One thing I noticed with E2 is that once you pair her with Sparkle you can switch out her SPD boots for ATK. Sparkle pushes her turn up anyway for more stacks so it's more value I think
The actual disgusting cracked team is acheron e2s1 with sparkle and bronya. Bronya with acheron spd - 1 for double turns, and sparkle tuned to move right after. With pela/sw and good rng could probably 0 or 1 cycle stuff
Moga if you wanna use fu xuan for Acheron there’s a four star light cone called trend of the universal market that gives a debuff so it makes fu xuan viable
E2 was definitely worth it for me. I didn't spend over $350 and She is literally the best character i have on my account. Her + e6 gallgher is literally insane. I haven't had one of her bursts hit less than 500k since i e2 her even in MoC 12 (highest has been 1507896). And i finally was able to finish lvl 5 gold and gears. Team i've been using is Acheron, pela, sparkle, and gallagher. I haven't tried SW yet though
You could also use a Gepard or Fire Trailblaizer with the Trend of the universal market light cone equiped because it implants burn if hit and both of them raise their chance of being hit instead of Galleghar
@mirwanmuzani6632 it's still good, it's just that gepard and fire TB both increase their own aggro, so enemies are more likely to hit them and thus more likely to procc the effect of the lightcone. Fu xuan is still a better sustained than both of them so its still good to use her even with the lowered synergy. Although, if you're killing the enemies in 1 or 0 cycles anyway, your sustain doesn't really matter. Its better in longer content like Swarm or gold and gears
Definetly worth it, If you can afford it. She is the strongest E2 Dps we have right now. You could argue E2 Dhil is better. But at the end the day both Unit can easily 0 cycle any content
Hello i reaally need help i have e1 acheron with sig and my pity IS high i only have one sustain which IS luocha and idk should i Roll aventurine or acheron e2
@@talellabiadh2623okay so damage wise it's not a big increase Think it like this you kill an enemy with 240k dmg, with e2 u can do 260 but the enemy is still dead in both cases
E2 opens up different comps. I was having trouble surviving MOC due to low speed shitty gear from Rigged Number Generator so I put Gallagher + Acheron + Black Swan + Fire MC. Enough damage and enough sustain
FFS Moga... drop the speed boots and go Att% you have Sparkle to boost Acheron's turn anyway and she will always be after sparkle for the 1st ulti and benefit from the CritDmg boost not a very optimal Dmg test since you wasted so much Att on Acheron with the speed boots :(
As good as it is, I think I'm going to hold off and just pull on more characters and keep her at e0 s1. Only reason being, she can already dominate all of the content we have. If she gets a rerun down the road, and no one in the meantime really tickles my fancy, I might go for it.
I feel the same way, I wanted both Jingliu and Aventurine so I had to settle for just her and her lightcone that I shockingly got two of in one ten pull. When her rerun comes a few months from now I’ll definitely get her e2. But she’s still plenty strong anyway. But thankfully I did get Jingliu and Aventurine so it was worth the eidolon skip this time. 😅
After an awful start, got Acheron E2 after 197 pulls. Got lucky in the end ✌ E2 significantly increases team flexibility and Ultimate stacks. It's kind of a luxury but an amazing one! Can't say the same for someone who would lose every 50/50 and need 500 pulls or more though... 🤔
E2 is def 100% worth to pull, it helps Acheron do even more damage. edit: i'm gonna edit this message for future nerds beacuse for some reason my replies are being deleted ( either from Moga/or someone who has acces to his Acc or youtube Algohrim ) , E2 is defenitly worth to pull for beacuse you gain 1 team slot that you can change, IT WILL change the perspective of new team and you can do better than previous if you test it by yourself, you can do it as f2p so now please stop saying "yeah if you spend money" its your problem that you dont have dedication to save, have a nice day/night.
The only reason i went for E2 is for diversity.I genuinely got bored only having a few options for non nihility.But with E2 I can do sustain and buffer aswell as maybe double dps or just random teams.Having the abyss go down to only 1 nihility really made the teams i played more fun and diverse
Gepard with the topaz preservation lc (if you have it) is better than gallagher bc every time gepard gets hit with a shield on the enemy will get a burn dot which counts as debuff for acheron
E2 acheron is so good, because you can use harmony instead of nihility to boost your damage further. Plus with her lc you basically gain 3 stacks of flower every turn instead of 2. This means you're likely to ult every 2 turns instead of 3 or 4 turns.
