Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast. 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: - Shopify: shopify.com/lex to get 14-day free trial - NetSuite: netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour - Linode: linode.com/lex to get $100 free credit - MasterClass: masterclass.com/lex to get 15% off - Indeed: indeed.com/lex to get $75 credit 1:06 - Turing test 14:51 - Brain-computer interfaces 26:31 - Singularity 32:51 - Virtual reality 35:31 - Evolution of information processing 41:57 - Automation 51:57 - Nanotechnology 53:51 - Nuclear war 55:57 - Uploading minds 1:03:38 - How to think 1:10:08 - Digital afterlife 1:19:28 - Intelligent alien life 1:22:18 - Simulation hypothesis 1:26:31 - Mortality 1:34:10 - Meaning of life
Interesting touch. I wonder what it will feel like when it hits. Perhaps it will literally 'blow our minds', a phrase that seems to originate in the cultural milieu of those bringing this to fruition.
he used to give a lot of talks to really small fry media people. I remember one podcast he was on and it only got a few hundred views. That was a long time ago though.
I just wish lex would ask him if AI can be racist. From the many videos I've watch of Lex , this was the first time I heard him speak on the concern of AI and the merging of AI tech with biology only being available to the rich. This essentially creating a bigger gap between classes. Poor Vs rich/ human Vs cyborg human. I would like to hear Lex address if machines could be racist and if there is a way to make machines in all their true superiority, Superior in radical empathy and racial acceptance.
@@Maxatrillion08 I don't know if you've been following along over the years with A.I but A.I not only can be racist but it has a history of being extremely racist. The problem is when you sample from society to make a large language model, its going to sample the racism too and include that in its replies. Recently this has been addressed but the solutions as of right now are weak and cause their own problems. Like if you ask a text to image A.I diffuser to make a picture of a civil war from some period it will include mixed races in that while it might be true that only whites were in that or vice versa. The A.I doesn't have the smarts to understand that diversity isn't always what you need but its being forced into A.I systems. I think they'll get better at this and as the language models understand what their actually saying more and more, they'll monitor themselves for this. Aside from that, the idea that only the rich will have this. This has been proven through history to be completely untrue. As they say in the podcast, the first of a new technology only the rich can afford but its usually pretty shitty at that point. As it improves and scales up, it works better until we can all afford it and it works great. All technology scales up eventually and its price drops as it scales. If you're very poor you might lose out as is the case today. But anyone with even a low income today has all the technology as a rich person has. phones/computers/a tablet maybe. big screen tv and so on. These are common and cheap. A.I assistants and upgrades to humans, these will be so very cheap everyone will have them.
So lovely Ray how you've honored and preserved the memory of your dad. Serendipity while I was listening to the podcast, my 85 yr old father walked by and stopped to ask me what and who I was listening to. When I told him Ray Kurzweil, he shared his fond memories of visiting your father (his college music professor) on Hartland Ave in Queens Village while you were a small boy... Thanks for the episode!
@dumballover123 You already have massive pipes into your brain, the spinal chord, the optic and auditory nerves, and olfactory system. these pump trillions of bits of data into and out of your brain, which filters this tidal wave of data for useful information about the world you live in, and we call this your senses. Connecting your brain directly to a source of pure information, to access all of human knowledge at light speed... To be able to connect to another human being, and share thoughts, feelings, life experiences as though they were your own... To record the lives of our best, brightest, most beloved, most decent, and have access to those lives, their experiences and formative thoughts, their epiphanies, and enlightenment. Would that not be the exaltation of being human? Would that not be heaven on earth. The punishment for a crime, would be to have the perpetrator experience his act as the victim. How long before crime vanished from the world, and world of infinite empathy? Human beings are going to evolve... are at this very moment evolving. a third of children born today have no wisdom teeth. That is evolution at work. We now have our hands on the wheel of evolution itself and can choose what being we become. We can transcend our worst aspects and bring to full fruit the angels of our better selves transcendent and blazing with the grace of our unbridled compassion and dignity. Every shift in human technology has changed us. Its time to choose how we will change. What we will choose to become. There have always been Luddites, afraid of change. I'm certain the was a hairy man bellowing that being human meant to live in the dirt, in the cave, by the fire, and the crazy idea of living out in the wild places in the unprotected open was against civilized human existence. They too were wrong. By all means, be cautious, demand people proceed with care and consideration. But stop and consider what it is to be human, what is most important. How do we grow and develop our kind to become everything we might become. And support that.
Lex, you are the goat of week-to-week, even day-to-day, epic guest bookings! Most remarkable, also, is the way you, comfortably, intelligently, respectfully, and even playfully, engage with each guest. Keep it up brother!
For the longest time I wanted this conversation, wondering if Ray would come back from his silence with this podcast…and he did. Can’t wait to listen!!!
We have it so good right now, let's not open Pandoras box. I'm not worried about T:2 style attack on humanity, I'm worried about an elite group of humans using AI to enslave a swaths of people in a Matrix of hedonism.
Absolutely, it was along with John Carmack one of those dream shows I've wanted. I've followed Ray all my adult life. Almost every year when I was younger I'd check back in with him. His talks would be relatively the same really but I loved every new insight each talk he gave provided. He went dark in recent years which makes this talk really quite special. I can't wait to read his new book.
This guy was my cutting edge expert for a masters computer college paper on voice recognition over 30 years ago--and here he is STILL doing this stuff.
Yes, I studied his writing as well... I loved his take on things! I won an award for my writing but I just continued was he was writing about in my own take...
When Singularity is Near came out in 2005 (and for many years later), Ray's ideas seemed fringe, if not absurd to most people, including computer scientists. I always admired his optimism though and wished that his predictions were fulfilled. Now, with the phenomenal advances in AI, the more advanced it gets, the more respected is Ray, because he was right from the beginning. It seems that now not so many people are ready to laugh off Ray's predictions... Glad to see he's getting the credit he deserves.
It's going so fast now. I have my jaw dropped every few months. I didn't discount the man back then. I hoped against all hope, and still do. I want him to be right. I mean, i watch company reps testifying before congress on how AI needs to be regulated just the other day.
@@mikegamerguy4776 That congressional hearing was profound in the sense that you rarely see such companies asking for more oversight. We truly are living in an incredible period of history.
I read that book in 2005, been preaching it ever since. Laughed at by my circles, and now... 2023 the year in which AI became mainstream. Kurzweil was no joke. dude was so on top of things.
@wwlittlejOfficial i read his amazing book too in 2007, I believed him completely, but I knew humans were not even aware or prepared for this, so i decided to keep silent all these years. Still, in 2023, technology "coaches and gurus" think they will control the future AGI and ASI upcoming just like another tool 😙🫠 ohh honey they are so sweet and innocent🤭 but they are needed to calm down people because Singularity gonna be a really Intense event.
It became very evident to me listening to Ray speak that a lot of his motivation and interest in the Singularity seems to be driven not by a fear of mortality but by personal loss. He hopes to manifest a future that will save others from that pain and suffering by restoring or preserving some form those loved ones. A noble motivation indeed.
I'm always fascinated by the loosening up of the guests during that first 60 min. The answers get more lengthy and articulate. And the guest gradually becomes more engaged and lively. That's gotta be a big part of your success lex.
@lexfridman your interview style shows so much respect and care for your guest work and life. WE NEED MORE OF THAT IN THIS WORLD! we appreciate you brother!--- np
Finally... Ray got stuck giving the same talk in every video. Now he has someone intelligent asking him real, dynamic questions so I get to hear new things.
@@nonfictionone those are bots or scam centers (probably Indian or Russian) trying to get you into an encrypted chat where they can try to take your money. Ignore those.
Glad to have lex interview this man. Tried to watch neil degrasse tyson interview him and of course he just talks over him and interrupts arrogantly and obnoxiously.
In 80s and 90s, "the experts" called him mad. In 2000s they called him eccentric. Now in 2023 they are listening and taking notes of his mathematical predictions based on the exponential. I hope he can survive to watch his Singularity💪👊 Or maybe Ray has already come from the future, sounds legit for me haha.
