The deer’s are hard to beat. We’re running two of them one has a progressive linked thumb on it but ya gotta watch ur self with that with a 42 inch bucket on it it’s gets a little lite. Chris i would say the Deer was probably on a pipeline crew with all the guards that’s on and would say it had a padding attachment on it
The thumb, would have made me lean towards the first excavator, but the apparent smoothness and power of the Deere plus the aux hydraulics made it a good potential candidate, be interesting to see if the former client will go with your recommendation, thanks for the video sir.
@@randywilson6869 That's something I often wonder about Mr Bealy Good Farms, because he must have had hundreds of thousands of dollars work done by Chris. I know he is developing his land and building properties, but it doesn't seem like the return on that would pay back his investment in Chris' time.
Mike showed us the 210 has infinite adjustments for swing and scoop in the computer among other adjustments --- The deere has had a major respray job seeing all the overspray when he opened the panel
Imagine if Mike came down to help you evaluate the machines , he would have it up on its side ,both sideways and back and front ! The Hindi seems refined ,but tippy , probably has good power ? The JD ,they seem to be very Agricultural in how they look ,and sound ,and noticed that the engine died off when digging ,then revving up somewhat when no load on the hydraulics,maybe it's a JD thing . Big question must be the Back up service and parts support from the two brands . Dollar wise must play an important role in going with a used machine ,that's the owners decision. Thanks for doing the test and showing us . Fuel rates would be interesting,and Mike is big on those figures,the 210 maybe set up to achieve better fuel use rather than outright speed ,and it seems to handle the extreme things that Mike throws at it 😊
Hyundai all day long ,better warranty.That Deer sounded like it was working hard doing that simple little task ,fitting a bigger bucket shouldn't be a problem on the Hyundai ,they are nice to operate smooth and fast
We have a hyundai 220 rented for the last 3 months it was new when dropped off I was the first in but that machine is very slow and jumps alot not anyone of us guys like it no matter how the settings are placed
Deere's (Hitachi) do have a built in quick coupler system though. Under the left arm rest there's a switch you flip and then a rocker in front that you hold down to open or close, still have to press the foot pedal while holding the rocker to open or close it though. But that's at least how all EU spec Hitachi's are setup from factory
Chris owned an Hitachi before he got his first 220 Volvo. Might have to go back a few years to see videos of it. Not sure how it compares to the EU models but he has at least owned one.
@@LatitudeSky I know about that machine actually, didn't have a coupler though and it's the old model, think they did it this way since the -4 or -5 series
What is funny is that I just went 3 year's back and watched you take delivery of Uncle John's Volvo 160, where you crawled into house lot and fought with a couple of the first big tree's.
I sell welding supplies for a living. I had a customer asking about stick wear issues. I asked if they were sweeping, he said yes. I said that it's likely worn from excessive sweeping, they use it in a concrete crushing plant. From your videos I have learned a lot about operating with never having been in the pilot house.
Hello Chris, thanks for this comparison video. You are used to operating an AMI equipped machine with a progressive thumb and bucket so anything else would feel unnatural. Neither machine had that and both needed a heavier counterweight to slow down the tippy feeling to compete with what you have. It's intended for farm use and I'd guess wide grousers would be very important. I guess I'd have gone with the Hyundai with an AMI bucket with wider grousers.
@@bruces2665 Yes, but the question then would be how these two compare in price. If the Hyundai is cheaper and with the replacement bucket and grousers stays near the Deere on price, I think the Hyundai might be worthwhile. It's hard to say from a video but it looked a bit smoother than the Deere.
My buddies Hyundai 60 has that same big pin off the side of the bucket also. Makes no sense to me either!! It is just a keeper rod or what ever they call it. To me, it would just get in the way.
Something we all are not considering is ,the owner to be ,will he find the right fit with either machine ,Chris can make any machine work well through experience!
Never can go wrong with a Deere. You can always get parts and service. You usually spend more for Deere, but you also get more for resale when you trade up. Hyundai is a good machine, but I do not think it will hold up as long as a Deere. Nor do I think that it will hold a resale valve like the Deere. But that is just my opinion. The only things that would make that Deere better. 36" pads, tinted windows, and your bucket and thumb system, Chris.
