Why Paul Mooney, Eddie Murphy, & Keenen Ivory Wayans's 'Black Pack' Ended - Here's Why
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- www.comedyhype... - At one point in time; Eddie Murphy, Paul Mooney, Robert Townsend, Keenen Ivory Wayans, and Arsenio Hall formed a group called 'The Black Pack' and from that an iconic photo was created. But why did it end and how did it start? Instagram: @ComedyHype & Twitter: @ComedyHype_
Idk why they don't give Robert Townsend his props he made so many things possible in comedy and paved ways for other black comedians
Every guy on that pic was already successful before Townsend.
Robert was more "wholesome" and digestible (less threatening) to certain audiences so TO SOME his success isn't as valid.....sad but (debatably) true.
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Because he did Hollywood shuffle ,phantom punch movies exposing hidden truths
Hell, in MY opinion, "Harlem Nights" AND "Life" were "Black Pack" movies 🤷🏽♂️
Most definitely
Exactly!!! Don’t forget Boomerang (Martin, David Allen Greer, John Witherspoon, etc) tons of black stars last and present!!!
@@thomasharris5151 yeah Eddie looks out
Yeah, for sure.
Metorman as well.
This brother did a great job breaking this all down.
I agree
Yep that’s journalism!
The writer did.
This brother did a great job imitating a PS3 character while representing this.
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I'm still amazed at how these guys with very little financial support can make classics that still are watched to this day. Raw, Hollywood Shuffle and the famous cult classic Five Heartbeats. Shows we're the chosen people of the book and the light of the world. We've always had to make a dollar out of 15 cent. I'm sad to say that the politically correct culture killed future classics. Comedy isn't comedy if you can't satirically pick on popular culture without being cancelled.
And that’s why I buy or stream oldies but goodies. I miss laughing til I can’t breathe or laughing till you start crying you don’t get that from from the comedians of today even Dave Chappell don’t make me laugh like his half bake days or Chappell Show when he was unfiltered free to speak on any and everyone without people getting butt hurt over jokes
Black Excellence!!
The fact that Robert Townsend & Keenan couldn't get anyone to finance Hollywood Shuffle, so they made the movie opening up a bunch of credit cards is the ultimate hustle.
@@sonna4298 We're the salt of the earth, lively stones. Salt means flavor. We've always had to take the smallest things and make them out of gold.
I hear what you're saying but comedy isn't being phased out with "cancel culture" Dave Chappelle proves that. Remember when Dave told everybody what they can do after he won that award well if cancel culture really exists he wouldn't have won that award. 👨🏽🦱👌🏽
You misspoke, "the closet we have come to seeing a group of A-list black comedians together " was NOT the SNL with Morgan, Rock, Murphy, and Chappelle. It was Harlem Nights with Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, Redd Foxx, Arsenio Hall, Robin Harris, and Reynaldo Rey.
Agree.
Tony H nice pic! I agree.
I was thinking 🤔 the same thing. Maybe the youngster was referring to Murphy’s contemporaries. Foxx, Pryor, and the late Robin Harris were the older generation of comedians
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Don’t forget about Life. Eddie Murphy, Martin Lawrence, Guy Torry, Bernie Mac, Anthony Anderson
Great breakdown. But one thing he forgot was 'Robert Townsends Partners In Crime' sketch show that came out in 1988 that featured Keenan and also had Damon, Shawn, Kim and Marlon in skits, Paul Mooney was also part of it as well.
YUP. It was on Fox!
Thank you for the partners in crime reference. I had been racking my brain trying to remember the name of it.
@@ArtemisUnderscoreJ Partners In Crime was on HBO. But you were right about his other show that was on FOX called 'Townsend Television', which aired in '93.
@@jr9655 💯
I ve been searching for that for years online
The movies Harlem Nights”, Boomerang” and “Life” might have been Eddie’s attempt to give black comedians their shine and he got slammed by the Hollywood critics for those movies.
