@@JKTProductionzIncNCo statistically it was at least just as good. Not as much team success, but statistically his rookie year was just as good as Kobe's MVP season
Only thing he lacked was how to play within a system at a level to win rings. Phil Jackson helped him learn that. Individually though he was a one man army in the 80s.
Not only that but 3 of the 4 Bulls wins in the finals Pippen averaged 16.6 ppg on 32% shooting & 10% from 3. Can you imagine if a certain individual today had a sidekick averaging that, his fans/media would’ve said he carried his team & that Pippen is trash.
This video is outstanding. I never thought I could have someone convince me that the 93 season was better for MJ overall than the 91 or 92 seasons, but you did it.
You've just been hoodwinked!. 1993 MJ was not better than 1992 MJ at all. hint. 1993 ECF NYK vs Bulls. MJ was ave 1st 3 games as bulls trailed 1-2 as jordan shot around kobe'ish 38%FG. 1993 ECSF vs CAVS, MJ cooled off with18 pts game and 29 pts game after starting 1993 ECSF game 1 with 43pts over jordan stopper gerald wilkins because he sprain his wrist in this series. 1993 MJ lost many very close regular season games I can count atleast 10. 1993 Bulsl finished with only 57 wins as compared to 67 wins in 1992. 1993 MJ was burned out cuz of 1992 olympics and constantly complained of 1993 regular season fatigue.
@@mkhan8527 I'm 41 y/o and wholeheartedly agree with your assessment. In 1993, MJ was mentally and physically tired and it showed (playing 100+ games in the 1992 season - followed by the 1992 Olympics). Stats don't tell the whole story. Compared to his previous years, he was less explosive; began to pace himself more; and became more of a jump shooter (including more 3s). I also felt that he lost a little of that mental edge that was unmatched in previous years (he regained it again in 1996). He also had a lot more off games this season, including in the playoffs. Don't get me wrong, he was STILL Michael Jordan and was the most skilled that year... but by his standards, 1993 doesn't deserve the 1st ranking on the S tier. His individuals stats were still outstanding, but he was a little less consistent and it showed - specially in the ECF vs the Knicks. MJ only had 2 good games in that series (Game 4 + 5). The Bulls lost the 1st 2 games (winning 4-2) and from games 3-6, I will argue that Pippen was more pivotal than MJ. Pippen had great games 3, 5, and 6. MJ was mediocre (to his standards) in games 3 and 6. The Finals that year was record-breaking for him, but after the struggles with the defensive-minded Knicks, the offensive-minded Suns were a cakewalk.
1993 was the first year you can tell he lost a considerable amount of hops. But his game IQ and mid range game was just masterful. For me MJ’s absolute peak was 1991.
1990 MJ is underrated, this playoff run doesn’t get much attention as it should. He had 6 games over 40+ points, 10 games over 35+ points, 12 games over 30+ points. All in only 16 playoff games, that’s incredible. Also he had 5 games over 45+ points. To put that in perspective, Wilt/LBJ both have 7 45+ points in the playoffs for their entire career. Kareem/Kobe/KD/Curry all have a combined 7 45+ points. MJ should’ve been in the finals that year, and had Pippen/Grant & everyone else (minus MJ) would’ve shown up in game 7 vs Detroit it would’ve happened. They shot 16-63 23.8% from the field with only 43 points while MJ shot 48.1% & had 31. MJ haters told me he always had a superteam though...
87 to 93 is Jordan's absolute peak. If you want to create the perfect basketball player, that Jordan is the perfect basketball player. That version is the absolute GOAT in basketball.
A he’s first year with the wizards with no other all star was really good before he hurt his knee the wizards were a playoff team and were the best defensive team in basketball. Very underrated
Yes I would say the first year as a Wizard was the best of that tier Defensive was insane at that time league scoring was down and he held his own. I always wish he came back to a better team.
@@mauricedavis1740 I didn’t say that even the best rookies could average that, because they can’t. I said prove it to when he said “The NBA was way more tougher”. My response to that is that the NBA nowadays, although the rules and landscape of the league are different than 35 years ago, the average player is better now than back then, just like how the average player in the 60s was not as good as the average player in the 90s. Why am I saying this? Because as the average playing level of average players increase, the average ceiling for the best players increase. Now I will say MJ’s ceiling is untouched by anyone ever, but MJ is an anomaly tbh.
@@eternalboss1046 well, he could have averaged a triple double for several seasons in a row, would that not put him in the GOAT Point Guard conversation? He'd be like Brian Westbrook today with even better numbers, and no pace of play or 3's helping to pad his stats.
@@paysonfox88 all you did was give your opinion on hypotheticals that did not happen in reality. Averaging a triple double for an extremely small % of en entire career does not = would have been the best point guard. Even if your hypothetical was true averaging a triple double for multiple seasons does not necessarily make that the case. Jordan was the best SG ever, but I swear you Jordan groupies try to make him out to be the best at everything when he was not.
It that all hard to imagine, he was certainly capable of consistent numbers and assists...rebounds will vary..seen him get 3, seen him get 18.. But no of course no one can do everything. I wouldn't put him in a hypothetical 'potential great big man' debate...he's just not going to work.. Then Ewing gets his revenge and Wilt finally gets to prove himself right. I believe it's some other fanbase needs strapping for claiming Thier hero can 'play all positions' literally believing it. Besides, today the 'positions' are all kinda the same so it's a non arguement... Back when there was truebig man/little man split in skills and responsibilities these players today wouldn't fit. Small men will be too fast, big men blocking hoops and everyone physical... Whole different players become stars and stats from different generations can't be compared anymore caus all rules point to faster, higher scoring. So to suggest someone can 'play all positions'' in an era where being the best all round average is better than being a clinical specialist. Yes there are some Jordan fanbase acting like dicks...but please use that energy on the real thing causing so much disrespect these days in NBA conversations.
