Robert Harley's Listening Room Part 2: The Reference Equipment

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  • @pedrocols
    @pedrocols ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I am glad when he says "best I've ever heard" because that's just exactly what it is folks, how it sounds to his ears. Everyone's experience is different. If something sounds good or bad to him it doesn't mean it is going to sound good or bad to you.

    • @dougdavis8986
      @dougdavis8986 ปีที่แล้ว

      We're glad you're happy with your BestBuy system. Rock on Beavis!

    • @pedrocols
      @pedrocols ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dougdavis8986 I don't think Best Buy sells Magnepans Speakers or Tube amps...😉😎🎶🎶

    • @shadowofpain8144
      @shadowofpain8144 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I bet there is better chance it sounds just as good to me as it does him.

  • @JeffGlotzer
    @JeffGlotzer ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wonderful room, Robert! Here's another 35 years of you! Everything you have done and said in TAS or Stereophile have been among the most important contributions to high-performance audio! Kudos and thank you.

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much for the kind comment. I greatly appreciate it.

  • @adsph
    @adsph ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Really appreciate Mr Harley showing and describing his incredible system. Most impressive.

  • @martinbishop2966
    @martinbishop2966 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have been into this hobby for over 30 years but I never seen a system like this. Mind boggling complexity with truly reference quality equipment must make this the most high end system in existence. Pity that recordings will never realise it's true potential.

  • @AudiophileToday
    @AudiophileToday ปีที่แล้ว +35

    What an amazing system and an amazing room Robert. So glad I will never get the chance to hear it since it would probably result in my never wanting to turn my own system on again.

    • @jimnagel5611
      @jimnagel5611 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ACTUALLY PRETTY DEPRESSING AIN'T IT TO KNOW NO MATTER WHAT I DO I'LL NEVER HAVE ANYTHING CLOSE -- SHOULDNT HAVE WATCHED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE I GUESS

    • @louisxiiii
      @louisxiiii 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jimnagel5611 If you can live with used equipment, you may very well be able to afford at this level.

    • @jimnagel5611
      @jimnagel5611 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NAH - ALREADY WASTED ENOUGH MONEY ON THAT STUFF -- PROBABLY IN MY LAST HOUSE ANYWAY -- IF I COULD BUILD MY DREAM LISTENING ROOM THEN YEAH I'D PROBABLY GO FOR MORE -- BUT IN Y EXPERIENCE -- MOST OF THAT IS PERSONAL PREFERENCE & OR A HUGE WASTE OF MONEY @@louisxiiii

    • @TheDjcarlos67
      @TheDjcarlos67 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠@@jimnagel5611 a guaranteed outcome with such a negative outlook

  • @rcmanoj
    @rcmanoj 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    All the various snake oils in one epic episode !!

    • @joevento1170
      @joevento1170 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You obviously have no understanding of the limitations of digital source data as it pertains to music. I've heard a similar version of this technology designed and built by a retired satellite design engineer for Northrop Grumman a few yrs ago in Rockville MD. The system used the same design principles in converting high definition digital source music from CDs and streaming services; which created on amazing " enhanced vinyl record" sound experience. Don't bash technology just bcuz you probably can't afford it or bcuz you never even heard the sonic difference between a vinyl record and a digital recording. You obviously have a lot to learn.....

    • @rcmanoj
      @rcmanoj 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@joevento1170lots of snake oil for lots of idiots !!

  • @eightrodway
    @eightrodway ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it.

  • @johntwohy4726
    @johntwohy4726 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    RH: all five circuits are wired with the same length of 10-gauge wire so that the ground path is identical for each AC outlet. (14:20). The speed of electricity down a wire is about 90% of the speed of light -- itself about 300,000 km/s. What possible difference would a 1 meter versus 10 meter ground path make? (Or, for that matter, 1 inch versus 10 miles?) This aside, a very impressive room build, with mind-boggling equipment. More power to you!

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not the speed, is the amount of resistance in the wire. Longer wire equals greater resistance. Unequal resistance in the ground paths result in a voltage potential across the grounds, which causes current flow in the ground.

    • @johntwohy4726
      @johntwohy4726 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you - enlightening!

  • @glawnow1959
    @glawnow1959 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thrilled to see Laura Dearborn's "Good Sound" in your bookshelf! This book helped me take my first baby steps into high fidelity audio.

  • @realleescoggins
    @realleescoggins ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very nicely done Robert and Charles.

  • @rickcarlson5916
    @rickcarlson5916 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Robert thank you for sharing your system and knowledge with us. When an incredible system!

  • @taidee
    @taidee ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a music listening factory, amazing stuff.