I will say that my account has insane luck, but as a low spender, I usually pull E0S0. I decided to only pull Acheron E0S0 and if I really liked her playstyle in a week, I would go for S1. Acheron at E0 already felt very powerful but her lightcone made it much easier to get her ultimate and did deal a lot more damage. I already see her as broken and the #1 damage dealer in the game but E2 feels excessive when that 160% damage boost from 2 Nihility characters is practically given for free. I can run Silver Wolf and Pela or Black Swan and Guinaifen and the damage is still pretty consistent. Pela's def shred makes a huge difference but overall, I see Acheron E0 as a very strong character with high damage potential in her S1 and E2. At the end of the day, I would rather have all characters at E0 before considering eidolons or even signature lightcones. That level of investment comes at a cost and you are essentially paying for bigger numbers.
I got E2 Acheron almost pity each time (wud get one copy at 70+ pulls) 😢 but atleast i won all of the 2 50/50 and got 9 gallagher, 5 pela, 6 dan heng, 2 hanya, other 4* units and a ton of 4* lightcone including 3 dance dance dance so i guess its a blessing in diguise despite almost hitting pity for each copy of acheron. E2 acheron gets 3 stacks every turn so bronya or/and sparkle makes the need for debuffers unnecessary (still need one nihility for bonus)
I would say the biggest difference is not so much the "single attack" damage... but how much more often she will deploy her ult in longer battles. It doesn't make that much difference for people with super builds that always 0 cycle everything but if you are having a harder time she can take your 5 turns and turn it into 2....that and the team variety.... it allows for shielders , healers, supports, other dps units...or even Arlan if you are insane like that.
My archeron is e1s1 and she is hitting 600-700k in the outside world ( no food ) the team I am using is Pela ,bs and Gallagher. Definitely gonna get her e2 on her first rerun
@@diego6991 how much crit rate/crit dmg and atk does she have ? And what level are her traces , mine has 4k atk and crit is 65/235% + traces are all maxed.
While I can't afford Acheron's E2 I was able to grab both her and her lightcone Luocha and Luocha's light cone along with a gepard light cone dupe.... and a yanqing when I have a max jingliu So Overall thats both banner units and both banner light cones i'll take it. Low spender and all I got some help getting acheron and that was it.
I'm pairing her with Bronya for MoC since I really need Sparkle for my DHIL but she absolutely owns regardless. Switch out her SPD boots with ATK and MoC12 is a breeze with her and DHIL. That said, I'm shocked you only got E2 Gallagher with 400 pulls. I got E6 just trying to get E0 Acheron.
I run Acheron with speed boots because I have E4 Bronya. After Bronya skills, Acheron overtakes Bronya on her next action. Only problem is SP usage. Its something like this, Acheron has 0 stacks and team has 3SP. Bronya skill > Acheron skill (3 stacks) > Pela basic (4 stack) > Aventurine basic > Acheron with speed boost skill (7 stack) > Bronya skill > Acheron Skill (10 stacks)
I have spent all my power and firepots since she was released and I have only got the worst relics since I started the game. I am quite sure they did something to lower the rates on the diver set.
short answer: yes, now your acheron can get that full 160% dmg buff with only 1 other nihility character and slot in a harmony in the party for even more damage
After I got Acheron I kept pulling for Gallager (got 0) and in next 30 pulls I got 2x more Acheron and 0 Gallagher. Well it did not go as planned but I am not complaining. :)
When we get jaquaio it is going to make e2 soo stupid, your going to essentialy be able to run acheron / then two units to push her foward like robin and sparkle or bronya, then jaquaio all while getting the full trace effect. Gonna be nuts. I am already hitting 1.6 go 2 million pretty frequently in MOC 11 and 12 with easy 0 cycles.
E2 is so broken because you get to replace another nihility for a tank that taunts eg:fire TB with the LC that has a 100% chance to inflict burn if hit by enemies so she even gets stacks even faster
Basicly her E2 just unlock harmony unit in her team, nothing crazy like damage increase such as Jingliu or Lunae E2 but it gives Acheron more viable team to bolster her damage.
@@BestKazuhaFan that's what I meant, either E1 nor E2 have any damage increase since she already busted, ofcourse without E2 you still can bring harmony but it's a glass cannon team.
Don't be so greedy, even with "invisble" 4% from set and 18% from E1 crit rate body would allow for a better build. Right now you are barely scratching 70%. It is not a good amount to be satisfied with.. Don't underestimate consistency over occasional big number.
She keeps playing hard to get. I won her 50/50 at 76, lost to Clara at 42, won at 86, and now I'm at 74 pity for E2. Hopefully I manage to get E2 with the rest of my monthly pass plus jades from events and dailies.
