I'm on an old worn out and neglected farm of just over 40 acres. I have a great deal of AO, Bush Honeysuckle and Mutliflora Rose. I used to curse and fight, but now I just run a few strands of polywire (I use a billhook to clear enough lane for the fence). I run dairy goats and sheep in an area, and just stand back. The initial clearing is amazing. Then I let the area alone to recover a little, and turn them in again to get the new growth. Lather, rinse, repeat. Pretty soon it is so clear I need to roll in some hay. The waste from that reseeds and I have a rough pasture in a year or two. The only trouble is I get spoiled. The extra protein seems to support milk production better than the straight grass, and now I kinda wish I had a better way to manage the stuff. Oh well, i f I just wait a bit it'll all be back.
Good to hear it's working for you, Indigenous! I saw the same idea from Justin Rhodes, who follows goats with pigs to create silvopasture from the thickest overgrowth. What role do the sheep play that the goats do not? Do they just graze the low stuff while the goats browse the high stuff and wipe out the smaller woody plants?
@@ritcheymt The sheep are just what I have, though they add copious amounts of manure - far more than the goats. Update, my ten year old daughter has been making pancake syrup and jelly out of the AO and now I have to save a few or face her wrath.
The berries have up to 17 times the lycopene levels of tomatoes--a nutrient noted for protecting against cervical, prostate, and colon cancers. The berries also boast high levels of vitamins A, C, and E, and a diverse array of other potent antioxidants.
You are a master educator. Like many I appreciate all your hard work producing and providing your videos. I'm a long distance from a farmer or homesteader but another subscriber who tremendously enjoys your videos. Thank you and your family.
Troy, have you researched coppicing the autumn olive for livestock forage? After livestock pick off the young leaves, pick up the leftover branches and use them in your fireplace. Greg Judy has turned his negative into a positive in his pastures in Missouri. There's been some things written in OnPasture and also some TH-cam videos.
Not gonna lie, I spent the first half of the video confused as to why a pig farmer would be trying to figure out how to get rid of AO. Pigs and goats both eat it up.
Yeah, throw corn around roots to feed pigs. Eventually they will root it out! it's not a stretch at all. You have meat on the hoof, milk, hydes AND livestock that ultimately gets rid of these plants if you hate them so much.
A chain saw in the late fall and winter is the best thing that I have found to eliminate A.O. Its a lot of work and you also have to use Tordon right away to kill the roots otherwise you just make it angry and it goes nuts. Just like my ex-wife.
I agree and it takes very little Tordon to kill it since you put the Tordon right on the stump of the plant. So run off isn’t a problem. I do the same thing to bush honeysuckle another very invasive species from Asia.
My silverberry plants (eleagnus) are different varieties and I like the fruit a lot. It seems the elaeagnus augustofolia or Autumn Olive variety is more prolific than others. I love our silverberries. I came to watch this video after a friend in Michigan told me that silverberries are invasive and I had no clue how she could come to that terrible conclusion since one of my fruiting bushes is only 2 feet tall and no problem whatsoever, except how many baskets of fruit I can pick and carry. After watching the video I see that augustofolia (autumn olive) variety is what the fuss is about. Good you have pigs.
If you haven't done anything you could poison it with copper and salt. So chop and drop then take small segments of copper pipe or 100% copper nails and add salt water to it 2-3x using rock salt. Do not use too much salt as it will petrify the base. It won't harm anything other than the plant. This works for most things. Sometimes you have to change the metal so sometimes you have to use iron or silver.
I am struck yet once again how "invasive" is different across the country. Here is in the wet PNW, it doesn't spread hardly at all. We have other things that spread like wildfire (scotchbroom and blackberries), but not autumn olive, which is why several nurseries sell it.
Not really, unless they are constantly grazed. Deers do graze them to the ground. But in the next season they will grow so tall that is out of the reach of pigs, goats and deers.
Just watching your videos, I have learned more about trees and forest growth than my daddy could teach me when I thought I knew everything... Sure wish I had paid more attention to what he was teaching in the forest... Great video as usual. I watch every time you post, so keep on putting out this great information....
