"Are motorcycle racers basically insane? " " Well we do put flammable liquid inside a tank which is on top of a red hot engine. And we keep everything placed between our legs."
Yeah the whole point at the end really was the side by side by side finish. The "goals" were just kinda something fun to throw in there, that F1 car would have ran circles around the bike and the V8 if he was really really pushing it. That things acceleration and downforce is just insane. I couldn't imagine going around a corner at 285+ kph
@@troyheffernan1261 Hell, even a basic club racer or a superstock would be 3 to 5 seconds a lap faster than this bike. It was a street bike vs full on race cars.
Classic Racing Rules by FIA and pretty much all others. If the Leader passed the Line, all others Races are finished. And the placement is in Order, accounted for lapped cars which is placed behind nonlapped cars.
But of course....the F1 car is superior to anything else out there....."Formula One cars are the fastest road course racing cars in the world, owing to very high cornering speeds achieved through the generation of large amounts of aerodynamic downforce. Formula One cars race at speeds of up to approximately 380 km/h (240 mph) with engines currently limited in performance to a maximum of 15,000 RPM. The cars are capable of lateral acceleration in excess of five g in corners."
udmbfck x They don't race at 380 km/h. The speed record on a competition weekend is 372 km/h during the V10 era. 2016 cars got relatively close to that, though. About 365 km/h. Still, you're right about the corner speed.
it's not a comparison if you use a pratically stock bike with just a racing exhaust and slick tires. Even the supercar don't have a single thing from the stock one. Use a motogp bike next time ;)
Not saying I'd have anywhere near the skill to keep up with the bike in the supercar, but even if I did, I'd be terrified of accidentally using the rider as a speed bump or something. The slightest tap could send him off the track and into the morgue.
If you’re taking about his leg sticking out; it wasn’t a signal to pass. Riders stick their legs out when they’ve over leaned the bike in order to throw some weight on the other side and stabilize themselves.
I never at any point doubted the F1 car against the other two. Nothing against the Bike/Stoner or the Supercar/Whincup, but not only is the F1 car light, but it has the power to pull away from the other two and stay there. Smart to give Webber the challenge of lapping Stoner and Whincup. I was more curious about the battle between the Superbike and Supercar. Edit: It was clearly set up at the end to allow all 3 guy's to cross at the same time, honestly I don't even think Whincup was really pushing the Supercar even though I know those bikes are hella fast(what 205+ mph top speed I think when flat out?) and have crazy accelleration not to mention how little they weight compared to the Supercar
Too bad Stoner wasn't on a real GP bike! The F1 car would have still beaten Stoner, but the GP bike is the right tool for Stoner's profession (like the cars) and would have given the supercar proper competition.
+spacep0d At last we agree on something. (Remember the debate we had on one of your videos?) A proper GP bike would have given the Supercar and to some extent the F1 Car some good old ass whuppin!!! ;)
Niyas Yasin Yes of course, and thanks for pointing it out. I am sure we agree on a lot....but certain issues may have disagreements (even with some of my close friends).
***** You're right. F1 cars have much more grip, better aerodynamics and far better downforce. They have gobs of power and are still very light (power to weight ratio).
this is why it is sooo good that these are 3 seperate sports, i love f1 for different reasons that i love the moto gp, and vice versa. its cool to see how different they are on the same track, extremely different acceleration, handling, race lines etc
Foxy Moto You do realise that the F1 car wasn't even close to driving at max corner speed? A modern F1 car endure up to 4g in a corner without slipping. Can a motorcycle do that?
Important to note that the bike Stoner is using is a completely bone stock factory Honda Fireblade. You can walk into a Honda Dealership and buy that exact bike for road use. They should have put him on his Repsol GP bike. The other two machines are modified for track use only.
" not bad for a number two driver" Is one of the most badass things i have ever heard a F1 driver say. He was SO done with the Vettel favouring in that season.
Nah he wasnt , if anything he was overrated cause of the car he had , its like Bottas in Merc or Perez in RB atm. There was like 10 better drivers at the grid than him , RB just didnt wanted a competitive driver next to Vettel , just like now with Verstappen
Video is a testament to the quality of engineering that goes into making a f1 car. The ease with which you can turn at high speeds, the transfer of weight in the brakes... And so much more
That and Jamie was racing his old car, not the (then) new one. It had just come out of the spray booth prior to this outing: it was the old "TeamVodafone" Commodore, affectionally known as Kate.
Oh I know but it would still do far better than the sports bike . The only machine in the world that can beat a bike is an F1 vehicle which says a lot for the bike .
Just an FYI for those who either don't get it or are complaining about the race being "unfair": This actually isn't a race as much as it's a show. The challenge is for Mark to lap the other two over 5 laps, so they didn't need to pick the fastest bike out there. They just needed the three of them to do a photo finish by the end of the 5 laps with Mark having lapped them.
Yes Moto GP is fast, but f1 is just another league. For example at Sepang, pole for Moto GP was a 2:00:000, but for f1 it was a 1:32:000- 30 seconds a lap faster on the same track layout.
