLD CHICKENS MAKE BETTER SOUP....
Same with massage
I guess a hand job is a hand job....sure I'll save a couple bucks
sage advice right there.
No money no honey 🤑😊
I had a maid/cook for four years when I lived in Seoul. She perfectly organized my life allowing me to concentrate on business. No hanky panky, just wonderful meals, freshly pressed clothes, and dry cleaning.
Amen
I doubt many men who've had a good maid would want a wife.
when I was stationed in Korea we paid the house man $20 a month to clean our rooms, do our laundry, press our uniforms, and spit shine our boots everyday.
The problem is when you have a good maid, you lose interest in getting a gf/wife.
@@markgunther2502 Sorry what's the problem with that? I read it a couple times still not seeing it.
Having an affair with your maid is stupid. They start to act like wives. Grow up!😊
There is a Filipino remake of a Korean film called "The Housemaid." Let's just say banging the maid doesn't have a happy ending in that film.
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Don't hire a maid who is young and pretty, because when you find your girlfriend, the first thing she will want you to do is fire the maid. Find an experienced middle-aged maid with average looks and make sure that your maid and your girlfriend are two different women. When you hire a live-in maid, you just pay her salary and that's it! If your maid becomes your girlfriend she will expect you to help her family. Other men may have other opinions (and that's OK), but personally I never liked mixing business with pleasure. That would be like a manager starting an affair with his assistant. It totally unbalances the relationship and may give the assistant leverage over the manager. Also don't hire a maid who is related to your wife or girlfriend (I have bad experience with that). Don't take just anyone into your house. Try to hire someone who comes recommended by fellow expats or locals that you are friends with. Ask for a barangay clearance and an NBI clearance to make sure that you are not hiring someone with a criminal record. To some of you this may seem a bit far fetched, but these are really things to take into consideration in countries like the Philippines.
@@homebasebelgium359 its simple..never let your maid meet your gf
That's what Arnold did.
@@maxxd4119 you can just nail them both. Who cares?
excellent advice
What about just hiring short term hot young babe maids with benefits for say 2-4 week stints, then on to a new one?
C'mon, who did not click for the title?
ok sherlock
Too hilarious.
😂😂
@@SuperDrJeckyl I didn't 😂
I saw bait, and I clicked
I don't like this idea at all. She agreed to cook and clean to earn income to help support her family, then later on you are putting her in a position where she has to agree to the 'benefits' or she could be fired and her family wouid lose that income. That's just not right. Keep business and pleasure separate.
Yeah I’m with you.
Yes keep it separate go out and get a girlfriend
I agree 100%, foreigners shouldn't exploit vulnerable, disadvantage people.
Absolutely 💯 correct
You are a morally sound person. The Philippines Government should arrest those that exploit these poor women. Disgusting behavior
Looks like the morality police are visiting the channel, they belong back in California
I had an extra bedroom in my apartment in Shanghai. Met a cute college girl, and after 1 week talking with her, we got along, and i invited her to move in. She cooked and cleaned for no money. But anytime i gave her money to get something, i never got change. A dollar here and there did not bother me. It was nice having a cute young lady around... i would do that again.
I am in my 30s so having college age girls around me is the norm
simp ahh 💀
@@Dee-pv8lb "Was she your friend WITH BENEFITS?"
Any tips to lead that life?
~ It is good to be the King.
I had a maid that was very flirty a number of years ago in Manila. She was very flirty and she would wear those house dresses that women wear in the Philippines. She was always naked under them and made sure I could see that. lol
@@ConwayTruckload Did she help your PIPING
@@tigerlanzo8641Wahahahaha
@@tigerlanzo8641 😂😂😂😂
Quit lying
😂😂😂👍👍
Maid with benefits is a real double edge sword. If she is live in, and talking good care of you. It makes it hard to date a normal girl and bring her home. Maid with benefits that does not live with you. Only comes over once a week. This would be better.
man you been in the philippines for so long you already speak broken english lol
Yeah, remember the Seinfeld episode?