He played PG for 24 games, not 11. The 11 number is brought up specifically due to the 10 Triple Doubles in 11 games, with 7 straight Triple Doubles during those 11 games.
Great video I'm in near complete agreement. I'd swap 96 for 91 even though I agree with your point the Sonics Finals it was arguably his worst series. I totally agree 93 was his best season most of his teammates took slight steps back. He dropped 50+ a lot that season and 3 times in the playoffs. Great work.
In that '92 Finals, the Bulls and Suns scored the exact same amount of points despite the Bulls winning in 6. Jordan averaged 8 points more in the Finals than he did in the regular season. If he averaged what he did in the regular season, the Bulls lose to the Suns. Underrated carry job right there.
MJ in 89' had the 2nd greatest season according to the stats.. only bested by his 88' season.. game score of 130 ish. (88' =160s). Jimmy high roller has a good video
In the 1992-93 season, Michael Jordan had the highest athletic ability, physical strength, agility, completeness of inner and outer play skills, psychological advantage from consecutive wins, rich experience, motivation for three-peat, both mentally and physically as a player It was in the state of being at the peak of perfection. Considering that, unlike the season in the playoffs, the difference in individual talent is the most important factor in determining victory or defeat, Jordan's status alone could make the Chicago Bulls of the 1993 NBA Finals the most powerful team in history. He averaged 41 points in the 1993 NBA Finals. Particularly in Game 4, he scored 55 points. GOAT
5:30 -- I had MJ 1988 as the greatest overall season by him. His team may not have been good, but for his effectiveness, it was at an all time high. Stop me when the next player who wins MVP also wins Defensive MVP the same season again. It's not happening. There was a stretch of 33 games actually where Jordan played point, and he got around 15 Triple Doubles in that 2 month stretch. Had MJ played Point guard in the slow 1990's, he would have averaged a triple double like Oscar Robertson did in the fast pace 60's without all the advantages that era gave for pace and shots. I honestly think Jordan in 1989 could have averaged 33 PPG, 12 Assists, and 11-12 rebounds if he'd been point guard all season. Those numbers would take some serious effort to beat even today.
Good video. Only change I would make move the 89 season up to the A tier. Great season great stats and what he did as PG at end of regular season was phenomenonal
Jordan's career can't be ranked he's an innovator which means if he didn't exist how you see players at the two guard and forward positions playing today wouldn't exist. he and a couple of others changed the way players played the game you can't rank someone like that
92 Jordan is the greatest combination of his athletic ability and his overall fundamentals, skills, and shooting etc. But 98 Jordan might just be the best because he was so dominant over the league, he lead the league in PPG, he was 1st team all defense, he won all star game mvp, regular season mvp, and was his biggest carry job, because Pippen was starting to break down he had injuries, and the supporting cast really wasnt good to begin with and they were getting old. And we all know how Jordan capped off that season with the steal and then the shot of shots. He was so mentally dominant in 98, he willed that team to the title.
Bruh Jordan averaged 25 points as a 39-year old before his injury on the Wizards. It's not even a stretch to say he'd average damn near 40 in the modern NBA if he played in his prime.
very severely underrated 1989 season. Had it not been for THE SHOT, bulls crash out of 1989 first found. Pippen traded. Grant traded. Phil never becomes head coach. THE SHOT blunted the horrible Oakley trade. as bulls escaped into ECSF beating the much more superior and balanced 1989 cavs that won 57 games, 10 more games won than 1989 bulls and went 6-0 vs bulls in 1989 regular season.
@@mkhan8527 some people believe this was Jordan's prime year, and dont forget they lost to a Legendary Detroit Pistons team in their prime while some of n.v the Bulls main guys like Pippen and Grant were very young still. Some people say this was Jordan's prime year, mayb phisically
I think Jordan himself said he felt like that was his best year. That 89 playoff run was insane. Jordan carried that team and the moves he was making were mind blowing.
@Z Z this is true, you’re right, but during that time, the league saw its best defense efficiency team wise. If you look up other great scorers during that era like Kobe, T-Mac, Paul Pierce, and Vince Carter to name a few, they weren’t the most efficient either. Before his knee injury, that 2002 wizards team were going to be a playoff team as the were the 4th seed in the East and they were one of the best defensive teams in the league. He had to rely more on skill and iq and averaging 24 ppg during that era is very respectable.
I've been saying for years that Knicks fans calling Jordan the GOAT is reason enough to agree. If any fanbase had just cause to absolutely hate Jordan, it would be Knicks fans for sure. But greatness is greatness and y'all recognize it even if you were one of his biggest victims. Much respect for that.
I would agree but for Jordan 24 is below average since he averaged 30. LeBron isn't a scorer like mj so him averaging 25 doesn't rly matter since he's giving u 8 boards and assist. Just my take on it
Mr james is not in the top 10 in points per game , rebounds , assist , his team doesn't have the best record but yet he is number 1 for MVP... Does that make any sense at all 🤔🤔.. or has the laws of the game change
@Michael D. LeBron is tied for 11th in scoring. Not in the top 20 in rebounds . Tied for 8th in assist . Not in top 20 for steals .. not in top 20 for blocks .. not in top 20 for field goal percentage.. he is in top 5 for turnovers per game .. check ur stats n see if I'm lying
@@gudlukadventures4785 last season, #1 in assists and top 10 in scoring. Lebron could easily average 30-35ppg if he had the same amount of shots as MJ and the same amount of assists by passing less and scoring more
@@gggyy7104 lebron is an extremely overated player .. If LeBron could average 35. Jordan could have average 70 .. .. LeBron wasn't number 1 in assist last season n he wasn't in the top 10 in scoring.. Even AD average more than him in scoring last season
Great video! You made some great convincing points. But I'd consider 88 s tier just based off his infinite stamina at his physical peak. That was young jordan at his apex. 96 and 91/92 imo were s tier but this is not a bad list!
