Snowpiercer = Willy Wonka Sequel? (Rhino Stew followup)

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  • Snowpiercer is a sequel to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory?
    A follow-up to the Rhino Stew video.
    The original Rhino Stew video completely blew my mind when I first saw it, so this one is inspired by their idea. Watch the original here: • Why SNOWPIERCER is a s...
    New comparison of the two films, with more connections between the two!
    If you like this theory and want more, there's another 6 mins of EVEN MORE CONNECTIONS here:
    • Wonkapiercer Extra Stu...
    BONUS MATERIAL available at: • Bonus Material: Snowpi...
    A MINI ESSAY covering some ideas I've had about this theory since I first edited this together: / nomadickong
    #Wonkapiercer
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  • @swiff
    @swiff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +954

    in the books it is said that the Oompa Loompas can't handle snow... so that's how they died.

    • @clickbait3753
      @clickbait3753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      And willy had no female oompa loompas so even without a disaster it was inevitable.

    • @victorminerva4546
      @victorminerva4546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      What book and page please

    • @nathanhernandez7173
      @nathanhernandez7173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@victorminerva4546 I haven’t read the book in like 10 years but I definitely recall the oompa loompas coming from africa or some place near the equator (this might’ve been mentioned in the book sequel and not the original) so it makes sense that they would go extinct in the frozen cold

    • @nathanhernandez7173
      @nathanhernandez7173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @Lost Sky It could’ve been South America i don’t remember, I read the books when I was a kid

    • @pretendtheresaname9213
      @pretendtheresaname9213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@victorminerva4546 I also dont know but in the other adaptation of the book with Johnny Depp (which is more accurate to the book), Willy also says the same.

  • @terrykmoney
    @terrykmoney 5 ปีที่แล้ว +552

    In Charlie and the chocolate factory they reference it being really hot and he says the oompa loompas can't take cold. That's why they went extinct

    • @reggiemillerisunderrated8396
      @reggiemillerisunderrated8396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Good point

    • @user-zz6yv2qz3v
      @user-zz6yv2qz3v 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really? I don’t remember him saying that but i did watch both versions of Willy wonka including the recent wonka movie starring timothée chalamet as a young Willy wonka before he invented the chocolate factory sorry if this is tmi (too much information)

  • @crimsonskies9064
    @crimsonskies9064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +571

    Wasn't there something in Willy Wonka about ice cream that never melts? There's your CW7

    • @astrangeradrift2775
      @astrangeradrift2775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      we have a winner

    • @anaphylaxis6599
      @anaphylaxis6599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Omg

    • @alysonforan3007
      @alysonforan3007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      And someone else commented that on one of the previews for the show the song pure Imagination place totally proves this so cool

    • @arthur2953
      @arthur2953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Errrr, CW7 is a gas right? Or I'm an idiot and this is sarcasm

    • @crimsonskies9064
      @crimsonskies9064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@arthur2953 I think it was, or perhaps an aerosolized liquid. I was just saying that whatever was used to make the unmelting ice cream could be the precursor to the cw7.

  • @therealspaceninja27
    @therealspaceninja27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +404

    Obviously the director Bong Joon Ho created a giant Easter egg post apocalyptic cinematic masterpiece sequel and didn’t want to pay royalties.

    • @manurr10
      @manurr10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      That is what exactly has happened.

    • @RandomUserX99
      @RandomUserX99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      ... and some how instead of asking him everyone wanted to ask Chris Evans instead.

    • @snowballandpals
      @snowballandpals 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      More directors and writers should make unofficial sequels to awesome movies.

    • @MashiroShiina
      @MashiroShiina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @James Howlett source?

  • @EliasPoint
    @EliasPoint 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5973

    I think youtube really wants us to believe in this. They did recommend the original theory and now this

    • @tsuki7064
      @tsuki7064 5 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      I mean if you watched the original theory when it was recommended, ofc it will recommend this too. Its not rocket science nor some underground illuminati sh*t about youtube tryna brainwash you. Its just the algorithm doing its job. You watched a video that this video references so it recommends you this

    • @bugzyhardrada3168
      @bugzyhardrada3168 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Yeah i mean it makes total sense, the algorithm follows your recent activity and if you ever watched the original then chances are youre gonna get a follow up recommendation to the follow up video......
      Its logics 101 ffs........
      People these days......

    • @torcatogjm
      @torcatogjm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I also watch it yesterday

    • @leeandradsouza8358
      @leeandradsouza8358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I mean how can you not believe thissss

    • @thomasgonzales-johnson6298
      @thomasgonzales-johnson6298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Jesus lay off the dude does your daddy own youwtube whittle babbbbby? YoU UpSet?

  • @Lexie_Tyler05
    @Lexie_Tyler05 4 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    I never imagined I would find myself agreeing with such a seemingly outlandish idea

    • @l_galand942
      @l_galand942 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Thank you Obi Wan, very cool

    • @tristanlanier5641
      @tristanlanier5641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      General Kenobi, you are a bold one

    • @YoungTummy
      @YoungTummy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So uncivilized

  • @QuaversASMR
    @QuaversASMR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    -points out the faded scarf on the shelf
    -doesn’t point out the faded top hat next to it, just like the one Wonka wears

  • @camillahearsch4807
    @camillahearsch4807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    The books line up wayyyy more than the movies. Fun easter egg: the book of Snowpiercer name drops Willy Wonka as a popular candy company that existed in the time before the train

    • @TheUnderscore_
      @TheUnderscore_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Whoa, really?

