I believe 80135 is the only standard 4t that has ever been painted in BR green, but not while in its BR days. The locomotive is now on the NYMR though when painted in green and the current livery I'm not sure!
Honestly, this channel is a life-saver. Your reviews have probably saved me hundreds or even thousands of pounds on poor locos that I was going to get until I saw your review. Whenever I see a loco I am interested in, my first thought is "Let's see what Sam says about it". My favourite example is when I could either get a Bachmann E4 or a Hornby 2P for the same price and your review saved me £100 by avoiding the 2P!
I personally have a Bachmann standard 4, and I would personally describe it as lovely! For me, she seems to run like a charm (as long as you keep the valve gear well lubricated), is quite powerful and yet as you said, she looks gorgeous! This is just me, but I love the Bachmann standard 4 tank, can’t say that for most Bachmann locos
I would have to agree with you Sam about the BR Green paint with the lining. Its one that looks very nice and looks like class. I think the reason why I like BR Green is due to the fact that I keep the A4 Dwight D. Eisenhower clean at the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay, WI. Also, Congrats on making it over 85K for your subscribers!
I hope you're proud of yourself as you're drawing me into British trains for the first time since I was a little boy! I'm from the US so there's no shop I can just walk into for UK stuff. Do you have any videos giving advice for people starting out? Really dig how calm you and your videos are, that's a rarity.
Thanks so much Nicholas, that's so great to hear! Yeah I have a video on getting started in the hobby - it's a bit old, but there are some tips in there! Good luck! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
That’s a really nice engine, I need more tank engines for my model railway and that is the perfect one for me it looks beautiful, keep up the good work and stay safe during these hard times!
I think 80135 is in preservation at North Yorks Moor Railways. At Bo'ness we are coming to end of the heavy overhaul of 80105. I notice that there are not cylinder pressure relief valves, that is because we have just fitted ours after the valves were set. Also the motion will be a great deal lighter. A good looking model.
Extremely fair as ever Sam. I bought one of these at Christmas from TMC and it had to be exchanged on quality grounds with wonky buffers. Mine even struggles on THIRD radius curves! But like you, I still love it. Cheers!
Ahh sorry to hear that Andrew - I don't know what it is with Bachmann locos struggling like that - I've had quite a few recently that do! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
1:59 is so relatable - searched for the prices of the latest class 101 the other day and was blown away at the prices of the 4-car EMUs - over £400! Makes the £240 for the 101 look almost reasonable...
I remember buying a Bachmann 4CEP EMU when it first came out (about 10 years ago?). I seem to remember I paid £100 to £120. Now they’re £400 plus! Won’t be buying any more!
Yeah I know - it's a tragedy isn't it? I just know I won't be able to buy them at that price... maybe that's what Bachmann want, lol! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
BR Green on the Standard 4MT and 4MT Tanks looks stunning. Just waiting for a Std. 4MT in BR Green to come up on Hattons for a reasonable price! BR Black does look good, although I think the detail stands out better in BR Green.
BR actually did 3 different standard 4s. The 75xxx 4-6-0, the 76xxx 2-6-0, and the 80xxx 2-6-4T. I got a hornby dublo 4mt tank many years ago, had issues with it so swapped it for a bachmann one with a friend (he's happy with the dublo one). 80097, it ran like yours on DC, but when I fitted it for DCC, the slowing on corners stopped, and it's a great runner now. Since then, I've picked up another, 80079, which was really cheap as it has damaged paintwork and a missing rod on the valve gear, but again runs well. And double heading, they can haul quite long trains. Only 80135 ever carried BR green, because its owner specified it when he bought it for preservation. It currently runs on the NYMR including along national rail metals to whitby so needs the warning flashes to be mainline compliant, although I think it's under restoration atm (it was in bits when i visited the grosmont depot in august 2014).
Hi Sam. I have one of these. It is number 80104 as preserved on the Swanage Railway. A friend of mine has 80135. The only problem I have with them is that they tend to slow down on curves (2nd radius) and they derail very easily when negotiating points in reverse but as I am quite happy to watch them just trundle around the layout it is not a big deal to me. All the best, Darren.
If I remember correctly these engines never ran in green under BR and the model is for the engine that runs on the North Yorkshire Moors Railway however green may have been used if the class ran in the Weston region. I do really like the green though and bought this exact model some time ago, I plan to possibly remove the modern overhead signs so I can run it in a 50s setting. Excellent video as always Sam!
If I recall correctly, these were one of Bachmanns very first 'Blue Ribband' models, which were the first models to be designed after the split chassis was done away with. I wouldn't be surprised if these are closer to 20 years old. They are a model of their time, but at that time they were probably the best steam model available, which shows with how well they stand up to modern models. I had one of the very first release, and remember there was a recall issues due to faulty motors for those who wanted them. Even with that dodgy motor, mine was fantastic considering Hornbys best effort at the time was still tender driven! The slowing of your model on R2 curves I'd say is down to the wheel back to backs being a little off, I've had this from a few models over the years, including one Bachmann Fowler 4F that derailed on anything tighter than R3 for the sake of one axle being 0.1mm too wide to gauge. Going from that dust, I'd say yours was a shop display model at some point...Hattons usually put those models out as bargains when they bought up unsold ex-shop stock. The performance of it possibly suggests is might even have been a shop demo model, that motor does behave like its well worn!
Watching your video back at 14:07, when you have the keeper plate off to show the bearings, it does look like the wheelsets have that worn sheen where the blackening has rubbed off with a used model, even on the bogie. Definitely more sheen than I'd expect to see from a model which has only been run in.
Thanks a lot for the info - yes the gauging is a good point, I'll have to check that! The close ups on the axles were taken BEFORE the model had even been run in - not the first time I've seen this from brand new models, perhaps they're run-in at the factory, or just manufactured that way? It is strange! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
As for your slow down on your 2nd radius curves, you may want to check the gauge on your drive wheels. They may be too far apart. Even though Bachmann has a lot of "slop" in their wheels from side to side, wheels that are too far out on the axles will bind up in the sharper curves. Or may just not be designed for 2nd radius curves. But may also explain why it is running slow on the straight run as well. I have a habit of checking all my locos and rolling stock with a track gauge to help eliminate problems like this. Just FYI type thing. Keep the videos coming. Nice to see something different from all the American models which dominate TH-cam.