Kurzweil is an extraordinary person and I sincerely hope that he can live long enough to the point where science can extend it indefinitely. I hope it's nothing, but I had to speed up the video 1.25X to hear him speak at the same pace as before.
Kurzweil's optimism in a world that seems so bleak these days is so refreshing and life-affirming. Thanks, Lex, for sharing these great conversations with us.
It only seems bleak because people like to look for the negative things in the world. Negative media attracts more people than positive one due to how brain works in most people and therefore people have to deliberately search for good news to find it. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is.
With the media becoming nothing more than an extension of government, and only when one party happens to be in power, is worrisome to me. Imagine having no choice to switch said propaganda off, and having that propaganda with a feedback loop that provides info back to the originator as to whether or not you 'fully' understood the meaning. This does not end well folks.
@@neillatore6975 it is a proven fact that you can get college students to sign anything, including a petition to sterilize themselves to "save the planet"
I love this podcast because it helps me learn. Not in the sense that I regurgitate the ideas expressed, but in the sense that many ideas are fuel for two, three hour think sessions where I introspect and ask myself questions. In my attempts to answer my curiosities I find more intriguing questions and thought pathways to explore and grow. For my birthday I would like to have an open philosophy session with Lex. Could be about time travel, the meaning of life, the future of technology, the existence and presence of God, the past as a blueprint for the future, anything. Since becoming a parent, watching my son fight cancer at 4, and my life changing overnight multiple times I have learned that there are very few people who wish to explore the beauty and horror beyond the mundane aspects of life. Lex, you do that in this podcast and I am glad to have found it! Progress is the fruit of curiosity, not of the mere passing of knowledge.
Maybe create a channel and find others to interview and discuss these ideas. And interact with the commenters. When these channels go pro, they stop engaging.
Had chills the other day remembering this guys predictions and catching up on the latest in AI development recently. No matter how otherworldly his predictions seemed I now believe he is underestimating how quickly this change is going to hit us.
I read articles in about 2000, in which one Liam Lacey speculated on modern man’s dilemma or ability to adjust to life in the year 1000 if suddenly transported there. His conclusion was that it would not be terribly difficult. But then another writer, Spider ( Spyder?) something - forgot his last name - speculated in kind on modern man if planted suddenly in the year 3000. His conclusion was it would be impossible. No surprise there. And the kicker was that a main change would not be gradual, but rather occur within 50 years. So 2000 plus 50 - by 2050. In other words, about the same as predicted by Ray Kurzweil. I wish I could get a hold of that writing. If anyone, by chance knows, please comment, thanks.
@@azhuransmx126 Guys I'm from the future. Exactly 8 months away from your comments. And astonishingly AI is growing in reverse, future LLMs will need to do more things to compete with GPT4 and 3.5. Read the open ai blog post. Here we are with Kurzweils predictions being on course AGAIN. But OP still seems right, if AGI happens in 2029, there's no way singularity will happen way later in 2045. More like a month or a year away from that.
@invaderg3332 2029 AGI = reaches consciousness and begins the Human Massive Replacement in All Fields. 2045 ASI = The Singularity. Humans lose all control about WTF is going on. If not augmented, we will not understand anything, just like chimps can not understand our civilization.
This is 96 minutes of Lex trying to get Ray to laugh...and I love it. I watch these podcasts pretty much in order, but this one warranted a skip ahead. Thank you Lex and Ray!
Read his book at 17 when it came out. Even though I can't fully agree with this almost religious form of transhumanism, I can't deny that Ray's book has been quite influential for me and the way to think about the future of humanity. Thanks for all the interesting guests, Lex!
I cannot even express in words articulate enough to convey how grateful I am to Lex Fridman for his DECISION to create this channel. Brother, you filled a void in me that I couldn't even fathom I had but only through hind sight after every single episode as you and your guest leave me smiling and left wanting more! Best time spent on youtube BY FAR is on your channel and I will do so as a loyal fan for the rest of my LIFE!!! THANK YOU LEX!!!
Lex Thank you for what you are doing! These are some of my most favorite topics. I too was born in USSR, and grew up there until its collapse. Love your podcast brother! Спасибо от души и сердца.
Hi Roman, I think this is very limited talking. I live in europe and I am a scientist in the medical field. We are very limited in thinking and consiousness. Russian people and scientists are open in more levels of conciousness , especially in the non fysical world. I have very much respect for this kind of russian thinking. This type of talking is very stupid, you should know this. 😄
Lex, I love listening to Ray, but you were so thoughtful and insightful as an interviewer! You not only asked him questions I would have asked, but ones I hadn't even thought of yet. I was like: yeah! What about that?? Keep up the great work, you're really great at this!
Lex has a beautiful mind and deep intuition into human thought and behavior as well as emotion. It allows him to be a most perceptive interviewer. Ray has an exceptional ability to reason and project the answers to those questions out into eternity. Beautiful! When asked the most important thing, he answered, “Love”. John Lennon said, “all you need is Love”. Christ said, “ In the end, these three remain, ( indicating perpetually) Faith, Hope, and Love, the greatest of these is Love.” I think the content of the above interview is the most enduringly important content I’ve ever heard on the meaning of life. My hat is off to Lex and Ray!!!!
I have no negative things to say! Lex, you were great as usual. Your quest was as enjoyable to listen to and way above my 9th grade education but I try to understand as much as I can and greatly appreciate his sharing his wealth of knowledge.
The education system today, does not make you smart or better prepared for today and the future. So keep on progressing and learning any way that works for you.
@Rachel B. Well AlphaGo doesn't use a premade database of moves to beat players, it instead plays against itself trillions of matches until it finds the best way to beat itself and then it beat humans. Evolutionary algorithms was used by moderna to make vaccines and they are being used to make art and to make machines and solve problems.
What does Ray Kurzweil about the zero-sum game in this multipolar world? Will it affect technology growth? Do you think China and ASEAN will get together to fund research when they are threatened by Western military?
@Rachel B. why do you doubt that? Humans had no source of information 5000 years ago. Now look how much information we've built on top of that. When computers surpass the reasoning ability of humans, they're gonna discover anything that can be discovered at a rapid pace. Human brain isn't that special when it comes to reasoning and learning imo. But when it comes to emotions and consciousness... yeah it's fascinating
@@aoeu256 it's an accelerator if anything. I doubt it. I don't think any publicly funded research announcements matter at all. Everything you read about military/energy/AI in particular (world changing tech) is irrelevant. We already have the next 20-30 years of tech on a slow drip to society when needed. The law of acceralating returns continues.
Finally!!!! This is what we need! I wish Ray to live up to his predictions, with all my heart. And I hope that everything will be as he said. Thanks Lex.
I think his predictions are very optimistic because he's old and he wish to still be alive when technology will beat death..I hope he's right but who knows.
Hey lex, I know you know this, but excellent interview! I could relisten to it quite a few more times, and it baffles me how you can consolidate so many informed questions in a tight conversation like this.
I love Ray. I watched everything with him, and have seen him repeat himself a lot. His work is amazing, but he tends to do that. This interview really brought out a lot of interesting ideas and aspects to his thinking that I have never heard. Thanks a bunch Lex, you are the best. Literally, the best podcast.
So amazing to see/hear Ray Kurzweil here - I first heard of him through "The Singularity is Near" and I loved his optimistic and exciting view of the future. I can't wait to read the upcoming book!
Yeah, the book was a good read. However, today I think that it could take another century or more, until "yes virgin, no will, no qualia" AI can convincingly deceive experts that it has first-hand experience of living as a man or woman, instead of rendering a digest of recorded human experience found on the internet - i.e. pass the Turing test. Of course, that's not a requirement for the majority of work in the field.
The singularity. lol..... are we all falling for that .... The Great Hope. I would bet on the bow and arrow for survival over that AI bollox. Nice one mate !
Ray Kurzweil is one of the best visionaries & futurologists of our time. He even founded Kurzweil Music Systems together with Stevie Wonder & built one of the first digital synthesizers in the 80's.