I always say to myself that I could, for the first time, go for 5 star eidolons on their reruns but then they keep making characters I simp for so I don’t have a chance to save…
Not really at e2 you literally get 30% cr for free with izumo set so you def want to go cd. Mine is at 100 cr 220% cd because I don't have a good cd body. 100% cr is really great but losing 20% cr for 40% cd is worth it. Ideally I want to be at around 80% cr 250% cd.
she does get a lot of crit rate from her kit and gear, (12% from izumo, 8% from the 4pc set, 18% from E1, assuming you have sparkle LC +10% more CR), that's 48% crit rate already (boosted to 60% CR if you use fuxuan). You just need 20-25% more crit rate which is around 8-10 substat rolls
E1+Izumo+FX can give you 42% Crit rate, This not counting Sparkle S1. Counting Everthing From that Video Build : Sparkle S1+E1 Acheron+FX+ Acheron (base+Traces+4pc) = 77% crit rate There is literally no Reason for using Crit rate Body with that Comp
for me I when I had E0 acheron I did at max 55-60k burst damage ( btw I dont even have good nor her BIS artificats aka shit) and then I got E2 acheron idk how tf this is possible I ended up getting about 295-320k burst damage at the time and both run the same team of Natasha Silver Wolf Bronya Acheron I also have acheron's signature weapon and also i dont have good builds for any of the characters that I just said so for me getting E2 acheron is well worth it since you are able to have 1 or 2 buffer and ur will have a EASIER time to get her ult due to her E2 Acheron crit ratio is 11.9 rate to 210 crit damage so with E1 her crit rate is about 30% and her damage still is getting better because of her artifacts I can now get 400k
You should've tested E1 with 2 NIHILITY units anyways... that 45% difference is what you saw with your E2 with 1 Nihility... your Acheron should've done more of less the same damage at E2 with 1 Nihility & E1 with 2 Nihility... also... use your E or AA on the boss before the Ult so that Mirage Fizzle is applied to the whole ult and not just the last 3 hits...
I think this banner likes me cus i got acheron then 50 pity himeko then early acheron like 12 pity then early welt also around 15 pity and now i have guaranteed aventurine
My respect for Moga gradually dropped due to how he recently review units with constellations/eidolons. Bring back the old Moga who uses CO/E0 units and push their limits to the max.
In my personal opinion it will definitely lose value in the future when we get stronger nihility units to pair with her but for now it’s pretty decent.
Yes she was, better options for teambuilding, "less" dmg because no SW and Pela or Black Swan buuuuuuuut... You can now use buffers who make her stronger. Also you get a free stack every turn
When you do Acheron Sparkle you need to swap out to ATK% boots and ensure sparkle is 160+, otherwise you're wasting the E2, and with Ruan you go 125 or so speed with max talent so she gets 134 and all the other benefits and you ram as much CV for the troubles, if you don't do these things you're looking at gimped numbers
Does anyone have passing e2 acheron teams that dont include sparkle, bronya and tingyun? I dont have sparkle or bronya and I'm going to be using tingyun elsewhere.
HELP NEEDED PLEASE!!!, Uhm I wasn't planning on getting Acheron then I got however since I was at low pity I pulled and got her E1 so now I'm in a bind should i get E2 or LC?, I have a chance at either since they're both low pity so what do you think?
Hello i reaally need help i have e1 acheron with sig and my pity IS high i only have one sustain which IS luocha and idk should i Roll aventurine or acheron e2
Can't really go wrong with either choice. If you got Fu Xuan and no plans for follow up teams, maybe Aventurine is a bit less fun? Idk, he seems great regardless. E2 Acheron is super fun too giving you a bunch of team options. Honestly if you really can't decide, become Aventurine for a moment and flip a coin
@talellabiadh2623 cool :D honestly you will probably still get adventurine, star rail is pretty generous with rewards I already got 60 pulls saved after I pulled acheron and her lc.
For moc pela is overkill at acheron e2 for elites. Sw is better for st focus def shred and res down. Mine would just wipe the whole first wave of moc 12 sam stage if I used pela def shred. With sw I can leave behind one elite and get stacks off from it.
idk why but i'm hitting 1kk with e0s1 one harmony easily. sometimes even 1.3kk my stats are the same (50/205) if there is no harmony (pela, sw, gallager/gepard) than its always about 600-800k ult and your e2 Acheron doin less with 2 harmonies in team any ideas why?
That's a very good daily quest reward.
