What are the LEAST amount of battles to beat Pokemon Red/Blue with NO ITEMS?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ธ.ค. 2019
  • Pokemon is all about battling, but what if we tried to do that as little as possible? How many battles can we eliminate and how do we get through the game?
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  • @Jrose11
    @Jrose11  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1206

    Wanna see a sequel to this video? Let's get this one to 10,000 likes and I'll release a follow up with a much improved strat! Happy holidays everyone!

    • @sirquack1815
      @sirquack1815 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I'd love to see the sequel.

    • @lunardancer6047
      @lunardancer6047 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      brb, making 7000 new accounts.

    • @nikolamarinovic5922
      @nikolamarinovic5922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I know this is a boring strategy but you can leave a pokemon at the daycare and level it up without training, i don't know if there is a daycare in red and blue but for any other game you can level up to level 100 so you dont care about not getting experience in battles.

    • @onetwothreefour3957
      @onetwothreefour3957 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Nikola Q this is absolutely possible, there is indeed a daycare. i wonder why op didnt think of this

    • @HELLRAISER02
      @HELLRAISER02 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      If you ever do this again, ban daycares, they're OP in this challenge

  • @carter3123
    @carter3123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2455

    not sure if anyone else mentioned this, but in additon to jrose considering the pokedoll at pokemon tower as a glitch, it is also an item to use in-battle, which goes against the rules.

    • @LimeymanZero
      @LimeymanZero 4 ปีที่แล้ว +226

      If you keep pressing right past the Squirtle when selecting a starter the game will let you past to select the Bulbasaur, that isn't developer intended so counts as a glitch

    • @Earthboundmike
      @Earthboundmike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@LimeymanZero what

    • @LimeymanZero
      @LimeymanZero 4 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      @@Earthboundmike It's a joke, just like Bulbasaur

    • @TaivaanValo
      @TaivaanValo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@Demonhornz I think the rule was no items in battle, so the repels are not a problem.

    • @yuggles2538
      @yuggles2538 4 ปีที่แล้ว +185

      @@LimeymanZero bulbasaur is super effective against 5 kanto gyms and resists 6 of them. Bulbasaur also evolves early so it's actually one of the better starters

  • @Whurlpuul
    @Whurlpuul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1190

    Social anxiety percent

    • @Jrose11
      @Jrose11  4 ปีที่แล้ว +223

      Honestly this was my idea of Low% but I feel like it's an insult to pretend this is a speedrun lol.

    • @Whurlpuul
      @Whurlpuul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@Jrose11 I kinda find a Red with such bad social anxiety funny, like he's so nervous to make eye contact with people so he doesn't get into battles often is funny to me. (especially compared to how he's portrayed in later pokemon games)

    • @Polarthief
      @Polarthief 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I actually hope that if 68 Battles % becomes a thing for speedrunners, it becomes SocialAnxiety%

    • @Polarthief
      @Polarthief 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Jrose11 Could always become one now that we know it's possible (thanks to you)!

    • @aerospherology2001
      @aerospherology2001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Interacting with as few NPCs as possible

  • @kingsgrave_
    @kingsgrave_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +398

    Jrose11: " I didn't pick Omanyte for the meme"
    *names him LORD HELIX*

    • @Jrose11
      @Jrose11  4 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      I mean Kabuto has lower Special so...

    • @DennisRash
      @DennisRash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Hail Lord Helix!

    • @thesuntitan
      @thesuntitan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      tbf he said "not JUST for the meme"

    • @caritahearts2405
      @caritahearts2405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Don’t disrespect your gods

    • @airraid1266
      @airraid1266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Filthy, filthy Omanyte, we all know Ratata is best fossil.

  • @djiboutinationalanthem5252
    @djiboutinationalanthem5252 4 ปีที่แล้ว +880

    Running away is still affecting the pokemon.
    It's hurting its feelings

  • @nathanielgrey4091
    @nathanielgrey4091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    "That makes Zubat really dangerous"
    There's a sentence that had never before been uttered.

  • @StormEagleCH
    @StormEagleCH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +547

    Agatha: I’ll show you how a real trainer battles!
    Also Agatha: *spams hypnosis and confuse ray*

    • @chefdunsparce4254
      @chefdunsparce4254 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Nintendo and their love of rng

    • @snbeast9545
      @snbeast9545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Agatha: I'll show you how a real *drunk* trainer battles!

    • @ShinyTillDawn
      @ShinyTillDawn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      at 3 AM

    • @benjamincooper358
      @benjamincooper358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Misty- I choose an all-out offensive with pokemon!
      *uses an X Defend*

    • @andrewrenshaw2741
      @andrewrenshaw2741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agatha fights with anime rules obviously. If a pokemon is asleep it is called unable to battle!

  • @avriil6446
    @avriil6446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +620

    final battle counter: 68
    *we've won, but at what cost?*

    • @derekjack8941
      @derekjack8941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Could justify a mewtwo battle...?

