Honkai Star Rail is a Fever Dream
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2024
- This game is a wild ride from start to "finish".
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0:00 Intro
1:32 Part 1: SCP Containment Breach
4:59 Part 2: It's Literally Frostpunk (2018)
9:29 Part 3: Chinese Heaven, IN SPAAAAAAACE
13:38 Part 4: Gameplay
16:20 Part 5: Relics
17:32 Part 6: A Mixed Bag
18:50 Part 7: The Little Things
19:31 Part 8: The Soundtrack
20:50 Final Thoughts
21:33 End Credits
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I'm probably one of the few who are actually pretty happy with the story for the Loufu arc. There are parts that are not really well placed (I'm looking at you Dan Shu), but the consistency is fine.
Heck as a lore geek, I pretty much predicted Tingyun being the one smuggling the Stellaron..... but damn I did not expect her NOT to be Tingyun or the neck snap thing (although looking back, Loucha should've been a hint). Also the lore tid bits in the dragon palace are *very* interesting to say the least (yes, I'm looking at you "Bailu").
I can understand why most people are kinda "confused" in this arc, and I blame Hoyo's decision to just put important clues as miss-able crumbs, but I would say they did put the crumbs for some to piece together, so consistency is not the problem.
the sanctus medicus part is so mid bro
@@lechungus1832it's an optional mission now
@@basil8397 i wish i could erase my memories and play the luofu story again without the S medicus part.
The side quests that they add on like IL's and others make everything feel ACTUALLY smooth.
For me Dan Shu part was the only one even remotely engaging, too bad it ended up being an illusion of choice in the end
HSR is way more F2P friendly then Genshin is.
In the current Event we got 1000 Jade (primogems) and in the next Update we can get up to around 2500 Jade +10 free pulls by doing all the new stuff.
You can get A LOT of 5-star Items without spending money.
this is not true, you actually get more. f2p you can get up to around 6000+ jades per patch (assuming you do a good amount of memory of chaos)
@@abr4xasand the event gives 1200 jades, not 1000
I wish genshin had some way to give 5 star weapons for free like star rail does with Herta's shop
Yeah thats cap. I have a full mono geo team on my f2p account and that team is expensive as hell. 4 5 stars just to run it effectively and I have all of the characters for it. Not to mention I also have Wanderer, Xiao, Ganyu, Diluc,
@@CrashDAMFCourse I also have 16 5-Star Chars + Weapon on my F2P Account, but HSR is still more F2P friendly.
daniel power up and the mystery behind his backstory had been a foreshadowing, it's the element of surprise for me lmao
Yeah im playing on a secondary account right now, and before going to the Luofu, Dan Heng talks to Himeko aboard the Astral Express, where they talk about a past he's trying to run from, and how dangerous Blade is. He also has nightmares about Blade, showing more connection to the Luofu, though I haven't noticed much if any sign that he was Vidyadara until it was revealed - save perhaps for March 7th and Dan's jokes about his secret hidden power 2-3 times prior to this.
@@nrgaard1533 His connection to the Vidyadara was foreshadowed in the conversation with Sushang and Luocha. When Luocha bring up the topic of Long of the Permenace, Dan Heng was really knowlagable about it..
@@satchie1049 oh yeah that's true!
12:15 I still have to finish watching the video but I want to say my take about Dan Heng transformation, because I feel like his connection to the Xiangshou Loufu, Blade and his mysterious past were very much established. And March 7th saying if he has a secret power (I don't remember the exact words) was a very big forshadowing lol. I didn't understand him being a Vidihadara or anything about what actually happened, only that he was from the Loufu and that there were unfinished businness and most likely some hidden power. I think they made us enough intrested in the mystery without telling us precisely what was happening and I actually liked it.
About Mara I totally agree, definetly not well explained and not well developed
I love that one of the first talking points in the video is the ost. So true. Cocolia boss ost really is the best part of the entire game
HSR is small, no open world, no exploration. So the repetitiveness catches up really quickly if you keep playing regularly. But it's great for irregular binges after updates, the storytelling is cool. And Hoyo so far seem to keep overzealous dialog writers in check, not much junk to click-scroll through, contrary to Genshin
there is some exploration.... we've only gotten the starter regions so far.
the issue with trying to have fun with irregular binges is that you barely have enough pulls for the good forgiving gacha rolls
idk, genshin-idiots pretend that repeated exploration does not bother?
Genshin Impact's repetitiveness also catches up really quickly if you aren't playing it completely casually _because_ it's such a vapid and shallow open world that is deliberately designed to be tedious so that way you spend more time playing the game (which is "good for the company's numbers"). But Genshin Impact provides more than Honkai Star Rail does as an overall experience from what I can tell despite its many issues since you have larger areas to experience stories in as well as more content, not to mention that Genshin Impact actually looks good whereas Star Rail does not (seriously, the art designers had a blueprint for a great looking game with Genshin Impact and they couldn't even manage to make the character models look as good as Genshin's, never mind the horrendous HUD/UI elements of the game).
oh come on, not every game has to have an open world. This is such a weird way of thinking
God this channel is criminally underrated.
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Dude that what i was talking about
my favourite fact about one of star rail's characters is the funny ARG damage woman Quinque.
just her whole character, she is the average walmart employee with her work mentality and YET she is minted bacause she works one of the most profitable jobs in loufu.