I've been here ten years and in the beginning had two different house keeper's at two different locations. Having people in your home is a complete nuisance. It's like having no privacy in your own home. BTW everything happening in your home will be all over the hood. Much easier to wash your own dishes than have a stranger in your home snooping around.
@@MrArcher181 that’s exactly how I feel here in the US. I heard about this concept of aupair where it’s like a live in babysitter. The problem there is that there’s no privacy. I don’t want the baby sitter eating dinner with us and hanging out in the living room with us.
100% agree!!
We have several maids, no way could I have a relationship with any of them, my wife would cut my b.... off!!
@@DewTime Now that is a refreshing point of view on aupairs. It seems you don't understand that aupairs from lets say Europe are there to look after your children and in return they get to see the US and live like a normal person with human rights. It seems that what you are after is a black person shipped for you from Africa to work for your family, make you dinner and work on your cotton fields and sleep in the shed.
That’s the main reason I never got a maid.
Yea I know Aussie guy in PI, he’s got a maid and she’s cleans the house AND cleans his pipes. They’re actually long term arrangement. She’s divorced with grown up kids. and he didn’t sleep around anywhere outside. And she lives with him. What started as a maid, ended up living with him full time. and she’s very happy. And he looks after her for any medical bills or her expenses.
@@raypatson8775 A divorced maid? Strange. I thought divorce is not possible in Philipines...
@@Bigbaloo63 you caught him in his lie. some people enjoy making up stories in youtube comments
cleans his pipes 🤣 lol
I know a bunch of guys that do this in the USA. They all get showered up and put cologne on before the maid comes over to gobble up their mess...
@@Bigbaloo63 actually,
They can live separate lives,
But not be divorce
Good thing I’m too poor for a maid and this will never be an issue. Being poor saves me again.
@@chadr4013 I won't be poor in the Philippines, but I am a cheapskate so I doubt I'll hire a maid there.
@@rwdyeriii I live in the Midwest US, costs are about the same here as there.
@chadr4013 I have found that by acting like you don't have much money works also....
@@rwdyeriii im similar but I think I would hire a maid but only two or three times a month
Being poor really is the way to go you know they say it mo' money mo' problems which tells me no money no problems!
It is highly recommended not to get involved with the help. Many of these women are married or separated, which is the same thing. A live-in maid is going to be extremely expensive as you have to provide living quarters and medical and everything else that comes with that. Also, if you don't like the service, then you have a much more difficult time removing your live-in maid . It's better to have a part-time maid service come in a couple of times a week, and then they move on . These are professional cleaners, and you need to respect them. Of course, if you get a girlfriend, she will obviously not want these women coming into the house, and a woman who is traditional will keep her home in order. If she doesn't, then you can send her down the road and contact the maid service and continue on .
"extremely expensive" is very relative imo. If you're paying 10k a month for a live-in maid, and paying for the extra servings of food for her, it might be $400 a month total. If you're surviving on $1.5k a month, then sure $400 is big chunk of that. If you're getting $4k a month in pension, investments, etc. then it's not much at all. I've had sevearl live-in maids, and never had a problem removing them. Of course, if a person were to get into a relationship with a maid, that's a different story (and something I never did).
The problem with a live in maid is that some get too comfortable. Being their friends or even boyfriend get invited over to your house without your consent. Better just get a part time maid and get services on the side but that needs be negotiated in advance. In phillipines that is very common.
Oh Ya! If they are married, you are so screwed. Going to jail.
You NEVER let ANY woman move in....not so much as a toothbrush.
You are begging for trouble if you do.
Lived with a half dozen women over the years. I can recall the end of each one, but I can't recall "moving in", with any of them. Just woke up one day and realized I had a housemate. And always my damned house. Ever been ordered to leave your own house? If it floats, flies, or fornicates, rent it.
@@bullfrogger1208 lol community hole is just not the same. Maybe I have too much pride..
