Is it possible for you to do a comparison between Jiaoqiu and Pela? I've seen comparisons with him and Guinaifen but none that are directly comparing him with Pela. I'm pulling for him regardless but I just want to see the difference. Also great showcase!
@@ThaoHoang-pb2nq that still not showcasing jiaoqiu effect on acheron imo. Anyone that go with sparkle almost always had e2 acheron already so the better showcase for jiaoqiu vs sparkle are acheron, jiaoqiu, pela, aventurine all e0s1 excluding pela e6s5 vs acheron e2s1 and the rest which is sparkle, aventurine e0s1 and pela e6s5
@@user-zq7vi8lm4z sparkle is still better than 2 nihility ch in e0 acheron, ppl who does tc already said this a million times. Well, this was true until Jiao, who actually makes acheron to perform better
This was a fun watch. Was initially going to skip JQ. But kept hearing mixed things and needed to do more research. I'm def not going for E2 Acheron lmao. So i'll pull for him. Subbed. ty.
There is no comparrison there. Jiaoqiu already match's E2/S1 Sparkle when Acheron is getting at least 15% Nahility buff. But you want to compare him to a E0S0 Sparkle with 0% Nahility buff WHILE Sparkle is also getting diminishing returns by running her with Bronya? Sorry, but that's really silly. There is no comparrison at all here, Jiaoqiu is 3x better in this case. 5x better than Bronya. Bronya goes well to get Acheron stacks, but the lower damage makes it pointless. This is coming from someone who ran Acheron with Bronya until very recently. I got told to stop using Mono quantum and to try my quantum team with Acheron instead of Seele, i did it just for a test around and her damage literally doubled. I now 0 cycle with a sustain in any MoC doing 720k single target damage. My damage with Bronya was literally never going over 400k single target and i needed 2 ults each phase or 4 if the enemy had two health bars. Now i kill them in a single ult easily and i can get 2 ults off in one phase in p2 if i play my cards right allowing me to even take down double health enemies within the first cycle while using a sustain. 0 cycle with Sparkle, 3 cycles with Bronya. It's literally not even close. Use Sparkle and Jiaoqiu.
Although i think i may have gotten the wrong impression here? Did you mean Acheron, Sparkle, Pela/SW vs Acheron Bronya Jiaoqiu? In that case first hits harder second gets many more stacks. Harder normally wins from my tests as long as you can kill them in a single ult. Simply use both Sparkle and Jiaoqiu. You hit harder AND get more stacks.
Insane showcase. Great skills too. I'll definitely get Jiaoqiu for my acheron. I have a question though does trend LC not provide additional stack for acheron if you run him with jiaoqiu?
@@zimbledwarf5639 it's fine for me since i could run gepard LC for aventurine and not having to worry about RNG because of the guaranteed stack for each enemy turn. I'm constantly resetting because of the poor RNG and also some enemies don't attack on their turn like the summoning part or the DOT one which Jiaoqiu would have the advantage.
@@zimbledwarf5639 it doesn't stack but if enemies hit the trend lc user on their extra action it still triggers the passive. wtf with "since a 4 star LC can provide a chunk of what he provides" it does giving the stack but its still rng since enemies could missed their hit on the wearer, and it only give stack(and tiny burn dmg) but no vurnerability and ult dmg bonus that jq offers LOL people just want to bring down jq with this cheap excuses is funny af.
It does provide additional stack if the enemy has extra action. But personaly, i prefer using E0S1 aventurine with JQ because aven will also provide stack with his follow up attack and JQ also consistenly provide stack per action on enemy
@@taru5156 agree with this. Sure trend LC is a great alternative but it's not a guaranteed thing. Jiaoqiu + Aventurine with his S1 is still the best choice for maximum debuff application.
@@zimbledwarf5639Trend is less consistent than Jiaoqiu stack generation, because it requires the wearer to be attacked. FTB requires constant SP use for Aggro, Gepard has a ~70% chance to be targeted, neither Aventurine or Fu Xuan have strong aggro. It can also still stop working if the enemy doesn't attack you (like the new DoT enemy). Another thing to consider is that all the ideal Trend users provide nearly nothing in terms of offensive contribution by themselves.
