The Type R That Honda Never Built: Evasive Motorsport's S2000 R
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This should have been a thing, beautiful build! So tastefully done, i can't fault 1 thing no matter how hard i try lol... 👌
Its just too bad sorros spent so much money there will be no justice if that car you worked so hard for ends up on blocks, or in a chop shop.
Larry big love from Europe man ! Tanks for finding & presented this epic S2000-R project it looks way better than what i would imagine ! if you can get update on this when you manage to film how good it handles and maybe tell us how Honda officials react to this awesome build. Keep up the awesome job can't wait to see more such cool stuff !
If only Honda could bring back the S2000 and R it, however I can’t imagine the premium they would charge on a limited quantity release. This S2000R is out of this world!
It'd probably be cheaper to just get it from these dudes in the end, knowing dealer mark ups and stuff
@@undetermined_user not even dealer mark ups. Msrp would be way to high. to reproduce all new parts, re organize assembly lines for a car that hasn't been produced in over a decade and meet current safety standards.
Honestly I would love to see a new S2000 with the K24 engine from Honda motorsports themself.
Nissan has the program to refresh Skyline GTRs to Clubman Race Spec with fresh newly hand built engines. I don't see why Honda and Toyota can't do it.
I believe Honda is infact rebirthing the S2000 and will be releasing an s2000 type r. Only problem is it will be all electric.
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Directly from the project leader of the S2000, Shigeru Uehara, when asked why there wasn't a Type R version, he said the S2000 was essentially already a Type R because there was very little room left for improvement as it was already engineer at a very high level from the start. Unlike the other "base" Hondas.
nope there’s always room for improvement he just lazy
@@deltapromasterlauj4848 actually, at the time (1995), no there wasn't.
The idea behind the s2000 was a roadster that performed like a race car that "everyone" can afford. The s2000 was packed to the teeth when it eventually hit the market in 1999. It was already producing more HP per liter then any other production car which I think Porsche finally ended up beating like years down the line.
Now as you said, there's always room for improvement. I think they felt the Americans did not like having to rev the car so high to reach those HP levels. With the introduction of the AP2 revision, they lowered the rev output in favor for a slight boost in mid range power.
The car was as stated above, already on performance levels of a type R. I guess one could say the CR model would have been that type R but the only purpose behind it was to create something even more light weight to bridge the other side of the s2000 vision. A affordable out of the box track car
If the NSX-R exists, why not S2k?
@@deltapromasterlauj4848 ya blew it
I agree, it was spect'd out and engineered way better than any other Honda from the starting point. But that being said. Wasn't much room for improvement ‽‽ I think this video right here proves that there was ALOT of room to improve upon from stock. I mean c'mon, did you watch the video
This is a real tribute to the S2000 and I think you guys have nailed it. Its sublime ❤
I dont, motor is the best part and they dropped it, they did very little otherwise
This is such a cool build. I love the white on white. Honda didn't officially produce a S2000 Type R however, they did give the F20 and F22 motors red valve covers. This is only reserved for the Type R cars. If you ask me, in essence... All S2000s are Type Rs.
I don’t doubt the price. currently building a spoon catalog s2000 and parts alone cost more than the car itself. these builds are incredible when done right 👍🏼
I really hope that this sparks something in Honda with how well this is being received. I love my FL5 but an S2000 being a RWD legend just makes me want to get one.
You seriously should. I just got an ‘02 AP1 and it’s just… unexplainably amazing. I bet that you got that CTR for that practicalness, but the S2000 is a whole nother experience.
best manual trans I've ever driven tbh.
Well received by who? They dressed up an S2K, what did they really do?
@@Resch72113 Damn, I'm 3 months late. But, watch the video again and pay attention to the parts with the K20 and turbo... it's faster than your S2000, for sure... that's what they did. They didn't just "dress it up".
Not even lying when I say I’ve envisioned this build in my mind ever since the k20c was revealed but the attention to detail with updating the front end is crazy on this. I want to see this level of detail done on an EG and Del Sol.
Check out the Built By Legends EG
It's nice but not better than opera performance x spoon sports type one x built by legend Honda civic eg6 sir 2
Touch much fromt end weight in for my taste. I would build the car first then pour whatever i have left into a J37a v6.