I went through this in 1988 in Honduras when I was a much younger and much more handsome man teaching in Tegucigalpa. A neighbor (lady) recommended a woman to be my maid. She arranged for us to meet at a cafe, and wow, was this girl beautiful. I'm human, so I had to do it. I hired her on the spot. Of course thing changed pretty quick. She was my girlfriend within a couple of weeks. It was not that bad of a deal. She was okay as a girlfriend. And, of course, in time, we broke up. But if you REALLY want good cleaning, cooking, laundry service, etc. you are better off just hiring an older lady you don't find attractive. That is what I did after that. Now I am married to a Filipina living in Antipolo. My wife will never allow another woman in the house to cook and clean. I understand completely.
you havent trained your wife properly if she wont allow a maid around. learn how to train your wife by watching thairish times feat. tony huge videos
@@SLOC1992 Okay. I'll work on that, Einstein. I'll start today.
@@jonirving5606 Lmao
Having an inhouse maid is a hit and miss. If you're in the province it will be easy to find them. If you live in Metro Manila you need to be wary and screen thoroughly with the interview. Don't hire maid from Metro Manila many are shady.
It gets sticky if you higher a maid who becomes girlfriend or a girlfriend who becomes your maid. I have had a rather awkward experience with this myself and ended up supporting her and three kids for a year or so. I became an ATM to her and her kids. I finally had to break the relationship. She still wants to clean the house for the cash but even that is awkward so I’m trying to discourage that. Looking back she wrangled me into this relationship because she wanted a support system because she had no job. I offered to help her start a business but she always had excuses about why she couldn’t do that. She just wanted me to support her and her three kids. Became very obvious to me. My point is it’s harder here to get out of these situations than it is to get into them. Beware… your wallet and pension attracts these situations and puts you in a vulnerable situation.
"My point is it’s harder here to get out of these situations". That's because you have a heart Robert (which is great). When dealing with women, regardless of nationality, they count on you becoming emotionally invested (or extremely lustful) which they can then use to their advantage. With women & business....I clip the heart-strings the best I can. A relationship is like partnering in a business, we each have responsibilities we must live up to.
When i lived in the PI back in 78 to 80 I had 2 sisters who came in once a week to clean. They were more middle class and you werent getting that without a ring. We kept it business friendly.
If you hire an attractive maid in the PI, chances are pretty good you will sleep with her. She immediately then turns into the girlfriend and you will need a new maid. Happened to me twice. The moral of this story is DO NOT SLEEP WITH THE MAID.
I have a stateside story where the moral is DO NOT SLEEP WITH YOUR TENANTS.
Twice?? LOL, you got yourself a harem.
I am ready to retire. I have a great pension & just got my SS #. But I find it hard to live in the United States even if you're NOT married & have NO kids. I am looking to retire in the Philippines, so my pension & Social Security checks go much further!!!
Same here; i am retired military; 2 pensions and SS; no kids; no wife; packing now heading to Philippines
I've been thinking about the same deal. I live in California and I can't even afford to finance a house in the cheapest cities---and I've made more money in the past 3 years that I've ever made before with my crappy job. Anyway, I know I'd be able to live a good life in the Philippines with my measly pension and SS checks.
My house is for rent in iloilo province .
I'm a poor social worker with a small pension , and will be getting social security in 3 years. I'm starving in the USA it's so expensive ...but in the Dominican Republic living better than my friends that make six figures.
I spent time in the Philippines , Thailand, Vietnam and love SEA.
Getting ready to sell my house in the USA and heading over to SEA full time. The Dominican culture has many positives but always felt SEA is home.
My adult daughter is half Filipino , and lived a short time in CDO. Beautiful culture and people.
You nailed it.
Good video, but incomplete without Part B: Interview with the owner of a Maid Agency discussing "Maid with Benefits" contracted up front rather than backed into accidently. Such a Fig Leaf deal clearly benefits both parties compared to the usual ad hoc "Pay for Play" transactions so common in the Philippines. (Probability that this cannot be readily arranged: Zero.) An unflinching look at prices, options, and arrangements would sharply illuminate How Things Actually Work in Philippines. Insights are so much more valuable than simple reporting of the standard information!
