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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 มิ.ย. 2024
- I sold my Transalp because I didn't want my Speed Twin 1200 any more. Makes no sense? The explanation is in this video.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Context
01:12 Looks
03:13 Comfort
05:58 Engine
08:02 Brakes
08:34 Equipment
11:10 Speed Twin 1200
12:28 Final thoughts
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It's just a journey...no right or wrong path. You seem to be having fun, so I say you made the right decision for you. Congrats and enjoy.
Thank you :)
You can always rely on well-rounded and objective review from RM. Well done.
Thank you😊
I did more than 50,000 klms in North America in the mid 80s on my Honda XL500S. It took me from Texas to the shores of Hudson bay. The transalp is sheer luxury compared to the xl500s. Sometimes I feel all of these new bikes distract us from what it's really about. Excellent comparison. In my opinion, buy the best bike you're comfortable shelling out for. Not just what you can afford, but something that gives you no buyers remorse.
Sage advice
What I love about this video is how the traffic allows you past safety. I’ve ridden a lot in Europe and it’s really refreshing coming from the UK.
Yes, Portuguese drivers are very good for that. Motorbikes are given a lot of consideration👍😊
Great video. I recently bought a ‘24 Transalp. My previous adventure bike was a 2017 BMW 1200 GS. In between I bought a Vespa GTS (great fun). The Transalp appeals to me for the Goldie Locks effect. Great all rounder and reasonable price. It does pretty much everything I need it to do.
I really enjoyed my year with the Transalp👍😊
I picked up my new 24 GT PRO last week, today it already got the 1000km Service. I am absolutely in love with this bike. Looking forward to more Tiger Content of yours :D
Yes, a great bike. I'll be putting a few km on the bike over the next couple of weeks now that the weather has improved
I've got the 2023 GT pro. Yes it's a great bike ,10,000 km, and no thoughts of parting with it
I feel you with regard to the Speed Twin. My Monster 1200S was suffering the same fate. After 8 years of ownership, it had less than 9000 km on it. Meanwhile, my Harley that was 2 years newer has over 80,000 km on it and my T7 has 12,000 on it after 2 seasons. I loved the visceral look of the Ducati, but it had become the last choice for actual riding.
Exactly😟
Well done, great move,logical advantages everywhere. Plus the rally pro is just one of the best 👍
Thanks👍😊
Great scenery as always, and I appreciate your insights.
Thanks for watching!😊
Enjoyed this and your test ride, I'm picking my tiger rally pro up tomorrow.
Great bike. Enjoy👍😊
As you also have a channel to run I get it why you keep changing bikes like you do. To keep things interesting there must from time to time be something new to show up and dissect. And we get a benefit from this. So well done. Many of us do it the other way, we own a bike sometimes for quite a long period of time and learn all what the bike has to offer. We love it to bits, and forgive it for things that break or disappoint just because we like it so much. Also propably we live where the season is short. In my now 5 decades as a motorcyclist I have never owned more than one bike at a time. I don´t have time to ride more than one, and the expense would be ridiculous compared to what I would gain. But I have to have that one bike, I have tried to quit a couple of times to instead have other hobbies but it will not work, I need a bike and I need to be able to go riding to keep me happy. Whatever floats our boat, eh?
Thanks for your input 😊👍
@@RocketMan_Moto almost a little rant, propably envy to all people who live somewhere it is possible to ride almost all year. We Finns have been chosen happiest people in the world 7 years in a row, there must be something seriously wrong with that jury. Not so cheery in winter... 😁
I spent a few months in Helsinki in the summer and the winter. Beautiful place, in both seasons, but I think the short days in winter would finish me off after a couple of years😬
Smart bike, and sound reasoning for the purchase - well done sir.
Thanks, Steve😊👍
Good review and update. Thank you. I had that exact same Tiger and loved it. I thought it was very nearly perfect.
What did you replace it with?
It is difficult to fault👍
I don’t want to know😂
I lost my mind and thought I needed the 1200 Exp. I didn’t, to be clear, but thought I did. I love the 1200 but should have stuck with the 900.
Haha, the 1200 is addictive :)
Rode the Tiger 900 rally last week at a dealership and absolutely loved it. The bike is a home run, fun exhilarating with loads of tech. I personally think you made a good choice. Good luck with the bike
Thank you. Yes, happy so far😊
That voice. The barry white of motorcyle channels.