LMAO
Wish mine gave that much
genshin could never lmaooo
@@nick1181HSR players try not to talk about genshin for one second in your life challenge(impossible):
@@ammarnk9260hsr players come from genshin so yeah very impossible
Moga doing theorycrafting and calculations is truly peak content
it's like watching a monkey using tools kekw
Moga is evolving
@@Zeon081funny you say that cause he actually used to make guides for hi3
One thing I noticed with E2 is that once you pair her with Sparkle you can switch out her SPD boots for ATK. Sparkle pushes her turn up anyway for more stacks so it's more value I think
The actual disgusting cracked team is acheron e2s1 with sparkle and bronya. Bronya with acheron spd - 1 for double turns, and sparkle tuned to move right after. With pela/sw and good rng could probably 0 or 1 cycle stuff
You can now basically one phase everything in MoC with E2 Acheron, Pela, Ruan Mei, Sparkle
more often than not atk is recomended anyway, obviously team dependant but still.
Yeah it’s like running 165 speed on bronya with jingliu
you should run her with atk boots even at e0
Damn, that daily quest really gave a lot of stellar jades😂😂😂
an actually good testing of e1 vs e2 in a moga video ?!?? i can’t believe my eyes
Moga if you wanna use fu xuan for Acheron there’s a four star light cone called trend of the universal market that gives a debuff so it makes fu xuan viable
E2 was definitely worth it for me. I didn't spend over $350 and She is literally the best character i have on my account. Her + e6 gallgher is literally insane. I haven't had one of her bursts hit less than 500k since i e2 her even in MoC 12 (highest has been 1507896). And i finally was able to finish lvl 5 gold and gears. Team i've been using is Acheron, pela, sparkle, and gallagher. I haven't tried SW yet though
I spent 5$ for monthly internet to play the game to get Acheron, tour point is?
Not getting more than 3 galleghars is over 400 pulls is crazy 💀
I had a Lynx incident trying to get her E2 and getting Fu's E2 before that. And no, my Fu didn't come early. Sniping 4 stars is just that bad.
why we need a 4* pity system already jesus
I got 5 five stars and 2 Gallagherz :(
i got like 15 dan heng and 1 gallagher
I got E2 Gallagher in 50 pulls lol
You could also use a Gepard or Fire Trailblaizer with the Trend of the universal market light cone equiped because it implants burn if hit and both of them raise their chance of being hit instead of Galleghar
How about using that lc on fuxuan? Is it ok
@@mirwanmuzani6632it can, but there are other 4 star lc's that are better for her
@mirwanmuzani6632 it's still good, it's just that gepard and fire TB both increase their own aggro, so enemies are more likely to hit them and thus more likely to procc the effect of the lightcone. Fu xuan is still a better sustained than both of them so its still good to use her even with the lowered synergy.
Although, if you're killing the enemies in 1 or 0 cycles anyway, your sustain doesn't really matter. Its better in longer content like Swarm or gold and gears
Definetly worth it, If you can afford it.
She is the strongest E2 Dps we have right now. You could argue E2 Dhil is better. But at the end the day both Unit can easily 0 cycle any content
Yeah I have E0 Acheron and S1 GNSW on two piece set with speed boots and she still slaps ez got me all stars in MOC and PF
Hello i reaally need help i have e1 acheron with sig and my pity IS high i only have one sustain which IS luocha and idk should i Roll aventurine or acheron e2
E0S1 Acheron is still the strongest dps in the game. E0 Acheron > E2 Dhil. Not debatable. So no you could not argue that, at all.
@@talellabiadh2623okay so damage wise it's not a big increase
Think it like this you kill an enemy with 240k dmg, with e2 u can do 260 but the enemy is still dead in both cases
@@talellabiadh2623also my personal opinion would be to go for aventurine as he will be the new meta in shields
E2 opens up different comps. I was having trouble surviving MOC due to low speed shitty gear from Rigged Number Generator so I put Gallagher + Acheron + Black Swan + Fire MC. Enough damage and enough sustain
FFS Moga... drop the speed boots and go Att% you have Sparkle to boost Acheron's turn anyway and she will always be after sparkle for the 1st ulti and benefit from the CritDmg boost not a very optimal Dmg test since you wasted so much Att on Acheron with the speed boots :(
As good as it is, I think I'm going to hold off and just pull on more characters and keep her at e0 s1. Only reason being, she can already dominate all of the content we have. If she gets a rerun down the road, and no one in the meantime really tickles my fancy, I might go for it.