I bought an 80 acre farm in northwest Ohio in 1990. It was all highly productive farm ground except for a ditch that rain diagonally through it. Perfect rectangle, 1/4 mile by 1/2 mile as most farms in the area are. I wanted to create a place for me to hunt rabbits so I talked to NRCS and SCS. They SUGGESTED and even subsided the cost to buy and plant autumn olives on 3 sides of my farm. I loved them. There did exactly what I wanted. I could easily control them, all I had to do was mow next to them or even plant corn or beans next to them. I actually wanted multiflora roses instead because I had been hunting around farms that were overgrown with them in other areas but they were already illegal to plant by then. I sold the farm in 2010 and moved to the Philippines but he man who bought my farm likes them as well because he hunts deer. As I said, easy to control them in my area because 100% of the land is tilled for farming.
I’ve been fighting this plant on my farm in Va mountains. Have found that basal bark treatment of 1 pt triclopyr/ 3 pt diesel fuel in fall and winter works pretty good at controlling it.
Cut it and paint the stump with 40% glyphosate. No over spray or runoff or unintended effects. I've done this to hundreds, and have never seen AO come back from it. Plant an oak or walnut next to it to make use of the amended soil.
Troy, Just yesterday I bartered for two Birkshire guilts ( 200 or so pounds each) that I plan to move daily around our land here. I'm thinking they will like the Autumn Olive. They won't get rid of it but I'm hoping they will clear some of it. I know the bushes from the spikes. I plan to breed my females the first week of December. We should have spring piggers.
Something around here eats the bark in the winter on large stems, more than rabbits , up about a foot or so. But it's selective like 3/4-1" stem only & only the bark layer. Pushed some out with a dozer then that winter somethings cleaned off all the bark & wood was while n hard, looked like a skeletons laying around. Cut off a few dry branch & when dry , very hard n tough
They only live about 20-30 years and leave the soil so much better than when they got there. It’s been nothing but a great nurse plant in my experience. I believe they grow more aggressively in bad soils and seem to mellow out in richer soil.
Don't think we have much if any autumn olive here in western WI, but there's plenty of buckthorn that behaves vary similarly (except the berries are toxic to humanoids) thanks to the Europeans who wanted to bring their hedgerows to America.
Hi Troy, We have something we call autumn berries, that have red berries that are succulent. Are they a relative of autumn olives. They are also very invasive.
I know you don’t wanna use herbicides, but why not use cut and daub technique where you cut the stem close to the base with a high concentrate herbicide so all your impacting is the plant you want to get rid of and nothing in the surrounding area?
we dont have any Autumn Olive here in north western Ont. but i bet if you got your self some bull calf's and turned them into steers, one wire electric keeps them in, being they are so cheap to free, they would eat that all up to were it dont get a chance to grow up again , my steers rather be eating in the bush then the fields, my forest floor has never been kept so clean, the poplar brush use to run wild and it i didnt keep cutting it down it came back stronger then ever, now they tramped 10 to 15 foot high and strip them of there leave, and they would go nut for the seeds, they eat the leaves off my maple trees i planted in the yard, when the leaves get these little tiny red seed like looking things on the leaves, the steers keep them well timed for me, save me having to do it, i dont want limbs close to the ground maples do not grow here only this type you buy in garden stores that never get any size to the trucks but grow in a clunp
Michael Rogers, thats for sure, i am glad i am not the only one, you know how much attacking i get when i make this comment or say the same thing or even show it in my videos, telling me that i am full of it, that no way cows will graze on brush, they insist oh you need more fields they cant live on that they only eat grass and hay, i respond by saying its funny they have free chose were they want to graze and the bush is were they rather be, my land is half and half and they are always doing very well and dont even use it all, and some years i have a lot of them but still many attack saying no way they will eat that, well i been doing it over 37 years, here it is mostly a lot of poplars and red willow, and tons of green ground cover of all kinds, they keep the bush well cleaned, i walk though once in a wile here and there and cut and drop the taller stuff and they clean them off and by next year they trampled and broken up, rot fast, Thanks
@@arnoldromppai5395 I'm glad to see some woke comments in this section. To me it seems like once a species has become "invasive," the damage is done and we should learn to work with it. For instance, at my house I have a ton of bug activity, and one of the best ways to control it is to have lots of birds. What do birds love more than a bramble full of berries?