Best argument I have heard yet for moving to the Philippines.
My hooch maid in Korea was a college student. 22 years old , fit, and very pretty. She was very skilled at taking care of all of my domestic needs.
Korea? Did you say fit or flat? 😂
"all" you mean= "all" from nut to butt
What's the saying, don't shit where you eat.
It seems like anything in life... when you try to get too many different uses out of a particular item, you end up with all results being sub-par. Better to have the perfect tool for each job. Hire the maid for her cleaning and cooking skills. Then if you want a little cutie for "other" duties, hire the ideal for that too. Much easier to replace either as required.
The trick seems to be not to fall for the maid's attempts to upgrade herself. A moment of weakness one evening and you will have complicated an otherwise ideal situation. Some guys suggest hiring an older, less attractive maid. The problem there is that any moment of weakness now puts you into an arrangement with a less than desirable female. You WILL wake up the next day with regrets. At least if the maid was a young cutie, you might be tempted to let it ride for a while.
Exactly. Wives/girlfriends often end up providing poor service.
This reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Jerry starts sleeping with his maid. He continues to pay her for being a maid, but once they start sleeping together, she stops cleaning… 🤣
EGYPT has the SAME thing ~ Go through a catalogue & choose the preferred photo. You can have her by the week & she will do everything/anything. Yes, there are 2 chicks at a 50% discount based on your chosen photos & specifications.
Do you get locked up like in the Philippines, if they are married and did not know?
@@CosmopolitanFools where in Egypt
egypt????? are you serious?
Thx Gio.
I feel that a maid with benefits could be a very slippery slope.
Personally, I prefer to do my own cooking and household chores, at least while I'm still able to.
Yeah, I can't see the value add in it. What possible errands and chores are that time consuming for a single bloke? Cooking for 1? Filipino food isn't that crash hot anyway. I'd rather do everything myself than having some fluff girl hanging about with designs on my stuff.
"Wanted! House Maid who specializes in cleaning pipes"! Hahaha!
Man up when you get her pregnant!
😂😂😂
'Talented applicants encouraged'..........
The only reasonably safe way to hire any inside help is via family connections where the family doing the introduction is in good standing & reputation. You have to be completely straight up with them about what you want- they are vouching for the help & for your character.
If you have a live-in maid; you could also be expected to pay their PhilHealth and SSI . I believe this is a requirement by law, but not required by most maids.
Got to be fair and pay the extra sss plus other things.
In my village the maids earm 10 to 15k a month
Come to the U.K., you have a wife with no benefits
Gio, you and Filipna Pea are a LIFE SAVER!!!! I'm from Flint, Michigan (Home of General Motors). And I'm moving to Cebu City in September. I'm 54 and was wondering how to find a Maid/Assistant to help me learn the city and have someone to talk with. I'm seeking a wife, and I need a maid to help me do the chores, cleaning and cooking. Your Podcast is EXCELLENT!!!! FACEBOOK Marketplace and seeking a cashier at the mall, is a brilliant idea on how to scout! Thanks!
You're probably going to find a lot more candidates than you need.
paying bills and waiting in long is another requirement you should suggest she do.
The lower cost of living does make hiring people to assist you easier. The added benefit is something single ladies use to hook and reel in a rich foreigner. Back when the US had several 1000 military members stationed in the Philippines just about every single male hired a live-in maid. Many men married their maid before leaving the country.
Oh yeah a maid with benefits 😊
Secretary with benefits is better.
@@shim6057 Indeed.
To be honest, a maid with benefits seems to be much cheaper than a girlfriend, though.😂
You know what makes life most affordable?
1. Being able to do your own gardening.
2. Cooking your own food.
3. Cleaning your own home.
$5 to $10 eventually adds up. Maybe you think, but it is just 5, or 10 dollars well money is still money. Another amount you gave was $120, so $120 can add up faster than $5 to $10.
