I work in tree care and have just moved into my first house with land. My woods are are 90% poplar. Not only has this been very informative but has given me a new found appreciation for poplar. Beautiful trees. Thanks
Are bees healthy around your place? I’m trying to figure out why bees are not being better able to defend against mites in their hives. Theoretically their antibiotic, propolis should be enough protection to control mites.
TY for calling them Tulip Poplars. Too many just call them Poplars and there is a BIG difference. We are blessed with tons of them here in NE TN along with every hard wood imaginable. Our neighbor hasn't been here in about a year and a half due to the covid and their field is loaded with startups. You must have loads of Cherry there as we do here and they can grow as big as the Tulips. I use that for workbench tops and legs and even siding and tomato stakes👍😎👌
My grandmother was from Tennessee and she called this tree the Tennessee Poplar tree lol so yes they have a lot of names depending on where you are. Her father built the family a log cabin way back in the day out of Poplar and that cabin still stands to this day and is lived in. I don’t really understand why anyone would have a issue with this tree. Even if there was to many of them on their property you could just have them harvested by a sawmill like you did to thin them out for a profit. I pulled a seedling out of the ground on my grandparents small farm in Tennessee about 15 years ago and planted it on one of my properties in Kansas. It’s a beautiful tree now and means a lot to me since both of my grandparents are gone now. Question since it’s been 21 years since you had them harvested on your property do you plan on having them selectively harvested again?
Troy you crack me up sometimes, garter snake OK. Now you can use popular for fence posts. Why did I use it ? Well like you I had it everywhere on my place, I did not have any black locust and I was not going to use my oak or hickory for posts obviously. Only thing else I had was Sycamore and other scrub trees. I will tell you how we did in back in the day on my farm in Southern Tennessee. So actually this was shown to me by my grandfather and this was back some 40 years ago. I think Grandpa was nearly 70 then. What Grandpa had me do was go to town and pick up some 5 gallon buckets of tar. I brought it back and he had a large propane burner , you know like what they use for turkey frying, he lit it up , told me to open one and put it up on the burner. We then heated up the tar till it was liquid, he then had me go get some popular posts. He then had me start dipping one end down into the tar till the post hit the bottom of the bucket. Then he had me slowly lift it back out. We did this in the winter to,so the tar cooled off really fast. So what happened was the end was coated in the tar. We did about a hundred posts that day and many more later on. I later used them as posts on my lowland pasture behind my small lake we had and on all pastures as I expanded. After we set the posts and got the fence all up. He made me reheat a bucket of tar and go around and paint the top and about 4 inches down each post. He said that would waterproof the tops and stop rotting from the top too. It sort of looked sexy and very uniform with the light color of the popular posts,These were 6 inch diameter posts. I owned that particular farm for over 12 years before we moved back to Alabama. But those posts were as sound as the day we first put them in 10 years later. I know its an extra step and add costs, but back then we used what we had,we did not have a choice. We also dipped our popular boards we used on re-siding my barn. We put the tar dipped edge down right above ground level. Thought I would let you know about it, since you too have so much popular on your place. Back then when I was so young and started out on my farm, you depended on the old timers. They came up without any fancy farm supply box stores or places like Home Depot and such. They cleared their land by hand and used what was on it to build it up. The house I live in now in Deep South Alabama was all framed up and originally sided in red and white oak that was cut from the property. The oak siding is still on the house, its just covered up with aluminum siding that was done back in 1965. Hell you can't drive a nail anywhere without pre-drilling, LOL. Take care and be safe. Mr. Tom
Damn straight you did. we even tared the cracks and they healed up before they traveled the length. We had what we had for insulation, crumpled paper that we took from the dumpsters and what come on stuff ordered from sears and roebuck including meat to tractors from same place and the meat was first class. We knew that some assembly was required and we even got a radio as years went by. After dad died, I moved out west and then went back and under protest took mom to her own place that had wallpaper and rooms... including "facilities and running water. She lived there till she was ninety eight and of good health. Just pat with a smile. Her mattress was stuffed full of pictures she drew and stuffed in it. Never sure why. I have the popular wagon that moved me then mom and a few families. The floor is solid as a hickory nut. No I am not a kid any more as my only brother who was the youngest died in april at 70 and a month. There are a many month between us as I'm the oldest and fifteen years older than him
👍👍👍 RTH if you ever noticed some of the ancient barns you see in our Mountain State are built out of ruff cut poplars. It lasts and lasts. I use to live in Salem W.V. in an old house that was built in 1906. It was all framed and floored in poplar. You're right about termites and wood boring bees, neither like the poplar boards. Good video I enjoyed it.
You are right, pioneer log cabins had popular in their construction. Not just in West Virginia, but in many mountain states. Barnwood Builders, a show I watch comments often about having popular used in the cabins they take down and restore.
Thanks very much for this video. Very informative. I've just purchased a couple for my property here in Australia. I hope they grow as well as yours have!
Because they grew so straight, early settlers loved using them to build log cabins. Plus they’re lighter than most hardwoods. While they’re considered a hardwood, I feel they are borderline softwoods, because they are so light and very easy to split. They also decay faster than other hardwoods in the environment. I’m not sure if it’s the tulip poplar or another type of poplar, but they are used in as pulpwood to make paper out of.
Poplar is grown on huge plantations to be used for plywood production, because it grows so straight and fast, it's great for making big sheets of plywood when peeled. Good investment.
My understanding is that like many strongly apical dominant, fast growing trees, the side branches are extremely brittle and always snapping off. Do you climb it like a palm? My parents forbade us from climbing anything but live oaks, because they were the only FL trees that seemed reliably weight bearing--branches as well as trunk.