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Good review 👍
I fitted bar risers , a taller smoked screen and lowered by 10mm my 2023 GT pro. A great all round bike but I hope to upgrade to the latest version later this year . All the best , stay safe 👍😊
I’m looking into bar risers. Never needed them before, but I think they could help on the Tiger. The 2024 model does have a bunch of improvements 👍😊
A Brilliantly fair review of both bikes and an enjoyable video from start to finish. Many thanks Rocket Man. Best wishes from sunny Ireland 🍻🤪
Thank you. Sun? In Ireland?!
@@RocketMan_MotoHe's joking.... or psychotic.
2 weeks into ownership, another couple weeks left and you will be on to the next bike!
Lol. Not this time... Give me until Christmas ;)
Lol...Yes!
Thoroughly enjoyed your review. I agree with you on the "lack" of Odo, and would have liked to see the keyless as an option.
Thanks. Yes, keyless would solve a few problems
Nice balanced review
Thanks😊👍
Good comparison video
Thanks👍😊
Beautiful ride👍🏻
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Tubed tires tarnished the allure of the TA. Distance to empty on the display over grip angle for moi aussi😂 Fine videos good sir! 👍
Thanks 👍
I wish you tons of fun during your time with the Tiger. And I am curious which bike will be your next one.
Thank you :)
I enjoyed this summary. If I can afford it the Tiger will be my first choice. I've been eyeing it since 2020. Hopefully by the end of our winter where I live, I'll be financially able to afford one😊
Me too, but the 2024 version was worth waiting for
Sounds like you made a good choice especially if you aren't missing the Speed Twin!! So even tho you have found a few gripes with it ie the milage constantly on display + maybe you will find a way of displaying it or it may be the case of an update you never no with all this tech these days?🙄 Anyway a nice open & honest review so far RM all the best Dave...👌🏻👍🏻
Thanks, Dave😊
Never mind you missing the Transalp 😅, I will, was looking forward to test of cruise control! 😢 now I'll have to do it myself!
Great vid as always thanks
I sent the CC back because Honda advised me it would void my warranty and possibly my insurance too😬
@@RocketMan_MotoDamm I never thought of that, seen a review of the cruise on Big Rock moto, looked just I was after. Needs a rethink, or keep the bike for 2 yrs😅
Yes, owners need to be very careful 'messing' with the wiring. The problem with the Veridian system is that it involves splicing into the brake control wire, and insurers don't really like that sort of thing.
Suspension wise I agree that the Rally pro is better, but I opted for the GT Pro because of the seat height and on-road focus. I never go off road, but well... never say never...
Excited for this seasons riding. Thanks for an interesting video!
Glad you enjoyed it. Yes, the Rally is a big bike.
Great video thanks RM, Im very close to pulling the trigger on a 24’ Tiger RP, as you mention the mods I would want to do on a Transalp to improve it would negate the price difference.
I know you are still running the Tiger in, but do you find it ‘buzzy’ at motorway speeds - sitting at higher revs than the tall geared TA?
There are vibrations, but less than on my Transalp. And cruise control means I can rest my right hand👍😊
I goy to try a 2023 Tiger Rallye Pro superb all round Motorcycle
Definitely on my list.
Yes, I’m very satisfied
Love your channel and the narration. I'm chopping my Vstrom 650 in and willing to take the £1500 hit :(
Ouch
Having owned both bikes as well, I agree with your assessment. The Tiger is noticeably more premium and comes rather well kitted out. The transalp is great value for money and exceptionally comfortable. For me, I enjoy the Transalp more largely because I enjoy working on my bikes and adding mods to them.
I get that. There's not much left for me to do on the Tiger, it's got everything
How does the transalp feels while driving 130 km/h? Does it has vibrations?
I plan to buy a NX500 but having vibrations on 110 km/h changes my mind a bit!
@@WarzoneWonders10 at those speeds not much that I notice in the bars but they are present in the foot pegs. It’s not something that I consider bothersome though. My old Tiger 900 did the opposite and had vibes in the bars which did lead to tingly hands after a while.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but yes, the Transalp is buzzy at high speed and... the NX500 is even worse :(
Are you upgrading the suspensions on TA? I just bought a TA and don’t like the suspensions. Didn’t buy the rally pro coz I ride in hot weather conditions here in India and the radiator fans on rally pro cook my legs. TA + rally pro level of suspension comfort is the set up I need. Any thoughts?