What if Ray is from the future and is actually the sentient AI?😅 sometimes his voice sounds like that a little bit. Loved this episode so much. Thank you Lex! You are by far the best now.
This reminds me of that time when half the population blamed Bill Gates for warning that Covid might be coming 😂 I guess he'll become the villain eventually too
I was waiting for so long for this interview, since i saw his documentary singularity i never stopped admiring his view on the progress we do on technical engineering
Good one Lex! I’ve been aware of Mr. Kurzweil since the 80’s, played his instruments and read his books. Thank you for being you and doing such thoughtful interviews!
I've been eagerly waiting years for this interview and was not disappointed. My only complaint is that it wasn't five hours long. I hope Ray can come back soon.
Ray really glossed over the economic disparity question. It’s not the lack of dispersion of the technology that causes the economic inequality, it is the ownership of the platforms and data. He answered the question spot on by stating plenty of homeless folks have cell phones.
Some people never know of they did something worth it in life. You already know you wasted yours. Based your life off this fool. So sad dude. Hopefully you didn't reproduce.
ChatGPT (or at least public filtered version of it) is nothing but way less reliable, more articulate Google search engine. When Altman said it's good in doing impression of being something great, it was not fake modesty.
There is so much with tech that is being suppressed at the moment. I am still clueless on many aspects of it. Would be interested in hearing more about a lot of the tech that is waiting on the wings.
Calm down people and enjoy what ever life you have left. Where things are heading may sound exciting but none of it will be for your own good. Now is all you have, so enjoy
I remember when I first read a book by Ray Kurzweil, when I was 14. I was passionate about subjects related to technology, programming and futurism. When I read his books, I realized that we spoke the same language, a language that I didn't use to talk to anyone, because I hadn't met anyone who shared my fascination with technology and the future of humanity. I've read all of his books since then, and today I'm a professional programmer. I hope to help build this amazing future, even if I'm a small cog to make it work.
This is amazing. We need to hear that the futur is bright, so it can influence to get the singularity achieved with fewer probabilities on having obstacles to reach it ! Thanks Lex for freely showing this conversation, with Ray's the brillant mind.
Waited SOOOO long for him to be in this show. Forever grateful that you were able to bring him on. Awesome stuff!! He will be in history books when singularity comes.
This podcast came out with chatgpt 2 years ago, I've listened to it many times This brings back great memories and how far we have come! We are ahead of rays predictions
There is something cool about group conversations and the inter-mixing that happens John - the Venn diagram of 2 people is neat, but the combination of 3 can bring something new.
Truly one of the most brilliant, high level intellectual, and enjoyable interviews I’ve ever had the pleasure of seeing and listening to. Tyvm Lex. You started out as a great interviewer, and you’ve evolved these past two years or so, into something amazing. All my respect and admiration always.
EXCEPT when he has somebody like Oliver Stone on and SOLELY takes Stone's word on EVERYTHING without the tiniest of push-backs. Quite interesting to see, I wonder what his reasoning was for that one (since he is admittedly self-critical).
He started out as a rather poor interviewer, but because of his deeply sincere character we stayed to watch him grow. And today he truly is a great interviewer.
@@voiceofavet8277 Not true. Lex has to respect the interviewees. Lex is not your personal social justice warrior, who wields a sword for your exact tastes in your takes on reality. So... he can stab a guy you possibly have issues with ...and then lose maybe 25-50-75% of his potential pool of people to have on the podcast, by being a jerk-ass who beats on his guests. That's grade school major media television hacks who do that, as they are slaves to the given oligarchy who owns and directs their propaganda channels. Which is why it is important to have people like Oliver Stone saying all he wants on the podcast and to respect all guests on the podcast. Otherwise it will be just like all the other mudslinging partisan political tool garbage level shit shows out there.
@@vanderlubbe7791 I understand your point, dude. I just witnessed him completely let Stone run the show in that episode, and many episodes he challenges his guests. I'm not looking for what you described above. Not DISRESPECT, but engagement and challenge.
Great interview Lex! Hoping to see some interviews in the future about NDE's...people looking down at their bodies, listening to discussions between doctors that were later verified to have occurred, then having experiences seeing their relatives and being comforted by that connection. Doctor's and researchers hear these stories constantly and don't know what to make of them. Losing a loved one is such a difficult process ❤ My heart goes out to anyone in that situation right now
World class interview Lex but why not four hours?!?! He has so much knowledge and experience about AI, nanotech, longevity, I would’ve asked about his work at Google and the progress he’s seeing in AI and longevity.
Like with Noam Chomsky, a long podcast might be tiring for him. I'd love to hear more, too, but he does seem to be someone who gets to the heart of his message very succinctly.
Ray is a one of a kind visionary who will be looked back upon as one of the formative figures who ushered the human race into a better tomorrow. You have to dare it to do it, and the singularity will all teach us that our potential is far more than we could have ever imagined. Thank you, Ray
One of the very best! I would like to hear lots and lots more about how he is extending his life (food/pills/exercise/daily routine). Ray looks younger today than 5 years ago and I’d like to hear him give much much more information about that. Ask him to give a few examples more about his unconventional truths. Very very good podcast! Thank you!
If you want something simple then take Lipo NMN and Lipo Resveratrol from Renue by Science. Be careful of buying NMN from Amazon, tests have shown they contain very little to no NMN. Renue is one of the original companies and are trusted (and no I don't work for them I'm just a customer passing on my findings). BTW the "Lipo" part allows it to survive stomach acid so a lot more of it can be absorbed, it used to be a pretty big problem, so you don't actually need as much Lipo NMN as plain NMN, since its much more effective per mg. You can also take sublingual NMN which absorbs into the bloodstream via the mucous membranes under your tongue (so it doesn't need the Lipo coating), but for me taking a pill is faster and easier.
Most definitely does not look younger. He has physical habits ang characteristics of someone in their 80s. He believed that red meat and animal proteins in general were toxic. A diet of supplements and leaves won't keep you vibrant into old age. It's possible to be physically and mentally nimble into 70s and 80s and he isn't a sign of that
I've always been very skeptical about Ray's ideas since I first heard them a decade ago. I still am, but at least I've learned enough about the topic to know that I have no idea what I'm talking about now.
This video has such a great quality. But the interview was not as deep as I would expect from this phenomenal person. You must interview him again and go deeper into some of the things you touched, like his way of inventing, where he was in the past few years, his ideas about how to create a mind, about writing and more...
I was standing right next to Ray and he had an approachable vibe, but I was so involved in another conversation with someone else that I missed a priceless opportunity to get to know this great and good man. One of the major regrets of my life.
I love this conversation. I've read The Singularity is Near several times. It has helped shaped my view of our wonderful potential future. Looking forward to the sequel.
Yeah, the book was interesting. However, today I think that it could take a very long time, until "cog humour, yes virgin, no will, no qualia" AI will be able to deceive experts, who also get better in the process, that it has first-hand experience of living as a man or woman - instead of rendering a preset language model and digest of recorded human experience found on the internet - i.e. pass the Turing test. Of course, that's not a requirement for the majority of work in the field.
I'm SO glad to see a new interview with Ray! REALLY hope he stays healthy and get to see this stuff happen.. (same goes for myself lol) I used to question whether his predictions would just keep shifting further out.. But lately things are seeming even more on track for the 2029 date than I ever thought we would be. We're already seeing AI chatbots nearing the ability to pass the Turing-Test, so by 2029 it'll probably be undeniable. I think there's a VERY good chance the 2030s will be seen as 'the decade of the Singularity'.
@@tomatom9666 There have been existential threats in the past, and they haven't interrupted technological growth. Of course, it's up to us to not realise a downturn.
1:13:00 in - Copyright issues for REPLICANTS?! - mind BLOWN by this whole talk... WOW!! LEX, this is ONE of THE BEST interviews on this subject I've ever listened to! - Your questions at the end were absolutely AMAZING!!
Lex inadvertedly made Ray contemplate his mortality quite a few times in this podcast. Obviously Lex meant no malice behind it, but I giggled each time.