We have a 2019 JD160G with a thumb here on the farm now. It's a good machinen runs smooth and low hours. We used to have an 1989 215clc Cat but he wanted to update, I miss my 🐈!!!
You didn't mention it, but is the Deere narrower? Or is the cab larger since the tracks appear to be completely under the cab? Smart man for calling the best to come and evaluate potential machines. Thanks for sharing this, Chris. Like to see what it is you are looking for.
The JD has a larger guard rail/step along the bottom of the cab adding to the width, it's another feature meant to protect the side of the machine more and can also be pretty handy as somewhere to stand when you're fueling or topping off hydraulic oil
Well my guess was wrong in the one you picked ! 😬 knowing the way some farmers run their machines the added protectors on the Deere will be really handy 😂😂😂
Both machines would work for a homeowner maybe a medium contractor but the thumb would be handy .I guess what it comes down to is price and if there's a dealer network in the area
@@nickchannel5364 In Ohio. it would literally be a 5 minute walk down the hill to the JD industrial dealer. Going back up the hill, not quite so little time. The Hyundai, 90 minutes drive or 150 minute drive. So the JD would easily win.
I'm biased towards Hyundai and Volvo after watching Letsdig and Dirt Perfect. The Volvos are exceptional machines and I'm still checking out the almost new Hyundai.
The Hyundai wasn't a very stable platform. It looked pretty tippy to me. I really don't think it would have handled a bigger bucket very well. The Deere looks like it's just a better built machine. Have a good one Chris,take care!!!❤😊
I am no operator of them so my opinions are just my thoughts as I have never been in an excavator. It all depends on price and what all the intended use is. Can they lift the same amount? Will one do it better. We all know being on a farm lifting will happen. Digging up a tree and picking up a big root mass. Pros and cons to all equipment. I like both under Chris control. He and DP both are very skilled operators.
You appear to be much smoother operating the JD, but both seem to be good machines. Good that he has an expert to get your opinion after trying them out.
You can go through the monitor and get the codes as well as clear them if you have issues. Most all deere dealers i deal with will give you whatever info you need to repair a problem.
Yes and it's unfortunate the route they have taken. I did my apprenticeship in a small African country with a large sugar producing concern and John Deere was the boss machine back then. We had a very large fleet and used twenty 4440s for haulage. The introduction of complicated electronics has only made a complicated machine even more complex.
I don't own a deere but as far as the repair policies. every company is the same. it's been that way with vehicles for a very long time. anything under warranty can be declined if you worked on it yourself and they can't determine if you caused the damage. but i was told they would work with the customers on certain things but if you tear the motor or pumps apart, you own that broken shit. lol
@@naterussell6025...Yup. The workshop where I worked in the early eighties was closed down and it employed around 120 people. The work is now done by the OEM.
I would prefer the most reliable and best manufacturer backup machine. Deere seems poor with parts and their engines don't seem to up to much. I would go with your recommendation.
I do prefer Hitachi/Deere machines good dealer support where I live. The company I worked for had a 210 Hindu it was okay bit ticky tacky it didn't give me the fizz. Company switched to Kobelco I liked them decent power smooth to operate. Between the 2 machines in the video I would take the Deere put a progressive thumb on it.
Nice Video reminds me of the old days when machines like O&K RH5, Akerman H7, Liebherr R900 or R902 and same class machines from Komatsu and Poclain where arround, nowadays that machine class is dead here, there are only short radius machines.
I have been a cat guy my entire career , now i have spent the last year and a half in a john deere 290glc and let me tell you if that john deere is small but it is one impressive machine . I like kamatsu and link belt and volvo but my top track excavator is cat/ john deere and for rubber tire excavator i got to go volvo !!!
Yeah, I'd have to go with your pick Chris !! You run umm for a living, no better person to to ask which would be better, than you... Great as always, Have a Great Evening, And, On too the Next !!
Knowing what I know, the Hyundai with a thumb is more appealing. The extra guards built onto the Deere tell me, before repainting, it got more than a few hard hours on it. The guards also told me the operator knew what he was getting into and took precautions beforehand. As a comparison, would you buy a Cessna 402 (heavy twin engine airplane) with 15,000 hours on it, or the same airplane with 2,000 hours? The latter was likely a "Hangar Queen," while the former flew all day, every day. I'd take the high-hour airplane ANY DAY! I go with Chris on this... Buy the Deer and add a thumb..........