That's bull shit that they didn't give him his Moto GP bike. I'm a car guy for the most part but Top Gear really pisses me off with their bias against bikes.
John A what ever bike it is.. even its moto gp bike.... F1 car would have defeated it with ease :) Bikes can't defeat F1 casr either on a drag or on a track ... This is a Fact
So they could get the Redbull driver, Redbull cars, even the bloody Redbull F1 car, but not Casey's Honda RC213V MotoGP bike? Come on.. it would've been fun to see all 3 in all 3 prototype vehicles
that may be the case but with two cars geared up for racing vs an almost stock production bike. Does kinda seem a little bit unfair in all honesty. I would have thought they'd give him a race bike against race cars, just a thought
DoubleC its a good handling bike, but that fireblade is no where near is good as those other bikes, especially the r1. the new r1 has put itself on a new bar
even if you put the fastest Moto GP bike, it will still lose against F1 car, with a HUGE GAP.. I mean, come on we all know that F1 car is too much.. With the downforce, and the cornering ability,, simply nothing can beat them (unless you put a dragster vehicle, in a straight lane)
Top Gear should start reviewing more lesser known cars rather than always doing the well known "poster cars." Would be a nice challenge to see a smaller company versus larger. I'd personally like to see a review of the 'Falcon F7' :p
It's amazing to see just how dominant an F1 car is... Nothing even comes close to it! Would have been a more interesting race if the bike, super-car and the F1 were tuned up and actually running at their full potential (because they clearly weren't). Anyway, wouldn't mind seeing a race with the new turbo F1 2014 car...
It's all about the braking, downforce and the contact patches of the F1 car that makes it faster than a MotoGP bike. An F1 car can corner much more quickly than a MotoGP bike because of the downforce and the contact patch of the tires is many times larger.
I agree with you on that. In fact most of the guys who commented here about MotoGP bikes winning agree that the F1 Car would still be the first but the Supercar's lap time would be way too slow.
@AYE OK SURE Mate what are you on about? A Blancpain car is faster than a British super bike around brand's hatch, a GT3 car is faster around Silverstone than a moto GP bike and there are several production car's that spank a bike around the nurburgring. That's just naming 3 track's. Put hyper car's around those track's and it would be the same result. Maybe you do some research about lap times before commenting. A bike is quick but a car is quicker around most track's! BTW a F1 car is 40 seconds quicker than a GP bike not 10-20.
@@TypeRTeg That’s not true for all tracks as on Mugello a purchasable Ducati can get a 1:52 while a Mclaren 675LT, a car costing twice as much, got a 2:04.
AG Coarseman I know that an F1 car is faster, but in any case we all agree tht that race was ufair. The other 2 drivers were driving their own race cars, but Stoner was riding a stock bike.
looking at the f1 and the sound it makes when the driver breaks coming into the curve, it's like a beast pacing itself just waiting for the end of the curve when the gas pedal gets smashed in and it takes off with that engine at full blast. .....music to my ears. ....!
+Niyas Yasin You were watching a top gear episode, offcourse it was biased and unfair. Thing is they make it funny and interesting, not real and statistically correct.
Are you joking me ? That was an OEM CBR1000RR with 190HP hardly fair .. Put Casey on a FULL 240 RWHP GP BIKE. Neither car was street legal the bike is a street legal CBR outfitted for the track. SMH. H.T.V. Blu your thoughts ?
I struggle to see the point really. If anything all this shows is whay an amazing thing a motorcycle is. Despite the fact this is a demonstration really not a race, the fact that a street legal, standard Fireblade has the measure of a V8 race car says much about the value of motorcycles. Still, if they wanted a comparison, surely it should've been the MotoGP machine?
But if we must compare then either F1 v MotoGP or 165hp car v fireblade or £12k Ford v this motorcycle. Any which way you rub it - price, horsepower or 'ultimate' the bike wins in reality. As I said above, all this shows is just how good a standard £12k bike is - they need a multi million pound car and team of technicians to _just_ beat it!
H.T.V. Blu The reason cars are more expensive is because they cost a shit ton more to make (more materials, more manufacturing time, more design time) I'd also like to point out that if the V8 had started in front the bike would never have got past. You could see from the onboard that Whincup was having to ease off behind the bike so he didn't just plough into the back of Stoner. Cars are naturally faster around corners, because the weight is in the middle of the two sets of wheels. On a bike, you only have one set of wheels and the mass of the rider isn't anywhere near being above them when cornering. You see this on the Nurburgring a lot - a fast hatchback will corner faster than a road going superbike around any track, so they get held up by bikers who don't bother checking their mirrors because they think they are the fastest things on the road. Bikes are fast in a straight line, cars are fast around corners.
Haha, that's cute. Indeed the Chiron would run a higher top speed than a F1 car. They tried it on the Circuit de la Sarthe, and it did run faster than the LMP cars. But seriously, even the Veyron runs a higher top speed. But as soon as the first corner comes up, the F1 car blows both out of the water. The weight of a Bugatti engine alone weighs as much as the entire F1 car.
Why could anybody even compare MotoGP to F1 or even cars to motorcycles in general? I love both, but I will say it takes more balls to race a bike then a car.