I adore this channel so much please make more ❤❤
I don't get how this can get so little views, I mean it's a great analysis with top tier memes sprinkled in. I will definitely watch more of this content in the future.
I wasn't expecting such a high quality video from a less than 2k subs channel. Good job!
Bro you just keep on dropping bangers after bangers hope this is one is also goated like the others❤
Just wanted to say awesome channel bruh can't believe i just knew of it ❤
Finally a video after vermillions years of waiting❗❗
Thank you for tell me about the side quest of Cyrille, The Fool(I finished long time agi). I just went back to the museum just to alter the discription of the painting.
Very nice touch indeed.
i just sat though all of your content and i need more. how?? do you only have 1k subs??? this is criminal, i'm calling the cops.
you made my day
20:04
Oh yes... simulated universe and hunt ... my favorite combo.
Great video with balanced and reasonable arguments, and just the right amount of humor
Well done. New subscriber here
Yes a new video!
Even my mom is done with Natasha the underworld doctor feeling sick? ad lmao, she started playing thinking that she could beat Natasha in the game... She got very dissapointed lmao
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Would you consider doing a video on Honkai Impact 3rd?
It’s still a gacha game, but there’s lots more waifus and HSR adapted a lot of mechanics from both HI3rd and Genshin Impact.
I'm considering it, but I'm unsure I have quite enough time right now - I'm not at a point where I can consider TH-cam as my job (yet!), so I'm hammering out video projects in my spare time. It's definitely on my radar, at least.
@@CDVermilion No worries! I love your videos so far, so I’m willing to wait.
"I to watch the overly sarcastic productions or Jerny to the west" Respect 100
I hope the Genshin team takes note of all the QoL and endgame stuff that's working so well in _HSR_ , and decides to use it there was well. _Genshin_ could be so much better if only RNG didn't determine so much, and you didn't feel so limiting. These days I just focus on dailies and story, when I want to record it. I've been ignoring Spiral Abyss entirely because it seems like such a pain to go through it.
As much as _HSR_ has improved over _Genshin_ , and I am thankful that the Honkai team is handling it, I hope they implement more systems and generosity from _Hi3_ . In particular they could use the shops where you can spend in-game currency on fragments for A-rank Support battlesuits to unlock them or rank them up, as well as _HI3_ periodically giving costumes, S-rank battlesuits, and gear as event rewards. _HSR_ 's gacha is a bit improved, especially the lightcone banner, but still pretty far from not having a 50/50 to lose for characters, and being able to gacha a full gear set (although doing gacha for 6 relics and the weapon would take so many resources, I don't think they could do it for a full set. It's much more manageable when the full set is just 3 pieces). And you have consumables that let you reroll substats. We _need_ that in _Genshin_ .
they are. commissions are changing to be more like HSR's so essentially HSR is Genshin's testing ground for QoL
@@Ivy-jq6di Funny cause most of HSR players I've seen comment are saying that Genshin is the testing ground for events. They make really bad events in Genshin, then check the feedback, then implement similar events in HSR but make them 10 times better and in the case of the big events, make them permanent so new players can enjoy them no matter when they start.
So yeah, lots can be said on both sides but until the resin issue is really changed, I don't see why Genshin devs would change anything. Would you change anything if you kept slapping your friend in the face and he kept giving you hundreds or thousands of dollars per month regardless and asks you for another slap ?
HSR is much more RNG, since player skill matters very little in combat in the end.
You can just have bad rolls causing enemy to only target one character and it dies, with nothing you can do about it. Can mitigate it somewhat by spending money.
@@jepeman They meant it I'm pretty sure RNG as in the gear and how I believe Genshin's weapon banner for example is a lot less forgiving than HSR's. In Genshin if I got it right you can lose 2 times on getting the weapon you want and only on the third try is it guaranteed. In HSR if you lose the next one is guaranteed.
Now about the part of needing little skill to play HSR. You haven't played many turn based games I presume ? I see it as this. In Genshin you pretty much mash buttons until everything is dead, rinse and repeat. Nothing wrong with that play style at all. I like to turn my brain off and just mash buttons myself. No brain power needed to do that.
In HSR, it's a bit like chess with an RNG factor. You have to calculate your skill point usage, manage your HP all the while killing what's trying to kill you while keeping an eye on who is up next and what's the next course of action to take so you can minimize the damage you take and maximize the damage output. Some HSR players will even take up to one minute to decide if they should skill or basic attack depending on the turn order and how it affects the rest of the fight. But hey, to each his own.
@@Kazeshini11 HSR is more like checkers with RNG.
Gacha wise, HSR is better, though I would argue HSR weapons/LCs are more important than in GI and the artifact farming is not much better/worse in HSR with 0 off pieces. Not to mention the gacha power creep in HSR.
Sure, if you use certain meta teams in GI (whale or long time player), you can button smash. Difference is, you don't need healers or shields to complete Spiral Abyss. Can you do the same in HSR MoC?