  • @dragonkabodan
    @dragonkabodan ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dream system well done in taking care of the tiniest details 👌🏻

  • @adamkrauss303
    @adamkrauss303 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this tour. Putting aside the complex incredible technology inside, those Wadax components are works of art (as is the turntable),

  • @beyond8981
    @beyond8981 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful review - Thank you, Robert

  • @andershammer9307
    @andershammer9307 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    People who can afford it can and should own equipment like this. I have owned a high-end stereo system for 40 years. Personally I prefer the sound of electrostatic speakers and tubes and vinyl records. I have heard a few new high-end systems but have yet to hear one I think sounds better than mine.

    • @ptg01
      @ptg01 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And that is all that really matters... My understanding is electrostatic speakers can be hard to drive as the impedance can dip below 1 ohm for certain electrostatic speakers. I may be confusing electrostatic with ribbon though... Not sure how tubes work with impedances all over the map... Perhaps David Bernings legendary amps ?
      Regardless it's fantastic that you've found something that you truly enjoy and has the best sound for you ! Bravo !

    • @robertjermantowicz-uw3iw
      @robertjermantowicz-uw3iw 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have two pairs of Quad 57's and two Futterman OTL amps - a stereo Harvard Music and a pair of H3aa monos. Yes, I still listen to LP's on a Linn Sondek.

    • @andershammer9307
      @andershammer9307 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robertjermantowicz-uw3iw I have never heard Quad 57's and I would like to. I remember the Futterman OTL amps but never really listened to them. I also listen to LP's on a Linn LP12 and almost never play a CD or stream digital. My speakers are Acoustat model X with their custom hybrid direct drive servo amps. My preamp is an old SP6 Audio Research. No conventional speaker has bass as clean and tight and deep as my electrostatic speakers. Wilson speakers with their ported design can sound very colored in comparison. My speakers do everything else well also.

  • @raoulk.7934
    @raoulk.7934 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Robert for the description of such a beautiful piece of equipment. Let's listen to all of this now, shall we ? 🐦

  • @johnnycashlesscomedy8616
    @johnnycashlesscomedy8616 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had never heard of being able to alter the feedback settings in an amp. Would love to hear them. I'd love Robert to review the Iconoclast cables. They are reasonably priced and the best that former Belden chief engineer could design and use Belden's facilities to produce.

  • @kramsniggah4333
    @kramsniggah4333 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Incredible equipment and kudos to you Robert for years of reviewing. I would trust you implicitly to sit beside at the mastering desk because you clearly have 'golden ears' from years of reviewing equipment, howevera s a retired engineer I can catagogorically state that no matter how expensive/techhnical the playback equipment is it cannot create what isn't in the recording, the audiphile hyperbole of 'transparent' 'neutral' etc is't applicable to 'hi-fi'. The equipment looks fantastic (if rather ridiculous) and serves a purpose, What I simply cannot accept is the ridiculous cables, grounding boxes, plugs etc - thats where credibility becomes incredulity.
    Happy listening!

  • @3dimensionsofmusic3D
    @3dimensionsofmusic3D ปีที่แล้ว +8

    CH Precision outstanding. Basis TT gorgeous. Digital may sound great but hideous in appearance 😢. 2 outa 3 ain't bad - Meatloaf 😊

  • @averagepainter
    @averagepainter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    hilarious. the voodoo in this room puts every haitian master to shame. personally i cracked up when i saw the power supplies for the dac.

  • @jeffleigh3747
    @jeffleigh3747 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely mind blowing. Thank you, sir 🙏

  • @DBTAudio
    @DBTAudio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! Very nice and thanks for sharing!

  • @scottyo64
    @scottyo64 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing to see a system like this here in New Mexico, bravo on an amazing system sir!

  • @clivewilliams9460
    @clivewilliams9460 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is where Robert Harley has got the Upper hand on Jays Audio Lab , the Analog Science. Science of Analog. But not taking anything away from Jay. He is Awesome in his own way as Mr Harley
    is in his way. I see Robert is using the Wadax Digital. Jay will be playing with that soon. The CH Precision gear is supposed to be World class.

    • @JoãoCarlos-72
      @JoãoCarlos-72 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well There is a big difference, Jay pays for all his equipment !
      This system shown in this video is certainly almost entirely borrowed long term from manufactures in exchange for exposure and good reviews, being an TAS chef-editor opens many doors and gives the opportunity to excess and experience the best hifi gear for free. People needs to stop being naive.

  • @LeonFleisherFan
    @LeonFleisherFan ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for this interesting tour! There are several components here that I've heard in several (Swiss Precision, Wadax) or many (Wilson) systems, and whose sound has never appealed to me (e.g. Wadax for its lack of dynamics, Wilson for their dryness, midrange phase issues, and boxy bass), would be curious to hear a well curated and set up system that I might find more convincing. The room and its construction sure look nice!