I feel the same way, I wanted both Jingliu and Aventurine so I had to settle for just her and her lightcone that I shockingly got two of in one ten pull. When her rerun comes a few months from now I’ll definitely get her e2. But she’s still plenty strong anyway. But thankfully I did get Jingliu and Aventurine so it was worth the eidolon skip this time. 😅
U can use trend of the universal light on fu xuan to give you a rebuff every time she’s hit
After an awful start, got Acheron E2 after 197 pulls. Got lucky in the end ✌
E2 significantly increases team flexibility and Ultimate stacks. It's kind of a luxury but an amazing one!
Can't say the same for someone who would lose every 50/50 and need 500 pulls or more though... 🤔
You got extremely lucky.
damn you're lucky
I got E0S1 in 150 pulls so guys don't think you can do the same as PLB lol
ah you are really lucky. I lose the two 50/50 so only stuck with e1
got E2 in 40 pulls at 20 pity - was saving for Aventurine and just wanted a Gallagher... I will probably not win 50/50 but am hoping to lose to Gepy 🥲
E2 is def 100% worth to pull, it helps Acheron do even more damage.
edit: i'm gonna edit this message for future nerds beacuse for some reason my replies are being deleted ( either from Moga/or someone who has acces to his Acc or youtube Algohrim ) , E2 is defenitly worth to pull for beacuse you gain 1 team slot that you can change, IT WILL change the perspective of new team and you can do better than previous if you test it by yourself, you can do it as f2p so now please stop saying "yeah if you spend money" its your problem that you dont have dedication to save, have a nice day/night.
It's not worth it
@@Hhhh22222-w if you're losing 50/50, be able to copium with it.
@haruyanto8085 it really is
@@Hhhh22222-wits an easy af gacha game
the answer to pulling high eidoleons is always NO
It's never worth it to pull for e but if you will to spend money in game this is the best you can get
The only reason i went for E2 is for diversity.I genuinely got bored only having a few options for non nihility.But with E2 I can do sustain and buffer aswell as maybe double dps or just random teams.Having the abyss go down to only 1 nihility really made the teams i played more fun and diverse
The way Moga started cussing lol 8:00
"You son of an @ss" 😂
and the bastard LOL
For Long Fights Like Pure Fiction, Taking Fire Mc(Topaz lightcone one) With E2 Acheron Gives Her So Many Ults
Gepard with the topaz preservation lc (if you have it) is better than gallagher bc every time gepard gets hit with a shield on the enemy will get a burn dot which counts as debuff for acheron
E2 acheron is so good, because you can use harmony instead of nihility to boost your damage further. Plus with her lc you basically gain 3 stacks of flower every turn instead of 2. This means you're likely to ult every 2 turns instead of 3 or 4 turns.
I will say that my account has insane luck, but as a low spender, I usually pull E0S0. I decided to only pull Acheron E0S0 and if I really liked her playstyle in a week, I would go for S1. Acheron at E0 already felt very powerful but her lightcone made it much easier to get her ultimate and did deal a lot more damage. I already see her as broken and the #1 damage dealer in the game but E2 feels excessive when that 160% damage boost from 2 Nihility characters is practically given for free. I can run Silver Wolf and Pela or Black Swan and Guinaifen and the damage is still pretty consistent. Pela's def shred makes a huge difference but overall, I see Acheron E0 as a very strong character with high damage potential in her S1 and E2. At the end of the day, I would rather have all characters at E0 before considering eidolons or even signature lightcones. That level of investment comes at a cost and you are essentially paying for bigger numbers.
Accidentally got her at e6 pulling for Gallagher. She's worth every gem.
You what
Bro is stealing everyone’s luck 💀
WHAT
I feel like if you’re using Sparkle with her you don’t need speed boots because acherons turn isn’t really dependent on getting her ult
I got E2 Acheron almost pity each time (wud get one copy at 70+ pulls) 😢 but atleast i won all of the 2 50/50 and got 9 gallagher, 5 pela, 6 dan heng, 2 hanya, other 4* units and a ton of 4* lightcone including 3 dance dance dance so i guess its a blessing in diguise despite almost hitting pity for each copy of acheron. E2 acheron gets 3 stacks every turn so bronya or/and sparkle makes the need for debuffers unnecessary (still need one nihility for bonus)
I would say the biggest difference is not so much the "single attack" damage... but how much more often she will deploy her ult in longer battles. It doesn't make that much difference for people with super builds that always 0 cycle everything but if you are having a harder time she can take your 5 turns and turn it into 2....that and the team variety.... it allows for shielders , healers, supports, other dps units...or even Arlan if you are insane like that.