    • @storymaster21
      @storymaster21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      lets count the whole challenge as a single battle and make that count 69

    • @rysea9855
      @rysea9855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Obviously challenge failed

    • @ivanbackfromthecardshop8093
      @ivanbackfromthecardshop8093 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Count snortlax

    • @VenusMoonBunny
      @VenusMoonBunny 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Under 100 uh?

  • @alpolacci
    @alpolacci 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    *"Local hippie overthrows government with peace&love, a plant and two literal fossils"*

  • @FrozunLightning
    @FrozunLightning 4 ปีที่แล้ว +668

    Great video. Just in case someone else hasn't already said it, I believe Agatha actually has "bad" AI. It's a fun twist since this can make her more of a pain to deal with due her moves being selected randomly. You can't take advantage of the dumb "good" AI like with the other trainers.

    • @shadowtitanx3962
      @shadowtitanx3962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Yeah... That's the biggest exemption from most trainers with "good" AI, like Lorelei, Lance, and Blue.
      Basically, Gen 1 is a complete mess of a game.

    • @awesomelink2347
      @awesomelink2347 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Correct. Out of all the Elite Four members, only Lorelei and Lance have the "good" AI.

    • @Frog-ux5qu
      @Frog-ux5qu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      As if Bruno would benefit from "good Ai"

    • @2bluedragons492
      @2bluedragons492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think it's meant to show how she's a bit senile, but has the opposite effect.

    • @yugimumoto1
      @yugimumoto1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@2bluedragons492 yeah it makes her the extremely unpredictable creepy old lady instead.

  • @quocvietophu1627
    @quocvietophu1627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Gen 1 Venusaur be like a salad

  • @demil42
    @demil42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Watching this almost a year later, it feels weird. Jrose says he can't set up against a frozen golbat while having withdraw to set up 6 badge boost glitch, and him surprised that Mimic is good…

    • @burntalive
      @burntalive 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Current JRose would do so much better on this run! The run has become so optimized.

    • @raineob4996
      @raineob4996 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To be fair, the Badge Boost Glitch was obscure and extremely poorly understood until around 2020 (even when the Squirtle solo happened), so he likely didn’t know about it.
      Mimic is also not learned by level-up by anything other than Sudowoodo before Gen 3, and Gen 1 trainers don’t use TMs, so there’s no reason it would ever be encountered in a run, not to mention you have to buy an item you have no real reason to own and take it to another city to even get the TM.

  • @tpsplatinum3562
    @tpsplatinum3562 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Bulbasaur;
    1) Super effective against Brock’s Pokémon.
    2) Super effective against Misty’s Pokémon
    3) Resists Lt. Surges electric moves.
    4) Neutral matchup against Erica.
    5) Cannot be poisoned by Koga
    6) Good matchup against Giovanni.
    7) Razor Leaf having STAB and always criting because high crit chance means it crits in gen 1, effectively make it base 165.
    Bulbasaur might not be a fire breathing lizard or an adorable turtle, but it is the easy mode when it comes to Red and Blue. I WILL DEFEND THIS TO THE DAY I DIE!!!

    • @PrisonMike-qi8ch
      @PrisonMike-qi8ch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is 110% FACTUALLY TRUE! It is QUITE OFTEN considered AND implied among the long-time fans of Pokemon that if you pick Bulbasaur, it is picking EASY MODE. If you pick Squirtle, it is picking NORMAL MODE, and if you pick Charmander, it is picking HARD MODE. HECK, even in Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen it states accordingly if you click on Bulbasaur, it says quote on quote; "Ahh, so you picked BULBASAUR. It is very easy to raise.", implying that you're picking the EASY MODE. If you click on Squirtle, it says; "Ahh, so you picked SQUIRTLE. It is one worth raising", implying that you're picking the NORMAL MODE. And if you click on Charmander, it says; "Ahh, so you pick CHARMANDER. You should raise it patiently.", implying that you're picking the HARD MODE.
      I don't know if you already know this or not, but I'm just telling you this to bring up a bit of a fun fact about the original Red and Blue games AND about their Remakes FireRed and LeafGreen, JUST in case if you didn't know about that particularly. Have a GREAT day wherever you are!😉👍🏽

  • @Zetalight16
    @Zetalight16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +581

    Since you picked trainers with the fewest pokemon when given a choice, this run should actually qualify for "fewest KOs". If you took the trainers with more pokemon, you might have gotten slightly more experience to work with. It also seems to me that fewest KOs implies least total EXP gained.

    • @justin02905
      @justin02905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      The implication is false, unfortunately. 5 magikarps @ 5 exp < 1 gyrados @ 30 exp. But using this run as a base it should be easy to find the glitchless minimum exp run

    • @steveh1474
      @steveh1474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      he never had to make that decision of 5 low xp Pokemon or 1 high xp Pokemon.
      generally, the trainers that had high xp Pokemon also had more Pokemon in general, and by taking the fewer number of KOs, he also took less xp.