Regarding myself I cook, and clean, and I been learning how to do gardening as well. There are other things I learned how to do besides what I said!
Spending money is easy to do, but saving money can be difficult. People have gone broke, and in debt with the choices they made! If you do not think about saving money then maybe you could eventually go broke, or in debt.
I assume you knew what the pros, and cons were before going to the Philippines. Not everyone thinks only about the services a country has to offer new residents. There is more to consider when relocating to a different country!
I depends on your income. If you make $200 / hour, it makes a lot of sense to pay someone $20 / hour to do those chores for you. Also, the greater your income the bigger your home and the more difficult it is to keep clean.
Saving money is not always a savings. Time is money. So it depends on how much your time is worth. Spending the little time you have off from work with your kids instead of cleaning has a value.
120 USD a month? I spent that in a week of groceries in Norway, in a slow week. Then again, there is Manilla for the rich and the Philippines for everyone else, which is poverty and misery. The female driver warning is a real thing though. Most get their license in the Philippines without ever driving once. And women are indeed particularly bad at it. I remember teaching one friend how to drive in Norway and SHE HAD A LICENSE.
If you end up with scammers you'll be charged with rape and then you'll be jailed and forced to settle with thousands of dollars.
I have a maid with benefits, I call her my wife
I have that too 😂
@@brocklanders6011 those "benefits" usually come with at least some "detriments"
Rent, don't buy
It is like that almost anywhere. In Nicaragua i had a full time housekeeper for $300 and a garden guy for $250. It made life so easy
I think this was a Jerry Seinfeld episode.
Of course his maid looked like a model.
For me a twice a week cleaning and going to the market for vegetables for me to cook is adequate.
Do not poop where you eat. Separate practitioners for these "services" is infinitely more intelligent.
Most middle class family have 2 maids in their household. One do the cleaning and the other one do the cooking. They also usually have a driver.
@@supermelville7838 who are you kidding?
@@supermelville7838 that’s Uber rich, not middle class lol.
I had a maid with benefits in Colombia
How much you paid for that
ye im curious im considering moving there cause it turns out foreigners can't buy property which sux moose balls can only rent or lease unless you know a phiippino that can more or less own it for you, but nah that's a solid no bueno from me im not busting my ass so someone else can own the property that i bought and more then likely will build myself in terms of a home
Gio, thanks for all the good information. Your channel is probably the most current and substantive Ph info channel I have seen so far... Keep up the good work
Wow, thanks!
I know it feels good and nice to pay more but paying out of band is how you cause inflation and skew expectations. Pay well well but damn near double the going rate actually becomes a negative in the long run
So what the guy is saying is that if you move one in with you, she will commence doing less and less until she's basically doing nothing? So essentially you'll have what you ran away from in Western Society. So the lesson is don't ever give a woman the key to your house or your heart... anywhere.
Great education in the comments, thank you ❤
Hmmmmm. My mind is going over the possibilities.
In what other ways is the Philippines like a time machine of what was enjoyable for men in the west.
I stayed in San Carlos City for six months. I paid about 500 pesos for a one time cleaning. About the same for a massage. If you include cooking and shopping(errands), 8000 pesos is a great deal for a month.
Did you rent a house or a condo during your stay in San Carlos City? How did you find the maid? Facebook Marketplace?
How about a wife that shops, cooks, cleans, does laundry, raises your kids. Drives your lazy butt around, nurses your sick body to health, spends your income.
I know a scenario where a house was broken in Bagiou and the only person who knew some private information was the maid. 🤔
Merry maid isn’t showing up for less than $120
There's a Seinfeld episode where he starts to sleep with his maid and she stops cleaning but he's still paying her. Then Kramer points out that Jerry is actually a john. Hilarious.
I truly believe this is the future of dating, especially for successful guys and girls wanting a traditional relationship. As you get to know each other far more intimately without sex being involved. If there was similar vetting for dating, as if you would marry her long term, then would work great.