My archeron is e1s1 and she is hitting 600-700k in the outside world ( no food ) the team I am using is Pela ,bs and Gallagher. Definitely gonna get her e2 on her first rerun
Mine also e1s1 acheron hit only 160k+ 😢
@@diego6991 how much crit rate/crit dmg and atk does she have ? And what level are her traces , mine has 4k atk and crit is 65/235% + traces are all maxed.
@@taisijazueva5311 attack 3k+,crit rate 80 and crit dmg 143
a team i use with temps e2 is blackswan/silverwolf, bronya, and gallagher. Its a really good team
While I can't afford Acheron's E2 I was able to grab both her and her lightcone
Luocha and Luocha's light cone along with a gepard light cone dupe.... and a yanqing when I have a max jingliu
So Overall thats both banner units and both banner light cones i'll take it. Low spender and all I got some help getting acheron and that was it.
I got her in 90 pull, I got her E0 at 78, got her E1 at 21 and her E2 at 10, I'm pretty pleased, also her LC in 40.
6:17 or the lower damage was the RNG of the debuff of SW since her attacks give ramdom debuffs including DEF shread
I'm pairing her with Bronya for MoC since I really need Sparkle for my DHIL but she absolutely owns regardless. Switch out her SPD boots with ATK and MoC12 is a breeze with her and DHIL.
That said, I'm shocked you only got E2 Gallagher with 400 pulls. I got E6 just trying to get E0 Acheron.
I run Acheron with speed boots because I have E4 Bronya. After Bronya skills, Acheron overtakes Bronya on her next action. Only problem is SP usage.
Its something like this, Acheron has 0 stacks and team has 3SP.
Bronya skill > Acheron skill (3 stacks) > Pela basic (4 stack) > Aventurine basic > Acheron with speed boost skill (7 stack) > Bronya skill > Acheron Skill (10 stacks)
SP becomes a problem to maintain Bronya speed boost 100% of the time. You basically need RNG to always recover SP from Bronya.
Got her E2 and S1 within 200 pulls feeling very lucky
Man I got her E2 and have been running Fuxuan, Sparkle, Pela, Acheron. On 3-4 enemies she's doing 650k-1mill depending.
I got my Acheron E2 with her lightcone in 90 total pulls.
When she comes back, I'll try to catch her e2 mine is just E1
Just got pity broken by bronya today in my last f2p push for acheron. Cant get enough jades before banner ends to hit pity again 😢
Wish that kind of daily quest reward
No daily quest will be left out
I have spent all my power and firepots since she was released and I have only got the worst relics since I started the game.
I am quite sure they did something to lower the rates on the diver set.
if they release a new nihility character that can heal/shield in the future, what will happen to the value of archeron’s e2?
I'd say it would still be valuable, since if this hypothetical nihility could solo sustain she could run 2 harmony characters by default
It will always be helpful just not necessary. theoretically I could still run 2 harmony 2 nihility, it would just be glass cannon
What’s insane is this video recommended to me after I E2ed my acheron
short answer: yes, now your acheron can get that full 160% dmg buff with only 1 other nihility character and slot in a harmony in the party for even more damage
After I got Acheron I kept pulling for Gallager (got 0) and in next 30 pulls I got 2x more Acheron and 0 Gallagher. Well it did not go as planned but I am not complaining. :)
When we get jaquaio it is going to make e2 soo stupid, your going to essentialy be able to run acheron / then two units to push her foward like robin and sparkle or bronya, then jaquaio all while getting the full trace effect. Gonna be nuts. I am already hitting 1.6 go 2 million pretty frequently in MOC 11 and 12 with easy 0 cycles.
''son of an ass'' 💀we keep on learning something everyday 💀
E2 is so broken because you get to replace another nihility for a tank that taunts eg:fire TB with the LC that has a 100% chance to inflict burn if hit by enemies so she even gets stacks even faster
Basicly her E2 just unlock harmony unit in her team, nothing crazy like damage increase such as Jingliu or Lunae E2 but it gives Acheron more viable team to bolster her damage.
uhh acheron and danheng e0 do more damage than jingliu..
@@BestKazuhaFan that's what I meant, either E1 nor E2 have any damage increase since she already busted, ofcourse without E2 you still can bring harmony but it's a glass cannon team.
Bro you should do her skill befor ult as it give mirage fizzal
If u swap out speed boots to attk boots u will instantly see a big dmg increase, also e2 with sparkle should be avg’ing a mill with the proper strat.