    • @justin02905
      @justin02905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@steveh1474 yeah he did. After the nugget bridge and at the grass gym. Usually the game gives a trainer 1-2 strong Pokémon (beauties, cue balls, etc) or 3-5 weak pokemon (bug catchers, breeders, etc). This is for balance. Although I do think in the end fighting the trainers with fewer pokemon will give less exp overall.

    • @rarepepe1572
      @rarepepe1572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@justin02905 so what he implied was correct in the end, just not a foregone conclusion

    • @justin02905
      @justin02905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@rarepepe1572 yes. A real in-game example is in the Erika gym.
      Trainer 1: beauty
      Lvl 26 exegcute - 546 exp
      Trainer 2: cooltrainer
      Lvl 24 gloom - 678 exp
      Lvl 24 - weepinbell
      Lvl 24 - ivysaur
      I didn't calc the rest, but the gloom alone is worth more than the trainer with less pokemon in this case.

  • @MahDryBread
    @MahDryBread 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1006

    A solid Christmas Present!

    • @Sminlek
      @Sminlek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hi Bread

    • @Jrose11
      @Jrose11  4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      Thanks man, love the videos you've been putting out, really amazing runs lately!!

    • @MahDryBread
      @MahDryBread 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@Jrose11 Thanks, I appreciate that! I'm always open to hang out and talk TH-cam if you ever want to! I've been doing a video a day for 8 years now so I've got no shortage of stuff to talk about

    • @kvetchenfinks7044
      @kvetchenfinks7044 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Tasty bread for our jrose sandwich

    • @HoratioMcAlge
      @HoratioMcAlge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! I wish your vids were better. :(

  • @PhoeniksStorm
    @PhoeniksStorm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    Avoiding every battle i could was literally how i played pokemon as a kid. Which made it so i could never beat the elite 4.

    • @KreepyKat911
      @KreepyKat911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I was the same way! I was like, afraid of encountering trainers lmao

    • @_UnknownStory
      @_UnknownStory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Mine was "grind the hell outta Charizard because it's the coolest and forget the other Pokemon."
      It took me a few hours but Charizard and Friends (re: Meat Shields) eventually got through the whole thing.

    • @SummonerArthur
      @SummonerArthur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@_UnknownStory I did the same with my sceptile back then.

    • @seiler3485
      @seiler3485 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Let's be real, Kanto Elite Four kicked all our asses at some point

    • @eeveestars3668
      @eeveestars3668 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      me too but yet i like wild pokemon
      pokemon x but you cant slov the furfuw puzzle
      me: yay i did the puzzle time to go to the 2 gym
      The gym leder: i will beat you with my rock pokemon
      me: sends out leval 55 delfox
      The gym leder: sends out his leval 23 pokemon
      gym leder: 😱
      literly 2 minits later
      gym leter: you win
      me: i thout you were ment to be hard
      me: well time to find a eevee
      I leve the gym
      gym leder: that was strat up not far
      AND THATS HOW BAD MY SPELLING IS

  • @cptKamina
    @cptKamina 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    "So we are really nearing the homestretch here" He says 39 minutes into am 80 minute video :D

  • @nsm6467
    @nsm6467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +751

    give this man a noble peace price for FINALLY finding a use for bide

    • @thebestworst8002
      @thebestworst8002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      nsm 64 this is like Pikasprey finding a use for flash

    • @LEO_M1
      @LEO_M1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      nsm 64
      Nobel*

    • @DingoTheDemon
      @DingoTheDemon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I actually like bide in-game sometimes; I usually don't use things that can learn bide, but if I'm doing a nuzlocke, sometimes it really comes in handy!

    • @Rediblackdragon
      @Rediblackdragon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@DingoTheDemon: nuzlocke time, let's use the attack that just has me getting hurt on purpose

    • @DingoTheDemon
      @DingoTheDemon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Rediblackdragon if I have a mostly defensive Pokemon at low levels then yes :D

  • @edfreak9001
    @edfreak9001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    "You can't do less than one with a single Not Very Effective hit"
    not true! It's just that if you somehow get in a position where that happens the game gets confused and says that you missed.
    At this point i'm surprised the Gen 1 cartidges don't somehow catch on fire with how barely held together they are

    • @clqliveson
      @clqliveson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thats a 1/256 miss.... not a "0"

    • @edfreak9001
      @edfreak9001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@clqliveson i can't remember who it was, but someone did a challenge run where they were so underleveled for Brock that their Not Very Effective move "missed" like 10 times in a row. Unless there's just some nutty RNG happening there's no way it was legitimately missing.
      It might've been Gamechamp but not sure.

    • @eepy7764
      @eepy7764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@edfreak9001 It happened in one of Mah-Dry-Bread's challenges, apparently what was happening was that he was dealing damage so far below 1 that the game rounds it down to 0 because it's the closest integer when calculating how much HP to deduct. Because the game thinks missing an attack is the only way to deal 0 damage, it displays the "Attack Missed" text.

    • @caritahearts2405
      @caritahearts2405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Honestly I want a gen 8 game with gen 1’s shitty coding, that sounds so fun. Smogon get on that.