So clean. Would look incredible next to a white NSX-R.
OMG dream car status 😍. I really hope Evasive starts a restomod program for the S2000 like Singer, Gunther Werks etc does with Porsche. In my opinion it would be a great move on Evasive’s part if they did. The waiting list would be bananas.
You should see opera performance honda
That is such an incredible build! I was always an OEM+ enthusiast when I got into cars back in the early 2000's, everyone else wanted big wheels, huge stereos, bright colours, etc it's awesome to see it going this way now.
I love this! It’s exactly how we’d imagine a S2K type-R. Great job!
in my opinion I think it’s a little too much to be a genuine Type-R. it’s an awesome build but too far to be considered OEM Honda lol.
Except the turbo...
IMO what made the S2K special is the high revving NA motor
@@maybewibu5358 It's the modern version of what they perceive to be a S2000 Type R which would likely include a turbo given Honda's current lineup, and the state of the industry these days. Not what old guys like us remember, but the world isn't the same for us.
@@SonNguyen-mk2wq i agree about that, if there will be an s2k today they most definitely would use that engine OR WORSE ELECTRIC... But as for this build I'm kinda sad he take out the F20C
SHut up and take my money.
I remember watching a best motoring video where the chief engineer of the s2k who also worked on the nsx r and integra and civic type R's said that the s2k was built to type r spec, which is why they came with red valve covers, the s2k was basically a type r from stock because they put so much into designing and building it, and because it was being released for the year 2000 and a heritage car etc. They went all out on it
They probably didn't push the chassis to the limit like they did with the engine. It's not stich welded like the Type Rs, but then again the Type Rs were based on normal cars. They needed the extra work on the chassis to perform at that level. Either way, they missed an opportunity...there's even an NSX-R. Maybe they should've named the CR Type R instead. Would be interesting to know from Honda why there wasn't a S2000 R/Type-R
But Hector is going to be running 3 Honda Civics with spoon engines. And on top of that he just came into Harry's and he ordered 3 T66 turbos, with NOS, and a Motec system exhaust.
With all due respect, isn't turbo'ing an S2000 kinda missing the point?
Turbo S2000s have been legend since they came out - this is what a modern S2000 would be if released today - this engine easily makes 700hp - with rwd would be alot of fun and way better daily driver/powerband
It's a type R engine which comes turbo'd and if they made a modern s2000 R it probably would be also. Overall a great resto-mod to an already great platform.
@@jaysonenglish6137 yeah but the S2000 was designed NA first- the spirit of the car is NA, turbo kinda ruins the nature for me. then again im not the one building the car so
Yep
@@ShaiyanHossain I mean i guess we'll just disagree but I think it's a great re-imagined example.
I think this is fantastic! As a former AP2 S2K owner I like just about everything about this. I will say that the high-revving N/A engine is what gives the S2000 a lot of its lovable character, so were I to build an "R" version I'd find a way to keep that layout while bumping power a bit. But that's just me, the execution here is awesome and they did a great job.
Ngl. This is all pretty silly lol.
I love that Evasive recognizes the best way to enjoy a S2000 is with no roof over your head. These guys definitely get a big thumbs up for execution as this car does look like it could have been a factory offering for the most part. I've always imagined that Honda not offering a Type R version of the S2000 had something to do with the fact that in their base form, the S series cars were the only purpose-built sports cars Honda produced. Even the NSX required certain allowances for comfort/luxury as an upscale GT/supercar.
Honda s2000 is na for reason it's a real drivers car no turbo just hearing the engine rev high
If I had a rhd Japanese spec Honda s2000 and lots of spare extra money I would have it shipped back to Japan and have chassi work and other one off parts install done by opera performance of Yasuyuki Yamamoto, have either asm yokohoma or full mugen kit
I love the idea of resto-modding the S2000. This looks fantastic. Personally though, I'd want the option to keep the F20C, the true heart of the S2000 👍👍.
I gotta quit watch S2000 videos. I made the worst error of my adult life selling mine 8 years ago. Definitely the best automobile I’ve ever owned.
Go buy another one then!
@@philspaghet have you seen prices? In Canada at least they fetch $45-60k for a clean one
@@rubbertoe. I see them in Michigan for $15k for daily driver examples
@@philspaghet umm, wish I could, but they’ve tripled in price since I sold mine! Also, have a project in the garage, so it’ll have to wait.