Got E2 after E1 Bronya I’m happy with my summons and she’s so much easier to use in different teams E2
Don't be so greedy, even with "invisble" 4% from set and 18% from E1 crit rate body would allow for a better build. Right now you are barely scratching 70%. It is not a good amount to be satisfied with.. Don't underestimate consistency over occasional big number.
1:11 explain to me how daily quests got him THOSE MANY STELLAR JADE......HOWWWW TELL ME SOMEBODY
💳
@@VLiteral ahh yess.. ofc lol
I lost the 50/50 twice on her. Now I'm stuck at E1 with guaranteed and no gems. sadge.
Daily quest needed a credit card.
Archeron E0 : S+ tier.
Archeron E2 : nearly broken character
E6 universal charter because skill also weakness break(not worth money! Don’t spend money!)
She keeps playing hard to get. I won her 50/50 at 76, lost to Clara at 42, won at 86, and now I'm at 74 pity for E2. Hopefully I manage to get E2 with the rest of my monthly pass plus jades from events and dailies.
I always say to myself that I could, for the first time, go for 5 star eidolons on their reruns but then they keep making characters I simp for so I don’t have a chance to save…
2:19 again you say you need Sparkle to reach the crit threshold like your last Acheron video when I think you're thinking of Fu Xuans crit rate buff
Sparkle’s lightcone buffs team crit rate by 10% if I’m not mistaken as well
I was going for luocha. Got to 34 pull and my friend dared me to do a 10 pull on her. I got her at 40 pull
Definitely should try Black swan
If you are using Sparkle with Acheron, it might be better if you use a crit rate chest on her
Not really at e2 you literally get 30% cr for free with izumo set so you def want to go cd. Mine is at 100 cr 220% cd because I don't have a good cd body. 100% cr is really great but losing 20% cr for 40% cd is worth it. Ideally I want to be at around 80% cr 250% cd.
@@kaseyatakahashi9753 Generally yes but with how little cr Moga's build has crate body might even be better
she does get a lot of crit rate from her kit and gear, (12% from izumo, 8% from the 4pc set, 18% from E1, assuming you have sparkle LC +10% more CR), that's 48% crit rate already (boosted to 60% CR if you use fuxuan). You just need 20-25% more crit rate which is around 8-10 substat rolls
E1+Izumo+FX can give you 42% Crit rate, This not counting Sparkle S1.
Counting Everthing From that Video Build :
Sparkle S1+E1 Acheron+FX+ Acheron (base+Traces+4pc) = 77% crit rate
There is literally no Reason for using Crit rate Body with that Comp
no unless you have terrible cr substats
Hey moga can you do a simulated universe run video?
My comp acheron, bronya, pela, fuxuan is it good?
If ur e2 yeah definitely fine, but maybe change fu xuan to fire mc (preferably with the trend light cone) or Gallagher 😊
If you can't get E2, go for S1
S1 vs S0 is kind of a goated difference imo
plus there is a chance to get GNSW
Got a second S5 GNSW only rolling for E0+LC.
My acheron a2 with broken set has 4250 attack 81 critical rate and 248 critical damage...
for me I when I had E0 acheron I did at max 55-60k burst damage ( btw I dont even have good nor her BIS artificats aka shit)
and then I got E2 acheron idk how tf this is possible I ended up getting about 295-320k burst damage at the time
and both run the same team of Natasha Silver Wolf Bronya Acheron I also have acheron's signature weapon
and also i dont have good builds for any of the characters that I just said
so for me getting E2 acheron is well worth it since you are able to have 1 or 2 buffer and ur will have a EASIER time to get her ult due to her E2
Acheron crit ratio is 11.9 rate to 210 crit damage so with E1 her crit rate is about 30%
and her damage still is getting better because of her artifacts I can now get 400k
Since jiaqiu coming out, id say dont go e2 and save for him. Jiaoqiu and pela is gonna be her best team
I LOVE MOGA CONTENT
You should've tested E1 with 2 NIHILITY units anyways... that 45% difference is what you saw with your E2 with 1 Nihility... your Acheron should've done more of less the same damage at E2 with 1 Nihility & E1 with 2 Nihility... also... use your E or AA on the boss before the Ult so that Mirage Fizzle is applied to the whole ult and not just the last 3 hits...
I think this banner likes me cus i got acheron then 50 pity himeko then early acheron like 12 pity then early welt also around 15 pity and now i have guaranteed aventurine
I like seeing pity number
My respect for Moga gradually dropped due to how he recently review units with constellations/eidolons. Bring back the old Moga who uses CO/E0 units and push their limits to the max.