Nice video. Just a small correction about your comment at 2:35 - his 43.7 PPG against the Celtics in '86 is *not* (and was not at the time either) the highest scoring average in a playoff *series.* It was the highest scoring average for an entire *playoff run.* There's a difference. Playoff run means all series in a given year. It just so happened that MJ only played in one series that year, so his series scoring average of 43.7ppg ended up being his average for the entire playoff run. And that is the highest average for a playoff run in NBA history. But he averaged more in several series - they just happened in years where his team went further in the playoffs and he scored less in the other series, so his average for those playoff runs was lower overall. Jerry West also had a higher average in a series in the 60s. Here are the top 10 individual playoff *series* scoring averages of all time: 46.3 PPG on 45% FG - Jerry West - 1965 WDF vs Bullets (Won 4-2) 45.2 PPG on 56% FG - Michael Jordan - 1988 1st Rd vs Cavaliers (Won 3-2) 45.0 PPG on 61% FG - Michael Jordan - 1992 1st Rd vs Heat (Won 3-0) 43.7 PPG on 51% FG - Michael Jordan - 1986 1st Rd vs Celtics (Lost 3-0) 43.0 PPG on 55% FG - Michael Jordan - 1990 ECSF vs Sixers (Won 4-1) 42.6 PPG on 60% FG - Bernard King - 1984 1st Rd vs Pistons (Won 3-2) 41.0 PPG on 51% FG - Michael Jordan - 1993 Finals vs Suns (Won 4-2) 40.8 PPG on 40% FG - Rick Barry - 1967 Finals vs Sixers (Lost 4-2) 40.6 PPG on 43% FG - Elgin Baylor - 1962 Finals vs Celtics (Lost 4-3) 39.8 PPG on 52% FG - Michael Jordan - 1989 1st Rd vs Cavaliers (Won 3-2) Jordan has a preposterous 6 of the top 10. No one else has more than one in the top 10.
I remember reading somwehere when jordan played PG, some coaches saying it was unfair to give him more ball possesion and would be scary if he gets used to facilitating and scoring at the same time. I wish I have some links or some newspaper to confirm whether it was true or not.
This is interesting. I suspect that if we had the type of data we have today back in both of the 3 peat years, we'd find out Jordan is better than we think. Especially after the comeback. Dude was deadly in the midrange.
You can't go against 88 Jordan. He did not have the squad, but he's the only player that looked (quite literally) like a sped up, video game cheat code player who could make all of his shots at a cheat-code rate of efficiency. It was freakish... more so than anything we even saw from Ali, Gretzky, and GOATs of the other sports. It doesn't matter who you are, that Jordan would be terrifying to face. He's the only player that I've seen who simply wrecked everyone on every team like a demolition machine.
Barkley should’ve won the MVP in ‘93 but Karl should not have won it in ‘97. He and MJ had very similar stats but MJ was had more win shares and his team had more wins.
do you have a link to that video? I noticed that fact some time ago and were impressed. Kobe might have imitated MJ but it was light years behind him in athletic ability, first quick step and many other details
My Ranking: S Tier: 1988, 1989, 1987 A Tier: 1991, 1990, 1992 B Tier: 1997, 1993, 1996 C Tier: 1998, 1985, 1986, 1995 F Tier: 2002, 2003 Rank by Season: 1) 1988: 1st MVP, DPOY, 35ppg, 2nd straight season w/ 200 steals + 100 blocks. Bulls 50 wins, 1st over .500 season 2) 1989: Best all-around season (32,8,8), played point guard late in season. triple double machine. insane playoff run... carried 6th seeded Bulls to ECF w/ little help 3) 1987: 37ppg, 3k points, robbed of defensive 1st team, 1st season w/ 200 steals + 100 blocks 4) 1991: MVP, best shooting % of career (nearly 54%), 1st title 5) 1990: added 3-pointer to his game (avg 37% on 3 attempts per game, best with 23ft,9in 3 point line). Bulls 55 wins 6) 1992: MVP, great playoff run en route to 2nd championship, dominated Drexler in Finals, Olympics 7) 1997: Most polished 2nd 3 peat season imo. Legendary Finals run w/ flu game, game winner in game 1. 8) 1993: 1st 3peat season. Bad ECF vs Knicks. wrist injury. became mostly a jump shooter and perfected fadeaway. 9) 1996: MVP, had best Bulls team (72-10). Subpar Finals vs Sonics. back injury during 1st round 10) 1998: MVP, least efficient full Bulls season. Last Dance. Great Finals (last shot) 11) 1985: Rookie, all-star starter, led league in total pts, revolutionized how bball is played 12) 1986: Foot Injury. played only 18 reg season games on minutes restrictions. 63 pts vs Celtics in playoffs 13) 1995: 1st comeback season, 17 reg season games. still in baseball shape + fatigued. lost in ECSF to Magic 14) 2002: 2nd comeback season. on pace to carry lowly Wizards to 45+ wins then got injured. missed playoffs 15) 2003: slowed by previous year's injury. played all 82 games. still averaged 20ppg at age 40. missed playoffs
In 1987 he got swept in the first round. He was putting up empty stats like westbrook in 2017. He wasn't helping his team win at all. How is that S tier?