  • @trevorlees1241
    @trevorlees1241 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Robert Harley -wonderful description of your superb system
    Best I heard in the US was Dr Hyman Kachalsky’s system in NY with the Hill Plasmatronics speakers etc etc
    We were up to 4-5am after one meeting at his house
    Now your system must be better or rather far better in many respects some 40 years later and with the items you have ,…
    But I think 2 things your should think about
    A.All that effort into a single dome tweeter of the Wilson speakers and I was the importer here of Wilson products for about 20 years and I do appreciate how good there best is !!
    And
    B limited overload of your phono stage on admittedly higher gain settings which with your cartridge you may not approach
    And
    The most fun would be to improve your system further and
    That would seem easiest to do at the very front
    end of the MC phono stage
    I think videos like this are really so informative for everybody in this industry
    I think a further idea would be to be able to prove how good your system is by producing a recording of some well known tracks
    One track suggestion would be
    Peter Paul & Mary ‘All My Trials’
    People could summit their record recordings and see
    You should be able to easily show your system quality for that analogue part !
    You got me thinking I should build another 6 chassis tube dual mono tube prepreamp !

    • @robertjermantowicz-uw3iw
      @robertjermantowicz-uw3iw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mr. Lees: I have one of your earlier tube preamps - black faceplate with a clear cover!

    • @robertjermantowicz-uw3iw
      @robertjermantowicz-uw3iw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree about the Hill Plasmatronics speakers - amazing!

    • @trevorlees1241
      @trevorlees1241 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi maybe you have the ‘Positive Vibrations’ preamp - could it be Hyman Kachalsky’s first purchase from me !!?
      Regards
      Trevor Lees

  • @chrisl5156
    @chrisl5156 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks Robert, this is a great overview of a great system. You should have a shootout with Michael Fremer's systerm.

    • @stimpy1226
      @stimpy1226 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does Michael framer have MBL 101 X-tremes in his Music system or is it just Jonathan Valin who has them in his system? Those are my absolute favorite speakers in the whole world.

  • @johns.
    @johns. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nicely done, and thank you.

  • @jeffkalina7727
    @jeffkalina7727 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent. You explain things well. Hope the Clarisys is coming soon.Thank you.

  • @societyofhighendaudio
    @societyofhighendaudio หลายเดือนก่อน

    Greeting from far east. Presentation well done. Thank

  • @edbrumbaugh9202
    @edbrumbaugh9202 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for the look at Roberts high-end million dollar system, always interesting to see and hear their opinions of each of their components. But .... as a career engineer and lifetime music lover I find these high end systems and "engineering" explanations of how much difference each piece/tweak makes to their listening experience to be entertaining at best. One needs look no further than the Möbius Cable Suspension System one what is probably audio quest Dragon speaker cables to see and understand that much like most articles in The Absolute Sound, from a technical perspective, is nothing more than a long winded piece of technical obfuscation and a continuation of subjective opinion. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the video, and I subscribe to The Absolute Sound, but I always marvel at the claims many of these high end companies make, without providing any technical/objective testing results to back them up ... if they had it they'd show it, it would be better marketing for them ... outside of that, it's nothing more than subjective group think. Ultimately, its your money, or the sponsors money for the long term loaners many of these reviewers have, so buy what you like, and enjoy your gear!

    • @user-ex9zm7bg3x
      @user-ex9zm7bg3x ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So if you could hear it, but not see it on paper, it's not there?

    • @DANVIIL
      @DANVIIL ปีที่แล้ว

      Invest in a dictionaryy and look up the word, "subjective". @@user-ex9zm7bg3x

    • @fluim0102
      @fluim0102 ปีที่แล้ว

      I absolutely doubt he could hear a big difference with the rack or with the type of connection for the DAC. Unless he has much better ears than most people, which could be the case. And I have definitely heard some really good systems. But at some point these people really start to believe in themself a little too much. On the channel of the Sibelius loudspeaker this guy did a blind test with some very cheap and expensive cd players on a quite resolving high end system and the listeners (all professional musicians) didn't hear nearly as much difference as you would perhaps expect. @@user-ex9zm7bg3x

    • @robertjermantowicz-uw3iw
      @robertjermantowicz-uw3iw 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree! A bunch of rich guys bragging about their latest cable purchases to their clueless buddies!

    • @robertjermantowicz-uw3iw
      @robertjermantowicz-uw3iw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I take nothing I read in TAS seriously!

  • @hesmellslikerome
    @hesmellslikerome ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man, I truly enjoy this video what a fantastic audio set up, especially the basis turntable all I can say is wow! I would love the opportunity to pick your brain about on your viewing or your equipment and how to get started. Anyhow, thanks for the video. God bless.

  • @Fluterra
    @Fluterra ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great system. The Taiko Extreme running the latest XDMS will sound better than anything with a Roon Core.

