General Overview of 4 VR Plugin 1) Steam VR 1:13 - Robust Interaction System, lots of feature - Build in Input system - Great for Prototype - Not a good starting point for student, can be overwhelming 2) Oculus 5:54 - Hand Tracking + Controller Interaction system - Difficult to organize, contain functionality that are outdated. - Can be overwhelming 3) VRTK 10:30 - 3rd party solution build on top of Oculus/SteamVR - Can break when underlying provider update 4) Unity XR ToolKit 11:45 - Light weight, barebone, can be extended - Doesn't have as much build in functionality - In transition phase to new XR plugin framework, can be confusing
Unity XR does not change anything in terms of issue of other 3th party systems like VRTK. Unity XR is based Oculus, SteamVR etc aswell as VRTK and if something changes on these systems, it will break. Its all about how active developer of input system (VRTK, Unity XR) is in terms of updates. And ehat I know, Unity is maybe more active, but also more confunsing because it tends to rewrite and change everything so often, so this is not necessary a good thing at all.
I just finished watching all the way up to video 07. Thank you for this fantastic primer! I especially appreciate the overview of the plugins/kits in this video. Just what I needed.
Awesome video ! Definitly whould have helped me when I started developing on VR ! I started with VTRK 4 and i really liked it. Now I try to focus more on UnityXR.
Thanks for another great video Andrew! I needed this advice very much right now and luckily someone recommended it... l bypassed it before thinking it would be more for complete beginners... I think another title might be better, eg pros + cons of vr toolkits, like you mentioned it’s hard to know which way to turn once you’ve done the basics and want to dive deeper... you shine the light!
Naming is hard! Since it's a series, I needed something a bit more universal. This is just a much more exhaustive series when it comes to the explanations of things.
I was trying to make ovr play nice with vrtk and bent it one way to get one thing then bend it back to get something else... getting horrible. Your video made me realize there’s no magic to these toolkits, rewriting it from scratch was by far the best solution 👍
I'm looking forward to the basics! I am using Windows Mixed Reality and tried to use the MRTK, but was totally overwhelmed. Thank you for your help! BTW, I'm 73 years old, so if I can understand it, anyone can!
Useful to hear a bit about the similarities & differences between some of the tools - this is the thing that's been confusing me a bit as someone new to VR dev. Would be interested to hear any opinions on how the "VR Interaction Framework" (on the Unity Asset Store by Bearded Ninja Games) compares and where it fits in this landscape.
I haven't tried actually developing with it, but I have tried the sample scene that's publically available to test/play. It certainly provides great functionality. But, with a lot of plug-ins you're putting a lot of trust in that's it's going to be updated as Unity changes. Also, depending upon the plugin, it may be difficult to add on to or make changes for your project.
I'm excited for what this series could bring! Do you think later on you could possibly go over gesture recognition, maybe having it tied to certain NPC behaviors?
Is the demo scene with grab interactions and bubble lama that you are navigating in the end of this video built on XR Interaction Toolkit? If so, where can I find it?
The Oculus package has 2 hand tracking scenes which use different scripts but do the same thing. I even made a post in the official developer forum asked why they wrote the same things twice and which of these scripts we should use but they didn't answer.
Yeah, they can go a bit overboard with things. They are somewhat different though. One is more simple, and direct for doing basic hand functionality. The other works with a whole interaction system thats included if I remember correctly.
Hey Andrew, I am looking for a tool to test AltspaceeVR. Can you please help me. Am ready to take one session from my Enterprise side. It would be great if you could schedule some time for me
Nice! This was just what I needed. Only thing I was missing was how many headsets that can be reached with each framework, but sounded like you will cover that further on?
They all cover a similar range of headsets, even OculusVR supports OpenVR headsets like Vive/Index. But, I'll be sure to cover it all more in the next video since we'll be doing project setup.
I am a beginner Developer and i am despairing, I try to make Oculus Rift S running but, in all Prefabs i have a lot of Error's. When i try Simple_Scene in SteamVR, Controlller not working and i always have other Error. When i try Oculus Prefabs, VR Screen is Freeze. When i try SteamVR Interaction Scene, Blackscreen..... In all Forum's No one can help me...
This doesn't use either of those options. Most likely, you may not have the proper supporting software installed. If install SteamVR and use this setup, there is a good chance it would work for you.