Well presented and fair video. I know what you mean about the grip angle display on the Transalp, totally superfluous. I find the range feature isn't something I rely on as it bases its calculation on the way you've been riding over a short period so can be inaccurate. I much prefer resetting the trip display (once I have got used to the approximate range of the machine).
There are ways around the range thing, but its absence annoyed me
Thank you Rm . At 6.40 you mentioned rubber damped bars and why all bikes don't have them. In the 70/80s the bar clamps were often mounted through the yoke enclosed in big rubber grommets, which helped isolate vibes, but wore quickly leading to the bars coming back towards you on acceleration, im sure they have improved the rubber consistency by now though. However there is concern by manufacturers that they dont rob too much feel through the bars, which any isolation may do. Personally though i prefer rubber mounts.
Thanks for your input👍😊
If they had that white paint scheme in Canada I would have likely gotten the Transalp, however i am ultra pleased with the 24 tiger rp. So many "options" as standard equipment sold me on it vs all their competitors.
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Don’t forget you have a six axis IMU with cornering ABS and cornering Traction Control. Love the Tiger 900 range, great choice. You could also try some straight 20mm bar risers along with the seat in the high position for that extra leg room.
Yes, I’m looking into risers
I think it's hard to beat Honda at price to performance ratio.
I agree
you get what you pay for
Awesome video! It really is quite beautiful there. I do like the Tiger and I did consider it. The problem was that the nearest dealer was about an hour away and the BMW dealership was 15 minutes. It is a very good looking bike. Best!
which bmw did you buy
Thanks. I totally understand the dealer distance thing
Only 1 hr., that's not a problem.
The legendary honda 😳🤌❤️🔥❤️🔥
I prefer the Tiger😉
Great comparison, thanks...love Triumph's, if only their Dealer network were a bit more estabilshed. Had an Algarve question, do you have a recommendation on a location to rent motorcycles. We will be visiting from Canada and staying in Lagos, there is one located in the downtown, but wanted to know if a local would have a recommendation.
I have worked with soulfulbikes.com in Faro in the past. They’re very professional and have a good choice of bikes. Tell them I sent you👍😊
I have ridden both. If they were the same price, I would still buy the Transalp. It just suits me better for the type of riding I do and gives way more feedback from the road surface. The Tiger felt disconnected, like a magic carpet. That may suit some people, but not me. Loving the Transalp!
Glad you got the right bike for you😊👍
Great video as always, still waiting for the Stelvio video.
Not sure what i´ll do next, since i am considering selling my KTM1290 SAS.
Ty RM
Still waiting for my MG dealer to get a demonstrator
@@RocketMan_Moto , you got me with that sexy voice, and clear, free bs, telling. ....i want Stelvio...please...hehe
Sure is a great looking bike. Expensive, though, for what it offers.
The comparison of Tiger 900 with Africa Twin seems more appropriate, closer price points
I have never owned an Africa Twin
Thanks.😊
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For the odometer part, you can set the shift indicator to “running in” mode so that it flashes according to your mileage.
Yes thanks, I’ve done that, but I’d still like to see where I am in the running-in process
I had the last gen tiger 900 rally pro. Loved the looks and how smooth it was to ride. However … I had to leave it in sports mode permanently to make the vibes any where close to acceptable and the screen was so noisy it was unbearable. I tried the Givi touring screen and this didn’t help either. Ended up selling it and getting a new street triple r (based, in part, on your glowing review). Glad the new tiger seems to have fixed those issues for you. Enjoy the sunshine. It hasn’t arrived in the UK yet!
The vibes are still there, but less so than on the previous generation😊
nice video comparison
if you have more money will you go for tiger 1200 or still the 900
I did think about the 1200, but I felt it would be too heavy off road for my limited skill level, and I don’t really like shaft drive. Plus, it’s €6k more😬
What gps/phone mount bracket do you have on your Tiger? I have the quad lock pro mount as you do, but on the bar. With a tank bag it's not ideal. It looks like the bracket mounted off the windscreen is a good solution. Agreed on all points in the video as well. I love my 2024 rally pro!
I fitted a €15 accessory bar from AliExpress. Surprisingly good quality and seems to work fine.
@@RocketMan_Moto that's what it looked like. I'll give it a try, thank you!
I had a 2012 Tiger XC and set the seat low at the rear and standard (high) at the front. This helped eliminate / minimize the forward lean. It was quite comfortable. Does the current Tiger offer the same flexibility?