Yeah because they wanted the buffoon Eddie Murphy! But it was his fault for caving in to what they wanted. whites hated his role in boomerang! i remember the billboard for his movie that followed boomerang it read...the eddie murphy that we all know and love!...i believe it was called the distinguished gentleman.
Eddie saw Chris Rock do stand up and approached him afterwards and asked him did he want a role in his new film. That was Boomerang. Chris said it was the first time he ever saw black people with money and in positions of power.
What about his HBO special up town comedy express from 1987.
All three of those movies were loved by most black people. If you tell the average black movie lover that those movies were not successful or heavily criticized by movie critics they will be shocked. I know those movies so well I can recite full dialog from them. So eventhough they got slammed by Hollywood critics they are extremely popular with African American movie lovers, which was the audience they were made for.
Critics don't know shit.
Robert Townsend is SO underrated. You didn't mention his Partners in Crime shows. While I was definitely a fan of Pee Wee back in the day I never knew he was an honorary Black Pack member...I must know I got to know how/why that happened
All Def is probably the closet thing we have to a Black collective of comedians and talent... KevOnStage , Tahir Moore, Patrick Cloud, Tony Baker, Precious Hall, Teddy Ray, DoBoy, "CP" Chris Powell , and uh I guess Billy Sorells 😆😆😆 but yeah you get the point
I was just thinking that! #SquADD
Facts
The one thing Eddie did was bring 3 generations of comics 2gether in Harlem Night's
Harlem Nights is 1 of the greatest comedies ever
THANK YOU
WE DONT TALK ABOUT KENAN AND ROBERT. Greatness and brilliance
"I help put the Black pack together, right after I stole Eddie's Rolex"
-TK Kirkland
It was Charlie's Rolex.. 🙄
The Eddie Murphy line when first meeting Arsenio Hall was hilarious! 🤣
Shin!!!!
@@teasystableent What up, homie? 😊
Yall shouldve put more respect on Paul Mooney's name and all his accomplishments. He was a ICON by himself !
Robert Townsend aswell he definitely needs more respect on his name
It's funny when he was alive and In failing health y'all wanted to crucify him calling him a rapest and a homosexual now that he's gone it's Paul Mooney is the best there ever was🤦🏾♀️🤨
@@tgirl1762 They do this shit all the time. Lol. These fans come out the woodwork. I wasn't a huge Paul Mooney fan but I'm not gonna act like I was in on his act myself.
@@kawaiiafangirl All the time!!! You might as well call them waves the way they flow back and forth between admiration and disdain 🤦🏾♀️
@@tgirl1762 real rap but its the real ones that know my Pops use to play him and Richard Pryor albums the real one all ready knew he was gay so it was no need to trip its them fake ones that condemned him with the BS
They need to have a documentary about this because it is one of those " what ifs" that Hollywood doesn't want to be talked about
Hollywood could care less.......what about this would be worthy to create one?? Nothing at all. Had they all got along and not been so suspect of each other there would be an empire.......not the way it went down
Damn a what if. Eddie pulling them 2gether with My Name Is Dolemite & Coming 2 America. Kevin Hart wants 2 remake Uptown Saturday Night.Kev could really b the face.bring n Katt, Mike,Godfrey,Luenell, Haddish, Monique etc I mean tear the game 2 shreds
Mooney was the writer, Eddie was the star, and Keenan was the leader
Arsenio was the sidekick and Robert Townsend was the driver.
@@AnarkeeSoundVibes lol don’t do that to them Townsend and Hall did a lot especially Townsend
Don’t forget about spike lee and Matty rich
Mooney was the writer!? I always thought eddie came up with his own shit....Im not a fan of mooney personally
@@williamhollaway1960 Without Paul Mooney Black Comedy would still be on the Chitlin Circuit.
I think the Black Pack still exists but behind the scenes. Which is how nepotism should work.
Yes indeed. You move in silence when you're surrounded by foes
Agree. These guys are from the generations that don't share on social media. If you've listened to any recent Eddie Murphy interviews, he often mentions getting together with his fellow comedians. Kevin Hart mentions dinners he has with Eddie and others as well.