    • @Crazylom
      @Crazylom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      No THEY DID NOT-

    • @makimaki6212
      @makimaki6212 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      NOOO MY MIND-MY CHILDHOOD

    • @paige6345
      @paige6345 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      NO WAY

    • @jarrarwinks8470
      @jarrarwinks8470 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty sure this is bullshit lol.

  • @pirashik7190
    @pirashik7190 5 ปีที่แล้ว +324

    All these fools in the comment section ranting about how this video isn't 'ORIGINAL' and a 'RIP OFF". This dude literally puts 'follow up' in the title and he suddenly becomes accused for stealing the idea when he's never claimed it was his own. He even puts the name of the channel in the title and the original link in the description and mentions the original theory constantly. The way I see it, this video is good for both of them and it'll keep garnering more views and profit, which might be the cause of all these butthurt people down in the comments blabbering about 'plagiarism'. There's a clear difference between 'RIPPING OFF' and extending an already presented idea with new facts (and or theories, in this case ).

    • @meganmcdonald5229
      @meganmcdonald5229 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rashik Hossain BOOM. 🙌 👏

    • @coolchilion722
      @coolchilion722 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tell that to Ryan Lewis

    • @nc8886
      @nc8886 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      👍

    • @cabechek
      @cabechek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Everything in this video was new from the rhino stew video and if anything , it goes well as a part 2 to the original video

    • @NotMichaelEither
      @NotMichaelEither 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, but this video is sometimes waaaay too far reaching

  • @BrentODell
    @BrentODell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +742

    The bear at the end of Snowpiercer tells us that one aspect of the narrative inside the train is a lie: ALL life outside the train is extinct. Clearly, some life has survived, and if there's a predator, there must be prey, which means a good deal of life is out there. The people at the end may, in fact, become bear food, but for me, the message is... life finds a way.

    • @Silas_Part_1
      @Silas_Part_1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      That line is my favorite.

    • @awildfilingcabinet6239
      @awildfilingcabinet6239 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Yes. If a polar bear has been able to survive, humans could definitely survive. The issue is that none of the world were equipped for the sudden temp change, so it’s likely that all human life as well life outside of the Arctic died. In fact, it’s kinda surprising that the bear survived, as they’re the most dependent on the rest of the food chain, and that was probably significantly disrupted as the arctic suddenly changed with the rest of the world. As it stands it would be one of the worst mass extinctions in world history, but life would recover, and hey, maybe intelligent life will eventually evolve again and learn from our mistakes.

    • @smiler6326
      @smiler6326 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Learn from mistakes if there is nothing surviving on records then that is unlikely I mean it’s happened a few times already civilisation been wiped out and others repeating there mistakes it’s only in last 200 years this actually started to stop. There is proof ancient Egyptians had ways of producing electricity in forms of battery pots but then no one used anything like that for another 2thousand years so if this happened it would be a very slow recovery very slow

    • @peterirungu4083
      @peterirungu4083 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@awildfilingcabinet6239 Does it mean the descendants of Timmy and Nan unavoidably result to incest to repopulate the planet?

    • @wag0NE
      @wag0NE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe they are just going in circles inside a massive factory...

  • @twof5487
    @twof5487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +413

    POV your watching this one because the first one got recommended to you

  • @TheAlienPunker
    @TheAlienPunker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +242

    It is absolutely a sequel, the big W, is just one obvious clue. From Varuca Salt to the "extinction" of the tiny part that operated the engine. Machine Parts don't go "extinct" oops

    • @anqproductions5079
      @anqproductions5079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Exactly what I was thinking. Its quite strange wilford used the word "extinct" 😱😱😱

    • @aliruchman6997
      @aliruchman6997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@anqproductions5079 the word extinct is used a bunch of times throughout the film to describe parts and resources that have run out so it's not too out there for him to say that

  • @matt-ct8vw
    @matt-ct8vw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +347

    WonkaPiecer sounds better than SnowWilly

    • @anji962
      @anji962 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      RichRelease27 snowwilly sounds like a lumberjack prono

    • @ryangray9881
      @ryangray9881 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@anji962 It should be Willypiercer

    • @adrianarias986
      @adrianarias986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean with that profile I think you would like the later name

    • @matt-ct8vw
      @matt-ct8vw 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adrianarias986 no u

    • @turdy_water7646
      @turdy_water7646 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No it doesn't

  • @deletedTestimony
    @deletedTestimony 4 ปีที่แล้ว +246

    I don't give a fuck if it's real-real, there's enough coincidences that it's Canon in my soul

    • @biznessman5632
      @biznessman5632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This is the definition of spiritual successor

    • @djmaximus3000video
      @djmaximus3000video 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      deletedTestimony Samesies

    • @deletedTestimony
      @deletedTestimony 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @James Howlett Did you just... not read the post? Did the words not make sense in that order? Should you go read it again? *Perhaps*

    • @deletedTestimony
      @deletedTestimony 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @James Howlett I'm commenting like you're a dumbass, and you're confirming my theory with replies like that

  • @VikeshSNM
    @VikeshSNM ปีที่แล้ว +138

    Another little thing I noticed is that Wilford says the part went "extinct" which normally refers to a species a/o living organism, so he may have been talking about the oompa loompas.