I need to try that👍
An already good product too feel an improvement in general is almost never proportional to the price, the last mile to the top is exponential. I remember switching from M2 competition to a Porsche cayman gt4, 2 different work and price but m2 wasn’t 40% less fun to drive but 40% cheaper. If you can finance the more expensive it is always more rewarding in general and holding a better rest value.
Agreed
RM, to solve the reach/lower back ache with the Tiger you may wish to check out the Voigt range of bar risers. They are designed & made in Germany and the engineering is superb. I am 5’7” with a 29” leg and found the cockpit on my Tiger 850 Sport too much of a reach. Being of smaller dimensions I found the up & back risers a perfect solution to my problem and can now spend all day in the saddle without a single twinge. They do a range of different dimensions and they come in a presentation box that can be reused at Christmas for a suitable gift for Mrs RM. Hope this helps. KK
Great, thanks for the tip. I will have a look at their website now👍😊
I did 200 miles through the middle of Wales yesterday (amazingly it didn't rain) "making good progress" chasing a friend on a 1200GS in perfect comfort with not an ache or a twinge today. The bar risers along with Metzeler Tourance Next 2 tyres are the best improvements to my Tiger that I have made.
Thanks for the video. How is the Tiger in low speed handling compared to the Transalp? Of course, it's a heavier bike, but is it's weight noticeably higher?
Slightly bigger & heavier, but fuelling is better, making it easier to control
I am a new Transalp owner (guilty, I know), and I really like the Triumph, however the difference in price is substantial. I’ve added the cruise control (Veridian electronic), luggage and a LOT more and I’m still under the price of a new Tiger. Luckily I can do the very easy calculation of dividing the kilometres traveled by the litres used to determine range, so I don’t need a computer to tell me me how far I can still go. You wanted the Tiger, and that is fine and good, however, if one of your biggest gripes with the Transalp is the range indication, then your problem is not with the bike, its probably something else. You are not comparing apples with apples here. You should compare the Triumph with a another bike in its price class. That being said, your initial reviews was one of the biggest reason why I considered the Transalp. I then bought it because I really liked it and enjoy riding it. I am probably more brand loyal because I do not have to make TH-cam videos about new bikes, but I still value your opinion. To the new Tiger owners watching this…do not base your decisions on TH-cam opinions, because they change as quickly as the next model.😉
Thanks for your feedback👍😊
I've never met anybody who said that they had trouble with their Honda but, I have met couple who told me about their frustration with Triumph. I see them often at nearby dealership but, they have no appeal to me. Especially at their price point. I understand it is just my personal bias. I ride cheap crappy RE and KTM along with Yam and Honda 😄
I've owned 5 Triumphs, never had any issues
I think a lot of people myself included who own several bikes or cars tend not yo use them all much. I own 4 bikes a modern retro. A naked an old 2 stroke and a sports tourer and love them all but don't get out on them very much. If only one maybe two bikes could give me what my 4 bikes do. Its not the buying but the running costs. Anyway I hope you've made the right decision as that Triumph was a beauty that i would have struggled to part with for sure.
You’re right, not an easy decision but I think (hope🙏) it was the right one👍😊
Having enjoyed your channel over the years you certainly seem to change your bike very frequently (like me 😂), but I’ve noticed that you also have had a big journey changing from very different styles of bike. I’ve just had 3 bikes in 12 months. CBR650R - pretty good but a vibey motor and a very soft sports bike. That was changed to a GSX 8S, loved the torque but the wind blast was spoiling it. Just bought a Tuono 660 Factory without even seeing one in the flesh. I’m blown away with this faired naked bike. Components and night and day from the other bikes with the suspension. 6 axis IMU and the cruise control. Early days but I hope I finally found my unicorn shit 🤣
Heard lots of good things about the Tuono, but the dealer here is hopeless and never has any demo bikes :( Enjoy yours!
Interesting ive had a new 2023 sv650 and a new gsx8s in 2023/2024 and like the U2 song, I still haven't found what I'm looking for. I rode a friend's gs1250 recently and the comfort was noticeably better, streets ahead. So I know I want more comfort and have just started looking around. I want to stay under 1000cc, and I want something light. These are my 3 criteria. Comfort, weight, power.
That’s the thing once you’ve tried an adventure bike: all other types suddenly seem far too uncomfortable
There are vey good aftermarket forks and an assortment of shocks available from 1 supplier I know of in Europe.
There are others also.
In many decades of riding I have never wanted cruise control. Not even on 1 or 2 week long trips.