My college bff has been retired in PI for the last 6 years. He has had part-time maids with benes for the past 5. He is on his third maid and he has no intentions of changing. She comes twice a week for most of each day and does all the cleaning, cooking, laundry, shopping, bill paying and errands. And, from time to time a little adult fun. he claims that his arrangement is very common among ex-pats.
I was shocked to hear that I could have a maid, cook/servant in the Philippines. Here I am this middle class guy married empty nester who grew up poor in Hawaii. It is a shock to your system to even consider having a servant.
I thought I was listening to Cleveland Brown. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I saw that new female driver sticker on a car here in Cebu a few days ago, I couldn't believe but couldn't get a picture in time.
That sign should he universal here in the Philippines, considering almost all licenses are acquired by just paying, no student driving no test no nothing. You should do a Vlog about this Gio.
So in PH they also acquire drivings licenses by just buying one? Cool! Makes life much easier, lol.
I have a bunch of pics of those New Lady Driver stickers. . Seems likes its only a Cebu thing. You donT see those in Manila...Its so funny. My wife said its because Cebuano drivers are chivalrous and will be kind and patient if they know its lady driver.
Hey Gio…good topic …just like that old Seinfeld episode lol… and both maid and benefits can be lost…personally I’m fortunate to have all of those in my asawa …she would never let me hire anyone to do all those things…but she does cost me a bit more of which I’m glad to do coz we are best friends too
Agreed- it does sound like the Seinfeld episode.
I Love this type of Videos which actually speaks for Men Finally.
I am from Chennai in India. Since west wave is also spreading here in India, I might also end up in Philippines soon. Passport is already ready ya😅.
Another great video GIO 🎉
Thank you 😁
Reekay did a video on living in maid . Things could get ugly when you move desperate , poor and uneducated people in your house , if they steal from you and you accuse them , they’ll see that as what’s the problem foreigner sir Gio can afford it.
Oh man I just moved to a new city in China, Dalian. And while unpacking the truck, carrying crates into my apartment, the two crates with clothes were emptied out. My Tshirts and shorts gone and who knows what else. The old woman didn't take my ice wine or champagne in the crates, just took the clothes, all my white Tshirts, and my Dior Sauvage Parfum bottle. This week I found an apartment in a different neighbourhood and moved. The local property management just said oh those were rag pickers..... so weird, why take my 10 identical white Tshirts.
@@hufficag Now some rag picker smells like Johnny Depp.
If you going to live here, stop thinking what things cost in the US as a barometer for local value.
"Attractive Maid Wanted : Age 18 - 18-1/2"
That's why you keep the 2 things totaly separate. No confusion, no heart burn/hurt feelings, less of any legal problems or accusations. And most important if one leaves the other can fill in, no seriously, you only need to find one agajn not both. I'm betting a woman trying to be a "Good"< girlfriend, btw, sterotypically also know for Jealousy, would be trying to pressure the Maid out of the picture, however she could, like cleaning so much a maid is not needed.
Amazing hard working people. I hired one maid to cook, clean, wash my clothes,... AMAZING PEOPLE.
I have brother in law Do work couple months a year, He brings sister in law, I loved it, She was our maid, cook, House keeper, This is the second year now, They will be back next year as well, I always give them nice bonus right before Christmas to help them and pay for traveling,
I would never hire a maid with benifit’s. Thats That’s Trouble
Having a maid in the Philippines who cooks, grocery shops, cleans, and massages for $160 per month....and maybe the possibility of benefits?? Why ever get married in the West?? This is way more practical.
hahahahahaaaa
So basically what he is saying is that once they become your girl friend then they turn into a western woman and think they have to do nothing. If that happens then just get you another maid and see how she acts. Then you can tell her well you not my maid anymore so I got another maid who does everything and more. Its true they will bend a knee to their boss but not their man. Crazy
If you got hurt in the West? Live in America for example? West coast?
Do yourself a favor and get to S.E.A. and spend the time recuperating there.
Man, the massages alone for your feet after surgery or physical therapy is worth it alone.
You basically hired a personal assistant got $160 a month.