People forget that Eddie behind the scenes used his clout to open doors for Kevin Hart & Dave Chappelle. Eddie also opened doors for music artists behind the scenes.
@@bhlakbatosai ? Dave started at 14 and it was on his own detriment.
@@AshChildOfGod yes, but around when he was the standup comedian character in Nutty Professor, Eddie has talked to people to give him a shot behind the scenes.
Imagine! Just imagine if all of the packs collaborated on multiple projects on/off screen for dayzzzz this whole time! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣♥️🩺...flatline...⚰💀🤣🤣🤣
That part! 😎
In honour of mooney Eddie should put something together ... Tracey Morgan can't play the bafoon every time tho .
It's HONOR SWEETIE, IJS😊😊
Eddie selfish...stole from Rudy and very disrespectful. Hope he come out before he leave this World. Now that would a great movie..producing 10 kids on the DL...he beat Quincy. Lol. Just joking. I think I'm Paulette Mooney
Buffoon bruv
@@michelleferguson17 "Honour" is the British spelling, so he's not wrong either.
I think Harlem nights was the greatest assembly of black comedians
Keenan had his family. Eddie was a loaner. Robert Townsend put Keenan on to begin with.taught him producing and Keenan went behind the camera. All his movies are full of his family in the credits.
Keenan was basically Master P before Master P 🤣
Eddie and Keenan were together a lot back then
@@alialmomen187 robert townsend was around them too
Charlie Murphy was behind the scenes with his brother Eddie.
Funny. Paul Mooney old enough to be Eddie's dad but yet looks just as young or younger than the rest of the crew.
This picture is everything
Your face is everthing!
Lotta power in that photo. The first time I saw it was in Paul Mooney's book.
Keenan and Arsenio fell out for a min due to Keenan impersonating him on In Living Color.
This was dope! Never knew Pee Wee had a hood pass. I need to know how that went down.
Yep....and he used it to get in that theater that he got caught jerkin off in.lol
@@ADTVent the porn theater right?
@@jhoninfante8683 absolutely 😆
Doin white ppl shit and forget he was black🤣🤣🤣
@@dallasharlem1385 right lol😂
It's imperative that they do a project together especially since the passing of paul that would be huge especially in today's community this would tear the roof off
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Add Chappelle to the original pack lineup and I'm definitely for it
Kevin Hart group is called the plastic cup Boys LOL 🤣
You can laugh all you want at what they call themselves but, these MFS funny as shit. Check them out oh, I promise you won't be disappointed.
Giggling like girls.
@@michelleferguson17 oh yeah ok I'll have to catch one of them whenever I can 👍🏽
Lol i like that name better than black pack
Probably because a lot of black peoples got together every week and drank alcoholic beverages, coke, punch out of red plastic cups and ate good food…
Plastic cup Boyz don't count (insert period) now peewee joining wow that's interesting
Yep, that was interesting information.
It is and I dead want to know why they made him a member now. Get on it Comedy Hype!
Pee wee was too busy playing with himself in his playhouse!
@@regvision heeeyy...he paying rent there...let him do him lml. Besides i play with myself in my playhouse all the time...but thats enough info for today lol
6:00 for FINALLY putting to bed that lie, that a bunch of "hater" comedians keep repeating, that came from Vlad. "well, Keenan and Robert co-wrote RAW. You see their names in the writing portion." Even though if you look at that "writing portion" it shows "the opening." Which used the actor who played "Bud" from the Cosby's as a young Eddie, telling dirty jokes to his family's friends.
You can tell raw had Keenan’s and Robert’s writing all over it‼️‼️
@@LonokeCountyResearch501 bruh....it wasn't, IF he had discussions with his friends prior, as was discussed, that's influence. As they influenced each other. That doesn't mean they wrote ANYTHING. They would be credited as such, they aren't. They ARE credited for the beginning sketch and directing. THAT'S IT. This isn't Kevin Hart. Stop spreading that lie, let it die with Vlad's snitching channel...