How dare you
This S2000 R is insane and it looks just like OEM. Fantastic craftsmanship and well done gents. :) Don't mind to order one.
I could see Evasive offering the R treatment to S owners like how Singer does 911's
Not really that's either spoon sports type one, asm or opera performance
@@olavofernandes7286 are either of them in the US? Evasive might be the only one here to offer it.
I'm NOT a Honda guy, but damn this thing is mint!!! Too bad it'll cost you like 100k to have it made. Lol
THIS is the epitome of OEM+ and I'm in love!
Not really
@@olavofernandes7286 explain?
Not at all, this is pretty lackluster consider the S2K’s evasive has built
This is just a RWD Civic Type R roadster. That 9000rpm redline made the S2000 unique. Now its as quiet as a regular everyday car. Could have swapped to a JDM K20 Integra Type R and tuned it for 300whp N/A With an 8500rpm redline. OR K24 supercharged which will sound way more lively than a Turbo and have more response.
I cant believe what I am saying but I wish it had more plastic parts haha. Just reflecting on the Mines GTR, everything looked very factory. This had way too much carbon fiber parts. Now I understand that Mines GTRs had some carbon parts, But I honestly think it would look way better with plastic parts (the custom manifold I could understand). I think if EVS would to roll out a S2000R, it should also fit in the Type R budget as well as many of the Type R before it were made to be affordable Eco-Sports car. Beautiful car non the less!
How much HP without a turbo on this engine. Im seeing 153hp per liter and 306 total. Is this bc a turbo is on it? The F20c had 120/liter without a turbo
Great car!
But for 200k dollars they need better & titanium exhaust and carbon doors. Then Yes!
Personally I don’t like the front bumper extensions not being moulded in to the bumper and the visible carbon splitter without any other visible carbon kind of looks out of place. Also I don’t like the wing. Everything else I really like.
I wonder what a modern 2023 Honda S2000 would be like with the FL5 Type R’s K20 Turbo engine.
Honda sells the k20c1 as a crate motor. I’m surprised someone hasn’t developed a transmission for rear wheel drive swaps.
I’ll take 3: 1st is being driven every day, 2nd will be for show, 3rd to be used as my coffin & buried in when I die. Thank you ❤
I think the price will start at $250k-$290k. Even $250k seems a bit low .
This is a dream come true for honda fans. Crazy that s2000 here in my country is more expensive than a brand new mazda mx5 miata
0:14 Larry is the GOAT!
Honda will never make a s2000 replacement, by some miracle they do it'll be some shitty electric hybrid type.
I know ill be ordering their s2000, but with the new turbo charged engine with removable rooftop.
So awesome! I miss my S2000. Today I still have an FK8 in the garage. It would be a dream to have them combined into an S2000R!
I don’t know man. Using a turbo engine, even if it is a type R engine, kinda deviate from why the S2000 is such a legend. Should’ve just keep the NA high revving F20/22 there. The rest is magnificently done though
So sad that Honda didnt make one of these in the early S2000 days its such a cool car its crappy that they did the cheapest car Honda made in a Type R but not one of the most expensive ! Its sweet that the front bumper is blacked out in the middle it looks so much better like that instead of paint matched !
Honda could have done the same with no sweat…. But nope they rather spend time in robots that can kick a ball..
I love it, but at the price point this car will cost, I think they should have kept the factory gauge cluster.
Somehow... Evasive has basically made two of my favorite all time builds.... Dai's Ae86, and this S2000R. It probably seems like I'm just saying some sh**. But seriously I don't ever say I have a "dream car" because there is so many beautiful and thoughtful cars/builds, but Evasive Motorsports style just hits for me.
really cool, although replacing the original tach is blasphemous
Higher revving N/A would be so much better. Stopped liking Hondas ever since they went turbo. There’s loads of turbo 4 bangers out there and it’s nothing special in my opinion. Imagine a 10,000rpm 300hp N/A engine in this though… Looks are perfect though 👌🏻
Doesn’t work in today’s market. Poor emissions, fuel economy, and power.
15 year s2000 owner here. and the boys at evasive have done it again. well done boys!