Really enjoy these videos as you have very similar ecology to where im at. I can attest to them being invasive to a point i have parts of our property that were left to grow up 8 years ago or so and they grow so close together it looks like bamboo. I can also attest to them being terrible fence posts. Although letting them whole, letting them dry, peeling the bark off and oiling them seems to make a big difference
There's a poplar near where I live is over 20 ft in circumference. I measured it one time but forgot exactly what it measured. It could've been significantly more but not much less if any. It's branches are bigger than the normally large trees around it. It used to be someone's yard yrs ago. So it's a couple hundred yrs old.
Thanks for your insight about poplar. We have a great deal of in in Connecticut, agree it is a beautiful tree. fast growing beyond any local competive species.
BIG BIGGGG THANKS for the "don't use them for posts" and "avoid ground contact"...the exact use I was considering. ..but I was planning on impregnating them with a petrol based sealant. What about impregnation?
40 years ago when I was running edger at the mill, tulip poplar where the ones with beautiful Purple Hearts , the yellow poplar may have been green or a brownish color. Even the knots where purple, however in time it faded some depending on exposure to sun light. Seen a lot over the years, always went to furniture factory's . 👌✌️👍
I've been enjoying these "educational" videos about trees. We live in South Florida, inland in the woods, and I can guarantee you poison ivy is not choosy about what type a tree is. We have them on our pines, our oaks and our palms. I can attest to it being poison ivy because I'm highly allergic.
That's funny and a little bit not! However, you said the poplar was a relative of the magnolia. Does it have flowers similar to the magnolia? Love the flowers and smell of the magnolia.
@@gingerwasheck4160 One problem with tulip poplar is that the beautiful orange floral interior is seldom visible from the ground, since the outer tepals are yellow-green and can blend in with the foliage. It can look very nice from a 2+ story window, but then you have the hazard of wind broken/thrown branches. I would love to find a mutant/cultivar with white rather than green exterior tepals.
This year with the cicadas I noticed that in starting new seedlings in my garden, the maples were eaten up but the tulip poplar had no noticeable damage. I had a 70' poplar taken down because of road widening and am using the trunk for boards and the rest for firewood. Can you tell me if it is a good wood for wood stoves or does it cause a lot of soot in the chimney even though it is said to be a sort of hardwood? Thanks, very interesting video. My tree was given me at a pencil thickness 28 years ago. I watched it grow to the 70' and almost cried when I had to take it down. So any info on it is very much appreciated. Thanks again from north eastern Illinois.
Poplar is an acceptable firewood. It will burn up fast, however. You have to keep it dry so make sure you store it under a cover or it will rot very quickly. If it is wet, it will produce smoke and soot.
Poplars in my front yard grow huge and about 3 -4 feet thick, their roots are coming out of the ground everywhere, and are 8- 16” thick, lifting concrete and outbuildings. They are also chocking every tree in the area. I’m cutting them off and hope to never seeing them again. Thanks for your detailed videos!!
Troy , I would go around and cut the vines like a 6 inch gap in two years the poison in the ivy will dry out . Also I’m very surprised you don’t do honey , I would think you would be good at it. I hope you guys have a good new year. Todd
I have cut much of it closer to the house. There are literally thousands of trees covered in vines. Several neighbors have done bees and lose them constantly. I think we have someone locally using insecticides.
They are an important part of the spring nectar flow for my bees. As to the qualities of the honey, I can't say because I only pull honey once a year and it contains honey from many different plants.
Walking through the woods I see poison ivy mainly on Pines and Sweet Gum, sometimes on Tulip Trees, Cherry, and Oak. Rarely see poison ivy on Sycamore and not at all on Maple, Cedar, or Walnut. A good vine for Tulip Trees is Campsis radicans, right after the Tulip flowers finish up the Trumpet flowers (Campsis radicans) will start to bloom all the way through Sep. Campsis radicans also does well on Walnut and the leaves are nearly exactly the same.
the reason vines dont grow on sycamores is they shed their bark every year so the vines lose their grip, you may be right about maples I never seen vines on them. I was gonna say not true because I cut vines off one but then I remember it was a Sweetgum tree
I watch a show on the DIY network called Barnwood Builders, they have commented a number of times about pioneer log cabins that have been built in the 1800s were built using popular. Many are still standing today.
Yes, these structures last forever. We had one and my dad took it down to put a barn in its place. It needed a new roof, but my Dad had other plans for it!
Would you suggest what would be your second choice after tulip poplar for the homestead? A fast grower that will provide good lumber for fence posts, building outdoor. Thank you. This was so interesting!!! And the best vines to harvest for usage on the homestead. SE Michigan and NW Ohio area.
black locust is supposed to be pretty rot resistant, but if you harvest or otherwise disturb it, it will sprout everywhere from the roots. Like osage, it is also prickly. A useful tree and good honey plant, but definitely something that needs management.
I believe any association PI has with Tuliptree is that they are both early successional species and they they begin growing together as small trees/vines, respectively.
This is the prominent species here in southern Indiana. Used mostly as "support structure" such as internal furniture bracing & interior house trim (always painted).
The green will eventually oxidize to a pleasant brown. Your friends clear coat will slow the process but nature will eventually will out. BTW, not that it means much but the tulip poplar is Indiana's state tree . . . . . But don't get too excited because Indiana has a state bug too. ;-)
same way where I live in western shore of maryland they are the most common tree then I think sweetgums and sycamores come in 2nd then mockernut hickory and red oaks and a few scattered black walnut trees , but a lot of young beech trees, they will become the dominant tree in a few hundred years if left to grow and no forest fires
As someone who does marquetry, I can appreciate the green colors, even though muted and pea soup-ish, because green is an extremely rare (natural) color in woods, yet a dominant one in landscapes and thus in the art I wish to make. Trouble is, like most if not all wood colors, UV and oxygen turns it brown (& probably eventually grey) very quickly. So although it makes the pictures look "artificial," I do tend to use food colors and other chemical dyes when color is appropriate for the design. I have on rare occasions seen "rainbow poplars" with dramatically & variably colored wood that would be quite handsome (if preserved by spar varnish and indoor siting?). Any ideas how to induce that as the trees grow?