Sooo, as of right now, between the updates to OpenVR/XR and Unity 2020 that have happened recently. XRTK isn't currently working with headsets that rely on OpenVR. I'll be covering this in the next video.
Agh, I’m not nearly far enough into game development to really know what I’m doing completely but whenever I use a toolkit like steamVR or the Unity XR toolkit it just feels like cheating
nice over view Andrew . Q. can I use htc-tracker AND Quest hands.. developing a live 6dof theatre project, actors have trackers on hip + feet for full body avatar, audience have quest and hand tracking and move in the same 6dof space as the actors
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General Overview of 4 VR Plugin
1) Steam VR 1:13
- Robust Interaction System, lots of feature
- Build in Input system
- Great for Prototype
- Not a good starting point for student, can be overwhelming
2) Oculus 5:54
- Hand Tracking + Controller Interaction system
- Difficult to organize, contain functionality that are outdated.
- Can be overwhelming
3) VRTK 10:30
- 3rd party solution build on top of Oculus/SteamVR
- Can break when underlying provider update
4) Unity XR ToolKit 11:45
- Light weight, barebone, can be extended
- Doesn't have as much build in functionality
- In transition phase to new XR plugin framework, can be confusing
I saw the whole video - and I thought - time to write a Overview - thank you @ringokam101
Unity XR does not change anything in terms of issue of other 3th party systems like VRTK. Unity XR is based Oculus, SteamVR etc aswell as VRTK and if something changes on these systems, it will break.
Its all about how active developer of input system (VRTK, Unity XR) is in terms of updates. And ehat I know, Unity is maybe more active, but also more confunsing because it tends to rewrite and change everything so often, so this is not necessary a good thing at all.
I just finished watching all the way up to video 07. Thank you for this fantastic primer! I especially appreciate the overview of the plugins/kits in this video. Just what I needed.
You're quite welcome!
Great video! I'm really excited to follow along with this series.
Thank you, Charles!
Awesome video ! Definitly whould have helped me when I started developing on VR !
I started with VTRK 4 and i really liked it. Now I try to focus more on UnityXR.
Best of luck!
Hi Andrew Thank you for answering my question through this clear video :D
I do what I can. :)
Thanks for another great video Andrew! I needed this advice very much right now and luckily someone recommended it... l bypassed it before thinking it would be more for complete beginners... I think another title might be better, eg pros + cons of vr toolkits, like you mentioned it’s hard to know which way to turn once you’ve done the basics and want to dive deeper... you shine the light!
Naming is hard! Since it's a series, I needed something a bit more universal. This is just a much more exhaustive series when it comes to the explanations of things.
I was trying to make ovr play nice with vrtk and bent it one way to get one thing then bend it back to get something else... getting horrible. Your video made me realize there’s no magic to these toolkits, rewriting it from scratch was by far the best solution 👍
mans really out here saving my life just when i need it.
We're trying!
@@VRwithAndrew That's what happens when you're such a nice man.
I'm looking forward to the basics! I am using Windows Mixed Reality and tried to use the MRTK, but was totally overwhelmed. Thank you for your help! BTW, I'm 73 years old, so if I can understand it, anyone can!
Welcome! Hopefully we can build something together. :)
@@VRwithAndrew Thank you! Looking forward to the next step! :)
Thanks for making this!! Very excited for next video.
Of course, hopefully you find it helpful.
Useful to hear a bit about the similarities & differences between some of the tools - this is the thing that's been confusing me a bit as someone new to VR dev. Would be interested to hear any opinions on how the "VR Interaction Framework" (on the Unity Asset Store by Bearded Ninja Games) compares and where it fits in this landscape.
I haven't tried actually developing with it, but I have tried the sample scene that's publically available to test/play.
It certainly provides great functionality. But, with a lot of plug-ins you're putting a lot of trust in that's it's going to be updated as Unity changes.
Also, depending upon the plugin, it may be difficult to add on to or make changes for your project.
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for a super simple video on VR. Looking forward to more videos to master Unitys XR interaction toolkit.
You're quite welcome!
a suggestion would be how to do weight or how to do finger tracking with the index/knuckles controllers on the xr interaction toolkit.
I'm excited for what this series could bring! Do you think later on you could possibly go over gesture recognition, maybe having it tied to certain NPC behaviors?
We'll see! Once we get to the end of the base project, we'll add onto it if people are still interested.
