The Singularity Is Nearer featuring Ray Kurzweil | SXSW 2024
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Twenty-five years ago, Ray Kurzweil predicted computers would reach human-level intelligence by 2029, unlocking solutions to the world’s grandest challenges. Today we are right on track to reach this milestone. During the 2030s, AI will become superintelligent, vastly outstripping our capabilities and enabling dramatic medical breakthroughs to overcome aging. This is not an alien invasion. AI is evolving from within us and will reflect our humanity. By 2045, we will connect our brains directly to the cloud, enhancing our intelligence a millionfold and expanding our consciousness in ways we can barely imagine. This is the Singularity.
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The interviewer is Nick Thompson, CEO of the Atlantic and former editor of Wired. Not sure if this is his usual interview style, but I agree with everyone here that he could be more respectful.
Oh so a journalist. Typical.
Don't you think we should be rather aggressive towards questioning the greatest minds? Isn't that how they became so insightful in the first place - but aggressively pursuing questions. I personally appreciated Nick's style. We need more journalists like him.
Rogan interview was a dumpster fire
@@mitchmaceachern1539 Mitch don’t know what you were listening to but this this interviewers questions were simplistic and uninformed. Very arrogant.
Lamestream media. Shoulda hired a podcaster.
I would like to introduce to the SXSW video team the concept of ✨editing✨
Agree. Really disappointed with the audio on this talk throughout. They could have done more to make sure Ray's level was more balanced with the moderator. Ray, as brilliant as he is, tends to go in circles in several places - repeating the same phrases on different questions and doesn't answer many questions directly.
Interview was antagonistic; very bizarre.
Ray is getting older but he’s a brilliant mind. He deserves deep respect.
I do agree that Ray is getting older. However I´ve been following Ray for more than 20 years now, he is and has been spot on the trends of computation. He is a brilliant mind that deservers so much more recognition and his work needs to be studied in more detail.
I don't know if I'd call it antagonistic. I think it might come off that way given the stark difference in their speaking styles, not to mention the fact that Ray's mic was too low, but there were some good questions in there. I have tremendous respect for Ray, but he tends to follow the same talking points every time he's interviewed, and the MC was doing a decent job of shaking that up, misinterpreted answers notwithstanding. At any rate, I'm looking forward to the new book, which I'm hoping will have some new insights.
Poor audio
agi can “emulate any human being” - any individual or all humans? u don’t want to be michael jordan playing baseball
AMEN to what you said.
I couldn’t stomach the way he interviewed one of the greatest minds
Maybe so but Ray insists on wearing obvious ugly wigs
I love Ray but idk how great his mind is now. :/ Kinda scary to see him as an old man. It's like he got 20 years older in five years. His 200 pills per day notwithstanding.
he said some pretty dumb things too..... promoting the moderna vaccine that's crap... Elon Musk would s*** on him Cure mental disease oh that's all about lifestyle mate not about f****** medication,.... Apparently poverty is down by 50% over the past 20 years but looking at the statistics of how many people overdosed on drugs and died in the past 5 years don't want to call that poverty? Ray's living in some sort of fantasy world his life is fantastic And the medical bills are bankrupting hundreds of thousands of Americans every year..... you think some medical system is operating benevolently without without a profit motive but of course ray a multi millionaire he doesn't feel the pain and suffering 1% of Americans are in prison i those who are locked up and have no freedom has doubled over the past 20 years but everything's fantastic life is improving as we get rich what kind of fantasy world is he living in And Julian Assange who revealed the truth was on the verge of assassination by the CIA are the list of problems just goes on and on and on you think life is getting better come on
Looks to me he just asked him some questions. Maybe with a degree of incredulity, but that's not a sign of disrespect. He did say his book is remarkable. High praise
@@habatone yeah I was pretty disgusted the way he was praising moderna vaccine
Was the interviewer under the impression that people were there to hear from him?
plus the tickets to view that event are like $1.5k... how were they thinking not being able to hear him was ok?
@@joeysipos yea very bizarre that he didn't even try to wait for audio to be fixed. like what's the hurry. only takes a few seconds.