That's FANTASTIC! There is a reason why so many go to SEA to get better and why they have so many top tier hospitals there.
The thing is, many of us men can afford it?
But then what are we going to put away for savings as that's the big question.
Bottom line?
My choice on where I go Expat is not based on how nice the place is, but how fast I can go there and recuperate for the next year or so while I Recover from Surgery and the like.
With telehealth? You can still see your Dr. Back in the states thanks to the Coooof making that possible.
So if you want to get well? Seem like SEA is the place to get that done.
Not sure about other things like Hair implants and the like. Heard turkey is the best for that, with South Korea being the best for Plastic Surgery.
Our cousin as stationed in the PI back in the early 80s. His Marine girlfriend found out he was getting busy with his PI maid and she tried to gut him like a fish. The Marine girlfriend was tried and convicted of attempted murder. Our cousin was medically retired...The knife wound destroyed an important internal organ. Not worth it... He should have stuck with the youth PI lady.
Whatever you are expecting, making it clear to her. She may or may not like you do can refuse or else ask for a salary according.
The problem is when you have a good maid, you lose interest in getting a gf/wife.
That's what I'm talking about, SHE DOES IT ALL😊
If you are going to go the Maid with benefits route I suggest that mention that you might be interested in that with her 1st, purely as a financial arrangement. If she agrees you negotiate a price up front - so that its clear that it's just a financial arrangement; and if she is good in bed tip her well. If or when you get her pregnant there will be a lot of other issues involved (and the longer it goes on the more likely its a when): Be very sure that you understand them up front. Many Philippine woman are not very big on birth control - and they absolutely will allow you to have unprotected sex with them once you get started.
The other alternative is just to keep things separate and hire someone just for sex if you don't want to get into the relationship dating game. There are plenty of options for that as well.
You did good young lady don’t ever cut yourself short again.
Lol iv just realized after reading comments , most people have no idea of their powers,needs are real ,wants are toys, that you protect,stands beside you, its a remembering, lol
Not only that, but the hiring bulletins in the newspaper and elsewhere often specify that the applicant have light colored skin, have a certain religion, be single, and have a certain height.
Hi Gio, I have a question to your video! Where is that place? :) Is that Dumaguete?!
Yes, Dumaguete. The Henry Resort
Having a maid with benefits is a very bad idea! Don’t do it!! You will bitterly regret it!
I've got a question for you. I've driven around Luzon & I've been in the some of the islands in the Visaya Region & I've driven the norther half of Cebu & I've been ti some of the islands southwest of Manila, & in Batangas Prov & all around, even in Mindanao. So, here's the question, where are you filming your vids? That is, it looks pretty nice in the background & I wanted to know if it's a resort you're in or a compound or exactly what? I know you're not in the Forbes City enclave of MNL, but the reason I'm asking is that it looks -VERY- clean where you are, by pinoy standards.
"...A man needs a maid..." -Neil Young, 1972.
Wow a near carbon copy of Dear Annie in the Philippines thumbnail from about 6 months ago.
Both great videos. ❤
Are the prices you mentioned valid in major cities or in rural areas?
Most areas
This sounds exactly like the plot of a Seinfeld episode 😂😂😂😂
Can you share about Your income flow. People know the costs. It’s the Income that you acquire that makes more sense to be sharing💯🍻
Two Rules: Don't play at work. Don't mess with the help.
Two young maids at the complex soon learned they could make more money giving four hand massages than cleaning. It was win win win.
EXCELENT VIDEO.
I grew up with maids on my side that does everything. One of them got my neighbor pregnant. That was back in late 70's and early 80"s.
what city are you ? where you are talking about ?
it will be vastly different based on the area in the Philippines
Many prominent family members in Hong Kong often engage in sexual intercourse with their Filipino maids. When the maids become pregnant, these families feel a deep sense of shame, as many in Hong Kong's Chinese community view Filipinos as second-class citizens. As a result, they frequently pay off the maids to silence them and send them home to deal with the situation.