@@ZZ-ex8py Please re-read my Rank by Season explanation for 1987. As for your assertion that he was putting up "empty" stats like Westbrook in 2017, I wholeheartedly disagree. The Bulls were predicted to win 30 games that season. Krause got rid of Orlando Woodridge, the 2nd leading scorer for the Bulls MJ’s 1st 2 seasons - and other members of "Bulls Traveling Cocaine Circus". In 1987, the 2nd leading scorer for the Bulls was 'offensive powerhouse' Charles Oakley at 14.5 ppg, yes... that Oakley. 1987 was Oakley's best scoring season outside of 1990 w/ the Knicks (14.6). He was a career 9.7 ppg scorer. MJ took a bunch of nobodies and propelled them to a nearly 500 season, the 7th seed in the East ; all by leading the team in points (37.1), steals (2.9) and blocks (1.5) - and by playing all 82 games. Talent-wise, it was his worst Bulls team. Simply, he had NO help and anybody that could create their own shot. Oakley was the enforcer and provided him protection, whilst also being an outstanding rebounder... nothing more. In summation, he DID make that terrible team as good as they could be by showcasing that he was the best offensive and defensive player in the world. He was a one-man wrecking crew, not because he wanted to be, but because he HAD to be. Hope this helps.
MJ’s rookie year was better than some Hall of Famers best years
It was better than Kobe's 2008 MVP season. Let that sink in.
@@JKTProductionzIncNCo but not in team success and IQ.. so 2008 kobe was still better.. but aside that mj>>kobe in other years
@@JKTProductionzIncNCo no it wasn’t... lmaooo
@@JKTProductionzIncNCo statistically they were similar but Kobe had better IQ, Leadership, and didn’t have to solely impact the game as much.
@@JKTProductionzIncNCo statistically it was at least just as good. Not as much team success, but statistically his rookie year was just as good as Kobe's MVP season
Late 80's Michael Jordan was just something I've never seen a guy that young score 35+ PTS a game an absolute monster.
On 20 shots btw
@@21schznoidjimmy yeah, while being the best defensive player at the same time, beat that
@@VM-gc8ec aka dpoy
Or when he avg 35.0 87-88 & won DPOY & MVP! When teams were actually allowed to play D & hand check!
Only thing he lacked was how to play within a system at a level to win rings. Phil Jackson helped him learn that. Individually though he was a one man army in the 80s.
Jordan is one of a few players. The more you learn about his career. The greater you realize is was. Wow
lebron better
@@mumu4L
Not even close
@@mumu4L lebron is better than kobe but not jordan.
@@mumu4L keep chasing that ghost
@kashmumu
Comedian ?
Chace me a good laugh anyways..
In 97 Michael Jordan is the only person to win a championship win only one teammate averaged double digit in points.
That run is easily one of the greatest championship runs of all time.
Not only that but 3 of the 4 Bulls wins in the finals Pippen averaged 16.6 ppg on 32% shooting & 10% from 3.
Can you imagine if a certain individual today had a sidekick averaging that, his fans/media would’ve said he carried his team & that Pippen is trash.
@@eazyduzit-tr3nx well sir I’m not quite sure who u talking bout bt if I had to guess he would say mr4-6 in the finals
@@eazyduzit-tr3nx hehe certain individual that's funny😂.
@@asiaticman3070 well “L”ook man, I’m not saying you’re right “B”ut I’m definitely not saying you’re wrong, “J”ust so you know
This video is outstanding. I never thought I could have someone convince me that the 93 season was better for MJ overall than the 91 or 92 seasons, but you did it.
Yeah same! I always thought the ‘96 MJ was best, but to me, that was more team than it was him. At that point, my mind went straight to ‘93.
You've just been hoodwinked!. 1993 MJ was not better than 1992 MJ at all. hint. 1993 ECF NYK vs Bulls. MJ was ave 1st 3 games as bulls trailed 1-2 as jordan shot around kobe'ish 38%FG. 1993 ECSF vs CAVS, MJ cooled off with18 pts game and 29 pts game after starting 1993 ECSF game 1 with 43pts over jordan stopper gerald wilkins because he sprain his wrist in this series. 1993 MJ lost many very close regular season games I can count atleast 10. 1993 Bulsl finished with only 57 wins as compared to 67 wins in 1992. 1993 MJ was burned out cuz of 1992 olympics and constantly complained of 1993 regular season fatigue.
@@mkhan8527 I'm 41 y/o and wholeheartedly agree with your assessment.
In 1993, MJ was mentally and physically tired and it showed (playing 100+ games in the 1992 season - followed by the 1992 Olympics).
Stats don't tell the whole story. Compared to his previous years, he was less explosive; began to pace himself more; and became more of a jump shooter (including more 3s). I also felt that he lost a little of that mental edge that was unmatched in previous years (he regained it again in 1996). He also had a lot more off games this season, including in the playoffs.
Don't get me wrong, he was STILL Michael Jordan and was the most skilled that year... but by his standards, 1993 doesn't deserve the 1st ranking on the S tier.
His individuals stats were still outstanding, but he was a little less consistent and it showed - specially in the ECF vs the Knicks. MJ only had 2 good games in that series (Game 4 + 5). The Bulls lost the 1st 2 games (winning 4-2) and from games 3-6, I will argue that Pippen was more pivotal than MJ. Pippen had great games 3, 5, and 6. MJ was mediocre (to his standards) in games 3 and 6.
The Finals that year was record-breaking for him, but after the struggles with the defensive-minded Knicks, the offensive-minded Suns were a cakewalk.
1993 was the first year you can tell he lost a considerable amount of hops. But his game IQ and mid range game was just masterful. For me MJ’s absolute peak was 1991.
1990 MJ is underrated, this playoff run doesn’t get much attention as it should. He had 6 games over 40+ points, 10 games over 35+ points, 12 games over 30+ points. All in only 16 playoff games, that’s incredible.
Also he had 5 games over 45+ points. To put that in perspective, Wilt/LBJ both have 7 45+ points in the playoffs for their entire career. Kareem/Kobe/KD/Curry all have a combined 7 45+ points.