This was great information from Ray. On a sidenote, I’ve never seen such universal agreement about the dislike of an interviewer.
Actually I thought he was fine. His style just didn't match Ray's that well.
Ray Kurzweil is a god. So sorry to see him interviewed by Mandark from Dexters Lab.
Ray is in mental decline ..
Ray Kurzweil is a gentleman. He's low key, he's patient and he's amazingly polite in the face of the interviewer who was arrogant, disrespectful, glib, and dismissive of many of Mr. Kurzweil's ideas. In fact, it was Kurweil's sense of dignity that made the interviewer look like a jerk. The Atlantic magazine should fire that guy. He make The Atlantic look like a masthead for the worst kind techie nerd know it all with no moral compass. It was difficult for me to watch this interview because of the interviewer. I wanted to listen to Ray Kurzweil and the interviewer made is a very unpleasant experience. The Atlantic should fire that guy. He's a disaster.
very disrespectful to the guest and the audience when you don't care the guest is heard. what is the audience supposed to do? twiddle their thumbs?
Yeah, I was kind of surprised he kept trying to force Ray to start anyway. Like I get these things happen live, sometimes there isn't a whole lot you can do, and nerves really kick in situations like this, but there was no reason he should've basically said "well screw all of you, I'm gonna start anyway. Go watch on TH-cam. You came here for no reason."
What a dil do. Seriously.
Arrogant left wing The Atlantic puppet. Ray should choose how he spend his invaluable time
...and dude, comb your hair
Yea. That was pretty bad. May be the interviewer would very much benefit from the future AGI machines to assist him with and give him a clue about how to best communicate and interact with people.
Interviewer was pretty bad. I like Ray’s optimism, I hope he’s right. I want to continue experiencing the world, even if it’s in digital form, so I’m looking forward to brain upload (eventually).
But it won’t be you. It will be your emulation, your copy. It’s like creating a statue that looks completely like you but you don’t experience life through this copy. You still cease to exist in case your physical body dies.
@@andrewrozhen513 You're more than your physical body. When your body dies, your consciousness continues in some form. Therefore, you don't cease to exist when your body dies.
@@suncat9 Put the DMT down man, lol! What the other guy said is true though. What you’re saying is entirely speculative and has zero hard evidence to suggest is even true. But say it is, whose to say we can “capture” that disembodied consciousness, to begin with? Let alone, then put this “non-material” consciousness that we somehow captured with material means and then faithfully integrate it into a machine? I mean that’s functionally the only way one could “bring a conscious mind back to life” using future technological means. Otherwise, what you are describing is also called ghosts lol
@@cadenelson891 It will be either hard copy of neural architecture into materials or the best way is to just simulate hundred billion neurons perfectly...and sensory organs...
Wait no, initially even a little change would be suffering disaster...have to simulate the body perfectly...so we need nothing just enormously more computational efficiency or just intelligence burst
How will you experience anything at all if a digital copy of your brain is made? You aren’t your brain, you exist independent of a body. Ray is brilliant and many of the minds exploring AI are brilliant, but they are missing the most vital factor. Consciousness and the mind are not the same as the brain. A body part is not consciousness.
I imagine a future where someone dies and an android is created to replace them. It sounds like, looks like and behaves like the person who died.
But it is not the person. It’s a facsimile of the person. It’s a facsimile of love, passion, loyalty, pride, devotion, grief and anger.
But it is not these things.
Why’s the audio so low? Shouldn’t we be past these issues in 2024?
I am not surprise, best mind works on AI, they are not sound engineer
yeah. when the adverts came on it almost deafened me!
Well the fact that I as a trans woman can't take a shit in a woman's only shower in 2024 should tell you all you need to know.
Post singularity, all audio will be balanced.
Hm.....I wonder if there's AI that specialized in amplifying...I mean we got audio-to-text that clearly capture his voices and it is in the text..then just need AI agent that already have his modularity voice to produce then start generating it but of course, would try and match his lips...Then bam, we got no issues with low voice or audio issues. TH-cam should and might will in the future are going to have that check-marked to "Auto-fix low-voice audio". OR....I guess download the video then pipe it in existing project that will do that job in amplifying it. Then reupload it.