I enjoyed your video on the poplar. I live in California . I have horses and goats. I really need shade, but will the eating of the leaves affect the animals? Thanks again for a great video
I don't know but the deer here in Arkansas eat them and I know they grow in southern California because we had one in the back yard when I was growing up
Red Tool House - Homestead yeah And that sounds good to me lol taller than the maple trees I have here. I just didn’t wanna have to dig them back up and space them further out, maybe they will cause each other to grow taller cause they’ll be fighting each other who knows thanks for the information
Since this is a fast grower, I wonder if it has potential for 1. coppice management, so that it can return after being harvested, and 2. for inoculating with edible mushrooms (e.g. chicken of the woods, oysters, lion's mane, shiitake, reishii; winecaps or oysters on chipped wood), which could be a good value-added proposition for using smaller specimens when thinning a grove?
A couple years back I got a bad case of poison ivy. Eventually had to see the doc. He mentioned that goats love eating poison ivy. Said they will eat that before almost anything else.
Hello, I am trying to get prepared for homesteading and would like to understand, if I cut my trees for use on the property (furniture/firewood/for sale) how can I replace them,so I dont run out of trees? Ty
Depending on the type and maturity of the forest you are homesteading in, replacement will be automatic. There should be a seed bank already in the ground. Clear cutting can destroy it, but cutting by hand one tree at a time will allow the forest to heal fine. In fact, removing dead/diseased trees and managing density could actually make the forest strong then before. Mine was timber professionally 20 years ago and there is no evidence of it now.
On our land where ever we clear land tulip poplar seedlings are the first and most abundant seedlings to pop up. In a year or two they are twenty feet tall. When I clear them out to keep them from taking over, I will throw the whole trees to my goats who love the leaves and will eventually strip the bark off.
Wish I had a hundred acres, maybe some day. In the mean time, I'm interested in putting a tulip poplar in my front yard here in southeast Michigan. Any worry about the source of the tree or the cultivar being right or wrong to thrive in my region? Or will anything sold as a "tulip poplar" do about equally well?
Well look forward to cracked up floors in your home cause those roots from that type of tree goes far most people think they don't but I've dug them up more than once from the foundation of the house were the cracks were so that's what your tulip poplar tree will do once it gets big
From having lived the last 12 years with 2 acres of of tulip poplars around the house I agree about keeping them away from the house. Not only because of the danger of falling trees and limbs, but also, because they are a nuisance to clean up if they are around gardens and gutters. Tulips drop something every month of the year: flower casings, flowers, seed pods, leaves, branches. And the seeds are prolific - our vegetable patch would maybe sprout 200 tulip seedlings each year if the seeds were not carefully removed.
I've not had to deal with poison ivy, but couldn't a person take an axe or chainsaw and cut through the vines and let it die? I'd think the vines like growing up those trees because they can root or send tendrils or whatever down into those deep crevices in the bark.
As the vine dies, it sprouts all sorts of new growth trying to sustain itself. I have tons of it in my ash trees, the only way I combat it is to cut the tree down when ready, then cut into logs and knock the vine off with my boot or back of an axe. Then with well gloved and covered skin, haul it to the pile to burn. I've picked up the poison from rubbing against it while handling the firewood so try to get it all off before cutting into firewood rounds.
So the stuff is truly designed by Satan! I know one homesteader got a horrible rash just by touching a cat that must have touched some, in the winter! And another homesteading channel the guy broke out from touching his tools, which had touched the poison ivy. I wondered if cutting it at the base would truly kill it, or if it would just send out more shoots. maybe cut it and coat the stump end with something like tar, or caustic chemicals..
@@shawnb2927 I know it’s been years since your post, but be careful of burning poison oak/ivy as it can still get into your lungs Trust me on this. I have the hospital bills to prove it. Even if you and or your family may be ok to handle it, others in your neighborhood may not. In Louisiana we have a law that anytime you burn something, you own the smoke as well. So if my neighbor 4 houses down gets sick, legally I could be held liable. Just a heads up
we dont have that tulip poplar here, that i have ever seen a leaf like that, we have the white poplar witch make a huge mess every spring with there huge balls of fluff, there bark is green and smooth, and grow huge and strait it is mostly used here for paper, plywood, OSB, we get a lot of USA Trucks coming up buying the logs for furniture, then we have the black poplar that is found in wetter areas, its bark is more to a black and cores and used for paper and OSB and bam, i hate the poplar, you cut any area, and with in a year it is full of 4 foot high new poplar and with in 5 years the dam things are 30 feet tall, the MNR sprays planted areas to kill off the poplar, so the planted spruce and pine can grow, poplar take over unused farm fields so fast, IT IS HARD TO KILL THE STUFF
I don’t think the tulip tree is a poplar, but maybe that’s the local name there. Poplar is from the populus genus and commonly called aspen or cottonwood too, at least in the north. It’s closely related to willow. Not as hard as the tulip tree, based on your description, but it could be used as siding I guess, and I’ve made trim with it. Mostly used as pulpwood. Definitely rots quickly. Cottonwood can have a pretty grain that is dark and can make nice tabletops, but timing is critical to saw the lumber and dry it before it rots. It does propagate the same way though, and in the spring you can snip off small branches, stick them in wet ground and they will become 5’ tall trees in a year.
For an European I find it strange you talk about poplar. For us this name is restricted to the trees of the Populus genus. Also hardwood is confusing to us, as a tree with soft wood belongs sometimes to the hardwood family for you. Still interesting videos!
If carpenter bees are such a nuisance perhaps you should make nesting spots for them at least 50 ft. away from your buildings. That might help reduce the problem. Or you can paint all your buildings or build them out of pressure treated wood. Carpenter bees don't like to build nests in materials like that.