The point of the video is seeing how it works out at E0 because Acheron's best team at E0 was Acheron, Pela, Preservation with trend, and Sparkle. At E0 Jiaoqiu is better for Acheron than Sparkle, at E2 you want to run both of them in one team.
@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou At E0, it wasn't her best team. For 1-3 targets, it was Acheron, Pela, SW and sustain. For 5 targets, taking off SW and putting Sparkle was better.
@@TheGintama86 its for the buff. Also to get acheron more turn. E2 acheron using her skill generate 3 stack mean faster ult. Depends on team comp, acheron team could be heavy on heavier side of skill usage.
@@astray2084 if you have tutorial or pearls I don't think you need it, more so with pearls , other lightcones also work like the sparkle one from the moc shop (tricks something,I don't remember), or eyes of the prey, although though are more for his personal damage.
@@tardwrangler1019 if you mean to use trend with Jiaoqiu, then it's better to not use it, cuz it would only work in very specific situations (the enemy having a second attack that doesn't count as taking a turn AND attacking the preservation unit), since Acheron only gets 1 stack from every action that inflicts a debuff (aside from her skill obviously), Jiaoqiu's debuff and trend don't stack, it's better to use another lightcone on your preservation.
Много кто так играет. Им не нравится Пела/Гуй, нет Волка/ЧЛ. Я иногда сама по приколу ставлю с Э0 Ахерон Зарянку, и команда норм все проходит. Аргенти за три цикла, например. Правда, я после этого не хожу утверждать, что лис нинужон и моя команда имба, а вот есть те, кто так говорят. И из-за думпостинга лиса таких развелось чёт дофига и больше.
Changed to a previous MoC because someone was complaining that Argenti being fast + his spawns favors Jiaoqiu a lot
Great showcase. Highly appreciated.
Is it possible for you to do a comparison between Jiaoqiu and Pela? I've seen comparisons with him and Guinaifen but none that are directly comparing him with Pela. I'm pulling for him regardless but I just want to see the difference. Also great showcase!
@@cryophoenix6114 he is better than pela, at most pela stacks 3-4 in the ideal scenario with her ult up and fast spd, JQ does that normally
Jiaoqiu situation feels a lot like FX and Ave, people said FX was better but look who's in T0 now 😂
Damn E0JQ as good as E2Sparkle for acheron team
im not sure putting sparkle at e0 acheron is a good idea. youre not maximizing acheron kit
@@user-zq7vi8lm4z well sparkle e2 is supposed to be mega broken regardless
@@ThaoHoang-pb2nq that still not showcasing jiaoqiu effect on acheron imo. Anyone that go with sparkle almost always had e2 acheron already so the better showcase for jiaoqiu vs sparkle are acheron, jiaoqiu, pela, aventurine all e0s1 excluding pela e6s5 vs acheron e2s1 and the rest which is sparkle, aventurine e0s1 and pela e6s5
@@user-zq7vi8lm4z sparkle is still better than 2 nihility ch in e0 acheron, ppl who does tc already said this a million times.
Well, this was true until Jiao, who actually makes acheron to perform better
@@eddyalt_is that E0 sparkle with E0 acheron?
This was a fun watch. Was initially going to skip JQ. But kept hearing mixed things and needed to do more research. I'm def not going for E2 Acheron lmao. So i'll pull for him. Subbed. ty.
