Virtually every golfer with a handicap over 4 has some of this in some degree. This Vid/Lesson is brilliant...not perhaps complete for every situation...but certainly addresses the reason why coming in from the inside is such a tricky thing if you're extending early. Thank you. Subscribed.
Looking forward to reviewing some of my recordings to see if this is what I'm doing. I struggle massively with early extension, hands flip over and I get a lovely toey hook!
I only learnt this year that early extension is a compensation or consequence of another swing fault. It is not a fault within itself which makes all the bum on walls/chairs drills etc that I’ve been doing for years redundant and a waste of time. Great video Pete 👍🏼
Number 1 best video ever. I have this swing fault to the point of lower back pain. My consistency is terrible because of it. The devil of it is that it's more of a subtle thing that's hard to notice without video.
I've had this swing flaw for years and with numerous lessons have not been able to resolve it. I can't wait to work on this drill and see some improvent. BTW: got some nice swing videos of Tiger and others at the pga. Really cool to be so close to them
i was bugged by this for years but never knew what it was just saw the results. i went for lessons and such but never got it fixed until i got a computer and found out about it on youtube by you and others. thnx i believe i finally worked it out.
Well done Pete! This is probably the biggest single swing fault in golf. You broke it down simply and concisely. I’d take a lesson from you if I was in England. Which I can’t wait to visit.
Nice analysis and good presentation. Golf is a game of compensations. Each fault has to have a counter-fault to allow you to hit the ball. I like to say faults typically occur in pairs. This is why golf is so hard.
Amazing video Peter! I’ve struggled with a steepish downswing and early extension for so long and never even considered the two faults were related. I’ve been trying your three stage drill and have finally cracked it! My downswing now feels a lot more ‘around the body’ with the shaft shallowing out nicely. My early extension has vanished too! Thank you so much 👍🏻
My swing was the humping the go movement as you said XD.....But seriously glad you addressed this issue Pete, I struggled with the same problem of early extension, and I would ALWAYS hit thin shots, and contact was sketchy, and i'd get snap hooks and blocks, this really explained it well.
Hi Peter, Great video. As someone currently going through their PGA training i find your videos help to build my own knowledge when it comes to coaching. Looking forward to the book as well. Keep up the good work👍🏼
Many thanks Peter. This is my swing fault and have been focusing on keeping my butt back to prevent early extension, but it is the position at the top. Hoping this will help my ball striking. I play off 9, mainly due to a very strong short game and scrambling from inconsistent ball striking. Thanks
i had this problem for years but did not know what it was except it felt like i was standing up and a ruined shot. now thanks to youtube i know what it is and some fixes. i had some lessons in the past and would do it right in front of the guy and i don't think he knew what it was so he never helped me with it. thnx for the insight.
Great video and breakdown of causes of early extension which has haunted me for the longest time. Will bring to range tonight and attempt to keep external rotation of right shoulder and shallowing of club at top.
This is why I like your coaching approach; You technically look at each step. It may be the nerd in me, but the comparison to dissecting problems in engineering/networking is similar. "What is the problem?" "What do we want to change?" "What do we need to fix?" My experience with ISO-9001, SixSigma, LEAN Methodolgies, etc, all lend themselves to eliminating waste and getting to the 'right' answer by looking at all of the issues (I'm almost surprised to NOT see a fishbone diagram here! LOL) Great stuff Pete. Thank you again Sir!
Great explanation Peter. Most common swing fault I see with golfers personally. Identifying the cause not the symptom for it is key. Keep up the great work brother!
So glad I found this video, this is exactly the problem I have, I just filmed myself and found that the cause is also a very slight internal rotation at the top of the backswing.
Helpful this Pete. I'm working on the shallowing after my lesson with you, the slowing down part with the feelings is great advice. Thanks for the video.👍
Good video Pete. It's interesting how certain instructors (TPI) would have us belie that most faults, especially early extension, are caused by physical limitations rather than being a learning/motor pattern issue/compensation
Super vlog Peter and well done Nick!!!!!! Just show how going to a PGA pro can help with swing issues and also how technology such as cameras etc can assist in getting the information over the student and viewers. Cheers.