Thanks for sharing that, Arnold. I am looking forward to buying some land and clearing it with livestock using methods from Justin Rhodes. You've added to my learnings about which animals to use, and the roles they can potentially play.
I'm on an old worn out and neglected farm of just over 40 acres. I have a great deal of AO, Bush Honeysuckle and Mutliflora Rose. I used to curse and fight, but now I just run a few strands of polywire (I use a billhook to clear enough lane for the fence). I run dairy goats and sheep in an area, and just stand back. The initial clearing is amazing. Then I let the area alone to recover a little, and turn them in again to get the new growth. Lather, rinse, repeat. Pretty soon it is so clear I need to roll in some hay. The waste from that reseeds and I have a rough pasture in a year or two. The only trouble is I get spoiled. The extra protein seems to support milk production better than the straight grass, and now I kinda wish I had a better way to manage the stuff. Oh well, i f I just wait a bit it'll all be back.
Thankfully we don't have Autumn Olive here on our place in SWPA. Thanks for guiding me to appreciate what I have. I am plagued with another USDA introduction - multiflora rose. I get my arms ripped up everytime I try to cut it back with the brush hog. Curses upon it and those who introduced it.
The autumn olive I've been staring at for almost 8 years hasn't had a single berry or spread. Which is why I see others having trouble and I'm left confused
Thank God I do not have Autumn Olive . I do Have Chinese Tallow trees, AKA Popcorn Trees, they reproduce by their thousands of seeds, if you cut them down the stump and all the roots send up new shoots. To make matters worse all parts of the tree are poisonous to mammals, so nothing will eat it. It to is of Asian origin and was brought over as an ornamental and also in some states it is still sold. Not here in the Deep South though, here it is considered extremely invasive. Then I have Chinese Privet another one from Asia, here again brought over as an ornamental species. It propagates by the millions of berries it has, the birds love them and poop them everywhere. Its a shrub too and grows as big as your Autumn Olives do. Then there is Hack berry trees, same thing, propagates by thousands of berries the birds love and also sends up sprouts from its roots. I even checked with the US Forestry service to see what they recommended to eradicate these invasive trees and shrubs. I asked if a control burn would kill these off? Well they have tried that and from their studies, even a hot forest fire only kills small to medium sized trees and shrubs. Then the next spring these trees and shrubs re sprout hundreds of new trees and shrubs from the burnt stumps and in ground roots. So the scorched earth tactic is off the board too. Once more the recommended control is Roundup, which I will not use. So what do I do, I cut it down to the ground, I then wait and as soon as they all re-sprout and get up a few feet, I cut them suckers back down. I repeat this process till I finally starve out the roots. Oh and yes it takes a few years to do it too. But I am hard headed old man, this is my land and I will take it back or die trying. Thanks for the video. Take care, be safe and God Bless You and Yours. Mr. Tom
It think your method is really the only one that will work unless you have very dense animal grazing. I agree with not wanting to use Round Up. That will catch up with all of us at some point.
We actually use these often. They planted them all over for strip mines in Kentucky. We make wine which is absolutely awesome. Also, the jam is great too.
Anotherata boy "Red". I would borrow the neighbors pigs/goats and turn then into these thickets and then rum a multiple amount of brush hogs and chippers in there. There is a problem with getting enough critters to teat the stuff. So consider a deer farm and having variety of meat in the freezer. Maybe a farmer near you would consider throwing in some hogs and goats to harvest between the farms by taking down the fence between you'ns
Our pigs take care of it in the pasture areas. These places in our video are currently outside the pasture area. We will get them back there at some point.