Solid video. Tulip (false) poplars always spark confusing conversations. As you mention, they're not actual poplars and provide some reliable hardwood lumber, whereas lumber from actual poplar trees is softer than pine and typically not highly desired. Why couldn't they just have named it properly from the start? LOL
Well,I'll be damned, you can do a video without giggling like a schoolgirl. Now I know that rolls off you but consider this. I could listen and learn more from this and it was very enjoyable. So when making more of these, think the old bastard who is a thorn in my side likes them and I get attaboys from him. Just saying. Now can you fall the oversized ones so they split when they hit the ground and you can saw then into wide boards?? I know that wide boards tend to split when they dry but as flooring with a nail gun that doesn't feel how many times that you swung that hammer ... can you nail it enough to hold or is it intended to be sawn into narrow lumber anyway. AND can you saw it thin enough to make paneling that you stain for furniture.. Just asking cause I'm a old bastard who can/LOL... I really like your channel and your about the only guy my size who has knots on his for head that caused me to be so mean
We can do some things without laughing. High on life most of the time. I don't use poplar for much woodworking but it does make great baseboard trim. Stains very well. Wider boards can stabilize if stacked and dried properly.
That's why calling trees by their local or regional names is a bad idea. Liriodendron Tulipifera(Tuliptree) is not a poplar or even in the poplar family. Which you stated, yet continued to call it a poplar lol. Talk about confusing for those that are not Arborists or Foresters. Regardless, love the channel. Keep up the good work!
I struggle with using the scientific name or the common name as so many people respond that they want to be able to identify trees easier and connect them to their common uses and application. It is confusing for me. I have been putting off the oak tree conversation due to WV having over 20 different species and from my timber experience we always look at it as red, white, or black oaks!
Red Tool House - Homestead The "oak conversation" could be an incredibly in-depth video. I'm a Certified Arborist and Oaks could easily cover an hour long episode. With that being said your info was accurate and I believe all land owners should take the time to research all the flora and fauna on their properties. Keep the videos flowing.
Is there any reason not to go out to your woods with a hatchet and chop all the poison ivy and grape vines off your tulip trees? Seems kind of silly to leave it as allergic as you said you are, plus it would be better for your trees.
I work in tree care and have just moved into my first house with land. My woods are are 90% poplar. Not only has this been very informative but has given me a new found appreciation for poplar. Beautiful trees. Thanks
We enjoy them. Just stained about 100 linear feet of trim made from poplar. Stains really well too.
Are bees healthy around your place? I’m trying to figure out why bees are not being better able to defend against mites in their hives. Theoretically their antibiotic, propolis should be enough protection to control mites.
@@fernly2 interesting because the only bees I have are carpenter bees and wasps and they do flourish. No honey bees here unfortunately
TY for calling them Tulip Poplars. Too many just call them Poplars and there is a BIG difference. We are blessed with tons of them here in NE TN along with every hard wood imaginable. Our neighbor hasn't been here in about a year and a half due to the covid and their field is loaded with startups. You must have loads of Cherry there as we do here and they can grow as big as the Tulips. I use that for workbench tops and legs and even siding and tomato stakes👍😎👌
They are tulip trees, not poplars. Only rednecks call them poplars
The biggest trees remaining on the east coast are tulip poplars! Worth the trip to the park to see them.
My grandmother was from Tennessee and she called this tree the Tennessee Poplar tree lol so yes they have a lot of names depending on where you are. Her father built the family a log cabin way back in the day out of Poplar and that cabin still stands to this day and is lived in. I don’t really understand why anyone would have a issue with this tree. Even if there was to many of them on their property you could just have them harvested by a sawmill like you did to thin them out for a profit. I pulled a seedling out of the ground on my grandparents small farm in Tennessee about 15 years ago and planted it on one of my properties in Kansas. It’s a beautiful tree now and means a lot to me since both of my grandparents are gone now. Question since it’s been 21 years since you had them harvested on your property do you plan on having them selectively harvested again?
Troy you crack me up sometimes, garter snake OK. Now you can use popular for fence posts. Why did I use it ? Well like you I had it everywhere on my place, I did not have any black locust and I was not going to use my oak or hickory for posts obviously. Only thing else I had was Sycamore and other scrub trees. I will tell you how we did in back in the day on my farm in Southern Tennessee. So actually this was shown to me by my grandfather and this was back some 40 years ago. I think Grandpa was nearly 70 then. What Grandpa had me do was go to town and pick up some 5 gallon buckets of tar. I brought it back and he had a large propane burner , you know like what they use for turkey frying, he lit it up , told me to open one and put it up on the burner. We then heated up the tar till it was liquid, he then had me go get some popular posts. He then had me start dipping one end down into the tar till the post hit the bottom of the bucket. Then he had me slowly lift it back out. We did this in the winter to,so the tar cooled off really fast. So what happened was the end was coated in the tar. We did about a hundred posts that day and many more later on. I later used them as posts on my lowland pasture behind my small lake we had and on all pastures as I expanded. After we set the posts and got the fence all up. He made me reheat a bucket of tar and go around and paint the top and about 4 inches down each post. He said that would waterproof the tops and stop rotting from the top too. It sort of looked sexy and very uniform with the light color of the popular posts,These were 6 inch diameter posts. I owned that particular farm for over 12 years before we moved back to Alabama. But those posts were as sound as the day we first put them in 10 years later. I know its an extra step and add costs, but back then we used what we had,we did not have a choice. We also dipped our popular boards we used on re-siding my barn. We put the tar dipped edge down right above ground level. Thought I would let you know about it, since you too have so much popular on your place. Back then when I was so young and started out on my farm, you depended on the old timers. They came up without any fancy farm supply box stores or places like Home Depot and such. They cleared their land by hand and used what was on it to build it up. The house I live in now in Deep South Alabama was all framed up and originally sided in red and white oak that was cut from the property. The oak siding is still on the house, its just covered up with aluminum siding that was done back in 1965. Hell you can't drive a nail anywhere without pre-drilling, LOL. Take care and be safe.
Mr. Tom
My great uncle used to "black mammy" his posts as well. That was a lot of work!