The info I have on this model that you maybe looking, is that it was released at the same time I bought my S4MT. The version I have is the BR lined Black #80136 cat 32-355. It is listed twice 1st as BR lined Green #80135 (preserved) cat 32-353 in 2002 then the 2nd with all the same details but released 2016. After the initial release the opening Smoke Box Door was subsequently out shopped with the door lightly glued in place. From 2002 onwards the loco motor was replaced with a higher capacity 3 pole motor and lower gearing. From 2005 they were fitted with an 8 pin decoder socket, which going by your box detail label is the version you have. Still the BR Lined Green is one of my fave liveries and ends with me up to date with all my TH-cam vlogs... Hooray, LOL.
Thanks for sharing John, very interesting stuff! Yes this one was bought brand new a little while ago - I had hoped it'd be the latest version! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Certeinly looks like a brilliant loco detail wise, I know a lot of Bachmanns diesel locomotives are built for less harsh radius (gradient 3 and up) which may be similar for the 4MT and other steam trains, they do often have very wide wheel bases.
Love this locomotive. Been on the look out for one of these but seam to be a bit hard to find over here brand new. It looks very smart with that BR green and stripes and so does that black. I think the green gives it a bit of a grand look. Lovely runner and I am very envious of you having this. All the best, Clint
I have two of these and they both run really well , mine were made in 2008 and 2015 , yours according to the records is from 2002 . I remember having to adjust the front bogie and rear bogie back to back measurements to make them run better on curves. I have three Hornby Dublo versions and two Wrenns , when comes to brute power they in a class of their own .
Glad to hear yours run well! Mine's not from 2002 - the packaging is way too modern for that - this version was released from 2002-2018, so mine's definitely towards the latter end! Sorry to hear you had trouble with the bogies too :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)
idea: have a separate rating for detail AND features! features being stuff like sprung buffers, lights, firebox glow, opening cab doors, and in this case the opening smokebox door
The 4MT and its predecessors are my favorite tank engines, from any country. They have a nice brawny look about them. This one looks sharp in BR green. I have the BachFar Fairburn no. 2085 in N gauge in the Caledonian Railways lined blue livery it wore for a while in preservation. It's beautiful, and was a hit when I ran it at train shows (remember those? Good times, good times...). It's a tad underpowered, though, just like it's bigger OO brothers!
The black version of this was my first purchase when I retired 10 years ago for £65. I totally agree with your assessment, but I still love it. A so and so for fitting the dcc chip.
That is like my favorite Tank Engine next to the terrier and they look amazing in the green Livery and I love the BR red stripes and white stripes livery
80135 was painted in BR green in preservation hence the modern overhead warning signs. I rode behind her on the North York Moors Railway ( visit if you get the chance !)
Early CREST B R Green. The best B R steam livery. Lovely locomotive Sam . Can't remember if i had that particular locomotive in my collection. Top notch video, thanks Sam .🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🚅🚄
I have one of these bought 2nd hand years ago for £55 . Put a decoder in it runs beautifully,none of the problems yours is showing here. DCC completely transformations locos and I’m sure you would be amazed if you chipped this loco how it would run. The Gaugemaster Prodigy is my control altho the transformer blew after 8 years use. I have replace that with DCC concepts cobalt transformer kicking out 5 amps and works perfectly with Gaugemaster products as I checked before purchasing. If you haven’t yet tried DCC now the time to switch .
Blimey, for £55, this is much more compelling! I will try mine on DCC one day - but the mechanism would still leave much to be desired! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I have some of the Standard 4MT 4-6-0 and the 2-6-4T and having had a long footplate ride (17 to 19 miles) on both locomotives they are couple of my favourite locomotives. Funily enough I haven't had a footplate ride of more than two miles on any other steam locomotives.
There's something that is absolutely handsome about these beefy tank engines 😍 saving up for one of these, or something similar A tank engine, but with a wheel configuration and linkage like a tender engine... its so weird, such a lovely hybrid!
I brought mine (early BR lined black 80136) for less than 45£ as a non-runner. It turned out, there's a DCC decoder in it, and one of the body screws went trough the wiring damaging them and shorting the loco out (probably not immediately after installation)! So the repair was easy, I believe the decoder still works but I only tested the loco on DC with the decoder in it, haven't run it ever since. Let me find it for u... (there is a card in the box the says: Loco 80136 address 54.... suspicious) OK; so It is more quiet (but not silent; on a feedback controller) and no clicking noise, but it is also weak on the torque!
I've recently had some issues with a Bachmann Crab that wasn't handling well in the curves. It turned out to be an overtightened front pony and the middle drivers were out on the back to back gauge. After adjustment, all is well. I would check the back to back on your 4MT.
The green does look very smart & is unique to 80135 as it's a preservation scheme, they never carried green in service as green was more common on the western region (who had no real need for suburban tanks given their various prairie tanks) & these locos were more commonly seen on the Midland, Scottish & Southern regions back in the day
I Purchased the same model new mine is not a great runner looks great but one of the the water tank filler caps were missing but give Bachmann their due they were very helpful they sent me a replacement did not think I would get one.
BR Standard 4MT tanks were never given BR green during service and the livery has just become part of 80135 preservation life. As the owner who restored it wanted to paint the loco green and it next few years hopefully it should run again when its overhaul is completed.
Beautiful model Sam! These engines have proved very popular considering 15 are preserved! Shame the first built wasn’t preserved and the Bluebell tried to preserve the last built but ended up preserving 80151 instead! Only 2 have yet to be restored which I hope happens soon!
These engines look good in the Brunswick green like the Britannias, but I’m a fan of br black. It’s really meant for the class 4s, the 4-6-0s, 2-6-4 tanks, and 2-6-0s, which you left out.
Good scores Sam. I do agree....a fine loco but I really think a five pole motor and proper bearings would have made the mechanism so much better. If this was sorted, you could have excused detail issues. Always loved that livery. Cheers Sam.