    • @justanothercommenterwithan9089
      @justanothercommenterwithan9089 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@caritahearts2405 dear god what kind of hell will that create

  • @CyberBlastoise
    @CyberBlastoise 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    It's so weird hearing Jrose mentioning using Mimic as tho that's a novel concept considering how much he would use it in later runs.

  • @junkawahara968
    @junkawahara968 4 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    What a run. I actually forgot Mimic was a move, and the Bide strategy was brilliant. I would love to see the improved run, and a merry Christmas to you.

  • @a_cup_of_joe540
    @a_cup_of_joe540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Yes, I would like to suffer as much as humanly possible please? Oh, this challenge? This will do quite nicely

    • @_UnknownStory
      @_UnknownStory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nobody tell this guy about Nuzlocke. I don't wanna break his heart

    • @runevarkevisser7289
      @runevarkevisser7289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There's a lad who beat pokémon Red without taking a single hit. Perhaps that will bring you the desired amount of suffering.

    • @keane0warren188
      @keane0warren188 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      its funny because its true

    • @wilFluffball
      @wilFluffball 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ok wanna suffer more? do the run with all your pokemon paralyzed.

  • @Merione
    @Merione 4 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    When it comes to starters, do not underestimate the power of the Grass side!

    • @shironasama0445
      @shironasama0445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I always choose grass anyway

    • @ABurntMuffin
      @ABurntMuffin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shironasama0445 :fire:

    • @RooftopRose079
      @RooftopRose079 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I almost always pick the grass type, they're so underrated, everyone's always going for the fire type. I mean, the first two gyms are rock and water, both weak to grass why aren't people choosing Bulbasaur?

    • @devincetee5335
      @devincetee5335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RooftopRose079 i always choose water

    • @windhelmguard5295
      @windhelmguard5295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@RooftopRose079 there is a simple reason to choose charmender in gen-1
      that being type coverage.
      you see while it is true that squirtlle and bulbasaur are better against earlier gyms, brocks rock types have shitty special stats and don't actually know any rock our ground moves so ember can do the job and then you can catch grass types before misty and you can get a water type before mount moon by buying the magicarp, you can find good replacements for both bulbasaur and squirtle very early on.
      good fire types however don't become available until cinnabar island.

  • @gamerdude491
    @gamerdude491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +417

    Early game strategy that was completely overlooked:
    Buy the Magikarp. Using it is optional, but now you have a 2nd Pokémon you didn't need to battle for. Upon beating Misty, pop either of them into the Daycare, then abuse the bike and any other means of saving real-life time to accelerate their EXP gains without ever battling anyone. Use the cash from selling items you can't use in battle to pay the daycare to get your now over-levelled Pokémon back out. This strategy will get you a beefier Ivysaur to ease the difficult SS Anne rival battle and it will get you a Gyarados using the Magikarp. Then you steamroll the rest of the game.

    • @oilvre_
      @oilvre_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      gamerdude491 yeah, there’s no daycare in gen one

    • @picagamer_6098
      @picagamer_6098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +108

      @@oilvre_ there is
      Gamechamp3000 used it in his no damage gen 1 playthrough

    • @Akrna47
      @Akrna47 4 ปีที่แล้ว +142

      @@oilvre_ that's where you are wrong, buddy. It's right after misty

    • @franklinbolton8730
      @franklinbolton8730 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The daycare was my first thought as well.

    • @premejon8300
      @premejon8300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      TheTweeJaguar lmao found the dude born in 2012 😂

  • @BigAndy_31
    @BigAndy_31 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    You forgot to mention using the poke doll in the tower is considered an item in battle which is against the rules anyway. So the other reasons you brought up don't even matter. You went and ruffled some feathers for nothing lol. Great video.

  • @Brain-washed2
    @Brain-washed2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I'm just glad somebody else knows the truth of the marowak ghost glitch.
    awesome work man, i didn't think anything would top no damage... But this actually seems way harder

  • @LadyBrightcynder
    @LadyBrightcynder 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    "... and you can see how deadly Night Shade is."
    I see what you did there

  • @zachrichardson3947
    @zachrichardson3947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Little did he know, by using mimic on agility in the lance battle, he activate the badge boost glitch.

    • @Jrose11
      @Jrose11  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ah, the good old days of playing the game the way it was meant to. Good times...

  • @niconexus5914
    @niconexus5914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    TH-camrs who make a Pokemon challenge video: 15 mins
    Jrose: Unedited 1 hour explanations
    Perfect present man.

    • @Jrose11
      @Jrose11  4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Dude, you have no idea how much I edit lol, I get what you're saying but it takes forever to make these. I just really like being thorough

    • @javrami4883
      @javrami4883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jrose11 we are all thankful

    • @niconexus5914
      @niconexus5914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jrose11 Wow lol. We still love your content man!