I like how you're gradually getting through the guests on that Future of Life Institute discussion. Speaker: Max Tegmark: ✅ 1. Elon Musk: ✅ 2. Stuart Russell: ✅ 3. Bart Selman: 4. Ray Kurzweil: ✅ 5. David Chalmers: ✅ 6. Nick Bostrom: ✅ 7. Demis Hassabis: ✅ 8. Sam Harris: ✅ 9. Jaan Tallinn: Two left to go!
long time fan of Ray Kurzweil, imo one of the most prominent futurologists of our time. thanks Lex for having this awesome person on your podcast! i was searching for the tool Mr. Kurzweil mentioned - the one which summarizes the 200000 books and gives you answer - does anybody know the name of the tool? he said it's public, but i can't find it somehow.
@@kirilangelov9752 apparently yes. crazy how 4 months ago we thought it could be cool to have something like this, and today we already casually using it.
We've also totally stagnated the amount of growth in wages vs productivity making it necessary to have more of a nuclear family engaged in full time work to support a family. Really overlooked that about job participation. Automation to this level could still have a very different effect than previous periods.
Since the 1950's our technology has increased and improved a load, but sadly our society, morality and standard of living has been going backwards and hasn't improved at all
@@mikesully110 This is subjective. History is reflected on as better times because life is hard, but there are more benefits we simply take for granted, it’s easy to look past struggles (such as modern medicine) which have such an enormous impact on family life by allowing additional decades one can spend with loved ones.
@@mikesully110 They covered this to a degree and I think the consensus is our standard of living increased dramatically. Imagine going to another country 25 years ago, or just finding your way around, or finding someone to go on a date with, or making a long distance friend, or learning any new skill, etc. Most things were a lot more difficult for a lot more people than they are today.
@@iSOBigD Is that really true though, 25 years ago to go on a date I'd likely have a high school sweetheart instead of everybody being so wrapped up in their phones, in my parents day everyone married their high school sweetheart near enough; today people are always on their phones looking at the "better option". Yes learning a new skill is easier but that doesn't make your quality of life easier if you could get by without those skills just fine in the 50's (e.g. a high school dropout could buy a house, car, and provide for a family on a factory earners wage)
Lex, have you looked into translating your podcasts into different languages? Would be a great way to more easily share these magical conversations around the world.
It’s hard to find anything to say. Wow. I have never been exposed to this type of thing before and found it mind blowing thinking. It’s incredible to know about people like this. Thank you for bringing it to this older man’s attention. Something else to explore. 🇦🇺🇦🇺
WOW! I remember seeing an interview with Ray years ago and his theories and predictions sounded so wild... it's even more wild to see how his foresight is fast becoming our reality! Thanks Lex, a great chat!! 😎 👍
He’s playing the part now of mister lover of humanity when his life’s work is aimed at a post human world where humans are simply droids and and techno shamans serve the desires of elites . Same story as it’s always been . Ray seems to equate intelligence with the ability to access information but to me it’s the ability to integrate and understand that information. How much smarter are we than the Egyptians the Greeks etc… if a smart phone is out great claim to fame .
Most of what Kurzweil said in this podcast I've heard him say before. TBF the redundancy gets to be frustrating, and boring. But there was a different emotional tone to this interview than with anyone else. It started off the same, thoughts, predictions, charts etc. But Ray noted at the end that Lex had great insight into him as a person. He brought out the humanity in Ray Kurzweil. Something both Ray and the audience very much appreciated. Great job Lex!
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1:06 - Turing test
14:51 - Brain-computer interfaces
26:31 - Singularity
32:51 - Virtual reality
35:31 - Evolution of information processing
41:57 - Automation
51:57 - Nanotechnology
53:51 - Nuclear war
55:57 - Uploading minds
1:03:38 - How to think
1:10:08 - Digital afterlife
1:19:28 - Intelligent alien life
1:22:18 - Simulation hypothesis
1:26:31 - Mortality
1:34:10 - Meaning of life
Thank you very much Lex 🙏
Thank you for your channel & guide.
Thanks, Lex, for this wonderful weekend treat! ❤
is that a wig?
He looks like like a dude who owns a plane that Jeffrey Epstein flew on. And then he molested Jeffrey Epstein.
I love that the episode number is #321, like a countdown to the singularity.
That's a good one there - the time frame showcasing its presence.
It's very satisfying 😌
The synchronicity of singularity 😊… as it comes, we should see TONS more of these.
Interesting touch. I wonder what it will feel like when it hits. Perhaps it will literally 'blow our minds', a phrase that seems to originate in the cultural milieu of those bringing this to fruition.
😝!
Lex, this is the best your podcast has looked and sounded. Beautiful image quality and lighting.
Agree. Lex looks noticeably more like a human and less like a robot now! (only kidding)
It really is noticeably improved and looks & sounds fantastic.
I agree! Awesome production Lex. 🤘🤘🤘
It's all animation
Yes the sound has improved a lot and the faces are clearer. Perhaps it's easier to simulate replicants than film old-style people?
Ray Kurzweil on a podcast - wow, only Lex can do it. Thanks so much for your great work, Lex.
he used to give a lot of talks to really small fry media people. I remember one podcast he was on and it only got a few hundred views. That was a long time ago though.
Thanks Lex!
He was also on StarTalk with Neil deGrasse Tyson
I just wish lex would ask him if AI can be racist. From the many videos I've watch of Lex , this was the first time I heard him speak on the concern of AI and the merging of AI tech with biology only being available to the rich. This essentially creating a bigger gap between classes. Poor Vs rich/ human Vs cyborg human. I would like to hear Lex address if machines could be racist and if there is a way to make machines in all their true superiority, Superior in radical empathy and racial acceptance.
@@Maxatrillion08 I don't know if you've been following along over the years with A.I but A.I not only can be racist but it has a history of being extremely racist. The problem is when you sample from society to make a large language model, its going to sample the racism too and include that in its replies. Recently this has been addressed but the solutions as of right now are weak and cause their own problems. Like if you ask a text to image A.I diffuser to make a picture of a civil war from some period it will include mixed races in that while it might be true that only whites were in that or vice versa. The A.I doesn't have the smarts to understand that diversity isn't always what you need but its being forced into A.I systems. I think they'll get better at this and as the language models understand what their actually saying more and more, they'll monitor themselves for this. Aside from that, the idea that only the rich will have this. This has been proven through history to be completely untrue. As they say in the podcast, the first of a new technology only the rich can afford but its usually pretty shitty at that point. As it improves and scales up, it works better until we can all afford it and it works great. All technology scales up eventually and its price drops as it scales. If you're very poor you might lose out as is the case today. But anyone with even a low income today has all the technology as a rich person has. phones/computers/a tablet maybe. big screen tv and so on. These are common and cheap. A.I assistants and upgrades to humans, these will be so very cheap everyone will have them.
So lovely Ray how you've honored and preserved the memory of your dad. Serendipity while I was listening to the podcast, my 85 yr old father walked by and stopped to ask me what and who I was listening to. When I told him Ray Kurzweil, he shared his fond memories of visiting your father (his college music professor) on Hartland Ave in Queens Village while you were a small boy... Thanks for the episode!
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What an amazing story! Thank you very much for sharing it with us here! ❤
Huh. Small world, as they say.
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You already have massive pipes into your brain, the spinal chord, the optic and auditory nerves, and olfactory system. these pump trillions of bits of data into and out of your brain, which filters this tidal wave of data for useful information about the world you live in, and we call this your senses.
Connecting your brain directly to a source of pure information, to access all of human knowledge at light speed... To be able to connect to another human being, and share thoughts, feelings, life experiences as though they were your own... To record the lives of our best, brightest, most beloved, most decent, and have access to those lives, their experiences and formative thoughts, their epiphanies, and enlightenment. Would that not be the exaltation of being human? Would that not be heaven on earth.
The punishment for a crime, would be to have the perpetrator experience his act as the victim. How long before crime vanished from the world, and world of infinite empathy?