I do enjoy turn based games, like XCOM, Pathfinder Kingmaker & WotR, Baldur's Gate 3, Divinity Original Sin 1 & 2, Wasteland. In those games, you actually have tactical options to avoid being RNG targeted to death.
lmao love this channel
And it's just getting started.
okay i agree that the loufu arc was dissapointing but a lot of the things you say are unexplained or show up out of nowhere really isnt like that. dan heng's powerup was foreshadowed since the belobog quest, the mara had been explained, just not outright said word for word what it was, we find out jing yuan is still alive although hurt, bailu's story continues in dan heng's companion quest together with (obviously) more dan heng lore and we have A LOT of talking abt the high elders of the vydhyadara and their responsibilities. still really liked the video and didnt really like the loufu quests but it wasnt THAT bad
I'm laughing so hard and it's not even half of the video. Damn, you're good
Babe wake up new Vermillion video is gonna drop
very funny and informative video. SUBBED!
Your channel is awesome bro
Simply love the video ok 😂
The intro sequence is gold.
great video, love what you had to say and how you broke it up. edits were very nice.
Another good one!
God tier video
I love this video, it captures all of the things I feel about the game too
Honestly, I agree with the Luofu part, it would have been really great if the main story was up to the mark with all the lore it has, but maybe it was just a prologue and an introduction to the Luofu characters. I also agree with Luofu map blending together... But i dont really seem to mind it as much, but well to be fair I haven't completed my Luofu exploration anyway so idk yet.
Great video, once again! I'll definitely sub!
NEW VERMILION VIDEO LETS GO
7:32 please, someone make a wildfire status from this
is there a part 2 of this? since the game won TGA and is doing so good.
“and his emotional support airhead” describes March so well
Good video btw 👍
6:23 so accurate
In my opinion it would be nice if Luofu was later in the story than this early. Belobog was such a good place and story, the spaceship was nice and easy enough and the story was great to start with.
glad i'm not the only one that gets makima vibes from kafka
I still think that March might be the Tsaritsa expy.
The worst part of this game is that there are only four slots for the four relics. no extra slot for error.
Great video! I really love HSR, probably even more so than Genshin. The QoL improvements are great, the story and the characters are awesome, and the game is packed with amazing artwork and soundtrack. Really, the only problem is that this is gacha agian... I subscribed, looking forward to your other game recommendations (hopefully anime-style and for the PC!).
Also, one of the biggest plus points is the writing to me, every side quest I've played has been very emotional to say the least, or thought provoking in some way.
Heck one of the side quest i dismissed for being boring at the start, brought me in again with the ending (the one with a guy called Cong who falls in love with the same woman every reincarnation)...
Hmmm interesting, Ive seen that you could choose to stay in the station and get that "ending" but when I saw it it didnt mention it was a bad ending for the Express Crew AND Stellaron Hunters. Even more interesting is the fact of a vid I watched a few hours ago suggesting that the "cracking" anymation before fights was meaning that due to our presence reality was being rewritten.
Alrighty then, even though I often rewatch your ToF "Worst Game I Can't Stop Playing" video (grats on Asmon reaction video btw), I liked and subscribed just now, on the promise at 21:21. Ya better deliver! Gonna hold you to that statement of yours ;) More seriously though, gacha gaming is exhausting and I'd really love some solid anime-themed game recommendations at this point that didn't involve P2W mechanics or RNG gacha bs. Seriously. Looking forward to them! Bell notification activated! You're just the third I've done that for, out of hundreds of subs btw, no presh ;)
Dan Heng foreshadowing was all the rumours outside the game lol
Neatly didn't mention Samudrartha so that players can have a badass musical moment first hand
They didn't earn that one like they did with Wildfire.
gurl you have no idea how excited I was to be able to finally play it in the Parlor Car
Oh yeah, I was so invested in Yukong story and I just completely forgot that it was basicay just Chinese Top gun like you said lmao 😂😂😂
While you don't have to play or be familiar with _Honkai Impact 3rd_ to play, understand, or appreciate _Honkai: Star Rail_ , I have to say that it does help a great deal. Not only do you appreciate the character expies more (despite most of them being from the previous game, _GunGirlZ_ ), but _HI3_ does a lot of exploration into the cosmology of the universe / multiverse via theoretical exploration of the Imaginary Tree and the Sea of Quanta. That is, if you can get your head around the dialogue in order to understand it.
The cosmology isn't expressed with 100% consistency across Mihoyo's games, and that's because they have Unreliable Narrator: We learn about things as characters in the games learn about them, so our understanding of how things work also changes when the characters reveal something new. Like how we all first thought that the Honkai was a purely destructive force, then thought of them as a corrective force, and more recently as a force that seeks to bring humanity closer to the Imaginary, but doesn't know how beyond destruction. These understandings also affect how we understand how stellar travel works, since without that, there's no way to understand how special and powerful the Trailblaze is, allowing our crew to visit other worlds. The same can be said of Herta, of course, as she has collected a windglider from _Genshin_ , a house of cards from _Tears of Themis_ , and the tip shards from _HI3_ Murata Himeko's _Godslayer: Surtur_ greatsword, and put them all on display in her space station. There's a special interaction with the shards if you're using Himeko at the time.