MJ should’ve been in the finals that year, and had Pippen/Grant & everyone else (minus MJ) would’ve shown up in game 7 vs Detroit it would’ve happened. They shot 16-63 23.8% from the field with only 43 points while MJ shot 48.1% & had 31. MJ haters told me he always had a superteam though...
MJ THE GOAT
Agree
@Ethan Hill got me in the first half
43.7 ppg is actually not the highest... It was Jordan in 1992 first round where he averaged 45 ppg on 60% from the field.
I’m pretty sure he meant for the whole playoffs since he didn’t perform that well in the 2nd round and further
93 is his greatest year to me. He was unreal in 93..
Michael "there is no OFF switch" Jordan
MJ was amazing and was a complete player of the highest order! Don't let these lame ass sport debate shows tell y'all he was only a scorer
Facts
I think most people know he was elite at defense too. Only that doesn’t get mentioned by youngsters because defense don’t exist today.
@@GoGetYourShinebox tbh he was primarily a scorer and defender, not saying lebron is better but he does more on the court
@@slashbxe2832 yeah LeBron does more flopping and crying to the refs
@@Jeramithehuman damn bro so funny
87 to 93 is Jordan's absolute peak. If you want to create the perfect basketball player, that Jordan is the perfect basketball player. That version is the absolute GOAT in basketball.
I argee
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98 should've been S tier imo for jus how much he carried that team
A he’s first year with the wizards with no other all star was really good before he hurt his knee the wizards were a playoff team and were the best defensive team in basketball. Very underrated
Yes I would say the first year as a Wizard was the best of that tier Defensive was insane at that time league scoring was down and he held his own. I always wish he came back to a better team.
@@1D4ever agreed
I think id put mjs 98 season in the S tier because he did it at age 35.
He averaged 28.2 points in his rookie season not a lot of people can do that in back then The NBA was way more tougher
Prove.
@@keres9580 Watch 1980s - 90s basketball Way more tougher than today’s basketball era you’ve probably never watched
@@Thatguy3020-z8l that’s true
@@keres9580 you’ll never see a rookie average that much again. Even rookies on bad teams don’t average anywhere near 28 ppg..
@@mauricedavis1740 I didn’t say that even the best rookies could average that, because they can’t. I said prove it to when he said “The NBA was way more tougher”. My response to that is that the NBA nowadays, although the rules and landscape of the league are different than 35 years ago, the average player is better now than back then, just like how the average player in the 60s was not as good as the average player in the 90s. Why am I saying this? Because as the average playing level of average players increase, the average ceiling for the best players increase. Now I will say MJ’s ceiling is untouched by anyone ever, but MJ is an anomaly tbh.
Man that jordan rookie year was top notch, 91 finals 11 assist amazing
i would rank the season when he was defensive player of the year to go along with topscorer to best his best personal season...
It's an award He was the best scorer and Defender many years
@@1D4ever agreed!
Jordan was a one man army then but he was a far superior team player in the years following that season.
yea DPOY AND MVP is sick too
He won mvp that year too I think
It's crazy to think he would've been the greatest point guard of all time too
lol no.
@@eternalboss1046 well, he could have averaged a triple double for several seasons in a row, would that not put him in the GOAT Point Guard conversation? He'd be like Brian Westbrook today with even better numbers, and no pace of play or 3's helping to pad his stats.
@@paysonfox88 all you did was give your opinion on hypotheticals that did not happen in reality. Averaging a triple double for an extremely small % of en entire career does not = would have been the best point guard. Even if your hypothetical was true averaging a triple double for multiple seasons does not necessarily make that the case.
Jordan was the best SG ever, but I swear you Jordan groupies try to make him out to be the best at everything when he was not.
It that all hard to imagine, he was certainly capable of consistent numbers and assists...rebounds will vary..seen him get 3, seen him get 18..
But no of course no one can do everything.
I wouldn't put him in a hypothetical 'potential great big man' debate...he's just not going to work..
Then Ewing gets his revenge and Wilt finally gets to prove himself right.
I believe it's some other fanbase needs strapping for claiming Thier hero can 'play all positions' literally believing it.
Besides, today the 'positions' are all kinda the same so it's a non arguement...
Back when there was truebig man/little man split in skills and responsibilities these players today wouldn't fit.
Small men will be too fast, big men blocking hoops and everyone physical... Whole different players become stars and stats from different generations can't be compared anymore caus all rules point to faster, higher scoring.
So to suggest someone can 'play all positions'' in an era where being the best all round average is better than being a clinical specialist.
Yes there are some Jordan fanbase acting like dicks...but please use that energy on the real thing causing so much disrespect these days in NBA conversations.
Yea I started thinking if Jordan played in the current era he would be the point and would likely being going off for 30p, 10a, 7r at 50+% shooting.
The Goat of these types of videos, Great job again bro
He played PG for 24 games, not 11. The 11 number is brought up specifically due to the 10 Triple Doubles in 11 games, with 7 straight Triple Doubles during those 11 games.
Great video I'm in near complete agreement. I'd swap 96 for 91 even though I agree with your point the Sonics Finals it was arguably his worst series. I totally agree 93 was his best season most of his teammates took slight steps back. He dropped 50+ a lot that season and 3 times in the playoffs. Great work.
86-93 was peak mj ....he was amazing before that and amazing after but imo that was his peak
In that '92 Finals, the Bulls and Suns scored the exact same amount of points despite the Bulls winning in 6. Jordan averaged 8 points more in the Finals than he did in the regular season. If he averaged what he did in the regular season, the Bulls lose to the Suns. Underrated carry job right there.