@@RedToolHouse I thank you very much for the honest answers. I am getting very irritable in my old age and at some point that most people will tell me to go to hell. I probably mentioned that being wheelchair bound is just on the edge of watching paint dry. I don't even know why I still want to learn so much about the places I have been (left virginia in 53) but for some reason find it soothing. I apologize for any grief I cause
I only have a few more on my property. By spring I’ll have all of it gone. I hate the spikes that go into my fingers and break off within the skin. This is the only invasive on my property and it’s the only ugly plant on my property
We have AO here in Maine, it is a truthful article but not complete. Yes, it is invasive, yes you can make jam and whatnot, but what isn't mentioned is that the berries are actually considered a super food and charged with more antioxidant lycopene than a tomato along with high levels of vitamins A,C and E. There are other benefits as well, you just need to take the time to look. It should also be mentioned that transporting these to certain states can come with a pretty hefty fine.
How dare you use a flame thrower to hurt those bushes that hurts my feelings. Oh hey can I borrow that flame thrower I got ton of Buckthorn brush in my pastures up here in Minnesota . Ha ha but, what I use besides chemicals is a tree puller attachment for my skid steer pull it up roots and all. Love the videos take care.
>drought resistant >insect resistant >produces an extremely large amount of berries >they’re delicious and not fragile >very healthy I don’t see anything bad about it. I wish it was sold in stores.
the argument against would be birds eat the thousands of berries and spread the plant, crowding out native plants, etc. there's a video that's less negative here: "Plant spotlight - Nitrogen Fixing Autumn Olive"
They are sold as autumn berries. High in antioxidants. Very healthy Seems alot of wild food is listed as bad. WEEDS are a easy example of food looked down on
I'm on an old worn out and neglected farm of just over 40 acres. I have
a great deal of AO, Bush Honeysuckle and Mutliflora Rose. I used to
curse and fight, but now I just run a few strands of polywire (I use a
billhook to clear enough lane for the fence). I run dairy goats and
sheep in an area, and just stand back. The initial clearing is amazing.
Then I let the area alone to recover a little, and turn them in again
to get the new growth. Lather, rinse, repeat. Pretty soon it is so
clear I need to roll in some hay. The waste from that reseeds and I
have a rough pasture in a year or two. The only trouble is I get
spoiled. The extra protein seems to support milk production better than
the straight grass, and now I kinda wish I had a better way to manage
the stuff. Oh well, i f I just wait a bit it'll all be back.
Awesome! you may have to rent out your goats to the neighbors!
Good to hear it's working for you, Indigenous! I saw the same idea from Justin Rhodes, who follows goats with pigs to create silvopasture from the thickest overgrowth. What role do the sheep play that the goats do not? Do they just graze the low stuff while the goats browse the high stuff and wipe out the smaller woody plants?
@@ritcheymt The sheep are just what I have, though they add copious amounts of manure - far more than the goats. Update, my ten year old daughter has been making pancake syrup and jelly out of the AO and now I have to save a few or face her wrath.
Thanks, I was looking for this comment. Blessings to you, your family & your livestock! 💐
The berries have up to 17 times the lycopene levels of tomatoes--a nutrient noted for protecting against cervical, prostate, and colon cancers. The berries also boast high levels of vitamins A, C, and E, and a diverse array of other potent antioxidants.
Looks like you are standing in your next video too. Japanese Stilt Grass is another invasive species and fairly easy to control.
Yes, I think we could talk about invasive species for months!
In MN and much of Midwest/westernUS we have a similar Russian olive.
You are a master educator. Like many I appreciate all your hard work producing and providing your videos. I'm a long distance from a farmer or homesteader but another subscriber who tremendously enjoys your videos. Thank you and your family.
Thanks! I appreciate the kind words.
learning to like your style and thoroughness.
It can grow on you like a certain mold or fungus... Thanks for watching!
Troy, have you researched coppicing the autumn olive for livestock forage? After livestock pick off the young leaves, pick up the leftover branches and use them in your fireplace. Greg Judy has turned his negative into a positive in his pastures in Missouri. There's been some things written in OnPasture and also some TH-cam videos.
Why are you guys cutting this stuff down? It has edible berries that taste great and are very healthy! Flowers smell great too
Guess you didn't watch the video
Shame on you. Autumn olive is horrible for native species.