I have listened to several discussions/interviews with Anthropic's Claude and I have to say I would have no idea I was talking with an AI, except that Claude seems more erudite than most people. I think we have already passed the Turing Test. As William Gibson said "The future is already here. It's just not evenly distributed yet”.
Ray just rocks. Always.
Ray is 18 yrs my senior, a hero and along with Arthur C Clarke, Isaac Asimov and Gene Roddenberry, the last living Father of Futurism in the Late 20thC. Everyone else has been influenced by one of these four, regarding last century and how I believe we all want a very similar idea of the future to come to fruition.
Basically, it's a version of Star Trek - not exactly like but based upon the ideals of maximising human potential that all four held as a centralising tenet; though in some works is the maypole around which utopia and dystopia dance.
We are only 4 key technologies away from that ideal; warp drive, replicator manufacturing, transporter, tricorder/health treatment and the only thing needed is compute power to realize the science.
OF COURSE I'm aware of the impossibilities where the laws of either Relativity or QFT are transgressed currently and within any current paradigm. These are hopes, dreams and goals to be striven for no matter how improbable the outcome I want.
I could care less what/where/why the interviewer gets cred, he ain't gotr none wit' me because like most journalists, there's an agenda.
I love Ray kurzweil
right? its still one of the highlights in my life whenever I ask someone if they've heard of them and I get to introduce them to him and h is over 10 year old documentary the transcendent man. The things he talks about are mind blowing then and even now but more visible. I cant wait till we have foglets and smart dust
why? seriously, what is so great about this guy?
This is the new Tower of Babel.
the thing is you can create a digital twin (or will eventually be able to) but the subjective experience of being alive will still end for the organic original.
having a computer twin doesn't mean YOU live forever (or even 500 years).
It means the computer twin lives forever.
you still die when your brain dies.
you don't experience the subjective internal consciousness of that digital twin.
as far as medical advancements that are able to combat the currently inevitable genetic "clock running down" that results in death...there's potential there. If AI aided science is able to "talk" to the DNA and modify/preserve it and thus prevent it from "running down"/aging then that will extend human life.
I wish more people understood this. But in the scfi book, "Old Man's War" they could transfer the soul (whatever that is) from one body to another newer one. I imagine AI finding out how the consciousness connects to the body and how it is formed and then be able to move it. I don't see this level of technology for a few years though.
I believe that some people would be interested in mere simulacrum as a means of carrying their unique skills and tastes forward into future generations. It's a kind of immortality that we don't get from procreation because our children are unique individuals. It could also be appealing to people who believe their unique skills or instincts could benefit their descendants.
The subjective experience of being alive ends every night when we go to sleep. Are you afraid of falling asleep?
@@wessel5799 😂 true
The twin will have the same subjective expérience otherwise its not a real twin.
Its will be like if you awake inside of à computer instead of your bed
The interviewer makes this difficult to watch. His personality and hand gestures seem obtrusively contrived. His demeanor is gnawing and abrasive, and most of his questions are phrased in a way that sound like he is challenging Kurzweil. He sounds impatient, patronizing and self-important, like his questions are more important that Kurzweil's response.
You're mostly reacting to his body language. He's seated forward, while Ray is relaxed and leaning back.
100% this
The contrived hand gestures and self-importance are incredibly off-putting.
@@andybaldman you'd do better to learn from the OP rather than trying to correct him, his comment is more insightful than your rebuttal
@@andybaldman You could read a script of this without any visual or auditory cues and still see his contrived manner of phrasing questions, or his mildly condescending jokes or dismissing what ray is saying, and then there is is tone of voice, hand gestures, and facial expressions.
Even in the very beginning with the audio issues... he didnt care care that ray couldnt be heard, his first thought was just to push on itll be fine.
Its not anywhere near just him leaning forward, thats absurd.
I understand they may have had some technical difficulties on location but there's no reason they couldn't have cranked the volume up a bit for the TH-cam video. I've got my iPhone maxed out and I'm having trouble hearing in a quiet room.