I think rallying takes more balls to be honest, GP and F1 require super reflexes but the trucks nowadays are mostly safe, and crushes happen daily in that world and most of the time are harmful. A rally truck is rougher, if you crash there you may be falling off a mountain or a cliff, or hugging a tree. If i was given the chance to drive a gp bike or a F1 car I would try, no way I'm driving a rally car in a rally truck, you delay your braking one half of a second and you're not out of the track, you're out of existence.
A motogp bike would wreck the v8 supercar, but wouldn't even come close to an F1 car. The fastest lap in 2013 motogp at laguna seca was 1:21.176 The lap record at laguna seca was set by a formula 1 car at 1:05.786 That's 15 seconds faster.
You Guys, who think a bike or any other car can come close to a F1 Car! Have to be insane. You obviously don't understand the Dynamics!!!. The bike cannot put down full power on the track because the front wheel will lift off the ground, the bike can't brake as late as a F1 Car, bike can't corner as quick as a F1, neither any other car. F1 is in a class by itself...
are moto gp bikes really that faster than this bike, the supercar is much faster in the corners than any bike i think, the F1 car is in a class of it's own
This is obviously a staged event with a predefined script. Having said that I do recognize that the F1 would have most likely been the winner in "real race". However, it is unfortunate that Stoner came to a gun battle with an off the shelf knife. Had he been provided a Motogp bike he would have been lighter, would have had considerable more grip thanks to state of the art electronics which would have allowed for more acceleration, braking and lean - and would have had in the area of another 90hp. Still believe the F1 would win, but this fun little clip is a bit disappointing to us bike fans because it was so lop sided with a show room bike.
However, it demonstrated that the stock bike was quicker than the V8 Supercar in a straight line. It was a scripted event so it didn't demonstrate real potential of any of the vehicles except that the F1 was massively quicker on a circuit.
***** You don't get it do you? Put your ignorance to the side for a second,obviously the F1 won there's no doubt there,but you put a supercar AND F1 against a road bike..stock with only exhaust mods.Let the bike be a SBK or MotoGP where they average 250-280 hp WITH LESS WEIGHT.Should be embarrassing that a full out race car barely beat a street legal vehicle.
F1 would still beat a superbike, or any bike for that matter, cars can transfer weight and F1's generate incredible ammounts of downforce = faster cornering. F1's can pull 4G in corners, and have a power to weight ratio of about 1.17BHP/1Kg A MotoGP bike is faster in accerelation tough, but only to a certain speed, and than the F1 will beat the moto GP in speed too. Moto GP is harder tough.
***** yes professor thanks for the science lesson in thinking i am a moron, a GP bike bike out performs a F1 car on straights by a lot, which is why they did not use one. A motoGP bike reaches over 350km/h down a long straight where as an f1 car can only reach 300kmh and it takes longer for it to get there.
"Are motorcycle racers basically insane? "
" Well we do put flammable liquid inside a tank which is on top of a red hot engine. And we keep everything placed between our legs."
Yeah we do lol
LucklessCope Well we can't fall out that easily,RIGHT????
Nailed it
Nah we’re completely normal
Breezy Mods eh, if you want something hard do a harescramble
Drivers: *Enter a straight*
F1 driver: *Laughs in 18.000 rpm*
drivers: enter a corner
f1 driver: laughs in downforce
same as any moto gp bike xd
@@aterol4267 nah, f1 dominates corners due to extreme aero advancement and tyre tech
@@hishaamabbasi5570 he's talking about the straight!
@@renofumi28 are you dumb or blind?
Man I miss that unreal screaming F1 engines ...
Stryke I
Me too... when they had the liberty to the “what they wanted” with the engine
@@ProudMurican_PVT-GR137 now they are going ECO hahahaha
or going 100000 ft in the air
@Guybrush Threepwood It's bad for the environment.
The first part of the race where they are all going full out truly shows how crazy fast the F1 cars are.
Lol Webber looks like he's trying to go slow at the end.
Ryan Godfrey He did go slower. The F1 car was jus so much quicker.
Ryan Godfrey
Ryan Godfrey I'm pretty sure he was so they could have a nice three way finish.
Yeah the whole point at the end really was the side by side by side finish. The "goals" were just kinda something fun to throw in there, that F1 car would have ran circles around the bike and the V8 if he was really really pushing it. That things acceleration and downforce is just insane. I couldn't imagine going around a corner at 285+ kph
the force feedback is amazing (hurt)
My favorite part about this entire thing is that that the entire bike and setup cost about $18,000 USD
Right😂 I own a r1 and I spent 7000 and I have these charger owners who spend 30k on a car and they think they can beat me its mind blowing.
Yeah true
Where's the moto gp bike
@@troyheffernan1261 Hell, even a basic club racer or a superstock would be 3 to 5 seconds a lap faster than this bike. It was a street bike vs full on race cars.
@@johnulmerRacing you nailed it. I'm retired WERA and AMA
@@johnulmerRacing I raced supersport superbike supersport and Grand Prix unlimited.
No sound more beautiful than the sound of an F1 engine. Especially a 90's era F1 engine.