Lovely Loco...The BR green was never adopted by BR, which looking at this, was a pity..80136 only carries it in preservation, all the class were in lined black and used almost everywhere on the system and were used extensively on the SR region around West Sussex / London area.. built in the year I was born thats why they still look modern, I am getting old ..lol.. they ended their lives far too early, as with all the standard classes, a wast indeed... Tbh these were very capable machines, my memories were fast local services out of Clapham Junction, comprising of no more than 8 - 10 coaches, so your loading would have had the real thing struggling at bit..lol
I have this very loco. I found that the sweet spot for what it can haul around curves without too much trouble is 4 coaches or about 13 empty wagons (10 with loads in). I really like mine, although it can be quite noisy at times. I love BR Lined Green liveries. But I'm not a fan of BR Green on its own applied to steam engines. They just look bland to me. BR Black is good lined or not. BR Green on its own looks best on diesels and electric units, but thats just me. Great and fair review as always Sam. All the best!
No 4MT tanks ran in BR Green with BR. This model represents the loco as preserved at the NYMR. It was painted green originally because it's first owner was German and the black 4MT reminded him too much of locomotives used during the Holocaust, so it was painted Green instead and has remained so ever since.
I bought one of these very recently, whilst the performance is really good it is ridiculously out of guage, I got 14.3mm on each axel except for the rear one which was over 15mm, it barely stays on straight track let alone points.
Have the same Standard 4 Tank myself and it's a neat little model for the price I paid from Hattons. Not the best runner though but it handles my trains well enough.
Of course, some thought it was a good idea to put water cannons on this thing; it does look good with a blue livery though. (Bonus points for correctly guessing what I am referencing.)
I have a standard 3 tank, and I have only had it for about 6 months, but already thinking of selling it, the way the front and rear pony trucks have been designed means it hardly goes round 2 radius corners without bending the draincocks at the front or the injectors at the back, Nevermind point work, there doesn't seem to be enough weight over the pony trucks. The detail is brilliant and it is a brilliant finish but the mechanism completely let's it down.
Hi Sam I personally prefer BR green over black, thought it looked majestic running along until it hit that tighter curve,therefore I agree with your scores 100%_Dave
I'm guessing this model is a preserved example on a heritage line somewhere as the overhead power warning stickers are of the current day design. I think BR black would be better suited to this mixed traffic loco. ...
Hey Sam, I think the BR Green gets it. So here goes with spotting the other standard class locomotives :) :) I'll start with the standard Class 4, after all it's in the video lol. Next is 73014 Standard Class 5. Anzac Standard Class 7. Duke of Gloucester Standard Class 8. The Standard Class 9F and the one on the turn table I think is and this is a wild guess The Standard Class 3. I can't really see it clearly only the tender end :( :( :( Does that get a gold star ????? maybe lol
Great review Sam. Unlike the model, the real 80135 is a thousand bits at the NYMR. Shouldn’t be too long before she’s back. I best roll up my sleeves! Kind Regards - Cameron
I have been shopping around for one of these but trying to get myself to spend the money is very hard! Money is something that takes me a while to save up!
I never knew that these were green and it looks great. I have the Fairburn tank and I love it, I might have get one of these to go with it. there could be something wrong with yours though, as I've seen videos of these pulling a lot of coaches but I may be wrong. anyway great review.
Apparently it only was in preservation! This pulls a lot of coaches, but combined with a curve or incline, it loses power very quickly! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Sam I thought you would run the wren class 4's but know you didn't. Sam I guessed all the standards Class 5 Class 4 75_ _ _ Class 4 80_ _ _ 9F Britannia class Class 8 And I sure love standards
As always Sam a Great "as it is" review and as a result I've decided not to purchase one for my long gradients garden railway, the trouble is I've been spoilt by my Wrench version which out pulls every modern ( including diesels) locos I own, thank you Sam for your efforts and useful information, take care, regards Paul.
Thanks a lot Paul - I think that's fair enough - these really don't seem to like gradients at all! It's a pleasure mate, glad to have been of help! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hello Sam I saw a standard 9f, standard 5MT I think, standard 7MT, and Duke of Gloucester. On a side note I fix the hornby city of truro. Thanks and God bless you.🚂
hello sam i thought the loco was a ivatt 2MT until i saw the title and i think that bachmann could do better with this model considering the detail and will you review more new bachmann tank engines soon and love the video from david
I have one of these and had a few detailing issues. I think both these, and your issues with friction on tight curves are to do with the strange bogie setup at the back, I had to do some fiddling with it.
Mm. Handsome loco, very LMS styl-ee. Almost Germanic in its stepped running boards etc.. Late BR weathering covers many slapdash manufacturing defects but still.... for the money it’s an impressive thing to have outside your shed. I’ll forgive it the weakness, on an end to end layout it’ll be cool, I’ll reckon.
This is a beautiful engine I think what you paid for it is worth the money but I still do not trust Bachmann mechanisms. Great video .Sam are you going to make any more of your repair videos? I thought they were great.
Thanks Louis - I don't trust them either, but at least the price was good as you say! Yeah I may do more repairs one day! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
No you are on the money with that one Sam. Lovely looking model of a fine loco. But a decent motor and proper bearings wouldn't have cost that much more, surely! Many thanks as always.
Sam, did you _only_ lube the bearings or did you give the gears and their bearings some grease as well? I believe what happens is that over time it sat in the box the oil solidifies and the mechanism tries to run through something akin to glue. I've experienced this first hand with one or two Märklin locos from the 80s when they used some weird synthetic oil; unless you run them frequently it just turns into resin and the loco will not run. Might be worth completely stripping the model to give the mechanism a thurough clean and re-greasing?
Yes you're right about that Jonatan - I do drop a bit of oil in the gears, but I don't go any further during the initial testing - if a manufacturer makes a poor choice of lubricant, I'm happy for my videos to reflect that. The average person isn't going to be stripping down and cleaning models on arrival, and if I did that, then the performance in my videos wouldn't by typical of each model! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Once again, I can't help but think a good DCC chip in there would solve a lot of it's running issues...resetting the start voltage and acceleration (momentum) would improve it considerably. I know, I have one. However, the REVERSE performance still is NOISY, and generally sucks..."gear grinding" sound is severe going backwards...😱 Obviously a design flaw...