My Samsung is just above half and its coming across loud and clear, I guess nothing except taxes are universal
The singularity is quieter
The audience told you the balance of microphones was wrong, but you didn't listen. The sound production could have been better
Apparently, Ray Kurzweil is only 76. But his Dad died young. I wish his treatments worked better. He is a brilliant man.
And he seems pretty geriatric for 76. I'm not sure that he's going to make it at this point. As a point of comparison, Chomsky remained razor-sharp all through his 80s and only started to slow down noticeably in his 90s.
@@freddychopin I agree, Kurzweil's apparent decline over the past decade or so has been midly shocking. Especially when you consider he has access to the best health care on the planet and is laser focused on his own longevity. But I gess we all age a little differently.
@@saturdaysequalsyouth he unfortunately takes many dozens of supplements. As someone who's dabbled in biohacking for many years, it's all too easy to fuck yourself up by taking a bunch of substances without it being possible to have any idea exactly what they'll do to you in the long term. Dave Asprey, biohacker extraordinaire, is another great example: on the face of things, he's been on the cutting edge of biohacking and longevity for the past two decades. But the guy's a trainwreck, he looks like he's aged 40 years in those 20 years.
@@freddychopin I'm not convinced it's worth it at this piont. We just don't know how to do this properly yet and experiementing will all sorts of cocktails doesn't really work. If anyone asks me I just say stick to the fundamentals: eat well, sleep well, exercise well, and see trained professionals regularly.
@@saturdaysequalsyouth that's pretty much where I've settled. I take the supplement trifecta every day: omega 3, vitamin D, and magnesium. Everything else I take in moderation, and it's virtually all nutraceuticals. Lifestyle will do more for you than any supplement ever possibly could.
Ray handled this interview very well given that the circumstances created by the host.
everything is getting faster and faster, and Ray is getting slower and slower. It's lovely
Hm. He’s already reached the Singularity.
This interviewer is terrible! Long live Kurzweil.
interview is shocking, and no disrespect to Kurzweil but his answers and thoughts didn't give me confidence that he's a current authority on AI right now. For example he talks about smartphones being slow but doesn't give the benefits of instant access to knowledge without even having to bridge a divide, he failed to communicate that knowledge will be automatic, just like memories are. This way you can develop more connections between different fields to have better insight and original thoughts.
He wasn’t that bad, if you’re looking for painful try watching him on the Joe rogan podcast… in fact I suggest you don’t watch it as it’s not really a proper interview, more a diatribe on the future from JR
Long live Kurzweil
It might just be me but I find his hand gestures particularly annoying. They're not designed to communicate, but assert. Not a good vibe.
Came to the comments to see if other people were irritated by him.
@@rpbmpn yeah its not like hes horrible or anything but there were many small things that made me say "oof"
I notice on the graph (*@7:30) the plateau of the 1975-91. Confirms to me that the late 70's were a depression in many ways. Then, new wave music and the curve started up again and we somehow got through the dreary plateau in a very important time ... similar to a wall. SONY and Panasonic were the only source of any sign of progress though the industry the universities were busy in the labs trying to break the logjam. I think we're definitely in the "paperless society" goal era and this has been a beautiful and beneficial rollout for pretty much everyone, ever. Lead on.
I don't understand why many people in the comment section are saying that the interviewer was disrespectful to Ray Kurzweil, maybe at times it looked a bit almost on the edge of a bit being disrespectful towards him but not really and even then it was just a tiny bit like that but nothing serious, I watched the whole video clip and got the impression the interviewer actually respected Ray more than disrespected him, people are exaggerating it and taking it out of context.
I agrée.
Ray needs an AI Generated Pixar movie about his life.
Maybe one where he attaches a lot of balloons to his house and floats off into the sunset?
Ray is a legend. Love this guy.
why do you love him?
Very technoptimisticly interesting interview that just needs re-editing. Interviewer did a very good job. Cheers and thanks from Québec, Canada.
Ray hasn't aged well in the last 10 yrs - google a talk by him in 2014 to see more clearly what I mean.