Wow. I've been struggling with early extension for 2 years. Probably longer but diagnosed about 2 years ago. I've always believed it was an effect of things earlier in the swing. I've messed about with wrist angles and the thought of keeping my butt back with mixed results. Literally, 2 hours ago I was at the range and tried this very same thing -- before seeing the video -- but without these much better drills. Back at it tomorrow! Thanks for this great (and, for me, timely) video.
Great timing on this video. 11 handicap here, struggle with consistency in my game. Some days I find the middle, then others its shank city! Think this drill should help me! Thanks Pete.
Pete, great video and love the series! Been working on early extension problem for about a year and you and Dan Whittaker have helped a lot. Love to hear more about drills to help with this problem.
Had a lesson on exactly this today. I early extend which is likely a by-product of my over the top swing of old. Now that I'm swinging on plane it's something I hope to eradicate from my swing.
Good to see a coach who sees an early extension and doesn't say "Don't early extend" I do have a question though, as the early extension was caused by something else, do you think his right elbow at the top was also being caused by something else? Great video as always 👍
Peter, Peter, PETER...... where can I send you some money........ What a great and insightful video. I took it to the range today and it helped so much. Like all new movements, you have to over exaggerate them in order to 'actually' get any difference during the swing, (Well I do at least, 'Feel & Real' like Dan says). But watching playback in videos, the practice swings are soooo much better. I've struggled to correct the early extension for years, my club goes from a pretty good on plane position to a very steep shaft in the transition resulting in me thrusting the hips and delivery a high handle, this video and mindset seemed to help today. Looking forward to trying again tomorrow.
Hello from Australia Great stuff Pete!!! I am a young PGA Progessional and this is something I see a heap with students. 2 questions for you: 1. Have you done/looked into TPI in any way?? 2. Did you work on wrist angles of left hand to try and flatten ?? Your content is awesome and I have taken so much from you the last few years. Cheers Regan 👌
Great video. I might have first started with getting the hips rotating correctly on the backswing with a lower lead hip and higher and deeper trail hip with a straighter right leg. Arms work to get high when the shoulders are flat because of poor hip rotation. Do this and keep the arms relaxed and the arm problem is solved. Club lays back on downswing when the head remains back with the right knee driving laterally.
My swing on camera, handicap (4.2 at a club that is 1 at most others and generally knocking under the handicap coming down) and swing in general without any disrespect or competition with your student is much better however I lose power and consistency and have to practice a crazy amount with or without ball to eradicate this, it’s not quite to the same degree but it is still a slight forward movement which means the swing isn’t following a natural path and movement like hitting a baseball etc. Great vid and would love to have lessons with you on this!
Omg, this is my swing! And Inhad no idea it’s because of my trailing arm! I’ve been trying to focus only on my hips! I’m an improving OTT slicer, so I was struggling with why I started pull hooks. I haven’t seen a coach explain this reason and sure enough when I look at my video my trailing arm has internal rotation! Still OTT even though I though I fixed it by getting rid of my chicken wing.
Another good video Peter. Do you have any interest or TIME to do a fan video swing analysis? I'm sure it would be tricky to get the correct camera angle but its doable. What are your thoughts on this?
I know I have a similar move. I start steepen at the top of my downswing, early extend, then flip through impact in order to not slam my clubhead into the ground. I've worked for years to try to fix this, but have never been successful. Though the onus is really on my lack of dedicated practice and not so much with the instruction I've received.
Great vid Pete. Always had early extension in my swing for years. From filming my swing, the cause seemed to be that I wasn't clearing my hips at impact (my impact position was very similar to my set up). So I've been working on turning my hips on the downswing to clear them at impact which seems to have removed or significantly reduce my early extension. Has this cause for early extension been seen in any of your clients?
His steep shaft position is caused by the weight. on the front of the right foot rather than the heal. It is a natural adaption. to be in. balance. Pressure has to go to the heal in the right foot for the backswing to move correctly
His downswing does not shallow on plane. Right side needs to do vertical drop so shaft & clubhead can be accelerated into impact. Good job as usual Pete.