  • @Felixkeeg
    @Felixkeeg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    "Gen I giveth and Gen I taketh away" lmao

  • @xdeuiiigaming1223
    @xdeuiiigaming1223 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Jrose11: "...and i'm not gonna make a 1hr long video"
    Also Jrose11:

  • @JC-hi8fk
    @JC-hi8fk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    “Mr. Mime is a joke”
    This opinion would be short lived

    • @Colonel_RamRod
      @Colonel_RamRod 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If used correctly Mr Mime can be an absolute nightmare to deal with lol

  • @loganisanerd5566
    @loganisanerd5566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    My boy Bulbasaur pulling some weight, lol

  • @timber6856
    @timber6856 4 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    Leaving a comment for TH-cam algorithm

    • @bargiona
      @bargiona 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hey Algorithm!

    • @tutituti4344
      @tutituti4344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Our guiding light

    • @MrJemoeder1990
      @MrJemoeder1990 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yyyy
      8

    • @Neith93
      @Neith93 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      algo

    • @allyw7405
      @allyw7405 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mathematics strikes again

  • @michaelcritter7933
    @michaelcritter7933 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love going back through these. Just got to the final four Agetha and 3 years ago when "mimic" was a brand new Strat. Since then, mimic seems to be a fairly standard toolbox option for otherwise limited runs. Love it

  • @fifkun_
    @fifkun_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It’s so weird to see mimicking Agility without talking about the badge boost glitch. I love your videos, man!

  • @jaeusa160
    @jaeusa160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    @31:15 I'm with you on that, I consider skipping what is intended to be a mandatory battle which is intended to send you to another location for what is intended to be a mandatory item after clearing other mandatory battles... yeah I consider that a glitch. It's a very easy to activate glitch, but so are a lot of glitches in the game, just by doing other mundane or normal actions. I would argue the PokeDoll is NOT fulfilling its intended function of skipping 1 battle, because it's being used to skip a game section full of battles it doesn't work on by escaping "one" battle. To me, it's no different than saving past the kid by Brock's gym.
    You're saving the game, which is an intended function. In your current location, which is where saves are intended to keep you. And you're loading the game which loads you into that location, which is what loading saves is intended to do. It just happens to break the entire game when you do so.

    • @Xeronoia
      @Xeronoia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed, and well said. Speedrunners are completely insane though, and justify all kinds of stupidity in "Glitchless" categories.

    • @joshstephens413
      @joshstephens413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Xeronoia Says the insane people creating all kinds of justifications for why they think speedrunners justify glitches.

    • @Xeronoia
      @Xeronoia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshstephens413 There's no justifications or assumptions at work here, bucko, these are the actual arguments used by actual speedrunners. "Oh the item itself is working as intended so skipping a roadblock and entire sections of the game with it it isnt a glitch, even though every other way of attempting to skip that roadbloack doesn't work!" is something literally only a brainlet or a speedrunner using bias to justify a shortcut would believe.

    • @wombat4191
      @wombat4191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Xeronoia Just because a game design lets you use a programming oversight to skip parts of a game doesn't mean it is necessarily a glitch. I'm not arguing whether the poke doll skip is a glitch or not, but it skipping parts of the game doesn't make it one. Go loo up the definition of a glitch.

    • @Xeronoia
      @Xeronoia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wombat4191 So I take it you're a brainlet or a speedrunner then.

  • @rushilsaini6356
    @rushilsaini6356 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    I took the helix fossil *not for the meme*
    Yeah sure

    • @bossboy191919
      @bossboy191919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Did he refer to MahDryBread?

    • @rushilsaini6356
      @rushilsaini6356 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bossboy191919 he did

    • @LEO_M1
      @LEO_M1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I'm pretty sure that by "meme" he was referring to Lord Helix, not MDB.

    • @TheUltimateRare
      @TheUltimateRare 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      only reason he said it's not for the meme is because it was for the meme, you wouldn't bring up a meme if you were avoiding it.

  • @idrissb9742
    @idrissb9742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Looking back - knowing about the badge boost glitch - that freeze on the Golbat in the Agatha battle wouldve been perfect for setting up withdraw, boosting your speed to hopefully outspeed the final gengar haha

  • @kingdavey90
    @kingdavey90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Wow, I had no idea that you would skip learning new moves if you get multiple levels from one big exp chunk

  • @coleknight5335
    @coleknight5335 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    How can someone not love these videos they are so interesting and Jrose has so much integrity to even bypass making things easier. Love these videos one of my favorite channels

    • @PANZERFAUST90
      @PANZERFAUST90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What the run-on sentence was that???

    • @Begeru
      @Begeru ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually he made it easier by not using the pokedoll slip

  • @FantasyJota
    @FantasyJota 4 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    This is me playing as a 10 year old

    • @KreepyKat911
      @KreepyKat911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      [A spinner catches me and I start crying]

    • @wibblemu9
      @wibblemu9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I'm the complete opposite, I was the kid who went out of his way to find every trainer on every route lol

    • @mclarge90
      @mclarge90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@wibblemu9 same, i always thought that was the point in playing it haha

    • @wibblemu9
      @wibblemu9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@mclarge90 haha ikr I have to enter every building and talk to ever NPC, make sure I get everything

  • @bdhuffman42
    @bdhuffman42 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Please do this challenge for every generation! It was such a fun run to watch!