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Just got my 2024 Transalp, and I didn't have the fuel range indication issue, the bricks disappear as they should, after about the same distance. Maybe it was a software bug which got fixed in the meantime, or they changed the fuel level sensor for the 2024 model. And I totally agree that the grip angle indicator is useless.
I miss grip angle. Not😂
The price is not important it's the bike that puts a smile on your face.
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Am thinking what bike to get once the move to the Algarve is complete. I would love another NC750X as I loved the one I used to have, but the new ones are too cramped for me because of the lower seat. I sat on the Transalp but it is just as cramped. I have a 3 ft inseam. On which website are bikes advertised in the Algarve ?
A lot more expensive, but these Tiger Rally Pros - either 900 or 1200 - are pretty big and could suit you. In any case, I think mid- or full-size adventures are the perfect bikes for the Algarve.
I have to admit it I guessed wrong and thought you were going for the 1300gs! One of the things that puts me off triumph 900's is 12k miles valve service intervals, that's a €1k bill every year or so....
True. Only about €300 here in Portugal, though
Service interval was changed to 18k for new engine
@@Mosmos993 ah? Thanks
I'm not a fan of bikes like this, but I don't doubt it works well. I have an old Buell XB12X Ulysses which is going back on the road when I get back next month. Torque like your old 1200. I rode down to the Algarve from London on it for a holiday back in 2008. Probably the best bike I've ever had. It doesn't even have ABS, let alone all the clutter modern bikes do.
Enjoy the Triumph for a few months. Nick
Thanks, Nick😊👍
Do you even consider Africa twin base model ,, by the way your explanations are very good, very useful.. thank's!
Thank you. I'm not a fan of the Africa Twin :)
looks like you have an SW motech tank bag on the tiger , could you do a review as? I am thinking of getting one
It will feature in my next 2 Tiger videos👍😉
Try risers for the handlebar, could solve your seat hight issue...
Looking into them👍😊
I love the green colour and wish they had that colour on the GT. As for the odometer problem, same on the Trident. I check the mileage on the Triumph App under Garage.
Haven’t been able to connect yet🤦♂️
@RocketMan_Moto I can't help you with that. My Samsung S9 connected the first time, and my new S23 also had no problems.
I have an iPhone :(
Don't worry about the lack of fuel range indicator. They're not that accurate and one of the trip meters does a good job of you get in the habit of zeroing it when filling up. I find fuel consumption to be pretty steady on modern bikes.
I do enjoy having it on the Tiger, though😊
After your review I tried the Tiger 900 Rallye for 2 hours on twisties. Agree with most, nice bike, comfortable, good handling. But a major oversight in your video (I hope I did not miss it) is the engine cooling vents that send hot air over your legs. I live in the tropics, but 30-35C temperatures are seasonal about everywhere and the really hot airstream is a total nono.
This was a big issue with the 20-23 Tiger 900s, but they have largely fixed it with the 2024
@@RocketMan_Moto thanks. I will ask the dealer. Here it is quite plausible that the last before is in the showroom. Otherwise I maybe tempted, as well as figuring out what the cost of upgrading to the same standards a Transalp is.
I'm walking your path Sir.. trying to sell my speed twin 1200 due to the exact same reasons n get a Tiger 900 GT
If it's any comfort, I don't regret my move one bit. Yes, the ST 1200 has a fabulous engine (and looks), but that's about it - the Tiger can do everything and it's waaaay more practical and comfortable. Hope your transition goes as well :)
@RocketMan_Moto will keep you updated.. thankyou for the video ❤️
I question a Triumph being “premium” just because they say it is. A couple years ago I was comparing a Triumph Street Scrambler with a Suzuki 650 V-Strom. For less money, the Suzuki had tubeless spoked wheels, two front brake discs, a larger fuel tank, a full fairing and windshield, more instrumentation, and was built in Japan. (The Triumph in Thailand I think) The Suzuki also had a V-twin engine, a plus to me. I didn’t see much value in the Triumph, but I agree it was better looking. But shouldn’t premium be about more than looks, and the name on the tank?
Fair enough👍
Hello from Sheffield South Yorkshire love your channel can you let me know what’s the tail bag you have on the tiger
Thanks. I grew up in Hull, so know Yorkshire well😊 It’s an SW Motech Ion S. I have several tail bags, but thought this old one suited the Tiger quite well.