'90s
You do know that in the 90's the teams had V6's, V8's, V10's, and V12's, right? They each sounded completely different.
Early 2000’s were best
@@gordonk9001 V6 Engines back then sounded really good,not like now
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The race car and motorbike didn't even finish, they still had one more lap to do
Classic Racing Rules by FIA and pretty much all others. If the Leader passed the Line, all others Races are finished. And the placement is in Order, accounted for lapped cars which is placed behind nonlapped cars.
Mohammed Jawid race is over when leader passes the line
Shen Long who said they were racing FIA rules?
No shit
I thought they had cut one out
Mark webber being the nice guy he is slowed down in the last lap so that he didnt lap them and they could all sort of finish together
they both did, it was a very picturesque finish that was fun to see.
It looks so scripted when all three pass the line at once...
That anticlimax when it's announced "Look at the difference in acceleration!" .. and nothing happens.
Max Lindner yes, that's because they passed the line at once on purpose lol. Clearly.
But of course....the F1 car is superior to anything else out there....."Formula One cars are the fastest road course racing cars in the world, owing to very high cornering speeds achieved through the generation of large amounts of aerodynamic downforce. Formula One cars race at speeds of up to approximately 380 km/h (240 mph) with engines currently limited in performance to a maximum of 15,000 RPM. The cars are capable of lateral acceleration in excess of five g in corners."
udmbfck x They don't race at 380 km/h. The speed record on a competition weekend is 372 km/h during the V10 era. 2016 cars got relatively close to that, though. About 365 km/h. Still, you're right about the corner speed.
Bottas reached 372.5 in mexico 2016
it's not a comparison if you use a pratically stock bike with just a racing exhaust and slick tires. Even the supercar don't have a single thing from the stock one. Use a motogp bike next time ;)
it was
the gp bikes are baisd on it though
No, only sbk are based on stock bikes. Moto gp are prototipes, new bikes only made for racing.
i agree but they are still far from a f1 car
yes, for sure. But if they really want a real comparison they should have used a motogp. I think that a Motogp would easily win on a supercar
Next up: snail vs. space shuttle.
Lmao
Space shuttle does lap of the world while snail does 600m straight
Ventri let’s be crazy, one 90° turn for the snail
Ventri in the time it takes for a space shuttle to lap world, i don’t think a snail can even go 10 meters
Nothing beats f1 on a track
Considering that bike's start, that F1 car overtaking like that on the first corner was borderline disgusting lol
Not saying I'd have anywhere near the skill to keep up with the bike in the supercar, but even if I did, I'd be terrified of accidentally using the rider as a speed bump or something. The slightest tap could send him off the track and into the morgue.
Their protective gear is insane. Unless the car actually launched forward and ran over the bike, the rider would probably be fine.
Yeah, you clearly see that he gave him tons of space. This is a show after all, not a competition.
Why didnt they give him a gp bike ??
This! The bike looks very Stock...
probably cause it wouldent have been a fair fight
That new BMW HP or H something would kill it. Did u c dude from 44teeth just try it? He say best bike ever.
Dude...even moto gp bikes are around 30 seconds slower than f1 car in track like barcelona
Because the bike would still get smoked.
Surprised Webbers car made the distance without breaking down....
PomsFTW87 LMAOO
PomsFTW87 oh mate
El Salvador I think it means for the win
Multi 21 seb
Hahaha good one
4:35 love how they filmed him giving the signal to pass and didnt even react to it, so they could have a photo finish
If you’re taking about his leg sticking out; it wasn’t a signal to pass. Riders stick their legs out when they’ve over leaned the bike in order to throw some weight on the other side and stabilize themselves.
Hahaha noooo. Hes just trying to balance a 2-wheeled machine, man.
Just goes to show Casey's skills. Doing pretty well on a $20,000 ride-away stock bike.
I was gonna say why is he not on a comp motogp bike???
I never at any point doubted the F1 car against the other two. Nothing against the Bike/Stoner or the Supercar/Whincup, but not only is the F1 car light, but it has the power to pull away from the other two and stay there. Smart to give Webber the challenge of lapping Stoner and Whincup. I was more curious about the battle between the Superbike and Supercar.
Edit: It was clearly set up at the end to allow all 3 guy's to cross at the same time, honestly I don't even think Whincup was really pushing the Supercar even though I know those bikes are hella fast(what 205+ mph top speed I think when flat out?) and have crazy accelleration not to mention how little they weight compared to the Supercar
Mark Webber in the 2011 Red Bull RB7 F1 car wasn't even pushing either, not at all. That was literally formation lap speed.
But even if it looks like all 3 crossed at the same time, the V8 won by a nosehair
Too bad Stoner wasn't on a real GP bike! The F1 car would have still beaten Stoner, but the GP bike is the right tool for Stoner's profession (like the cars) and would have given the supercar proper competition.
+spacep0d At last we agree on something. (Remember the debate we had on one of your videos?)
A proper GP bike would have given the Supercar and to some extent the F1 Car some good old ass whuppin!!!
;)
Niyas Yasin Yes of course, and thanks for pointing it out. I am sure we agree on a lot....but certain issues may have disagreements (even with some of my close friends).