I have 2nd radius curves like you, but no inclines. Nor do I have any point work. I think I know why your model steamies are struggling so. If you didn't have so many sidings and sets of points, you'd find it's not the models that are at fault. Rather, it's you who has put in too many sidings and sets of points. You can keep the points leading to the turntable, plus the express points. Also keep the points leading to the track behind the pub. Take out the engine shed siding, plus two of the loop sidings and just have the one loop with points at both ends. Countryside Station can be closer to the main line. As an ending, take out the two sidings beside the inside line. You'll have better results.
I got a black one of these from bachmann, older model year I think because it comes in foam packaging instead of the plastic packaging. do you find any problems with the cowcatchers on the pilot wheels? mine seems too close to the track and catches points sometimes :C
BR green or BR black, good question i guess it depends whether or not its lined. Green and black are some of my favourite colours. It also depends on the loco. I think i like them both equally, they both look nice on locos. Ok rant over XD
Hello Sam! Great loco, shocking with the three poll (pull? idk how to spell it) motor performance, what a crawl! Seriously, great loco, but honestly, I like your channel better than any loco. Cheers!
In a completely different subject, while Hornby had featured you in a couple of their videos on their channel, do they seem to be aware that not only you have their products, but also those of their competitors?
I think the reason it's dirty is because it's been on display out of the box. Did you get it from Hattons or from somewhere else? I don't think it's a factory issue.
Because they didn't have overhead lines in most places when these locos were built - it's only in modern times that they have to have the warnings! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Not exactly what I was getting at. In steam days the Overhead Live wires warning notices were Red not Yellow. Yellow warning notices about the Overhead live wires are MODERN ones.
BR Green Class 4MT’s look stunning. They look bold on the tank engine and the shade of green just looks Splendid!
Thanks a lot mate - yes I agree, such a lovely livery! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I believe 80135 is the only standard 4t that has ever been painted in BR green, but not while in its BR days. The locomotive is now on the NYMR though when painted in green and the current livery I'm not sure!
That’s J15’s friend the 4MT.
Do not say the word Stupid please.
“I’m a splendid red engine”- James The Red Engine
Honestly, this channel is a life-saver. Your reviews have probably saved me hundreds or even thousands of pounds on poor locos that I was going to get until I saw your review. Whenever I see a loco I am interested in, my first thought is "Let's see what Sam says about it". My favourite example is when I could either get a Bachmann E4 or a Hornby 2P for the same price and your review saved me £100 by avoiding the 2P!
Great to hear that mate - haha that's very kind of you! Glad you got the E4 too - those are epic! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I have an e4 😊
I personally have a Bachmann standard 4, and I would personally describe it as lovely! For me, she seems to run like a charm (as long as you keep the valve gear well lubricated), is quite powerful and yet as you said, she looks gorgeous! This is just me, but I love the Bachmann standard 4 tank, can’t say that for most Bachmann locos
Yeah I'd call it lovely too - it's by no means a terrible runner, but I do wish the mechanism could be better :(
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I would have to agree with you Sam about the BR Green paint with the lining. Its one that looks very nice and looks like class. I think the reason why I like BR Green is due to the fact that I keep the A4 Dwight D. Eisenhower clean at the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay, WI. Also, Congrats on making it over 85K for your subscribers!
Thanks very much - yeah I really love it, even if it wasn't prototypical! Thanks so much for the kind words! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I hope you're proud of yourself as you're drawing me into British trains for the first time since I was a little boy! I'm from the US so there's no shop I can just walk into for UK stuff. Do you have any videos giving advice for people starting out? Really dig how calm you and your videos are, that's a rarity.
Thanks so much Nicholas, that's so great to hear! Yeah I have a video on getting started in the hobby - it's a bit old, but there are some tips in there! Good luck! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
That’s a really nice engine, I need more tank engines for my model railway and that is the perfect one for me it looks beautiful, keep up the good work and stay safe during these hard times!
Thanks mate! That sounds great - hope you enjoy it! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I think 80135 is in preservation at North Yorks Moor Railways. At Bo'ness we are coming to end of the heavy overhaul of 80105. I notice that there are not cylinder pressure relief valves, that is because we have just fitted ours after the valves were set. Also the motion will be a great deal lighter. A good looking model.
Extremely fair as ever Sam. I bought one of these at Christmas from TMC and it had to be exchanged on quality grounds with wonky buffers. Mine even struggles on THIRD radius curves! But like you, I still love it. Cheers!
Ahh sorry to hear that Andrew - I don't know what it is with Bachmann locos struggling like that - I've had quite a few recently that do!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
1:59 is so relatable - searched for the prices of the latest class 101 the other day and was blown away at the prices of the 4-car EMUs - over £400! Makes the £240 for the 101 look almost reasonable...
I remember buying a Bachmann 4CEP EMU when it first came out (about 10 years ago?). I seem to remember I paid £100 to £120. Now they’re £400 plus! Won’t be buying any more!
Yeah I know - it's a tragedy isn't it? I just know I won't be able to buy them at that price... maybe that's what Bachmann want, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
BR Green on the Standard 4MT and 4MT Tanks looks stunning.
Just waiting for a Std. 4MT in BR Green to come up on Hattons for a reasonable price!
BR Black does look good, although I think the detail stands out better in BR Green.
Yeah I think it does too! The BR liveries really were very smart! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
BR actually did 3 different standard 4s. The 75xxx 4-6-0, the 76xxx 2-6-0, and the 80xxx 2-6-4T.
I got a hornby dublo 4mt tank many years ago, had issues with it so swapped it for a bachmann one with a friend (he's happy with the dublo one). 80097, it ran like yours on DC, but when I fitted it for DCC, the slowing on corners stopped, and it's a great runner now. Since then, I've picked up another, 80079, which was really cheap as it has damaged paintwork and a missing rod on the valve gear, but again runs well. And double heading, they can haul quite long trains.