Pete i would like some advice on what is the best way to prepare for a two day comp next July, should i see a pro to look at my swing and spend the winter getting my distances sorted?
Question Peter: I struggle with exact same thing and I like to play a fade, with the movement of dropping the club down on the inside, can one still play the fade? It seems like this would push for a draw. Just curious
Hey Peter, thanks for making the videos, i am a new teen golfer and i was wondering what is your average driver carry and the distance between your driver and 3 wood distance, because i average around 245 total distance on my drives but when i button my 7 wood i can hit it 240 yards, i use a 1995 big bertha do i need a new driver,
Pete - I've been watching your practice swings on the various recent videos - they seem to me (an I'm no Pro!) that you are forcing yourself to swing across the ball (out to in, rather than in to out)? Is that right - is it a recent 'swing feel' to correct an ailment or error, or is it something I should be doing too?
I massively suffer from this. I also come over the top at the start of the downswing so basically I fuck everything up 😂 Need to sort out coming to see you dude! Please come down south 🙏 haha
If you learn the malaska move "the handle works in and the clubhead works out", then there wont be any early extension anymore. The clubhead generates so much force that the body needs to counter that. The body needs to push away from the ball. But thats not an active movement its an effect of physics. You cannot do it conciously. The golfswing is a motion created my arms and hands. The body just reacts.
Peter...so I have the Early Extension where it IS from me lifting up on my toes, and I heel long irons/woods terribly if I don't make sure I stay down. Any lessons for that?
I spent years doing the forward thrust (goat humping move) Peter and can relate to this video. You explain it really well as usual. The feeling of turning my torso with the lead arm squeezed against the left pectorial muscle (right handed golfer) in the downswing helped me a lot to over come the feeling of using any arm/shoulder muscles.......... best explained here th-cam.com/video/IEDv30W3ZHM/w-d-xo.html Thanks for the instruction Pete and keep up the amazing work!
Im also struggeling with early extention, but my problem is that my back is rasing upwards in the down swing so i can hit the ball pure! I would love to send you a video if you could help me?
Virtually every golfer with a handicap over 4 has some of this in some degree. This Vid/Lesson is brilliant...not perhaps complete for every situation...but certainly addresses the reason why coming in from the inside is such a tricky thing if you're extending early. Thank you. Subscribed.
Looking forward to reviewing some of my recordings to see if this is what I'm doing. I struggle massively with early extension, hands flip over and I get a lovely toey hook!
I only learnt this year that early extension is a compensation or consequence of another swing fault. It is not a fault within itself which makes all the bum on walls/chairs drills etc that I’ve been doing for years redundant and a waste of time.
Great video Pete 👍🏼
Number 1 best video ever. I have this swing fault to the point of lower back pain. My consistency is terrible because of it. The devil of it is that it's more of a subtle thing that's hard to notice without video.
I've had this swing flaw for years and with numerous lessons have not been able to resolve it. I can't wait to work on this drill and see some improvent. BTW: got some nice swing videos of Tiger and others at the pga. Really cool to be so close to them
i was bugged by this for years but never knew what it was just saw the results. i went for lessons and such but never got it fixed until i got a computer and found out about it on youtube by you and others. thnx i believe i finally worked it out.
Well done Pete! This is probably the biggest single swing fault in golf. You broke it down simply and concisely. I’d take a lesson from you if I was in England. Which I can’t wait to visit.
Nice analysis and good presentation. Golf is a game of compensations. Each fault has to have a counter-fault to allow you to hit the ball. I like to say faults typically occur in pairs. This is why golf is so hard.
Amazing video Peter! I’ve struggled with a steepish downswing and early extension for so long and never even considered the two faults were related. I’ve been trying your three stage drill and have finally cracked it! My downswing now feels a lot more ‘around the body’ with the shaft shallowing out nicely. My early extension has vanished too! Thank you so much 👍🏻
This is a much better explanation than being too close to the ball, improper hip rotation, etc.
Excellent video. Not many instructors explain the root cause like this.
I wish all golf instructors were so insightful. Understanding all of these cause and effect relationships in the golf swing is a real skill...