+spacep0d Lol. I miss your videos. Can I resubscribe to your channel?
+spacep0d I would also like to message you in private about a matter. Pls give me your contact info.
*****
You're right. F1 cars have much more grip, better aerodynamics and far better downforce. They have gobs of power and are still very light (power to weight ratio).
Formula 1 cars are such magnificent machines
Why are you using the profile picture of Gerry Alanguilan?
So are motogp bikes
I miss Casey so much. No where near the titles of Marc or Valentino but he had incredible skill and was fun to watch. Crazy Aussie
this is why it is sooo good that these are 3 seperate sports, i love f1 for different reasons that i love the moto gp, and vice versa. its cool to see how different they are on the same track, extremely different acceleration, handling, race lines etc
1:50 - What I learned here is that a bike which I can buy right now at my local dealer will absolutely destroy an F1 car away from the lights, sweet!
Foxy Moto Vai sonhando!!!
Euclides José Carneiro da Cunha Just watch the video, Apu.
Foxy Moto From the lights for sure, but getting lapped at a 5 laps race...sheit
Foxy Moto You do realise that the F1 car wasn't even close to driving at max corner speed? A modern F1 car endure up to 4g in a corner without slipping. Can a motorcycle do that?
Foxy Moto depends on how long the road is from the lights
Important to note that the bike Stoner is using is a completely bone stock factory Honda Fireblade. You can walk into a Honda Dealership and buy that exact bike for road use. They should have put him on his Repsol GP bike. The other two machines are modified for track use only.
Mark webber was one of the most underrated drivers in the last decade
" not bad for a number two driver" Is one of the most badass things i have ever heard a F1 driver say. He was SO done with the Vettel favouring in that season.
My favourite other than the goat
Nah he wasnt , if anything he was overrated cause of the car he had , its like Bottas in Merc or Perez in RB atm.
There was like 10 better drivers at the grid than him , RB just didnt wanted a competitive driver next to Vettel , just like now with Verstappen
Something tells me that race was very well planned...
Stock bike versus two purpose-built race cars... GREAT test. :/
The f1 car would easily beat a Moto GP bike anyway
***** Then why complain about it? No bike would ever have a chance so what does it really matter what kind of bike it is? They're all lose
+Hugo Stiglitz do some research before you comment such crap
@@piotrek32111 Even if casey rides h2r he won't win cuz it ain't a drag race, it's a track race.
@@jackscatchard1059 Possibly as car has 4 wheels and advantage on corners.
Yes while a car can win on a track in the real world a vespa is faster than a Lamborghini. Why? Because Lamborghinis get stuck in traffic.
*****
Yes, because vespas can go 180kmh
+peacefulltoucan They can..
+aidsjah yes they can.. ive seen it with my eyes.. ive also get smoked by those vespa.. the old one.. 150cc 2stroke... very fast.. :)
Naqib Nadzri loose kuthi
yes i lost to a very powerful vespa.. haha
Video is a testament to the quality of engineering that goes into making a f1 car. The ease with which you can turn at high speeds, the transfer of weight in the brakes... And so much more
I Really miss that F1 sound... that is just amazing!
Give him a fully loaded, track ready GP bike the next time
wont matter he will still get lapped by the F1. Bikes cant bend turns at 150 like F1 they turn too much and they fall. GG
@@DonttxPanic true
@@DonttxPanic well at least motogp is more fun to watch than F1 these days...
@@Kittysune12 U must have missed Monaco 2 weeks ago lmao.
@@DonttxPanic i thought monaco is always boring one ? like this year monaco nothing much happened
I'm very surprised with how well the Holden started off the line and could keep up with the RBR for a few meters. Didn't expect that.
GREAT ACTION, THE AUDIENCE DESERVED THIS AMAZING SHOW.
BIG THANKS TO THE 3 DRIVERS.
😎💥💥💥👊
5:21 This is the favorite moment.
Both Winner (f1) & loser (NASCAR) are celebrating the end of the end doing same Burnout!
*RACE* car vs *RACE* car vs *ROAD* bike.
Give Casey his old RCV213V #MotoGP bike for a proper test.
Tke the new hp4 race... Even more insane bike with 215 hp and a weight of 170 kilo
red bull F1 driven by david coulhard overlapped hp4 (guy martin) as well
Stoner never rode the RC213V, he had the RC212V
Formula 1 is not a car.
British Legender every car’s engine technology is taken from F1 engine. So how can u said F1 is not a car?
Loved the race. Doesn't matter if it wasn't a factory bike, still felt damn good to see Casey on his bike. We miss u at moto gp Casey
5:16
In memory to the greatest F1 history drivers that gave thier lives living under an F1 engine sound
Race:
1st place - F1
2nd Place - V8 Supercar
3rd Place - Bike
Burnout Comp:
1st Place - V8 Supercar
2nd Place - F1
3rd Place - Bike
Give Stoner a real MotoGP bike!
it wouldnt be any different
I agree with you. The F1 car is a beast. But it would have been a great race between him and the supercar
That and Jamie was racing his old car, not the (then) new one. It had just come out of the spray booth prior to this outing: it was the old "TeamVodafone" Commodore, affectionally known as Kate.