Only 80135 ever carried BR green, because its owner specified it when he bought it for preservation. It currently runs on the NYMR including along national rail metals to whitby so needs the warning flashes to be mainline compliant, although I think it's under restoration atm (it was in bits when i visited the grosmont depot in august 2014).
Ahh very interesting - i didn't know this, thanks very much for all the info! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hi Sam. I have one of these. It is number 80104 as preserved on the Swanage Railway. A friend of mine has 80135. The only problem I have with them is that they tend to slow down on curves (2nd radius) and they derail very easily when negotiating points in reverse but as I am quite happy to watch them just trundle around the layout it is not a big deal to me. All the best, Darren.
Thanks for the comment mate - that's awesome!! Yeah they definitely do slow down - not sure why!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
If I remember correctly these engines never ran in green under BR and the model is for the engine that runs on the North Yorkshire Moors Railway however green may have been used if the class ran in the Weston region. I do really like the green though and bought this exact model some time ago, I plan to possibly remove the modern overhead signs so I can run it in a 50s setting. Excellent video as always Sam!
You're right Ashley - others have confirmed this too!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
If I recall correctly, these were one of Bachmanns very first 'Blue Ribband' models, which were the first models to be designed after the split chassis was done away with. I wouldn't be surprised if these are closer to 20 years old. They are a model of their time, but at that time they were probably the best steam model available, which shows with how well they stand up to modern models. I had one of the very first release, and remember there was a recall issues due to faulty motors for those who wanted them. Even with that dodgy motor, mine was fantastic considering Hornbys best effort at the time was still tender driven! The slowing of your model on R2 curves I'd say is down to the wheel back to backs being a little off, I've had this from a few models over the years, including one Bachmann Fowler 4F that derailed on anything tighter than R3 for the sake of one axle being 0.1mm too wide to gauge. Going from that dust, I'd say yours was a shop display model at some point...Hattons usually put those models out as bargains when they bought up unsold ex-shop stock. The performance of it possibly suggests is might even have been a shop demo model, that motor does behave like its well worn!
Watching your video back at 14:07, when you have the keeper plate off to show the bearings, it does look like the wheelsets have that worn sheen where the blackening has rubbed off with a used model, even on the bogie. Definitely more sheen than I'd expect to see from a model which has only been run in.
Thanks a lot for the info - yes the gauging is a good point, I'll have to check that! The close ups on the axles were taken BEFORE the model had even been run in - not the first time I've seen this from brand new models, perhaps they're run-in at the factory, or just manufactured that way? It is strange!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
As for your slow down on your 2nd radius curves, you may want to check the gauge on your drive wheels. They may be too far apart. Even though Bachmann has a lot of "slop" in their wheels from side to side, wheels that are too far out on the axles will bind up in the sharper curves. Or may just not be designed for 2nd radius curves. But may also explain why it is running slow on the straight run as well. I have a habit of checking all my locos and rolling stock with a track gauge to help eliminate problems like this. Just FYI type thing. Keep the videos coming. Nice to see something different from all the American models which dominate TH-cam.
Thanks Robb - the gauge is a good shout, I will do that! Thanks a lot for the support! :D
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The info I have on this model that you maybe looking, is that it was released at the same time I bought my S4MT. The version I have is the BR lined Black #80136 cat 32-355. It is listed twice 1st as BR lined Green #80135 (preserved) cat 32-353 in 2002 then the 2nd with all the same details but released 2016. After the initial release the opening Smoke Box Door was subsequently out shopped with the door lightly glued in place. From 2002 onwards the loco motor was replaced with a higher capacity 3 pole motor and lower gearing. From 2005 they were fitted with an 8 pin decoder socket, which going by your box detail label is the version you have. Still the BR Lined Green is one of my fave liveries and ends with me up to date with all my TH-cam vlogs... Hooray, LOL.
Thanks for sharing John, very interesting stuff! Yes this one was bought brand new a little while ago - I had hoped it'd be the latest version!
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@@SamsTrains There is two types of hope, No Hope and Bob Hope, lol. Just like me trying to get a Bullman from you, lol.
Certeinly looks like a brilliant loco detail wise, I know a lot of Bachmanns diesel locomotives are built for less harsh radius (gradient 3 and up) which may be similar for the 4MT and other steam trains, they do often have very wide wheel bases.
Yeah you're right - lovely looking model! Usually they're rated for 2nd radius minimum - I'm not sure what this one was!
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Love this locomotive. Been on the look out for one of these but seam to be a bit hard to find over here brand new. It looks very smart with that BR green and stripes and so does that black. I think the green gives it a bit of a grand look. Lovely runner and I am very envious of you having this. All the best, Clint
Thanks Clint - ahh sorry to hear they're hard to find - yeah it does have a grand look, you're right!! :D
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I have two of these and they both run really well , mine were made in 2008 and 2015 , yours according to the records is from 2002 . I remember having to adjust the front bogie and rear bogie back to back measurements to make them run better on curves. I have three Hornby Dublo versions and two Wrenns , when comes to brute power they in a class of their own .
Glad to hear yours run well! Mine's not from 2002 - the packaging is way too modern for that - this version was released from 2002-2018, so mine's definitely towards the latter end! Sorry to hear you had trouble with the bogies too :(
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idea: have a separate rating for detail AND features! features being stuff like sprung buffers, lights, firebox glow, opening cab doors, and in this case the opening smokebox door
That’s an amazing tank. I love that one it’s probably one of my favourites! :D.
Great to hear that - lots of people have said that already! :D
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Don't worry about moulding seams on top of the boiler/firebox.....the big ones have cladding joints which are noticable
haha really?! Guess that's okay then! ;D
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The 4MT and its predecessors are my favorite tank engines, from any country. They have a nice brawny look about them. This one looks sharp in BR green. I have the BachFar Fairburn no. 2085 in N gauge in the Caledonian Railways lined blue livery it wore for a while in preservation. It's beautiful, and was a hit when I ran it at train shows (remember those? Good times, good times...). It's a tad underpowered, though, just like it's bigger OO brothers!