@@RocketMan_Moto love the east coast but the weather is not as good as where you are now 😂 many thanks stay safe
I get regular weather updates from my sister, who is still there 🌧️
l own last years 900 tiger rally pro, and agree with your thought, if only Honda had put tubeless rims , put me off buying one straight away. if you spent 3000 euros on parts plus the price of the Honda you must have been nearly at the same price, well in the UK it would have worked out about £1000 more to buy the Triumph !!!!
I had €3000 of equipment on the Transalp at the end, but most of it was sent to me FOC by the manufacturers😊
I’m riding a 22 900 GT Pro. It’s flawless. It’s like a Toyota Corolla, never skips a beat. Only complaint might be lack of character. I’m an old fart raised on Nortons and Ducatis. But just a joy to ride.
Agreed. The extra power for 2024 gives it a bit more character😊
Hola! Very quiet... You riding all the time or is the bike in the shop?
Still riding😊
Thanks, bud…another well delivered comparison & review…I’m with you on your decision to sell the 2-bikes for the benefit of riding one overall better bike…of course, it’s a personal decision-and yes, I do have an uncanny ability to state the obvious😏…I own a 2022 GT model…and as far as I am concerned, it’s THE Swiss Army Knife of bikes-versatility at its best…I’m 67 years old and it suits me well-performance, practically, with a-little pizazz…and, as are your reviews🤠👍
Thanks for your kind words, Ben. Yes, I loved my Speed Twin… as a ‘work of art’. Problem was that I never used it. The Tiger is objectively superior in every way😊
I certainly can relate, I also own a semi-modified Speedmaster of my creation that I could sit and gaze at longer than a coastal sunset, but are at a point where I will be parting with it…reluctantly 😔
Totally understand that. Tbh, I haven’t missed my Speed Twin at all. I thought I would, at least a bit, but 2 months on still nothing😑
That Tiger 900 has the ability to make almost anything nothing more than a distant memory…mile after mile😊👍
Agreed. A really good bike. Undoubtedly the best I’ve owned so far👍
I recall that the previous Tiger model you had tested (back in 2021 ?) didn't suit you for a list of reasons, one of them was the lack of power. Is the 2024 one really that different and improved?
Good memory! Yes, the new engine feels more meaty👍😊
Always nice to know that women know there knobbly……….tyres 😳😄👍🏻
Haha :)
If I remember correctly you were concerned about engine heat on the vstrom 800DE. I live in the sub tropics and find engine heat on my 2018 tiger xrt nearly unbearable in summer. Several friends with the tiger 900 report similar engine heat. I recently took the 800DE for an extensive test ride and loved the low and mid range torque. What surprised me was the LACK of engine heat! Almost certainly my next bike and IMO so much more preferable to the Honda transalp for my off-roading. I would be interested to hear if you have noticed significant engine heat with your new wheels? 🏍️🏍️🏍️
I haven't yet (the 2024 model has had tweaks to the air ducts), but of course we haven't had any serious heat here so far
I’ve always felt the current batch of Tigers are quite attractive, if slightly Darkwing Duck-looking (dating myself here). The TransAlp while no doubt a great bike just looks so…average? More related to the NC750X/CB500X than the quite stunning Africa Twin.
I hope the Tiger will treat you well. As I said before I believe that fewer but better bikes will make you happier than more bikes that you end up not riding enough. And I’ll be right there to buy it pre-owned in a few years ^^
Thanks👍😊
There was one question I hoped would be answered, but alas. Knee angle. I bought the NX500 as a starter bike, but I'm already thinking ahead to next year. I have bad knees, so the knee angle on the NX500 is less than comfortable. I'm 1m86cm. The transalps pegs are more forward, allowing for a more comfortable knee angle, and I was considering that bike to be next. But the tiger 900 has caught my eye. I am in the luxurious position that prices are of no concern to me, I just need something more comfortable for my knees, back and backside 😅. Sitting straight up is a must for me. You are about my height, so, in comparison to the transalp, how is the knee angle on the tiger in either seat height?
Knee angle is slightly better on the Tiger, but only with the seat in the high position.
I must disagree.😅 The pegs on the Tiger (that I test rode today) are considerably more backwards (compared to the Transalp’s). For me the Transalp is more comfy on my knees (have the same problems there).
Joachim, did you ride the gt pro or the rally pro?