Great video. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
You're welcome, John!
can you do this for VRIF??? beginner's guide to making VR games with VRIF. I loved this video.
Is the demo scene with grab interactions and bubble lama that you are navigating in the end of this video built on XR Interaction Toolkit? If so, where can I find it?
Ta Da!
github.com/Unity-Technologies/XR-Interaction-Toolkit-Examples
The Oculus package has 2 hand tracking scenes which use different scripts but do the same thing. I even made a post in the official developer forum asked why they wrote the same things twice and which of these scripts we should use but they didn't answer.
Yeah, they can go a bit overboard with things. They are somewhat different though. One is more simple, and direct for doing basic hand functionality. The other works with a whole interaction system thats included if I remember correctly.
Regarding the choice of tools and target platform. Isn't it possible to incorporate support for several hardware setups in one project?
Yes, it gets time consuming though.
Yeah, you just use multiple providers. We're more looking at the use of existing interaction systems.
Hey Andrew, I am looking for a tool to test AltspaceeVR. Can you please help me. Am ready to take one session from my Enterprise side. It would be great if you could schedule some time for me
Nice! This was just what I needed. Only thing I was missing was how many headsets that can be reached with each framework, but sounded like you will cover that further on?
They all cover a similar range of headsets, even OculusVR supports OpenVR headsets like Vive/Index. But, I'll be sure to cover it all more in the next video since we'll be doing project setup.
@@VRwithAndrew cool, thanks!
Very cool video Andrew, keep it up :)
Thanks you, will do!
I am a beginner Developer and i am despairing, I try to make Oculus Rift S running but, in all Prefabs i have a lot of Error's. When i try Simple_Scene in SteamVR, Controlller not working and i always have other Error. When i try Oculus Prefabs, VR Screen is Freeze. When i try SteamVR Interaction Scene, Blackscreen..... In all Forum's No one can help me...
This doesn't use either of those options. Most likely, you may not have the proper supporting software installed. If install SteamVR and use this setup, there is a good chance it would work for you.
can i make vr game without oculus quest?
Errr, yeah!
Hey you guys. Any1 knows how to use Vive headset on Unity XR Interaction 2020.1? I cant get it to work without previous openvr plugin.
Sooo, as of right now, between the updates to OpenVR/XR and Unity 2020 that have happened recently. XRTK isn't currently working with headsets that rely on OpenVR. I'll be covering this in the next video.
@@VRwithAndrew alright master. I'm safe to give up trying for now. :) Thanks
Thanks, nice overview 😊
Thank you, James!
how do you get the steam VR?
I'm not sure what you mean.
@@VRwithAndrew how do we get that whole steam vr thing setup? where do we go to download that?
Unity Asset Store
dose the XR kit work with all headsets?
At the moment, with the Oculus SDK Windows MR MockHMD Magic Leap
@@levelimme wrong, they have a beta for open vr rn
yes
Yes, the beta for OpenVR plugin is available. I'll be talking about that more in the next video.
Thank you Andrew!
You're welcome!
thank you Andrew!
Of course!
Agh, I’m not nearly far enough into game development to really know what I’m doing completely but whenever I use a toolkit like steamVR or the Unity XR toolkit it just feels like cheating
It's all about perspective, some would say using an engine like Unity or Unreal is cheating.
Tools are tools, they're designed to let us do more.
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I hope this translates to 2021.3 🤞
Some of it! Like, a lot of the events have changed names. But, everything is largely the same.
nice over view Andrew . Q. can I use htc-tracker AND Quest hands.. developing a live 6dof theatre project, actors have trackers on hip + feet for full body avatar, audience have quest and hand tracking and move in the same 6dof space as the actors
I haven't used the tracker with the beta OpenVR plug-in, but it does appears to have some functionality for the tracker.
@@VRwithAndrew yep i got trackers to work with OpenVR - but how about hand tracking as well - Quest hand tracking
You need to be using OVR to access the Quest's hand tracking.
@@VRwithAndrew is OVR openVR ?
are you saying hand tracking and htc-trackers could be in the same project for rift (quest on virtual desktop)
No, OculusVR, I mention in the video you need to use OculusVR if you're looking to utilize hand tracking.
will you be doing a demo using the Unity ECS system and showing the difference?
No, we won't be looking at ECS.
@@VRwithAndrew aw, guess I'll walk down this road....alone