Having run cat, Deere, Hyundai, Volvo, and komatsu in around the same weight classes... Deere is great on a rental. Cat is best on reliability from my experience. The other brands are a good value but have no local support. Across the board I just hate deere equipment as we do most of our own maintenance. Cat makes that easier as our local non cat parts house can pretty much get anything we need
Deere builds a darn good machine. This one definitely needs a progressive thumb. I would choose the Deere for a number of reasons. Resale being a consideration
I'm the first to admit - I wouldn't really know. If LetsDig18 suggests the John Deere then it must have been the better machine for the customer's requirements.
Hey Chris !! Just Guessing ,,but think the ""DEERE "" had a grapple on it instead of a thumb ??? Either way ,, yes,, the ""Deere "" gets the vote this time around !! 🤔🙄👍👍👍👍👍
The Comparison Hyundai 160 A and Deere 160 G . Of the first Look and by the Work. I to find the Deere 160 G is the Solid Machine. By the Work the Arm is low and stroke not Metal on Metal. What the Performance deccaration??? Can I not say, You. The best Driver to know more! 🤔
Your working with AMI for the design elements that you prefer would work well on the John Deere and probably as well for the Hyundai. I would definitely lean toward the Deere with AMI thumb and progressive link. That said, the Hyundai would serve very nicely. Semi tough choice. Mainly personal preference. He just needs to run each one for himself.
Chris Volvos have progressive link thumbs, they are hinged off the thumb cylinder and have a greater range of motion compared to a pin on thumb. Say you get 180 degrees of rotation out of a pin on thumb set up…he’s getting like 270 degrees of rotation out of the progressive link set up…that’s the main difference…most people would prefer a progressive link, it just comes down to how much money you want to spend on it.
The main thing you need to know is that progressive link has more range of motion and so it can close more, if you're trying to pick something up with a non-progressive thumb it has to be farther away from the machine to fully close the thumb, otherwise the angle of the stick doesn't let the thumb extend far enough to meet the bucket since the thumb cylinder isn't long enough. Progressive gets around this by basically adding extra hinge points, it can grab things much closer to the machine because it has more range of motion.
Deere erm... Hitachi makes a pretty good machine (even if Deere paints them a funny color) and its probably smoother then the Hyun die, better resale value too.
I’m so glad you picked the Deere. Exactly the one I would have chose before you even finished the demo. Is there not a Volvo dealer near by? Or was there not a 160 available.
I was surprised with your choice. I guess since we couldnt feel how they ran, we can only go with your opinion. You are such a neat freak, in a good way, that i was wondering if all the panel damage and scratches on the Hindi hurt its chances in this? Even the bigger bucket on the Deere made you feel better about it maybe.
Hey Chris another great Video is it possible on the thumb that the hydraulics on it have Air in the line cause it to react slow kinda odd while machine runs quick boom and Stick but thumb don’t just askin thanks again 👍👍👍👍
That super slow non-progressive thumb would drive me crazy..I’d rather have a machine with no thumb letting me spend the money on a better performing unit….Chris you were being nice , you waited on that thumb the entire time you ran the Hyundai.
The Hyundai are top quality machines with more power than most, we run two of them, one has over 13000 hours on it with hard work pushing big trees and working with rocks and has not missed a beat.
neither one are bad machines… probably both better than that 140 mikey had for a while.. Hell, Mikey might even like both over his 120.. (and we know he LOVES that baby).. but it’s also shows it age… that thing probably has so many hours even it don’t know anymore.
Yes a 210 is stronger…it’s in a bigger class, everything is bigger, more powerful and heavier… can only compare machines in the same weight class to notice differences between functions.
Nice to have one of the best guys to stop by and give you a expert opinion. Id say what Chris says is gold.
hyundai would have been my pick personaly... getting a new bucket and adjusting the flow to the thumb would have been just the ticket..
The deer’s are hard to beat. We’re running two of them one has a progressive linked thumb on it but ya gotta watch ur self with that with a 42 inch bucket on it it’s gets a little lite. Chris i would say the Deer was probably on a pipeline crew with all the guards that’s on and would say it had a padding attachment on it
The thumb, would have made me lean towards the first excavator, but the apparent smoothness and power of the Deere plus the aux hydraulics made it a good potential candidate, be interesting to see if the former client will go with your recommendation, thanks for the video sir.