Having this same debate with Tiger 900 and Suzuki's Vstrom 800DE. I want the features and also don't want to worry about bashing about offroad. With leftover prices, you could buy 2 vstroms for the tiger's asking price. Triumph really needs to come up with an 850 Offroad rally stripped down, but with spoked tubeless rims, cruise and a big handlebar button to turn off ABS/TIC (like on the 2017 and older tiger 1200's)
Both bikes are no "offroad" at any means. This is just marketing. They are too heavy, too big engines. You cannot compensate weight by skills, too much power is an obstacle not advantage.
This mandess i evolving and evolving...
Thanks for your input 👍😊
I too traded my speedtwin for a Tiger. Much roomier and one of the better looking adv bikes 🍻
Oh yes👍😊
Have you ridden Tuareg 660? Can't find bad word about it. I'm getting too many punctures on my Honda, tubeless seem a better option
A bit too off-road focused for my needs
Hi Mr. RM. I'm from the Philippines and am presently visiting Portimao in the Algarve. I also own a transalp back home and was looking at the triumph as a replacement.
Would be nice to meet you in person and exchange notes on these bikes.
Thank you for the offer, but I don't do meet-ups, I'm afraid. Just too many offers from viewers :) I hope you enjoy your time in Portimão, fabulous weather this week!
Yes the weather is perfect today!
Good move.
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Has the bike got the bridgestone A41 tyres i saw them on the F900GS adventure they looked really Narrow. The Karoo 4 on the F900GS looked a lot better.
Yes, they’re the A41s. Good grip, but they do look skinny😟
How is the engine heat management of ur Triumph
Vsv the Transalp 750.
What kinda lower gear do u need to wear Inorder to survive
Say about 60 mins of slow traffic in the city at an avg speed of 16 kmph
I often wear just simple jeans / trousers and crocks sandles ( not riding boots) while doing mere 15 km runs to retail stores or office in slow traffic and hot humid weather ( 35 deg centigrade)
On my Transalp 750.
In the beggining the heat felt terrible.
Now I am just used to it..
The Transalp was the best (the least hot) bike I've ever ridden. So far I haven't been able to really test the Tiger, as it's only warm here for the moment (about 22-24°C). As for gear, you should really wear proper boots, jacket and gloves all the time, but I understand that when it's very hot, this is extremely difficult.
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Thank you sire... That helps a lot..
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Thank you sire... That helps a lot..
You're welcome :)
There are now a few plug n play aftermarket cruise control options for the Transalp from as little as £250.
I was sent one but didn’t install it. I was advised by Honda that it would void my warranty and possibly my insurance too🤔
I agree with the insurance angle, but given it plugs into the diagnostic port it could easily be removed before returning the bike to a dealer for servicing. Probably worth the risk if you were picking up an older second hand bike though.
Yes, once out of warranty
I think for most of the time & use: o n e bike is enough & will be driven at least in a proper way. When I had two, there was always one standing around in the garage.
Ok, if money isn’t the point, you can even have 3 or 4 then.
For me it’s generally difficult to spend so much money in one bike. Well, under 20 k € it’s still ok, but already a lot of money (I could put in bicycle or travelling). My VW Passat 1.4 TSI Comfort line (one year old, 25 k km) cost 20 k € - so it’s a c a r 😅😅😅
But to be honest: I’m in love with the SpeedTwin, that’s why I’ll keep my 1200 GS (2012, 7.6 k €) & try to get a cheap & wonderful SpeedTwin (& there we are 🙄🤷🏻♂️)
Fazit: I guess every time & moment in life there will be reasons for one or rather more bikes - in your situation it’s time for sth. new & well performing: this wonderful o n e Tiger Rally Pro 2024 ❤
My thoughts exactly 👍😊
I am seeing and hearing some national preference!!! But if you can do an Italian accent maybe you can add a Ducati Desert X it does something a little, not that much different.. Ducati jacked the price near $19000 and has a 24 months unlimited warranty. Italian bike has similar features..In the US Italian and British bikes are still considered exotic because of very limited dealership support..I enjoy riding both but can't own one living in Baja for 8 years..in a few big Mexican cities there are Triumph and Ducati dealers ( Mexico City,& Monterrey) but few and far far between
Thanks for your input. No Ducati dealers in the Algarve, unfortunately😟
What tank bag do you use :)?
SW Motech Pro City, but it's a bit awkward. I'll be talking about this in my next videos.
Sir, nice narration as always, ... did you not consider Tracer 9 GT ? .... it's a similar 900cc Triple, but it's not a true Crossplane Triple like the Tiger 900 having a T-plane Crank, Triumph has installed the crankpins at 0°, 90°, and 180° .... combined with 1,3,2, firing order.