  • @rickp6731
    @rickp6731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really great system Robert !
    Have you all heard the all new IO Design Naked RS Loudspeakers yet ? 😇
    Yes they have a Dealer here in the USA now !

  • @jbsaudio
    @jbsaudio ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks Robert. Amazing system. I love the Basis Transcendence. I have a Basis 2200 with the Vector 4 tonearm and am upgrading to a Basis Inspiration with the Transcendence platter upgrade. You didn't cover your phono preamp. Are you also using a CH Precision?

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว +2

      After we shot the video I remembered that I neglected to discuss the phonostage. My phonostage of choice is the CH Precision P1/X1 that I had, but that went back to the manufacturer. I returned to my longstanding Moon 810LP. It's not nearly as expensive as the other products in the system, but it is a fabulous phonostage and a great bargain. The Inspiration is a great turntable. The SuperArm 9 is also fabulous. Our reviewer Wayne Garcia just bought one (he had owned the Vector 4) and will be writing about it in a future issue.

  • @Hifihobby
    @Hifihobby ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Highly informative video

  • @stimpy1226
    @stimpy1226 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Only very few people can own a music system like yours and build a listening room like you did… Very few.

  • @fredericmorris2931
    @fredericmorris2931 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautifully done - thanks! Did I miss phono stage (perhaps built into preamp?) and CD/SACD transport?

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're right! I neglected to include the phonostage. I had a CH Precision P1/X1 pair, but had to send it back. Now I'm using a Moon 810LP, which is a fabulous phonostage.

  • @IamtheLordofDoom
    @IamtheLordofDoom ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 12:58 ... I could just about buy that racks might make a difference to cheap asian electronics with 'biscuit tin' build quality, but those milled-from-solid components? No. It's a shame. If he'd just said he liked the look of them that would have been fine, but apparently we have it on his word that his 'state of the art' components all suffer from audible microphony... what a damning indictment of CH Precision, Wadax, etc... :(

  • @MichelLinschoten
    @MichelLinschoten ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Imagine needing all that exotic fluff , to enjoy a pink floyd record ...

  • @ashvarma2486
    @ashvarma2486 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful video Robert and TAS. Could you please share some info on how you have configured your mains from the solar panels....I believe your house is powered by solar panels? This info will be very helpful. Many thanks for sharing

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do have rooftop solar, but I haven't done anything special with regard to it powering the audio system. The solar ties into the incoming power from the utility company, so its operation is essentially transparent to me.

  • @tomhirschel8524
    @tomhirschel8524 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Wadax design aesthetics needs a re think.

    • @FOH3663
      @FOH3663 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed
      Up very close is decent, seeing the precision millwork etc., but standing back looking at it its a visual mess, something just doesn't work to me.

    • @Tacet137
      @Tacet137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it's fine since you'll never own one

    • @yulaswift2439
      @yulaswift2439 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wadax used to make kitchen appliances by the look of their products…sheesh! 🤢

    • @FOH3663
      @FOH3663 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@yulaswift2439
      That's it!
      Like a prosumer espresso machine!

    • @MichelLinschoten
      @MichelLinschoten ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Tacet137ohh so according to your logic , you can never express your opinion about something you'll never own ?! Why are you here then... Pretty sure you have an opinion EITHERway about it isn't ?!

  • @twostepped999
    @twostepped999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Forgive the troll comment since the ‘net is full of them. I have no doubts that the room treatment discussed in the last video, transformed the sound of music in this room/system in a way that any person with decent hearing would notice. Can only imagine the expense and thought that went in. However all of these doo-dads in this video/ system (grounding schemes, particular wires, knobs on the streamer that adjust this or that) I have a hard time it improves the sound in a proveable/measurable noticeable way. Perhaps in the aggregate it is “better.” (Read, different and preferred by this listener). But at what cost? It seems one is dealing in the last 1% of the system’s sound. But I guess that’s the name of the game in audio world

  • @IamtheLordofDoom
    @IamtheLordofDoom ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 7:25 he claims the Wadax can change the shape of the digital waveform *without changing the digital values * (ie 1s or 0s) and that this changes the sound output of the DAC. Does he not understand anything about digital audio? The sound is entirely encoded *logically* in the 1s and 0s - DACs and other digital circuits simply don't care about the 'shape of the waveform' as long as certain threshold values are kept to. For a guy who says he's followed digital audio since the late 80s (only a decade late...) this level of ignorance is disappointing.

  • @MJPope3235
    @MJPope3235 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fantastic system. The issue; most studies have shown that people lose 25% of their hearing by age 60. It’s ironic, by the time we can afford truly high end systems, we’re too old to hear what makes them so special.

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's a fallacy that we can't appreciate good sound as we get older. Read one of Jonathan Valin's reviews and then listen for yourself to the product he's described; he has insights that a less experienced young person would never have. Keith Johnson, the greatest classical-music recording engineer of all time, is doing his best work in his late 70s. Or think about the longevity of some orchestra conductors.