I bet he will or he wouldn’t have asked for is opinion. I wonder what all that guy does for a living because most farmers don’t spend like this guy
@@randywilson6869 That's something I often wonder about Mr Bealy Good Farms, because he must have had hundreds of thousands of dollars work done by Chris. I know he is developing his land and building properties, but it doesn't seem like the return on that would pay back his investment in Chris' time.
Mike showed us the 210 has infinite adjustments for swing and scoop in the computer among other adjustments --- The deere has had a major respray job seeing all the overspray when he opened the panel
Imagine if Mike came down to help you evaluate the machines , he would have it up on its side ,both sideways and back and front !
The Hindi seems refined ,but tippy , probably has good power ?
The JD ,they seem to be very Agricultural in how they look ,and sound ,and noticed that the engine died off when digging ,then revving up somewhat when no load on the hydraulics,maybe it's a JD thing .
Big question must be the Back up service and parts support from the two brands .
Dollar wise must play an important role in going with a used machine ,that's the owners decision.
Thanks for doing the test and showing us .
Fuel rates would be interesting,and Mike is big on those figures,the 210 maybe set up to achieve better fuel use rather than outright speed ,and it seems to handle the extreme things that Mike throws at it 😊
Hyundai all day long ,better warranty.That Deer sounded like it was working hard doing that simple little task ,fitting a bigger bucket shouldn't be a problem on the Hyundai ,they are nice to operate smooth and fast
We have a hyundai 220 rented for the last 3 months it was new when dropped off I was the first in but that machine is very slow and jumps alot not anyone of us guys like it no matter how the settings are placed
Nice to see some other machines!
Deere's (Hitachi) do have a built in quick coupler system though. Under the left arm rest there's a switch you flip and then a rocker in front that you hold down to open or close, still have to press the foot pedal while holding the rocker to open or close it though. But that's at least how all EU spec Hitachi's are setup from factory
Chris owned an Hitachi before he got his first 220 Volvo. Might have to go back a few years to see videos of it. Not sure how it compares to the EU models but he has at least owned one.
@@LatitudeSky I know about that machine actually, didn't have a coupler though and it's the old model, think they did it this way since the -4 or -5 series
Evening all from the UK. Thank you once again Chris for all the videos. 👍🇬🇧👍
Go with it looks good to me
From what I heard people here in Western Australia love those Hyundais see them everywhere they improved their quality
What is funny is that I just went 3 year's back and watched you take delivery of Uncle John's Volvo 160, where you crawled into house lot and fought with a couple of the first big tree's.
That was a great video👍🏽
I sell welding supplies for a living. I had a customer asking about stick wear issues. I asked if they were sweeping, he said yes. I said that it's likely worn from excessive sweeping, they use it in a concrete crushing plant.
From your videos I have learned a lot about operating with never having been in the pilot house.
Hello Chris, thanks for this comparison video. You are used to operating an AMI equipped machine with a progressive thumb and bucket so anything else would feel unnatural. Neither machine had that and both needed a heavier counterweight to slow down the tippy feeling to compete with what you have. It's intended for farm use and I'd guess wide grousers would be very important. I guess I'd have gone with the Hyundai with an AMI bucket with wider grousers.
big cost to swap the bucket/thumb and grousers
@@bruces2665 Yes, but the question then would be how these two compare in price. If the Hyundai is cheaper and with the replacement bucket and grousers stays near the Deere on price, I think the Hyundai might be worthwhile. It's hard to say from a video but it looked a bit smoother than the Deere.
My buddies Hyundai 60 has that same big pin off the side of the bucket also. Makes no sense to me either!! It is just a keeper rod or what ever they call it. To me, it would just get in the way.
Something we all are not considering is ,the owner to be ,will he find the right fit with either machine ,Chris can make any machine work well through experience!
Never can go wrong with a Deere. You can always get parts and service. You usually spend more for Deere, but you also get more for resale when you trade up. Hyundai is a good machine, but I do not think it will hold up as long as a Deere. Nor do I think that it will hold a resale valve like the Deere. But that is just my opinion. The only things that would make that Deere better. 36" pads, tinted windows, and your bucket and thumb system, Chris.