MJ in 89' had the 2nd greatest season according to the stats.. only bested by his 88' season.. game score of 130 ish. (88' =160s). Jimmy high roller has a good video
In the 1992-93 season, Michael Jordan had the highest athletic ability, physical strength, agility, completeness of inner and outer play skills, psychological advantage from consecutive wins, rich experience, motivation for three-peat, both mentally and physically as a player It was in the state of being at the peak of perfection. Considering that, unlike the season in the playoffs, the difference in individual talent is the most important factor in determining victory or defeat, Jordan's status alone could make the Chicago Bulls of the 1993 NBA Finals the most powerful team in history. He averaged 41 points in the 1993 NBA Finals. Particularly in Game 4, he scored 55 points. GOAT
Hard 2 rate Jordan... I guess this is just playoff ranking bcuz he was a beast always. GOAT 2 ME!
5:30 -- I had MJ 1988 as the greatest overall season by him. His team may not have been good, but for his effectiveness, it was at an all time high.
Stop me when the next player who wins MVP also wins Defensive MVP the same season again. It's not happening.
There was a stretch of 33 games actually where Jordan played point, and he got around 15 Triple Doubles in that 2 month stretch.
Had MJ played Point guard in the slow 1990's, he would have averaged a triple double like Oscar Robertson did in the fast pace 60's without all the advantages that era gave for pace and shots. I honestly think Jordan in 1989 could have averaged 33 PPG, 12 Assists, and 11-12 rebounds if he'd been point guard all season. Those numbers would take some serious effort to beat even today.
Wasn't Giannis won the MVP and DPOY in the same season last year?
(and I think Hakeem Olajuwon did it too in 1994)
@@felixmartinez1100 yeah, but MJ also won the scoring title. No other player had ever won a scoring title and DPotY in the same season.
This guys diction and pacing is VASTLY improving. Great content and presentation too.
Those Jordan Haters will not accept that the fact Micheal Jordan is the best basketball player ever.
He is the greatest regular season player ever.
@@ZZ-ex8py nahh MJ the best and lebron second
@@bous_23bul80 Na mj is better in the regular season.
@@ZZ-ex8py and in playoffs
@@bous_23bul80 Lebron says otherwise
Good video. Only change I would make move the 89 season up to the A tier. Great season great stats and what he did as PG at end of regular season was phenomenonal
95-96 was underrated. He was not peak MJ in the finals, but had a 20 Win Share season and beat two 60 win teams in the playoffs. Plus 72 wins baby!
Jordan's career can't be ranked he's an innovator which means if he didn't exist how you see players at the two guard and forward positions playing today wouldn't exist. he and a couple of others changed the way players played the game you can't rank someone like that
92 Jordan is the greatest combination of his athletic ability and his overall fundamentals, skills, and shooting etc. But 98 Jordan might just be the best because he was so dominant over the league, he lead the league in PPG, he was 1st team all defense, he won all star game mvp, regular season mvp, and was his biggest carry job, because Pippen was starting to break down he had injuries, and the supporting cast really wasnt good to begin with and they were getting old. And we all know how Jordan capped off that season with the steal and then the shot of shots. He was so mentally dominant in 98, he willed that team to the title.
Bruh Jordan averaged 25 points as a 39-year old before his injury on the Wizards. It's not even a stretch to say he'd average damn near 40 in the modern NBA if he played in his prime.
This is actually spot on. I'd take anyone to play against a 91-92 prime MJ.
This is a great job bro!
If '88 had come with a ring, it would also be S-tier.
If it came with a ring, that would most likely be the best year ever.
Can you do wilt chamberlain next
Imagine if Jordan played for stats instead of chips
Then he'd be LeBron...lol
@@davidmartinez52420 🤣
MJ in the 93 Finals was a Super Sayian GT Monster. Physically & Mentally he was the Greatest Skilled Athlete in the Game of Basketball.
Great video my man👌 I’m glad you included those stats from his Washington years. If not for that knee who knows.
89 wasunderated
very severely underrated 1989 season. Had it not been for THE SHOT, bulls crash out of 1989 first found. Pippen traded. Grant traded. Phil never becomes head coach. THE SHOT blunted the horrible Oakley trade. as bulls escaped into ECSF beating the much more superior and balanced 1989 cavs that won 57 games, 10 more games won than 1989 bulls and went 6-0 vs bulls in 1989 regular season.
@@mkhan8527 some people believe this was Jordan's prime year, and dont forget they lost to a Legendary Detroit Pistons team in their prime while some of n.v the Bulls main guys like Pippen and Grant were very young still. Some people say this was Jordan's prime year, mayb phisically
I think Jordan himself said he felt like that was his best year. That 89 playoff run was insane. Jordan carried that team and the moves he was making were mind blowing.
@@GoGetYourShinebox hell yeah, like dat 360 layup he did on Bill Lambier after a steal, one of my top 5 fav Jordan moves
@@dsanchez9703 Outrageous
MJ’s wizard years were still better than most players in their prime. 🤷🏽♂️🔥
Fax! 😂😂😂
nope, he was incredibly inefficient. He shot 41% from the field and 19% from 3.
@Z Z this is true, you’re right, but during that time, the league saw its best defense efficiency team wise. If you look up other great scorers during that era like Kobe, T-Mac, Paul Pierce, and Vince Carter to name a few, they weren’t the most efficient either. Before his knee injury, that 2002 wizards team were going to be a playoff team as the were the 4th seed in the East and they were one of the best defensive teams in the league. He had to rely more on skill and iq and averaging 24 ppg during that era is very respectable.
@@QuinnClips247 You just named very inefficient players
@Z Z true
great video love the deconstruction of every season
MJs the goat 🐐. Nice video man, I think a Tim Duncan, Hakeem or a Larry bird video would be great for the series!
I've been saying for years that Knicks fans calling Jordan the GOAT is reason enough to agree. If any fanbase had just cause to absolutely hate Jordan, it would be Knicks fans for sure. But greatness is greatness and y'all recognize it even if you were one of his biggest victims. Much respect for that.