Damn straight you did. we even tared the cracks and they healed up before they traveled the length. We had what we had for insulation, crumpled paper that we took from the dumpsters and what come on stuff ordered from sears and roebuck including meat to tractors from same place and the meat was first class. We knew that some assembly was required and we even got a radio as years went by. After dad died, I moved out west and then went back and under protest took mom to her own place that had wallpaper and rooms... including "facilities and running water. She lived there till she was ninety eight and of good health. Just pat with a smile. Her mattress was stuffed full of pictures she drew and stuffed in it. Never sure why. I have the popular wagon that moved me then mom and a few families. The floor is solid as a hickory nut. No I am not a kid any more as my only brother who was the youngest died in april at 70 and a month. There are a many month between us as I'm the oldest and fifteen years older than him
Excellent video, quite well done.
👍👍👍 RTH if you ever noticed some of the ancient barns you see in our Mountain State are built out of ruff cut poplars. It lasts and lasts. I use to live in Salem W.V. in an old house that was built in 1906. It was all framed and floored in poplar. You're right about termites and wood boring bees, neither like the poplar boards. Good video I enjoyed it.
It is neat to see all the old buildings. I love seeing boards that are 20 plus inches wide!
You are right, pioneer log cabins had popular in their construction. Not just in West Virginia, but in many mountain states. Barnwood Builders, a show I watch comments often about having popular used in the cabins they take down and restore.
Thanks very much for this video. Very informative. I've just purchased a couple for my property here in Australia. I hope they grow as well as yours have!
Because they grew so straight, early settlers loved using them to build log cabins. Plus they’re lighter than most hardwoods. While they’re considered a hardwood, I feel they are borderline softwoods, because they are so light and very easy to split. They also decay faster than other hardwoods in the environment.
I’m not sure if it’s the tulip poplar or another type of poplar, but they are used in as pulpwood to make paper out of.
Poplar is grown on huge plantations to be used for plywood production, because it grows so straight and fast, it's great for making big sheets of plywood when peeled. Good investment.
Do you know what states that is in?
@@getintothewildwithjeffruma8777 Georgia
Probably my favorite tree to climb!
I haven't spent much time in a poplar.
My understanding is that like many strongly apical dominant, fast growing trees, the side branches are extremely brittle and always snapping off. Do you climb it like a palm? My parents forbade us from climbing anything but live oaks, because they were the only FL trees that seemed reliably weight bearing--branches as well as trunk.
Poplar is nice to carve. Also it coppices well.
Thank you for the baby toad, snake, and spider web that made me laugh! As always I loved the informative talk.
Thank you for watching the entire video. Most people don't!
IF I don't watch to the end I may miss something IMPORTANT or something that will make me laugh.
Really enjoy these videos as you have very similar ecology to where im at. I can attest to them being invasive to a point i have parts of our property that were left to grow up 8 years ago or so and they grow so close together it looks like bamboo. I can also attest to them being terrible fence posts. Although letting them whole, letting them dry, peeling the bark off and oiling them seems to make a big difference
Yes, I bet you could get some more life out of them debarking and oiling.
There's a poplar near where I live is over 20 ft in circumference. I measured it one time but forgot exactly what it measured. It could've been significantly more but not much less if any. It's branches are bigger than the normally large trees around it. It used to be someone's yard yrs ago. So it's a couple hundred yrs old.
I recently bought a knife with tulip wood scales and it is a very nice wood grain. Almost reminds me of some cumaru flooring Ive installed.
There are also tropical species given the name "tulipwood." I suspect you might have that, especially if there are red streaks in it.
Very informative I really enjoy watching your channel I live in WV too
17:44 I wonder if soaking it dried in oil would help.
I transplanted a couple seedlings into my woods, but the deer DEVOURED them! Trunk and all.. must taste good 🤷♂️
Will tulip poplar grow in tropical weather.....
Thanks for your insight about poplar. We have a great deal of in in Connecticut, agree it is a beautiful tree. fast growing beyond any local competive species.
Thanks for watching.
I love your tree videos! I love trees :)
BIG BIGGGG THANKS for the "don't use them for posts" and "avoid ground contact"...the exact use I was considering. ..but I was planning on impregnating them with a petrol based sealant. What about impregnation?
40 years ago when I was running edger at the mill, tulip poplar where the ones with beautiful Purple Hearts , the yellow poplar may have been green or a brownish color. Even the knots where purple, however in time it faded some depending on exposure to sun light. Seen a lot over the years, always went to furniture factory's . 👌✌️👍
Yes! Over time, all the colors seem to patina to a medium brown.
I've been enjoying these "educational" videos about trees. We live in South Florida, inland in the woods, and I can guarantee you poison ivy is not choosy about what type a tree is. We have them on our pines, our oaks and our palms. I can attest to it being poison ivy because I'm highly allergic.
I too am very allergic. My wife joked that I would get it just from editing the videos with poison ivy in them!
That's funny and a little bit not! However, you said the poplar was a relative of the magnolia. Does it have flowers similar to the magnolia? Love the flowers and smell of the magnolia.
They are much smaller and not nearly as fragrant.
@@gingerwasheck4160 One problem with tulip poplar is that the beautiful orange floral interior is seldom visible from the ground, since the outer tepals are yellow-green and can blend in with the foliage. It can look very nice from a 2+ story window, but then you have the hazard of wind broken/thrown branches. I would love to find a mutant/cultivar with white rather than green exterior tepals.
This year with the cicadas I noticed that in starting new seedlings in my garden, the maples were eaten up but the tulip poplar had
no noticeable damage. I had a 70' poplar taken down because of road widening and am using the trunk for boards and the rest for
firewood. Can you tell me if it is a good wood for wood stoves or does it cause a lot of soot in the chimney even though it is said to
be a sort of hardwood? Thanks, very interesting video. My tree was given me at a pencil thickness 28 years ago. I watched it grow
to the 70' and almost cried when I had to take it down. So any info on it is very much appreciated. Thanks again from north eastern
Illinois.