Great choice mate - yeah I agree, they are awesome! :D
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The black version of this was my first purchase when I retired 10 years ago for £65.
I totally agree with your assessment, but I still love it.
A so and so for fitting the dcc chip.
Ooh wow - if only they were that price now! I can just imagine - was it a bugger?
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That is like my favorite Tank Engine next to the terrier and they look amazing in the green Livery and I love the BR red stripes and white stripes livery
Great to hear that Adam - ooh yeah! :D
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80135 was painted in BR green in preservation hence the modern overhead warning signs. I rode behind her on the North York Moors Railway ( visit if you get the chance !)
Thanks for the info Garry, that makes sense! :D
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Early CREST B R Green. The best B R steam livery. Lovely locomotive Sam . Can't remember if i had that particular locomotive in my collection. Top notch video, thanks Sam .🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🚅🚄
Thanks Mark, yes it is probably the best isn't it?! :D
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I have one of these bought 2nd hand years ago for £55 . Put a decoder in it runs beautifully,none of the problems yours is showing here. DCC completely transformations locos and I’m sure you would be amazed if you chipped this loco how it would run. The Gaugemaster Prodigy is my control altho the transformer blew after 8 years use. I have replace that with DCC concepts cobalt transformer kicking out 5 amps and works perfectly with Gaugemaster products as I checked before purchasing. If you haven’t yet tried DCC now the time to switch .
Blimey, for £55, this is much more compelling! I will try mine on DCC one day - but the mechanism would still leave much to be desired!
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Personally, I prefer the tank engine version to the tender engine version
Glad to hear that - they're both very different looking! :D
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I have some of the Standard 4MT 4-6-0 and the 2-6-4T and having had a long footplate ride (17 to 19 miles) on both locomotives they are couple of my favourite locomotives. Funily enough I haven't had a footplate ride of more than two miles on any other steam locomotives.
There's something that is absolutely handsome about these beefy tank engines 😍 saving up for one of these, or something similar
A tank engine, but with a wheel configuration and linkage like a tender engine... its so weird, such a lovely hybrid!
I agree with you - they're very smart aren't they?! :D
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I brought mine (early BR lined black 80136) for less than 45£ as a non-runner. It turned out, there's a DCC decoder in it, and one of the body screws went trough the wiring damaging them and shorting the loco out (probably not immediately after installation)! So the repair was easy, I believe the decoder still works but I only tested the loco on DC with the decoder in it, haven't run it ever since. Let me find it for u... (there is a card in the box the says: Loco 80136 address 54.... suspicious)
OK; so It is more quiet (but not silent; on a feedback controller) and no clicking noise, but it is also weak on the torque!
Blimey - even so, that's a great bargain - and easy repair too!! :O
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Believe it or not I haven't been here since 2018/2019 , it's so good seing you again after so much time :)
Ahh great to see you again - welcome back!! :D
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I've recently had some issues with a Bachmann Crab that wasn't handling well in the curves. It turned out to be an overtightened front pony and the middle drivers were out on the back to back gauge. After adjustment, all is well. I would check the back to back on your 4MT.
Ahh sorry to hear that - very well done fixing that! I will check the gauge - that's been said before too!!
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The green does look very smart & is unique to 80135 as it's a preservation scheme, they never carried green in service as green was more common on the western region (who had no real need for suburban tanks given their various prairie tanks) & these locos were more commonly seen on the Midland, Scottish & Southern regions back in the day
Thanks for the comment - yes you're absolutely right, nice livery though! :D
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@9:50 It's a preserved livery. I don't believe any Standard 4Ts ever ran in anything other than black in BR days
Yes you're right - others have said the same!!
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I have four of these all run really well.
I Purchased the same model new mine is not a great runner looks great but one of the the water tank filler caps were missing but give Bachmann their due they were very helpful they sent me a replacement did not think I would get one.
Sorry to hear yours wasn't much good either - great to hear you got it replaced though! :D
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BR Standard 4MT tanks were never given BR green during service and the livery has just become part of 80135 preservation life. As the owner who restored it wanted to paint the loco green and it next few years hopefully it should run again when its overhaul is completed.
Thanks John - yeah thought it was a later livery thanks to the warning signs!
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Beautiful model Sam! These engines have proved very popular considering 15 are preserved! Shame the first built wasn’t preserved and the Bluebell tried to preserve the last built but ended up preserving 80151 instead! Only 2 have yet to be restored which I hope happens soon!
Thanks a lot Ryno, that's true - it's a great number - I hope so too! :D
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80135 will be overhauled soon
These engines look good in the Brunswick green like the Britannias, but I’m a fan of br black. It’s really meant for the class 4s, the 4-6-0s, 2-6-4 tanks, and 2-6-0s, which you left out.
Yeah I agree - to be honest any livery is really smart for these! :D
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Good scores Sam. I do agree....a fine loco but I really think a five pole motor and proper bearings would have made the mechanism so much better. If this was sorted, you could have excused detail issues. Always loved that livery.
Cheers Sam.
Yeah I agree Robert, the mechanism got in the way of the performance this time!
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that engine looks amazing 0-o Great review sam!
Thanks a lot Michael! :D
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Lovely Loco...The BR green was never adopted by BR, which looking at this, was a pity..80136 only carries it in preservation, all the class were in lined black and used almost everywhere on the system and were used extensively on the SR region around West Sussex / London area.. built in the year I was born thats why they still look modern, I am getting old ..lol.. they ended their lives far too early, as with all the standard classes, a wast indeed...
Tbh these were very capable machines, my memories were fast local services out of Clapham Junction, comprising of no more than 8 - 10 coaches, so your loading would have had the real thing struggling at bit..lol
Thanks a lot for sharing Paul, yeah you're right, got to be a preservation model!
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This loco is based on the one preserved on the NYMR which is in green ,none ever ran in green during their BR service
Very cool - thanks for the info! :D
I have this very loco. I found that the sweet spot for what it can haul around curves without too much trouble is 4 coaches or about 13 empty wagons (10 with loads in). I really like mine, although it can be quite noisy at times.
I love BR Lined Green liveries. But I'm not a fan of BR Green on its own applied to steam engines. They just look bland to me. BR Black is good lined or not. BR Green on its own looks best on diesels and electric units, but thats just me.