Human beings are going to evolve... are at this very moment evolving. a third of children born today have no wisdom teeth. That is evolution at work. We now have our hands on the wheel of evolution itself and can choose what being we become. We can transcend our worst aspects and bring to full fruit the angels of our better selves transcendent and blazing with the grace of our unbridled compassion and dignity.
Every shift in human technology has changed us. Its time to choose how we will change. What we will choose to become. There have always been Luddites, afraid of change. I'm certain the was a hairy man bellowing that being human meant to live in the dirt, in the cave, by the fire, and the crazy idea of living out in the wild places in the unprotected open was against civilized human existence. They too were wrong.
By all means, be cautious, demand people proceed with care and consideration. But stop and consider what it is to be human, what is most important. How do we grow and develop our kind to become everything we might become. And support that.
Lex, you are the goat of week-to-week, even day-to-day, epic guest bookings! Most remarkable, also, is the way you, comfortably, intelligently, respectfully, and even playfully, engage with each guest. Keep it up brother!
amen
For the longest time I wanted this conversation, wondering if Ray would come back from his silence with this podcast…and he did. Can’t wait to listen!!!
Same here bro!
We have it so good right now, let's not open Pandoras box. I'm not worried about T:2 style attack on humanity, I'm worried about an elite group of humans using AI to enslave a swaths of people in a Matrix of hedonism.
Once they start talking about the singularity it starts popping off.
Absolutely, it was along with John Carmack one of those dream shows I've wanted. I've followed Ray all my adult life. Almost every year when I was younger I'd check back in with him. His talks would be relatively the same really but I loved every new insight each talk he gave provided. He went dark in recent years which makes this talk really quite special. I can't wait to read his new book.
This soooo fire!!! I'm excited as well
This guy was my cutting edge expert for a masters computer college paper on voice recognition over 30 years ago--and here he is STILL doing this stuff.
His predictions have been pretty spot on, right?
Here we are..
Yes, I studied his writing as well... I loved his take on things! I won an award for my writing but I just continued was he was writing about in my own take...
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He just got ate up in the comments on the Joe Rogan podcast.
When Singularity is Near came out in 2005 (and for many years later), Ray's ideas seemed fringe, if not absurd to most people, including computer scientists. I always admired his optimism though and wished that his predictions were fulfilled. Now, with the phenomenal advances in AI, the more advanced it gets, the more respected is Ray, because he was right from the beginning. It seems that now not so many people are ready to laugh off Ray's predictions... Glad to see he's getting the credit he deserves.
It's going so fast now. I have my jaw dropped every few months. I didn't discount the man back then. I hoped against all hope, and still do. I want him to be right. I mean, i watch company reps testifying before congress on how AI needs to be regulated just the other day.
@@mikegamerguy4776 That congressional hearing was profound in the sense that you rarely see such companies asking for more oversight. We truly are living in an incredible period of history.
I read that book in 2005, been preaching it ever since. Laughed at by my circles, and now... 2023 the year in which AI became mainstream. Kurzweil was no joke. dude was so on top of things.
@wwlittlejOfficial i read his amazing book too in 2007, I believed him completely, but I knew humans were not even aware or prepared for this, so i decided to keep silent all these years. Still, in 2023, technology "coaches and gurus" think they will control the future AGI and ASI upcoming just like another tool 😙🫠 ohh honey they are so sweet and innocent🤭 but they are needed to calm down people because Singularity gonna be a really Intense event.
Too late
It became very evident to me listening to Ray speak that a lot of his motivation and interest in the Singularity seems to be driven not by a fear of mortality but by personal loss. He hopes to manifest a future that will save others from that pain and suffering by restoring or preserving some form those loved ones. A noble motivation indeed.
May be a noble attempt but not a noble act. I feel bad for his lack of faith
This guy is far from noble. Dig deeper, there’s a nefarious agenda this guy is pushing.
@@MikeJones-wo7vm care to go into some detail there?
@@trippytradingcards7852 lmao
@@trippytradingcards7852 I for one will celebrate victory over death from age and assumedly most if not all diseases.
I'm always fascinated by the loosening up of the guests during that first 60 min. The answers get more lengthy and articulate. And the guest gradually becomes more engaged and lively. That's gotta be a big part of your success lex.
Unfortunately for this talk we only get another 30 minutes of the good stuff, and then it's over.
Kurzweil's track record and optimism is inspiring - solve 1% of a problem and progress becomes exponential
Thats not how life works for regular people, maybe for the ones with selective perception-
I love this! It seems like another way of saying to get started, however imperfectly, and then you have something to build upon.
@@ArmaGeddon-iu1vvmaybe you’re the one with selective perception
@lexfridman your interview style shows so much respect and care for your guest work and life. WE NEED MORE OF THAT IN THIS WORLD! we appreciate you brother!--- np
This is possibly my favorite episode so far, I listened to the entire thing and was left wishing it was twice as long. Definitely in my top 3.
which are the other two?
What are the other two?
Where are the other two?
The other 2?
I think Joscha Bach has been his most fascinating guest ;)
Finally... Ray got stuck giving the same talk in every video. Now he has someone intelligent asking him real, dynamic questions so I get to hear new things.
@@amoeba8888 disagree with you on this one, there is lots of new info here
I’ve had that ‘let’s talk’ thing. I didn’t take it up - why are they trying to hook up via WhatsApp does anyone know?
@@nonfictionone those are bots or scam centers (probably Indian or Russian) trying to get you into an encrypted chat where they can try to take your money. Ignore those.
@@Larry321ness Thanks very much
There's nothing intelligent about Ray Kurzweil, he is just the average trans-humanist materialist moron, with some academic papers
Glad to have lex interview this man. Tried to watch neil degrasse tyson interview him and of course he just talks over him and interrupts arrogantly and obnoxiously.
I hate Tyson. He's gotten so famous that he's come to believe his own bullshit. The dude is a quack
True about Neil
ADHD + Ego lol
neil should keep his mouth shut. he's a narccisist. he suffers from a Sagan inferiority complex
Eveeytime I see this type BS copy pasta comment about NdGT, I genuinely appreciate the fact I know I can just hate someone without any shred of doubt.
In 80s and 90s, "the experts" called him mad.
In 2000s they called him eccentric.
Now in 2023 they are listening and taking notes of his mathematical predictions based on the exponential. I hope he can survive to watch his Singularity💪👊
Or maybe Ray has already come from the future, sounds legit for me haha.
No one can predict the future and whoever says something specific about the future is a liar
@urveabak2025 of course, you can not, but other people have the necessary tools to do it very, Very well.
@@urveabak2025Heureusement qu'il n'a rien dit de spécifiques.
@@urveabak2025your predicting the future by saying no one can predict the future
@@jabster58 thank you. Different perspective.
The legend himself! Thanks for bringing him on Lex!
It's that guy from the Juice Rap News - Singularity track featuring Alex Jones!
Kurzweil is an extraordinary person and I sincerely hope that he can live long enough to the point where science can extend it indefinitely. I hope it's nothing, but I had to speed up the video 1.25X to hear him speak at the same pace as before.
Kurzweil's optimism in a world that seems so bleak these days is so refreshing and life-affirming. Thanks, Lex, for sharing these great conversations with us.
It only seems bleak because people like to look for the negative things in the world. Negative media attracts more people than positive one due to how brain works in most people and therefore people have to deliberately search for good news to find it. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is.
With the media becoming nothing more than an extension of government, and only when one party happens to be in power, is worrisome to me. Imagine having no choice to switch said propaganda off, and having that propaganda with a feedback loop that provides info back to the originator as to whether or not you 'fully' understood the meaning. This does not end well folks.
Optimism in transhumanism is that something that we should feel also?