Captains (players of _HI3_ ) have also been able to appreciate similarities that pop up in _HSR_ since the beginning. Like how Stellarons behave _very_ similarly to the voice of the Honkai by tempting humans to destroy each other, creating what looks like the Herrschers (rulers over concepts), so for example, in the final battle for the Belabog arc, Cocolia rsembles the Herrscher of Ice, and the giant spiked ball she drops is a Herrscher of Rimestar attack. Conceptually, having the Stellarons resemble the Honkai makes sense, since they can travel to different worlds on the Imaginary Tree and in the Sea of Quanta. _Genshin_ has something similar, most notable in the prequel manga with Collei, as the fragments of old gods, and they notably speak the same way the Will of Honkai does in _HI3_ 's prequel manga series.
In the end, what _HSR_ shows us is that the Honkai can and do manifest differently in a different world. They give us Honkai Beasts, Zombies, and Herrschers in _Hi3_ and _GGZ_ , Stellaron and the Void Legion in _HSR_ , and they'll probably have other forms in upcoming games that live on the Imaginary Tree.
There's also an interesting question about how Emanators and Aeons scale with other Honkaiverse powers. For the record, there's no question currently that _GGZ_ has the most powerful characters, such as Death herself, who created the Imaginary Tree from the corpse of Zeus. Even the Outer Gods from that game easily far outstrip the most powerful Herrschers from _HI3_ , being an entirely different order of being. On the other end of the scale, _Genshin_ 's Archons seem to be the weakest, since they can't even measure up to the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles, who ended up wiping Khaenri'ah out pretty much single-handedly, and she's based on Herrscher of the Void / God Kiana. I've seen it said that Emanators are roughly on Herrschers' level, and that means that Aeons, despite coming from mortals (sometimes even made by them), and being mortal themselves, are more powerful than Herrschers, and perhaps even more powerful than the Coccoon of Finality that can create Herrschers. That means that _HSR_ already has beings that are considered to be lesser in power than those of _GGZ_ , but greater than those in _HI3_ . I was already scared of what would happen due to powerscaling because of how good the 5-star characters have been so far.
What is the music you use in the end credits?
"Wildfire" from the Honkai Star Rail OST
Honestly many of your issues are due to not reading the lore or paying attention. However I realize me included that many just don't and it's not realistic to expect it so
If crucial details required to appreciate the main story aren't presented within the main story, then the story is poorly written. Destiny 2 also has this problem - you shouldn't have to hunt down item descriptions to understand key plot points.
I don't need to read any lore to understand what's happening in Fontaine in Genshin. I did the world quests to understand more about the prophecy which the main story focuses on which is good writing.
@@CDVermilion Yeah I agree, due to how massive the lore is, they exposed an extremely small amount of it in the main story.
@@Ivy-jq6di exactly! There are many, MANY issues I have with Genshin's writing, but one thing is certain: the main quests and the deeper lore, while remaining interconnected, are their own separate things and you can comfortably follow the main story without knowing every single bit of lore about idk the Four Shades, or Rene, or Deshret etc.
I disagree about the museum event being a recycled genshin event. It's a recycled yakuza mini game and so much better than any event Genshin has ever made in the last 3 years
Genshin literally had the same resource management in a past event before HSR's release with less bs fetch quests
@@Ivy-jq6di ye ik I played the genshin version of it and it was a dumbed down version of what we got in hsr
Lmao not him showing neptunia as the bad example
13:08 hill areas lea true dude
21:09 most deepfried spin I've ever heard
Gotta say, all of the complaints about the Luofu, aside from pacing (which is entirely subjective but that's fine), basically boil down to "I didn't pay attention to the subtleties of the story and therefore got blindsided". The story literally foreshadowed every single beat of the entire arc from the minute you set foot on the Luofu. Tingyun being what she was, Dan Heng being what he was, the nature of mara and the long-life species, all of it was there. Really wish people would pay attention to what's going on before complaining about things which were completely signposted. When the primary complaint about Genshin's story is that they go into massive amounts of exposition to explain everything, and then the complaint in the Luofu is that they avoided making the exact same mistake again, by subtly incorporating elements into the narrative, it simultaneously tickles me and makes me cringe myself to death when people completely fail to understand the Luofu plot and prove that Genshin maybe wasn't being patronising needlessly after all.
Mind sharing some examples with the class?
@@CDVermilionyou could watch other hsr content creators talking about this though, and everything is interconnected. Your opinion is kinda trash though im sorry.
@@ableoswimmingpondnah, the Luofu was genuinely really underwhelming and undercooked and a lot of the actual meat happened in the middle while the beginning and end of the quests were really bland and felt like nothing in particular happened.
On top of that they legitimately threw away multiple characters for the sake of shock value: after taking a bunch of time to establish Dan shu and then IMMEDIATELY turn her into a two-bit villain who died with entirely zero fanfare, and Tingyun was such a completely underused character who you only actually interact with for probably 15-20 minutes of the quest, says something suspicious over a text, and is then almost completely irrelevant to the entire rest of the quest until she's used as a cheap death to convince people that the story is amazing just because they killed someone (which they still haven't actually 100% confirmed yet anyway...).