    • @jhonhdhcb7495
      @jhonhdhcb7495 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I need to rewatch it, but someone on the original theory video said "extinct" was used for other parts like bullets so unfortunately it isn't as conclusive

    • @attackofthecopyrightbots
      @attackofthecopyrightbots ปีที่แล้ว

      just gotta read the book to see what he actually meant

    • @asmodeusguys4472
      @asmodeusguys4472 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It makes sense, since the oompa loompas can only survive in hot climates

  • @fr8traaain
    @fr8traaain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    We need a directors cut with a single new scene containing a frozen, run-down Wonka factory

  • @dominicjefferson3229
    @dominicjefferson3229 5 ปีที่แล้ว +313

    anybody getting this recommended now ?? just watched the original theory yesterday haha

    • @australiandahlia6460
      @australiandahlia6460 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Omg im the same i watched original yesterday

    • @nuclear_legacy8689
      @nuclear_legacy8689 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      WTF same thing. who sent you?

    • @mintnite
      @mintnite 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      if i could reply with an image it would be spiderman pointing at himself

    • @cypher_2259
      @cypher_2259 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Samee

    • @cypher_2259
      @cypher_2259 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      So do I!!

  • @RhinoStew
    @RhinoStew 5 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    In all honesty, I am FLOORED and audibly Lol’d at certain moments. There’s so many fantastic components here, particularly how Charlie was supposed to be black which really adds an amazing grace note to the ending. I am deeply honored by this, and lord knows you probably went crazier making all of this than I did. I am so glad this level of thought and appreciation for this theory exists before the television show comes around and inevitably disappoints us
    You sir are NOT a shoe
    PS: I totally screwed up the timelines as many people pointed out. 2014 would have been the launch of CW-7 (which freezing warts is genius and I wish I thought of that) and the events of the movie would have been 20 years after so the characters would have been much older which I would like to remind the internet (ITS A GODDAM MOVIE... RELAX YO)
    PS: I am totally going to give this a shoutout tomorrow. And I LOVED the bonus material you assembled!!!

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Rhino Stew
      You made an awesome theory video, and now this one seems to confirm it further.
      I comment already, that I don't even care if it's intentional, because the films go together so wonderfully.
      Thanks for sharing this on your channel, as this video was really cool as well.

    • @NomadicKong
      @NomadicKong  5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thanks so much for writing here!
      Really glad you enjoyed it, means a lot to me, and HAT off to you for bringing the connection to light! :D
      Your video completely changed the way I saw the two movies, and had way too much fun exploring the theory - so cheers!!

    • @sm1115
      @sm1115 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rhino stew, you know how the girl w/the fur coat first was white after the incinerator it turned to a slightly more burnt colour hinting at something!?!??!

    • @scottfrye
      @scottfrye ปีที่แล้ว

      I forgot about this and some how ended up here again years later. I just ordered the movie on blu Ray to have forever. I may even buy the original. I should order the original. I should go to a hospital.

  • @derkaiser50
    @derkaiser50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I think the whole wonka piercer theory makes more sense with the 2005 reboot Charlie and the Chocolate Factory rather than the original

    • @alanmorales150
      @alanmorales150 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ooo you got a point

    • @derkaiser50
      @derkaiser50 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@jager9022 Well for one, look at the difference between the technology shown in the experimenting room, in the original movie, its kinda thrown together, looks like it was built by a mad man. While in the 2005 reboot, it looks more comparable to what we see in snowpiercer. Another thing to look at is the architecture of the factory, the original movie, is this brick building, looks like a Victorian factory. while the 2005 reboot factory has architecture that looks similar to that of the exterior of the train.

    • @headlight31
      @headlight31 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The color tone of the reboot fits with Snowpearser way better.

    • @RandomUserX99
      @RandomUserX99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@derkaiser50 the movie may have taken some inspiration from the reboot.

    • @niazshah320
      @niazshah320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      hell no, there are way too many left out scenes in the reboot that are significant to snow piercer

  • @KuroSlick
    @KuroSlick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    It's the "extinct small people" that solifies it for me, it's why they use kids to run the train

    • @DollySantana
      @DollySantana 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yea and wonka says oompa loomps come from warm climates

    • @KuroSlick
      @KuroSlick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DollySantana Yep, hopefully they solidify the theory one day!

  • @bobbyfett7450
    @bobbyfett7450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +278

    What if the technology Willy Wonka used to make the ice cream that never melts is the same technology that CW7 is?
    Idk how these would connect.
    Being different movies in all. But still would be fun

    • @enochchow4099
      @enochchow4099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I am convinced

    • @veretxnerd983
      @veretxnerd983 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Holy

    • @christhefish11
      @christhefish11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good catch 👍🏻

    • @willy-johndejager6810
      @willy-johndejager6810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ive seen that icecream theory on 3 different posts. 3 different people. that can mean that all arrived at that claim independantly. maby dis shit goes deeper.