  • @vbph2011
    @vbph2011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Celebrating you GETTING AN EDITOR that's super awesome by watching and commenting and each of your minimum battles/tier list series. Nothing big, just a few sentences to make sure it helps the algorithm. And the videos are grea.

  • @DaftRay
    @DaftRay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Sooo, guess who found out that you can skip the fights in Blaine's Gym by using those quiz machines today. Me... I always just assumed they were for aesthetic lol

    • @shytendeakatamanoir9740
      @shytendeakatamanoir9740 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I just always get them wrong on purpose.

    • @SummonerArthur
      @SummonerArthur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@shytendeakatamanoir9740 me too.
      I kinda feel bad skipping those battles

    • @m.m.2341
      @m.m.2341 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When I played Let's Go I was like "did they add a quiz show here"? Because I could not remember the quiz AT ALL from my childhood days, so I GUESS I always just fought.

    • @Khetamine
      @Khetamine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You sack of potatoes 😂

    • @wizardsummoner9124
      @wizardsummoner9124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shytendeakatamanoir9740 You can always talk to the guy anyway to battle him.

  • @JohnDoe-uq2qd
    @JohnDoe-uq2qd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey man, just wanted to say that I love your videos! I love watching these really unique runs, and it's clear you have a lot of passion for the game that meant so much to both of us growing up. Keep up the good work

  • @MFMegaZeroX7
    @MFMegaZeroX7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I would love to see the consistent strats. Also, this may be my favorite challenge run. It was really fun and clever (using Mimic, WOW!)
    I would certainly also love to see more challenge runs in the future use the "least amount of battles/no optional battles" thing. I still can't believe Red/Blue was beaten with NO optional battles.

  • @dejct
    @dejct ปีที่แล้ว

    Watched it all the way through, enjoyed it thoroughly. You put so much effort into these and it shows. A pleasure to watch as always, jrose

  • @aminotarobot7486
    @aminotarobot7486 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    just blew my mind with the bide strat, I swear of all these crazy pokemon runs you have the best
    THE MIMIC STRAT!!! THIS ABSOLUTE MAD LAD

  • @justnobody5527
    @justnobody5527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    One thing that might have made this a bit less of a challenge. A little ol house called the "Day care house" yes you couldnt use it untill you got the fossil since you cant put in HM pokemon. Or the Eevee before evolving. Also wheres the fun walking back and forth for litteral days so good vid did like or something

    • @JimothiesMemeShack
      @JimothiesMemeShack 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There’s no day care in gen1

    • @YushiruOokashiSLW
      @YushiruOokashiSLW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@JimothiesMemeShack there is, it's near Cerulean

    • @Fig_Bender
      @Fig_Bender 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@JimothiesMemeShack its south of cerulean, you cant breed pokemom but you can level them

    • @TheUltimateRare
      @TheUltimateRare 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      or if the rules allow it, you can also use any% cheats to skip ALL trainers ;P but that would ruin the fun, so Itemless/trade less/ cheatless is the most fun.

    • @mrsplays9817
      @mrsplays9817 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think that the HM thing was from later games, I don't see why you couldn't put in the eevee, and you can get a magikarp before Mount Moon without a battle.

  • @NickAChino
    @NickAChino 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Definitely want to see a video with an updated strat! Love your content and enjoy seeing you critically think through these runs. Keep it up!

    • @Jrose11
      @Jrose11  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Editting it right now, should be out in a couple days.

  • @michaelthompson8334
    @michaelthompson8334 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Going back and watching this after the solo runs and all the things you've learned I wanna see how much better this could be now that you know a ton more about these games

  • @Arelachen
    @Arelachen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I subbed as soon as you said that Vaporeon is one of your favorites. I love Vaporeon so much, I had him on my birthay cake :D

  • @YukeWeiss
    @YukeWeiss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love how you find creative strategies with terrible moves. Really solid content. I feel like maybe the running commentary of every major battle could be a bit streamlined in your videos, but I really enjoy your challenge runs :3

  • @pokestep
    @pokestep 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jrose, thank you for putting so much time into your videos, and also for answering questions I never would have even asked

  • @ryanc5572
    @ryanc5572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's so cool that he did this challenge. I recommended it a while ago. Thank you mate. Really enjoyed it. The bide trick was fantastic.

  • @xbenj403
    @xbenj403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    68 battles
    "We were on the verge of greatness, we were this close."
    But anyway, great video, alone because of the massive time effort on your side. Really would like to see the updated strats. But still, great great video, can't stress this enough. And, enjoy the rest of your day!