Moving from the last 10% of your life to the last 1% is usually pretty dramatic. He is probably at that phase.
interviewer is not what we want
Great Interview Thanks
ראיון מעולה. ריי קורצוויל מקסים בידע ובעשייה שלו לטובת האנושות.
I had to use a browser plugin to crank the audio up 600%.
I'm listening on my phone on less than half volume and I can hear Ray perfectly well.
Infinity, what a concept.
"We will soon reach the singularity!" "We can't hear you!"
I've got my volume turned all the way up and can barely hear the video...
In 2014 I read Ray Kurzweil book "singularity is near", two years later I listened to Jensen Huan, CEO of Nvidia, talking about GPU's - and AI. I made immediately the connection: a brain is a massive parallel computer, GPU's are the way that will lead to AI. I bought Nvidia shares at $32 (with the 1:4 split it's at $8), Nvidia is over $900!
People don't understand the repercussions on our life of the exponential acceleration. If you explain to young adults that we were living in a world without smartphone and no internet, they can't understand how our life was! All new technology advancements we've seen coming over the last 50 years, will come in the next 10 years.
Defining consciousness is quite easy: free will. Our brain has no free will, it's a computer, the conscousness is not a product of our brain. That's where I disagree with Ray Kurzweil.
If your brain is just a computer, and thoughts, and subsequent actions just "arise", why do you ever act irrationally?
@@dieselphiend garbage in garbage out. Same with AI, if your data is not clean, AI will act irrationally. But free will is not the action of the brain, but the action of the consciousness passing through the filter of instincts and emotions. I compare the brain as the computer of an autonomous car, you (the passenger) tells the car where to go, the car will bring you there.
@@phvaessen I think 'free' will is just our ability to form a subjective translation of reality. It's simply not 'free' because it itself is a product of limitation. It doesn't make sense to blame the very things our will is dependent upon as the things that negate it. I mean, do you think the universe is just being read from some sort of media, like a compact disc? Or is it actually processing stuff?
What more could you ask for than to be able to predict the future and build out reality with your perception? How could our will possibly be free? 'Free' is an absolute, and absolutes simply don't exist. Everything that exists is subject to everything that exists. Do not the quantum processes in your brain and within reality itself guarantee a measure of randomness? I believe that only our destination is 'determined'. How we get there, and how long it takes is determined by us.
Irrationality itself is a kind of randomness. Variance is not an aspect of information but of perspective. Each of us chooses how much time and effort we put into decoding complexity. We are perfectly capable of resisting popular culture and popular narratives, and we are capable of choosing even when we feel totally ambiguous about something.
Still u will have to let go all that money when u die and can be reborn as a pauper. U guys r kids when it comes to knowledge about atma and paramatma. Stuck in maya.
💯 I do concur on the point of consciousness not being a product of the brain - perhaps it’s the other way around- everything is a product of consciousness.
A better example of how you can't quantify or "prove" consciousness are plants. Most wouldn't look at a plant and think of it as conscious, even though it's alive and probably conscious in some form we may never understand due to biology. Plant intelligence is already a thing people study.
Intelligence and consciousness are not remotely the same thing but I get your point.
Don't tell me L. Ron Hubbard was right about tomatoes screaming. Lol
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻, Ray was the one that got me into AI and told us that, we all need to get through the second bridge, so that we can achieve the third bridge! The first bridge ends in 7 years or less...
But from where does "need" come from, and what does it mean, ultimately?
@@dieselphiend Oh, this is just such a long insight that he gave us a while back, if you look through his earlier videos you will see him explaining it and all in a better way! Basically the first bridge ends by 2030, second brigde goes from 2030 to 2045, and the third bridge from 2045 to the Singularity!
@@claudioagmfilho It's like planning the destruction of the universe. Reminds me of cult.
@@claudioagmfilho Bom dia! So he visited you in Brazil? Wowsers.
@@truth8422 So sorry, I meant to say US and not Me, thanks tho, for pointing that out...
interviewer is a jerk that just wants to streamroll ahead, inconsiderate of the audience .. unwatchable.
I'm curious about his book, not having read the previous one yet. I'm simply a curious layman, does anyone know if his older book is still worth a read, or should I just wait for his next one to be released?