@@PrismaticFarm it's a nitrogen fixer
@@birdsintheburbs7414 it takes over and nothing else but autumn olives and privots will grow
Not gonna lie, I spent the first half of the video confused as to why a pig farmer would be trying to figure out how to get rid of AO. Pigs and goats both eat it up.
Yeah, throw corn around roots to feed pigs. Eventually they will root it out! it's not a stretch at all. You have meat on the hoof, milk, hydes AND livestock that ultimately gets rid of these plants if you hate them so much.
Me too.
A chain saw in the late fall and winter is the best thing that I have found to eliminate A.O. Its a lot of work and you also have to use Tordon right away to kill the roots otherwise you just make it angry and it goes nuts. Just like my ex-wife.
I agree and it takes very little Tordon to kill it since you put the Tordon right on the stump of the plant. So run off isn’t a problem. I do the same thing to bush honeysuckle another very invasive species from Asia.
My silverberry plants (eleagnus) are different varieties and I like the fruit a lot. It seems the elaeagnus augustofolia or Autumn Olive variety is more prolific than others. I love our silverberries. I came to watch this video after a friend in Michigan told me that silverberries are invasive and I had no clue how she could come to that terrible conclusion since one of my fruiting bushes is only 2 feet tall and no problem whatsoever, except how many baskets of fruit I can pick and carry. After watching the video I see that augustofolia (autumn olive) variety is what the fuss is about. Good you have pigs.
If you haven't done anything you could poison it with copper and salt. So chop and drop then take small segments of copper pipe or 100% copper nails and add salt water to it 2-3x using rock salt. Do not use too much salt as it will petrify the base. It won't harm anything other than the plant. This works for most things. Sometimes you have to change the metal so sometimes you have to use iron or silver.
I am struck yet once again how "invasive" is different across the country. Here is in the wet PNW, it doesn't spread hardly at all. We have other things that spread like wildfire (scotchbroom and blackberries), but not autumn olive, which is why several nurseries sell it.
Well as I watched on I see that you've answered my question. Evidently pigs and goats and Cattle are the answer to Autumn Olive.
Not really, unless they are constantly grazed. Deers do graze them to the ground. But in the next season they will grow so tall that is out of the reach of pigs, goats and deers.
@@grjoe4412 So cut them to the ground and then use fencing to contain goats around them until they're dead?
Possibly your A0 didn't fruit because of lack of pollination ? Either the blossoms frosted out or there arent any bees around .
Just watching your videos, I have learned more about trees and forest growth than my daddy could teach me when I thought I knew everything... Sure wish I had paid more attention to what he was teaching in the forest... Great video as usual. I watch every time you post, so keep on putting out this great information....
Thanks for the kind words, Harold and thanks for watching.
Another good program thank you
I bought an 80 acre farm in northwest Ohio in 1990. It was all highly productive farm ground except for a ditch that rain diagonally through it. Perfect rectangle, 1/4 mile by 1/2 mile as most farms in the area are. I wanted to create a place for me to hunt rabbits so I talked to NRCS and SCS. They SUGGESTED and even subsided the cost to buy and plant autumn olives on 3 sides of my farm. I loved them. There did exactly what I wanted. I could easily control them, all I had to do was mow next to them or even plant corn or beans next to them. I actually wanted multiflora roses instead because I had been hunting around farms that were overgrown with them in other areas but they were already illegal to plant by then. I sold the farm in 2010 and moved to the Philippines but he man who bought my farm likes them as well because he hunts deer. As I said, easy to control them in my area because 100% of the land is tilled for farming.
Great job explaining everything
Most "quick fixes" for problems turn and bite us in the rear ! Ask Australia about rabbits and others.
I’ve been fighting this plant on my farm in Va mountains. Have found that basal bark treatment of 1 pt triclopyr/ 3 pt diesel fuel in fall and winter works pretty good at controlling it.
Doesn't sound too good for the soil biota 😥
the berries are so good!
Cut it and paint the stump with 40% glyphosate. No over spray or runoff or unintended effects. I've done this to hundreds, and have never seen AO come back from it. Plant an oak or walnut next to it to make use of the amended soil.
yes!!