My swing was the humping the go movement as you said XD.....But seriously glad you addressed this issue Pete, I struggled with the same problem of early extension, and I would ALWAYS hit thin shots, and contact was sketchy, and i'd get snap hooks and blocks, this really explained it well.
Good to hear :)
Hi Peter,
Great video. As someone currently going through their PGA training i find your videos help to build my own knowledge when it comes to coaching. Looking forward to the book as well. Keep up the good work👍🏼
Cheers Ronan, best of luck with it!
Great explanation of cause and effect
Many thanks Peter. This is my swing fault and have been focusing on keeping my butt back to prevent early extension, but it is the position at the top. Hoping this will help my ball striking. I play off 9, mainly due to a very strong short game and scrambling from inconsistent ball striking. Thanks
i had this problem for years but did not know what it was except it felt like i was standing up and a ruined shot. now thanks to youtube i know what it is and some fixes. i had some lessons in the past and would do it right in front of the guy and i don't think he knew what it was so he never helped me with it. thnx for the insight.
Great video and breakdown of causes of early extension which has haunted me for the longest time. Will bring to range tonight and attempt to keep external rotation of right shoulder and shallowing of club at top.
This is why I like your coaching approach; You technically look at each step.
It may be the nerd in me, but the comparison to dissecting problems in engineering/networking is similar.
"What is the problem?"
"What do we want to change?"
"What do we need to fix?"
My experience with ISO-9001, SixSigma, LEAN Methodolgies, etc, all lend themselves to eliminating waste and getting to the 'right' answer by looking at all of the issues (I'm almost surprised to NOT see a fishbone diagram here! LOL)
Great stuff Pete. Thank you again Sir!
Great explanation Peter. Most common swing fault I see with golfers personally. Identifying the cause not the symptom for it is key. Keep up the great work brother!
GolfCoachMarv sxs1
So glad I found this video, this is exactly the problem I have, I just filmed myself and found that the cause is also a very slight internal rotation at the top of the backswing.
Thanks Pete for explanations on the hip thrust movements, this is going to help my swing and game! Cheers
Hope so! :)
Helpful this Pete. I'm working on the shallowing after my lesson with you, the slowing down part with the feelings is great advice. Thanks for the video.👍
Good to hear keith, see you soon
Good video Pete. It's interesting how certain instructors (TPI) would have us belie that most faults, especially early extension, are caused by physical limitations rather than being a learning/motor pattern issue/compensation
Super vlog Peter and well done Nick!!!!!!
Just show how going to a PGA pro can help with swing issues and also how technology such as cameras etc can assist in getting the information over the student and viewers.
Cheers.
Thanks Peter exactly my problem hoping watching this tip will help me Thanks
Let me know how you find it alec
Wow. I've been struggling with early extension for 2 years. Probably longer but diagnosed about 2 years ago. I've always believed it was an effect of things earlier in the swing. I've messed about with wrist angles and the thought of keeping my butt back with mixed results. Literally, 2 hours ago I was at the range and tried this very same thing -- before seeing the video -- but without these much better drills. Back at it tomorrow! Thanks for this great (and, for me, timely) video.
Great timing on this video. 11 handicap here, struggle with consistency in my game. Some days I find the middle, then others its shank city! Think this drill should help me! Thanks Pete.
Thanks Peter! just solved my problem which seems to be identical and I am trying to solve since quite a while now.... thumbs up!!
Absolutely first class teaching pete
I can relate to this. Will try these drills myself next time at the range. Thanks Finchy!
No probs!
Thanks for this literally my first shot was sweet. Feeling of shallow club plus rotation is helpful mindset to be in
You are the man Finchy! this is the first i've seen it explain like this.
Hope it was helpful!
Great coaching Pete. Love these live sessions. Keep them coming.
More on the way!
Great video. Nice to see you break it down so succinctly with the fix!
:)
Great work 👍
Pete, great video and love the series! Been working on early extension problem for about a year and you and Dan Whittaker have helped a lot. Love to hear more about drills to help with this problem.
This is exactly my problem, with exactly the same cause. Going to practice these drills.