Tingyun being a random lord ravager with no hint toward it except a short text conversation is mid af. They might as well consider her dead since you never meet the real Tingyun but the writers are too cowardly to do that so they hammer it in that she's MISSING despite the funeral ceremony for her.
nah sorry, there is a difference between putting additional lore into optional dialogue, items etc. and not explaining the basic premises of your story in the main quest. And even if you just assume most players are dumb and "didn't get" it, it still just doesn't work thematically. The ENTIRE shtick of Luofu is about the conflict between Abundance and Hunt, it's what its history is, it's what its current issues are about, it's what affected the main characters in the past, and it's what we spend most of the story exploring... and then we get a random Destruction minion as the main villain? I'm sorry what? How does it tie to anything or anyone thematically? That's right, it doesn't. That's why it feels so shallow and underwhelming.
Maybe if you play the same experience.
You should play Limbus Company.
It free to play and had the same experience as Honkai Star Rail.
Mushroom!
bro u need to upload more often
while im not sure about phantylia showing up, dan heng absolutely did have foreshadowing leading up to his reveal even from the release of the game
i also just think its way too early to deliver any thoughts on this game yet because were barely into it, and i do agree that belobog was amazing but i also think it sets standards extremely high for luofo
SONIC
SONIC HOW MANY TRASH CANS THERE ARE IN BELOBOG SONIC
2:12 SW said she is not responsible for the antimatter legion getting in the space station.
People died here so player can hate her if you say she is responsible, but she did nothing with the antimatter legion, they just arrived in the time Elio's predicted, so it was an opportunity for them to get the stellaron.
SW explicitly states that the number of forces that are present on the station are the most she could attract without causing the entire Legion to show up.
"Kafka: When did the Antimatter Legion become so weak?
??? (later revealed to be Silver Wolf): I could only attract this much. Did you really want the entire Legion to come here?"
I agree with how the luofu started...as we got it in 3 parts. It's design for the first half is pretty bad, but some locations make sense in how they are portrayed....others not so much. Experiencing the luofu closing quest is like a weight of my shoulders, as we get to finally go somewhere new (hopefully) in 1.5.
The characters personal goals and the transformations have all been explained and hinted at. Except Luocha....I still need concrete answers! And if they're still things you wish to learn more about them or the universe, you got the info tab on characters and the Data Bank....and they still leave questions for Luocha....
The relic system is much more refined in Star Rail than genshin...still can't wrap my head around it sometimes, 5 pieces and you can get 2...2 (or a 4) sets and a 1....but the one has to be headgear, and they are all grinded from bosses that take forever to kill and if you don't get the piece oh well...leave and come back! Though Star Rail is easy as you need a 4 set (or 2...2 sets) from Cavern of Corrosion (repeatable then and there as long as you got energy) then a separate 2 set from the Sim Verse (which yes you need to reset if you die, but you can get 4 rolls in total. And fighting the echo of war can get you gear pieces, too. And no matter the situation, you can recycle to Legendary Gear (10 pieces) into a piece you might need (ANY PIECE), though stats can still be mostly random. And grinding max level gear locations net you 2 to 3 legendary pieces per run (Sim verse total is 8 pieces).
At the end of the day, it's easier to get gear you want or need is easier in HSR than GI.
9:29 is that a murder drones reference to uzi's Jc Jenson in spAaAAaaAce
No, it's a reference to the "Pigs in Space" recurring sketch on The Muppet Show - which in turn is broadly parodying old sci-fi space operas like Lost in Space, Star Trek, etc. It's likely murder drones is referencing the same thing.
idk, isn't the Belobog story almost bizarrely simple? Like they barely reveal the immaterial evildoer behind the conflict, which would work in their favour if it werent for how little the proceeding events either make sense, nor veer away from just being a corrupt head of state who you then beat with a completely happenstance and underserved power up when they do. Ultimately what is the substance, maybe it's slated for an eventual pay off when you finally find out what a Stellaron actually is, but having played Genshin I not only doubt it I would wager my entire networth against it.
Vermillion? Neol Vermillion???!
music name on part 7?
Tower of Fantasy: Mirroria Sector C Theme
aight! Thank you!@@CDVermilion
You are not getting striked for using some music from their game??
Shampoo = Sketchiest Man Alive 🤣🤣🤣
100% agree that the Loufu story was poorly implemented. It felt more like Genshin's pre-Sumeru archon quests (great hype moments broken up with poorly paced mediocre storytelling).
I did want to mention that the per-patch free gacha currency between Genshin and HSR is actually very similar. HSR just hands most of it to you where as in Genshin you have to look for it by exploring the world space.
Great video! Keep up the good work!
I gave up on Star Rail part way into the Chinese-Cloud-City questline. Loved the characters, art, environments, story, music, and humor, but the combat drove me absolutely mad.
For one, difficult fights would really screw you over if you did not bring the correct counter into the fight (often with no way of knowing, such as for a new boss). Did not bring the correct element to break? Get ready to spend the next 10 minutes slogging through the fight... Mobs at least showed you what elements the enemies were.
But worst of all was the constant, obnoxious, un-skippable dialogue, especially in the longer fights
"WATCH THIS AWESOME MOVE"
"RULES ARE MEANT TO BE BROKEN"
"TIME TO TWIRL"
"WATCH THIS AWESOME MOVE"
"O STARS, GIVE THESE TRAILBLAZERS YOUR BLESSING"
"TIME TO TWIRL"
"RULES ARE MEANT TO BE BROKEN"
"WATCH THIS AWESOME MOVE"
"IN CASE YOU WERE NOT AWARE, IT IS NOW TIME TO MO**ER**CKING TWIRL"
over and over and over, with no variation or option to turn it off. I found myself muting the game during combat just to be able to tolerate it, which is a bad sign. I know I could switch to JP or CN voices, but I like being able to understand them in the story.