To call Yamaha's CP3 engine a CrossPlane is a misnomer, as it's a regular inline-Three like Trident 660, Street-Triple, Speed-Triple 1200, MV Agusta F3 ... with 180° Crank & 1-2-3 Firing Order
(I saw the whole video, but forgot if you mentioned Yamaha in the video)
Please correct me if I'm gravely mistaken in my assessment ... Thanks, Regards from India.
I have 4 Bikes : 2021 Trident 660, 2024 Scrambler 400X, 2022 Gen 3 Hayabusa, 2023 XDiavel
Sold my 2020 KTM 390 Duke & 2023 Yamaha R15
Nice garage👍 The Tracer 9 has a fabulous engine, but the fit & finish is below par🙁
@@RocketMan_Moto ok sir thanks 🙏
Hi there, what is the valve clearence service interval on the tiger pls?
Every 20,000km / 12,000 miles
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The tiger seems like a really nice bike odometer thing is pretty weird. Bet Mrs RM would take that Jag over any of yr bikes😊
Oh yes😎
I do not know much about the Honda Transalp,,but I had a NC700 and found it so so boring !!!! I kindof fancy a big ish ADV bike (god forbid not a GS) and also fancy a Truimph,, the 900 never crossed my mind ,but I have to say it does now,,the way RM rationalises purchases I find really helpful in my own purchasing decisions.. I think it was a deal breaker having a servcing agreement... regards
The Transalp has a completely different engine to the NC700/750. Much more exciting.
was the speed twin cramped...really? I'm about your height and was always drawn to the speed twin because I thought it had ample leg room
It wasn’t uncomfortable per se, but my legs were definitely more cramped than on adventure bikes (obviously)🤔
I get why you consolidated but I'm fond of having 2 very different bikes (like you had) so you can flip bikes to suit the weather/mood/journey. (I've got an Africa Twin and a Speed Triple)
i miss having an sv650 for commuting and weekend twisty road fun, an africa twin for touring and a DR650 for rougher singles with offroading mates...tldr you can be fond of something, but sometimes your needs just change, and so the garage changes in kind.
Perfect combination😊👍
Why do I get the feeling, a certain 400 will arrive soon. 😉
Why does nobody trust me?😩
A rational being would buy a 650 Versys and stop at that. However, a being filled with passion would experiment with multiple, more powerful motorcycles, and never look back. As soon as one applies the math, it sucks the soul out of the 2-wheel experience. Just keep buying, riding, and enjoying whilst you are able to do so.
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Despite many TH-camrs espousing the virtues of the Transalp to the hills, I found the bike totally underwhelming. Everything seemed budget on it, the suspension, the finish, the dash and controls. And another thing that annoyed me was nothing was standard. Want a bash plate, that's extra; want a quickshifter, that's extra; want wind deflectors, that's extra and so on and so on. I found the motor lively but lacking low down torque. It was comfy however, but not as comfy as some as the seat cushioning once again seemed budget. The Rally Pro is on my short-list along with the Norden 901 to replace my Tenere. The Transalp didn't even make the cut as much as I wanted it to having owned the 1st gen model and taken that halfway around the world. Oh well, it is a motorcycle built to a price.
It is built to a price and is missing some niceties, but I had a lot of fun on it in the year I owned it, and that’s priceless😊👍
Recently sat on the Norden & found the seat very wide & uncomfortable just in the showroom.good luck ahead. I'm still happy with my 17 Honda AT.
Interesting. No Husqvarna dealers here in the Algarve unfortunately
Just by way of an update, I went back and rode the Transalp again....twice. I wanted to like it but just couldn't! It seemed so 'budget' that it was kind of anathema to the Honda doctrine. Seeing as I was eager to replace my Tenere with something a bit more touring, it came down to the Norden or the Tuareg - I wanted cruise! The twist in the tale was reading up on the KTM Camsaft forums whereby record numbers of camshafts were failing in the 790/890 so KTM and by default Husqvarna were out. Tuaregs have a waiting list, so I turned my sights to the second hand market. In the end, I picked up a 2015 Tiger 800 XCX for $8k, with a ton of extras including cruise and heated everything, which was half the price of the Transalp and had twice as many features. Plus, it had under 30k km! I just cannot see the value in the Honda, but the Tiger, wow, what a bike! You have made the right decision Rocketman!