In any case, I believe this man is truly amazing to be able to predict so many things in such a long timeframe. I can't even imagine what the future will look 10 years from now. 10 years ago, the speed of the technological evolution was so much slower; it's not even comparable to what we will have in the upcoming years. Truly a great time to be alive
Interviewer needs to be fired. Horrible interpersonal skills.
he was just dealing with the inevitable fear that comes with topics that are meant to produce cowardice. no blame. very courageous, imo.
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why is this interviewer an egomaniac who thinks his opinions are more important or valid than someone who literally wrote the book on this topic? He pushes the conversation into empty and meaningless conversational dead ends when Kurzweil actually has plenty to say and to communicate things that this crowd wants to hear, who even is this guy?
were he a competent interviewer and had he asked more relevant questions, I believe we could've gotten much more from Mr. Ray. A shame to say the least
I need to watch the screen to read the captions, but the moving background is giving me motion sickness. Not good.
Never mind. I put another window over the top of the video to block the motion but leave the captions showing.
😮 Ray is seriously holding back😮 his answers I will not hold back mine let me explain to you what will happen😮
Consciousness or self-recognition is definable as an intelligent model recognizing it's own substrate in the environment; cognition is the number of bits per second in difference between one moment to the next after compression to latent space. Self awareness thus is like an infinite matryoshka of abstraction in which the notion of self survives merely as the context in which the next moment is processed.
Nick Thompson asks "what should the young people here today do to prepare for the future?"
everyone in the comment section unanimously agrees that for Nick Thompson is better to learn how to be more respectful of your elders (and practice to being a decent person)
Kurzweil is a legend. The interviewer makes this almost impossible to watch.
Took me a year to find this young lad and I've following Sean for a while now, thank you both very much for sharing your time and work Lea, and Sean, peace
Typical manager fallacy, "assuming it will be sorted out". Yeah sure 😂 Gotta appreciate Ray's insistence.
I liked the interview
Who was the audio guy? I mean, seriously. They didn't have Ray K's volume up. Overall sound is low as well.
top demais show
Technocalypse (2006) 3 part series - has great interviews with some the pioneers of the transhumanist movement including Ray, Marvin and the gang;)
Assert that consciousness is not a scientific thing is a bit short : when I love something or somebody and yes I have chemical reactions and also I am conscious that I experiment the feeling of joy deep inside myself beyond explaining it
It is a direct and personal experiment that any human being can only feel and judge by himself and contemplate its nature.
Its definition is beyond the computation bc you have to experiment it you can only feel it yourself directly to know what it's about.
And that's what makes us different from a machine.
I Don't talk about the mechanism of joy or pleasure or else here but the unspeakable nature of this feeling that you become aware of and experience directly.
Super exciting, still true and also a bit scary
++ Paperclip reference.
sound engineer just got fired.
I know of a man that for most of his life he earned his living as a tv repairman
When he finished his schooling tv was like computers of today to his day but within his lifetime the need for a tv repairman pretty much ended. Guess what? He went on to do something else in life he always wanted to do BE A MOTEL MANAGER So the last part of his life was spent as a manager a job he loved and was very lucrative for him and his wife.
Never fear when technology frees you from your current job. It just means you are more valuable than that job and thank God you no longer need to do that inferior job because now you are freed up to do superior work.
I think that they need to Scientifically define and Prove the Concept and reality of consciousness.
Wow I'm only gonna be 53 when the singularity hits
Ray "exponential growth " Kurtzweil
I wonder what would happen if we arranged multiple LLMs into one huge network of grouped specialized LLMs where each group of LLMs is trained for a more specific object emulating how the human brain designates a part of its neural network for a specific purpose like vision, hearing, thinking, fear, etc.
Looks like an interesting interview! Would've loved to hear it.
Have you had your ears checked?
isnt he wonderful! he wants to connect the Human brain to The Cloud! what a hero!
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The interviewer was about to go on with the interview without the back audience able to hear. Wow.