  • @DJTileTurnip
    @DJTileTurnip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Merry Christmas Jrose, Merry Christmas
    Have a good one

  • @poisonbarb75
    @poisonbarb75 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really liked this video. I really like Pokemon challenges, but after the fourth "can I beat this game with only said Pokemon?" video, which are just enormous grindfests, this video was such a relief and a pleasure to watch.
    Beautiful showcasing your deep knowledge of the game, the innovative strategies and the fact you couldn't grind, you had to work with what you had. Congratulations on a work well done!

  • @josephhanicak7922
    @josephhanicak7922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please, keep making these. These long challenges are awesome and I love watching them .

  • @ifesbobthekillerpolarbear2013
    @ifesbobthekillerpolarbear2013 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'd like to see the battle number for an average casual playthrough compared to grind-intense runs and this because I think that would be really interesting

  • @Starsoulklr
    @Starsoulklr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Actually I thought of why you can't use the Poke Doll to escape Mother Marowak. You forbid the use of items in battle for your run so if you used the Poke Doll you break your own challenge rule.

    • @fooff1
      @fooff1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He has been using in battle items from the start. WTF are you smoking and why aren't you sharing?

  • @Regifeathers
    @Regifeathers 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spectacular, thorough and enjoyable video as usual. I’d love to see more!!

  • @m.m.2341
    @m.m.2341 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an incredibly cool run. I was just glued to my screen for the full 80 minutes :D
    And great choice of music, too, especially Marnie 2 for the final battle!

  • @bfrd1989
    @bfrd1989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    glad you made the video, was very entertaining, you thought about doing more videos like this, challenge runs seem to be the in thing atm... ps that bide strat... im crying

  • @GlichCentral
    @GlichCentral 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’d be happy to see the improved strats.

  • @shupasopni
    @shupasopni 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was awesome! One of if not the most interesting of challenge runs I've seen. Would most def love to see a redo video.

  • @imfamoushero
    @imfamoushero 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk how you kept me entertained for nearly 1 hour and 20 mins but your content always, always lives up to jrose expectations

  • @auggy69
    @auggy69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another long jrose video... an amazing christmas gift

  • @SupernerdScrawl
    @SupernerdScrawl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Finally somebody calls out the glitch exploit thing. I've always had a problem with that.

  • @brandongordon4019
    @brandongordon4019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, great job on this video. Must have been really challenging. I'd be interested in seeing a really refined strategy. And I thought you're take on the pokedoll was interesting. I didn't know how I felt about it until you explained your thoughts, and I gotta say that won me over.

  • @calebsimons4288
    @calebsimons4288 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This man just keeps invigorating my interest in Pokémon and makes me appreciate the games more than I did as a kid.

  • @javrami4883
    @javrami4883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    God I love this channel so much

  • @TheAres1999
    @TheAres1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:16:41 switching to a
    Pokémon to tank a hit can be a really useful technique. If you know you need to switch, having an intermediate Pokémon go out first will keep the next one safe. It can also be used to protect a main Pokémon from moves like Solar Beam.

  • @alexandersanchez9138
    @alexandersanchez9138 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    All your runs are super interesting and creative. I watch all your videos; keep up the great work!

  • @bandityogo
    @bandityogo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Jrose! Always a gift seeing you upload!! Keep up the great work

  • @surtrgaming1730
    @surtrgaming1730 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Here: Level 25 Ivysaur vs Level 16-19 Pokémon: "I'm not overleveled"
    On the 2nd run: Level 20 Ivysaur vs Level 15-17 Pokémon: "I'm overleveled"

  • @IDoTheMost
    @IDoTheMost 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    My guess would be about 80, considering the gym leaders and trainers, team rocket, rival battles, necessary npcs, and elite 4. On second thought its probably closer to like 95ish lol

    • @plebisMaximus
      @plebisMaximus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      First guess wasn't too far off.

    • @IDoTheMost
      @IDoTheMost 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I didn't realize the last few gyms didn't require you to fight many of the trainers. Between that, and the rocket hideout lol it could've made 80

  • @Peelster1
    @Peelster1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with almost everything you said about the Poke Doll skip. With the exception of it being a glitch. It is not as the developers intended, but the game mechanic of the Poke Doll does work as intended, with an oversight. As you said, the oversight was that the devs did not mean for the Poke Doll to be able to skip over the Ghost. As such, by definition, with the game mechanic working as intended but with an oversight, it is an exploit. That being said, you could have mentioned wanting to do this run as no glitches and no exploits. In addition, you would have had to do Rocket Hideout anyway, as the Poke Doll's use would have broken your "no items in battle" rule.
    When you started in on the Poke Doll, I was hoping that you would do Rocket Hideout. I was not disappointed. I have a lot of respect for you for going into that explanation of what you think about the Poke Doll, especially for playing the game as intended, no exceptions, on such a challenging run and for holding yourself to such a high standard.
    I believe there is a difference between a glitchless run and a run where the game is played entirely as intended. A completely as intended run would be no glitches, no exploits, and patched as much as possible to remove bugs. However, when patches remove bugs, it changes the original game, which is why some re-releases of games, including gen 1 of Pokemon, have all the glitches, exploits and bugs included. As these issues that a game has also gives it a lot of it's charm.