That was pretty epic.
NOT A GP BIKE . Do it fair - oh wait Top Gear is about cars .
it wouldn't be fair with a gp bike, the f1 would destroy the gp which would destroy the car, this was a fair race
No it's not . It's a sports bike . Get your facts right before commenting idiot .
Yeah, but still it couldn't defeat F1 car
Oh I know but it would still do far better than the sports bike .
The only machine in the world that can beat a bike is an F1 vehicle which says a lot for the bike .
nah probably many of the higher tier open wheelers could. but the bike is still a monster. i cant believe how far street bikes have come.
Just an FYI for those who either don't get it or are complaining about the race being "unfair":
This actually isn't a race as much as it's a show. The challenge is for Mark to lap the other two over 5 laps, so they didn't need to pick the fastest bike out there. They just needed the three of them to do a photo finish by the end of the 5 laps with Mark having lapped them.
Yes Moto GP is fast, but f1 is just another league. For example at Sepang, pole for Moto GP was a 2:00:000, but for f1 it was a 1:32:000- 30 seconds a lap faster on the same track layout.
The f1 drifting smoke : 9 11 incident💯
The other car : a house on fire🔥
The motorcycle : a cigarette smoke 😂🤭
Lmaooo
@@christianbastida3410 😂
But sadly bikes is faster than any f1😭
Not a GP bike, but still fun to watch. I enjoyed this.
This is bloody great, I'd love to see more of this kind of stuff please.
That's bull shit that they didn't give him his Moto GP bike. I'm a car guy for the most part but Top Gear really pisses me off with their bias against bikes.
John A
you see here
/watch?v=h8OR-c57SMU
and the motogp scooter gets wacked as expected, F1 rules!
Agreed
It may not be as simple as that, they may not have been able to find anyone willing to lend them a moto gp bike
John A what ever bike it is.. even its moto gp bike.... F1 car would have defeated it with ease :) Bikes can't defeat F1 casr either on a drag or on a track ... This is a Fact
Strider Sky but the bike would lose with more pride
Them going over the line together was the real "We race as one".
So they could get the Redbull driver, Redbull cars, even the bloody Redbull F1 car, but not Casey's Honda RC213V MotoGP bike? Come on.. it would've been fun to see all 3 in all 3 prototype vehicles
Why a Fireblade? Why not use something like a R1, BMW 1000rr or a Panigale something
or a motogp bike would be a fairer comparison
Because in stock form the Fireblade is maybe better than all those you listed?
If you saw any of the Superstock races you would realise how wrong that is lol... They should have give him his RCV-213 or now the Desmo :p
that may be the case but with two cars geared up for racing vs an almost stock production bike. Does kinda seem a little bit unfair in all honesty. I would have thought they'd give him a race bike against race cars, just a thought
DoubleC its a good handling bike, but that fireblade is no where near is good as those other bikes, especially the r1. the new r1 has put itself on a new bar
2 Race cars againts a production bike. so fair
well judging by the end result it was a fair race
Naufal Irsyad the F1 would have dominated anyways
plus...the slowest superbike,cbr1krr is my favorite but THE SLOWEST
even if you put the fastest Moto GP bike, it will still lose against F1 car, with a HUGE GAP.. I mean, come on we all know that F1 car is too much.. With the downforce, and the cornering ability,, simply nothing can beat them (unless you put a dragster vehicle, in a straight lane)
F1 completed 5 laps faster than the bike & v8 supercar completed 4 laps. I think it’s fair enough
This is basically Project Gotham in real life. Totally awesome. :)
I like how chilled out aussies are
super car and f1: doing donuts
Motorbike: -_-
That was pretty incredible and very fun to watch! Thanks for posting this! =)
Top Gear should start reviewing more lesser known cars rather than always doing the well known "poster cars." Would be a nice challenge to see a smaller company versus larger. I'd personally like to see a review of the 'Falcon F7' :p
welp Top gear died
This is majestic AF!!!
It's amazing to see just how dominant an F1 car is... Nothing even comes close to it!
Would have been a more interesting race if the bike, super-car and the F1 were tuned up and actually running at their full potential (because they clearly weren't).
Anyway, wouldn't mind seeing a race with the new turbo F1 2014 car...
I'm smiling from ear to ear watching this
It's all about the braking, downforce and the contact patches of the F1 car that makes it faster than a MotoGP bike. An F1 car can corner much more quickly than a MotoGP bike because of the downforce and the contact patch of the tires is many times larger.
I agree with you on that. In fact most of the guys who commented here about MotoGP bikes winning agree that the F1 Car would still be the first but the Supercar's lap time would be way too slow.
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@AYE OK SURE Mate what are you on about? A Blancpain car is faster than a British super bike around brand's hatch, a GT3 car is faster around Silverstone than a moto GP bike and there are several production car's that spank a bike around the nurburgring. That's just naming 3 track's. Put hyper car's around those track's and it would be the same result. Maybe you do some research about lap times before commenting. A bike is quick but a car is quicker around most track's! BTW a F1 car is 40 seconds quicker than a GP bike not 10-20.