There sure are a lot of knowledgeable people in the comments. Impressive viewers. It proves the quality of your content. Well done.👍👍
We have a 2019 JD160G with a thumb here on the farm now. It's a good machinen runs smooth and low hours. We used to have an 1989 215clc Cat but he wanted to update, I miss my 🐈!!!
I liked the longer stick and bush guards but it would be a lot easier to put a 42in bucket on than a thumb...
You didn't mention it, but is the Deere narrower? Or is the cab larger since the tracks appear to be completely under the cab? Smart man for calling the best to come and evaluate potential machines. Thanks for sharing this, Chris. Like to see what it is you are looking for.
The JD has a larger guard rail/step along the bottom of the cab adding to the width, it's another feature meant to protect the side of the machine more and can also be pretty handy as somewhere to stand when you're fueling or topping off hydraulic oil
John Deere 160 is right under overside load. So legally you don’t need a permit to haul it. I’m guessing both machines are
Nice shot at Mike!!!
Well my guess was wrong in the one you picked ! 😬 knowing the way some farmers run their machines the added protectors on the Deere will be really handy 😂😂😂
Gold on that for sure, thump f-(:
16 days up to Halloween! Interesting to see a Hyundai and a Deere excavator you operating.
The JD sprockets are hooked. They seem to have more wear than the tracks.
I would consider engine manufacturer, nearest dealer support for parts and service as well as any warranty remaining.
Both machines would work for a homeowner maybe a medium contractor but the thumb would be handy .I guess what it comes down to is price and if there's a dealer network in the area
The parts for the Deere are closer and more common I think.
@@nickchannel5364 In Ohio. it would literally be a 5 minute walk down the hill to the JD industrial dealer. Going back up the hill, not quite so little time. The Hyundai, 90 minutes drive or 150 minute drive. So the JD would easily win.
I'm biased towards Hyundai and Volvo after watching Letsdig and Dirt Perfect. The Volvos are exceptional machines and I'm still checking out the almost new Hyundai.
lots of experience talking there, I just love watching you work regardless of what you are operating 😊
The Hyundai wasn't a very stable platform. It looked pretty tippy to me. I really don't think it would have handled a bigger bucket very well. The Deere looks like it's just a better built machine. Have a good one Chris,take care!!!❤😊
That’s what I say too
Could the narrower tracks have made a difference in the tippiness, or is it a function of counterweight vs boom length and size of bucket?
He had the carriage perpendicular when it was tipping with a full bucket extended I believe, not sure if he tested the Deere like that in the video
Not a bad machine Chris 😉👌🏼
I am no operator of them so my opinions are just my thoughts as I have never been in an excavator. It all depends on price and what all the intended use is. Can they lift the same amount? Will one do it better. We all know being on a farm lifting will happen. Digging up a tree and picking up a big root mass. Pros and cons to all equipment. I like both under Chris control. He and DP both are very skilled operators.
You appear to be much smoother operating the JD, but both seem to be good machines. Good that he has an expert to get your opinion after trying them out.
The issue with JD is their repair policy.
Until that's changed, I'd go elsewhere as the costs can be considerable.
You can go through the monitor and get the codes as well as clear them if you have issues. Most all deere dealers i deal with will give you whatever info you need to repair a problem.
Yes and it's unfortunate the route they have taken. I did my apprenticeship in a small African country with a large sugar producing concern and John Deere was the boss machine back then. We had a very large fleet and used twenty 4440s for haulage.
The introduction of complicated electronics has only made a complicated machine even more complex.
I don't own a deere but as far as the repair policies. every company is the same. it's been that way with vehicles for a very long time. anything under warranty can be declined if you worked on it yourself and they can't determine if you caused the damage. but i was told they would work with the customers on certain things but if you tear the motor or pumps apart, you own that broken shit. lol
@@naterussell6025...Yup. The workshop where I worked in the early eighties was closed down and it employed around 120 people. The work is now done by the OEM.
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Just another job for Chris. You are a great friend. Thanks for the video.
I don't always agree, but in this case, I think you made the right choice. Add a thumb, of course.
Time for a letsdig18 AMI progressive thumb on either machine
Well I see what you can add to the business is equipment consulting .