I'd like to see E0S0 Jiaoqiu vs E0S0 Sparkle, both in a E2S1 Acheron team (Bronya used ini Jiaoqiu team)
Same. Ill be pulling for both sparkle and JQ for my E2 Acheron. The ultimate brute force team
May your pulls be blessed by RNJesus @@voxploxx
There is no comparrison there. Jiaoqiu already match's E2/S1 Sparkle when Acheron is getting at least 15% Nahility buff. But you want to compare him to a E0S0 Sparkle with 0% Nahility buff WHILE Sparkle is also getting diminishing returns by running her with Bronya? Sorry, but that's really silly. There is no comparrison at all here, Jiaoqiu is 3x better in this case. 5x better than Bronya. Bronya goes well to get Acheron stacks, but the lower damage makes it pointless. This is coming from someone who ran Acheron with Bronya until very recently. I got told to stop using Mono quantum and to try my quantum team with Acheron instead of Seele, i did it just for a test around and her damage literally doubled. I now 0 cycle with a sustain in any MoC doing 720k single target damage. My damage with Bronya was literally never going over 400k single target and i needed 2 ults each phase or 4 if the enemy had two health bars. Now i kill them in a single ult easily and i can get 2 ults off in one phase in p2 if i play my cards right allowing me to even take down double health enemies within the first cycle while using a sustain. 0 cycle with Sparkle, 3 cycles with Bronya. It's literally not even close. Use Sparkle and Jiaoqiu.
Although i think i may have gotten the wrong impression here? Did you mean Acheron, Sparkle, Pela/SW vs Acheron Bronya Jiaoqiu? In that case first hits harder second gets many more stacks. Harder normally wins from my tests as long as you can kill them in a single ult. Simply use both Sparkle and Jiaoqiu. You hit harder AND get more stacks.
@@Reina5342you seem knowledgeable, so e1s0 jiaoqiu or e0s1 jiaoqiu for a e0s1 acheron team?
Insane showcase. Great skills too. I'll definitely get Jiaoqiu for my acheron. I have a question though does trend LC not provide additional stack for acheron if you run him with jiaoqiu?
@@zimbledwarf5639 it's fine for me since i could run gepard LC for aventurine and not having to worry about RNG because of the guaranteed stack for each enemy turn. I'm constantly resetting because of the poor RNG and also some enemies don't attack on their turn like the summoning part or the DOT one which Jiaoqiu would have the advantage.
@@zimbledwarf5639 it doesn't stack but if enemies hit the trend lc user on their extra action it still triggers the passive. wtf with "since a 4 star LC can provide a chunk of what he provides" it does giving the stack but its still rng since enemies could missed their hit on the wearer, and it only give stack(and tiny burn dmg) but no vurnerability and ult dmg bonus that jq offers LOL people just want to bring down jq with this cheap excuses is funny af.
It does provide additional stack if the enemy has extra action. But personaly, i prefer using E0S1 aventurine with JQ because aven will also provide stack with his follow up attack and JQ also consistenly provide stack per action on enemy
@@taru5156 agree with this. Sure trend LC is a great alternative but it's not a guaranteed thing. Jiaoqiu + Aventurine with his S1 is still the best choice for maximum debuff application.
@@zimbledwarf5639Trend is less consistent than Jiaoqiu stack generation, because it requires the wearer to be attacked. FTB requires constant SP use for Aggro, Gepard has a ~70% chance to be targeted, neither Aventurine or Fu Xuan have strong aggro. It can also still stop working if the enemy doesn't attack you (like the new DoT enemy). Another thing to consider is that all the ideal Trend users provide nearly nothing in terms of offensive contribution by themselves.
hold up the goat is cooking
Oh would you look at that , he cleared in the same cycle as an E2 S1 sparkle lol
I thought he was nerfed into oblivion as the community says
Acheron has the max nihility buff on the Jiaoqiu run compared to sparkle's run. Most people run sparkle if they have E2S1 Acheron.
The point of the video is seeing how it works out at E0 because Acheron's best team at E0 was Acheron, Pela, Preservation with trend, and Sparkle.
At E0 Jiaoqiu is better for Acheron than Sparkle, at E2 you want to run both of them in one team.
@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou At E0, it wasn't her best team. For 1-3 targets, it was Acheron, Pela, SW and sustain. For 5 targets, taking off SW and putting Sparkle was better.
I dont know why but i feel like really laughing rn
Ахерон Е0 + 1 небытие = 115%, а где лис там 2 = 160% , это уже неравный бой.. вам показали что как минимум Е2 Искорка сильнее на 45%
@@NaturmortHSR How is it unequal? Sparkle buffs a lot of DMG% plus CRIT DAMAGE, while Jiaoqiu and Pela can't do it!