  • @stewhv94
    @stewhv94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    The actual theory is that this is all just a fever dream Captain America had when he was still frozen.

  • @jessem3149
    @jessem3149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    If not a sequal, than at least a reimagined version of Charlie and the chocolate factory in a post apocalyptic setting
    I could easily believe both

  • @SDGFK
    @SDGFK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Can't believe we were recommended to watch the first video and now this video got recommended to everyone at the same time.

  • @lgolem09l
    @lgolem09l 5 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    What really gets me is the WORDING of that pivotal scene. "This piece of equipment has become extinct recently". Not broken, not unavailable, extinct, like a living organism.

    • @NomadicKong
      @NomadicKong  5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      There's another unusual bit of wording in the scene where Curtis and Wilford first meet. I didn't include it in the video, but Wilford says 'You are the first human being to have walked the total length of this train. Tail to engine' - Oompa Loompas are presumably a different species! ;)

    • @northernstar1127
      @northernstar1127 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NomadicKong Hopefully TNT will expand on it more sense they picked it up!

  • @fluxpistol3608
    @fluxpistol3608 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Plot twist, it’s not snow it’s icing sugar

  • @illwill1991
    @illwill1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    The end of snowpiercer is ambiguous but not that ambiguous. There's a reason you see a polar bear at the end and it's not to make you go "oohh they might get eaten by a polar bear!" No the point of the polar bear is simple. It's a living animal. It is an animal that is living and by the looks of it thriving in this environment that is supposed to be to cold for any animal to live in. That means the earth is warming and there is still hope for humanity.

    • @Vegas_Des
      @Vegas_Des 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL ppl think that ?

    • @TransoceanicOutreach
      @TransoceanicOutreach 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually the polar bear is a reference to Fox's Glacier Mints. You're welcome.

    • @heinrichvonschnitzel8600
      @heinrichvonschnitzel8600 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not a lot of hope though. Two children that know nothing about survival in a frozen world, Also the girl is addicted to drugs.

    • @illwill1991
      @illwill1991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@heinrichvonschnitzel8600 ok sure but I think your still thinking about it too specifically. Your still kinda missing the forest for the trees here. If there is a living polar bear, then I think it's fairly likely that there is a few small groups of humans living somewhere out there as well.

    • @heinrichvonschnitzel8600
      @heinrichvonschnitzel8600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@illwill1991 Perhaps humans could survive close to geothermal vents or hot springs. These two children though? they are on a snowy mountain so they are probably going to die.

  • @glaucous3215
    @glaucous3215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    The fact that this is recommended in June of 2020 makes me wonder if youtube is trying to tell us something and it makes me scared

    • @vnenus
      @vnenus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      right??

    • @myriamcastanedaromo6975
      @myriamcastanedaromo6975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes

    • @p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339
      @p.c.windhamparanormalroman4339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably because of the new Snowpiercer t.v. show that just came out. Nothing nefarious.

    • @kenetickups6146
      @kenetickups6146 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      trying to tell you to watch thr tv show
      lel

    • @cameron5202
      @cameron5202 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bill gates is suggesting now that we put aluminum in the atmosphere to reflect part of the sun, reducing climate change

  • @scrambled5948
    @scrambled5948 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    The similarities are so close that it's undeniable that the movie was at least heavily influenced by Willy Wonka

  • @wsdpii
    @wsdpii 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    My theory on CW7 is that Wilfred/Charlie was experimenting with an ice cream that wouldn't melt, then a government found out and tried to use it to reverse global warming

    • @x_ztg6462
      @x_ztg6462 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wsdpii hmm

    •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Duuuuuudeeeee

    • @michaelsullivan6734
      @michaelsullivan6734 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      wsdpii excellent thought, I never would’ve considered that bit.

    • @_2oo7
      @_2oo7 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn you might be right!

    • @JIMT412
      @JIMT412 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is... Not so out of the realm of possibilities. Many chemistry is involved in those kind of stuff.

  • @reddeadedits1623
    @reddeadedits1623 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Snowpeircer is literally the polar express mixed with Willy Wonka and the fallout games.

  • @Shutupcracker
    @Shutupcracker ปีที่แล้ว +34

    the ‘extinct’ part of the engine is the final nail in the coffin, it makes everything make sense, using extinct is so specific to living things mostly so that pretty much what i think closes this case

  • @dylanh1462
    @dylanh1462 5 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    youtube recommendations are crazy. first the rhino stew one than immediately this?! and the comments are all from a couple hours ago? youtube boolin

    • @bossnachose62
      @bossnachose62 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dylan Hendrick exactly what happened to me

    • @ur_stepbro8035
      @ur_stepbro8035 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes but it's more interesting that way

    • @neilangelomolleda7283
      @neilangelomolleda7283 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same wth

    • @jactrich
      @jactrich 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dylan Hendrick really because the two comments below yours are 4 and 5 months ago to your 2. If you meant a “couple” thousand between 1450-2200 hours then yes it was hours ago.