Troy,
Just yesterday I bartered for two Birkshire guilts ( 200 or so pounds each) that I plan to move daily around our land here. I'm thinking they will like the Autumn Olive. They won't get rid of it but I'm hoping they will clear some of it. I know the bushes from the spikes.
I plan to breed my females the first week of December. We should have spring piggers.
Thank you for uploading this. Great video great thoughts Thank you!
Goats should be a wonderful grazer of brush and weeds...
Just had a thought , maybe goats and or pigs grazing there could keep the Autumn Olive at Bay.
🌿🐐🌿🐖 Imagine that! 🤩
...and I've never seen Autumn Olive in upstate New York or southern Vermont. Sumac is our bane out this way.
Sumac is bad around here as well.
I know it's not something I should like but sometimes I eat some of the berries. I do like them and my grandson really loves them.
they are great for jam they have to frost for sweetness .plus our birds love them. great cover for wildlife too.
at my house in northwest new jersey i have it in my woods tall stand of oaks maples pine and its taking over in the last 3 years.i cant get rid of it
Something around here eats the bark in the winter on large stems, more than rabbits , up about a foot or so.
But it's selective like 3/4-1" stem only & only the bark layer.
Pushed some out with a dozer then that winter somethings cleaned off all the bark & wood was while n hard, looked like a skeletons laying around. Cut off a few dry branch & when dry , very hard n tough
It is good that something is trying to eat it!
Sounds like if you put a trail camera on that, MrVailtown, you'd learn the answer to a secret that everyone would really want to know!
They only live about 20-30 years and leave the soil so much better than when they got there. It’s been nothing but a great nurse plant in my experience. I believe they grow more aggressively in bad soils and seem to mellow out in richer soil.
Shame on you sir
Don't think we have much if any autumn olive here in western WI, but there's plenty of buckthorn that behaves vary similarly (except the berries are toxic to humanoids) thanks to the Europeans who wanted to bring their hedgerows to America.
good info
If I could find an it job up there I would be there tomorrow.
Hi Troy, We have something we call autumn berries, that have red berries that are succulent. Are they a relative of autumn olives. They are also very invasive.
There is something invasive everywhere!
Looks like you have Japanese Stilt grass too.
I know you don’t wanna use herbicides, but why not use cut and daub technique where you cut the stem close to the base with a high concentrate herbicide so all your impacting is the plant you want to get rid of and nothing in the surrounding area?
we dont have any Autumn Olive here in north western Ont. but i bet if you got your self some bull calf's and turned them into steers, one wire electric keeps them in, being they are so cheap to free, they would eat that all up to were it dont get a chance to grow up again , my steers rather be eating in the bush then the fields, my forest floor has never been kept so clean, the poplar brush use to run wild and it i didnt keep cutting it down it came back stronger then ever, now they tramped 10 to 15 foot high and strip them of there leave, and they would go nut for the seeds, they eat the leaves off my maple trees i planted in the yard, when the leaves get these little tiny red seed like looking things on the leaves, the steers keep them well timed for me, save me having to do it, i dont want limbs close to the ground maples do not grow here only this type you buy in garden stores that never get any size to the trucks but grow in a clunp
Arnold Romppai agreed, here in Maine we have Locusts that are nasty and keep growing, good old fashioned heavy steers clear them very well.
Michael Rogers, thats for sure, i am glad i am not the only one, you know how much attacking i get when i make this comment or say the same thing or even show it in my videos, telling me that i am full of it, that no way cows will graze on brush, they insist oh you need more fields they cant live on that they only eat grass and hay, i respond by saying its funny they have free chose were they want to graze and the bush is were they rather be, my land is half and half and they are always doing very well and dont even use it all, and some years i have a lot of them but still many attack saying no way they will eat that, well i been doing it over 37 years, here it is mostly a lot of poplars and red willow, and tons of green ground cover of all kinds, they keep the bush well cleaned, i walk though once in a wile here and there and cut and drop the taller stuff and they clean them off and by next year they trampled and broken up, rot fast, Thanks
@@arnoldromppai5395 I'm glad to see some woke comments in this section. To me it seems like once a species has become "invasive," the damage is done and we should learn to work with it. For instance, at my house I have a ton of bug activity, and one of the best ways to control it is to have lots of birds. What do birds love more than a bramble full of berries?