Also got burned really bad on the gacha, which did not help... Worst monetization system ever.
There’s a x2 speed
There's also Autoplay if you don't want to deal with monsters, although that defeats the purpose of playing you can do other things while doing that.
Thanks for the replies. These voice lines were taken from x2 speed, it does not stop the VAs from triggering every time. Even on x2 they are still longer than the Genshin ults and have no variation in dialogue.
Tried autoplay, was great for the ley-lines (or whatever they are called in Star Rail) but need to take back control for the story or bosses or anything that needs attention.
While rewards are more plenty in comparison to Genshin, I think it is important to mention that due to the turn-based combat, they can pump out more characters per patch. With consistent 2 new 5stars every patch, even with increased rewards, it is still less resources available per character than in Genshin. And so far, except maybe Jing Yuan, every 5star has been a gamechanger and abyss carry, so it's not like in genshin, where you can cheese almost everything with some mostly 1.0 4star team.
Coming from Honkai Impact to Honkai Star Rail will make it feel really difficult to get new characters since in Honkai Impact, there is no 50:50, they alternate between a patch with a free new permanently farmable 4star you can obtain from an event and a patch with a new 5star, so you always have 2 patches worth of time to save for a new 5star. And 1-2 years old 5stars will first become paid battle pass bonuses, then after around 3 years you'll find them permanently farmable for free. The whole game economy is just so much player-friendly than what Star Rail does. Not gonna lie, I was a little sad when I saw that they oriented so much on Genshins gacha system and it's even less resources per character available. But I guess Genshin just worked way too well for them to not use that system as their base.
This was a great review.
While i don't agree with all your points i do think u got the right of it for the most part and thats what matters most.
Your vtuber model reminds me of the blond puppet from lazy town 😭
I also felt like Belobog had better character motivations than the Laoufu but I think both had amazing ending battles that hyped me up super well. I had already liked Jin Yuan and loved dan hengs characters so I enjoyed the battle, but I know jin Yuan barely interacted with the characters outside of telling them what to do. The side characters bemoaning their jobs and the sanctus medicus part dragged on too much imo and I didn't like how many of the NPCs took center stage for world building.
could've been a 13 minute video if you didn't explain the basic game mechanics after 15 minutes and a long intro.
what I liked most about this - it was full of memes and funny and true.
bro expected a game review to not cover gameplay 💀💀💀
I honestly didn’t realize Hook was a playable character until I checked my character list and realized that I got her at some point, so I usually call her “The Playable NPC™️”
Also I like how we all just agree that Svarog is just V1 but jacked
And I also wish that we got more of an explanation to why immortality is bad other than the fact that the local domestic terrorists are immortal
overpopulation iirc
Probably because to achieve immortality, you're kinda sacrificing your free will and basically being mara-strucked, which yes you live forever, but can you really call it living? I could understand if it's taboo. Like imagine if you can live forever, but at a cost of losing your free will and getting connected to a hivemind or something. Not to mention mara-struck victims are usually aggressive and mostly act as monsters. Most mara-struck are only left with strong emotions (basically acting only on instincts), although there are a few exceptions, where the mara-struck retains their will (although I have no idea how much they retain or are they corrupted in any other way). That's how I understand it anyways.
Fu Xuan mentions how being mara-struck A.K.A immortality relates to memories (i can't remember the specifics tho), which can only happens to long life species (which is why Fu Xuan asked the Express gang to disable the alchemy pot or whatever it was called, since we short life species are not effected by it). Hence why they treat immortality as taboo because to them, immortality = mara-struck = losing your free will/ losing control of yourself.
Fun fact, Blade is also mara-struck, but he manages to retain consciousness only due to Kafka, because she regularly wipes his memories using her ability (mostly that pertains memories that has strong emotions to prevent mara from taking hold)
I might be wrong on some things as I might have missed new lore or missed out on quests, and stuff, but that's what I understood from it anyways.
It did explain, it talked about the lack of resources since nobody is dying and people not having anything to do after living for so long
@@rh_nt when you’re a spacefaring civilization, I don’t think resource management matters much. Just go to a random planet and commence the imperialism.
@@frostyvoid827 so like swarm disaster but conscientiously
Another comment for the algorithm gods (aeons?). The little details really do improve the game experience. The first time I got a praise of high morals, or when I found out you could just skip Kafka's entire story quest (which I wish I did but alas), I was so impressed, especially when contrasted with Genshin and its ten billion story quests with the exact same tropes.
HSR has the better Gacha, weapon/light cone banner is way more generous than Genshins, having a 75/25 rate of giving the lightcone you want. Also the standard 5 star LCs don't suck like most of the Genshin standard weapons. It is also more generous, but in Genshin you get a lot of gems through exploration, that you don't in HSR.