Great and fair review as always Sam. All the best!
Thanks a lot for sharing Markus - so yours does the same thing then? Yeah me too - it's a lovely livery! :D
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This was just uploaded a minute ago and I clicked faster then Thanos could snap his fingers.
I did to
haha fantastic, thank you!! :D
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HI Sam I just picked up my centenary Smokey Joe my number was 1368 out of 2000
Ooh awesome - glad you got one too!! :D
No 4MT tanks ran in BR Green with BR. This model represents the loco as preserved at the NYMR. It was painted green originally because it's first owner was German and the black 4MT reminded him too much of locomotives used during the Holocaust, so it was painted Green instead and has remained so ever since.
Thanks a lot for sharing - that makes sense, duly noted!
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I bought one of these very recently, whilst the performance is really good it is ridiculously out of guage, I got 14.3mm on each axel except for the rear one which was over 15mm, it barely stays on straight track let alone points.
Jolly good video Sam :) very informative indeed
Thanks so much mate! :D
80135 is on the North Yorkshire Moors Railway and it’s in the middle of an overhaul I believe
It is under overhaul indeed.....have a feeling its overhaul is currently paused however
Ahh fantastic - thanks for the info!! :D
Yay an tank engine i like tank engines more then tender engines but sometimes tenders are fun
Thanks mate - yeah you're right - a bit of both is fun! :D
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You should review the mogul tender engine version of the 4mt, I hear those are pretty good.
Have the same Standard 4 Tank myself and it's a neat little model for the price I paid from Hattons. Not the best runner though but it handles my trains well enough.
Thanks Jack - glad to hear yours run well!! :D
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I was just taking a sip of water around 8 minutes in and he said niggles and I just spat out my water like “what did he say”?
Of course, some thought it was a good idea to put water cannons on this thing; it does look good with a blue livery though. (Bonus points for correctly guessing what I am referencing.)
Got to be one of my favourite locos especially in BR Black. One again bachman doing a great job. Good vid sam !
Thanks a lot mate - yeah I agree, lovely looking loco! :D
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BR Green for me as I am thinking about purchasing one of these models just to complete my Steam Railway model collection.
I have a standard 3 tank, and I have only had it for about 6 months, but already thinking of selling it, the way the front and rear pony trucks have been designed means it hardly goes round 2 radius corners without bending the draincocks at the front or the injectors at the back, Nevermind point work, there doesn't seem to be enough weight over the pony trucks.
The detail is brilliant and it is a brilliant finish but the mechanism completely let's it down.
Ahh sorry to hear that - yes the mechanical design often leaves a lot to be desired from Bachmann doesn't it? :/
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Hi Sam I personally prefer BR green over black, thought it looked majestic running along until it hit that tighter curve,therefore I agree with your scores 100%_Dave
Glad to hear that David - I think I do too! :D
I'm guessing this model is a preserved example on a heritage line somewhere as the overhead power warning stickers are of the current day design. I think BR black would be better suited to this mixed traffic loco. ...
Sam there are a couple of Hornby rebuilt Battle of Britain Royal Observer corps (34050) models available brand new on eBay, the product code is R3618.
Thanks Adam - I'll be sure to check those out! :D
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Hey Sam, I think the BR Green gets it. So here goes with spotting the other standard class locomotives :) :) I'll start with the standard Class 4, after all it's in the video lol. Next is 73014 Standard Class 5. Anzac Standard Class 7. Duke of Gloucester Standard Class 8. The Standard Class 9F and the one on the turn table I think is and this is a wild guess The Standard Class 3. I can't really see it clearly only the tender end :( :( :( Does that get a gold star ????? maybe lol
Yeah I agree Colin, just love that! And very well spotted! :D
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Great review Sam. Unlike the model, the real 80135 is a thousand bits at the NYMR. Shouldn’t be too long before she’s back. I best roll up my sleeves! Kind Regards - Cameron
Thanks a lot mate - haha blimey, let's hope they get her going again soon!!
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I have been shopping around for one of these but trying to get myself to spend the money is very hard! Money is something that takes me a while to save up!
haha I know what you mean, lol! ;D
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20:40 - This is Martin the Fairburn Tank. He’s one of J15’s friends.
Ooh is it?! I didn't know that! :O
This is so awesome BR green tank engine class 4MT tank box set I've seen a stunning bold engine railway hornby XD
Thanks a lot mate - really glad you liked it! :D
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I never knew that these were green and it looks great. I have the Fairburn tank and I love it, I might have get one of these to go with it. there could be something wrong with yours though, as I've seen videos of these pulling a lot of coaches but I may be wrong. anyway great review.
Apparently it only was in preservation! This pulls a lot of coaches, but combined with a curve or incline, it loses power very quickly!
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Sam I thought you would run the wren class 4's but know you didn't. Sam I guessed all the standards
Class 5
Class 4 75_ _ _
Class 4 80_ _ _
9F
Britannia class
Class 8
And I sure love standards
Yeah that's true actually - maybe I should - and well spotted!! :D
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As always Sam a Great "as it is" review and as a result I've decided not to purchase one for my long gradients garden railway, the trouble is I've been spoilt by my Wrench version which out pulls every modern ( including diesels) locos I own, thank you Sam for your efforts and useful information, take care, regards Paul.
Thanks a lot Paul - I think that's fair enough - these really don't seem to like gradients at all! It's a pleasure mate, glad to have been of help!
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One of these engines was once painted in Caledonian Blue. Now that would be a sight.
Oh wow! That would be amazing!! :D
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@@SamsTrains My mistake. It was actually a Fairburn.
Wow, that loco is a beast! (At least the basis is, anyway).
Looks like if an engine was a bodybuilder!
Thanks a lot mate - yeah they are beasts aren't they!??! :D
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Hello Sam I saw a standard 9f, standard 5MT I think, standard 7MT, and Duke of Gloucester. On a side note I fix the hornby city of truro. Thanks and God bless you.🚂
Very well spotted Morgan - and great to hear that!! :D
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kinda erminds me of the other one but i think that's a 2-6-2 not a 2-6-4, which you reviewed be good to see both of them running
Ahh yeah I know the one - the Fairburn??