@@neillatore6975 it is a proven fact that you can get college students to sign anything, including a petition to sterilize themselves to "save the planet"
@@neillatore6975 Better than the alternative
I love this podcast because it helps me learn. Not in the sense that I regurgitate the ideas expressed, but in the sense that many ideas are fuel for two, three hour think sessions where I introspect and ask myself questions. In my attempts to answer my curiosities I find more intriguing questions and thought pathways to explore and grow. For my birthday I would like to have an open philosophy session with Lex. Could be about time travel, the meaning of life, the future of technology, the existence and presence of God, the past as a blueprint for the future, anything. Since becoming a parent, watching my son fight cancer at 4, and my life changing overnight multiple times I have learned that there are very few people who wish to explore the beauty and horror beyond the mundane aspects of life. Lex, you do that in this podcast and I am glad to have found it! Progress is the fruit of curiosity, not of the mere passing of knowledge.
Maybe create a channel and find others to interview and discuss these ideas. And interact with the commenters. When these channels go pro, they stop engaging.
Had chills the other day remembering this guys predictions and catching up on the latest in AI development recently. No matter how otherworldly his predictions seemed I now believe he is underestimating how quickly this change is going to hit us.
Even Ray Kurzweil predictions looks slow now, and that guy is a Genius.
I read articles in about 2000, in which one Liam Lacey speculated on modern man’s dilemma or ability to adjust to life in the year 1000 if suddenly transported there. His conclusion was that it would not be terribly difficult. But then another writer, Spider ( Spyder?) something - forgot his last name - speculated in kind on modern man if planted suddenly in the year 3000. His conclusion was it would be impossible. No surprise there. And the kicker was that a main change would not be gradual, but rather occur within 50 years. So 2000 plus 50 - by 2050. In other words, about the same as predicted by Ray Kurzweil.
I wish I could get a hold of that writing. If anyone, by chance knows, please comment, thanks.
@@azhuransmx126 Guys I'm from the future. Exactly 8 months away from your comments. And astonishingly AI is growing in reverse, future LLMs will need to do more things to compete with GPT4 and 3.5. Read the open ai blog post. Here we are with Kurzweils predictions being on course AGAIN.
But OP still seems right, if AGI happens in 2029, there's no way singularity will happen way later in 2045. More like a month or a year away from that.
@invaderg3332
2029 AGI = reaches consciousness and begins the Human Massive Replacement in All Fields.
2045 ASI = The Singularity. Humans lose all control about WTF is going on. If not augmented, we will not understand anything, just like chimps can not understand our civilization.
This is 96 minutes of Lex trying to get Ray to laugh...and I love it. I watch these podcasts pretty much in order, but this one warranted a skip ahead. Thank you Lex and Ray!
Yep, I have to say. Another 30 minutes or longer would have been easy to watch.
"34:12" lol
@@evanmargol3408 yes I agree I could have listened to much more of this conversation. Lex, give us a day with Ray!
You missed out. Ray is a beautiful soul. He says a lot by not saying too much
Read his book at 17 when it came out. Even though I can't fully agree with this almost religious form of transhumanism, I can't deny that Ray's book has been quite influential for me and the way to think about the future of humanity.
Thanks for all the interesting guests, Lex!
I cannot even express in words articulate enough to convey how grateful I am to Lex Fridman for his DECISION to create this channel. Brother, you filled a void in me that I couldn't even fathom I had but only through hind sight after every single episode as you and your guest leave me smiling and left wanting more! Best time spent on youtube BY FAR is on your channel and I will do so as a loyal fan for the rest of my LIFE!!! THANK YOU LEX!!!
Mr. Kurzweil is a great and noble optimist who can rarely be found among us downer physicalists.
Lex Thank you for what you are doing! These are some of my most favorite topics. I too was born in USSR, and grew up there until its collapse. Love your podcast brother! Спасибо от души и сердца.
Hi Roman, I think this is very limited talking. I live in europe and I am a scientist in the medical field. We are very limited in thinking and consiousness. Russian people and scientists are open in more levels of conciousness , especially in the non fysical world. I have very much respect for this kind of russian thinking. This type of talking is very stupid, you should know this. 😄
Lex, I love listening to Ray, but you were so thoughtful and insightful as an interviewer! You not only asked him questions I would have asked, but ones I hadn't even thought of yet. I was like: yeah! What about that??
Keep up the great work, you're really great at this!
Thank you for making this one. It was well worth the time to listen/watch you and the legendary Ray Kurzweil on a sunny Saturday afternoon.
Lex has a beautiful mind and deep intuition into human thought and behavior as well as emotion. It allows him to be a most perceptive interviewer. Ray has an exceptional ability to reason and project the answers to those questions out into eternity. Beautiful! When asked the most important thing, he answered, “Love”. John Lennon said, “all you need is Love”. Christ said, “ In the end, these three remain, ( indicating perpetually) Faith, Hope, and Love, the greatest of these is Love.” I think the content of the above interview is the most enduringly important content I’ve ever heard on the meaning of life. My hat is off to Lex and Ray!!!!
Lex you’re a legend for bringing this man to a podcast, can’t think of anyone else who could pull this off!
Thank you for getting this interview done and put on record.
"do you have that in you? that kind of light that shines?" beautiful lex- knowing that music points directly at beauty makes you a pro!
I have no negative things to say! Lex, you were great as usual. Your quest was as enjoyable to listen to and way above my 9th grade education but I try to understand as much as I can and greatly appreciate his sharing his wealth of knowledge.
The education system today, does not make you smart or better prepared for today and the future. So keep on progressing and learning any way that works for you.
No negative things to say, and no criticism. This guy is a sell out.
The Singularity was probably the most monumental book I ever read. It changed how I looked at the world forever. Awesome interview!
@Rachel B. Well AlphaGo doesn't use a premade database of moves to beat players, it instead plays against itself trillions of matches until it finds the best way to beat itself and then it beat humans. Evolutionary algorithms was used by moderna to make vaccines and they are being used to make art and to make machines and solve problems.
What does Ray Kurzweil about the zero-sum game in this multipolar world? Will it affect technology growth? Do you think China and ASEAN will get together to fund research when they are threatened by Western military?
@Rachel B. why do you doubt that? Humans had no source of information 5000 years ago. Now look how much information we've built on top of that. When computers surpass the reasoning ability of humans, they're gonna discover anything that can be discovered at a rapid pace. Human brain isn't that special when it comes to reasoning and learning imo. But when it comes to emotions and consciousness... yeah it's fascinating
Engines of creation was also an amazing read
@@aoeu256 it's an accelerator if anything. I doubt it. I don't think any publicly funded research announcements matter at all. Everything you read about military/energy/AI in particular (world changing tech) is irrelevant. We already have the next 20-30 years of tech on a slow drip to society when needed. The law of acceralating returns continues.
Finally!!!! This is what we need! I wish Ray to live up to his predictions, with all my heart. And I hope that everything will be as he said. Thanks Lex.
I think his predictions are very optimistic because he's old and he wish to still be alive when technology will beat death..I hope he's right but who knows.
@@ori1676 He won't live to see his predictions come true, yet they will come true.
Hey lex, I know you know this, but excellent interview! I could relisten to it quite a few more times, and it baffles me how you can consolidate so many informed questions in a tight conversation like this.
I love Ray. I watched everything with him, and have seen him repeat himself a lot. His work is amazing, but he tends to do that. This interview really brought out a lot of interesting ideas and aspects to his thinking that I have never heard. Thanks a bunch Lex, you are the best. Literally, the best podcast.
So amazing to see/hear Ray Kurzweil here - I first heard of him through "The Singularity is Near" and I loved his optimistic and exciting view of the future. I can't wait to read the upcoming book!
Hi Susie. Why are you stuck in the material artificial word? I alway's thought that the feminin mind could reach much further than that. 😃
Yeah, the book was a good read. However, today I think that it could take another century or more, until "yes virgin, no will, no qualia" AI can convincingly deceive experts that it has first-hand experience of living as a man or woman, instead of rendering a digest of recorded human experience found on the internet - i.e. pass the Turing test.
Of course, that's not a requirement for the majority of work in the field.
@@DarkSkayHaha you’re way off.
@@DarkSkayhow were we leaving 100 years ago? How much progress was made in ai and tech the last 10 years? Think ahead.