I dislike relics compared to artifacts though. You have no "off piece", needing 6 "perfect" drops to Genshins 4 and the reroll mechanic is 10/1 compared to Genshins 3/1. Having the chance to get about 3ish guaranteed main stats a version is nice and all, but the substats can still suck lol. So Relics are worse than Artifacts to me
Genshin gives more summons from exploring the map but it's been calculated and confirmed that Star Rail gives more summons overall.
@@thegamerfe8751 hard to beat the 10 free passes a version XD
I wouldn't really say the EN localizaiton "adds" memes as the original CN script is extremely memey in itself with tones of cultural references to things such as Weibo, which is their equlivant of Twitter, and Alibaba/Aliexpress.
But since memes, especially cultural memes cannot ever be translated 1:1, EN script has to add its own brand of memes.
For example, in the Luka companion mission, one of the lines Trailblazer can say regarding Luka is "Bro is just being a bit of a weeb."
Now in the CN scipt, Trailblazer calls Luka the equlivant of a a Chunibyou, or "eighth grader syndrome". In English, we don't really have a (slang) term for this kind of thing so it's a hard thing to translate without sounding like a computer program. But in Chinese, the term ingame is used in a slightly more memey way, so while "weeb" is technically the wrong word to use, I still think it managed to keep the tone of the scene. But if they wanted to be "accurate", then I feel the term "wannabe" also fits, and makes some sense due to Luka's actions during his quest.
Dood asking if a Chinese culture never invented birth control. Dood they like to reproduce a lot, we talk a lot about that in my home country Peru (When I used to live there). They have like 6 or 7 kids per familly, so I can tell you that this is canonically accurate based on real life LMAO.
Oh, you mean the same country that currently has a birth rate of 1.28 kids per mother? The one that is on the brink of a population crisis? That China?
Never mind the idea that a fictional civilization that's heavily inspired by a culture needing to be a 1:1 mirror of the real life version.
I knew it was a Gacha game made by Hoyoverse, and that's all I knew before I played it. And honestly, I might like it more than Genshin.
comment for algorithm
"You're telling me this advanced civilization full of immortals never invented birth control?" They all wanted grandchildren. Or they're all Republicans, or whatever the Chinese equivalent would be.
chinese top gun 💀💀💀
While i do like the music, the fact that theres only one track per area that repeats constantly gets a little annoying for me. I think the songs are good but after hearing them so many times Im just tired of them. Genshin gives a little more variety + breaks where no music plays.
imbibe - drink
just me or does your avatar look like a xenoblade character
So long
Luofu was fun and good especially with the companion quests that were added in 1.3 and Jing Yuan is one of my favourite characters but Belobog is so far the best part of the story and the Cocolia boss fight is such an amazing part of the story. The music, the story, the battle, the cutscenes, everything was amazing. I am probably gonna make an alt just to experience the whole thing again.
I honestly don't think it deserves the hate it's getting. Yeah sure, the Luofu story isn't amazing but it's not as bad as people are saying.
@@hondsdollekat agreed. It has some cool characters. It’s quite lacking in emotional attachment but it has quite the good cast. Jing Yuan, Fu Xuan, Kafka, Blade, Qingque, etc…
Me when I’m the 1k viewer 💪😼
Around 13:00 of the video expressed exactly the problem of this xianzhou chapter of the game, I literally quit the game after this released a while, I still remember how frustrating I was when trying to get to the other side of a door(through the maze) and how the xianzhou characters were much randomly introduced as they had,( that 4 star gamble game girl and the 77 2nd) made my mind completely offline to its map exploration and passion to see the story. A lot of people around me is playing this, and I actually get it, it has cool shit and funny stuff within the settings and story, and also, the art style/character design, it’s like coriander, if u like it u really do, if u don’t u hate it.(I can’t really describe what it was). Anyways, these are just personal opinions that might be exclusive, but I guess this game, is fun for experiencing rather than actually playing. All the functions and designs for gameplay is, to me, too simplified, and u don’t really NEED to play it with full attention, well that’s what happens to a turn-based game that also has auto battle, now I could be wrong since there are many updates, but as a person who plays Genshin since the first day, this game is too much like its old brother on the initial impression, regardless to its cool ass animation(ult)and more mature characters and story, (the only music I love and able to recall it’s the wildfire of the first finale boss fight) there is nothing for but a start-all-over of Genshin impact SciFic turn-based(which it’s boring to me) version. Indeed starrail is good for its convenient, fast-paced, cool looking animations, perfect for u to play on a transportation to work, or slacking off for a while on work. But I just find it unnecessary to play another version of the same looking and building game😂
Oh and, I also think without the paimon Genshin would be a better game
2:36 Then you played bad JRPG's actually
The "cutting up" of the Luofu arc was absolutely annoying. They did their best with how much they cut it up, but it was so bad. Sure, they may have deliberately done that because they found out how fast people gobbled up the first "chapter" of the game, but man did it not make everything just disconnected because of how long each "piece" was released. The story itself was fine, it was far darker and much more political, deep, and foreboding, but there isn't any sort of catharsis (yet) to be found anywhere.
They need to fix this problem. I know the way HSR is designed is fundamentally flawed if paired up with Hoyo's "Theme Park" type of content loop, but they'll need to fix it if they are really intending to inflate the engagement more.