@@zod4365 call it what you want to but I know bullshit when i see it and hear it 🤷🏾♂️‼️ they wrote more than what they got credit for‼️‼️
@@LonokeCountyResearch501 lol "I can just tell...." well sir, play the lottery
I believe Eddie mentioned that Keenan wrote the opening segment to Raw and I wouldn't be surprised if Robert Townsend co-wrote that portion as well.
For that golden moment, they were the Wu-Tang Clan of Black Comedy.
It almost seems as if there was a sort of systematic separation of each of these men’s careers. Trying to attain a certain kind of influence in Hollywood is hard enough for a black man, so it seems that the Opportunities and venues created for these men weren’t ever going to come together...?
Pretty much niggahs got some real money and forgot to keep the pack together. I'm sure now after it's all said and done they regret it, but it's too late now so be it. Maybe the next black pack will keep things intact
@@demikpre Like he pretty much said without really saying it... it was the different "camps"
Facts bro no almost
That's stupid, cause each of them were millionaires by the 90s and could have funded their own movies and projects especially together. They just did what all Black people do as soon as they get BIG forget about building and creating community
@@JSmoothSoul damn, why it got to be stupid, Smooth Soul…?
Anyhoo… we might have to respectfully disagree because it’s obvious that holistically Black affiliated people take advantage of community in a way from people who have their blackness described for them, i.e. politically black people. At the end of the day, I only see one out of the five as Legendary anyway and he just passed away. Robert Townsend comes in at second and he definitely has given more opportunities to people of color, specifically black men, than any of those individuals… Besides Paul Mooney. I have receipts.
A movie about a slave with super powers! Get Jordan Peele on the phone now 😎🙏🏿
Right 😂😂💯
🤣🤣🤣
it would just be luke cage/ power man.
They already made that movie, it was called "The Green Mile" and starred Michael Clarke Duncan and Tom Hanks
What the fuckk Peewee Hermon was apart of the blackpack too?!? 🤣😭
Peewee in der lol lol who would've thought lol
@@OrganicallyLuxeLifePEE WEE HERMAN???? NGGGAPLZ
Why is it w/t can work together, sponsor each other, and finance one another’s visions, ideas and goals.
It’s almost as if the “Willie Lynch” letter was the end all be all PLAN After 450 + years !!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes Hollywood broke them up I agree 💯😢
One thing I just noticed is that Robert Townsend was never on the ‘Arsenio Hall
Show’. Even Keenan was on ‘Arsenio’ before ‘In Living Color. Eddie was always on the show, Mooney was on a couple of times, but Townsend never. Could it have been because of Arsenio getting hired for ‘The Late Show’ instead of him!
Never knew that!
The history in this video is incredibly rich. Keep this content coming!
They also left out fallen Black Packer, the late *Robin Harris* , who was just starting his career during the Pack's height in popularity.
“We will never play the Rambos until we stop playing the Sambos.” ~ Paul Mooney in Hollywood Shuffle
Hall, Mooney, Murphy, Townsend and Wayans was a super talented and gifted group(Black Pack)! Makes you think what Magic could've happened if everyone would've stayed committed? Everyone had different perspectives on what they wanted to do at that point in time with their opportunities! Show business is show business!👍👍
We need more of black unity like this
ALL that legenderiness in one photo!! I love it!!! I would love to see my living comedic legends get together for a major project. That in itself would be epic!! Hopefully they will do it for if nothing else for their fans!! Awesome video!!
U missed the part when Keenan and Hall had a following out which made Keenan do sketches on Arsenio Hall on In Living Color 🤣🤣
Following out or falling out?
Does Kevin actually put Pcb in his movies though
Choosing violence, I see 🤣🤣
I had to pause the vid to look at the picture to see if I recognized them from any movies. No I did not lol smh.
NO
They always conquered blk folks by separation. They offered everyone there own thang & it was their own thangs that killed the dream. It happens 2 everyone. So wuts the score of "divid & conquer" vs "stick togetherness". Oh "divid & conquer" wins.