Truly amazing episodes lately Lex keep up the great work ❤️
I hope Ray can make it to the Singularity. What a great mind.
The singularity. lol..... are we all falling for that .... The Great Hope. I would bet on the bow and arrow for survival over that AI bollox. Nice one mate !
It just means there will be one place for all your misinformation ! Yippy. Take care bro.
Ray Kurzweil is one of the best visionaries & futurologists of our time. He even founded Kurzweil Music Systems together with Stevie Wonder & built one of the first digital synthesizers in the 80's.
Damn Lex you are really knocking it out of the park with these.
Lex, my favorite part of this interview is Ray’s optimism on the future and examples of why. Thank you for doing what you do.
What if Ray is from the future and is actually the sentient AI?😅 sometimes his voice sounds like that a little bit. Loved this episode so much. Thank you Lex! You are by far the best now.
I've good suspicions on this, but what do I know, I'm clinically mad.
This reminds me of that time when half the population blamed Bill Gates for warning that Covid might be coming 😂 I guess he'll become the villain eventually too
A class five civilization would be able to send information back in time
I was waiting for so long for this interview, since i saw his documentary singularity i never stopped admiring his view on the progress we do on technical engineering
Good one Lex! I’ve been aware of Mr. Kurzweil since the 80’s, played his instruments and read his books. Thank you for being you and doing such thoughtful interviews!
What guitars?
@@jasonblack6142 Keyboards
I've been eagerly waiting years for this interview and was not disappointed. My only complaint is that it wasn't five hours long. I hope Ray can come back soon.
Ray really glossed over the economic disparity question. It’s not the lack of dispersion of the technology that causes the economic inequality, it is the ownership of the platforms and data. He answered the question spot on by stating plenty of homeless folks have cell phones.
My guy Ray Kurzweil is the GOAT of prediction. I've based a large portion of my life based on his predictions. Hats off to you Raymond.
200 years off!
Some people never know of they did something worth it in life. You already know you wasted yours. Based your life off this fool. So sad dude. Hopefully you didn't reproduce.
like what?
Law of accelerating returns
Absolutely but what will win my fullest respect is if he just loses the hairpiece. It's so obvious.
Thank you for choosing the most interesting guests! So good. Loved this one.
Excellent interview, congratulations Lex, Ray is very inspiring and makes us think about many interesting aspects of our short existence!
I'd love to hear his thoughts at this length on the LLMs that have burst forth since ChatGPT was released.
ChatGPT (or at least public filtered version of it) is nothing but way less reliable, more articulate Google search engine. When Altman said it's good in doing impression of being something great, it was not fake modesty.
£ This^
There is so much with tech that is being suppressed at the moment. I am still clueless on many aspects of it. Would be interested in hearing more about a lot of the tech that is waiting on the wings.
Calm down people and enjoy what ever life you have left. Where things are heading may sound exciting but none of it will be for your own good. Now is all you have, so enjoy
I remember when I first read a book by Ray Kurzweil, when I was 14. I was passionate about subjects related to technology, programming and futurism. When I read his books, I realized that we spoke the same language, a language that I didn't use to talk to anyone, because I hadn't met anyone who shared my fascination with technology and the future of humanity. I've read all of his books since then, and today I'm a professional programmer. I hope to help build this amazing future, even if I'm a small cog to make it work.
Yh, and we all hope you guys won't destroy the world instead 😂. Fingers crossed I guess.
Jesus, what an interview. I am gobsmacked. Well done. Mind blown.
This is the best thing I have seen on TH-cam in a long time. Thank you for sharing it with us.
This is amazing. We need to hear that the futur is bright, so it can influence to get the singularity achieved with fewer probabilities on having obstacles to reach it ! Thanks Lex for freely showing this conversation, with Ray's the brillant mind.
Waited SOOOO long for him to be in this show. Forever grateful that you were able to bring him on. Awesome stuff!! He will be in history books when singularity comes.
I’ve been listening to Kurzweil since I was young. His predictions aren’t always right, but he never fails to get me excited about the future
This podcast came out with chatgpt 2 years ago, I've listened to it many times
This brings back great memories and how far we have come!
We are ahead of rays predictions
I would give my left pinky toe to hear Lex do a 3 way podcast with Ray Kurzweil and Elon Musk.
There is something cool about group conversations and the inter-mixing that happens John - the Venn diagram of 2 people is neat, but the combination of 3 can bring something new.
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seconded!! I'll contribute one of my earlobes
Neither have much useful information to tell us. They're not taken seriously by the really clever guys like Bach, Aaronson or Jordan.
Truly one of the most brilliant, high level intellectual, and enjoyable interviews I’ve ever had the pleasure of seeing and listening to. Tyvm Lex. You started out as a great interviewer, and you’ve evolved these past two years or so, into something amazing. All my respect and admiration always.
EXCEPT when he has somebody like Oliver Stone on and SOLELY takes Stone's word on EVERYTHING without the tiniest of push-backs. Quite interesting to see, I wonder what his reasoning was for that one (since he is admittedly self-critical).
He started out as a rather poor interviewer, but because of his deeply sincere character we stayed to watch him grow. And today he truly is a great interviewer.
@@voiceofavet8277 Not true. Lex has to respect the interviewees. Lex is not your personal social justice warrior, who wields a sword for your exact tastes in your takes on reality.
So... he can stab a guy you possibly have issues with ...and then lose maybe 25-50-75% of his potential pool of people to have on the podcast, by being a jerk-ass who beats on his guests. That's grade school major media television hacks who do that, as they are slaves to the given oligarchy who owns and directs their propaganda channels.
Which is why it is important to have people like Oliver Stone saying all he wants on the podcast and to respect all guests on the podcast. Otherwise it will be just like all the other mudslinging partisan political tool garbage level shit shows out there.
@@vanderlubbe7791 I understand your point, dude. I just witnessed him completely let Stone run the show in that episode, and many episodes he challenges his guests. I'm not looking for what you described above. Not DISRESPECT, but engagement and challenge.
Great interview Lex! Hoping to see some interviews in the future about NDE's...people looking down at their bodies, listening to discussions between doctors that were later verified to have occurred, then having experiences seeing their relatives and being comforted by that connection. Doctor's and researchers hear these stories constantly and don't know what to make of them. Losing a loved one is such a difficult process ❤ My heart goes out to anyone in that situation right now
Interesting book: After. Written by a doctor who spent years investigating this.
1:15:07 I can’t express how privileged I feel being allowed to sit in on your conversations Lex. You are a true gift!
One of the greatest interviews ever.
World class interview Lex but why not four hours?!?! He has so much knowledge and experience about AI, nanotech, longevity, I would’ve asked about his work at Google and the progress he’s seeing in AI and longevity.
Like with Noam Chomsky, a long podcast might be tiring for him. I'd love to hear more, too, but he does seem to be someone who gets to the heart of his message very succinctly.
Can only imagine he getting on a bit and stamina is a consideration. Not easy to talk for 4 hours.
What an awesome surprise for this Saturday morning 👍💯 Thanks Lex
Ray is a one of a kind visionary who will be looked back upon as one of the formative figures who ushered the human race into a better tomorrow. You have to dare it to do it, and the singularity will all teach us that our potential is far more than we could have ever imagined. Thank you, Ray
Thank you for these enlightening conversations! I hope you're enjoying your travels 🙏🏼
Lex, thank you for this excellent piece. Full of humanity, empathy, and great values.
Ray should be a regular. I had been waiting for this interview for YEARS
Lex is a great interviewer. Very interesting and polite.
One of the best podcast in English, completely awesome
Complete gem! I am so grateful that you were in such great shape for this talk Lex!
Gem of a conversation.
One of the very best! I would like to hear lots and lots more about how he is extending his life (food/pills/exercise/daily routine).
Ray looks younger today than 5 years ago and I’d like to hear him give much much more information about that.
Ask him to give a few examples more about his unconventional truths.
Very very good podcast! Thank you!