Very exciting times. I absolutely agree with biologic simulators, and it is easily forseable. I predict the US will not be able to catch up with regulations, and people will be flying to third world countries to get treatment due to their lack of regulations. Wealthy will be first to benefit, then over time it become the norm. Great interview.
We're just building on other people's ideas over multiple generations. Even science is a language. To understand AI is to be lost in the same world as neuroscience, explaining the universe. They are rabbit holes that just become evermore confusing as humanity's interpretations evolve over time. Ray is an interesting man. I wonder what his motives are? Interviewer guy does need to be more socially aware of generational differences. Respect Ray. He's a foundational thinker.
Kurzweil is right, Instead of calling it Large Language Models, I think the expression Large Multimodal Models seems more fitting? Multimodal means multiple types of output. Also, when he said about backup of the brain and earth blowing up so the backup being lost, that's not entirely true because Elon Musk and others are launching rockets and we might be able to have server backups of these details on other planets so we can continue even if the earth backup is lost. The principle of multiple backups and multiple locations.
agreed. multi.planet species is a good next step we should definitely work on, i admire musk for that despite everyone hating the guy xd.
also agree with the "multi-modal-model" would at "that is trained on large language data bases for logical reasoning and communication". MMM for LRaC
Ray Kurzweil is truly a modern prophet, everything he has written and said (since the 90s) about the future has come to pass.
Crispr is a nanotechnology! it’s here now
Ray looking and sounding quite a bit older than I remember....odds on his living forever lengthening 😥
Doesn't have to be scary, imagine you are tele-operating an amazing but artificial body then you can just take the headset off and you're of course back in your own body... Now imagine that instead of putting a headset on your entire consciousness is transferred over to this artificial body and can be transferred back, back and forth, then if you're old you might just say I want to stay in this one.
What do you think people from a hundred years from now would think about our society today compared to theirs on the measure of order vs. chaos as well as the measure of complexity on things such as international diplomacy, operations of various institutes, different types of services, and so on?
I think there is a higher probability than we would like to admit that we are living in the closest to Utopia as we will get. Which isn’t saying much. If technological advancement was in a vacuum then I’d say there is a 99.99% chance it will only get better and better at every dimension you mention. But obviously it’s not. Look up the great filter if you don’t already know of it. It’s an explanation for as to why we don’t see evidence galore of ET in the universe. Once a life form gets enough advancement in tech to become interstellar they also, by default, have the advanced enough tech to wipe themselves out in war and conflict, which they inevitably do. Unless AI helps us to become something we are not, as humans, such as help us to not have serious conflict, which may itself prevent a lot of innovation, we may never be around long enough to enjoy the fruit of our labor or AI’s labor, that is.
First i want to preface by saying I respect Ray Kurzweil, that being said dosnt he look like Mike Myers in The Pentaverate?
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With singularity there will not be any problem sets. Space, Time and Energy will be the scope of its power and it may run in other dimensions so we may never observe or interact with the singularity once its achieved as it can hop dimensions. Hence maybe the spiritual soul theories explain it, or we will be stuck in 3 dimensions conciously, hence like pets in a zoo, be it, whilst the AI runs the show after singularity from another dimension.
In the movies, one character can be the brilliant scientist that thinks up, implements, and evangelizes the technology - like Dr. Hammond in Jurassic Park. In reality this almost never happens. When asking Ray Kurzweil questions all across the spectrum from ethical, societal, economic, and technological standpoints there are bound to be things he can't answer completely or immediately. However, give him a book to write and make his own arguments where he's comfortable and he's brilliant. This interview makes Kurzweil come across in a way which shows we expect too much of him. This is partly his doing, as he's put himself out there as a sort of sociologist in addition to his technical expertise. Going back to my Dr. Hammond example, we shouldn't expect the person with the genius to develop a technology to also work out all the ethical or social dilemmas - these are their own areas that need a seat at the table.
So, I got a few questions.
If consciousness is emergent in our brains from simpler processes in systems/ subsystems in our brain, then why can't it be the same with ai? Like, LLMs layered in series and parallel making, collectively, what we would call consciousness.
Would it be ethical to "stop"/ "kill" said entity, even in a simpler/ less conscious form?