Poplar is an acceptable firewood. It will burn up fast, however. You have to keep it dry so make sure you store it under a cover or it will rot very quickly. If it is wet, it will produce smoke and soot.
Beautiful tree! I have one in my yard and just made a video on planting another. Fingers crossed on if she lives.
Those are a weed to me and pick um out every year
Nice in depth talk. Thank you.
Poplars in my front yard grow huge and about 3 -4 feet thick, their roots are coming out of the ground everywhere, and are 8- 16” thick, lifting concrete and outbuildings.
They are also chocking every tree in the area.
I’m cutting them off and hope to never seeing them again.
Thanks for your detailed videos!!
Troy , I would go around and cut the vines like a 6 inch gap in two years the poison in the ivy will dry out . Also I’m very surprised you don’t do honey , I would think you would be good at it. I hope you guys have a good new year. Todd
I have cut much of it closer to the house. There are literally thousands of trees covered in vines. Several neighbors have done bees and lose them constantly. I think we have someone locally using insecticides.
They are an important part of the spring nectar flow for my bees. As to the qualities of the honey, I can't say because I only pull honey once a year and it contains honey from many different plants.
Walking through the woods I see poison ivy mainly on Pines and Sweet Gum, sometimes on Tulip Trees, Cherry, and Oak. Rarely see poison ivy on Sycamore and not at all on Maple, Cedar, or Walnut. A good vine for Tulip Trees is Campsis radicans, right after the Tulip flowers finish up the Trumpet flowers (Campsis radicans) will start to bloom all the way through Sep. Campsis radicans also does well on Walnut and the leaves are nearly exactly the same.
the reason vines dont grow on sycamores is they shed their bark every year so the vines lose their grip, you may be right about maples I never seen vines on them. I was gonna say not true because I cut vines off one but then I remember it was a Sweetgum tree
I like your video’s very educational. Thanks
There is a massive one growing in my school, there is also a black poplar too
I heard that pileated woodpeckers in the background.
They are everywhere in our valley
I watch a show on the DIY network called Barnwood Builders, they have commented a number of times about pioneer log cabins that have been built in the 1800s were built using popular. Many are still standing today.
I believe those guys are here in WV, too!
Red Tool House - Homestead yes, they are just to the west of you in Lewisburg
Lewisburg is actually east of us :) but I know where you are talking about. I have driven by their setup before.
Yes, these structures last forever. We had one and my dad took it down to put a barn in its place. It needed a new roof, but my Dad had other plans for it!
I just bought a small farm with a ton of large tulip poplars. I was thinking about framing our home with it. Any chance thats a good idea?
very informative, thanks
When you fall a popular how do you deal with the poison ivy that’s wrapped around its ?
Does poplar help bees make propolis? TY🎉🤗
Would you suggest what would be your second choice after tulip poplar for the homestead? A fast grower that will provide good lumber for fence posts, building outdoor. Thank you. This was so interesting!!! And the best vines to harvest for usage on the homestead. SE Michigan and NW Ohio area.
Osage orange aka bois d'arc. Makes great bows too.
@@buckfuhtt2083 Thank you for your kind and thoughtful reply Nathan.
black locust is supposed to be pretty rot resistant, but if you harvest or otherwise disturb it, it will sprout everywhere from the roots. Like osage, it is also prickly. A useful tree and good honey plant, but definitely something that needs management.
I believe any association PI has with Tuliptree is that they are both early successional species and they they begin growing together as small trees/vines, respectively.
Very good. That makes sense.
This is the prominent species here in southern Indiana. Used mostly as "support structure" such as internal furniture bracing & interior house trim (always painted).
I have had several friend do house trim with poplar and just clear coat it. It looks a bit strange with the green streaks.
The green will eventually oxidize to a pleasant brown. Your friends clear coat will slow the process but nature will eventually will out.
BTW, not that it means much but the tulip poplar is Indiana's state tree . . . . . But don't get too excited because Indiana has a state bug too. ;-)
It did eventually. His wife gave him crap about it for a while.
Yes, lots of first time poplar users around here learn that lesson the hard way. You try to tell them but do they listen?
I like your videos on trees as I am trying to learn as much as possible before we move. Is there a way to put them on a list for easier access?
same way where I live in western shore of maryland they are the most common tree then I think sweetgums and sycamores come in 2nd then mockernut hickory and red oaks and a few scattered black walnut trees , but a lot of young beech trees, they will become the dominant tree in a few hundred years if left to grow and no forest fires
does that wood make good firewood
Burns too quickly for me. Some folks like it. Good for campfires as it puts off got light and heat when dry.
How can i harvest the seeds when everything is so high up? I want to mass plant them from seed.
I have several that I know are about 150 to 200 years old. The Native Americans used them to carve canoes out of because they were so straight.
As someone who does marquetry, I can appreciate the green colors, even though muted and pea soup-ish, because green is an extremely rare (natural) color in woods, yet a dominant one in landscapes and thus in the art I wish to make. Trouble is, like most if not all wood colors, UV and oxygen turns it brown (& probably eventually grey) very quickly. So although it makes the pictures look "artificial," I do tend to use food colors and other chemical dyes when color is appropriate for the design.
I have on rare occasions seen "rainbow poplars" with dramatically & variably colored wood that would be quite handsome (if preserved by spar varnish and indoor siting?). Any ideas how to induce that as the trees grow?
I've seen poison ivy vines on oak and maple trees in Michigan. Never on willow or sycamore, though.
Those trees 🌳poplar is good for firewood?
I enjoyed your video on the poplar. I live in California . I have horses and goats. I really need shade, but will the eating of the leaves affect the animals? Thanks again for a great video
I don't know but the deer here in Arkansas eat them and I know they grow in southern California because we had one in the back yard when I was growing up
I’ve got two of them that I planted about 12 foot apart from each other, their about two years old is 12 foot ok?