This is my problem totally destroying my game especially of the tee , good lesson
Pete great video I believe this is something I have been struggling with. I just couldn't figure it out. I will definitely try this.
Let me know how you get on dwayne
Awesome analysis and drills prescribed! Thanks for sharing Pete!
No probs john, hope you found it useful
Peter Finch Golf absolutely! Thank you!
Love this style of videos Finch! Not relevant to me at all but enjoyable to watch none the less
Cheers bud
Was such a needed watch for myself tonight. Thank u !!!
Top video. Concise, full of info. More like this please.
More on the way!
Brilliant vid , Is this something we can correct ? Have you ever had a student who’s stopped this swim issue ??
Had a lesson on exactly this today. I early extend which is likely a by-product of my over the top swing of old. Now that I'm swinging on plane it's something I hope to eradicate from my swing.
Good to see a coach who sees an early extension and doesn't say "Don't early extend" I do have a question though, as the early extension was caused by something else, do you think his right elbow at the top was also being caused by something else? Great video as always 👍
Peter, Peter, PETER...... where can I send you some money........ What a great and insightful video. I took it to the range today and it helped so much. Like all new movements, you have to over exaggerate them in order to 'actually' get any difference during the swing, (Well I do at least, 'Feel & Real' like Dan says). But watching playback in videos, the practice swings are soooo much better. I've struggled to correct the early extension for years, my club goes from a pretty good on plane position to a very steep shaft in the transition resulting in me thrusting the hips and delivery a high handle, this video and mindset seemed to help today. Looking forward to trying again tomorrow.
Will try that asap, like many other tips 😅Thanks for sharing. Golf: sophistication & simplicity...
Tagline right there!
Definitely something I need to take a look at. Thanks Pete!
Hello from Australia Great stuff Pete!!!
I am a young PGA Progessional and this is something I see a heap with students.
2 questions for you:
1. Have you done/looked into TPI in any way??
2. Did you work on wrist angles of left hand to try and flatten ??
Your content is awesome and I have taken so much from you the last few years.
Cheers
Regan
👌
Great video! After watching lots of videos, this finally helped!
Great stuff Pete. Really interesting stuff since I've suffered with this myself in the past.
Great video. I might have first started with getting the hips rotating correctly on the backswing with a lower lead hip and higher and deeper trail hip with a straighter right leg. Arms work to get high when the shoulders are flat because of poor hip rotation. Do this and keep the arms relaxed and the arm problem is solved. Club lays back on downswing when the head remains back with the right knee driving laterally.
Pete the golf pro guide to success!!!🐐🏌️
Try my best!
This is the best early extension fix!
Thanks for your relevant, helpful video, Peter!
Hey Pete, Can you list one or two drill to get the right arm more externally rotated at the top ? Thanks !
Great video pete thanks
My swing on camera, handicap (4.2 at a club that is 1 at most others and generally knocking under the handicap coming down) and swing in general without any disrespect or competition with your student is much better however I lose power and consistency and have to practice a crazy amount with or without ball to eradicate this, it’s not quite to the same degree but it is still a slight forward movement which means the swing isn’t following a natural path and movement like hitting a baseball etc. Great vid and would love to have lessons with you on this!
Thanks Pete, very helpful. I do the exact same thing in my swing and will try the drills you demonstrate here!
Man Pete your a coach from another planet 🌏🤯
great TY so much Peter.... Thankyou
Omg, this is my swing! And Inhad no idea it’s because of my trailing arm! I’ve been trying to focus only on my hips! I’m an improving OTT slicer, so I was struggling with why I started pull hooks. I haven’t seen a coach explain this reason and sure enough when I look at my video my trailing arm has internal rotation! Still OTT even though I though I fixed it by getting rid of my chicken wing.
Thx Peter. Great Vid and exercise done.
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Great stuff Pete. I must really do a slow motion vid of my swing one day just to have a look at it.
Another good video Peter. Do you have any interest or TIME to do a fan video swing analysis? I'm sure it would be tricky to get the correct camera angle but its doable. What are your thoughts on this?
Will try!
Great stuff once again Pete!!!