  • @Awtysm000
    @Awtysm000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have a great holiday season! I am so happy every time I see you in my sub feed. Keep up the great work!

  • @phlippinout
    @phlippinout 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This comment serves only to help with your stats. Merry Christmas.

  • @Desty38
    @Desty38 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    57:47 You can be unfrozen if a fire move hits you or if you use items in battle, hence why it doesn't kill you.

    • @Khetamine
      @Khetamine 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That name tho

  • @teeopiskelija6544
    @teeopiskelija6544 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dunno how I skipped this one, but I'm glad, since now I have a long episode to watch! :) Thanks for the content btw!

  • @Ashfold_Eberesche
    @Ashfold_Eberesche 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    omg, when you said "This strategy, I'm surprised it worked" I KNEW it was gonna be Bide! I actually thought of it just while you were talking about Kadabra needing to use Teleport. This is one of the few times when I've come up with the same solution that you used :D To be fair, in Gen 1 there's only so many options so it's much easier, plus Gen 1 is the generation I know by far the most about.

  • @cl0ckw0rker
    @cl0ckw0rker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting video. I'm surprised u didn't mention the toxic + leech seed combo. I understand it's a glitch (or exploit) but it's why I always pick bulbasaur in red and blue.

  • @Bronzor_
    @Bronzor_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:07:05 Gotta admit, that is rare, but while playing my Bronzor only run I got 17 Hypnosis misses in a row (with no changes to accuracy or evasiveness)... Since that moment I'm just used to see Hypnosis miss

  • @mattr2431
    @mattr2431 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wooooo! Merry Christmas everyone! I’m super excited to have a Jrose video for Christmas! I really hope that you keep making content. I’m sorry that the trashy algorithm screws over your videos but you seriously make the best Pokémon content on TH-cam. I hope you have a fantastic holiday!

  • @DavidAndrew299
    @DavidAndrew299 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video like always, would absolutely love to see the improved strategy!

  • @nooberus9241
    @nooberus9241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dude Leech Seed is OP and my favorite attack in the game!

    • @RaphielShiraha64
      @RaphielShiraha64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yup mix leech seed with toxic and that is pain

  • @irrisorie7
    @irrisorie7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i'd love to see your refined strategy. this was a really interesting video!
    as for the daycare thing, i think it obviously goes against the spirit of the challenge. anyone can drop a gift pokemon in the daycare and get it to level 100 to cheese their way through the game. there's no point in doing a challenge like this if that's the way you want to do it. might as well just play the game normally by that point.

  • @TheJadeknight7
    @TheJadeknight7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, that battle against Agatha was really intense. It's really cool to see obscure moves being used to save the day. This was a great challenge.

  • @zachrd67
    @zachrd67 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these long videos. I know so much went into it so thanks for a great video

  • @bubblewrap8823
    @bubblewrap8823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ah, yes, the “My Childhood” run.

    • @lowkey1202
      @lowkey1202 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol until we found the missing number glitch

  • @miketacos9034
    @miketacos9034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bide and Mimic finally have their moment in the sun!

  • @ScottsThoughtsPokemon
    @ScottsThoughtsPokemon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Doing my research for an upcoming challenge I'm doing! You're stuff is great and inspiring. Keep it up!

    • @riverking8258
      @riverking8258 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love your stuff keep it up

    • @fildgebucket
      @fildgebucket ปีที่แล้ว

      If jrose hasn't/isn't going to, you should 1000% try this in yellow Scott!
      Having watched your recent content, this would be fun to see! You'd have to tweek the starter, maybe an Eevee since it's technically a starter that's given by Oak (just not to the player) in yellow!
      Or any (reasonable) pokemon that would make it possible to actually clear Brock and move on to the rest of the game.
      The rest of the game is a challenge enough on it's own and would be wildly different than red/blue even when only considering the main story battles!

  • @undeddjester
    @undeddjester 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the first video of yours I saw @Jrose11...
    Its hilarious now looking back after watching so many of your videos and seeing your discovery of mimic... but more than that getting to 1:08:00 with the frozen Golbat and upon hearing "Can I set up?", and immediately thinking "withdraw for the badge boost glitch", then hearing "No, not really...".
    Legit got more impressed with this run, knowing you did it without the power you would become famous for 🤣🤣🤣

  • @arecus54
    @arecus54 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm surprised he didn't go with Zapdos, was expecting that when he mentioned the surfing thing
    Nevermind, just realised it's another battle and using item in battle

  • @AliKandirr
    @AliKandirr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Disappointed that it was one less than perfect number
    Seriously, these challenge videos are so addictive and fun to watch. Thank you for suffering through them

  • @no1wasgeorgiebest
    @no1wasgeorgiebest 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this and all of your videos. Keep up the good work.

  • @jorisvandijk5489
    @jorisvandijk5489 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, as always! A nice treat for the holiday's