Lol For the first time I confused Arsenio Hall with Wesley Snipes🤭🤭🤭🤭 (photo in the thumbnail) and i’m laughing so hard because I remember Arsenio talking about people confusing him with Wesley in a video and I was like who in their damn mind would confuse those two guy? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please Wesley is a man and a beautiful Strong Coffee guy. O love him in Waiting to exhale. Undisputed touch me.
Sheryl Underwood said that..confused her with Wesley and Bernie Mac
@@donaway6 OMG Bernie Mac😂 Wanda Sykes says that she was confused with Lenny Kravitz 😂
@@mitsuomits9077 did her view count?
@@candysalters7853 what do you mean?
Interesting information 🤔. Thank you for sharing because I did not know any of this. I was a fan of most of them and they still make me 😅
Those five brothers are too much for Hollywood to handle! The 5 of them together, even in one film, will be epic!
first
His cousin Ray Ray Eddie tha Realest Hilarious
All that mattered was that they were successful and friends.
Off and on....Eddie, Keenan and Robert yes but even they had their issues.
She’s Gotta Have it and Hollywood Shuffle in my view released one year apart deserve credit for the black film renaissance.
momma's cooking 🍳
With all this talent and money made, it’s a shame that Black Hollywood is separated. Why can’t we bring money together on this level and create something for Black creatives so they don’t have to wait for others to give them permission. I know there are platforms, but there should be one large platform. We don’t do well coming together.
Too last long in hollyweird means you have to kiss the ring of the handlers and im not talking about the ring finger 🧐
Here's their first mistake. Thinking they can mimic an iconic group. You can not remake, mimic, or compare yourself to the ones that did it first. Don't try to be something your not. Be something new and original. As cool as it was to see all them in one photo and be a group. Don't be something your not. That was their mistake. There is only one "Rat Pack".
How did Pee Wee Herman get a bl*ck pass 🙄🤦🏾♀️🤣 I swear our people always gotta include the non color folks smh
Anyway that would have been dope pack if they had continued together ❤💯
Here’s a Black Pack few movies... Harlem Night, LIFE, Boomerang these movies had (Eddie, Arsenio, Pryor, Redd Fox, Della Reese, Martin, Chris rock, Etha Kitt, grace Jones, Bernie Mack, David Allen Greer, John Witherspoon, etc) tons of black stars last and present!!!
Peewee Herman???? But WHY……
That’s one strange, perverted dude!
Don’t like him, nor do I find him FUNNY!
What exactly did he bring to that group of men?
Very odd….
Wow it’s just like a grp of black ppl to make a yt person an “honorary” member....for what?? This is why the image of JUST black ppl doing something great is so rare and needed. Stop look g for whyte validation and stop trying to be inclusive all the damn time. We don’t have room to spare right now. That spot cld went to a REAL brotha 🤦🏾♀️
Wanna see K-Rob do more videos seem very passionate about what he does. Good job @ComedyHype
Hell egos get in the way, and everything is done......
Y'all need to go back and watch Townsends movie Hollywood Shuffle. It's basically about how Hollywood loves to make stereotypical movies about black people. Townsend telling the truth is probably why he didn't reach his full potential. I remember someone mentioned the Black Pack to Arsenio Hall while appearing on his show and Arsenio quickly chimed in that he was not a part of that.
Bro, da ones dat made me laugh da most were in Living Color cast, i loved Sammy Davis jr laugh. Sammy Davis jr with Dino were awsome, Arsenio was Hilarious. Young Eddie murphy needless to say
Thanks for the info lil brother...But I have a question...Why are you constantly throwing up the Illuminati hand signal🤔
I know Joey Wells he used to perform Clem Daniels End Zone Bar and Grill and comedy also I know Katt Williams he used to go by the name of Cat in the Hat Joey Wells used to go by j-dub
Is he saying Merthie? Or Murphy? 🤨 🤔
What Happened? They had their meetings at Lauren Bacall & Humphrey Bogarts House. End Of Story!