    • @phoebetakarua4737
      @phoebetakarua4737 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jactrich lmao your putting everyone in their place😂

  • @tvv1881
    @tvv1881 4 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    Hehehee *willy piercer*

    • @arturoarellano4710
      @arturoarellano4710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      TVv 1 lol

    • @JBazzle
      @JBazzle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Snow Willy

    • @ren.67
      @ren.67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What the fuck guys

    • @willy-johndejager6810
      @willy-johndejager6810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      haha. you guys sound like my highschool locker room

  • @harleyburdick2695
    @harleyburdick2695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Something I've never heard mentioned before but in Snowpiercer when they get to the school children car, there is a white kid wearing a black face mask complete with a bucket on his head.... Charlie Bucket was originally supposed to be black..🧠💥

    • @NomadicKong
      @NomadicKong  4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Great spot! Didn’t notice that - and interestingly, that kid with the black face mask and the bucket on the head is prominently in shot when Tanya says ‘Timmy’... Links up visually and verbally! 🤩

    • @harleyburdick2695
      @harleyburdick2695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wow! And the plot thickens further! Lol think I'm convinced

    • @NomadicKong
      @NomadicKong  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Haha, the more you look, the more you find!

  • @thebobbrom7176
    @thebobbrom7176 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    In 2063 we need to make a kids film that is secretly a sequel to Snowpiercer

    • @Ashley-qh8ud
      @Ashley-qh8ud 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The Adventures of Yona and Timmy

  • @TheAgentAssassin
    @TheAgentAssassin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    We have a wart remover in the USA called "Compound W"
    (C)ompound (W)
    And it commonly is sold in (7g) size.
    CW7

    • @robertledford4018
      @robertledford4018 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      LOL, Good one.

    • @MrMoon-pp8xv
      @MrMoon-pp8xv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Willy wonka was very knowledged in chemistry he was alwaysusing strange ways of making chemicals candy

  • @OnePunchJAB
    @OnePunchJAB 5 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    We are all chosen by the algorithm. Welcome.

    • @scottl875
      @scottl875 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The algorithim is merciful

    • @BlitzerXYZ
      @BlitzerXYZ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      We must provide the SACRIFICE

  • @darkfire8865
    @darkfire8865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    *SPOILERS*
    This theory is so famous that in the Snowpiercer series in season two Wilford has a Circus Car and it's called "Willy's World" and when wilford comes in the car he is dressed exactly like Willy Wonka lol. I think they probably wanted to reference it.

    • @spyczech
      @spyczech 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      theres a series?

  • @godchi1dvonsteuben770
    @godchi1dvonsteuben770 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Parts don't "go extinct" that line, alone PROVES the theory...

  • @jravell
    @jravell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    One guys is short? You think the walls look like chocolate bars? Something looks like a piece of an old scarf? None of this clinches it.
    But the music? That's significant. LEAD WITH THAT.

    • @joemcalister7105
      @joemcalister7105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I know right, and all he says is the notes are the same. ITS THE MELODY PLAYED BACKWARDS AND SPED UP!!!!!! Such a clear reference and a common way to reference tings through scoring

  • @stephenbuckley1383
    @stephenbuckley1383 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Ok everything was a stretch until the music part now I am convinced and my life is not the same.

  • @timmyfriday2718
    @timmyfriday2718 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    "Here's the scarf again when we first meet Wilfred"
    *Arrow pointing to random piece of clothing that isn't even the same colour

    • @eder7468
      @eder7468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You do realize color on clothing fades?, especially if they're half a century old

    • @lovelessdinosaur6650
      @lovelessdinosaur6650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@eder7468 tbf he does have a point
      even if the cloth's color wore off the patten of the scarf is completely different to the scarf given to Charlie.
      plus this guy has too farfetched points even to this theory such as
      ▪︎this guy is short = oompa loompa
      ▪︎the bucket = charlie bucket

    • @therealchosenone6339
      @therealchosenone6339 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought it was some sticks to idk

    • @danielzakgaim2764
      @danielzakgaim2764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also next to the scarf is a TOP HAT

  • @FrogEnjoyer17
    @FrogEnjoyer17 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    To Nr. 5, did you really mention the scarf but ignore the Top Hat that is sitting on it?

    • @bait5257
      @bait5257 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      😶😲😲

  • @c_user_chino
    @c_user_chino 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Imagine if it was called Willy-Piercer.
    I’d be scared as fuck...

    • @maryshaw3898
      @maryshaw3898 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      D.K this is very unappreciated. Great job.

  • @tygorton
    @tygorton ปีที่แล้ว +38

    At this point, I don't even care if it's the truth or not. It's real for me and it elevates both films.

  • @mrbongalong2788
    @mrbongalong2788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Wonka: Expected Charlie to live happily ever after.
    Charley: Freezes the world and created a train hell.

    • @alysonforan3007
      @alysonforan3007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lmao train hell

    • @sirpixel7945
      @sirpixel7945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wonka: You had one job Charlie! One job!

    • @JohnWick-qr4yc
      @JohnWick-qr4yc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You know what they say you either die a hero or love long enough to see yourself become the villain….