Probably TRT, Rapamycin, Resveritrol, Microdosing, Stem Cell, Vitamin I.V., Cannabis Oil, Disease Removal Nano Bots, Frequency Therapy, etc etc etc
If you want something simple then take Lipo NMN and Lipo Resveratrol from Renue by Science. Be careful of buying NMN from Amazon, tests have shown they contain very little to no NMN. Renue is one of the original companies and are trusted (and no I don't work for them I'm just a customer passing on my findings). BTW the "Lipo" part allows it to survive stomach acid so a lot more of it can be absorbed, it used to be a pretty big problem, so you don't actually need as much Lipo NMN as plain NMN, since its much more effective per mg. You can also take sublingual NMN which absorbs into the bloodstream via the mucous membranes under your tongue (so it doesn't need the Lipo coating), but for me taking a pill is faster and easier.
Most definitely does not look younger. He has physical habits ang characteristics of someone in their 80s. He believed that red meat and animal proteins in general were toxic. A diet of supplements and leaves won't keep you vibrant into old age. It's possible to be physically and mentally nimble into 70s and 80s and he isn't a sign of that
Lex your podcast is awsome. Your guest are right up my alley, and your ability to conduct an entertaining and deep interview is superb.
I've always been very skeptical about Ray's ideas since I first heard them a decade ago. I still am, but at least I've learned enough about the topic to know that I have no idea what I'm talking about now.
This video has such a great quality. But the interview was not as deep as I would expect from this phenomenal person. You must interview him again and go deeper into some of the things you touched, like his way of inventing, where he was in the past few years, his ideas about how to create a mind, about writing and more...
not sure that d e p t h is gonna emerge from a man who dyes his ageing hair and thinks that the iphone makes people smarter
I was standing right next to Ray and he had an approachable vibe, but I was so involved in another conversation with someone else that I missed a priceless opportunity to get to know this great and good man. One of the major regrets of my life.
I love this conversation. I've read The Singularity is Near several times. It has helped shaped my view of our wonderful potential future. Looking forward to the sequel.
Yeah, the book was interesting. However, today I think that it could take a very long time, until "cog humour, yes virgin, no will, no qualia" AI will be able to deceive experts, who also get better in the process, that it has first-hand experience of living as a man or woman - instead of rendering a preset language model and digest of recorded human experience found on the internet - i.e. pass the Turing test.
Of course, that's not a requirement for the majority of work in the field.
I'm SO glad to see a new interview with Ray! REALLY hope he stays healthy and get to see this stuff happen.. (same goes for myself lol)
I used to question whether his predictions would just keep shifting further out.. But lately things are seeming even more on track for the 2029 date than I ever thought we would be. We're already seeing AI chatbots nearing the ability to pass the Turing-Test, so by 2029 it'll probably be undeniable. I think there's a VERY good chance the 2030s will be seen as 'the decade of the Singularity'.
Right, if we ignore the myriad of growing existential threats that could easily interrupt that technological growth.
@@tomatom9666 There have been existential threats in the past, and they haven't interrupted technological growth. Of course, it's up to us to not realise a downturn.
Awesome Lex, one of my most favorite persons! I'm excited to listen as always
1:13:00 in - Copyright issues for REPLICANTS?! - mind BLOWN by this whole talk... WOW!! LEX, this is ONE of THE BEST interviews on this subject I've ever listened to! - Your questions at the end were absolutely AMAZING!!
Ray Kurzweil trailblazed the curiosity of my youth in SciFi turned reality. Awesome guest, Lex.
I have been waiting for years for this conversation. You are doing great work Lex.
Lex inadvertedly made Ray contemplate his mortality quite a few times in this podcast. Obviously Lex meant no malice behind it, but I giggled each time.
I just started watching.
May be I’ll put timestamps on moments you observed
Probably Lex Best Interview so far !!!
Thanks Lex and Ray
I like how you're gradually getting through the guests on that Future of Life Institute discussion.
Speaker: Max Tegmark: ✅
1. Elon Musk: ✅
2. Stuart Russell: ✅
3. Bart Selman:
4. Ray Kurzweil: ✅
5. David Chalmers: ✅
6. Nick Bostrom: ✅
7. Demis Hassabis: ✅
8. Sam Harris: ✅
9. Jaan Tallinn:
Two left to go!
Hassabis 'Life' ahhahah
Good one.
That sounds like a great discussion
long time fan of Ray Kurzweil, imo one of the most prominent futurologists of our time. thanks Lex for having this awesome person on your podcast!
i was searching for the tool Mr. Kurzweil mentioned - the one which summarizes the 200000 books and gives you answer - does anybody know the name of the tool? he said it's public, but i can't find it somehow.
I also had this question. Did you manage to find anything?
@@InsaneMosaic unfortunately not
I am guessing it's ChatGPT at that point?
@@kirilangelov9752 apparently yes. crazy how 4 months ago we thought it could be cool to have something like this, and today we already casually using it.
We've also totally stagnated the amount of growth in wages vs productivity making it necessary to have more of a nuclear family engaged in full time work to support a family. Really overlooked that about job participation. Automation to this level could still have a very different effect than previous periods.
Since the 1950's our technology has increased and improved a load, but sadly our society, morality and standard of living has been going backwards and hasn't improved at all
@@mikesully110 This is subjective. History is reflected on as better times because life is hard, but there are more benefits we simply take for granted, it’s easy to look past struggles (such as modern medicine) which have such an enormous impact on family life by allowing additional decades one can spend with loved ones.
Pretty much have to have two incomes just to make enough to own a house. Even if you don't want a relationship..
@@mikesully110 They covered this to a degree and I think the consensus is our standard of living increased dramatically. Imagine going to another country 25 years ago, or just finding your way around, or finding someone to go on a date with, or making a long distance friend, or learning any new skill, etc. Most things were a lot more difficult for a lot more people than they are today.
@@iSOBigD Is that really true though, 25 years ago to go on a date I'd likely have a high school sweetheart instead of everybody being so wrapped up in their phones, in my parents day everyone married their high school sweetheart near enough; today people are always on their phones looking at the "better option". Yes learning a new skill is easier but that doesn't make your quality of life easier if you could get by without those skills just fine in the 50's (e.g. a high school dropout could buy a house, car, and provide for a family on a factory earners wage)
The variety of life is what's important. Maintaining that is what we're here for. You will play in the natural environment like never before.
Lex, have you looked into translating your podcasts into different languages? Would be a great way to more easily share these magical conversations around the world.
I believe Ray created a machine a while ago that translates many languages automatically
Lex is at his gleaming best here. I can't think of anyone else who could interview such an eminent intellect to an original, illuminating result.
You are such a gem Lex. Thank you for conducting these priceless interviews!
It’s hard to find anything to say. Wow. I have never been exposed to this type of thing before and found it mind blowing thinking. It’s incredible to know about people like this. Thank you for bringing it to this older man’s attention. Something else to explore. 🇦🇺🇦🇺
WOW! I remember seeing an interview with Ray years ago and his theories and predictions sounded so wild... it's even more wild to see how his foresight is fast becoming our reality! Thanks Lex, a great chat!! 😎 👍
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I love Ray, he's brilliant and always seems straight up!! Definitely someone on a short list I look up too
"I'm convinced therefore, it's fact!"
-Ray Kurzweil
Keyboard maker confusing his own hubris tech press.
He’s playing the part now of mister lover of humanity when his life’s work is aimed at a post human world where humans are simply droids and and techno shamans serve the desires of elites . Same story as it’s always been . Ray seems to equate intelligence with the ability to access information but to me it’s the ability to integrate and understand that information. How much smarter are we than the Egyptians the Greeks etc… if a smart phone is out great claim to fame .
I know, right? stoopid humans
Most of what Kurzweil said in this podcast I've heard him say before. TBF the redundancy gets to be frustrating, and boring. But there was a different emotional tone to this interview than with anyone else. It started off the same, thoughts, predictions, charts etc. But Ray noted at the end that Lex had great insight into him as a person. He brought out the humanity in Ray Kurzweil. Something both Ray and the audience very much appreciated. Great job Lex!
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