Thanks for sharing that, Arnold. I am looking forward to buying some land and clearing it with livestock using methods from Justin Rhodes. You've added to my learnings about which animals to use, and the roles they can potentially play.
I would take Autumn Olive anyday over the bush honey suckle that I'm dealing with here in Ohio.
That is another nasty one!
I've been pulling it out with a small tractor. I bought a bush puller from Northern tool best money I have spent.
I'm on an old worn out and neglected farm of just over 40 acres. I have a great deal of AO, Bush Honeysuckle and Mutliflora Rose. I used to curse and fight, but now I just run a few strands of polywire (I use a billhook to clear enough lane for the fence). I run dairy goats and sheep in an area, and just stand back. The initial clearing is amazing. Then I let the area alone to recover a little, and turn them in again to get the new growth. Lather, rinse, repeat. Pretty soon it is so clear I need to roll in some hay. The waste from that reseeds and I have a rough pasture in a year or two. The only trouble is I get spoiled. The extra protein seems to support milk production better than the straight grass, and now I kinda wish I had a better way to manage the stuff. Oh well, i f I just wait a bit it'll all be back.
Thankfully we don't have Autumn Olive here on our place in SWPA. Thanks for guiding me to appreciate what I have. I am plagued with another USDA introduction - multiflora rose. I get my arms ripped up everytime I try to cut it back with the brush hog. Curses upon it and those who introduced it.
What doesn't kill you will make you stronger..
The autumn olive I've been staring at for almost 8 years hasn't had a single berry or spread. Which is why I see others having trouble and I'm left confused
Thank God I do not have Autumn Olive . I do Have Chinese Tallow trees, AKA Popcorn Trees, they reproduce by their thousands of seeds, if you cut them down the stump and all the roots send up new shoots. To make matters worse all parts of the tree are poisonous to mammals, so nothing will eat it. It to is of Asian origin and was brought over as an ornamental and also in some states it is still sold. Not here in the Deep South though, here it is considered extremely invasive. Then I have Chinese Privet another one from Asia, here again brought over as an ornamental species. It propagates by the millions of berries it has, the birds love them and poop them everywhere. Its a shrub too and grows as big as your Autumn Olives do. Then there is Hack berry trees, same thing, propagates by thousands of berries the birds love and also sends up sprouts from its roots. I even checked with the US Forestry service to see what they recommended to eradicate these invasive trees and shrubs. I asked if a control burn would kill these off? Well they have tried that and from their studies, even a hot forest fire only kills small to medium sized trees and shrubs. Then the next spring these trees and shrubs re sprout hundreds of new trees and shrubs from the burnt stumps and in ground roots. So the scorched earth tactic is off the board too. Once more the recommended control is Roundup, which I will not use. So what do I do, I cut it down to the ground, I then wait and as soon as they all re-sprout and get up a few feet, I cut them suckers back down. I repeat this process till I finally starve out the roots. Oh and yes it takes a few years to do it too. But I am hard headed old man, this is my land and I will take it back or die trying. Thanks for the video. Take care, be safe and God Bless You and Yours.
Mr. Tom
It think your method is really the only one that will work unless you have very dense animal grazing. I agree with not wanting to use Round Up. That will catch up with all of us at some point.
I would think that goats and pigs could give those bushes a good working over if kept on the job for long enough.
Yes, they would certainly take care of it. It will take a while before I have our animals that far back on the property.
Our goats loved to eat their bark and leaves.
We actually use these often. They planted them all over for strip mines in Kentucky. We make wine which is absolutely awesome. Also, the jam is great too.
I have tried the jam, but not the wine (yet).
The wine has that astringent quality of the berries and is our absolute favorite of all the fruit wines we make.