Both good machines. Those side guards probably make that machine over width. Not helpful if you move it a lot.
I would prefer the most reliable and best manufacturer backup machine. Deere seems poor with parts and their engines don't seem to up to much. I would go with your recommendation.
I do prefer Hitachi/Deere machines good dealer support where I live. The company I worked for had a 210 Hindu it was okay bit ticky tacky it didn't give me the fizz. Company switched to Kobelco I liked them decent power smooth to operate. Between the 2 machines in the video I would take the Deere put a progressive thumb on it.
Looking at the counterweight, did DP run this? 😉
My guess was the other machine you would pick. The guards on the Deere is nice.
I wonder if Deere CE has the same policy as Deere AG where only Deere service can do diagnostics? Solidarity with farmers!
Nice Video reminds me of the old days when machines like O&K RH5, Akerman H7, Liebherr R900 or R902 and same class machines from Komatsu and Poclain where arround, nowadays that machine class is dead here, there are only short radius machines.
I have been a cat guy my entire career , now i have spent the last year and a half in a john deere 290glc and let me tell you if that john deere is small but it is one impressive machine . I like kamatsu and link belt and volvo but my top track excavator is cat/ john deere and for rubber tire excavator i got to go volvo !!!
Yeah, I'd have to go with your pick Chris !! You run umm for a living, no better person to to ask which would be better, than you... Great as always, Have a Great Evening, And, On too the Next !!
Knowing what I know, the Hyundai with a thumb is more appealing. The extra guards built onto the Deere tell me, before repainting, it got more than a few hard hours on it. The guards also told me the operator knew what he was getting into and took precautions beforehand. As a comparison, would you buy a Cessna 402 (heavy twin engine airplane) with 15,000 hours on it, or the same airplane with 2,000 hours? The latter was likely a "Hangar Queen," while the former flew all day, every day. I'd take the high-hour airplane ANY DAY! I go with Chris on this... Buy the Deer and add a thumb..........
The Deere needs an LD18 thumb. Atleast a progressive link thumb from somewhere. An excavator without a thumb is like a pickup truck with no bed.
Whichever has the best air conditioner for sure.
Having run cat, Deere, Hyundai, Volvo, and komatsu in around the same weight classes... Deere is great on a rental. Cat is best on reliability from my experience. The other brands are a good value but have no local support. Across the board I just hate deere equipment as we do most of our own maintenance. Cat makes that easier as our local non cat parts house can pretty much get anything we need
Couldn’t find a better test driver than Chris. 😊
I used to work in the deere excavator factory in kernersville so I’m partial lol
Deere builds a darn good machine. This one definitely needs a progressive thumb. I would choose the Deere for a number of reasons. Resale being a consideration
Once again, your reputation preceeds you. With the years you have with excavators you would know the good and bad of most all of them.
Cool video! Good demonstrations. BTW... love my Hyundai Palisade Limited!
I have a Deere 160G. They guys that use it said it's one of there favorite machines.
I think I would want the one with the thumb.
The Hyundai might be faster than Mike's but Mike has his speed customized. It runs at the speed he prefers. Chris tends to run at a faster speed.
He’s used to that Volvo whipping and ripping everything super fast.
I'm the first to admit - I wouldn't really know. If LetsDig18 suggests the John Deere then it must have been the better machine for the customer's requirements.
The new AMI bucket with built in thumb would be nice on that deere
Hey Chris !! Just Guessing ,,but think the ""DEERE "" had a grapple on it instead of a thumb ??? Either way ,, yes,, the ""Deere "" gets the vote this time around !! 🤔🙄👍👍👍👍👍
Good choice Chris
Deere all day but being a Deere fan it pains me to say it but I think Kobelco makes the best excavators.
That was a surprise, I thought would have been the Hyundai. :) Thank you and have a great day.
I liked this one Chris.
Nice change from the normal vid.
I'm a farmer, wear green underwear, of course you picked a deere ;)
lol
Yes sir
That's a surprise. I almost predicted you voting for the Hyundai.
With changes.
Great comparison video bro and shows the respect others have in your opinion. Safe travels. Ken.