  • @thefellowshipreforged8901
    @thefellowshipreforged8901 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    People are ripping on this for being a stretch but i think this video does exactly what it's meant to. The original video gets the main points and this one fleshes it out with every possible connection even if some of them might not have been real intentional easter eggs. This video is for people who wanted to see more.

  • @sleezzzbag
    @sleezzzbag 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Did Willy Wonka give anyone else nightmares as a child? The boat scene had me shook for a couple days.

    • @welcometowatchmo6985
      @welcometowatchmo6985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That shit still got me shook

    • @wolfgangbuck841
      @wolfgangbuck841 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I hate the Loompa's to this very day. Creepy little b@stards kept me up some nights sick with fear.

    • @hayleyscomet3447
      @hayleyscomet3447 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Decuiron I mean the kid actors were scared to because they weren’t told about that scene being that way.

    • @ShirouBrando
      @ShirouBrando 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fuck that boat scene hell there's a dead guy in one of the shots

  • @graceless000
    @graceless000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    “A tunnel?”
    “Mhmm. A fucking long one.”
    XD Idk why that part makes me laugh.

  • @amedeoceccato7190
    @amedeoceccato7190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    All of this connections.. And I am "mmm". Then I realized we are talking about Bong Joon Ho and so "ok it's all true".

  • @notanonymous3976
    @notanonymous3976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    itd be funny if it was actually an official sequel. imagine all the kids excited to see a movie about candy and then getting this XD

  • @omegasynth2775
    @omegasynth2775 5 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Come with me...
    And you'll see...
    The last hope of human's salvation...
    On these tracks...
    We save our lives...
    From total annihilation...
    It begins...
    With an engine...
    Maybe some little intimidation...
    But know its all...
    For humanity's salvation...

    • @waldofound8212
      @waldofound8212 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Damn imagine Wilford/Charlie murmuring that as he’s making some candy or something.

    • @gravioly3166
      @gravioly3166 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@waldofound8212 ill pass thats way too disturbing

  • @tetrotany
    @tetrotany 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Did this just show up in everybody’s recommendation section or was it just me?

    • @diggity5249
      @diggity5249 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      wtf same

    • @johndoe3011
      @johndoe3011 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup same here.

    • @tetrotany
      @tetrotany 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let’s talk Sports yep i guess that’s why it popped up for me too

    • @mariogonzalez4928
      @mariogonzalez4928 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same

  • @jacobnash7127
    @jacobnash7127 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (movie) was based in the 70s and not '63.
    There is a scene with a peace symbol in chalk on a wall that Charlie walks past in a construction site / ally of sorts.
    That pushes your start of timeline 10 years back making the age difference less and makes the charaters right in line with each movie. No longer 90 but 80. It fits.

    • @aidenv6537
      @aidenv6537 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see you took notes on matt pat's new Willy Wonka video.

  • @jolopotassium5562
    @jolopotassium5562 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    TH-cam's Algorithm is scary sometimes. Rhinostews video yesterday and this today...

  • @impuves
    @impuves 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Looks like this was recommended to everyone just today.

    • @Garanex
      @Garanex 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      exactly

    • @Jewls2
      @Jewls2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup

  • @isabellac.8351
    @isabellac.8351 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    This video just appeared in everybody's recommended even though it came out a year ago

    • @gavinmead6776
      @gavinmead6776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      isabella tf yes

    • @l_VENDXTTA_l
      @l_VENDXTTA_l 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm mindblown by the theory, it's so reminiscent

    • @annabarr1304
      @annabarr1304 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup

    • @lexluthor5738
      @lexluthor5738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly lol

    • @christallh24
      @christallh24 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard NetFlix is doing their own version of Willy Wonka. They've even casted Daveed Diggs as Charlie. Maybe YT is giving NetFlix a good looking out.

  • @johnnyrotten200
    @johnnyrotten200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Look at what's on the scarf: Wonka's hat.

    • @carissagraft
      @carissagraft 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I though I was the only one who noticed that!

  • @a.j.flores3935
    @a.j.flores3935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    In Charlie and the Chocolate factory, I know that the kids represented the 7 deadly sin which was.... gluttony, greed, pride, lust, sloth, envy, and anger. Each kid represented 1 or more of these. So they could have a strong connection to the CW7 or the revolt of the 7.

  • @phnxen3rg666
    @phnxen3rg666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Maybe not a direct sequel, but certainly a hell of a tribute. And its an incredible accomplishment the Bong Joon-ho was able to sneak in all of those references and it took people over 5 years to realize it. He was probably waiting for someone to figure it out. Makes an amazing movie even more amazing.

  • @macross270
    @macross270 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    One thing I found at the tunnel part is that in Willy Wonka, it’s Veruca Salt that wants the boat to stop. And in Snowpiercer, it’s Minister Mason. Both these two characters are said to be the same figure. So…

  • @Ruenvale
    @Ruenvale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Should have gone with WillyPiercer

  • @bananabread3023
    @bananabread3023 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    youtube algorithm has once again delivered a gift

  • @gatlinschiele1738
    @gatlinschiele1738 5 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Too many coincidences to be coincidental. At minimum it was heavily inspired by Willy wonka, at most it is the perfect sequel for the children who grew up with the original. 10/10 should do 9/11 conspiracies next.