E0 acheron with JQ vs E0 acheron with Sparkle pls
as a new player who plan to pull to create a 2nd team, would the following work:
e0s1 acheron
e0s1 jiaoqiu
e0s1 sparkle
e0s1 aventurine
Yes, but you can also use pela instead of sparkle to maximize Acheron’s talent
Can you do same teams but with E2 Acheron and switch Pela for Bronya in the Jiaoqiu team?
can you showcase E2S1 Acheron + E0S1 Sparkle + E0 Jiaoqiu with Sampo LC and Aventurine with Trend LC?
Trend is useless with jiaoqui. U are better off running another preservation lc that provides more def
Could u do both E0S0 with E2S1 Acheron please?
is there any e2s1 aceron with jiaoqiu video?
Team like aceron e2s1 + jiaoqiu + pela + sustain/harmony
why would u want to put 2 nihility in an E2 Acheron team
E2 Acheron | Jiaoqiu | Harmony | Sustain or another Harmony would be better
Lol, e0s1 foxy 🥵, he barely made it through his half. If all i need is just e2 on my e1 sparkle.. obviously i will skip his banner
Can you showcase e2s1 acheron, e2 sparkle, pela, sustain vs e2s1 acheron, e0 sparkle, e0s1 jq, sustain?
both teams are same cost
Mi acheron es e0s1 es mekor tirara por jiaoqiu o sparkle?
now try with e2s1 acheron. most people that use sparkle with acheron use e2s1 acheron anyway
Is she even needed? Doesnt seem likw they struggle to use their skills
@@TheGintama86 its for the buff. Also to get acheron more turn. E2 acheron using her skill generate 3 stack mean faster ult. Depends on team comp, acheron team could be heavy on heavier side of skill usage.
does JQ need his S1 or sign LC?
@@soultanobie not needed, but they are good
@@cornflakebutsilly does herta LC on S5 a good alternative? or what should i use on him since i dont plan to pull for his LC cuz of f2p 😢
@@soultanobie Herta store lc is the best in pure fiction, but in moc you can use tutorial, pearls or eyes of the prey.
@@cornflakebutsilly got it! i have pearls on pela so ill just use prey on him for MoC yeah
hm, do you recommend one to pull for jq’s lc as well?
@@astray2084 if you have tutorial or pearls I don't think you need it, more so with pearls , other lightcones also work like the sparkle one from the moc shop (tricks something,I don't remember), or eyes of the prey, although though are more for his personal damage.
use trend goddamn
@@tardwrangler1019 if you mean to use trend with Jiaoqiu, then it's better to not use it, cuz it would only work in very specific situations (the enemy having a second attack that doesn't count as taking a turn AND attacking the preservation unit), since Acheron only gets 1 stack from every action that inflicts a debuff (aside from her skill obviously), Jiaoqiu's debuff and trend don't stack, it's better to use another lightcone on your preservation.
@@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou i meant with the other team
А зачем ставить 1 небытие в пачку к Ахерон Е0??? Естественно будет одинакого, вы просто очень много теряете же 45% урона.)) Так что это Кликбейт)))
Много кто так играет. Им не нравится Пела/Гуй, нет Волка/ЧЛ. Я иногда сама по приколу ставлю с Э0 Ахерон Зарянку, и команда норм все проходит. Аргенти за три цикла, например. Правда, я после этого не хожу утверждать, что лис нинужон и моя команда имба, а вот есть те, кто так говорят. И из-за думпостинга лиса таких развелось чёт дофига и больше.
Это не кликбейт, если его просят показать какие-то определенные пачки, он их показывает.
its still a skip lol
Nah, nice try, it does hurt when a male character is better than your waifus tho
@haruyanto8085 nah pela still better he's just a side grade nice try
@@christophermauro-barias7451you are one smart individual lol
@@Hhhh22222-wthey hate it when a male character is a good unit , they are nothing but misandrist & coomers ☠️
@@christophermauro-barias7451man i feel bad now 🤣