    • @v0ldy54
      @v0ldy54 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      What makes them so special is the amount of money they cost, past a certain point (that's well below the cost of that equipment) there is no way you'd be able to pick up differences in anything that's not a speaker in a blind test

    • @shadowofpain8144
      @shadowofpain8144 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The rest of your ear hears just fine. Just because some top frequencies are gone doesn't mean no sounds are good.
      You say so every day when justifying mp3.

  • @nobelstone9714
    @nobelstone9714 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome system. I just have one critical comment. Robert uses my biggest audio hate word, Musicality. It's really an undefined term and means different things to different listeners, Usually 'sounds good to me'.

  • @LivingmusicRomania
    @LivingmusicRomania ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful and majestic system....George Romania Europe

  • @Rafa-mp5mi
    @Rafa-mp5mi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Wadax DAC looks amazing product

  • @stratenboek
    @stratenboek ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Robert's system is like an F1 sports car!

    • @borisbobowski628
      @borisbobowski628 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly, its a blast for one round but you cant enjoy it on a daily basis.

  • @robertyoung1777
    @robertyoung1777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great talk! I would like to hear about your room air conditioning and dust mitigation strategies. Airborne particulate can’t be good for equipment. Dust is a hassle to remove from components.
    Humidity and temperature control are important factor to prevent static and oxidation.
    Thanks!

  • @hubertzawadzki9490
    @hubertzawadzki9490 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mr. Harley, you have all those cd’s on your shelves so what cd transport do you use ?

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't have a disc transport at the moment, but I'm looking to add one.

  • @averagepainter
    @averagepainter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my brother in law has a long haired cat. it really helps with room acoustics. i‘m thinking about getting one too.

  • @mahabkhatib9377
    @mahabkhatib9377 ปีที่แล้ว

    Robert, a great and enjoyable videos! I was hoping to chat w/you about the room setup after the Diana Krall concert in Mesa, I was w/ my wife 4 rows behind you. We enjoyed the sound and the music in the concert, the theater is one of my favorite venues. I like very much how you set up the room and the equipment.
    I’ve been using Live Vibe Audio Rhythm Platforms since last year which improved the sound of my system remarkably. Upgrading room acoustics and power source also took the sound to another level for me. I’m almost giving up on digital playback after experimenting and upgrading my analogue setup. You have to spend so much money on digital to come close to playing good vinyl, so digital is frozen for now. However, I’m interested in the Spanish DAC setup, maybe I’ll listen to it when I visit Spain again in the future.
    I hope you had a good time during the concert and your visit in Arizona! My wife loved the show and thought it was better than the previous event few years ago at Phoenix Symphony Hall. Thanks for sharing w/ us this wonderful setup!

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the note, and it was quite a coincidence that we sat near each other at the concert last week. I had not been to the Mesa Arts Center before. It was a great performance in a wonderful venue. Incidentally, I saw Diana Krall in a Marriott ballroom in 1997, part of the Vail Jazz Party co-sponsored by Genesis loudspeakers. Thanks for your comments about the room and system.

  • @oneemotiva4975
    @oneemotiva4975 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing equipment, I have my self a good setup, my like to replace and move on from McIntosh and Audioquest cables. I have a VPI direct and a EAT Fortis turntables and I just got 2 the Black Ice Fusion F360. Any recommendations in equipment from processor to amps and so on. Looking to acquire the new Altaira as well and move on from Furman conditioner/ power supplies. I do use the dragon cables as well. fantastic cables.

  • @vaneast411
    @vaneast411 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fascinating and thanks for sharing...
    hard not to look at equipment like this from a cost perspective...
    I find all of the tech working at play behind the music
    to be utterly (to use that word again) fascinating!

  • @ofir5000
    @ofir5000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this channel is
    Please show speaekrs as much as possible (:

  • @williamcampbell3868
    @williamcampbell3868 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ur...um...Gee Mr. Harley Sir, that turntable is "bling" in and of itself that it doesn't need any!! You rock, jazz and swing on man! Your system does all that and more. Thank goodness for high end audio.

  • @roadcykler62
    @roadcykler62 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much woo. I like when he said manufacturers have been ignoring the so-called noise that actually embedded in the music (but of course no description of how) but Shunyata addresses that. What Shunyata did was find yet another way to get people to spend a lot of money on something that has no objective way to determine. But yeah, that's a nice system. Lastly, if a speaker is rated from 20hZ and up, why have a subwoofer? Oh wait, I answered that with the first three words.