Was not the biggest fan of the new bumper design, but in this execution it REALLY works. Beautiful build gentleman!
I love everything about this, but I wish this wasnt a turbo. Build up a 300+ HP K motor. I'd get it, these days a type r or type s will he a turbo..but to make this "if Honda made an S2000 Type R" it woukd have been a naturally aspirated screamer. Bigger bore, short stroke, rev it to 9k+.
the k20c is also a lot newer than the S2k and is a different era altogether
If it had an F Series motor it would be like every other S2k. There would be no incentive to buy it. Why would I pay extra for this when I can just buy a stock S2k and mod it myself? The K20C1 makes the car.
i would put that car inside my house on a turntable!
hyped you got to make this video, been following the build process online
Beautiful car, can I ask how much the car cost !!!
Larry, I love you ran through the questioning and all aspects covered. I can go on. Instant follow. Kudos to you
The level of engineering that went into this is amazing.
I'm impressed that it looks like a factory Honda car.
It's to American mindset having a perfectly balanced car only for having power only also it's half done job if you want best of the best look no further than famous Honda chassi fabrication tuner opera performance in Fukuoka prefecture Japan
Literally no engineering went into this, r u okay?
@@olavofernandes7286 Balance is good!
@@Resch72113 Be nice now.
We appreciate you too. (:
20k motec?! Jesus christ! That shit better bake cookies too!!
Love it. You must have thought about a supercharger.. lower efficiency.. but still, modern turbo chargers are ok.
Super cool car, an OG S2000 would already be a dream
Should've kept the stock tachometer otherwise 10/10 car.
I love this shop. Almost took my MR2 here when looking at engine swap options. When I've got some real money I'm definitely going to Evasive for my next build.
This is beautiful. Such incredible work and technology. I'd have done it N/A but thats just me
Need Acura to drop the s3000 type S
oem plus is the way👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
Too bad evasive has burned the s2k community so hard.
Love the car! its so freaking clean! unfortunately itll never sound good as the f or k engines.
Wow, great job. The S2000 and other older JDM does need an update performance-wise, what you did is really factory like.
Welp, this is an abomination.
Even at $250,000 - $300,000 to me it’s a bargain. When Dai says it compares to the NSX-R (Last one sold for $400,000), that made it all worth it.
yeah i agree for them to make money on this 300 atleast
Yep or you can pay 4 x the price for another famous restomod the 911 from Singer
Nope. Aint no way.
titanium shift knob wouldve looked better.
"How come Honda didn't do a Type R for the S2000"? Because it never needed it. Type R is meant to bring a car up to a hardcore sports car level. Civics, Integras and even the original NSX weren't that sporty to begin with hence they needed R treatment to make them hardcore (think NSX-R turning the NSX from luxury GT to full on, lightweight sports car). The S2000 debuted at that level already.
Evasive did a good job with this imaginative build though and I'm glad that they used the anniversary bumper. This engine lacks the RPM and character that is needed for a true S2K experience though. That being said it's got some turbocharged factory K20C1 grunt under the hood for sure ;)
Super awesome beautiful car. Awesome work. Thanks for sharing.
Great coverage Larry! This has to be the best S2000R mod!! Absolutely amazing designs.
Very cool! Probably a 60-80k cost to a donor car, don’t see it approaching 200k. Not unless they make a high revving version of it and add more custom touches to interior
i really like the style of the s2000 but sadly its not as automatic because i can only drive automatic because a special reason that still made me get my drivers licence
That's a clean S2000...I did a roll race with a tuned one, and I thought for sure I would obliterate off the roll, but we were neck and neck until I reached a higher speed. They are fast and light weight.
If Honda released an S2000R but kept the F-series and iterated on it... aiming for the 50,000 price point to compete with the Supra and the Z, I would be VERY interested. A supercharger would probably make sense to compete with the turbo 6 cylinder rivals while differentiating itself.
this is beautiful!
Beautiful. Only thing I’d change is keep the factory steering wheel with a nice alcantara wrap
YES THERE IS A DEMAND!!!!!!