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hello sam i thought the loco was a ivatt 2MT until i saw the title and i think that bachmann could do better with this model considering the detail and will you review more new bachmann tank engines soon and love the video from david
haha yeah they do look similar don't they? This one's just bigger! :D
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Great review Sam. I'll have to look out for one of those
Thank you! For the right price, they're okay! :D
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Does the hunslet austerity count? They were building them into the 60s?
I think that should count - great point!
Yeah I guess that's true!! :D
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Ooo you have those divider things on the slidebar
I love that little loco, its small but looks good
haha me too mate, love it!! :D
I have one of these and had a few detailing issues. I think both these, and your issues with friction on tight curves are to do with the strange bogie setup at the back, I had to do some fiddling with it.
Ahh sorry to hear that - and you're right, they really don't like the tighter curves, which is strange!
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I like the mixture of maroon and red and cream coaches
Thanks mate, me too! :D
Mm. Handsome loco, very LMS styl-ee. Almost Germanic in its stepped running boards etc.. Late BR weathering covers many slapdash manufacturing defects but still.... for the money it’s an impressive thing to have outside your shed. I’ll forgive it the weakness, on an end to end layout it’ll be cool, I’ll reckon.
Very much so - for sure! I really thought the price was good for this! :D
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This is a beautiful engine I think what you paid for it is worth the money but I still do not trust Bachmann mechanisms. Great video .Sam are you going to make any more of your repair videos? I thought they were great.
Thanks Louis - I don't trust them either, but at least the price was good as you say! Yeah I may do more repairs one day! :D
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No you are on the money with that one Sam. Lovely looking model of a fine loco. But a decent motor and proper bearings wouldn't have cost that much more, surely! Many thanks as always.
Thanks a lot Mike, glad you agreed - for sure!!
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that tank engine is massive!
I know!! :O
She is a beauty but underpowerd. I hope Bachmann see this video.
Thanks Marco - me too - it's time these poor mechanisms were taken off the market!
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Sam, did you _only_ lube the bearings or did you give the gears and their bearings some grease as well? I believe what happens is that over time it sat in the box the oil solidifies and the mechanism tries to run through something akin to glue. I've experienced this first hand with one or two Märklin locos from the 80s when they used some weird synthetic oil; unless you run them frequently it just turns into resin and the loco will not run.
Might be worth completely stripping the model to give the mechanism a thurough clean and re-greasing?
Yes you're right about that Jonatan - I do drop a bit of oil in the gears, but I don't go any further during the initial testing - if a manufacturer makes a poor choice of lubricant, I'm happy for my videos to reflect that. The average person isn't going to be stripping down and cleaning models on arrival, and if I did that, then the performance in my videos wouldn't by typical of each model!
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Once again, I can't help but think a good DCC chip in there would solve a lot of it's running issues...resetting the start voltage and acceleration (momentum) would improve it considerably. I know, I have one. However, the REVERSE performance still is NOISY, and generally sucks..."gear grinding" sound is severe going backwards...😱 Obviously a design flaw...
I prefer BR black because that’s what they have at the bluebell railway :) loved the video
-Ollie
I bet that does look nice actually - thanks or sharing! :D
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I've always wanted something like this
haha I don't blame you!! :D
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I have 2nd radius curves like you, but no inclines. Nor do I have any point work. I think I know why your model steamies are struggling so. If you didn't have so many sidings and sets of points, you'd find it's not the models that are at fault. Rather, it's you who has put in too many sidings and sets of points. You can keep the points leading to the turntable, plus the express points. Also keep the points leading to the track behind the pub. Take out the engine shed siding, plus two of the loop sidings and just have the one loop with points at both ends. Countryside Station can be closer to the main line. As an ending, take out the two sidings beside the inside line. You'll have better results.
Thanks Kelly - you might be right, some locos don't like points at all!
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4mt You fix it please where is Bourton Hall? I want watching your boil, so my favourite I’ve got a couple Are you finish cotton?
Hi Sam.
I have the same model. It too is a slightly erratic runner, but what is worse the front wheels keep derailing for no good reason.
John.
Thanks for sharing John! Yeah I've known these run a bit erratic too - not the best mechanisms unfortunately :(
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I got a black one of these from bachmann, older model year I think because it comes in foam packaging instead of the plastic packaging. do you find any problems with the cowcatchers on the pilot wheels? mine seems too close to the track and catches points sometimes :C
You should write a book on model railway running. Your so smart! How did you learn all this?!
haha thanks so much mate - all through tinkering with locos really! :D
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BR green or BR black, good question i guess it depends whether or not its lined. Green and black are some of my favourite colours. It also depends on the loco. I think i like them both equally, they both look nice on locos. Ok rant over XD
haha yeah I'd agree actually - lined black looks superb!! :D
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Hello Sam! Great loco, shocking with the three poll (pull? idk how to spell it) motor performance, what a crawl! Seriously, great loco, but honestly, I like your channel better than any loco. Cheers!
Thanks Cole - yes the mechanism was shocking here unfortunately - not impressed :(
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It's spelt "pole".
In a completely different subject, while Hornby had featured you in a couple of their videos on their channel, do they seem to be aware that not only you have their products, but also those of their competitors?
Yeah of course - they don't only affiliate with people who only have their models - look at the magazines! ;D
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I think the reason it's dirty is because it's been on display out of the box. Did you get it from Hattons or from somewhere else? I don't think it's a factory issue.
I don't think so - It was from a retailer brand new! I think it's a factory issue!
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Why are the Overhead Live Wires warning notices Modern ones? That is normally used on locomotives that are allowed to run on the Main Line Railway
Because they didn't have overhead lines in most places when these locos were built - it's only in modern times that they have to have the warnings!
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Not exactly what I was getting at. In steam days the Overhead Live wires warning notices were Red not Yellow. Yellow warning notices about the Overhead live wires are MODERN ones.
I had a bachmann 4MT tank and it performed really well. :-)
Glad to hear yours was better Charlie! :D
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