The canopies will eventually comingle but that will be fine. Keep in mind these trees can grow over 90 feet tall.
Red Tool House - Homestead yeah And that sounds good to me lol taller than the maple trees I have here. I just didn’t wanna have to dig them back up and space them further out, maybe they will cause each other to grow taller cause they’ll be fighting each other who knows thanks for the information
Since this is a fast grower, I wonder if it has potential for 1. coppice management, so that it can return after being harvested, and 2. for inoculating with edible mushrooms (e.g. chicken of the woods, oysters, lion's mane, shiitake, reishii; winecaps or oysters on chipped wood), which could be a good value-added proposition for using smaller specimens when thinning a grove?
A couple years back I got a bad case of poison ivy. Eventually had to see the doc. He mentioned that goats love eating poison ivy. Said they will eat that before almost anything else.
I have heard that too. My pigs sure to love it.
easy to pant as well
Hello,
I am trying to get prepared for homesteading and would like to understand, if I cut my trees for use on the property (furniture/firewood/for sale) how can I replace them,so I dont run out of trees? Ty
Depending on the type and maturity of the forest you are homesteading in, replacement will be automatic. There should be a seed bank already in the ground. Clear cutting can destroy it, but cutting by hand one tree at a time will allow the forest to heal fine. In fact, removing dead/diseased trees and managing density could actually make the forest strong then before. Mine was timber professionally 20 years ago and there is no evidence of it now.
@@RedToolHouse
Thank you
this is why they named them Tulip Popular
The name is TULIP TREE!!!!!!!
Do you sell your popular?
Flowers are attractive to the baltimore oriel.
On our land where ever we clear land tulip poplar seedlings are the first and most abundant seedlings to pop up. In a year or two they are twenty feet tall. When I clear them out to keep them from taking over, I will throw the whole trees to my goats who love the leaves and will eventually strip the bark off.
Just to be clear, the "tulip poplar" is NOT a poplar tree. So referring to its wood as poplar is misleading.
It's tulip tree. Only rednecks call them poplars.
So what is it exactly? I have a ton of these in my yard and I personally love them
They are from the Magnolia family - cousin to Magnolia. The pretty old family of the plants
May I have this tulip popular tree cutting or little palant in Pakistan.
1:58 Leaf close up
2:50 Bark
I cut these vines every time I come upon them they overwhelm the tree
is that a poison oak vine or something like that?
George Washington yes If it looks fibrous it’s usually poison ivy I hate that stuff
I cut um off any tree that looks like its growing good and still cut the vine even if the tree is dead
I love working with poplar wood.
With all the pros with the use of it makes it a POPLAR wood. Lol
No doubt!
Wish I had a hundred acres, maybe some day. In the mean time, I'm interested in putting a tulip poplar in my front yard here in southeast Michigan. Any worry about the source of the tree or the cultivar being right or wrong to thrive in my region? Or will anything sold as a "tulip poplar" do about equally well?
Well look forward to cracked up floors in your home cause those roots from that type of tree goes far most people think they don't but I've dug them up more than once from the foundation of the house were the cracks were so that's what your tulip poplar tree will do once it gets big
Poplar trees retain water hence giving vines a water and mineral source
I haven't seen poison ivy vines like that since i left louisiana
We have a special on poison ivy around here. We thought about farming it and multiflora rose. IF there was a market, we would be loaded!
@@RedToolHouse Apparently Chinese lacquer is made from the Asian version of poison sumac. I don't have a clue how to process it safely, though.
Charring the butt end of a tulip tree post might make them last longer, but I have no direct experience with that.
Pls send some plants in pakistan . Plantation is my passion
Everything I've seen and read indicated that they like full sun, but can thrive in a variety of soils.
I have a 60 year old one in my yard and I've yet to see a bee this year something's wrong
Those vines are lucky to not be on property I own.
i need a cumber tree
I go maniacal on the trumpet and grape vines infesting my poplars
From having lived the last 12 years with 2 acres of of tulip poplars around the house I agree about keeping them away from the house. Not only because of the danger of falling trees and limbs, but also, because they are a nuisance to clean up if they are around gardens and gutters. Tulips drop something every month of the year: flower casings, flowers, seed pods, leaves, branches. And the seeds are prolific - our vegetable patch would maybe sprout 200 tulip seedlings each year if the seeds were not carefully removed.
They do tend to always be shedding something.
I've not had to deal with poison ivy, but couldn't a person take an axe or chainsaw and cut through the vines and let it die? I'd think the vines like growing up those trees because they can root or send tendrils or whatever down into those deep crevices in the bark.
I have, at times, cut it at the base. I usually end up getting some just because of the sawdust or wood chips that touch me.
unless you cut it and apply herbicide (maybe multiple times) the ivy will resprout.
As the vine dies, it sprouts all sorts of new growth trying to sustain itself. I have tons of it in my ash trees, the only way I combat it is to cut the tree down when ready, then cut into logs and knock the vine off with my boot or back of an axe. Then with well gloved and covered skin, haul it to the pile to burn. I've picked up the poison from rubbing against it while handling the firewood so try to get it all off before cutting into firewood rounds.
So the stuff is truly designed by Satan! I know one homesteader got a horrible rash just by touching a cat that must have touched some, in the winter! And another homesteading channel the guy broke out from touching his tools, which had touched the poison ivy.
I wondered if cutting it at the base would truly kill it, or if it would just send out more shoots. maybe cut it and coat the stump end with something like tar, or caustic chemicals..
@@shawnb2927 I know it’s been years since your post, but be careful of burning poison oak/ivy as it can still get into your lungs Trust me on this. I have the hospital bills to prove it. Even if you and or your family may be ok to handle it, others in your neighborhood may not. In Louisiana we have a law that anytime you burn something, you own the smoke as well. So if my neighbor 4 houses down gets sick, legally I could be held liable. Just a heads up
Gum trees and sassafras trees.