    • @lmff620
      @lmff620 ปีที่แล้ว

      Of course noise is embedded in the music signal; what happens when you shut down the recording? No music and no noise. It’s self-evident. What bothered me is the notion that Shunyata are the only company that thought about this way to increase profits. It’s been done before. Also, I fail to see how inserting a box in the ground path would reduce ground resistance more effectively than just using heavy gauge ground wire. But I’m not an EE.

    • @robertjermantowicz-uw3iw
      @robertjermantowicz-uw3iw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Blacker blacks when using cables made from 17th Century Japanese silver ingots!

  • @jmhodge12755
    @jmhodge12755 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you had a chance to review or hear the Alex v if so what did you think

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only at a show. Our reviewer Matt Clott reviewed the Alexx V and bought the review samples. I've just finished reviewing the Alexia V (review in the October issue).

  • @IamtheLordofDoom
    @IamtheLordofDoom ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 11:30 he claims the CH Precision line stage's power supply is in the signal path 'because the electrons that come out of it come from the PS'. LOL. No. Time to bone up on basic AC electrical theory. Really, no-one who doesn't understand the basics of electricity and electronics (and, for that matter, digital electronics) should be reviewing audio gear.

    • @peterklop9015
      @peterklop9015 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry to bring it to you, but you didn’t think this through or don’t know how amplifiers work. He’s right. As seen from the perspective of electrons; not a single electron that goes into an amp comes ever out of it again. All electrons that come out of the amp, come from the power supply of the amp. The signal that you put in doesn’t travel through the amplifier. Thinking that it does is a misconception.
      If i would try to think of an analogy it could be something like this; think of a large water-pipe with a rad in it, one end sits in a lake. If the rad rotates a big column of water would start flowing from the lake through this pipe. This pipe represents the amplifier. Next, think of a small water hose attached to a water tap and the other end that drives (rotates) the rad (this represents the signal coming from a dac or cd player or something like that, or from a pre-amp into a poweramp). The water of the hose never combines with the water of the big pipe, it just drives the rad. So you put a little bit of water in the garden hose, and out comes a big flow of water through the big water pipe. The water comes from the lake (from the power supply), not from the water tap (the original signal). Does this analogy make any sense? I just made it up 😉 (i mean the analogy, not the inner working of amps) Kind regards.

  • @ptg01
    @ptg01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nicely done !!!! Wish I had the $$$ to afford it... Would be nice to have an idea what the costs would be to have a true reference system. My guess would be $2M USD for us mortals or $500K for those in the trade ?

  • @colanitower
    @colanitower ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting. This is the first time I saw WADAX gear in a real system. It looks impressive. Does it sound just as good as the turntable playing the same tracks?

  • @carminedesanto6746
    @carminedesanto6746 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dude 👍👍
    Not only is the listening room equipped immaculately 🥹…but it’s very tastefully done.
    Your gear is totally out of my realm of possibilities, tho’ I’ve read the TAS off and on for decades …
    In my senior years it’s been a steady downsizing..now it’s streaming , 💿, and for the most part IEM’s and headphones.
    This was a refreshing video of what’s truly out there👀
    Once again thanks 👍🔥🍕☕️

  • @wouterkolkman
    @wouterkolkman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Impressive system; just surprised about the positioning of the power amps immediately on top of the power supply, as the PSU is likely to produce some vibrations.

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว

      CH Precision designed it to be operated that way. They have a footer system between the chassis.

    • @wouterkolkman
      @wouterkolkman ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobertHarley-dk1th Thank you for your prompt and welcome explanation.

  • @eldragon4076
    @eldragon4076 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I still own Linn Majik/ Tukan. You recommended in the mid-90s.

  • @tzed2509
    @tzed2509 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic stuff, thanks for sharing. Can you play any record that isn't 12" in diameter and round and still use the vacuum hold-down with some kind of adapter?

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You must play a 12" record to use the vacuum hold-down.

    • @tzed2509
      @tzed2509 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks for the kind reply@@RobertHarley-dk1th

  • @sam-qp7np
    @sam-qp7np ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if every addition to the system makes such a difference in audio quality how bad was the initial sound. since I built a room based on the design principles I can say that the difference in audio quality is way less significant than the changes that you get with the right room.

    • @johnmalenchek6597
      @johnmalenchek6597 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely correct in my experience. Room acoustic improvements provide much bigger bang for the buck

  • @jerrybdlben231
    @jerrybdlben231 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Robert
    Very very impressive. Can you delineate between the components, loom, etc. that you have purchased versus those that you have on long term loan?

  • @glennpower1962
    @glennpower1962 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Anybody know what those silver metal tubes are sticking out of the XLR's and BNC on the Wadax Dac !

  • @SL1800
    @SL1800 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing system Robert, thanks so much for sharing. I’m making an assumption that you have a CH P10 on the way since you didn’t have a P1 phono stage in the rack?

  • @recboilable
    @recboilable ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great system but curious if you paid for all this equipment yourself or are they on loan from the company/builder/distributor?