:)
GENIUS!!!!!!!!!😆😆😆
Very helpful video Peter. When will you be shooting another video with your dad? Those were fun to watch as well? Hope he is well.
Hopefully doing some filming next Friday :)
Nice one Pete I think I will be giving that drill a go next time I'm at the range ;)
Good to hear sam
I played college golf- gave it up for 10 years- came back and have early extension that no coach can cure- been to almost a dozen-
Looking forward to the book release!
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Amazing!.. thx a lot 🤩🤩
I know I have a similar move. I start steepen at the top of my downswing, early extend, then flip through impact in order to not slam my clubhead into the ground. I've worked for years to try to fix this, but have never been successful. Though the onus is really on my lack of dedicated practice and not so much with the instruction I've received.
Great vid!
I would love to come over from Germany and take a couple of lessions. Any Hotel&Course recommendations near the academy?
Thanks for making this video. Nicks fault is also my fault. Gives me something to work on.
Great stuff Finchy!
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Great vid Pete. Always had early extension in my swing for years. From filming my swing, the cause seemed to be that I wasn't clearing my hips at impact (my impact position was very similar to my set up). So I've been working on turning my hips on the downswing to clear them at impact which seems to have removed or significantly reduce my early extension. Has this cause for early extension been seen in any of your clients?
Brilliant! Coach and student. It takes two.
His steep shaft position is caused by the weight. on the front of the right foot rather than the heal. It is a natural adaption. to be in. balance.
Pressure has to go to the heal in the right foot for the backswing to move correctly
Good stuff Pete!!!!
His downswing does not shallow on plane. Right side needs to do vertical drop so shaft & clubhead can be accelerated into impact. Good job as usual Pete.
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Pete i would like some advice on what is the best way to prepare for a two day comp next July, should i see a pro to look at my swing and spend the winter getting my distances sorted?
Question Peter: I struggle with exact same thing and I like to play a fade, with the movement of dropping the club down on the inside, can one still play the fade? It seems like this would push for a draw. Just curious
I can't wait to see how you deal with my swing on the 18th
Looking forward to it Lee!
I am to Peter
Thanks bud
Thanks for the tips again 🙏🏻
Hey Peter, thanks for making the videos, i am a new teen golfer and i was wondering what is your average driver carry and the distance between your driver and 3 wood distance, because i average around 245 total distance on my drives but when i button my 7 wood i can hit it 240 yards, i use a 1995 big bertha do i need a new driver,
I wish there was a Peter Finch in Australia
Pete - I've been watching your practice swings on the various recent videos - they seem to me (an I'm no Pro!) that you are forcing yourself to swing across the ball (out to in, rather than in to out)? Is that right - is it a recent 'swing feel' to correct an ailment or error, or is it something I should be doing too?
Do you recommend the same drive for Driver, I top mine most times Early Ext.
I massively suffer from this. I also come over the top at the start of the downswing so basically I fuck everything up 😂
Need to sort out coming to see you dude! Please come down south 🙏 haha
Be great to have you up here bud, it would be worth the journey 😄
If you learn the malaska move "the handle works in and the clubhead works out", then there wont be any early extension anymore. The clubhead generates so much force that the body needs to counter that. The body needs to push away from the ball. But thats not an active movement its an effect of physics. You cannot do it conciously. The golfswing is a motion created my arms and hands. The body just reacts.
thank you for taking time to reply to my last comment
No probs :)
Peter...so I have the Early Extension where it IS from me lifting up on my toes, and I heel long irons/woods terribly if I don't make sure I stay down. Any lessons for that?
I spent years doing the forward thrust (goat humping move) Peter and can relate to this video. You explain it really well as usual.
The feeling of turning my torso with the lead arm squeezed against the left pectorial muscle (right handed golfer) in the downswing helped me a lot to over come the feeling of using any arm/shoulder muscles..........
best explained here th-cam.com/video/IEDv30W3ZHM/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the instruction Pete and keep up the amazing work!
Im also struggeling with early extention, but my problem is that my back is rasing upwards in the down swing so i can hit the ball pure! I would love to send you a video if you could help me?
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