Wish Honda actually made an S2000 Type R. The S2000 CR isn't even that great. An S2000 TR would have been so great to have. Lighter, faster, bigger wheels, a wing, more responsive steering, sports suspension and so much more. S2000 TR would have likely cost $50,000 usd but so worth it. Horsepower likely would have been 300 since it has to be fast too. Hopefully when Honda releases the next S2000, they will make a Type R model to give it the R treatment like their NSX, Civic and Integra.
I really want that price
Larry is one of the best car enthusiast interviewers. Asks the right questions, allows time for the owners/builders to talk. Perfect engagement.
So is this an option that Evasive builds out of someones S2000 that they bring in or is this something that they build out of a car they find and make it a S2000R instead ?
I feel like a type r s2000 is just redundant. Think about it the s2000 as a model is a SPORTS car aka its a performance orientated model for enthusiasts. Making a type R model would just make the standard model redundant as everyone would just buy the type r. It's different from the civic for example as that is designed to be a hatchback first a small family car for causing around town and going down the motorway. The civic type r makes it a sports car that the enthusiasts enjoy while still being slightly practical for a small family. S2000 is none of those things and was always for enthusiasts so imo a type r should never exist for that model and I'm guessing that's what honda decided. The only way I could see them making a type r work for it would be a very limited run say 1000 models worldwide
The reason the S2000 doesn't come with a Type R badge...because it's the only Honda born as an R. All other Hondas have DX, LX, EX...automatic, manual...even the NSX can come in automatic...so they have to put a Type R to distinguish it from the rest. S2000 only comes in manual, RWD and ready to kill from day 1.
$200,000 makes sense. But you know what the elephant in the room is?
If they go all in on this project, to streamline, to build, and HONDA decides to actually make an S2000 Type R, or release a new S2000 (highly unlikely), then evasive is gonna be left hanging. I mean yes hardcore enthusiasts with available funds might still go with evasive over factory honda. But if you're comparing $200,000 to honda's let's say.. $50,000 then that might sway even those with money.
I need a yellow with red interior 😅🥹🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🔥🔥🔥🔥💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾great build
Without the fc2000 engine this isn’t anywhere a S2k TypeR
Just my opinion ❤
This is the nicest Honda build I've seen in the last 20 years. Amazing work.
I just saw this on a 2 car trailer, May 3rd 4:30pm, with a NSX in Downey, and couldn't get my camera ready to snap some images! Exact location: EB Firestone/Brookshire!
i hate that wing, Honda of today would design a wing like that, like the hideous fk8 and fl5, but the Honda of 1999 when the S2000 come out, would never design such a ricer wing. Apart from that, its an amazing project
Why not retrofit a Motec dash C127 display in the dash instead of the fk8 dash display? $200k? That’s Porche 911 turbo territory
Clíp 3.25 see the first gen Mazda rx7 in the Backround, so sick !!! 🔥🔥🙌🏼🙌🏼
Imagine inline 6 vtec
I like how the background white GT4 is everything an old busted S2000 can never be, and yet probably cost less than this custom thing. Whatever we say, the S2000 just isn't as much a classic as people make it to be. This is no NSX.
I can't take all the dickeating this guy is doing. Cool build. If that is a stock plastic valve cover, painting it is gross. I have an FK8 and even though Type R have always have wrinkle red valve cover, painting a PLASTIC cover that doesn't need any protection from corrosion is just corny.
🤩🤩🤩!!! Why Honda never made a S2KR is due to its a convertible.
Everything redone, but they put stick H badge 😂, BTW, show us that Lexus IS300 sportscross by the entrance gate
I like the concept of the S2000R. But Honda has always leave the spirit of the R as N/A. So it's not a true R because the history of the R has always been N/A and non turbo. Also the motor is not it's original F22B but a K20? If they changed these to its original. Then it would be considered a true R.
Reminds me of my 2008 S2000 CR, just the motor it Should have had. …and I sold it. Bought for $40K. Now? $100K. Just shoot me.
Door panels could have been a lot lighter if you did something like the Porsche 718 Speedster package. S2000 GT-R would be sick also
Ok now make a TRD or GR MR2 Spyder maybe with a 2ZZ-GE. We had a Mazdaspeed Miata in 2004&5 but no TRD Spyder MR2 🤨
if Honda made an S2000 Type R in this market it would cost $70k since the Civic Type R already cost $50k with markup