    • @shdr55
      @shdr55 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is promoting the equipment and with full disclosure

  • @klaustheduck7703
    @klaustheduck7703 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know if I missed it but what do you use for the phono-stage preamplifier? Also I love Robert's 'The Complete Guide to High End Audio'. It's been my bible for many years.

  • @joe_v
    @joe_v 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow! What a Setup! Every five years or so, I remember being an overly committed Audiophile in the early days and then I do some surfing to find out what's happening in the hobby. Today was one of those days, and sadly, videos like this make it obvious that the high-end audio hobby is just another dying baby boomer hobby. Funny to see these guys now touting decoupled listening room walls, magnetic door seals, sonic differences after replacing 10 feet of aluminum service wire, and equipment that .01% of audiophiles in .01% of the population would buy - that they likely did not pay for in full. Then, pass it off as a reference system that helps you decide if the component you will never buy is good or not. Well, the beginning of the end has already passed. My evidence to those that don't agree - a lousy 27K subscribers to what was the font of audio information and knowledge for an enlightened generation. These guys would have more of an impact if they had a reference iPhone system and made videos comparing audio accessories. The rest is just self-aggrandization that suckers who give them money support.

    • @robertjermantowicz-uw3iw
      @robertjermantowicz-uw3iw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This level of gear is for the filthy rich who brag about it to their clueless buddies.

  • @stateniland
    @stateniland ปีที่แล้ว

    Bob? have you an opinion of W/A Sasha DAW vs. Sasha V? I own the DAW's and was wondering if the upgrade to the V is a mass improvement in sound quality? Is it easier to drive or about the same? Is the new tweeter and midrange a noticeable improvement?
    TY
    joe

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว

      I have not heard the Sasha V, but can tell you that all the "V" versions of their other speakers (Alexia V, Alexx V) have been significantly better than the earlier generation. Still, the Sasha DAW is a magical speaker.

  • @ZERO-CAPACITANCE
    @ZERO-CAPACITANCE ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent

  • @Chenxi_love_music_fairy
    @Chenxi_love_music_fairy ปีที่แล้ว

    CH Precision pre and power amplifier are the most perfect hifi systems that I have encountered. The only drawback is the price.

  • @warpspeed9877
    @warpspeed9877 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These CH precision amps should be an inch closer. The grounding boxes' position makes me nervous...

  • @mikelautermilch8939
    @mikelautermilch8939 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    generally speaking, which do you prefer the sound of: the digital system or the analog system? if analog generally, are there exceptions -- i.e., occasional recordings you prefer via digital? if so, how often does that happen? one out of 10 recordings? one out of a 100? please no politically correct answers :) (the reason i ask is because we non-wealthy can't afford both high-end digital and high-end analog; we have to make a choice; and i for one would like to know whether my long-term aim should be high-end digital or vinyl, if sound quality is the main priority.)

  • @scottstrang1583
    @scottstrang1583 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This makes wish I’d been born rich instead of ugly.

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah , but does it sound good:)
    A dream system in a dream room.

  • @christopherspiro9857
    @christopherspiro9857 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    NASA would be proud of this level of engineering. Ha!

  • @MegaM563
    @MegaM563 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's a funky way to store a fragile 3600 dollars like the tower bridge.

  • @shadowofpain8144
    @shadowofpain8144 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I found my perfect system lots cheaper than he did.
    Fidelio speakers were the bedrock live music at about 20 watts tubes sounds well live.
    Wilsenton R8 with kt88 using the pre input hifi rose to a Freya plus with psvang tubes on the gain and gold pin russian tube, electro harmonix.

  • @matthieuf.t.2456
    @matthieuf.t.2456 ปีที่แล้ว

    Passion is something but I don't understand how one can afford such a system, incl. the custom built room. Did you win the lottery? used to be the CEO of a major corporatrion? sold a succesful; business? Will there be a part 3 with some financial advices on how to get there? :)

  • @pyntzer
    @pyntzer ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Robert, thank you so much to give us te opportunity to see something like your system, that I consider superb. So I just have a doubt, which speaker is your reference speaker?

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My reference speaker is the Wilson Audio Chronosonic XVX with a pair of Wilson SubSonic subwoofers.

  • @EdoDijkgraaf
    @EdoDijkgraaf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had never heard of AJ (turntables). I googled it. What do you think Google showed after two AJ turntables? A Crosley. As if I can't realize myself that I will never be able to own an AJ myself. Thanks Google!

    • @delkat123
      @delkat123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A.J. Conti, was the owner and chief designer of Basis turntables until he passed away a couple of years ago. Now it’s run by wife and son.