The white media couldn't handle it. Why no Denzel and Will Smith?
This was great!
“The closest we’ve come to seeing a group of A-list black comedians together is when Eddie hosted SNL...”.
What? Maybe I missed the point. Was it only about contemporaries?
1) Did you see Harlem Nights? Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, Redd Fox, Arsenio Hall
2) They literally stood there on SNL. ( Enjoyed every moment though)😁
I can tell the world that I knew Paul Moody our first met Paul at soulbeat generic cable channel owned by the late Chuck Johnson and I was on stage with Paul at the Black Repertory Theater in Berkeley California I asked him about Richard Pryor he told me he did not want to talk about Richard Pryor now I know why
They could have changed the comedy game in Hollywood forever. . .😮🤔🤩
All of them are Heavyweights 🔥
Man I remember watching The Robert Townson show and Pops from Friday was a cast member
Kevin Hart is the only one out the PCB anyone know. A reach....lol
Too much melanin at one time for pinky...divide and conquer...pale supremacy 1.1
They call it the willie lynch effect ‼️💯💯💯💯
That was just some “comedy hype” back in the day
Great video, just wasn't much said about Paul. Which I can understand as most his success is behind the scenes. But Paul Mooney wrote for Eddie and Richard Pryor's stand ups. He also wrote on In Living Color and the Chappelle Show, dude is a super legend. He's behind alot of the works we consider to be classic.
I agree, these brothers could've done some outstanding work together. But clearly it was too many captains and no one willing to soldier. Its still not over but todays generation doesnt seem much better by comparison. Theres a lot of respect amongst most of them, but no progress.
Harlem Nights is the best blk comedian collaboration movie of all time
How is Harlem Nights not considered a collabo of Black comics?!?! Is there a better one than that?!!?
Maybe the movie Life. That good amount of black comedian's.
@@tank100286 Damn. Of course!
Give The Black Pack their flowers 🌹💪😎
Great story. It was put together excellently. I hope we see more similar groups of black performers and their friends creating opportunities together.
Now we ALLL KNOW WHY THE BLACK PACK AINT GO NOWHERE IN HOLLYWOOD
Great video! Now if only blacks could come together in whatever industry they in & do the same.
It starts with you
For your information the film "Tower Heist" was supposed to star Eddie Murphy, Dave Chappelle, Tracy Morgan, Chris Tucker and Kevin Hart and the idea was pitched by Eddie but it never came through.
Kevin Hart is not funny...🙄😒
They all comics and producers writers
“The Black Pack” I never knew they went by that but that’s beautiful, especially considering the classics they brought us. They would’ve been even more of a serious problem had it lasted just a bit longer.
Robin Harris you will never be forgotten
Because they were missing a white guy in the group.
say it, wit me.. !
winkie! dinkie! DAWWWG!!!
Great vid.
But is it just me or anyone else feel like the tone and energy of this brother's voice didn't match how animated his body movement was going?
Dang they was the black avengers like fr lol
I love this piece !! I knew their connection, but I didn't know they were "Gang, Gang" like that !!
Wtf? No Symphony!......Gotdam!
It's not so much a "white comedians support each other and black comedians don't dynamic," because white comedians have rivalries too. However, if someone had made a concerted effort to lead "The Black Pack," they could have taken that energy to new heights: producing movies and television almost 20 years before Tyler Perry began doing that. Eddie Murphy had the talent and ability to lead the Black Pack, I just think he didn't have the desire to do it. He had his own thing and that was enough. That's kinda why he didn't wanna work with Spike Lee. Would "White Hollywood" have pushed back? Who cares, because audiences would have still showed up.
Plastic Cup boyz? Bahahaha!
Now it all make since.now I see what kwame was talking about..this is the GET ALONG GANG from the 80s and 90s.AND NOW WE GOT ...........DAMN MY THIRD EYE OPEN NOW👀
Great information, but dude almost chopped me through the screen 🤣