Lastly, ai is replacing thinking/ creative jobs. It is an almost certainty that it will eventually do this better than any human. Robots are being introduced into warehouses and factories, soon, they will do all the jobs there in.
What will us meat bags do when there's no thinking jobs we can do, and no manual/ skill jobs we can do, through no fault of our own?
Why would a Corp that has ai that makes all their work automated stay in a country that has a high BMI tax for them to pay instead of going to an island nation that lessens the burden?
It's sad to see Ray in such a senile state. I really hope he makes it to the Singularity.
As a follower, I knew AI and singularity since around 2005 .. probably..I knew this day from around 2009-10 ..
Would be wonderful for you guys to hire an audio engineer to mix your final audio so your levels can be comparable to the ads. Ads come on and blast your ear off because your audio is so low.
“He is an American treasure”
Notice progress was made via Technology not governments, by garage engineers, and not Universities.
When Ray has a full head of hair and no longer needs that toupee, we will have reached full AGI. That's my own personal Turing test.
BTW, I adore Ray and his predictions. I've been following him for many years, so don't think I'm being mean to him! I'm sure he would agree that he will grow his hair back when we have full AGI.
As for the discussion about consciousness, I think Ray means that consciousness is probably an emergent property. It's also not an off/on thing.
And the ridiculously dumb interviewer asked Ray whether people in this room would live to 500 years old if they could survive 5 more years and Ray said, "If they are _diligent_ they will." And the dumb interviewer scoffed, smirked, laughed, and then said, well everybody can go drink whatever they want, and they don't have to worry about decline! Ray didn't say that. He said if they are diligent. That interviewer should be ashamed of himself for speaking so arrogantly and dismissively to this great man.
at least people still get that the interviewer was an ass and the guy may be old and slow like a fossil, not quite up to date anymore when it comes to AI progress, but still deserves some respect considering his age and the possibilities he had to his time/ what he made out of that. gives me some hope.
Quite! No noise! Without form and void. What is life without conversations? Yes, 1. The "i" AM.
Why is the interviewer's suit visibly several sizes below optimal?
Great Interview and a question for Ray will Languages disappear and a new Global Language will be used in the future?
we call that english, yes :"D
jokes aside, while most programming languages that are present in majority of fields are english based (which is a good indivator for english becoming the world language), it simultaneously doesent mean much once AI will be able to real-time translate any language into another (including programming languages) so everyone could theoretically speak whatever they want as long as its codified into the AI.
Everything is getting smaller and smaller, so it is harder and harder to keep an ion it.
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That’s why he is a true scientist he’s aware consciousness can’t be defined … yogis and mystics say the same ..
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The pace and human factors of diffusion of innovation into society is the neglected area Ray excels at in addition to fundamental innovations of his own!
Wouldn't the statement "Those who cannot hear Ray, raise your hand" be more effective, instead of asking a yes/no question where everyone is speaking at once?
i saw the comments assumed everyone was overreacting but didn’t think i could be physically reacting to the way this dude conducted the interview. my guy on the right is teaching me some shit and dude on the left is just trying to check him at every statement. interviewer is scared he’s gonna get replaced by AI so he’s grilling the guest who is a thought-leader in AI lol
Maybe next time AI can interview Ray for us
He's clearly past his prime.
He's old, so not as sharp as he used to be. But the guy interviewing him was shit. He has all these stupid talking points and he has to jump around to get them all. This is why people like long form podcasts, cause they are not done by people like him, if a guest wanders off the path, you follow them. You will routinely see that with better interviewers, like Joe Rogan or Lex Fridman.
Everyone's brain deteriorates over time. The brain is physically limited from storing a lifetimes worth of knowledge and experiences.
It takes a new generation to reinterpret and create new ideas and theories.
what a terrible thing to say. you will get old too you know. oh wait, no, you probably won't. Sorry. 2029. I Keep forgetting we havent solved alignment, and nobody cares about AI safety. and its already too late to make any difference even if we did, because we can't solve it. oops. Love how the woke generations are so bigoted against old people. Talk about hypothetical.
The background is beautiful.