2:40 close up of leaves
Anotherata boy "Red". I would borrow the neighbors pigs/goats and turn then into these thickets and then rum a multiple amount of brush hogs and chippers in there. There is a problem with getting enough critters to teat the stuff. So consider a deer farm and having variety of meat in the freezer. Maybe a farmer near you would consider throwing in some hogs and goats to harvest between the farms by taking down the fence between you'ns
Our pigs take care of it in the pasture areas. These places in our video are currently outside the pasture area. We will get them back there at some point.
@@RedToolHouse I thank you very much for the honest answers. I am getting very irritable in my old age and at some point that most people will tell me to go to hell. I probably mentioned that being wheelchair bound is just on the edge of watching paint dry. I don't even know why I still want to learn so much about the places I have been (left virginia in 53) but for some reason find it soothing. I apologize for any grief I cause
No need to apologize. I have had my share of irritable old friends.
In Nebraska,,we call it Russian Olive..It has been planted along highways for wind break and erosion control..
Different plant.
@@nates2526 Can't tell, but maybe..Thanks for replying.
Got the AO here in Michigan.... Can't stand them they ruined my orchard couldn't keep up with them.
I know several people who have lost orchards and pasture. Nasty stuff.
Try cut stump treatment? I'm in MI too
Forestry mulcher! 😎👍
I only have a few more on my property. By spring I’ll have all of it gone. I hate the spikes that go into my fingers and break off within the skin. This is the only invasive on my property and it’s the only ugly plant on my property
Do the berries have any use other than bird food.
What Peter said. I eat them. They are a bit tart but do make a good jam or jelly.
We have AO here in Maine, it is a truthful article but not complete. Yes, it is invasive, yes you can make jam and whatnot, but what isn't mentioned is that the berries are actually considered a super food and charged with more antioxidant lycopene than a tomato along with high levels of vitamins A,C and E. There are other benefits as well, you just need to take the time to look.
It should also be mentioned that transporting these to certain states can come with a pretty hefty fine.
Good points! Thanks for adding to the discussion.
my farm is poluted with those darn things...hard to brush hog those
They are think in many places.
How dare you use a flame thrower to hurt those bushes that hurts my feelings. Oh hey can I borrow that flame thrower I got ton of Buckthorn brush in my pastures up here in Minnesota . Ha ha but, what I use besides chemicals is a tree puller attachment for my skid steer pull it up roots and all. Love the videos take care.
That puller sounds like a good tool to have!
So where’s the flamethrower?
I know, right? That is my pressure sprayer wand. Trying to see how I can duel-purpose it.
That must have been a sight.... A man cow, on all fours grazing at an autumn olive bush on the side of the road.
Just kidding.
I do the same thing!
The Autumn Olive in New England exude a nice scent. It is funny how the closer you get the less you can smell it though.
Are these also called "Russian olive" ??
I hate them things the coal mines here in WV set them things out on the strip job you cut one out then ten more come back
Maybe mechanical removal assisted by pigs? Along with cattle and goats. Though my own experience with goats doesn't support keeping them.
Cut it and stump treat it. That’ll stop it from coming back.
Tordon
>drought resistant
>insect resistant
>produces an extremely large amount of berries
>they’re delicious and not fragile
>very healthy
I don’t see anything bad about it. I wish it was sold in stores.
Im about to plant it here at my place, and I wanted to hear the negatives first. This whole video sounded like positive to me.
the argument against would be birds eat the thousands of berries and spread the plant, crowding out native plants, etc. there's a video that's less negative here: "Plant spotlight - Nitrogen Fixing Autumn Olive"
They are sold as autumn berries. High in antioxidants. Very healthy Seems alot of wild food is listed as bad. WEEDS are a easy example of food looked down on
I mean out competing native trees is pretty bad imo
@@crunchworks22 the negative is that you are personally destabilizing the natural habitat of your region lol
Excavation, burning and then goats? You've got to do something if you Ever want to use that.
That's what I was thinking too, Billy.
We do not have any, sure do not want any after watching this video.
Yet people still plant that In their gardens
Sheep eat it young
I hit them with round up. They just come back l with a vengeance and laugh it off totally useless.
And you poisoned the environment to boot! 🤯
DO NOT PLANT THEM ANYWHERE!!!!! You WILL regret it!!!
What a waste of time👎🏻