@@TypeRTeg That’s not true for all tracks as on Mugello a purchasable Ducati can get a 1:52 while a Mclaren 675LT, a car costing twice as much, got a 2:04.
@@TypeRTeg Also bikes haven’t been ridden around the Nurburgring in ages.
Thats just a standard superbike, not a GP bike. A GP bike is pushing 250bhp.
+Sam Grattan
and is much lighter... ;)
+AG Coarseman I know the bike will lose against a F1 car, however it seems a tad biased to put a F1 car against a road going bike.
AG Coarseman
I know that an F1 car is faster, but in any case we all agree tht that race was ufair. The other 2 drivers were driving their own race cars, but Stoner was riding a stock bike.
+AG Coarseman
A fast road bike vs the ariel atom 500 would be interesting imo.
+Sam Grattan the bias wasnt their concern. the race was for entertainment
Actually the F1 car could have easily doubled the other two...that's how impressive those machines are
2021 : Honda RC213V and Marc Marquez.
looking at the f1 and the sound it makes when the driver breaks coming into the curve, it's like a beast pacing itself just waiting for the end of the curve when the gas pedal gets smashed in and it takes off with that engine at full blast. .....music to my ears. ....!
this was actually an awesome video
Nope. It was biased and unfair.
+Niyas Yasin You were watching a top gear episode, offcourse it was biased and unfair. Thing is they make it funny and interesting, not real and statistically correct.
Casey wasn't even on a MotoGP bike, he was on a bike that i could walk down to my local dealership and buy, nowhere near a MotoGP bike
yes cause motogp got like 260hp compared to that street legal bike.
H2R has 300+ hp
@@kangarojack3814 no one asked? and out of context?
It would make very little difference to the f1 car, even if the bike was a moto gp bike.
@@barrysargent1213 but it would smoke the other one.
Lets have 2 production cars vs a motogp bike next time.
And all we need is ken blocks V8 Mustang!
Every single fly by Webber pulls is just pure eargasm!
The unreal scream of that f1 car
Are you joking me ? That was an OEM CBR1000RR with 190HP hardly fair .. Put Casey on a FULL 240 RWHP GP BIKE. Neither car was street legal the bike is a street legal CBR outfitted for the track. SMH. H.T.V. Blu your thoughts ?
I struggle to see the point really. If anything all this shows is whay an amazing thing a motorcycle is. Despite the fact this is a demonstration really not a race, the fact that a street legal, standard Fireblade has the measure of a V8 race car says much about the value of motorcycles. Still, if they wanted a comparison, surely it should've been the MotoGP machine?
See as said before above ^^
But if we must compare then either F1 v MotoGP or 165hp car v fireblade or £12k Ford v this motorcycle.
Any which way you rub it - price, horsepower or 'ultimate' the bike wins in reality.
As I said above, all this shows is just how good a standard £12k bike is - they need a multi million pound car and team of technicians to _just_ beat it!
H.T.V. Blu The reason cars are more expensive is because they cost a shit ton more to make (more materials, more manufacturing time, more design time)
I'd also like to point out that if the V8 had started in front the bike would never have got past. You could see from the onboard that Whincup was having to ease off behind the bike so he didn't just plough into the back of Stoner. Cars are naturally faster around corners, because the weight is in the middle of the two sets of wheels. On a bike, you only have one set of wheels and the mass of the rider isn't anywhere near being above them when cornering. You see this on the Nurburgring a lot - a fast hatchback will corner faster than a road going superbike around any track, so they get held up by bikers who don't bother checking their mirrors because they think they are the fastest things on the road.
Bikes are fast in a straight line, cars are fast around corners.
Ever heard about isle of man?
come-on you can't beat a F1 car by any other car or bike except a fighter plane....🤔
Fighter plane doesn't have enough downforce...
that's the nascar not supercar
I could out run the F1 😉😂😂
Haha, that's cute. Indeed the Chiron would run a higher top speed than a F1 car. They tried it on the Circuit de la Sarthe, and it did run faster than the LMP cars. But seriously, even the Veyron runs a higher top speed.
But as soon as the first corner comes up, the F1 car blows both out of the water. The weight of a Bugatti engine alone weighs as much as the entire F1 car.
@cern iter you are either trolling or have no idea what you are talking about...
Man this looks like it was great fun. I never knew just how quick F1 cars were compared to other cars.
And the F1 car wasn't even going full throttle
Yeah, a recommanded 6 years old video.
Love it.
Why could anybody even compare MotoGP to F1 or even cars to motorcycles in general? I love both, but I will say it takes more balls to race a bike then a car.
I think rallying takes more balls to be honest, GP and F1 require super reflexes but the trucks nowadays are mostly safe, and crushes happen daily in that world and most of the time are harmful. A rally truck is rougher, if you crash there you may be falling off a mountain or a cliff, or hugging a tree. If i was given the chance to drive a gp bike or a F1 car I would try, no way I'm driving a rally car in a rally truck, you delay your braking one half of a second and you're not out of the track, you're out of existence.