The Comparison Hyundai 160 A and Deere 160 G . Of the first Look and by the Work. I to find the Deere 160 G is the Solid Machine. By the Work the Arm is low and stroke not Metal on Metal. What the Performance deccaration??? Can I not say, You. The best Driver to know more! 🤔
Your working with AMI for the design elements that you prefer would work well on the John Deere and probably as well for the Hyundai. I would definitely lean toward the Deere with AMI thumb and progressive link. That said, the Hyundai would serve very nicely.
Semi tough choice. Mainly personal preference. He just needs to run each one for himself.
I feel so dumb for asking. But can you do a video explaining the progressive link thumb vs non progressive link?
Chris Volvos have progressive link thumbs, they are hinged off the thumb cylinder and have a greater range of motion compared to a pin on thumb. Say you get 180 degrees of rotation out of a pin on thumb set up…he’s getting like 270 degrees of rotation out of the progressive link set up…that’s the main difference…most people would prefer a progressive link, it just comes down to how much money you want to spend on it.
The main thing you need to know is that progressive link has more range of motion and so it can close more, if you're trying to pick something up with a non-progressive thumb it has to be farther away from the machine to fully close the thumb, otherwise the angle of the stick doesn't let the thumb extend far enough to meet the bucket since the thumb cylinder isn't long enough. Progressive gets around this by basically adding extra hinge points, it can grab things much closer to the machine because it has more range of motion.
Deere erm... Hitachi makes a pretty good machine (even if Deere paints them a funny color) and its probably smoother then the Hyun die, better resale value too.
I’m so glad you picked the Deere. Exactly the one I would have chose before you even finished the demo.
Is there not a Volvo dealer near by? Or was there not a 160 available.
No thumb versus a bad thumb, no decision in my mind. A thumb is indispensable.
I was surprised with your choice. I guess since we couldnt feel how they ran, we can only go with your opinion. You are such a neat freak, in a good way, that i was wondering if all the panel damage and scratches on the Hindi hurt its chances in this? Even the bigger bucket on the Deere made you feel better about it maybe.
No it's a Hyundai piece of I can't afford something else piece of shit. That's actually what case stands for but Hyundai will go for it too
Hey Chris another great Video is it possible on the thumb that the hydraulics on it have Air in the line cause it to react slow kinda odd while machine runs quick boom and Stick but thumb don’t just askin thanks again 👍👍👍👍
The track popping would drive me nuts
Oh Man! Look at all those cinder blocks! 😂 Haven’t commented in a while.
That super slow non-progressive thumb would drive me crazy..I’d rather have a machine with no thumb letting me spend the money on a better performing unit….Chris you were being nice , you waited on that thumb the entire time you ran the Hyundai.
The Hyundai are top quality machines with more power than most, we run two of them, one has over 13000 hours on it with hard work pushing big trees and working with rocks and has not missed a beat.
Smart client getting Chris' opinion! Wanna bet he bought the Deere 160! 👍👏✨😍❤
I’ve run both machines the Hyundai is the better machine of the two but I run a 120h Volvo wheel loader so I’d find me a Volvo
Great choice great video thanks Chris
You have many hats😂❤
Can the thumb speed be adjusted through the software on the Hyundai?
Boa tarde muito ótimo essa máquina bonito amigo
Exactly
THANKS!
Needed to throw in a Kobelco and a Sany to round out the competition.
When are you going to put a thumb on your 330?
neither one are bad machines… probably both better than that 140 mikey had for a while.. Hell, Mikey might even like both over his 120.. (and we know he LOVES that baby).. but it’s also shows it age… that thing probably has so many hours even it don’t know anymore.
Buts its paid for and still gets the job dun!
Both are missing just one thing and thats the ld 18 bucket and thumb from ami
I was hoping that you were going to compare Mike’s 210 to your 220 at some point.
Doesn't cost factor into the equation?
Recommend he gets the AMI LD18 thumb for that Deere and you will have a clean setup.
It may be faster but I got to give it to the 210 it is strong as can be.
Yes a 210 is stronger…it’s in a bigger class, everything is bigger, more powerful and heavier… can only compare machines in the same weight class to notice differences between functions.
Tusen takk for videoen. 👍🤗👍🇸🇯
The Deere has a lot more squeaks!
In one of the first videos of Dirt Perfects 210 he said that he tuned the speed on the ma
How do they compare to uncle John's 160 Volvo?