  • @StrawhatSiah007
    @StrawhatSiah007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    So everyone else got this and the original one back in their feed after 2 years?

  • @rileywalker5879
    @rileywalker5879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Why did it literally take a quarantine to make snow piercer pop off? This film is fucking fantastic

    • @elr4f436
      @elr4f436 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Riley Walker Wym since this movie came out its been a high praised movie.

    • @emma-hg1zg
      @emma-hg1zg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      elr4f4 not as high as it should be

    • @ninjaslayer9248
      @ninjaslayer9248 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have been wanting to watch it because of this theory. And I finally watched it on Netflix after waiting for months

  • @jaredlindblad5485
    @jaredlindblad5485 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    i just watched snowpeircer fir the first time, it came out 7 years ago, watched a theory that came out more than a year ago and all the comments are from this week, what the hell

    • @AlexanderBrinkman64
      @AlexanderBrinkman64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The mystery of algorithms.

    • @Looneyboy
      @Looneyboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao it was on private and he reenabled the vid ain’t too crazy

    • @jaredlindblad5485
      @jaredlindblad5485 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Looneyboy makes sense

  • @cslack813
    @cslack813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    You are doing some Olympic gold medal level asspulls here. Especially with that “scarf” hahahaha

  • @joechungus8967
    @joechungus8967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The funny thing is the time line matches

  • @odmblogs
    @odmblogs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Also not only the cabinets look like chocolate, but the whole room mirrors the beginning shot of Willy Wonka showing the CHOCOLATE BEING MADE, chocolate looking furniture, metal rods like those in an assembly line, melted chocolate as the floor, Wilfords apparel like a box of chocolates, the golden woman as the ticket like he mentioned, and it being the only part of the factory thats automated.

  • @astinjones3502
    @astinjones3502 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Also if you look on top of the scarf in Wilford’s room 5:04 you can see somthing that looks like a top hat

  • @pkbailz
    @pkbailz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The comment about Timmy made me realise when Wilford says to Curtis he's the first one to travel the full length of the train he straight up lies lol. All the kids do the journey.

    • @shiftygirl6434
      @shiftygirl6434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      true, but he made it by himself out of his own free will, as opposed to the kids, who were prisoners

  • @Angel-xe2de
    @Angel-xe2de 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That polar bear was the happy ending. Showing that life was indeed possible out there

  • @lexcyrose5376
    @lexcyrose5376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I watched the Rhino video and came right after, now I'm even more mindblowned... I'm 99.999% convinced these two movies are connected

  • @ot5216
    @ot5216 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Seems like everyone is getting this video and the Rhino Stew one in their recommended today lol

  • @TheTarrMan
    @TheTarrMan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Maybe Snowpiercer is a sequel to Willy Wonka but they couldn't get the rights so they had to be low-key about it.

    • @elishareynolds782
      @elishareynolds782 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly.

    • @davidgggames
      @davidgggames 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This theory isnt true at all.. maybe the director being a genius found these correlations and wanted to connect both stories. But Snow Piercer is a book of 3 books. There are 2 Snow Pierce continuation and world stories. They arent Willy Wonka at all. The author definitely didnt connect the stories but maybe the director wanted to.

  • @danteinhell2394
    @danteinhell2394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    nobody made connections between violet and the pregnant woman, but i think that the way violet's mom controls violets life, can represent this woman taking care of all the children

  • @tsarbucksthemighty4648
    @tsarbucksthemighty4648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    So, what do you like to watch in your free time?
    Me: it's complicated...

  • @ryduann
    @ryduann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    who else just got both in their recommended and just said "screw it yeah i'll watch that I got nothing else to do inside"

  • @carissagraft
    @carissagraft 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Me: *knows that snowpiercer was a comic that the authors who only trusted Bong Joon-Ho to show on screen.*
    Also me: I know for a fact that snowpiercer is a direct sequel to Charlie and the chocolate factory.

  • @lynnpehrson8826
    @lynnpehrson8826 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The music thing fully convinced me (i was more or less convinced before), there's absolutely no way that's an accident

  • @Storm-sx8wy
    @Storm-sx8wy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I hate that this makes sense! It has no business being this solid a theory!

  • @dereckkeilty1
    @dereckkeilty1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    You mentioned his scarf but you didn’t even point out the top hat that looks exactly like wonkas hat right behind the scarf on the shelf

  • @SlyYevon
    @SlyYevon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Something minor, but notice in the remake that it is constantly snowing, and the family huddles together as if the world is getting colder.

  • @saulfernandez9505
    @saulfernandez9505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Rhino Stew got me with the analysis of the scenes, you sir absolutely reaffirmed that with the analysis of the music

  • @gartoonanimation6002
    @gartoonanimation6002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Okay you got me on the music.. I saw the rhino vid before this one. The theory was fun and all, but now I’m fuckin sure dude. That’s just tooooo much of a coincidence.

    • @kellyscargill
      @kellyscargill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was the music in this vid and the kid sized spaces in the other that both got me 🤯

    • @laurencehoffelder1579
      @laurencehoffelder1579 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I unfortunately don't trust the music as evidence anymore, since the new Star Wars movies where Snoke shared the music theme with Darth Plagueis but as we all now that came to nothing. Not that this theory would ever become canon in the first place but it's still nice to discuss^^.