Give Stoner a MotoGP bike and this would be a different story. The F1 would still crush of course, but that ol' V8 might not do so well :)
As long as it's a straight line MotoGP crushes F1 all day
960 HP/ton vs 450 HP/ton vs 1168 HP/ton :P
That's not a supercar.. that's like a sedan
Look up the series "V8 Supercars"
that finishing line was just legendary!
is that just a road bike that is covered in stickers?
Yes
Dave Meese yes
its a road bike wow how fast is that off the line !
Facts , he should’ve been in a gp bike 🏍
Put him on a Ducati MotoGP bike...he would destroy the car and keep up with the F1.
A Ducati Gp bike can't even beat other MotoGP bikes. What makes you think it will keep up with an F1 car?
ONLY casey stoner won the world champ with Ducati....
A motogp bike would wreck the v8 supercar, but wouldn't even come close to an F1 car.
The fastest lap in 2013 motogp at laguna seca was 1:21.176
The lap record at laguna seca was set by a formula 1 car at 1:05.786
That's 15 seconds faster.
Are you stupid? a moto GP would get lapped too. F1 cars make any bike look like a joke
You Guys, who think a bike or any other car can come close to a F1 Car! Have to be insane. You obviously don't understand the Dynamics!!!. The bike cannot put down full power on the track because the front wheel will lift off the ground, the bike can't brake as late as a F1 Car, bike can't corner as quick as a F1, neither any other car. F1 is in a class by itself...
What if webber suddenly hears box in his radio lmao
1:51 that honestly makes me curious how the current hybrid F1 cars could match that bike's acceleration from a stand still, like in this video.
are moto gp bikes really that faster than this bike, the supercar is much faster in the corners than any bike i think, the F1 car is in a class of it's own
The bike that Stoner used in the video has 190hp at 198kg.
To put it in perspective, the Honda RC213V MotoGP bike is ~160kg and pumps out over 230hp.
Where's Stoners MotoGP bike ?
F1 car vs a heavily modified / tuned racing car vs a 20.000$ stock street bike. Well seems fair to me XD
Bad news!
What?
We've ordered too many wheels, what are we gonna do with all these?
Oh no, anyway I started spinning.
That race was not fair, there's one car missing two wheels
This is obviously a staged event with a predefined script. Having said that I do recognize that the F1 would have most likely been the winner in "real race". However, it is unfortunate that Stoner came to a gun battle with an off the shelf knife. Had he been provided a Motogp bike he would have been lighter, would have had considerable more grip thanks to state of the art electronics which would have allowed for more acceleration, braking and lean - and would have had in the area of another 90hp. Still believe the F1 would win, but this fun little clip is a bit disappointing to us bike fans because it was so lop sided with a show room bike.
Agreed... the F1 car wouldnt have been able to overlap him if he had a motogp bike, but I think it would've still won by about 10 seconds
Dont cry because your stupid bike lost.
However, it demonstrated that the stock bike was quicker than the V8 Supercar in a straight line. It was a scripted event so it didn't demonstrate real potential of any of the vehicles except that the F1 was massively quicker on a circuit.
***** You don't get it do you? Put your ignorance to the side for a second,obviously the F1 won there's no doubt there,but you put a supercar AND F1 against a road bike..stock with only exhaust mods.Let the bike be a SBK or MotoGP where they average 250-280 hp WITH LESS WEIGHT.Should be embarrassing that a full out race car barely beat a street legal vehicle.
John Lam Bikes are the worst shit ever invented. Happy now? :)
*Skips to end of video*
Holy shit the v8 car won !!!
F1 Car: *big ol' cloud o'smoke*
Supercar: *big ol' cloud o'smoke*
Bike: *lil' puff o'smoke*
Love how the bike dude said at the end ....
I can't burn out too !!! VaaaaarrrrrRrrrrRRrrrrROoooooom!
That was more entertaining than any V8 and bike race I've seen combined! F1's still pretty fun to watch though.
Stock bike vs two race prepared cars?Fair?BS.
5:23 my friends....
5:29 me.
Did they use a 1000cc sport bike instead of a superbike so it didnt make the f1 look bad?
F1 would still beat a superbike, or any bike for that matter, cars can transfer weight and F1's generate incredible ammounts of downforce = faster cornering. F1's can pull 4G in corners, and have a power to weight ratio of about 1.17BHP/1Kg
A MotoGP bike is faster in accerelation tough, but only to a certain speed, and than the F1 will beat the moto GP in speed too.
Moto GP is harder tough.
***** yes professor thanks for the science lesson in thinking i am a moron, a GP bike bike out performs a F1 car on straights by a lot, which is why they did not use one.
A motoGP bike reaches over 350km/h down a long straight where as an f1 car can only reach 300kmh and it takes longer for it to get there.
*****
maybe a 2006 f1 car would beat a motoGP bike but not a new one...
roflcopterkklol The V6 F1's (with the right setup and depending on the manifacturer) can reach close to 360kp/h
roflcopterkklol
This season Ricciardo managed 361 on Monza, just saying...
4:00 love that engine noise
2 race cars against a street bike !