But hey, it's like in the Top 5 most grossing gacha gemus (atleast in the iOS front), so who am I kidding?
dude, i LOVE the loufu's story so far. the connection between long-life species and mara wasnt EXPLICITLY stated for a good portion of the currently released story, but my autistic pattern recognition spotted that shit from a mile away. also there DEFINITELY was foreshadowing for dan heng. march was making jokes about his "secret strength" in BELOBOG. not to mention blade's "of five, three must pay the price" thing. there's so much foreshadowing of dan hengs whole deal and all of the high cloud quintet's deals. we just havent seen the whole story pan out because the loufu's story isnt DONE yet.
and like, i understand why the story left off on that cliffhanger. it's because this game is constantly mid-development. that's like. the whole point. the whole allure. that feeling of "oh my god a new update is out! i gotta see what happens next!" that you get when it updates. like, you wouldnt shame an author of a manga for not writing the whole damn story in one volume, right? i get that its not everyones cup of tea to have a game where the story comes in bits and pieces, but its not "bad writing" if you werent paying attention.
this isnt me trying to be mean to you or something. i just felt like your grasp of whats going on in the loufu is a little lacking. which is probably because they put important stroy things in character quests and world quests. but they did that in belobog and herta space station and nobody complained. idk im a lore frog so i interact with everything and do all the quests and read all the little scraps of paper in my inventory. so my grasp of the story might be better than most peoples'. but its not a "bad" story. you just have to actively look for the parts of it youre interested in.
God, what is it with Hoyo always forcing you to be always online for their singleplayer games, just because of their monetization model? Why can't they just make it a buy to play game and be done with it? Guess I'll wait until the game story is finished and play it all over a couple of weeks without spending any money just like I plan to do with Genshin.
With Chinese market, they tend to pirate the game and no anti piracy will help so a free to play model was more suitable for Chinese market.
So. Hoyoverse came from china so they have to tap the Chinese market before the international market.
That's how literally every gacha on Earth has worked since the Japanese invented them in the early 2010s. The first ones were only playable in web browsers. Mihoyo don't make single player games because this model makes them more money, and also because it turns out it's a hard sell to investors to say "give us a billion dollars to take seven years to make a game that might not profit". Gacha games also don't end - they just stop, when they stop making money.
@@BlackGateofMordor That's the point. I hate everything they forced into the game to make it a gacha, when it would be way better as a singleplayer game. Like the way the upgrade system works and that you have systems on top of systems competing on which annoys me the most.
That's why I refused to put a single cent into Genshin and stopped playing when I realised that it takes months to get a new character to a usable level because of it. And that's even before taking RNG Artifacts into the equation.
With the exploration and combat it could've been a really great game, if not every character progression system was built upon mobile game mechanics! It's one of the few games I would've considered actually paying 60EUR to buy if it was playable offline, but because they decided to build it all around a slot machine with forced online connection, they got no money from me and never will!
@@skyknight0408 online connection is important for your account to save progression. if genshin an offline game, you'll have to make space triple or more than it already is. the game will too be big for an offline game(mobile game).
For the gacha, just don't pay money on it? If you don't want to get drunk and drive home, just don't drink alcohol and go home🤔 you know when you're home you can finally get drunk, just wait and farm like normal people.
@@longbread There are already games that use more than tripple the space. And no, being offline wouldn't need more space, because the world, the NPCs, the dialouge and the cutscenes are already saved on your device. You'd just have to manually save instead of relying on server based progression and there would be no need for servers or an account at all, so it would save the costs for those things.
It also shouldn't be a mobile game at all but a regular PC game.
And I don't care for the gacha part itself, but all the mechanics that accompany it because it's gacha:
The fact that the enemies scale to your level instead of fighting stronger enemies to level up, the fact that farming every piece of upgrade material is time gated and can only be done on specific days of the week(and it's all the same boring arena), unless you just buy it from the shop and that because of those things, getting a new character to a playable state can take weeks or even months. The daily comissions and resin system that are only there to artifically stretch the game time and lore/character progression that gets put into (missable)time limited events. All of those mechanics make the game less fun. They are the reason I stopped playing.
I never drink or drive and neither would I ever pay for a game that is full of mobile mechanics.
Be honest, the game would be way more fun if it was offline and all content constantly in the game to do whenever you want. I would seriously pay money for an offline game like that, without all of those terrible mechanics that always come with a gacha!
The Loufu story was fine. The main issue... I guess... is that the story rap up rather than being part of the story quest, is the many character stories. I'm not certain how they could have inserted Dan Shu's story line into the story without it feeling out of place. There could have been a way, but what she represents naturally makes her difficult to fit in. She can't really do a lot in the story without revealing her position as the leader of Sanctus Medicus cult. And Bailu's intro seems out of place, but sets up further interaction that fleshes her out well in the story quests. Her quick intro was enough to set things up without another Dan Shu story problem.
I think the arc finished up since this video, so its easier to see what was missed, but it also suffered from trying to establish the villain side through a character that in unable to be added to the action because it removed from the humanizing factor of her character and then they save the reason why she is wrong until after her she is established which is placed near the end. It makes sense why the issue exists... but doesn't exactly change it was executed poorly... though I'm not exactly sure what a good execution of this concept would look like.