  • @hilde45
    @hilde45 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you say you hear differences at various points - between this rack or another, this power supply or another - it would be interesting to get a description of those audible differences. Often, when I make subtle changes in my system, I have a very hard time finding the words to pinpoint the difference - and to be sure that there really is a difference -- in other words that I am not projecting it with my imagination. I admit that when I put in a new (supposedly better) product, I am biased to hear differences. It would be nice if you could teach viewers some methodology to eliminate bias or at least refine perception (and perceptual vocabulary) so that our home evaluations would be on firmer footing.

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In my book The Complete Guide to High-End Audio (now in a sixth edition), I include a long and detailed chapter on critical listening, explaining the language of critical listening, how to set up an evaluation, avoiding bias, what to listen for, and other factors that go into evaluating a product.

    • @hilde45
      @hilde45 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobertHarley-dk1th Thank you very much. I think it would be helpful if you at least mentioned this in the videos. That might forestall some skepticism about subjective bias. Just a thought.

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hilde45 Thanks for the suggestion. A video on critical listening set up and methods may be helpful. Incidentally, I wrote a 15,000 word paper that I presented at the 1991 New York Audio Engineering Society convention called "The Role of Critical Listening in Evaluating Audio Equipment Quality."

    • @hilde45
      @hilde45 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobertHarley-dk1th I'll look for that. I created a video presentation about philosophical issues in high end audio (objective vs. subjective, gear vs. room, etc.) and it's on my channel. [th-cam.com/video/cWPSYLFxuPo/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=DH] It was presented at an international philosophy of technology conference in 2021. I had some interest from Stereophile to publish something derived from it, but they dropped the ball and I've not heard back from them again. Paul McGowan posted about it, too. I did presentation with the Colorado Audio Society on the topic, too. In my view, the phenomenology of sound is incredibly rich area which bears on a lot of what audiophiles care about, but the technical language can be a barrier.

    • @shdr55
      @shdr55 ปีที่แล้ว

      He can't do it because that will ruin his business

  • @brikaf6001
    @brikaf6001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome vid, is the simaudio your current phono preamp

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, it's the Simaudio Moon 810LP. Great phonostage.

  • @jeffreythurston1822
    @jeffreythurston1822 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing this, especially the approach to power supply and grounding. I don’t think you shared your phono preamp with that impressive turntable.

  • @raynewcomb337
    @raynewcomb337 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the phono stage CH also?

  • @xprcloud
    @xprcloud ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic!!
    Billions of people with a B, use 0s and 1s,
    from the stock market, banks, smartphones, insurance companies, airlines, cars, surgery rooms, F-35
    but only audio phools need special technology to handle such things as complicated as 1s and 0s.
    You said the "1s and 0s do not change and yet to hear a subtle difference in the sound"...obviously PAGANIC placebo.
    Do you also sacrifice goats to improve audio quality?
    flat earth science all day long.

  • @kimbye1
    @kimbye1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now prove all this in a double blind test. What I would like these people to talk about, which is kinda the same as with the people who reviev cars is the point of diminishing return.

  • @kevinsoutham
    @kevinsoutham ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you list the music particularly the last piece playing at the end.

    • @TASmagazine
      @TASmagazine  ปีที่แล้ว

      Smokey Mountain Blues by Tony Petersen
      The Lonesome Cowboy by JuliusH
      The Fallen Cowboy by Andrew Faid

  • @themaskedsingercucucachu8225
    @themaskedsingercucucachu8225 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the racks have fabulous sonic performance, whew, that is a relief! how do the chairs sound in your room? what about all that drywall, is it boomy? Get real brother.

  • @steveschwall6101
    @steveschwall6101 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are the "plugs" in the empty outputs or inputs ?

    • @RobertHarley-dk1th
      @RobertHarley-dk1th ปีที่แล้ว

      Those are the GroundArray devices from Chord. I should have mentioned them in the video. They are small cylindrical devices that plug into unused inputs or outputs and lower the noise floor. They are available with a variety of terminations.

  • @DaveGava
    @DaveGava 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ampex machines were the best recording machines period

  • @kurthill7030
    @kurthill7030 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it me or has listening to music gone expensive and silly I still have my equipment from the 80s guess what I still listen to music 🤣😂👍

    • @robertjermantowicz-uw3iw
      @robertjermantowicz-uw3iw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This level of gear is for the filthy rich to brag about to their clueless buddies.

  • @AccuphaseMan
    @AccuphaseMan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, that's a ton of e-waste you've got there!

  • @wavetouch107
    @wavetouch107 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you upload live recorded videos of your beautiful audio system? I love to hear your system.

    • @MichelLinschoten
      @MichelLinschoten ปีที่แล้ว

      On what a phone recording ....dude lol😂

    • @wavetouch107
      @wavetouch107 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichelLinschoten RH voice is great on this video. They can use same recording machine to record the sound of audio system. They spend so much time for this video. I am sure they recorded the sound of audio system.