I was thinking of using acheron e2, silver wolf, x, and galleghar. What would be the best unit for X if i dont have sparkle or ruan mei?
Bronya, but you need 161 speed on Bronya, so Acheron can use Atk Boots
Got her E0S1 and then lost 50/50 to Himeko. So this is good enough for now because I need Sam
Firefly will coming as character in the future? A better 5* Hook?
@@luripu have you completed 2.1s story?
@@bloodywolf9760 Yes.
@@luripu I’m guessing 2.3 after the ending with Sam and TB
I got her super quick E1 and her lightcone
"YOU SON OF AN ASS" , LMFAO, I found that way funnier then I should have. I am 100% using that one 💀☠
In my personal opinion it will definitely lose value in the future when we get stronger nihility units to pair with her but for now it’s pretty decent.
difference with e0...just insane !
e2 just hits diff, u can tell the difference when you experience it
Yes she was, better options for teambuilding, "less" dmg because no SW and Pela or Black Swan buuuuuuuut... You can now use buffers who make her stronger. Also you get a free stack every turn
Yeah E1 and 2 seem worth it but I'm tryna spend MORE money. So imo, no unless you're a sadist who enjoys pain from losing 50/50
I got E0 And S1 and I must say she s good
I dont have e2, i just slap sparkle on the team and she does fine.
When you do Acheron Sparkle you need to swap out to ATK% boots and ensure sparkle is 160+, otherwise you're wasting the E2, and with Ruan you go 125 or so speed with max talent so she gets 134 and all the other benefits and you ram as much CV for the troubles, if you don't do these things you're looking at gimped numbers
1 st acheron in 80 pulls + 2 in 20 pull all mihayo Blessings with me
Does anyone have passing e2 acheron teams that dont include sparkle, bronya and tingyun? I dont have sparkle or bronya and I'm going to be using tingyun elsewhere.
HELP NEEDED PLEASE!!!, Uhm I wasn't planning on getting Acheron then I got however since I was at low pity I pulled and got her E1 so now I'm in a bind should i get E2 or LC?, I have a chance at either since they're both low pity so what do you think?
Lc all the way
Light cone
I'm getting E2 in rerun
Hello i reaally need help i have e1 acheron with sig and my pity IS high i only have one sustain which IS luocha and idk should i Roll aventurine or acheron e2
Can't really go wrong with either choice. If you got Fu Xuan and no plans for follow up teams, maybe Aventurine is a bit less fun? Idk, he seems great regardless. E2 Acheron is super fun too giving you a bunch of team options. Honestly if you really can't decide, become Aventurine for a moment and flip a coin
With only one sustain like that , I'd just go for adventurine. That will give a massive upgrade for your account, I would try her e2 on rerun.
@@Kennarrs well uh i got herr E2 early than E3 pity 0 i'mma cry
@talellabiadh2623 cool :D honestly you will probably still get adventurine, star rail is pretty generous with rewards I already got 60 pulls saved after I pulled acheron and her lc.
@@Kennarrs i wish i arrive to pity tho hhhh
What do you do if you skipped sparkle
E6S5 😅 she is so broken. I did 1.5million damage ult in regular relic hunt.
Either it's unlucky but I feel like this banner drops was more rough then the last banner
Worst banner in my whole entire playtime worst luck fr
man i got more acherons than a gallagher he only showed up once out of my 150 pulls 😭😭
Bruh moga take the speed boots off man. Sparkle makes them useless. Also use pela it technically better than silver wolf
For moc pela is overkill at acheron e2 for elites. Sw is better for st focus def shred and res down. Mine would just wipe the whole first wave of moc 12 sam stage if I used pela def shred. With sw I can leave behind one elite and get stacks off from it.
idk why but i'm hitting 1kk with e0s1 one harmony easily. sometimes even 1.3kk
my stats are the same (50/205)
if there is no harmony (pela, sw, gallager/gepard) than its always about 600-800k ult
and your e2 Acheron doin less with 2 harmonies in team
any ideas why?
he is using spd boots
Not worth it at all. You can do 1m damage in MoC 12 with E0. This has been tested so don't even bother arguing in comments.
What supports for this ? E1 Ruan Mei I'm assuming and what else ?
@@F4keOfficial Ruan Mei, Black Swan and Pela
"Daily quest" aka swiping ig 😂
you cant even tell if he´s sarcastic or not 0:30
His E2 is less dmg than my E0 💀💀... at least in the highest dmg tries 😢
Got 2 5 stars and no beer man