Imo his best regular season was 1989 but when you include the postseason that 93 season is untouchable🐐
I dunno, 1991 he was amazing in both reg season and playoffs.
So averaging 24 points in a season n that is still a bad season 🤔🤔🤔🤔.. yet mr james a average 25 points now n mi hear he is playing at mvp level 🤣🤣🤣
I would agree but for Jordan 24 is below average since he averaged 30. LeBron isn't a scorer like mj so him averaging 25 doesn't rly matter since he's giving u 8 boards and assist. Just my take on it
Mr james is not in the top 10 in points per game , rebounds , assist , his team doesn't have the best record but yet he is number 1 for MVP... Does that make any sense at all 🤔🤔.. or has the laws of the game change
@Michael D. LeBron is tied for 11th in scoring. Not in the top 20 in rebounds .
Tied for 8th in assist . Not in top 20 for steals .. not in top 20 for blocks .. not in top 20 for field goal percentage.. he is in top 5 for turnovers per game .. check ur stats n see if I'm lying
@@gudlukadventures4785 last season, #1 in assists and top 10 in scoring. Lebron could easily average 30-35ppg if he had the same amount of shots as MJ and the same amount of assists by passing less and scoring more
@@gggyy7104 lebron is an extremely overated player ..
If LeBron could average 35. Jordan could have average 70 .. ..
LeBron wasn't number 1 in assist last season n he wasn't in the top 10 in scoring..
Even AD average more than him in scoring last season
First nice 👍 dude I just uploaded my top 5 pg of all time
MJ Points Stats is just insane, you don't see those numbers average this day even though we have three pointers everywhere.
Best jordan career breakdown on YT
If Jordan played now, every year would be in your S tier
Yo what is the music playing when you are talking about the 96 season ? Please ?
I was trying to decide who IMPROVED or developed their career the best during MY ERA.
Michael Jordan or Floyd Mayweather Jr.
I’m taking 89 mj over any player in nba history
MJ didn't miss 1 gm in 96,97,98, Won 3 Titles, 2 MVPs, 3 FMVPs, 3 Scoring Titles, 3 all-NBA 1st team (both ends) 2x all-Star gm MVP, 3x total pts leader, 3x playoff and Finals PPG Leader, as a 33-35yr old.🐐
Great video! You made some great convincing points. But I'd consider 88 s tier just based off his infinite stamina at his physical peak. That was young jordan at his apex. 96 and 91/92 imo were s tier but this is not a bad list!
Nice video. Just a small correction about your comment at 2:35 - his 43.7 PPG against the Celtics in '86 is *not* (and was not at the time either) the highest scoring average in a playoff *series.* It was the highest scoring average for an entire *playoff run.* There's a difference. Playoff run means all series in a given year. It just so happened that MJ only played in one series that year, so his series scoring average of 43.7ppg ended up being his average for the entire playoff run. And that is the highest average for a playoff run in NBA history.
But he averaged more in several series - they just happened in years where his team went further in the playoffs and he scored less in the other series, so his average for those playoff runs was lower overall. Jerry West also had a higher average in a series in the 60s.
Here are the top 10 individual playoff *series* scoring averages of all time:
46.3 PPG on 45% FG - Jerry West - 1965 WDF vs Bullets (Won 4-2)
45.2 PPG on 56% FG - Michael Jordan - 1988 1st Rd vs Cavaliers (Won 3-2)
45.0 PPG on 61% FG - Michael Jordan - 1992 1st Rd vs Heat (Won 3-0)
43.7 PPG on 51% FG - Michael Jordan - 1986 1st Rd vs Celtics (Lost 3-0)
43.0 PPG on 55% FG - Michael Jordan - 1990 ECSF vs Sixers (Won 4-1)
42.6 PPG on 60% FG - Bernard King - 1984 1st Rd vs Pistons (Won 3-2)
41.0 PPG on 51% FG - Michael Jordan - 1993 Finals vs Suns (Won 4-2)
40.8 PPG on 40% FG - Rick Barry - 1967 Finals vs Sixers (Lost 4-2)
40.6 PPG on 43% FG - Elgin Baylor - 1962 Finals vs Celtics (Lost 4-3)
39.8 PPG on 52% FG - Michael Jordan - 1989 1st Rd vs Cavaliers (Won 3-2)
Jordan has a preposterous 6 of the top 10. No one else has more than one in the top 10.
Great video
Everything that you mentioned braking down the stats of the Goat was we put I have no reason to change things around at this time.
I remember seeing the 91 finals on sports classic and the way jordan was playing was very similar to lebron. His court vision was off the charts.
There's a lot of players who would love to have a season as good as the seasons you have in the F ranking!
Imagine averaging 28/6.5/6 on 51% shooting and only being the C category. Jordan was just a different breed
There's no such thing as an F tier when talking about Michael Jordan
Great vid! I agree exactly! Bravo! 👏👏
I remember reading somwehere when jordan played PG, some coaches saying it was unfair to give him more ball possesion and would be scary if he gets used to facilitating and scoring at the same time.
I wish I have some links or some newspaper to confirm whether it was true or not.
This is interesting. I suspect that if we had the type of data we have today back in both of the 3 peat years, we'd find out Jordan is better than we think. Especially after the comeback. Dude was deadly in the midrange.
Great content Man!!!
Great video bro 👍🏽
Jordan was ABSOLUTELY DOMINANT during the 1997 playoffs.
My all time favorite year of MJ is the 1991-1992 (92) he was a non stop athletic and smart player
You can't go against 88 Jordan. He did not have the squad, but he's the only player that looked (quite literally) like a sped up, video game cheat code player who could make all of his shots at a cheat-code rate of efficiency. It was freakish... more so than anything we even saw from Ali, Gretzky, and GOATs of the other sports. It doesn't matter who you are, that Jordan would be terrifying to face. He's the only player that I've seen who simply wrecked everyone on every team like a demolition machine.