When the first settlers came to Ohio, the tulip poplars were so big, that 10 men holding hands could not reach around them.
yep many eastern trees were like that sad we chopped them all down, at least we saved the Redwoods and sequoias
i was told poplar firewood is better than pine firewood
all firewood is better than pine which you should never use as firewood
we dont have that tulip poplar here, that i have ever seen a leaf like that, we have the white poplar witch make a huge mess every spring with there huge balls of fluff, there bark is green and smooth, and grow huge and strait it is mostly used here for paper, plywood, OSB, we get a lot of USA Trucks coming up buying the logs for furniture, then we have the black poplar that is found in wetter areas, its bark is more to a black and cores and used for paper and OSB and bam, i hate the poplar, you cut any area, and with in a year it is full of 4 foot high new poplar and with in 5 years the dam things are 30 feet tall, the MNR sprays planted areas to kill off the poplar, so the planted spruce and pine can grow, poplar take over unused farm fields so fast, IT IS HARD TO KILL THE STUFF
Yuck, that doesn't sound fun at all. Glad we don't have that variety down here.
I don’t think the tulip tree is a poplar, but maybe that’s the local name there. Poplar is from the populus genus and commonly called aspen or cottonwood too, at least in the north. It’s closely related to willow. Not as hard as the tulip tree, based on your description, but it could be used as siding I guess, and I’ve made trim with it. Mostly used as pulpwood. Definitely rots quickly. Cottonwood can have a pretty grain that is dark and can make nice tabletops, but timing is critical to saw the lumber and dry it before it rots.
It does propagate the same way though, and in the spring you can snip off small branches, stick them in wet ground and they will become 5’ tall trees in a year.
I'd not cut the best ones ever. Just let a few grow. Your big ones are still young.
See the face in the trees over your head from 10 to 11 minutes?
When children, my siblings and I called it a Telephone tree because of the leaf shape.
For an European I find it strange you talk about poplar. For us this name is restricted to the trees of the Populus genus. Also hardwood is confusing to us, as a tree with soft wood belongs sometimes to the hardwood family for you. Still interesting videos!
Thanks! Sometimes we find European things odd too! 😁
@@RedToolHouse Yeah like the fact that Europeans call moose elk, they call elk red deer, and they call caribou reindeer.
If carpenter bees are such a nuisance perhaps you should make nesting spots for them at least 50 ft. away from your buildings. That might help reduce the problem. Or you can paint all your buildings or build them out of pressure treated wood. Carpenter bees don't like to build nests in materials like that.
Why dont you take out the poison ivy growing on your poplars?
I absolutely hate how people can’t just name this tree one name
It's tulip tree. One name.
@@Dr.LongMonkey Huh?
Solid video. Tulip (false) poplars always spark confusing conversations. As you mention, they're not actual poplars and provide some reliable hardwood lumber, whereas lumber from actual poplar trees is softer than pine and typically not highly desired. Why couldn't they just have named it properly from the start? LOL
Because tulip trees aren;t found in Europe and when Europeans moved here they had no idea what to call it
Well,I'll be damned, you can do a video without giggling like a schoolgirl. Now I know that rolls off you but consider this. I could listen and learn more from this and it was very enjoyable. So when making more of these, think the old bastard who is a thorn in my side likes them and I get attaboys from him. Just saying. Now can you fall the oversized ones so they split when they hit the ground and you can saw then into wide boards?? I know that wide boards tend to split when they dry but as flooring with a nail gun that doesn't feel how many times that you swung that hammer ... can you nail it enough to hold or is it intended to be sawn into narrow lumber anyway. AND can you saw it thin enough to make paneling that you stain for furniture.. Just asking cause I'm a old bastard who can/LOL... I really like your channel and your about the only guy my size who has knots on his for head that caused me to be so mean
We can do some things without laughing. High on life most of the time. I don't use poplar for much woodworking but it does make great baseboard trim. Stains very well. Wider boards can stabilize if stacked and dried properly.
pawpaws?
That's why calling trees by their local or regional names is a bad idea. Liriodendron Tulipifera(Tuliptree) is not a poplar or even in the poplar family. Which you stated, yet continued to call it a poplar lol. Talk about confusing for those that are not Arborists or Foresters. Regardless, love the channel. Keep up the good work!
I struggle with using the scientific name or the common name as so many people respond that they want to be able to identify trees easier and connect them to their common uses and application. It is confusing for me. I have been putting off the oak tree conversation due to WV having over 20 different species and from my timber experience we always look at it as red, white, or black oaks!
Red Tool House - Homestead The "oak conversation" could be an incredibly in-depth video. I'm a Certified Arborist and Oaks could easily cover an hour long episode. With that being said your info was accurate and I believe all land owners should take the time to research all the flora and fauna on their properties. Keep the videos flowing.
I wish you were closer we could do a more professional level discussion on trees!
Mushroom hunters have the same problem.
Is there any reason not to go out to your woods with a hatchet and chop all the poison ivy and grape vines off your tulip trees? Seems kind of silly to leave it as allergic as you said you are, plus it would be better for your trees.
Man that massive nasty poison ivy climbing up that poplar gave me a scare
I dont mind poison ivy I dont get a rash from it and it doesnt strangle the trees like most vines
you did not just touch that snake.. erwww
Pretty sure this isn’t a poplar tree, leaves don’t look poplar
Kill all the poison ivy, will ya!
I cant take any advice from a man who claims to be a homesteader and stands next to a giant poison ivy vine and touches it….
Ain’t scared…
Interesting video. Your t-shirt tells me that your information needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
All internet information should be taken with a grain of salt, especially from former youth basketball coaches.
All internet information should be taken with a grain of salt, especially from former youth basketball coaches.
All internet information should be taken with a grain of salt, especially from former youth basketball coaches.
All internet information should be taken with a grain of salt, especially from former youth basketball coaches.
All internet information should be taken with a grain of salt, especially from former youth basketball coaches.