    • @makimaki6212
      @makimaki6212 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@laurencehoffelder1579 i mean- its still worth a shot. Star wars is one thing but thrs a lot of musical themes that are connected.

    • @aivreescend7945
      @aivreescend7945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@laurencehoffelder1579 i know that i'm replying to a year old comment but the star wars trilogy is known for it's haphazardness of smashing things together at the last second, so it might be something initially but got lost in the production and never addressed after that. It kind of a moot point.

  • @pugachan9928
    @pugachan9928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Yotube's algorithm is getting lit recently

  • @niamh5832
    @niamh5832 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    OMG Willy Wonka was released on my Dad's birthday and Snowpiercer was released on my birthday 😂😂😂

  • @swoodc
    @swoodc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    the 7 in CW7 (Charlie Wonka 7) stands for the 7 sins, which was displayed in willy wonka

    • @ieuanhunt552
      @ieuanhunt552 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      really all seven. let's run through them shall we.
      Lust: no evidence either way though he is presumably a bachelor
      Gluttony: he runs a chocolate factory so I guess he inspires this in others.
      Greed: he is a wealthy industrialist so he presumably hordes his gains to some extent.
      Sloth: This is one that he most definitely does not commit.
      Wrath: there are a few scenes where he's angry but does that really count.
      Envy: This is a difficult one for me to define but maybe he's envious of Charlie at times.
      Pride: Absolutely Wonka is one of the most egotistical prideful people in fiction.
      He commits two maybe three sins tops.

    • @TheSapphyre
      @TheSapphyre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ieuanhunt552 you're misunderstanding the theory. I just looked it up and it goes like this: Augustus Gloop is Gluttony, Violet Beauregard is Pride, Veruca Salt is Greed, Mike Teevee is Sloth, Charlie is Lust (for the golden ticket), Wonka is Wrath, and Grandpa Joe is envy. Take that for what you will

    • @theegreatawakening1937
      @theegreatawakening1937 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s not the one person that displayed the 7 sins. It was always different people displaying the 7 sins…like the big kid with no control (gluttony), the girl who had to be first (pride), etc
      So is this in snow piercer as we meet different characters

    • @RuiCBGLima
      @RuiCBGLima 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ieuanhunt552 Ahahaha Yes, I like the idea. But CW7 is from the original french comics "Le Transpercinage" (The Snowpiercer)

  • @fabiovitoriano5388
    @fabiovitoriano5388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Ok, but the song resemblances did give me the goosebumps

  • @umbryinite_3284
    @umbryinite_3284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    That bucket was there as a prop on purpose. I'm in a Film class and they teach us that everything in a shot is done on purpose and for a reason.

    • @chadd990
      @chadd990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and sometimes they're just there because they're there. You're not really that naive to believe every little prop always has a meaning? Just to prove the point, look up the Three Men and a Baby ghost.

  • @osver
    @osver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Pretty sure I’m not the only person to notice this, but the snow piercer tv show teaser plays pure imagination at the end. ‼️‼️‼️

    • @SkipaDaFlipa
      @SkipaDaFlipa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Osver Fernandez wait there’s a tv show?

    • @osver
      @osver 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      SkippaDaFlippa yeah it comes out in May I think

    • @Steve_in_NJ
      @Steve_in_NJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SkipaDaFlipa Not sure if April or May 2020 but pretty sure it will be on TNT.

    • @knox7945
      @knox7945 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/l75luJ5iyoA/w-d-xo.html
      It's kinda crazy that they've used Pure Imagination in the trailer.

  • @SuperCaioshin
    @SuperCaioshin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    People complaining this is conspiracy theory, c'mon, this is fucking movie, not real life, is it so hard for a director to pay homage to a classic movie? It's not like it defies logic...

    • @gump5ter01
      @gump5ter01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well said man. Some folk are just so precious. Gate keeping the meaning of a movie is just as pointless as PETA protesting captive fish in animal crossing. Makes no sense. Harms no one and is a waste of time

  • @darrenkyla3160
    @darrenkyla3160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    ...I’m guessing this just popped up in everyone’s recommended cuz this was made 2 years ago

  • @RhinoStew
    @RhinoStew 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    So... this is what kool aid tastes like.

  • @kevinjohnson7300
    @kevinjohnson7300 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Who else was blessed with this in the recommendations? I watched the first one awhile ago and just now saw this one

  • @kyte8131
    @kyte8131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    the original video by rhino stew was in my recommendations.. then i came and watched this.. both videos were made in 2018.. and we all watching it in June 2020.. not to mention that snowpiercer was released in 2013.. youtube is definitely hiding something... lol

    • @rorschach5652
      @rorschach5652 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      OMG!! You are the first one commenting this! Wow! Your originality is outstanding!! Bravo!

  • @esm82ify
    @esm82ify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It's funny you say this...I literally started singing "Pure Imagination" at the end of Snowpiercer long before I even heard this theory

  • @Erin-tg2wn
    @Erin-tg2wn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Bong Joon-ho confirmed that some time after Snowpiercer's end, humanity repopulates the world