Do Kobe next
Kobe
That's the big difference between him and lebron he always been the alpha and never slow down the gas paddle
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Barkley should’ve won the MVP in ‘93 but Karl should not have won it in ‘97. He and MJ had very similar stats but MJ was had more win shares and his team had more wins.
MJ is clearly the GOAT period!. The debate only exists for ratings on Sports Debate shows. Back then the NBA was way more tougher. No Blood No Foul!
Those numbers sounds like my 2K MyCareer numbers. 😂😂😂
You’re trash lol
The 1993 picture was actually 1992.
Great video
When you show us the playoffs statistics is that just the first 3 rounds, or does that include Finals as well?
Michael Jordan the goat👍👍👍👍👍 legend
Great Vid
Idk why but i feel you were the kid who read off the slides whenever he presented in class
In 1997 he had one the lowest supporting offense, i think it was 61 ppg, and in the 1998 pippen was hurt so it must have been pretty low too
Understand the respect for the 93 run but 91-92 are peak
95 Jordan was in shape. He was playing Baseball
Did anyone else see the reaction of the Nets player at 10:20? He damn near forget Jordan played for the other team...lol
Prime Kobe averaged Rookie Jordan numbers.
Someone did a video about it. Pretty crazy.
do you have a link to that video? I noticed that fact some time ago and were impressed. Kobe might have imitated MJ but it was light years behind him in athletic ability, first quick step and many other details
@@xosece I can't remember the name offhand but if I can find it I'll post the title later
MJ’s most underrated years were 89 & 97 imo
What can I say...MJ was and will be the GOAT of NBA
B4 I watch this 1988 was his best year to me
My Ranking:
S Tier: 1988, 1989, 1987
A Tier: 1991, 1990, 1992
B Tier: 1997, 1993, 1996
C Tier: 1998, 1985, 1986, 1995
F Tier: 2002, 2003
Rank by Season:
1) 1988: 1st MVP, DPOY, 35ppg, 2nd straight season w/ 200 steals + 100 blocks. Bulls 50 wins, 1st over .500 season
2) 1989: Best all-around season (32,8,8), played point guard late in season. triple double machine. insane playoff run... carried 6th seeded Bulls to ECF w/ little help
3) 1987: 37ppg, 3k points, robbed of defensive 1st team, 1st season w/ 200 steals + 100 blocks
4) 1991: MVP, best shooting % of career (nearly 54%), 1st title
5) 1990: added 3-pointer to his game (avg 37% on 3 attempts per game, best with 23ft,9in 3 point line). Bulls 55 wins
6) 1992: MVP, great playoff run en route to 2nd championship, dominated Drexler in Finals, Olympics
7) 1997: Most polished 2nd 3 peat season imo. Legendary Finals run w/ flu game, game winner in game 1.
8) 1993: 1st 3peat season. Bad ECF vs Knicks. wrist injury. became mostly a jump shooter and perfected fadeaway.
9) 1996: MVP, had best Bulls team (72-10). Subpar Finals vs Sonics. back injury during 1st round
10) 1998: MVP, least efficient full Bulls season. Last Dance. Great Finals (last shot)
11) 1985: Rookie, all-star starter, led league in total pts, revolutionized how bball is played
12) 1986: Foot Injury. played only 18 reg season games on minutes restrictions. 63 pts vs Celtics in playoffs
13) 1995: 1st comeback season, 17 reg season games. still in baseball shape + fatigued. lost in ECSF to Magic
14) 2002: 2nd comeback season. on pace to carry lowly Wizards to 45+ wins then got injured. missed playoffs
15) 2003: slowed by previous year's injury. played all 82 games. still averaged 20ppg at age 40. missed playoffs
In 1987 he got swept in the first round. He was putting up empty stats like westbrook in 2017. He wasn't helping his team win at all. How is that S tier?
@@ZZ-ex8py Please re-read my Rank by Season explanation for 1987.
As for your assertion that he was putting up "empty" stats like Westbrook in 2017, I wholeheartedly disagree.
The Bulls were predicted to win 30 games that season. Krause got rid of Orlando Woodridge, the 2nd leading scorer for the Bulls MJ’s 1st 2 seasons - and other members of "Bulls Traveling Cocaine Circus".
In 1987, the 2nd leading scorer for the Bulls was 'offensive powerhouse' Charles Oakley at 14.5 ppg, yes... that Oakley. 1987 was Oakley's best scoring season outside of 1990 w/ the Knicks (14.6). He was a career 9.7 ppg scorer.
MJ took a bunch of nobodies and propelled them to a nearly 500 season, the 7th seed in the East ; all by leading the team in points (37.1), steals (2.9) and blocks (1.5) - and by playing all 82 games. Talent-wise, it was his worst Bulls team.
Simply, he had NO help and anybody that could create their own shot. Oakley was the enforcer and provided him protection, whilst also being an outstanding rebounder... nothing more.
In summation, he DID make that terrible team as good as they could be by showcasing that he was the best offensive and defensive player in the world. He was a one-man wrecking crew, not because he wanted to be, but because he HAD to be.
Hope this helps.
@@ZZ-ex8py That 1987 team that MJ carried was way worse than the 2017 team that Westbrook was forced to carry
MJ the goat 🐐
Simply the 🐐
What does do the tiers mean? S, A, B,'C and F
The goat ever
Yooo, I had no idea that MJ averaged MVP caliber numbers in his rookie year😳
Yep during the bully ball era or when they actually played defense UNLIKE today
Spot on.
93 41 ppg any barely beat Chuck thanks to Paxson 3 and Horace block of kj I was born March 17th 93
87-B? But great video. No cap.
he got swept in the first round. He was putting up empty stats like westbrook in 2017.